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Speaker 1: this entire audience obviously knows you. No introduction needed. Former

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Speaker 1: social media? No, but yeah, just a lot of traveling.

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Speaker 1: he was before he was a president. I met President

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Speaker 1: Trump before he was a president because I was working

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Speaker 1: with a a firm that represented a company that grooms

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Speaker 1: uh women for Miss USA and he was running yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so I got an opportunity to sort of host

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Speaker 1: one of the smaller ones invited to the Miss USA pageant,

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Speaker 1: and I met Donald invited to like all that's where

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Speaker 1: you should do who you are, And so I met

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Speaker 1: judging miss US first. I didn't judge that. I judged.

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Speaker 1: I judged one of the like Satellite was sending one

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Speaker 1: of them to to uh to the Miss USA pageant,

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Speaker 1: but um uh, Donald Trump. When I first met him.

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Speaker 1: He came into the room and just typical Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I saw that said, hey, everybody, it's Donald Trump, one

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Speaker 1: of the most important men in the room, and he

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Speaker 1: just goes one of the most So that was funny.

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Speaker 1: And I met him that way, and I met him

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and then when he initially decided

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Speaker 1: to run to the presidency, he asked me to come

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Speaker 1: endorse him, which is kind of a funny story because

447
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Speaker 1: I was living in Dallas, and Dallas is obviously an

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Speaker 1: hour behind New York and Donald Trump doesn't drink and

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Speaker 1: I do. And so he called me at like six

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Speaker 1: am his time on a Saturday was five hm my time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in I'm in uh my though, so he

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Speaker 1: called and like we had a big night in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: So I'm I'm alone in my I'm in my guest

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Speaker 1: room by myself, sleeping on top of the covers of

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Speaker 1: my phone rings. I pick it up, was like, hey, Robs,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I'm like, seriously, funk off and hung up

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Speaker 1: because I didn't think it was real. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was like my neighbor. Then he called back and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want you to come up and endorse me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run for president, I said, I got nothing

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Speaker 1: better to do. On Saturday, I went up. Did you

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Speaker 1: realize it was really No? I knew it was on

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Speaker 1: the second on the second call because he was pulling

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Speaker 1: one of his class moves where he's got the speaker

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Speaker 1: phone out and he's got like three people in his

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Speaker 1: office so they can hear who he's calling. He does

467
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Speaker 1: it with Tom Brady all the time. Guys go to um.

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Speaker 1: But so that I went up there just to check

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Speaker 1: it out. And I didn't officially endorse him, just because

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know he's gonna say stuff

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with and I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: on that side of it. But um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: I've known him for a while. I've been to the

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Speaker 1: White House with dinner. Um. I he spoke at one

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Speaker 1: of my wife's events and I talked to him there,

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Speaker 1: and I know Donald Trump Junior well, and UM yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't per se give them

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Speaker 1: foreign policy advice. I mean I've I've you know, they'll

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Speaker 1: see what I say on Twitter, and I agree with

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Speaker 1: him a lot and I disagree with him like the

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Speaker 1: military parade thing I was, I was big against against that.

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Speaker 1: We don't need that. That's that's not a good idea,

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Speaker 1: and here's why. And I kind of would say it,

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Speaker 1: but they don't. Really. I'm not in the cabinet by

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Speaker 1: any means, but I would think he would value, you know,

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Speaker 1: the advice of someone like you, who's been there, who's

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Speaker 1: done that, who's lived the wife of an operator how

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Speaker 1: many years it's almost seventeen, Yeah, I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: hope a valuable opinion. It seems like once you get

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Speaker 1: to a certain level of even officers, especially at the

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Speaker 1: general officer level, when you get to this between oh six,

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Speaker 1: oh seven and then, um, I think that they stopped

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Speaker 1: worrying about what the people on the ground think and

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Speaker 1: start worrying about politics. Because there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people on the ground, even junior officers, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: even junior offers three and and and oh four and

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Speaker 1: then the like eight nine that they don't they don't want,

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Speaker 1: they don't listen to them anymore. Even though we could

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Speaker 1: have won a lot of these things simply by listening

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Speaker 1: to people on the ground, we wouldn't be in the

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Speaker 1: spot we're in now in Afghanistan if we would have

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Speaker 1: listened to what guys on the ground we're saying. In

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Speaker 1: two thousand five, just there was I had I had

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Speaker 1: a Navy seal admiral when I saiggest as something in

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Speaker 1: a meeting, say, I said something about I E. D

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Speaker 1: s and suicide bombers. He said, there's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as I E. D S and suicide bombers in Afghanistan,

508
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Speaker 1: which was true then. But we're like, we know that, sir,

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Speaker 1: but there will be Yeah, well there won't be. Like well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but there will be, but there won't. Yeah, okay, sir,

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Speaker 1: there will be. And then look who we have now. Now,

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Speaker 1: now you you get enough high ranking officers, politicians and

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Speaker 1: lawyer is involved, you get a situation like Afghanistan like okay,

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Speaker 1: what do we what are we supposed to do? Now? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what's interesting is that now we have people

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Speaker 1: in a position of authority in Congress like Dan Crenshaw

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Speaker 1: have seen the same thing as you've seen. I was

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Speaker 1: wondering your take on on how he feels about foreign

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Speaker 1: policy as well as yours, because one thing I've learned

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Speaker 1: from doing this show is that not just the military,

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Speaker 1: but the special operations world in general is definitely not

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Speaker 1: a monolith. Like when he was on with Jack Murphy

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Speaker 1: and I they vehemently disagreed on foreign policy. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jack is a guy who who says like, are we

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Speaker 1: gonna be in these nations forever? You know? And uh

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Speaker 1: Dan Crenshaw on the show was saying, look, we've been

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Speaker 1: in Germany for how many years we've been in Japan?

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe we do have to have a long

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Speaker 1: term presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. And these guys disagreed

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Speaker 1: on that type of stuff. I was want, do you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for either one of those two. I

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Speaker 1: can see pretty much both sides. But it's it's very different,

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Speaker 1: um staying in Nazi Germany than it is in Afghana. Stand,

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Speaker 1: there's a different there's a in Germany. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: the German people who knew what happened and then they

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Speaker 1: kind of they want to they want to try to

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Speaker 1: rebuild and help Afghanistan were now invaders. And the ideology

538
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Speaker 1: that we're fighting isn't going to be won by by

539
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Speaker 1: marines driving humbes through the three highways in Afghanistan. And

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Speaker 1: I mean now we're trying to apparently make peace with

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Speaker 1: the Taliban, which makes people say why did we even

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Speaker 1: go in the first place. Well, I mean, well, yeah,

543
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Speaker 1: look at John Walker Lens getting out of prison in May.

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Speaker 1: It's just gonna release him to Ireland. Like he's an

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Speaker 1: American talent and he city was associated when he's shooting

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Speaker 1: at those guys you know Dan, well he was Um

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Speaker 1: he should have been executed years ago. Um. Just we

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Speaker 1: with the thing, I think the only other than this

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Speaker 1: city of New York. The problem is people keep forgetting

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Speaker 1: to never forget and negotiating with the talent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that could have worked. As soon as we crushed al

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Speaker 1: Qaeda and as soon as they went to Pakistan could

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Speaker 1: have worked. It's it's it's the same thing with the

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Speaker 1: Bath party in Iraq. It's like, what do you do

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Speaker 1: when you find the Saddam Judi and Cus are out

556
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Speaker 1: of the They're out of there, but they're hidden. Now,

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Speaker 1: you keep the military at place, let them run their thing,

558
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Speaker 1: and then we'll find them eventually. With the Taliban. The Taliban,

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Speaker 1: first of all, if they thought we were serious, they

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Speaker 1: would have given us been lat They don't want any

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Speaker 1: they don't want anyone any foreigners, including al Qaeda in

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Speaker 1: in there. Now we are going to renegotiate, and they're

563
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Speaker 1: gonna do the same stuff they did when when the

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Speaker 1: Soviets left. You know, they're gonna tell the people they're back,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna live under light, Sharia whatever, and then as

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Speaker 1: soon then they're gonna just start turning the screws again.

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Speaker 1: The pruption will come back again. It's but so we

568
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Speaker 1: stay there, I mean, what are we gonna just keep

569
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Speaker 1: building schools to get blown up by them, keep getting

570
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Speaker 1: people killed for no reason and having people on the ground,

571
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Speaker 1: just say, do do the minimum amount you can to

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Speaker 1: make sure you and your friends get home. There's there's nothing,

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Speaker 1: There's nothing there. I mean what I mean what I

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Speaker 1: think we should do in Afghanistan. As you keep a

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Speaker 1: presence in Bogram at the airfield, so it's like it's

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Speaker 1: almost like a carrier. But you know, you have you

577
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Speaker 1: have the pilots there. If and when training camps get rebuilt,

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Speaker 1: you bomb them and then you can have the pilots.

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Speaker 1: Haven't green being coffee in a few hours anyway, Um,

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Speaker 1: keep keep the skeletal government in cobble with you know,

581
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Speaker 1: some diplomats and obviously security force, and then probably stuff

582
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Speaker 1: in places like Jelalabad for the cross border UM operation.

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Speaker 1: When you hit the drones strikes for senior level, I'll

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Speaker 1: kainda guys. And and if you know, if you've never

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Speaker 1: been in Jelalabad, uh, I have not the face they

586
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Speaker 1: have over there. It's like going to a European resort.

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Speaker 1: I have heard that in the show actually um Sean

588
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Speaker 1: Parnell was talking all about that on the show. Yeah,

589
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive about how he was just saying that,

590
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, being a guy on the ground doing the work,

591
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: then going back there, it's unbelievable. Like where am I? Yeah, yeah,

592
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: it's a personal showers, your personal room. They got a

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Speaker 1: bar with a dance floor on some of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: according to Sean Parnell on the podcast, Yeah, you could

595
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Speaker 1: get a full wax And he was like a guy

596
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Speaker 1: he was serving with said I'm gonna get waxed. And

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Speaker 1: it's just a funny story. That was really funny, And

598
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Speaker 1: Sean Partnell was like why And then he was just

599
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Speaker 1: thinking that this He's like, we're in the middle of

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Speaker 1: you know, supposedly in the combat. Yeah, and and this

601
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Speaker 1: guy wants to get his dick waxed. That's pretty funny.

602
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Speaker 1: And anything. Any story with a full wax is good.

603
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Speaker 1: I don't really care what part of the world you're in.

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Speaker 1: He's a funny it's oh yeah, yeah, I know Sean

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Speaker 1: Um it's he's got a great book too. Yes, I'll

606
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Speaker 1: love tune. Right, Yeah, he's got too, he's got another one. Okay,

607
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: I thought military didn't write books. I got a lot

608
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Speaker 1: of ship for that. Yeah, I'm de probably just talked

609
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Speaker 1: about the same I'm the only one who's ever written

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Speaker 1: a book. According to Brandon, like guys who gave him

611
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Speaker 1: ship for writing a book. Yeah, so of course they will. Well,

612
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Speaker 1: I've guys that gave me ship that they get out

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Speaker 1: and like, hey, how do I get on the speaker circuit?

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Speaker 1: And when do I starting? How much do I get paid?

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Speaker 1: Type ship? It's like, oh, we're good now. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's the bubble. It's the it's the bubble

617
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Speaker 1: of being in the teams, being in the military, where

618
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: you're there. I explained to people, Look, when you're in

619
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Speaker 1: high school and that girl breaks you heart in high

620
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: school is the most important thing in your life. It's

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Speaker 1: the most important thing in your life until it ends,

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Speaker 1: and it ends, and then you go to college, and

623
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Speaker 1: college is the most important thing in your life, nothing

624
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: like and then it ends. And so like with the Navy.

625
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: You join the Navy, you're in the teams, you're here,

626
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Speaker 1: you're it's the greatest, and then it ends. And as

627
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: soon as you leave, the Navy does not care about you,

628
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and they're not paying the bills. And that's the realization.

629
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Speaker 1: The bubbles there um, long live the brotherhood, all that

630
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: good stuff. But your mortgages do again. I was I

631
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: love to tell people, Yeah, you tell me about the

632
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: silent professional the day after your first mortgage payment after

633
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: you got out of the military. Well, since we're talking

634
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: about this, Brandon actually wanted me to bring it up

635
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: with you, and it was something he wanted to get

636
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: in with you. But as you know, Brandon is apparently

637
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Speaker 1: important traveling everywhere. But he was saying, um, you know,

638
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Speaker 1: and you've heard him talk about this, but these guys

639
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram who like attack other guys in

640
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: the community. We all know about Brandon's kind of feud

641
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: with Chris Osmond and that type of thing, and he

642
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: just feels like it's a bad look for the community,

643
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: setting a bad example. And I just wanted to get

644
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: your take on that. Well, my take is, first of all,

645
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: what is it? What? What is it? What are you

646
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: getting out of it? Other than if you're attacking someone else,

647
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: what are you getting out of it? Nothing? And you're

648
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: spreading negativity And again being in the bubble, you've got

649
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: to realize when you get to a public a platform,

650
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: it's not just your guys watching you. It's not just

651
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: other Navy seals or other other green Bray's world. It's

652
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: a there's there's a lot of potential like this. It

653
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: could affect recruiting. There's there's fourteen year old boys out

654
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: there watching this and they want to see something. Not

655
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: that they want to, but they should be seeing something else,

656
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: not this this petty whatever it is that I don't.

657
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean I I try not to engage in it.

658
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: A couple of cocktails and you know, I might have

659
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: with some people, but but it there's no reason to

660
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: eat your own I don't. I don't think successful people

661
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: want to see other people succeed. And I think part

662
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: of the problem is, um some people must be upset

663
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: with decisions they made in the past and they're taking

664
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: out on other people or something like that. But I

665
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: see no need for jealousy. Jealousy is just a weird

666
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: reflection on yourself. And we know when I see people succeed,

667
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: it's great. Good for you for sure, because you're You're

668
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: a guy who has succeeded so well, the guy that

669
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: succeeded because of other guys, and that was at a

670
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: position where I could go to This is where I

671
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: learned it. I would go to Seal Team six every

672
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: day and work with people who were better than me,

673
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: and instead of being jealous and trying to undermine them,

674
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: what is what habits is that guy doing? Why is

675
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: he so good at this? How how is he getting

676
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: to the draw so quick? Why is he moving to

677
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: the house so smooth? What can I do too? I

678
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: want to beat him, yes, but I'm not gonna just

679
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: undermine it. I'm not gonna try to drag him down

680
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: to my level. I'm trying to get up to his

681
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. I wanted to ask you as well.

682
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: I had Kristen Beck in here and asked her about it.

683
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: I I don't know if you know Jake's wig is

684
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: also a former steal I'm I'm familiar with Jake, and

685
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I think I met him like twice when he was

686
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: a Team eight. I think cool, Yeah, great guy. I

687
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: asked him his take. He's a he's a tough guy too.

688
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: By the way, I first, I haven't ever seen I've

689
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: heard stories and I've seen him physicalist. He's he's he's

690
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: pretty impressive about the Top Shot stuff, like allegedly from

691
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: what I heard, you know, he had a really bad

692
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: image on on Top Shot. It's like the villain of

693
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: that show. But from yeah, what I heard actually you

694
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: know behind the scenes stuff is that Jake was winning

695
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: every single contest and they were like, we can't have

696
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: this guy winning everything, and they were giving him guns

697
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: that don't work, and he's want to what assholes not him?

698
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, um so anyway back to what I was asking, Uh,

699
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: it's yeah, pretty crazy story. But yeah, so I asked Jake,

700
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: I asked Christen, wanted to get your take as well

701
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: on what's you know, happening with Chief Eddie Gallagher. And

702
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of different um sides to this,

703
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: I think because the guy's accusing Chief Eddie Gallagher of

704
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: war crimes are are also seals, and and there's been

705
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, questioning what's the motive and and also what

706
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: did he do. I would question the motive. First. I

707
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: was not there for any of this, and I've never

708
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: met Chief Gallagher. Um, if we're at a position where

709
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: our own guys in a combat zone or turning in

710
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: their guys, that's a sad state of affairs right there.

711
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: That's that's something that should be handled internally, and then

712
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the leadership inside of their should handle it. Some of

713
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: the accusations I've heard, whether he was ran codomly shooting

714
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: people all the time, and he was upsetting his junior guys.

715
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I've been a combat You are not allowed to randomly

716
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: shoot civilians anywhere. You can't just get away with it.

717
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. I mean, it's just it won't happen,

718
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: just based on based on all the technology that we have. Uh,

719
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard that he was running his guys

720
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: too hard and something like that. And then uh, I mean, see,

721
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: there's all these rumors, and I hate the rumors because

722
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: you don't know what's true. There was the rumors on

723
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: they say, well on social media, of him with a

724
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: decapitated head, which I'm pretty sure by now we would

725
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: have seen, right, It's not I don't I haven't seen it,

726
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: but they're saying that stuff. And then and then with um,

727
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: n c I S is all over him. And the

728
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: biggest problem with n c I S is they made

729
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: a really good show about n c I S. So

730
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: they think they're cool in there, and they're I mean,

731
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: they're they're, they're they're I can't even talk about them.

732
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get anything on the record. They're

733
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: they're pretty much disgusting. They're trying to they're trying to

734
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: convict our own guys. So um, um, he's got a

735
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: problem with n c I S. And I guess again,

736
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: rumor mill I don't want to start anything there there

737
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: they they they were a fraid of retributions from him,

738
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: so they locked him. And now he's been in how

739
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: long has been locked up seven months now a lot

740
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: and so it'll be it'll be over over half a

741
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: year when he gets his first day in court that

742
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: he's been locked up in general population with convicted sex offenders.

743
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Um and he and I mean not saying that he's

744
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: in danger of that, but like, these are horrible people,

745
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: and they've got Chief Gallagher, who I consider a hero,

746
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, at the at the at at the at

747
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: the least and a defender of of not only these guys,

748
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: but of our country. And now he's he's being treated

749
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: like a criminal evenly hasn't had his dayn court yet.

750
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: It's it's a shame. He should be with his family.

751
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: Look what Look what they're doing to his family. That

752
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: the raid on the house to get him out, you know,

753
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: or or pulling the kids out. What just horrible stuff

754
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: they're doing. He should at least he should, I mean,

755
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: if anything, he should be a house arrest or something.

756
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: But he's he's in a break and wearing meromor I

757
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: wish I knew more about it right right now, but

758
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: it's just I don't I don't like it. No, I

759
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: I hear you. And it's something we've discussed on the

760
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: podcast at length. Jack Murphy though is talked about it.

761
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: It's been written about it, you know the News rep

762
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: dot com. And the thing that Jack said to Jake,

763
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: and they see him to be somewhat on opposing side,

764
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: and this was let's say these accusations are true, that

765
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: he's murdering you know, children with hatchets and and this

766
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: type of thing that was mentioned. Is this who we

767
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: are and and you know, should you not out guys

768
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: for doing that type of thing? And you know, Jake

769
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: talked about the savagery that isis has done of murdering pilots,

770
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, in cages, but Jack's rebottled of that. On

771
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: the show that we did with him, was you know,

772
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: are we just going to be doing the same. Yeah,

773
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: but it's it's one thing to be murdering kids with hatchets,

774
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: it's another thing to be accused of murdering kids with hatchets.

775
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: It just it's getting, it's getting. There's no proof of

776
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: any of this. And I'm serious when I say that

777
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: if you're doing this, someone's someone's gonna say something. You're

778
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna stop, You're gonna get pull off the battlefield. So

779
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: why do you think these seals came out and did this?

780
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: I I don't. I can't even speculate. Uh, they obviously

781
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: have a bone to pick. And I've you know again,

782
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: I hate the rumors because I've having been places where

783
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: people weren't but they make judgment. Kind of makes me

784
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: hesitant to say to say anything. But it just sounds

785
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: like of a not a rivalry, but just uh, they

786
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: don't like them. And I've heard whisper campaigns and crap

787
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: like that. So I don't know. I wish I was.

788
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: I wish you would get quicker day in court with

789
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: evidence because it's it's just not regardless, it's a shame.

790
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: What's happening to him right now? Yeah, I don't like it. Well,

791
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Um. I I do see both

792
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: sides on on you know, some level. The thing that's

793
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: just interesting though, is like I said that the two guys,

794
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: it's two guys right accusing him. I don't even know

795
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: that I can look, yeah, but we can both check out.

796
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, when I when I just see that these

797
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: guys are former seals, you know, it's not it's not

798
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: like it's at top level of the military going after seals.

799
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: It's seals going after fellows. And you can't do that.

800
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta maintain the trust, especially

801
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: in a combat zone like that, and they shouldn't be

802
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: doing that. Uh So I was wondering some other stuff

803
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: that we could hit on here. Oh you know what

804
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: you brought up before, Tim Montana. You were in his

805
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: video for the one that which would We filmed the

806
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: video a couple of years ago that you need to

807
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: check out on YouTube called hill Billy Rich. Yes, we

808
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: talked about that. I think Hillbilly Rich is um. I

809
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: think it's his best song. It's definitely his best video

810
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: that's out right now because yeah, I mean no, it's

811
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: just a cool video. We had a lot of stuff

812
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: going on. Rolls Royce, uh, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, cheerleaders, mansions, helicopters,

813
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: very fun and you get fast food right well, yeah,

814
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: two guys from Montana. If you steal uh a Rolls

815
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Royce Wraith, you're gonna go to You're gonna go to

816
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: Checkerburder right off the bat. Nice plug by the way.

817
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I like that if you're listening. Um so, then he

818
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: just filmed one in in our hometown of Butte, Montana

819
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: with a bunch of locals. It's a total blue collar

820
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: uh song. We we feature first responders, costs, firefighters, miners, welders.

821
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: My father is in it. He made a cameo for

822
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: on My Behalf. He's hold my my red buds helmet

823
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: for third phase and that's called American Threat and that's

824
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: just becoming a kind of It's it's slowly I think

825
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: it got. It got top twenty on on on iTunes

826
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and so American threads out there right now. We're checking

827
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: out great song and then we we just finished filming

828
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: when in Nashville. Um, that actually Charlie Sheen directed, which

829
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: is cool, and that one's called Mostly Stone. How did

830
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: that happen? How did Charlie Sheen? I mean, how do

831
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: you even get in touch with I introduced Charlie and

832
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Tim maybe a year ago and I met I met

833
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: Charlie through my father because of something with the r

834
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: j O apparel stuff. Charlie's got a hatless plug. If

835
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: you're watching on you get one of those Robert ja

836
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: O'Neil dot com. Also there's also personalized signed books stuf,

837
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: so we will say we'll send you one today. Um um,

838
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: yeah something out. Charlie and I got introduced through that.

839
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: And then he invited me to dinner at his house.

840
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: So I've been been to his house a few days. Yeah,

841
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: it's cool. And then he's he came, he came out here,

842
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: he brought me to he did the show with Andy

843
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Cohen for um something. We just went we came went

844
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: to dinner here at um Uncle Jack stay, I'm dropping

845
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: some names. Um, so we're doing all this, and I'd say, what,

846
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: you haven't really seen PAPARAZZI, tell you hang out Charlie

847
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: she in New York. It's pretty funny. It's funny because

848
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: we're inside sip and scotch having red wine, and I

849
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: don't assume getting walking out into Sunlight's just stuff everywhere.

850
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: And to be fair, it's also because of who you are.

851
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't know Charlie. Charlie's got a bigger following, of course,

852
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: but it's also just a weird meeting between Charlie Sheen

853
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: and your background. It's it's it is weird, and and

854
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: he's funny. He calls it some cosmic collection of however,

855
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: Charlie talks type and so I introduced. I introduced. I

856
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: sent Charlie Um the video Hill Billy Rich and he

857
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: he just called it, h what did he call it? Uh? Um?

858
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: What did he call that? Uh? He called it something

859
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: a classic, but it was it was a lot cooler

860
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: than what I'm what I'm saying, but a cold, cold,

861
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: hard classic. So he tweeted that out and that I

862
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: introduced them. Timmy went out to to the to their

863
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: and they decided that he wanted to direct the music video.

864
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: So Charlie flew out to Nashville and the songs. It's

865
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: called mostly Stoned and it's being released on four twenty,

866
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: which is appropriate, I think. And it's just a really

867
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: I've seen the video. Um, it's not released yet, but

868
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: i've the whole thing. He Charlie is a really talented

869
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: guy and he's got some great vision and just the

870
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: whole videos is, uh, it's excellent. It's it's it's good.

871
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: So I was on Crispy's in it um if you

872
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: follow him on on Insta, and then Timmy obviously, and

873
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: he actually brought out the uh, the red convertible from

874
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: the movie Navy Seals as a surprise to Tim and

875
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: it's as a Montana plate said em stoned and so

876
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: that that's in the video too. It's were you a

877
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: fan of the Navy Seals? Yeah, oh yeah, I saw

878
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: it as soon as it came out. It's so crazy

879
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: because I feel like every Seal comes on the show

880
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: is like a fane of yeah movies. Also, Drago has

881
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: said before that the reason he joined the Seal because

882
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals. You know that the bar in Virginia

883
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Beach called the Ready Room, um, and that's less than

884
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: a mile from where I lived in Virginia Beach. That's

885
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: that's in the movie Navy Seals. So I was boy,

886
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: that was I'm with fifteen years old watching a movie

887
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: with my future friend in a bar that I will

888
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: hang out in. It's in one of those crazy, smallest

889
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: full circle type things. Yeah. So I liked the movie.

890
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to join, but I did like the movie.

891
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was cool. I didn't.

892
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: I didn't decide for another five years after that movie

893
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: came out that I was going to join. That's that's crazy. Yeah,

894
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like the consensus has always been, oh,

895
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: the movie is really cheesy. But at the same time,

896
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: I loved it was cheesy. That's supposed to be. It's awesome.

897
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: But the guy that's um that did the jump off

898
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: the bridge in the movie Navy Seals, he was out

899
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: there with us too. That's it's been Charlie's um um

900
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: stunt man for the whole time. I'm excited for Top

901
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: Gun two when that comes out. How about that is? Yeah? Yeah,

902
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: because obviously it could be terrible. It's gonna go one

903
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: or two ways. Super Troopers two was I liked it, Okay,

904
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: I was worried about that. So, I mean top you

905
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: know they were gonna make a Forest Gump sequel. I

906
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: did not know that that's a true story. Um they

907
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: I think they handed in the script on September two

908
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: thousand one, and obviously the next day, and they decided

909
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: that this movie doesn't matter anymore. I'm not making that up.

910
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: I would think the the appeal to have a Top

911
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Gun too is like we because I know, Top Gun

912
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: was like a military recruitment tool on some level, and

913
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: all the movies coming out now, unfortunately, because we've been

914
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: at war for so many years, they're like these very

915
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: tragic stories of uh, you know guys like, uh wow,

916
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: why I'm why am I drawing a blank? Here? Chris

917
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: uh Kyle? Chris Kyle? Sorry? How am I? How am

918
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: I drawing a blank? And christ Um Yeah, no, So

919
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: you know the stories of Chris Kyle, the stories of

920
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: Marcus Latrelle. These are really crazy stories in Chris Kyle's case,

921
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: tragic stories. And I feel like Top Gun was just

922
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: a fun movie recruitment tool for this even even the

923
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: even the bad guys in Top Gun, they had the

924
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: dark mass. We don't know what's country they're from. Could

925
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: be China, could be Russia, could be whatever, Seria, who

926
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: knows what it was. But now it's I mean, I'm

927
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: assuming top gun's gotta be something like carrier guys hitting

928
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: targets in Afghanistas. Something like that's gonna be interesting to see.

929
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: So they're so old now they could never know. I

930
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna they'll figure it out. We

931
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: were we were actually at the ready room, and this

932
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: is another I just thought of. This was a top gun.

933
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Another funny story because the ready room is right by

934
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: Damn Nick. But Damn Nick is an annex of Oceania,

935
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: which is a Master Jet base, which is where all

936
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: the f A teams are. So we're at the ready

937
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: room and there was some pilots in there, and you know,

938
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: young cocky pilots and there's young cocky Navy seals talking

939
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: to each other and they said they were talking about

940
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: something about the coolest job in the Navy. And one

941
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: of the one of my buddies, said to the pilot,

942
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: he said, you know, damn well, there are no uh,

943
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: there are no tom cruises in the Navy. But we

944
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: got plenty chairlie sheets inside that was kind of funny. Yeah, yeah,

945
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: I just thought of that. I wanted to ask you

946
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: before you wrap up, because you're another guy like me

947
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: who's uh And I know from reading your book Into

948
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: Metal into hip Hop on your Instagram that you'll be

949
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: wearing like an Onyx hoodie. Oh yeah, you love like

950
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: the nineties hip hop I got. I got the Onyx

951
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: hoodie from Onyx based on a post in my Wu

952
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: Tang shirt they saw. I'm like, so this could work,

953
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: this influencing on social media, ship could work. Yeah, I

954
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: know that, and there's great stories. So here's what I

955
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you for me. I mean, I'm I'm

956
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: thirty two years old, so I'm younger than you, but

957
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: I still was around when like that nineties hip hop

958
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: was a big thing. I got into music very young.

959
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: I grew up in on Long Island, right near Queens

960
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: and it was like you couldn't go anywhere without here,

961
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, cannabis, l oh, cool j Wu Tang clan, Onyx,

962
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: like I could go on the list, you know, cool

963
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: g rap nas for you. Growing up in Montana was

964
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: like a weird thing to be into. No no, because

965
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: um I so we're talking right you know, early um

966
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: we I was. I played basketball and I hung out

967
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: with the basketball crowd, and even though we're all white guys,

968
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask. It was like, are there black you? Yeah?

969
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: It obviously mostly mostly white. Um. But because we played

970
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: basketball and because we were watching like the Pistons, the Bulls,

971
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: it was okay for us to listen to hip hop.

972
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: So I remember when when Snoop came out with dre

973
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Um and you know, UM, so we would listen to

974
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: that a lot of ice cubes, you know, a midnight

975
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: iced tea. So it was okay for us because we

976
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: we didn't know what fucking dorics we were, but that's

977
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: how I and I would I remember I actually went

978
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: back to the house I grew up in maybe a

979
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: month ago, to the hoop I used to shoot on.

980
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I remember listening to UM to Onyx out there, you know,

981
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: with my shitty little headphones before like a like a

982
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: walkman and all that stuff. It's just it's funny, yeah,

983
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: but I love all of it, like, you know, everything

984
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: from from you know on one end you got Sticky

985
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Fingers and Onyx too, to Tim Montana over here that

986
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: you got you know, metallic has been around forever, and

987
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big Demon Hunter fan. It's like there's not

988
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: just you know, just don't don't limit yourself the thing

989
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: I love and it's okay for white guys listening. Yes,

990
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: I agree, of course. And you know what I feel

991
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: like in New York it's like a given that's okay.

992
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: I think the rest of the country it's I don't know,

993
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: but um. The thing I love about Onyx is like

994
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: when I'm lifting, when I'm working out, I'm listening to

995
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: mostly metal. To me, Onyx is comparable to that in

996
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: its heaviness. It's such angry music, like the way he

997
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: sticks later a star reps. It's just he's been he's

998
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: been angry forever. Yeah. You know. You know who's still

999
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: around that I'm following on Instagram is a Cypress Hill

1000
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: and they're still crushing amazing. Yeah. No, you know what

1001
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you. And I still don't know

1002
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: if that lead singers white or black. I think he

1003
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: might be mixed, don't might be real. Yeah, I think

1004
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: because I was saying nowadays the stuff he was saying,

1005
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: some of the words he was using in the nineties,

1006
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: is it still cool? Friend? And says I don't think

1007
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: he's white though. I think he's I think he's mixed

1008
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: or he's good bad um. But it was funny because

1009
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: we're talking about music. I was gonna tell you if

1010
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you look behind here, which is where you signed, and

1011
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: you signed right over there where the guys that never quit.

1012
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: So a lot more guys have signed since you've been here.

1013
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I had my friend Sean the Butcher, who's a DJ

1014
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: on Serious X and Liquid Metals, signed that. So you've

1015
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: shown the Butcher right, Yeah, I love the Only Easy

1016
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Days Yes Day. And he's asking me about all these signatures.

1017
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: He's like, who's that. Oh that's Scott Kelly Um, retired

1018
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: US astronauts, spent the most days in space. Oh that's

1019
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: that's Rob O'Neil has been a lading shooter. And then

1020
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: he looks at himself. He's like, god, I fucking suck.

1021
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: So it was fun having him in. I had him

1022
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: on with Pat McNamara and we just talked about all

1023
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: because Pat is like, I was gonna ask you a

1024
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 1: few random questions. I actually wrote down here in terms

1025
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: of music, we'll do one metal and one hip hop one,

1026
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: and then we'll we'll wrap up here. But Tupac or Biggie.

1027
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: That is a tough one. Right right now it's Biggie,

1028
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: but a year ago it would have been Tupac, because

1029
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. That's a tough one. It's

1030
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: crazy to think how young they were too. I'm going

1031
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm going big okay, and the full discography like that

1032
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: they put out, you know, I mean, I think twenty four.

1033
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: It's just crazy to me the amount of music they

1034
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: put out at that young age. Yeah. Um, and then

1035
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: of the Big four mattal A, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax. Okay,

1036
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I agree with you on now on because I feel

1037
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: like Metallica. I love a lot of Slayer stuff, a

1038
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: lot of Megadeth stuff, but Metallica probably has like the

1039
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: best catalog. Yeah, well they do, they do, and and

1040
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: again you gotta keep politics out of everything. But yeah,

1041
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: that's just the lungevity. They're all, they're all, They're all

1042
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: around the um. I have an awesome picture of to

1043
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: just to totally name drop of my mom. We were

1044
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: backstage at a Jim Jeffreys concert with my mom. Jim

1045
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Jeffre's comedian and the lead nice. Yeah that was pretty Chimariah. Yeah,

1046
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: the thing all lead guitars. Sorry, carry king bald dude

1047
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: with all the sorry that. Yeah, so I think they're retiring.

1048
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: I think they're still like doing a few more shows.

1049
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: It's like this long retirement tour and then they're done.

1050
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Supposedly Kisses retiring. Yeah that kiss said they were retiring.

1051
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: I am. I'm actually going tomorrow. And the the embarrassing

1052
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: thing though, is and watching like, dude, Paul Stanley is

1053
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: up there lip singing. Yeah, dude, it's it's very obvious

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00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: and it's well, they've been at it since. It's said

1055
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: to see though, man like I understand a little backing

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00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: track here there, like I want to there's perform. There's

1057
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: no way he still has that voice though, Yeah, no

1058
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't. And Gene Simmons is still fine, but uh yeah,

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00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean I I just it's kind of weird that

1060
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: this is how they're going out. I mean, I know

1061
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: that they've been a band since the seventies, but it's like, no,

1062
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: but still singing. Gene sounds great. Yeah, Gene still sounds good. Um,

1063
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: the band is as a whole, but Paul Stanley has

1064
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: lost his voice and personally, I'd rather see him like

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00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: struggle through these songs. Yeah, you know, like I'm a

1066
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: huge Motley Crew fan, which I'm excited to see the

1067
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: dirt coming out. But Vince Neil, he's his voice. Is

1068
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: not what that's that's a documentary right, No, it isn't

1069
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: a movie because I know the book. The books incredible,

1070
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: The book was great, incredible. Yeah, I'm like, you're almost

1071
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: getting goose bumps, like how how are you still alive?

1072
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: It's like that old saying. It's like, you know, we

1073
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: gotta start thinking about not not with my the crew,

1074
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: but we gotta to start thinking about what kind of

1075
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: a world we're gonna leave behind. For Keith Richards, he's

1076
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: gonna be outlive all of us, and he's still having

1077
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: kids get out. Yeah. I think recently either him or

1078
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger had like another kid love one of NICKI

1079
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: six just had another kid. So yeah, actually other than

1080
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Tim Montana, what what have you been listening to? Wait?

1081
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Any new stuff or um news now? Uh, not really

1082
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: anything new. I'm a big Avenge seven Fold fans. I like,

1083
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: I like a lot of this Stuf'm trying to think

1084
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: anything new that's on my Uh, I've been like shazaming stuff.

1085
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: So I'm finding like random stuff here and there that

1086
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: it's and it's everything from hip hop to uh um

1087
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: not when I lift, Like now, I'm listening to podcasts

1088
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: and and and books and stuff just just I can't

1089
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: when I lift, but I listen when I left, I can.

1090
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: But and then but when I'm doing cardio, I'll watch UM.

1091
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: I'll watch TV shows like Workaholics or or ap Bios,

1092
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: a New One or obviously UM always Signings Philadelphia, because

1093
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: I like, I like to laugh and almost fall off

1094
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: the treadmill. It's just I've done it before, I fallen off.

1095
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I've fallen laughing and uh at the busiest time in

1096
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: the gym, him and everyone of the gym kind of

1097
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: did the whole like everyone saw it, like okay, good,

1098
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: no one saw it. And I'm like the little lady

1099
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: that works came up with a cold tell like well

1100
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: this hellth like so you saw it, Yeah that's great, Yeah,

1101
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: so just leave mid workout. Yeah. No. For me, it's

1102
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: a lot of metal on hip hop. Although I can't

1103
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: get into this new I feel like an old man,

1104
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: but this new like trap music that all sounds the same,

1105
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: it's the exact same flow, just like what is this?

1106
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: I can I don't know, maybe I'm getting old. Are Yeah,

1107
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: that's it's it's tough, but that's what's happening. Yeah, So

1108
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: like Takashi sixty nine and all that, I'm just I

1109
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: listened to it and I'm just like it sounds so

1110
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: how could you even compare this to Wu Tang Client

1111
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: or nas amazing lyricism? You know, I can't. Yeah, we

1112
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: are getting old. Yeah, it's almost like should turn that

1113
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,520
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Speaker 1: with us on software at software radio dot com. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: anything else before we get out of here. Yes, as

1155
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: you were doing that, I had to look at my

1156
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: playlist and I needed to give a shout out to

1157
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: the Eagles of Death Metal. They've got one of the

1158
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: best best front man in the business. So I was

1159
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: listening to I've been listening to them lately too. I

1160
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: forgot about a couple unique sounds I had had had

1161
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: a drop and had a name drop one more time,

1162
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: and I feel like everybody knows them unfortunately for the bottom. Yeah,

1163
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: that was them, which isn't insanely shitty. Yeah, I mean,

1164
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: and it's a weird way to get publicity. That's how

1165
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: I heard him. Really Yeah. I watched the documentary and

1166
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: then I started, uh um checking them out. So they're

1167
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: really good. I didn't know that if they're a documentary

1168
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: in Netflix Um, I don't know where I found it,

1169
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: but I was. I was at home one day, like

1170
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: in a good mood, so I decided to see if

1171
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: I could stomach it. And it is a that's a

1172
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what the name. Check it out. I

1173
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: don't know what the documentary. I'm sure if you just

1174
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: look up Eagles and yeah, it's They're They're They're obviously

1175
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: really scarred. And for those not in the know, because

1176
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: I like I am familiar with them despite the name.

1177
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: Not a death metal band, Oh no, no, They're a kicking.

1178
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: They're one of the best live shows. Like, I gotta

1179
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: see them. I'm gonna find more that people would have

1180
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: that Eagles. That look when I heard on my hill

1181
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: is a death metal band playing Paris. But they are

1182
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: a blast and I've been listening to them, so I

1183
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: wanted to cool. Well, Um, Robert J. O'Neill dot com,

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: Your Grateful Nation dot org, at Micula on Twitter, on Instagram,

1185
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: what you've told the story for before? Yeah, it's Maculia

1186
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: is a name because when I was still in I

1187
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: think one of my buddies told me about this new

1188
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: thing called Twitter. And it's a lot of fun and

1189
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: you just make up a fake name and then we

1190
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: just messed with each other and you can, you can

1191
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: f with other people and um, so Mikulia, is you

1192
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: know who you are? With an MC like Irish Mila

1193
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: and something that I WoT on overnight. Overnight when my

1194
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: name was leaked, I woke up with like ten thousand

1195
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: followers and I'm like, God, damn it, I guess I'm Acula.

1196
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: Now do you wish it was at Robert j O'Neil.

1197
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I should have done that, but I don't think whatever it's,

1198
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 1: it'll it'll, it'll catch on. I I dig it though. Yeah,

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: I think it's cool to have you know something that's

1200
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: just a different nickname. Dude. Always great scene that we

1201
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: finally did this end because it's like it's been quite

1202
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: a while. Um, we'll do this again. And I like

1203
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: hearing your take on issues and all that other. Yeah,

1204
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: we'll talk more music next time. I'll be I'll be

1205
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: better prepared. We should. Maybe we can get like I said,

1206
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: shown the Butcher and we'll talk battles. Totally fun. Man,

1207
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Speaker 1: All right, great as always, man, thank you for it.

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