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Speaker 2: Walked into that Mama be.

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Speaker 3: Damn ain't no magic. That's when I started dunking.

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Speaker 4: Nothing screams all the smoke like a classic in your

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Speaker 4: face dunk. We've been blessed to sit down with some

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Speaker 4: of the greatest dunkers in the game, from Dominique Wilkins

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Speaker 4: to Sean Kemp, Ronnie Fields Jack, A ton of guys

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Speaker 4: come to mind. But who were some of your best

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Speaker 4: in game dunks? Give me three or four best in

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Speaker 2: One I'll go stro Miles Smith.

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Speaker 4: That's fucking crazy, you sound. I was literally thinking stro Malin.

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Speaker 4: Who I mean you could name any of his dunks?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he wind milled on somebody when he was in

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Speaker 5: uh dropstyle wind mill.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go with my textas my little brow from text.

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Speaker 4: Jail Green that windmill he caught it uh in Brooklyn

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Speaker 4: or that was New that was New Jersey back then.

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Speaker 5: I'm going Vince Carter on the lines in the morning,

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Speaker 5: and I'm going I'm going uh m J on Pat Ewing.

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Speaker 4: I'm going Sean Kemp on Alton Lister, I'm going Baron

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Speaker 4: Davis on Andre Carolinko, I'm going DeAndre Jordan on Brandon Knight.

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Speaker 4: Who else am I forgetting in shack when he dunked

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Speaker 4: on Chris Dudley and wrapped his legs around. Well, I

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Speaker 4: hope you guys enjoyed this episode brought to you by DraftKings.

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Speaker 4: The Crown is yours.

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Speaker 6: I made this one dunk, double pump, reverse dunk in

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Speaker 6: New York Garden. Stop bro, referee, stop the ball, just bounce.

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Speaker 6: Pat Riley called the time out. You don't let this players,

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Speaker 6: because nobody was moving. It was in ad a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, I felt the crowd, I felt the ship. Well,

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Speaker 6: let me tell you all this man. In the next

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Speaker 6: thirty days, I think I had fifty four ducks. So

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Speaker 6: it just created a beast. I mean when when I

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Speaker 6: I was trying to fucking rip.

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Speaker 2: I made this know, man.

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Speaker 6: I would make this know so on my bathroom mirror,

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Speaker 6: every me and my partners man, every anybody that we

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Speaker 6: was playing. It was like a seventh footer. We would

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Speaker 6: you know, it was like you gotta get this, you

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Speaker 6: gotta get this big fucking my boys would be like,

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Speaker 6: you gotta get this big. I was like, won don't

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Speaker 6: didn't matter. So it was just like my mindset, man,

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Speaker 6: was just like I could just dump on any and everybody.

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Speaker 6: It didn't matter. Five feet away, three feet away, double pump, reverse,

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Speaker 2: Man. It was like double It was just like just

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Speaker 2: kept talking double windmill. Yeah. Man.

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Speaker 6: So it was just like, you know, it was all statements.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have some do you have some favorites?

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Speaker 4: Obviously the old listing one is big, and we've seen.

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Speaker 6: That Ratland Gallan was a good one because he the

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Speaker 6: story doesn't say, but the truth of it is he is.

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Speaker 6: He tried to hurt me. That was a playoff game.

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Speaker 6: He actually tried to hurt me before that. So he

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Speaker 6: to get you back. I ain't gonna fight you because

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Speaker 6: your ass. I'm gonna put you one of these posters.

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Speaker 6: The Ratler Gatlin. This is the poet of my favorite

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Speaker 6: ones because I couldn't believe this nigga really gave me that.

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Speaker 4: And that's what you're doing. That's what you're doing when

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Speaker 5: If you go down and duncle bar and had a

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Speaker 2: That's what you used to do.

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Speaker 8: Man, I tried to throw it so hard.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to break that on to tear them

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Speaker 8: And then you can lay it up, you know, you know, make.

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Speaker 7: But it puts that fear in his mind. But then

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Speaker 8: Never they paint freaks, oh man, love it.

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Speaker 7: But that those are the best situations for me when

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Speaker 9: Michael Jordan doctor Me on CBS, man and all I

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Speaker 9: remember I was thinking, is in my park when you

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Speaker 9: Like the only thing in my brain is my brother's

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Speaker 9: going on. My phone's gonna blow up. When I got home,

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Speaker 9: did you go up and try to like you tried

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Speaker 4: You know what? I think he had it.

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Speaker 10: I thought the energy.

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Speaker 9: He went up so fast and then moved in the air,

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Speaker 9: and I just grabbed his face because I was like,

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Speaker 9: you can't dunk this. And I grabbed his face and

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Speaker 9: he still dunked it and his tongue was out, and

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Speaker 9: you know, you try to take it out real quick.

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Speaker 9: Like the lines on morning, they were like, no, that's

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Speaker 9: a foul and then the cameras, cameras on you.

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Speaker 2: You try not to be in the camera, like got.

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Speaker 10: My that's funny.

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Speaker 4: Obviously getting a chance of playing with MJ. But Vince

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Speaker 4: like all like you'd been with the grow. Yeah, but Vince,

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Speaker 4: I think something different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Vince highlight may be better.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Mike.

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Speaker 5: When he first Vince went the elevator, it was the

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Speaker 5: twelve he made it thirteen foor.

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Speaker 2: He's the best in game.

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Speaker 5: Dunker him and yeah, Domini for his tip dunks, human

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Speaker 5: highlights film. Yeah, but Vince, I know it was crazy man.

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Speaker 5: When he got Lonzo, he opened the door there, let

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 4: This was the day he.

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Speaker 10: Put the show on.

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Speaker 12: He had a good he had like a ten year run,

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Speaker 12: Vince and the Dunk contest and up in Canada, you know, Canada,

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Speaker 12: Canada Air.

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Speaker 2: Vince.

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Speaker 4: So you've been known for putting people on posters, obviously

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Speaker 4: with the Dunk of the Olympics, the Alonzo Morning Dunk

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, just walk us through that sequence,

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Speaker 4: because that could be one of the secondt chest to

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Speaker 13: So two thousand and five, we're playing at Miami and

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Speaker 13: the first quarter the game starts and I go baseline,

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Speaker 13: boom dunk on Zoe. All right, cool, whatever, you know,

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Speaker 13: when you dunkle Zoe, you better be happy because Zoe

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Speaker 13: coming back, he gona.

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Speaker 4: He gonna get.

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Speaker 13: That's just what it is. Two plays later, RJ boom

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Speaker 10: So we both dunkle him in the first half.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 13: Go we get the halftime. I'm sitting the locker room.

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Speaker 13: I said, hey, RJ. Literally I said this, this is

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Speaker 13: to duncle Zoe again because he's gonna knock us out

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Speaker 13: the air. He ain't going for there. So I said,

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Speaker 10: God's honest truth.

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Speaker 13: So second half comes, the ball goes out, r J

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Speaker 13: Zoe's on so he couldn't go. And as I took

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Speaker 13: once I got in the air, br he jumps at me.

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Speaker 13: So I'm up, he jumping at me. I already have

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Speaker 13: So when I hit him and I'm leaning to the side,

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Speaker 13: I'm like, Bron, don't miss this. I'm like, Bron, don't

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Speaker 13: And I just remember I was so high. I just

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Speaker 10: He's like, that ain't right, bro.

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Speaker 13: I remember him saying that I laughed, but I tried

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Speaker 13: I was like, I'm in me muggy. But he said that,

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Speaker 13: but that might have been the funniest thing ever. Like

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Speaker 10: When to happen.

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Speaker 5: Everybody running around the house, running.

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Speaker 2: Around the house.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, Like what the just happened?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 2: It was great?

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Speaker 4: Was there was there any truth that you guys didn't

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Speaker 4: talk for like six or seven years after that? You

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Speaker 13: Yes, man, it was like five years. So so I see,

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Speaker 13: here's a creazy.

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Speaker 2: Thing I heard.

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Speaker 13: I saw his response somewhere. He's like, it wasn't true.

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Speaker 13: I ain't got no reason to lie about it. But

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Speaker 13: like it was a basketball play, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 13: It's not like we set him up like trying to

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Speaker 13: jump on it was just like he tried to block it.

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Speaker 10: It happened, okay.

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Speaker 13: But I think the back story to it is a

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Speaker 13: commercial was trying to be They were trying to do

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Speaker 13: the point to where we bumped and before.

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Speaker 10: I duncked it and they cut it off.

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Speaker 15: Damn.

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Speaker 13: So they used that much of it, and I guess

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Speaker 13: It was a basketball play. Like if you block it, yo,

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Speaker 16: We have Vince Card on the show a while back

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Speaker 2: Talk to him about five years in writeing Bence to

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Speaker 17: He never came, Okay, listen, I love this. You know

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Speaker 2: He caught me.

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Speaker 17: But ask him how many times I blocked the shot?

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Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly so, but but he caught me.

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Speaker 17: But with Evince, I went up to catch his and

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Speaker 2: You it seemed like, knocked him up.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that was pretty I'm glad it's a little blurry

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Speaker 5: But I know your game and I have just seen

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Speaker 2: Would you rather cross someone to dunk on someone?

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Speaker 5: But I've seen you do that too many times in

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Speaker 4: Go hand in hand. Yeah, for you that go in there,

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Speaker 2: Was it was.

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Speaker 18: Always it was always fun dunking on the kimba. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: I got him a couple of times, very few people

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Speaker 4: You don't know, you ain't gonna get me.

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Speaker 10: And uh and so that back.

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Speaker 18: And the thing about my tumbo in morning, they jumped

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Speaker 10: Even if they got jumped.

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Speaker 18: A lot of guys won't won't come over, Shack, They

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Speaker 18: But like the ken bet, he came every time, every time,

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Speaker 2: How can I create advantage?

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Speaker 7: And dunking was one of them tools man, that I used,

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously a career full of highlights. Are there

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Speaker 4: You said you love dunkin on big dudes, that's you know, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think one of my favorite dunks was against Bob Lanier.

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Speaker 10: At the end of the game.

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Speaker 7: I remember, I'm on the right side and I come

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Speaker 4: Sit here, jump.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 7: That's the one was that a double punt reverse on

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Speaker 2: Back then through.

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Speaker 7: Hey, let me tell you he didn't speak to me

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Speaker 10: I said, why do you Why are you not?

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Speaker 7: I mean, what's up with that? He said, it's just recently.

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Speaker 7: My daughter said I need to get by. He said,

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Speaker 7: it's just a little skinny kid dunk on you like that.

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Speaker 10: You should be.

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Speaker 4: Embarrassed the night that you threw the fucking lot the

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Speaker 4: DJ and he dunked on branding Knight probably one of

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Speaker 10: I'm surprised they gave y'all. They gave y'all bail yas

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Speaker 19: Be that Yah Night my man to Now me and

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Speaker 19: me and Brandon Knight got a chance to play together

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Speaker 5: Yeah, being on Bluebush from about four five different teams.

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Speaker 19: The craziest part about that live is like where I

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Speaker 19: like most live if you throw it to the rim.

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Speaker 19: But I threw it like to the dots or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's an easy read. That's an easy read.

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Speaker 10: And so when we.

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Speaker 19: Would run that play for DJ, we called forty five

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Speaker 2: I was just looking at the lowman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was with me because I had shaken up

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Speaker 10: But listen, man, your reactions.

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Speaker 4: Yo, that's why I want people to watch my reaction

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Speaker 4: and left like I didn't want to be questioned for

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell the DJ to just killed

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Speaker 1: And this is what y'all gotta do, is stack and

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Speaker 1: Matt when y'all get a chance, me and my brother

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Speaker 1: the other team's bitch.

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Speaker 4: That's all crazy at because I can't.

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Speaker 10: Then my brother text each other. We'll be like, look,

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Speaker 4: At our bitch.

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Speaker 20: Joe Greens dunk against the nets. Look the whole bitch

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Speaker 20: the windmill. Yeah, yeah, go Look they was playing against Houston.

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Speaker 20: Look at Houston's bitch. A bunch of them over there

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Speaker 4: You can't do that. That should make it worse if

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Speaker 4: But that was one of the most disrespectful ducks in

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Speaker 4: I heard in college he kind of rolled out the

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: So I was leaving school and I called him up,

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Speaker 2: Me for the weekend.

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Speaker 10: I said, what doc, No, doc, that's a doctor. This

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Speaker 21: Saying a young fellow can come hang with it. And

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Speaker 8: I'm with doctor j at his house.

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Speaker 2: He was in the playoffs.

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Speaker 10: He gave me some great advice.

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Speaker 21: And then here it is seven months later, I'm playing

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Speaker 10: The NBA finals.

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Speaker 21: My idol, I'm playing him in the NBA Finals. And

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Speaker 21: But when he came down that middle I mean on

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Speaker 4: The finger.

445
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 10: In the air and the.

446
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 21: Fro fro going back, bunting against the glasses.

447
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 24: Good.

448
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 10: I said, Man, this dude is too much.

449
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: Man, he was doing that.

450
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 10: George before Michael.

451
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 21: People forget that he was the first dude walking in

452
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 21: the air. Oh man, it was so much fun playing

453
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 21: against Die and that we won.

454
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 4: Some of whom I think got overlooked, but I know

455
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: you know how important he was. Talk to us about

456
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 4: Ak forty seven, because to me, he changed the whole dynamic.

457
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 4: Jack and Bedie were both rolling in the first round,

458
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 4: and Ak was someone who slowed both of them down

459
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: a little bit. But talk to me about his versatility

460
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: and how much he meant for your guys team.

461
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 25: Man, Listen, if a if AK had a jumper like

462
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 25: assistant jump, I think he would have been the best

463
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 25: player in the league at the time, like honestly, because

464
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 25: there's nobody that was They could fill.

465
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 10: Up stats like him.

466
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 25: Yep, I mean Lebron Lebron, But man, he just had

467
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 25: he just he was everywhere defensively and then offensively.

468
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 10: He had he had a great feel for the game.

469
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 25: He was a great passer, great understanding of where to

470
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 25: be and like you said, what he does on defense,

471
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 25: I mean he he changes the game. You know, he's

472
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 25: he's he's his help side defense is incredible.

473
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

474
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 25: You know, he erased a lot of mistakes to him

475
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 25: because we didn't have this the center shot blocker. You know,

476
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 25: we had them on Booze, so they neither one of

477
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 25: them was really shot blockers.

478
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 10: It was ak that would come and help.

479
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 25: And at the time, you know, the three position was

480
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 25: probably one that you could help off the most in

481
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 25: that era.

482
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

483
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: Uh, but Bedi did get him. That motherfucker was coming

484
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: from the weak started blocking everything. But Bedi went on

485
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: that baseline that one time and got him. What were

486
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 4: you thinking during that dunk?

487
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 10: I'm so sick of seeing that ship.

488
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 25: Even this year that was the opening day, they had shirts,

489
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 25: they had posters.

490
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 10: This year was twenty years ago. And then and then

491
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 10: and then fast.

492
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 25: Forward, Steph dunks and pulls up his shirt like recreating it.

493
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 10: So then you know it goes back viral. Then you

494
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 10: got you got all these you got all.

495
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 25: These igs, you got to throw back hoops, she got

496
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 25: way back hoops, she got pastime hoops. They show it

497
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 25: and then and then I feel bad because it's my

498
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 25: damn fault. I had some terrible, terrible defense. But yeah,

499
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 25: I mean, if you're a shot blocker, you're gonna get got.

500
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 10: It's just it's a but it was bad.

501
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 13: Man.

502
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 10: He smushed his nose when they showed him slow mo.

503
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 10: It's it's bad.

504
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 25: Next that next that next year when we played all

505
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 25: that first game, that's that's what was the posters cut

506
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 25: out of that and his smush nose with with Beaty's

507
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 25: hand on it.

508
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 10: I was like, damn, my fault. I was just all

509
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 10: I could do is say sorry.

510
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 11: The reason why it was so crazy though, because Beadi

511
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 11: had a bad knee, he had a bad back.

512
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 10: He wasn't supposed to play that game. Uh, all that,

513
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 10: all that, all that that was going on. He said

514
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 10: they didn't have it.

515
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 21: He was back, was hurting, his knees hurt, he wasn't

516
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 21: gonna play all that.

517
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 10: And he come out and do that.

518
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 14: That's that's what That's what really shocked us because we

519
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 14: didn't know.

520
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 10: I didn't know he had it in him, to.

521
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 2: Be honest, yeah I did, but I didn't know.

522
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 25: He didn't tell me all that we was I mean

523
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 25: He was with him every before every game, and I

524
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 25: definitely didn't know he was hurt.

525
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 10: But you know, he ain't gonna say that to me

526
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 10: because I'm right a possible.

527
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna go at him and take advantage of it.

528
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: Take us back to your upbringing, your family dynamic, you know,

529
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: military kids. So moving around.

530
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: Born and raised in Nook, New Jersey, high level juvenile delinquent.

531
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: Got out of there just in time. This is around

532
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: the time where people stopped using their hands. Gave me

533
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: a chain and knife and then pistols start coming out. Yeah, exactly. So,

534
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: by the grace of God, moved to Germany, got away

535
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: from that riding two three years in Germany. Now only

536
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: thing I could focus on is basketball. So I'm terrible,

537
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: six ' nine, cut from the freshman team, cut from

538
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: the sophomore team. Again, my father comes in the house.

539
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Get your ass up. We're gonna go see this college coach,

540
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: see if you can get a scholarship. It was Dale Brown.

541
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: So I went in there and said, hey, coach, I

542
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: need help. I ain't make the team. Blah blah blah

543
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. It's like thirteen, but I'm thirteen, six '

544
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: nine can't play.

545
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: I got bad knees.

546
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 6: I got Osgod.

547
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: Slaughter, Slaughter, I got the brown knee Breds with the

548
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: home I'm slow as hell. I can't do anything. People

549
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: laughing at me. So Coach Brown writes me, I do

550
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: everything you say. So the next year, I still didn't

551
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: make the team, so I send him a little up man.

552
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just join Army. Just join Army.

553
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 10: They're right, I.

554
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Can't walk into gun. At the same time, I can't

555
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: do it. So he said, no, I'm off of your scholarship.

556
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: So now we leave. When I come back to Texas

557
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: and I go to a small high school in Texas,

558
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: our team is terrible. I make the team all shit,

559
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: and I'm starting to get a little confident. And then

560
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 3: my dad takes me to see John Contact and now

561
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: everything just changed overnight for me. Everything just changed overnight

562
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: overnight for me, being that I was a hip hop kid,

563
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: had a little rhythm. I'm not doing with Korean. I'm

564
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: not doing those guy hooks. I like this magic cat.

565
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: So you know, I started working on my little handles right.

566
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: And then when I first started dunking, I never wanted

567
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: to dunk. So junior year, I got forty five. At three,

568
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm killing the little dudes. I'm playing gainst my finger

569
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: rolls it I miss. My father comes out and his

570
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: fatigues time out. He you know, he walks the middle

571
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: of the floor. Yeah, he's a pop time out. I said, yo, man,

572
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: time out, Go bring you as outside.

573
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 26: I'm cool.

574
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: There, public ending me out. I got the flavor flat like,

575
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm I'm cold, right, Yah, I'm cool. So he takes

576
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: me outside see him man fuck? You know, said man,

577
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, you know, I'm working on my

578
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: little matt Wap smacks me. Ain't no magic be Shaquille O'Neill.

579
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: But that's when I started dunking, right, And the reason

580
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: why I've always dunk so fierce because I was mad

581
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: at him and I wanted to tear the rim down.

582
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: But it was just regular dunks dunk.

583
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: So then I'm go home and you know, he making

584
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: me watching college games and I'm watching Syracuse play Sherman

585
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: Duglas throws it to Ronnie Cyclely. He dunk it, but

586
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: he getting his legs up, and I was like, okay.

587
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: So the next game, my father's there, I'm dunking and

588
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: getting my legs up. So what I learned from Matt

589
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: people start doing that, I was like, oh, okay, I

590
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: got something there. So that's when i just started dunkin Duncan,

591
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: dunkin Duncan, Duncan, dunk and dunkin. Dominate, dominating, dominating. And

592
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm the type. I was always a jealous kid. If

593
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: your name's ahead of me, I'm coming after. BJ Tyler

594
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: was ahead of me, right le Bradford Smith was out

595
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: of me. Yeah, they had a dude name Matt something

596
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: that was ahead of me. So I'm averaging thirty four

597
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: in Texas, but nobody recognized all these guys ahead of me.

598
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: So I'm coming for him because that's what I've been

599
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: doing all my life. Right, So I'm coming, I'm coming,

600
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm coming, I'm coming. That's what I'm trying to teach

601
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: my son. Now, I said, our lives is about peace

602
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: and valleys. It's only a few people that come in

603
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: and just do this. But the rest of us terrible

604
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: high school player, high school all American. Oh, now you

605
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: go to go to college. Hey, they got to do

606
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: name Chris Jackson's stand. You're gonna have to wait. Okay,

607
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: now you're the man. Cut Oh, now you get to

608
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: the pros as you and as Robinson as a team.

609
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: So I like, I like being challenged. I like when

610
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: people say you can't do it. It just you know,

611
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: makes us work harder. So my father was always a

612
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: guy that never told me I was great.

613
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: You guys run through the east and you guys run

614
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 4: into them.

615
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: What was it like?

616
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: There was the one picture I think in that Finds

617
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 4: where Shaq was dunking on everybody on the team at

618
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: one time.

619
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 26: Video that is one of the best pictures in history,

620
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 26: in NBA history though, like steel shots, that's one of

621
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 26: the best pictures.

622
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: Ever. How tough were they though, How tough were they

623
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: in theirs? But you were someone you had to guard.

624
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: You you were a rare person could guard Shack and

625
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: you had to. You had to guard.

626
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: I was the romer.

627
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 26: I was the double guy because it fits like, wait,

628
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 26: while I can't do nothing with that dude. If I

629
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 26: did get caught on, all I have to do is

630
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 26: try to front him, and he just pushed me up

631
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 26: the lane. They thought it was impossible to guard.

632
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: Impossible.

633
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 26: Listen, man, So you pick your poison? Do you try

634
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 26: to play him straight up? You know what you're gonna

635
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 26: do do you double swing swings? Now you got Now

636
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 26: you got Derek Fisher going four for seven, Robert or

637
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 26: going two for five, Devin George going too for It's

638
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 26: just so then what do you do?

639
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: And then you got the other animal.

640
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: That one on one is destroying everybody in the world.

641
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 26: He average check averaging thirty six. He averaged twenty six whatever,

642
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 26: like it was impossible. But you know what I'm saying.

643
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 26: I I look back at it like I averaged twenty

644
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 26: two against them. I like my second year average twenty

645
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 26: twenty finals against them, Like I posted on like somebody's

646
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 26: like the number of points in these serious somebody posted.

647
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: Like it was one of them apps.

648
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I seen that thing. You were up there.

649
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: That's right. I dom third on the list. Of course

650
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: you had shot and coch cole and then came on.

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 26: You know what I'm saying, So I average twenty twenty

652
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 26: finals like my second year, like game four and our

653
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 26: home flow like, man, we ain't getting swept like fuck that,

654
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 26: Like I'm not going home tonight, Like we're going back there.

655
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: Alan, you went home that night, you were home that night.

656
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: I'll tell us a little bit about that one particular play,

657
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: you know that the dunk the bump, you know that

658
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: was on Sports Center Top ten. What happened? Like you know,

659
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: how to talk to how that dunk you know was

660
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: talked about and kind of changed things even no lot

661
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: to this day people either tag me it on Instagram

662
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: or Twitter, like I see the dunk every day.

663
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 10: Since somehow how many.

664
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 27: Straight up?

665
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, now it's I gotta listen.

666
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 28: I got a post of it upstairs in my in

667
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 28: my hallway, like my mom got a post of it.

668
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: My pops got one in his house.

669
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 11: Uh.

670
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 28: It was crazy because you know, I remember, I remember

671
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 28: like it was yesterday. It was in the fourth quarter.

672
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 28: It was a low scoring game too, so like both

673
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 28: teams was kind of struggling a little bit, and Brad

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 28: caught a time out and he like, we settling too

675
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 28: much for jumpers, you know, let's let's try to get one.

676
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 28: Let's try to get to the fire line, attack the rim.

677
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 28: So I remember Smart had the ball out comes the

678
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 28: pin down for me and he was like, jac you

679
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 28: get it, you know, attack down here to make a

680
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 28: play for yourself for somebody else. So I remember, I

681
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 28: got it, and I turned the corner and it's like

682
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 28: everything kind of slowed down for a second because I

683
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 28: seen Brian.

684
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, it's like I gotta.

685
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 28: Try to dunk it, because if I didn't think I

686
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 28: was on dunk him. I was like, let me just

687
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 28: try to dunk it. Hopefully I get the foul or something.

688
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 28: So I'm like, oh, so like the first for like

689
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 28: five seconds, everything slowed down and as soon as I jumped.

690
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 28: As soon as I jumped, it was like and then

691
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 28: I'm coming down on the ground and I don't I

692
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 28: don't know why, but I bumped him and I yelled

693
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 28: in his face and I remember looking at it.

694
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 10: I loved it.

695
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 28: He's after I bumped him, he looked at me like,

696
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 28: I'm like, oh, let me get back on defense.

697
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 10: That wasn't look though, it looked like, oh oh, this

698
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 10: motherfucker is for real.

699
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: That was a looking round how dare you? But there's

700
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: a look a little bit of respecting that look too,

701
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: Like this little motherfucker came to Hope Man for sure.

702
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: And then you know, after that season, he gave you

703
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: one of the you know, the best compliments you can

704
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: get is you know you're built for stardom. He saw

705
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: the star in you. Obviously throughout the season, especially in

706
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: that in that playoff series. And what did that mean

707
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: to you to kind of be stamped by arguably one

708
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: of the greatest players of all time.

709
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 10: He gave me, I mean a problem.

710
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 16: Mm hmm.

711
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 28: Yeah, Like like you said, you know, I when I

712
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 28: when I stepped on the floor, like, I don't, I don't.

713
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: I never back down from anybody.

714
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 28: I tell myself like when I step on the floor,

715
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 28: like I'm the best player out here.

716
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: Like That's how I approach it.

717
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 28: But like I still I understand, like Lebron is what

718
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 28: he means the basketball and what he means the players

719
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 28: like myself, and you know, just basketball in general, like

720
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 28: what he's done so much for the game. So to

721
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 28: get that, you know, that nine from him, it's a

722
00:35:51,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 28: big deal. You know, you you you appreciate that. How

723
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 28: many back boys have you shot it?

724
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 8: Just one?

725
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 14: I brought a lot of rims, just shot at one

726
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 14: boy at the right time, at the right time of

727
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 14: the turnament.

728
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: At the right time. Man.

729
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 14: Talk about that, my man. Jason Sassi bro shout out

730
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 14: to Jay Sass his nephew Marcus is a hell of

731
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 14: a player. Place at the University of Houston, Marcus Sas

732
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 14: his nephew, my man J Martin point guard from Inglewood.

733
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: Uh, he hit, he hit jail on you at Jason. Yeah, bro,

734
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: I've been doing.

735
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 4: J for over thirty years, shout out j Martin.

736
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jay went.

737
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 14: Hit hit hit sass in the post and Vince was

738
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 14: guarding me. Antoine was garden sass and SaaS threw up

739
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 14: the right jump hook. Vince went to go double one.

740
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 14: I had a straight line right to the rim. Man

741
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 14: just caught off a rebound and then the rest of

742
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 14: his mother down too, and that actually tied the game up,

743
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 14: like we was going back and forth, and I think

744
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 14: that might have made it Sick Team is sixteen. They

745
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 14: had had my man who want to see later on

746
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 14: the night. They had Jeff McGinnis, they had Antoine, Jamison,

747
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 14: Vince Carter, Sir s Quicker Shaman Williams.

748
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: That Carolina team was strong. Yeah, KAA, dont you know

749
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: what I mean?

750
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 14: So they had a they had a strong, strong squad,

751
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 14: and we had Tony Batti, myself, Saz j Mark, Corey Carr,

752
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 14: uh Coy Smiths and they cool. We had we had

753
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 14: a pretty tough squad too, but it was one of

754
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 14: those things. Man, we're going back and forth. When that happened,

755
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 14: we had to stop the game forty five minutes go

756
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 14: watch the ice glass out out our back. We had

757
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 14: to take showers and my man Corey came out, went

758
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 14: on a three point barrage. Corey came out and hit

759
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 14: like four straight threes. Man just opened the game up.

760
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 14: We ended up winning by twenty ninety two to seventy three,

761
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 14: and they drug tested me feverishly.

762
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: Gotta be on something right.

763
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Everything came back clear is I was just on steak,

764
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: milk and brocket.

765
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: Frederick Wise jumped over a seven footer. What were you

766
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: think you can that?

767
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 24: Ship?

768
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 4: You can't?

769
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 10: So you know we're not. Yes, I don't want to

770
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 10: short change that.

771
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 13: He was seven to well, you know, ship talk ship,

772
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 13: but when he turned his head it put him to.

773
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 10: Seven feet, So it was he was legit seven feet.

774
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 4: But so it happened.

775
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 13: You know, when you're playing in the in the again,

776
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 13: sometimes like shots are few and far between, and this

777
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 13: is all depends if you're unless you roll him. But

778
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 13: it was one of those things. He threw the ball

779
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 13: behind his back. I get to steal while everybody running transition.

780
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: I see it. I see the rip. I don't see him.

781
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 10: I see the rip.

782
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 13: So I said one two took a dribble, and I

783
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 13: just I ain't paying attention to where I jumping from.

784
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 13: So you know the paint is different than the NBA.

785
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: It's different.

786
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 13: It's yeah, it's wider. So in my mind, so when

787
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 13: I jumped, I see him and all I remember, God's

788
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 13: my witness. All I remember is touching his shoulder with

789
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 13: my left arm. I'm focused on the rim because I

790
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 13: thought I jumped too far. So in my mind, I'm

791
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 13: thinking I'm about to get hung and make a spright

792
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 13: commercial bro Like I jumped too far. But I was

793
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 13: just trying to get up before the defense get back.

794
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 13: You gotta pass it, set it up, blah blah blah.

795
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 13: So I just attacked the rim. So when I jumped,

796
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 13: I hit him. I ain't thinking about him, no, Moore,

797
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 13: I thought he moved out of the way or he

798
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 13: tried to take a charge.

799
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 10: Of fell down. Because I remember the initial ball and

800
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 10: that's it. I'm focused on the rim.

801
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 13: So when I get so, if you go back and

802
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 13: look at it, I stretch out because I'm reaching for

803
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 13: the rim because I thought I was too far, but

804
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 13: I ended up dunking the ball with my wrists because

805
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 13: I was I actually had enough you know, flight time,

806
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying.

807
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 10: I had some air mind, so I had enough.

808
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 13: So when I hit the rim my cell, when I

809
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 13: almost punched KG, I was celebrating that.

810
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 10: I wasn't celebrating that jumped over because I didn't know that.

811
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 10: That was my favorite.

812
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 13: That was my favorite part of the Dog seeing you

813
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 13: and KG was because us right, we were celebrating two

814
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 13: totally different things.

815
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 10: That was crazy.

816
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, He's like yeah.

817
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 13: I was like, yeah, But bro, I ain't know I

818
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 13: jumped over buddy until after the game.

819
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 10: Could you after the game?

820
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: Not knowing you jumped over a seven footer? Seven to excuse?

821
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 4: I mean whatever, I didn't know. So the rest of

822
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: the game, nobody said a word. So I asked Steve Smith.

823
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: I said, Smitty, how come you ain't saying nothing? Like

824
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 4: nobody said nothing the rest of the game, and said, brother,

825
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: we still didn't believe you just jumped over a person.

826
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: Oh that means all right, that's fair. So after the game,

827
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: Gary Payton Homeboy showed me on the camp quarter. That's

828
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: when the little camp quarters just came out a little.

829
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 13: Small man when Yeah, it just came out that summer

830
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 13: and and that's I saw it. I watched it seven times.

831
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 27: Like wait, what that shit is?

832
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 10: Sick?

833
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, epic?

834
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 13: Hey, I tried to jump over due six ' five

835
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 13: later on in the season, like in the middle of season,

836
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 13: couldn't do it.

837
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: Almost died.

838
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 10: Wow, almost killed both of us.

839
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: That serious.

840
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: Vince Carter comes in town second nineteen ninety eight, your

841
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: second year comes and takes the league by storm. That's

842
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: was that a rumor? Is that real life? Your cousin?

843
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 29: We're cousins, okay, our grandmothers, our grandmothers are related.

844
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: Okay to jumping as motherfuckers?

845
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 30: What was it like?

846
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 10: Nah, bro, that's that's next level.

847
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: You did that.

848
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 10: That's next level jumping ability right there.

849
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: And what this man used to do?

850
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 29: I mean, stat you say you played against the high

851
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 29: school y'all played against the ice school.

852
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 10: No, but I seen him. I've seen him live in

853
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 10: high school one.

854
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 29: So before I knew we were cousins, I played on

855
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 29: junior team Florida and he was on the other older team.

856
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 29: He played before me. I played before him, and when

857
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 29: I so, yeah, this is this is before I knew

858
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 29: we was related. I will play first and then our

859
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 29: team and sit and watch.

860
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

861
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 10: I Man, I ain't know a human can jump like this.

862
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: Bro.

863
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 29: This man was going up pulling the ball, looking in

864
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 29: the basket and was just dropping it like that. He

865
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 29: was going up damn there, touching the backboard and just

866
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 29: dropping the ball like this.

867
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh my god, skilled, crazy.

868
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 29: So I had a good relationship with our coach. I

869
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 29: was like, Bro, we got to get Vince Carter. Bro,

870
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 29: we got it good and he was the most skilled.

871
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 29: And to have us too as two wings at that time, mean,

872
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 29: it was crazy what we could do accomplished along.

873
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: With the Vets what we had and we drafted vents man.

874
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 10: Vince came in there and he was ship.

875
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: He was doing was just unbelievable.

876
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: Bro.

877
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 29: That windmill he did baseline against Indiana on Oh my god,

878
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 29: Oh my god, that man.

879
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 10: He had us jumping. He had us jumping out of

880
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 10: our seats.

881
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 29: We were fans, so I can only imagine how some

882
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 29: of the dudes felt that playing against me and some

883
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 29: of the ship I was.

884
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 10: I was a fan. I know that was my cousin,

885
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 10: my teammate.

886
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: God damn it.

887
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 10: I was a fan bro.

888
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: He was in rad Over that ship.

889
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 31: Was incredible to see what he was doing. Man, it

890
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 31: was the first time for everything.

891
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: So like it's anyone, did anyone dunk on you that season?

892
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 4: You get dunked on by anybody?

893
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a shot, he's a shot blocker.

894
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, That's why I know he'd be going

895
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: up in contested. That's why I'm saying. It's only you know,

896
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: it's a matter of time. You go block enough, but

897
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna ge dunked on too.

898
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

899
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: Probably it's probably something I can't. I don't.

900
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 8: I don't remember them.

901
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to remember him.

902
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 31: And I ain't even bullshit because I really would say,

903
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 31: I really really because I do block a lot.

904
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: So it is going to happen.

905
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 8: But when it happens, it just like I just be,

906
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 8: I'll be forgetting it.

907
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 10: Ain't it can't be old.

908
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: I mean I don't even want to sure enough.

909
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 32: I mean.

910
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 31: Belicia, Belicia Ductum.

911
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

912
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: See it's the what you wouldn't expect. It's not the

913
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: hind Flowers.

914
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

915
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: In the Sacramento I banged on him the first half.

916
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 31: I went left, banged on him, talking crazy my bench,

917
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 31: I'm talking crazy.

918
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 10: And then in the.

919
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: Fourth quarter, you know what, I'm down.

920
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 31: Then it gives me the whole crowd remembers and they're

921
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 31: going crazy.

922
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: And then I got subbed out.

923
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 31: Right then, I'm like, that's the worst. It was an

924
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 31: one oh, and you got supped out. I got subbed

925
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 31: out for like, that's the worst nine minutes. I got

926
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 31: supped out so long that they put me in to

927
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 31: like be on the ball at the end of the game.

928
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 31: Like I got subbed out for a minute that game randomly,

929
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 31: Like I was like, man, like, damn, but where that

930
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 31: shot I remember.

931
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 10: I think that's why I remember that.

932
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 8: That one was weird.

933
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: You average twenty ten right at the gate? Yo, I

934
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: was twenty one, yeah at the gate? Yeah yeah, yeah,

935
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: Well that year. What do you think was your welcome

936
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: to the NBA moment, m J.

937
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: We're just gonna say, we're gonna stark calling me.

938
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was when he dumped on me. He dumped

939
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 17: on me, screamed, he flexed his scream. I was like,

940
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 17: Manna blocked a bunch of shots, you know, he came on.

941
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 17: It was like, I mean, the roar after he dunked

942
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 17: on me. Man I was like, okay, at home or Chicago.

943
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: I was at home. He got good.

944
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm blaming Kingdom Guild for that. Yeah.

945
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: Was always talking talking ship to Mike and I'm like Mike,

946
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: I'm like you, He's gonna blow past you. He coming

947
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: at me, Yeah, go at me.

948
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: You played at raindo beach Hied produced a number players

949
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: such as Doug Christi, Nate Robinson, Kevin Port, and Deontay Mary.

950
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: Who are your teammates? You any stories around the time

951
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: when he was playing there?

952
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 33: Nate Nate was my the one I played with. So

953
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 33: Deui was ten years ahead of us, and then Nate

954
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 33: was in the same era as me. So I was

955
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 33: a senior, he was a freshman, and Nate was the

956
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 33: same way he is right now, Like six in the morning,

957
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 33: six in the morning, condition everybody like, man, what were

958
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 33: we doing here? Nate's up there, laughing, getting everybody in trouble,

959
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 33: running around acting the food. So I remember one game.

960
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 33: I remember one game Nate threw me a live and

961
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 33: it was it was a badass lib. It ain't the

962
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 33: way I should have caught it, but you know, sometimes

963
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 33: you throw the bad live that created the best jumps

964
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 33: and so he threw the lib. I had to stretch

965
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 33: all the way back and I got it in this

966
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 33: like I thought I was gonna fall forward. I just

967
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 33: felt all off found. But I dumped it and Nate

968
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 33: was laughing like I set you up ball, you know, Nate, and.

969
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: I was I was like, damn, I did that.

970
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 33: Man, I feel like I did a summer so I

971
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 33: ain't never doing that again. So I just think I

972
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 33: kept my game on the ground. After that, I was like, man,

973
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 33: I'm cool, You're crazy.

974
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 14: Dog.

975
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 5: Nate is a proud a food man, a food full

976
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 5: time walking muscle.

977
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, he don't get hurt. He brought a

978
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: new muscle.

979
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 5: I'll tell you all the time, if anybody could have

980
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 5: played football, it's Nate.

981
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: Motherfucking ass so stack he was.

982
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 33: He was basketball player, State Player the Year his senior year,

983
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 33: football state player of the Year, and own the record

984
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 33: for the hurdles and track all the same year. Like

985
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 33: he really could have did anything he wanted to do.

986
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of the greatest athletes ever ever ever

987
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 4: by far.

988
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 30: Me and Kobe had issues because hell, he older than me.

989
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 30: I'm young's you got two alpha males. I'm a young

990
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 30: when he old, when he won his way, and I'm shit,

991
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 30: I'm happy, go lucky, and I don't want my way,

992
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 30: but in a happy way. I'm having fun, Like shouldn't

993
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 30: give me the ball, I'm gonna go dunk on this nigga.

994
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 30: But we just didn't have a chance to really build it,

995
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 30: build it like we wanted to, you know what I'm saying.

996
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 30: And it wasn't meant to happen, you know, looking back

997
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 30: on it, and I wish it happened, but it wasn't

998
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 30: meant to happen.

999
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: To the relationship with him, you know, I got a

1000
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 4: chance to play with him and know his mindset and

1001
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: know how he moved. But then got a chance to

1002
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: play with you and know how you're serious but you

1003
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: could smile and laugh and he's not like.

1004
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 10: That at all.

1005
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1006
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk to us about that. And was there it

1007
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: ever an understanding or what was it like working with him?

1008
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: Because you only got a year with him.

1009
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 30: I don't think it was the understanding that we could

1010
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 30: have that we could should have. Yeah, with time, because

1011
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 30: there was so many expectations and I'm going through my

1012
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 30: own ship with trying to recover from this back surgery

1013
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 30: and then tear my labor room. And it's like, man,

1014
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 30: how do I deal with somebody that I grew up

1015
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 30: watching as a child. But now we teammates. We just

1016
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 30: played each other in the finals, right literally, so like

1017
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 30: we got this rivalry, like I want to beat his ass,

1018
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 30: but now we teammates. It was like, Ship, I can't

1019
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 30: do that no more. Uh, but it's Kobe Bryant. You

1020
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 30: know what I'm saying. He don't know I want to

1021
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 30: get his ass back.

1022
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 4: He dunked on you, tough bro, Ship, I forgot about that.

1023
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: You really had to do all that?

1024
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that was that was That was for real.

1025
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: That was one of the one. But for real, you

1026
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 4: didn't got other people, but for real, that was one

1027
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: of the ones.

1028
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: The whole time he was over here, laid back.

1029
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 10: Yeah you know, oh he talked on you and Ship, that.

1030
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: Was that was one of the one. You didn't pay

1031
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: people back on a hundred times worse, but that was one.

1032
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: Of the ones. He did.

1033
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 4: I see it now.

1034
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: He dumped out of my ass.

1035
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 30: But I was young, and really I was what happened

1036
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 30: was I didn't think he was gonna dunk because I

1037
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 30: ain't know he was. I ain't know the rookie year

1038
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 30: of second It was my rookie year, so I thought

1039
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 30: he was finna come over and do like a pull

1040
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 30: up on the last I was that was eight Kobe.

1041
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, so you he was dunking everything. I didn't know

1042
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 11: until he found out he was dunking everything. He split

1043
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 11: It was Pat Garret and Deshaun Stevens. He split the

1044
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 11: pick a roll and I jump over, come through like

1045
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 11: that like I was gone. I don't know what the

1046
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 11: funk I was seeing. And so then I closed my

1047
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 11: eyes too, and all I heard was booming.

1048
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: Oh, I said, oh.

1049
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 30: So then uh, Brian Grant Uh, he said, welcome to

1050
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 30: the league, young fella.

1051
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: I said, oh shit, Kobe got me.

1052
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 30: And then right after that, my homeboy, it was my birthday,

1053
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 30: so he made a cake with Kobe dunking on me.

1054
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 30: Everywhere I was at I got seeing the picture of

1055
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 30: Kobe dunking on me, and it was like.

1056
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: Me and Kobe always there's some bullshit. We always been connected.

1057
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: Every picture out of the seat, I'm in.

1058
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 30: The background, like, fuck you, Kobe dunking the ass.

1059
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Now I'm in all your pictures in the back like

1060
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: but yeah, man, rest of.

1061
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 4: You had that one dunk on old boys at Kansas. Yeah, charge,

1062
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: I was probably one of the worst.

1063
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: Right here.

1064
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: That was what do you see when you see young

1065
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: kd right here?

1066
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 10: What do you think Will used to fly?

1067
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1068
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 10: I used to. I used to get off, to really

1069
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 10: get up in the air.

1070
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 34: They called that a charge. The dude didn't fall anything

1071
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 34: like that. But it's Kansas and Lawrence. You know they're

1072
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 34: gonna cheat. Who is that thirty two who never been

1073
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 34: heard from this shanty Johnson or something like that. I

1074
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 34: don't want to butcher the brothers.

1075
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: Look, I couldn't believe it.

1076
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: I was like, you trying to.

1077
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 10: See if we go to the league.

1078
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1079
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1080
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: How long did it take Kareem to adjust to what

1081
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: you were selling?

1082
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1083
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 21: It took him all season that first year. First of all,

1084
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 21: they thought I was coming in to take over the team,

1085
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 21: and I told him on first day of training camp,

1086
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 21: I said, listen, man, I'm here to help you.

1087
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 8: I said, where do you like the ball?

1088
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: He said what?

1089
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 8: I said, what do you like the ball?

1090
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: I said, you like it high?

1091
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 8: You like it in the middle of your chest. You

1092
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 8: like it low?

1093
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 21: He said, no, I like it high. I said, that's

1094
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 21: where it'll be every single time. I said, I'm here

1095
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 21: to help you be more successful. So that first game,

1096
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 21: he hits a sky hook from the free throw line,

1097
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 21: now not from down low, from the free throw line

1098
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 21: to win the game in San Diego.

1099
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: So I go running.

1100
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 8: I jumped, and I'm hold choking them and hugging them.

1101
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 21: And I didn't let go for about two or three

1102
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 21: minutes because I've never seen a shot like that game,

1103
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 21: when a shot like that, So he got me to

1104
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 21: the locker room, rookie, come here, don't.

1105
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 10: Ever do that.

1106
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 8: We have eighty one more games to go. We can't

1107
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 8: be this high after game one.

1108
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 21: So all the players now are looking so now I

1109
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 21: gotta make a condition.

1110
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 8: That's right.

1111
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 21: So everybody's looking at me in the locker room, like

1112
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 21: what you're gonna do, rookie. So I turned around, said,

1113
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 21: you hit a shot like that eighty.

1114
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: One more time. You know he taller than me.

1115
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 21: I'm gonna jump in your arms eighty one more time.

1116
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 21: And that showed him that I wasn't gonna change. You

1117
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 21: can't intimidate me, and I wasn't gonna change. I'm gonna

1118
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 21: be who I am while I let you be who

1119
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 21: you are. So them first fifty games. You know, all

1120
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 21: the other fellas. We high five and chest bump and

1121
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 21: we having fun. He would score just one down, we scored.

1122
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 21: We hot each other, show about it. Right when the

1123
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 21: playoffs started, he did a hard dunk on somebody, so

1124
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 21: he came out looking for somebody.

1125
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: He wanted.

1126
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 21: We were like, oh, so it was a beautiful thing man,

1127
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 21: to see him enjoy hisself. So what did he say

1128
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 21: to me? Just recently at the we had to Showtime

1129
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 21: reunion in Hawaii? He said, Irvin, you showed me that

1130
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 21: I could show my emotion and enjoy it.

1131
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: The game you changed me.

1132
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 5: Give me your five your list of your five most

1133
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: ferocious dunkers of all time.

1134
00:55:54,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 6: Man said Daryl Dawkins. You know, people forget about chocolate, chocolate,

1135
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 6: and he was naming and dunk. He was dunking the

1136
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 6: break breaking back boys, and you never really heard about it.

1137
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 27: But Dryl Dawkins, doctor Duncanstein.

1138
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 6: Not Duncan Steyn or Terrence Stansbury, A lot of these

1139
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 6: old guys, but these are the guys I used to

1140
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 6: watch dunk and and basketball. David Thompson. David Thompson was

1141
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 6: one of the baddest, coldest donkeys.

1142
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: Ever, he.

1143
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 6: Was glad from the freak dunk in the sideways dunk

1144
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 6: two balls at one time. Come on, man, absolutely, absolutely absolutely,

1145
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 6: you know. You know I realized that I could jump

1146
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 6: in high school when I could touch the top of

1147
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 6: the back boys. Yeah, once I could do that off

1148
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 6: a vertical leap. And my coach would have this drill

1149
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 6: where I would have to do a drop step, touch

1150
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 6: the back board, top the top of the backboard. One

1151
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 6: of the other supposed to drop step, touch the top

1152
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 6: of the backboard again, so you have to do this

1153
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 6: consecutive times, man. And like I said, it was just

1154
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: it was great. It just made me strong. Absolutely did

1155
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 6: you did you get it?

1156
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: Uh huh besides yourself there?

1157
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 6: Oh, and I'm gonna say, uh Shack, No, I mean

1158
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 6: Shack is you know shock Shack is a different beast.

1159
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: Dominique Dominique Wilkins. Man, Domini Dominique Wilkins. If you if

1160
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: you watch me dunk, you gotta you gotta see a

1161
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 6: little Dominique insign me. I was one of them young

1162
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 6: kids that was watching the TVs who were doing Yeah yeah, man,

1163
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 6: we said it was like Dominicq Wilkie show. You know,

1164
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 6: ship Dominice got thats curl up in his head. Let's

1165
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 6: go watch Dominique Wilkins man and so absolutely Dominicque Wilkins.

1166
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: But I got a chance to play against him though, right, yeah,

1167
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: how cold was he? Man?

1168
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: He was a cold and I'm gonna tell you all

1169
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: this man, Dominique was so cold when he towards the Chilles.

1170
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 6: He still came back dropping fifties and forties on people.

1171
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 6: People forget that.

1172
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: I got a chance to play with Chris Paul and

1173
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: was a part of Lop City, and just seeing Blake

1174
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: and DeAndre and the ship they used to do used

1175
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: to awe me. But you arguably played with one of

1176
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: the best dunkers of all time in Sean Kemp. All

1177
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: you had to do is throw that shit out in

1178
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: the atmosphere. I motherfucker's gonna come catching and dunk on somebody. Shit.

1179
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 35: Man, that was the greatest feeling ever man, because men

1180
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 35: and me and Sean always had a thank for the

1181
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 35: thing to say. He'd be like, oh, and once as

1182
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 35: soon as I steal the ball, he'll be come behind me.

1183
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 10: He be like, WHOA, And I know you there, and.

1184
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 36: I just throw that thing up and I might sometimes

1185
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 36: I might sometimes miss, well I'm throwing the ball, but

1186
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 36: he'll come flying man, Braddy thanking or Bob and then

1187
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 36: you know how he at the food.

1188
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 10: He started pointing at people in how you know how

1189
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 10: he get to do it all?

1190
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: Listen?

1191
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 37: You know, So it was at the fund with him, man,

1192
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 37: because he made it entertaining when he dunk on you

1193
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 37: and then they'll be coming and slapping him high five.

1194
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 37: I was like, may y'all crazy, the mother, y'all, just

1195
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 37: y'all on a highlight film. Man, y'all on sports Center

1196
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 37: because you know, we had the top the top ten

1197
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 37: sports center there at that.

1198
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 10: Time, because we used to run home to see.

1199
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 37: Who made the top ten and the sports center and

1200
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 37: you know, we used to go to Man and you know,

1201
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 37: we used to go to foot locker and you can

1202
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 37: get a poster with you getting dunked on too, So

1203
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 37: you know what I'm saying.

1204
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 8: So that was called.

1205
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1206
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1207
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 15: Every era of the NBA had as those those stars,

1208
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 15: those personalities, those talents that that you wonder, are we

1209
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 15: ever going to see this again? Because I can remember

1210
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 15: I can remember watching Michael and Niek have some unbelievable,

1211
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 15: you know battles. You know, and both of them coming

1212
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 15: up with stuff. He said, man, I'll never see somebody

1213
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 15: do that in mid air again. And then here comes Kobe, here,

1214
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 15: here comes so many guys who were you know, the

1215
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 15: things that dropped your jaw back then, Evince, Yeah, you

1216
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 15: were saying, we're seeing that. Yeah, and you're seeing it

1217
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 15: on a nightly basis. You're seeing it in February games.

1218
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 15: You're seeing a guy come up and do something and

1219
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 15: how did that go in? And and there was a

1220
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 15: time you thought I'll never see anybody do that, and

1221
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 15: now you see it a lot, and and just the

1222
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 15: athleticism in the league has I don't know where it

1223
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 15: goes from here, guys, I mean, I don't. You see

1224
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 15: so many things on a nightly basis that really defy description,

1225
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 15: but you kind of get used to seeing them.

1226
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: Now we're spoiled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I think

1227
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: it's I mean, to me, the dunk contest is so

1228
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: hard because what can you really do from here? I

1229
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: mean with Zach Lavine and Aaron Gordon and Vince and

1230
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: all these dunks, like you've got to almost kill yourself

1231
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 4: to do something amazing. And then, like you said, too,

1232
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: now we're seeing some of these Challenge competition dunks in games. Yeah,

1233
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: they're getting it off in games. You're like, what the hell, Like,

1234
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: what is Vince Carter out here doing? Yeah, no, that's

1235
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 4: and that I think.

1236
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 15: You know, the Vince in Oakland in two thousand, that

1237
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 15: was my favorite because it's the first time I ever

1238
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 15: heard an arena at All Star Weekend sound like a

1239
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 15: playoff game. I mean when Vince did his thing and

1240
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 15: did it all on the first try, right right, and

1241
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 15: he did it so so effortlessly, the building erupted. It

1242
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 15: was like somebody had hit a game winner.

1243
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: And you know, and.

1244
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 15: From that height, you know that now you've had Yeah,

1245
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 15: you mentioned Aaron Gordon and Zach Lavine. I mean, they

1246
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 15: came up with some great stuff. But what is I mean,

1247
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 15: what can you do anymore than nobody has ever seen?

1248
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 15: It's all just kind of a little variation, a little

1249
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 15: spin off of that.

1250
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: You know.

1251
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 15: And if you say, wait, that was pretty original, I said, no, really,

1252
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 15: that looked like what he did in twenty fifteen.

1253
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: Are you believe you changed the dunk contest forever? Now

1254
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: we can talk about Mike's dunk from the free throw

1255
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: line and all the dunks in the history, but you

1256
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: came in and did some shit we had never seen.

1257
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: I remember, I've been fucking study hall at UCLA and

1258
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: the dunk contest is coming on. So somehow I got

1259
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 4: the fucking lady to bring a TV and study hall

1260
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 4: and we watched you in Oracle Arena change the dunk

1261
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 4: contest forever. How did you? I mean, you did dunks

1262
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 4: we never seen? Did you prep? How did you know

1263
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: what you were gonna do? Talk to us about that.

1264
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 13: So leading up to it, first of all, all it

1265
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 13: took the Act of Congress to get tam Mac to

1266
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 13: do it because he didn't want to do it.

1267
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 10: People don't know that, Like he put on the hell

1268
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 10: of a show himself and he did not want to

1269
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 10: do it.

1270
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 4: Who else in that dunk contest? People, that was a

1271
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: good dunk count It was Ricky Davis, see Frankie stack House.

1272
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting. That's That's all the way that I can

1273
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: think of right now. That's it was crazy and Tam

1274
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: Mac and and him, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was.

1275
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1276
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 13: But I was just like, bro, we could go ahead

1277
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 13: and put to run on the map, and you know,

1278
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 13: we could show what we could do because like we

1279
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 13: fooled around, like we were fooling around with different stuff.

1280
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 13: I remember in San Antonio at a practice one day,

1281
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 13: we were just going crazy, throwing the ball all over

1282
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 13: the gym off one bounce and just doing crazy stuff,

1283
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 13: just trying to figure stuff out. So we had an

1284
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 13: awful trip there. Our car didn't pick us up on time,

1285
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 13: so we missed our practice leading up to the contest,

1286
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 13: so we never got the practice. Our practice was the

1287
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 13: layup line or whatever, the warm up line right before

1288
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 13: this contest started, so we never got the practice.

1289
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 10: And my rootie that I was gonna do.

1290
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 13: I saw all these people man and sitting around you

1291
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 13: see all the stars and everything, and I was all

1292
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 13: of us bro I was like this, this routine is

1293
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 13: not good enough. So I scrapped all of that in

1294
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 13: the layup line. It took I was so hype. It

1295
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 13: took me everything not to do my dunk routine in

1296
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 13: the layup line. I was just so hyped, like I've

1297
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 13: been looking for fly, just fly, that's it. I'm ready

1298
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 13: to show everybody what I could do. Like I take

1299
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 13: for all my high school and in middle school. I

1300
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 13: didn't care about watching Sunday the All Star game. I

1301
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 13: just wanted to tape and watch the gunk contest on Saturday,

1302
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 13: and I'm like, bro, I'm finally here.

1303
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 10: I ain't about to blow this, but I'm about to

1304
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 10: go ham. So when I got out there, I saw

1305
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 10: all these people, man, and my energy and my drilling

1306
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 10: was on ten thousand, bro, So I scrapped it.

1307
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 13: And so I was just trying to figure out what

1308
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 13: to do. So that first dunk, the reverse three sixty,

1309
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 13: I had tried, o God, So I tried that dunk

1310
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 13: and barely made it when I was practicing. So I

1311
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 13: originally I had scrapped that already. But when I got

1312
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 13: out there, I saw all these people and I saw

1313
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 13: Towrn there. I was like, bro, watch this, what are

1314
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 13: you about to do?

1315
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 30: I was like, you walked into that motherfucker perfect too, right,

1316
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 30: we just walked into that mother plane.

1317
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 5: Hey.

1318
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 10: But I was just so I was so hyped.

1319
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 14: So that's why.

1320
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 13: So if you notice, remember when I dunked the ball,

1321
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 13: boom and go through, and I was so hyped my

1322
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 13: second bounce, I probably could have did a windmill, you know,

1323
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 13: Like I was just so high because I had never

1324
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 13: accomplished that dunk like that before but that was all.

1325
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 4: Adrenaline, that was all the dread motherfucker. Oh yeah.

1326
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 10: So every in between every dunk, I was just old,

1327
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 10: just like just trying to figure out what next, what next?

1328
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 10: What's what next?

1329
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 13: So I did the one step one eighty windmal but

1330
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 13: I wanted to show everybody, like, you know, you didn't

1331
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 13: see many people jumping the other way, And I talked myself, right,

1332
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 13: So I had taught myself how to jump the dude

1333
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 13: the reverse three sixty and just practiced practice practice until

1334
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 13: I got it to this day, Like if you asked

1335
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 13: me to do a dunk, I would do a reverse

1336
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 13: three sixty before I do the regular.

1337
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 10: Because I cannot. I can't go the other way anymore,

1338
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 10: like I can't, I can't, I can't. Just makes no

1339
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 10: sense of me.

1340
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: It's so it's crazy you get lost in your old

1341
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 4: age the other way.

1342
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 13: I get lost, absolutely, but I can't do it, like

1343
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 13: I'll barely make it. So that's why I wanted to

1344
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 13: show just obviously going against the grain, obviously a full

1345
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 13: extended windmill blah blah blah whatever. And I didn't even

1346
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 13: know if I was gonna get that high, but whatever.

1347
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 13: So with the one adi dug. I wanted to show

1348
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 13: that I could take one step out of the baseline

1349
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 13: sar to the front of the rim while doing the

1350
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 13: extended windmill and boom throw it through.

1351
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 10: So I didn't get it.

1352
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 13: I didn't get intention for Kenny Smith, you know, which

1353
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 13: kind of bothered me. Hey yeah, but he was like, oh,

1354
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 13: you set the bar too high. Well walking on the court.

1355
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 13: That's the last thing. That's the last thing I said

1356
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 13: to myself before my first dunk, I said, show up

1357
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 13: or show out, And that used to be our terminology

1358
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 13: in the band before. You know, obviously in the South,

1359
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 13: the band is huge, so we're gonna show up and

1360
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 13: show out. So I was like, you know, this is

1361
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 13: my chance to show the world my imagination and what

1362
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 13: I be thinking about in my head when it.

1363
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 10: Comes to done.

1364
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 4: What is your favorite All Star moment?

1365
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 26: Favorite All Star moment vents sitting on the floor, believe

1366
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 26: it or not, I got that footage to y'all know, yeah, no, no,

1367
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 26: can't see it. Come see me, motherfuckers. Think y'all getting

1368
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 26: this ship for free. Y'all kissed my eyes right, going

1369
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 26: that ink holler right, But I got that. That was

1370
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 26: probably one of my favorite because all my friends. There's

1371
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 26: probably two couple of rolls and we got to see that,

1372
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 26: and it was the first time the world got to

1373
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 26: really see Vents like we knew Vents in high school,

1374
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 26: grew up with Da da YadA, and for him to

1375
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 26: like put that on display like that and just give

1376
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 26: us some unbelievable A lot of people don't know Tracy

1377
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 26: and Steve too. Stacy and Stevens on that too, you

1378
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 26: know what I'm saying. That was one of the better

1379
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 26: before Zach and Gordon.

1380
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

1381
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: That was probably my favorite. That was probably my favorite.

1382
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 10: Uh dunk I test some time.

1383
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 26: But out of all the stuff, men, I've always been

1384
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 26: able to pull some out of each All Star Game.

1385
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 26: One of my favorites was coming out.

1386
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 10: I was getting ready to.

1387
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 26: I was leaving the All Star Game and I had

1388
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 26: a bag of stuff and I was coming out and

1389
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 26: Craig Sager needed an interview for his clothes out and

1390
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 26: I didn't want to do it, and I was trying to,

1391
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 26: you know, we didn't hit back. Look like you know,

1392
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 26: like you know how you play shadow. He's trying to

1393
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 26: get by somebody. I'm like, trade what you're doing. I

1394
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 26: gotta catch my plane.

1395
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 10: Get the fuck out.

1396
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 26: Here, YadA ya dah. So my assistant shout the bill.

1397
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 26: I call him shitty. I threw shitty the bag and said, yo, shitt.

1398
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 26: He takes this to the planet and I'm trying to

1399
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 26: get out, and he said, Yo, just give me two sagas.

1400
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 10: I need an hour.

1401
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 26: I said, get the fuck out of my way, and

1402
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 26: I kind of pushed him, you know, I kind of

1403
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 26: gave him some whatever, and he was like, man, I

1404
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 26: saw how he lost it on. Man, fuck it, come on,

1405
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 26: and and I was I'm just gonna say whatever I

1406
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 26: want to say. Okay, just give me this. I just

1407
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 26: need thirty seconds to get out of okay, okay, okay

1408
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 26: and go. And then I saw what he had on.

1409
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 26: I looked and I said, hold on, hold on. So look,

1410
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 26: you know, I never try to go at you, right, like,

1411
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 26: what the fuck? Like really, what the fuck is this dog?

1412
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 10: Like?

1413
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: Really you came to the game like this dog?

1414
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 10: And he was trying to get the interview.

1415
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 26: I was like, nah, fuck all that lo no burn,

1416
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 26: all this ship, everything, the green thron to all this

1417
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 26: and all of it, yo, and kind of gave him

1418
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 26: a little sound about you and say it what up?

1419
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 26: But and then got out of that and I turned

1420
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 26: around and I was like, gave me shot.

1421
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 4: So you went five dunk contests, one, two, the Home

1422
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 4: Cooking you should have won three the Home cooking and

1423
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: eighty eight for Chicago when Mike won his What were

1424
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 4: those what were those dunk contents? You know that's back

1425
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: when the stars the best player.

1426
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 10: We wanted to know who the best was.

1427
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to know.

1428
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 16: Who the They're scared enough, they scared to lose, you.

1429
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 7: Know, they're afraid to look. I think it's gonna you know,

1430
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 7: interfare with your legacy or whatever. The fact that they're

1431
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 7: still talking about Jordan and Michael dunk contest.

1432
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 10: Thirty five years Lateacy tell you his greatest.

1433
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 7: Dunk contest, right, because you had great players going head

1434
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 7: up and that one in Chicago was that was that

1435
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 7: was a great dunk contest. And it was funny because

1436
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 7: after he said, Nick, you know you know you want,

1437
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 7: I know you want in Chicago. What can I say?

1438
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 7: I said, well, take you give me the twenty five Grandy.

1439
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 7: But it's about two years ago.

1440
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 6: Man.

1441
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 7: I went to greet him and his wife and were

1442
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 7: sitting at the table and I went to say hello,

1443
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 7: he said, you know, you want that dunk contest, that said, how.

1444
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 8: Are you doing, Mike?

1445
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 10: You're doing good.

1446
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 7: But the fact that you know, he acknowledged that a

1447
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 7: few times.

1448
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's special. So for me, it isn't about.

1449
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 7: Who want to a loss, you know, competitive because it

1450
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 7: speaks to your greatness man, you know. And we never

1451
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 7: talked about it. We never talked about who won or lost.

1452
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 7: It was kind of unspoken rule with us.

1453
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: But she was doing dunk contest, dunks and.

1454
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: Games, well, he would both of us.

1455
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 7: None of us ever went, you know, when we were

1456
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 7: going to dunk contest, never went to a gym doing

1457
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 7: some stuff. And I never practiced those dunks, not once.

1458
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 7: Some of the dunks I thought as the contest went on,

1459
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 7: like the one I threw off the glass when of

1460
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 7: the gott women. I've never done that one before. I

1461
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 7: just knew, I said, with jumping a billy, if you

1462
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 7: catch it right hard, yeah, this dunk the hall as

1463
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 7: you can, you know. And so I never worked on

1464
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 7: that stuff, and neither did he.

1465
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 10: Neither did he.

1466
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 5: I would love to see y'all having one on one

1467
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: to talk about like magic and uh Isaiah did. I'd

1468
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 5: love to see you and Mike, because you might be

1469
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 5: the person gave Mike the most work in his career.

1470
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 4: We went at it.

1471
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 7: I know that we went at it, you know, and

1472
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 7: the thing that we have so much respect for on

1473
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 7: it one thing that's what I love about it. One

1474
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 7: thing he said, Man, and I looked at it. I'm like, wow,

1475
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 7: he actually believed that. He said, you know, when I

1476
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 7: was going against Nick, he said Nick was amazing. I

1477
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 7: just tried to be as amazing. And I said special. Wow,

1478
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 7: that's pretty special what he said. You know, every but

1479
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 7: it just showed me that how special our relationship was,

1480
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 7: you know, as competitors.

1481
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety four Slam Duck Chim the East Bay funk

1482
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: is born.

1483
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 32: Talk to me about that, bro, I've been doing that dunk.

1484
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 32: It's like ninth grade, you know what I mean. I

1485
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 32: was doing that dunk ninth grade. So it was just

1486
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 32: something from from from wayback for me. Everybody was doing

1487
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 32: Dominique Jordan's, you know, doing they dunks. So you know,

1488
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 32: one day I tried and got close, so I was like, oh,

1489
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 32: I'm gonna have that, and then I had it in

1490
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 32: like a week.

1491
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 8: So I was doing like people that know me.

1492
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: Go old school with me, that went to school with me.

1493
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 32: Know, I've been doing that done since like fourteen fifteen,

1494
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 32: you know what I mean, the Boys Club dunk contest

1495
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 32: Chris Mulin when he played for the Warrior judge the

1496
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 32: dunk contest. When I was a youngster at the Boys Club,

1497
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 32: I did that dunk. But with that being said, I

1498
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 32: just kept it going, brought it to college. You know,

1499
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 32: I freaked it in college and want to college dunk contest,

1500
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 32: and they was like, okay, you know what I mean.

1501
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 32: And then you know when I got to the NBA stage,

1502
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 32: obviously went to a tremendous level.

1503
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: Man, that's just old school. That's that neighborhood stuff, you

1504
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1505
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you was.

1506
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 4: Going, you was going between the legs and you know

1507
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, like you said in high school and

1508
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 4: then in the pros you did it. What do you

1509
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 4: think about the creativity? So, you know to this point,

1510
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 4: because all these dunks have been done, you know what

1511
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: I mean, So you got to come with some crazy

1512
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 4: shit now to make away. But these kids are coming

1513
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: with that crazy shit and making a way. What are

1514
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: your thoughts on it? Being a former slam dunk Chip.

1515
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 32: So I won't lie right since ninety three, right, people

1516
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 32: have been going between land was Cob and Vince Bron

1517
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 32: you know, go Ran had been. But the other dudes,

1518
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 32: you know, was going between the legs. And I was like, man,

1519
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 32: this is crazy, Jay Rich and you know, I just

1520
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 32: this others. I was like, are you kidding me right now?

1521
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 32: I mean, these dudes, we're doing some crazy stuff, man,

1522
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 32: and still doing crazy stuff. So to me, the evolution

1523
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 32: of a dunk like, So I didn't practice dunks, you

1524
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 32: know what I mean, I didn't. I didn't you know,

1525
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 32: the first duncan sess the second. I didn't go out there.

1526
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 32: I didn't have no routine. I didn't know what I

1527
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 32: was gonna do. I didn't practice no dunks, you know

1528
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 32: what I mean. And even coming up in high school,

1529
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 32: you know, everybody had the bouncing ones and we dunked out,

1530
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 32: you know what I mean. Here On Minor used to

1531
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 32: go out it in high school and so we turned Yeah,

1532
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 32: we used to go out in high school. I mean

1533
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 32: it was Southern Cal in North Cal. We yeah, we

1534
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 32: had a rowing without getting said we in practice, we just.

1535
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 10: Went off the cuff.

1536
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 32: So now dudes is taken behind the back, taking you know,

1537
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 32: practice and looking at pro dunkers, taking getting the timing

1538
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 32: and getting advice from dudes, you know what I mean,

1539
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 32: and going in the lab and getting major dunks off,

1540
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 32: you know what I mean. So I just look at

1541
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 32: it like the evolution is incredible, man, I mean, just

1542
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 32: to go from a simple baseline between the legs to

1543
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 32: at the end of my dunk contest.

1544
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: So I used to throw it up too.

1545
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 32: In the end of my dunk contest, I'm talking to

1546
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 32: Sean Camp like me, they wanted to be doing more dunk.

1547
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 32: I'm like, man, I'm gonna throw it up, go off

1548
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 32: verge and going between the legs, and and Antonio David like, man,

1549
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 32: you're good. I'd like all right, So I went and

1550
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 32: did something else. With that being said, I look at

1551
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 32: it now, like, man, they going behind the back, off

1552
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 32: the backboard. It's incredible. Man, I'm in awe, you know

1553
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 32: what I mean when I see these dudes, you know

1554
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 32: what I mean? With that being said, Man, I think

1555
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 32: Aaron Aaron Gordon won the dunk contest.

1556
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 4: He's been getting robbed two times. Possibly, where did this

1557
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 4: bounce come from? And when did you know you could full?

1558
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 4: Because you could really fly in case you didn't know.

1559
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 24: Man, yeah, I mean sometimes, dog, I'm starting to get,

1560
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 24: you know, a little more tired now.

1561
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 6: But here we go.

1562
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: It's twenty five times.

1563
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 27: I'm just talking shit. I'm just talking. I'm just talking shit.

1564
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 10: You know, in high school.

1565
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 27: In high school it started.

1566
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 34: Man.

1567
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 24: You know, me and my dad did a lot of

1568
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 24: Plaier metrics. You know, we were on the Verde Max

1569
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 24: I was doing. I was doing lunches on the football

1570
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 24: field from one hundred yard line backwards eighty backwards. I

1571
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 24: ran track a little bit, ran sprints, so you know,

1572
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 24: I worked on you know, building those muscles up. And

1573
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 24: after I uh, after I grew into my body a

1574
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 24: little bit more at like six six three six four

1575
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 24: sixty five, and that's when it started coming in. Right

1576
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 24: before my right before my senior year in high school.

1577
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 24: You know, I was pulling off the same dunks I

1578
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 24: was doing the dunk.

1579
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 4: Contest growing up, you know, being a dunky yourself. You know,

1580
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 4: I heard Vince was one of your guys. What tempted

1581
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 4: you or or or or prompted you to join the contest,

1582
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, going into it you you could win, or

1583
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 4: what was the motivating factor behind. You wanted to be

1584
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 4: a volved in the dunk contest. Yeah, So I grew

1585
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 4: up always you know, watched it. You know, we could

1586
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 4: watch the tapes and you go outside and try you know,

1587
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 4: I watched the Michael Jordan, Kobe's and Vince's and go

1588
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 4: outside and try to do the dunks. But uh, I

1589
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 4: wanted dunk contest in high school. I think it was

1590
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 4: the Ball's Life of All America dunk contest, you know.

1591
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 4: Going growing up, I'm like, okay, I got I got

1592
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 4: into NBA. I was like, I know I can win this.

1593
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 24: So I had even that Aaron Gordon dunk contest that

1594
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 24: we had, I had like nine dunks that I had.

1595
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 24: I was like, there's nobody doning beat me where if

1596
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 24: I make my dunks. There's nobody that's gonna beat me

1597
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 24: if I do these dunks. So I just wanted to

1598
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 24: go put a show on at least, you know, have

1599
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 24: that experience, especially at I think I was the second

1600
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 24: youngest besides Kobe to win the Dunk.

1601
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 27: Contest behind Yeah.

1602
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that was dope. And then you became the

1603
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 4: fourth player to win back to back dunk contests. When

1604
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 4: you're able to take down Aaron in Toronto talk to

1605
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: us about that particular dunk contest, because that one took

1606
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 4: everyone back to you know, comparences of Dominique and Jordan

1607
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: back in eighty eight before you was even born. But

1608
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: it was one of the best dunk contests we've seen.

1609
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 24: No, it was crazy and you could just tell it

1610
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 24: built up to something that was going to go down

1611
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 24: in history, just the stuff that we were doing. Because

1612
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 24: I'm Beyonnest with you, I didn't think anybody was going

1613
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 24: to come close to me in the first dunk contest.

1614
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 27: I feel like I wiped the floor, you know. I

1615
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 27: thought it was a sweet second one.

1616
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 24: You know, Ag came out with the same amount of

1617
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 24: energy and confidence I had, so it was, you know,

1618
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 24: it was go go down to the last blow, and

1619
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 24: that's when I I was like, look, I'm either going

1620
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 24: to make this dunk or miss it. When I tried

1621
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 24: to go from the free throw line, you know, thank

1622
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 24: god I made it.

1623
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 4: But you made that shit look effortless. Your free throw

1624
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,480
Speaker 4: dunks look motherfucking effortless. Is incredible.

1625
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 27: That last one I did was the first time I

1626
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 27: tried it.

1627
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 10: Let's go through the legs, though, go through the legs

1628
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 10: from the free throw line.

1629
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1630
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 27: It was the first time I tried it. Tried it, Yeah,

1631
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 27: first time I tried it.

1632
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: Never never, I s bro, that was dope.

1633
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 10: Have you have you ever talked to Aaron Gordon about that? Like,

1634
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 10: have you ever sat down?

1635
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: But like, man, what made you think about doing that?

1636
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Have you ever had a

1637
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: conversation about that moment?

1638
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 24: Yeah, We're in the same agency, so we definitely talked

1639
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 24: about it. You know, we're going back and forth, like

1640
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 24: I think I got you on this one.

1641
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 5: Or that one.

1642
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 27: But at the end of the day, I grabbed the

1643
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 27: I grabbed the mic.

1644
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 24: I I don't think people remember this. I say, Man,

1645
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 24: to be honest with you, I think we should share

1646
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 24: this trophy. You know, we put on a show together. Yeah,

1647
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 24: so it was instead of you know, one or one

1648
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 24: other guy winning, I think that was just something for

1649
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 24: the for the culture of the NBA.

1650
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 27: That was something that was special.

1651
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 4: So there's rumors now that you're hanging up your dunk

1652
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 4: contest eligibility. Is there any truth to that at the

1653
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 4: ripe old age of twenty five for you or is

1654
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 4: that the last time we seen La Levien, man, I don't.

1655
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 10: Know, man, it's yes, yes, he said, he don't know. Same,

1656
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 10: he said, he don't know.

1657
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 27: I wasn't even in the same role.

1658
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 38: Everybody was crazy Jack. Everybody still wants me to do. Man,

1659
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 38: I don't know what else I can. To be honest,

1660
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 38: I don't know what else I could do. It'll come

1661
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 38: a time to where I you know, I'm I'm eventually

1662
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 38: doing hang it up. Obviously, I know I still got

1663
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 38: something left, but you know, I think I've passed that

1664
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 38: part of my game now I want to go out

1665
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 38: there and so you know, I want, you know, I

1666
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 38: want to be NBA champion.

1667
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 4: I want you know, more, more, more refined things.

1668
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 13: You know.

1669
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1670
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 4: When did you start really jumping around with ant a

1671
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 4: young age and come all of a sudden, I.

1672
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 5: Think, like going into my seventh grade year, like in

1673
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 5: a gym class, so, you know, all the kids playing

1674
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 5: around and I'm still trying to like dunk this ball,

1675
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 5: so class over, everybody leaving a family dunk it.

1676
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 8: So you know how there you dunk it.

1677
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: It's over.

1678
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 8: Now class You like, hey, I did it, so they're like, no,

1679
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 8: you didn't.

1680
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 5: So it's season. Get ready to start we was at BBR.

1681
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 5: I get on the fast break. I dunked the ball

1682
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 5: in seventh grade in seventh grade, and they called a

1683
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 5: technical foul. I didn't even know what the tech was about.

1684
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 5: And they's like, you can't dunk the ball. So my

1685
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 5: coach like, what you mean. I think it kind of

1686
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 5: caught him off guard. Wasn't nobody else dunting. Wasn't nobody

1687
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 5: else dunking at the time. And when I really knew

1688
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 5: this one, I really knew I could jump. My eighth

1689
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 5: grade year, in the championship game, on a fast break,

1690
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 5: I took off with a toe in front of the

1691
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 5: free throw line and dunked. And want a dude, so

1692
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 5: you look, thinking about eighth grade. As I'm in there,

1693
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 5: the guy come behind me. I'm still flying the dude

1694
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 5: that took my shoe off in the air. The place

1695
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 5: was going crazy. I dunked it and one came down

1696
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 5: and do that my shoe in his hand. I mean, look,

1697
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 5: you know, I've been like, like miss Williams, I'm like

1698
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 5: looking for that tape because I'm like just thinking about

1699
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 5: like that moment and from there, you know, because people like, Okay,

1700
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 5: you talk off stride a lot I was like, that's

1701
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 5: how I learned. But then as I started playing more,

1702
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 5: playing out there with like a lot of pros, and

1703
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 5: they'll give me like a man in a game.

1704
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 8: Then they're blocking my shot.

1705
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 5: And the first time one of the guys blocked my

1706
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 5: shot and I started laughing, and he looked at me

1707
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 5: and saying, what you laugh I say, because y'all let

1708
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 5: me play with y'all like I'm a kid. So they

1709
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 5: started giving me like two more mens here and there.

1710
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 4: And you'll do this summerly this summertime.

1711
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1712
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 5: I was at like maybe like twelve thirteen years old. Yeah,

1713
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 5: so they was giving me a couple of minutes here

1714
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 5: and there. And then I didn't look at it as

1715
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 5: like yeah, they busting my left, knocking me down. I

1716
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 5: was just happy to be out there playing. So you know,

1717
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 5: when I stopped playing against kids was to destroying them.

1718
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 5: You know, it was just like the mentality because they

1719
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 5: won as aggressive. So like my ninth grade year, I'm like, ooh,

1720
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play the sophomore and my coach was like

1721
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 5: Wolf was like, no, I'm gonna start your boss. You're

1722
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 5: like what And he started me on varsity. I think

1723
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 5: that first year, I was like sixteen the game and

1724
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 5: then every year, so going up, it went up.

1725
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So was you ever measured with your vert I mean,

1726
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 4: is it urban legend that it is fifty or was

1727
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 4: it fifty plus?

1728
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 5: It was a fifty fifty nine, ain't no question about that.

1729
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 5: It was what shocked people. I think this one they

1730
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 5: looked at it. I think this one may be on tape.

1731
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 5: Leonard Miles about six five, we was playing down in Danville, Illinois.

1732
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 5: He got on the break and he had one of

1733
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 5: the hardest one legged jumps, like broad and get up.

1734
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: So this time I'm like doing the chase down and

1735
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 5: he laid it up. I said, dude, you do that again,

1736
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get down. His whole wrist over the square

1737
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 5: like this is how I was. I said, you do

1738
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 5: that again, I'm gonna get it six plays five plays later,

1739
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 5: he didn't think the dunke it man went up there. Now,

1740
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 5: if you watched it when they was rewinding it, the

1741
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 5: ball over the block the square. That's why I went

1742
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 5: up there and grabbed it but two hands and just

1743
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 5: snatched it down. I think the game wasn't even over,

1744
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 5: and everybody ran on the court. It was still like

1745
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 5: the third quarter, and that's when that's when they was like, okay,

1746
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 5: don't nobody And because I sit back and watch that

1747
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 5: block and I said, man, why I told you the

1748
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 5: dunke it. He's like, man, I ain't expect nobody ever

1749
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 5: number didn't grab no ball like that. That was another

1750
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 5: memory experience.

1751
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I got Leonard I talk about this

1752
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: out of his house.

1753
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 5: Since we talking about you dunking and jumping at fifty

1754
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 5: Nike Snap Dunk Contest.

1755
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: You shake Cadding, shake Hadden with team Cleves Court, Benjamin, Yes,

1756
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: Baron Davis in that toom Baron Davis as well.

1757
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 4: Bro, my team used to have hops like that.

1758
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 5: What my team was like, Matt team was like he

1759
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 5: was top five quarterback in the country and the top

1760
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 5: five point guard.

1761
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: In the country.

1762
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

1763
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: No, he could fly up crazy, he could fly it up.

1764
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: But you remember that dunk contest.

1765
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 5: I never forget that dunk contest because let me tell

1766
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 5: you something like Shaye was Dominique Wilkins.

1767
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 8: Listen, man, look, they was.

1768
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 5: Calling him man the man first of all, built like

1769
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 5: that in the ninth grade, ninth ground, like dude, come on, man.

1770
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: What you eating two thirty.

1771
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 4: This wasn't this wasn't this wasn't a day of holdbacks

1772
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 4: and double hose back.

1773
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 8: He was really that big and that yeah, man, he

1774
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,480
Speaker 8: was like when he looked.

1775
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 5: When he was attacking the rim and dunk and the

1776
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 5: ball man, it was just like, I'm like, dude, why

1777
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 5: you man? Like the whole every thing, just like so

1778
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 5: he was the one I was worrying about. In the

1779
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 5: dunk contest, Corey Binches was more like Clyde and glide

1780
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 5: through there. So Shay did a windmill from the side

1781
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 5: and I was like, I ain't sure. I'm like, it

1782
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 5: was just the one he.

1783
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 4: Threw in the air and anyone ever seen.

1784
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 5: I think you have felled the shit that that that

1785
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 5: dunk contest. That's because somebody sent me. It was like,

1786
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 5: somebody sent me the dunk that won it for me.

1787
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 5: So he did that dunk and then Corey's brother came

1788
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 5: up to me.

1789
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 8: It was like, look, yeah, Corey winning this, and I

1790
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 8: never get one.

1791
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 5: The guys from Chicago sitting by me, Larry Alley Way

1792
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 5: and Bibbie was there. All of a sudden he backed

1793
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, I know this boy finish trying to jump

1794
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 5: from the free throw line. Corey Corey did it, So

1795
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 5: now the place he's roughed again. So now it's my

1796
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 5: you what year y'all? At this point it was going

1797
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 5: into ninety.

1798
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: Ship and then.

1799
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 8: They both looked at me like what you're gonna do?

1800
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 5: I ain't say anything, so like, now all these guys

1801
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: doing is run and start everything.

1802
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 8: They throw me the ball. Matter of fact, Ray Allen

1803
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 8: was at the camp too. Yeah, he was one of

1804
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 8: the night guys.

1805
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: So I got it.

1806
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 5: I walked to the free throw line and I was

1807
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 5: just like I'd done a windmill. I've done two of those,

1808
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 5: but I'm finna do something I think they see. And

1809
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 5: I didn't even run. I said, look, I did a

1810
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 5: wind meal three sixty. When I'd done it.

1811
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 8: This is when I know, y'a was how high it was? Well,

1812
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 8: you see Vince Carter do that.

1813
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 5: I was to a point where I was so high

1814
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 5: when I turned, I I was like like my neck

1815
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 5: and all this like looking down in the real that hard.

1816
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 8: And then they even let me get to my second

1817
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 8: third dunk.

1818
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 2: They just called it whole jail crazy.

1819
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, they it was real nonsense. Just walk like figure

1820
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 5: out what he was gonna do. Yeah, Bro, he did

1821
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 5: three six the wind Bert, Yeah, just like one triple.

1822
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 5: That's when I said it was just like it was people.

1823
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 5: Everybody was like, I ain't doing no running start or anything.

1824
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 5: And I think that's what called him off guard because

1825
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 5: they like, Okay, what are you finna do? Is just

1826
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 5: like free throw line? One dribble boom boom end up.

1827
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 5: This when I was like, when I turned around and

1828
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 5: there at that moment and I realized, well, my chance

1829
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 5: in my head was so hard after that, and that

1830
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 5: was Yeah, it was nothing else needed to be seen.

1831
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 5: Everybody was like the whole Jill Wayne, it was.

1832
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 4: Virable before viral for.

1833
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 2: We gotta find a tape of that dunk.

1834
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 5: Bro, we gotta find a table of that dunk, and

1835
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 5: that's probably the first time it's been done.

1836
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 2: Probably on VH.

1837
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: We gotta find that ship. We gonna find it. Is

1838
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 4: this an urban legend? You got your first practice through

1839
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 4: a radio dunk contest?

1840
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 6: Is that crazy as what?

1841
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: Mano? Yeah? Man, I'm the.

1842
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 33: Too.

1843
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you what is the truth too. Now

1844
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 6: I'm in College of Trinity Valley and ain't but two

1845
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,959
Speaker 6: damn restaurants there. It's a dairy queen and the McDonald

1846
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 6: that's your choice of restaurants. You go out too, bro

1847
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 6: and uh in Eastern Texas and they came on the

1848
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 6: radio and they was like this. They say, Hey, there's

1849
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 6: a dunk contest next Friday night and the winner and

1850
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 6: the winner the dunk contest gets to practice with the

1851
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 6: Mavericks all week here. Three practices here, Yes, they said,

1852
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 6: three practices if you win the dunk contest. So everybody

1853
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 6: in the every junior college around Texas was trying to

1854
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 6: get in that motherfucker.

1855
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 4: Man.

1856
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 6: I mean you name it, Sega, Sino, Tyler, you, every

1857
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 6: every law school man. We was down there after the

1858
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 6: Dallas ARDA man was probably sixty contestants. Man, and I

1859
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 6: want the dunk contest that night, and uh, I got

1860
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 6: a chance to practice with the Mavericks. Now I get

1861
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 6: to the Mavericks practice and guess who's on the damn team.

1862
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 6: My teammates that the strip Sam Perkins, they on the

1863
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 6: day on the team, and I am. I come in

1864
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 6: and I guess you get a chance to practice with him?

1865
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 6: Where they don't let me practice one day? I bullshit

1866
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 6: you not?

1867
01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 4: You up out of there, tell us where elevator Ernie

1868
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,799
Speaker 4: was born at Elevator.

1869
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 15: Ernie was born at the Omni, the Omni, the Omni,

1870
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 15: and that's like mid eighties, that's eighty five or eighty six.

1871
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 15: And this is when I'm anchoring the weekend sports at

1872
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 15: Channel two and Bill Needle was the name from the past.

1873
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 15: He was the Hawks pr director at that point. So

1874
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 15: he's setting up a media slam dunk contest. So there

1875
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 15: are a couple of writers from the AJAC. Steve Brunner

1876
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 15: was in there, a couple other guys, Craig Sager from

1877
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 15: who was at TBS at the time. So Seger gets invited.

1878
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 15: Seger shows up wearing these candy stripe red and white

1879
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 15: shorts that were just about exposing everything he had. Okay,

1880
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 15: and I was like, how can you wear shorts that

1881
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 15: that's small? And he's but SEG's and I knew each

1882
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 15: other even back then because we'd be ca you know,

1883
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 15: covering different stuff. So they said, yeah, okay, you guys

1884
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 15: show up here at the Hawks shoot around because this

1885
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 15: is when and we're kinda kind of show you what's

1886
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 15: happening because we're going to do this in the pregame

1887
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 15: at the Hawks tonight. It gave us a pair of

1888
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 15: gave us a pair of Brooks, gave us Nat shoes,

1889
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 15: so I had I was wearing Dominique's Brooks on that thing.

1890
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 15: And I don't know what possessed me.

1891
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 2: To wear those.

1892
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 15: I talk about Sagar shorts.

1893
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 4: I had smugglers on too.

1894
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: They those things.

1895
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 10: I don't know what I was thinking.

1896
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 15: You know, it isn't it amazing when you look back

1897
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 15: some years and say, what was I kept the glasses

1898
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 15: on though, had the glasses, had the socks up to hear, had.

1899
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 4: The that was a style back then, though. Yeah.

1900
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 15: The huggers, man, it was, you know, yeah, the grape smugglers.

1901
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 15: This kiddy always calls them. So yeah, So that's where

1902
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 15: it started. And they gave us the they gave us

1903
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 15: the T shirts and mindset elevator Ernie. And I had

1904
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 15: no idea of not like I came out here, said

1905
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 15: hey make mine elevator. You just showed up at that

1906
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 15: night and they said, here's your T shirt, elevator Ernie. Okay,

1907
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 15: And so yeah, we did like an eight foot rim.

1908
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 16: It was.

1909
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 27: It was some brutal entertainment.

1910
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 15: But I looked back at some of those pictures and

1911
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 15: I saw Craig Neil, who was one of the judges

1912
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 15: of Anne Joseph member from Haiti was a center at

1913
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 15: Georgia Tech.

1914
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 2: He was one of the judges.

1915
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 15: And and then somehow that video resurrected itself on our

1916
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 15: air and now.

1917
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 4: It won't go away.

1918
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 15: So now in any slow moment, anytime they want to

1919
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 15: they want to hurt me, they bring that.

1920
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah could you jump? You? Did you have a could dunk?

1921
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 4: In real life on the road? Look at me?

1922
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 15: Come on, man, what do you think touch a net?

1923
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 10: You never know? You could have been aborn a younger day.

1924
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 4: Man, I no, I never could.

1925
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 15: I touched the rim maybe, but I could never do that.

1926
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 10: I could, I could, and that's and that's but I

1927
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 10: don't know what it was.

1928
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 15: And I think it maybe if I had had what

1929
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 15: a lot of young players these days have. And that's

1930
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 15: you know, there are training tools and that kind of

1931
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 15: thing where somebody can actually tell you here, hey, look,

1932
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 15: this is how you if you want a vertical this

1933
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 15: is what you're gonna have to do, and you're gonna

1934
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,719
Speaker 15: have to work on this and you're gonna have to develop.

1935
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 15: But but for me, it was like, look, even though

1936
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 15: you look at my physique, I was not a big

1937
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 15: guy in the weight room.

1938
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 2: I know that's surprising, but it was like, I'm one of.

1939
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 15: Those guys who were like when I was taking pe

1940
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 15: classes and they started doing pull ups, I always found

1941
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 15: a way to kind of get to the back of

1942
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 15: the line every time, and then they say, oh, let's

1943
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 15: move over here.

1944
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Good m