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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anna and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to steff I never told you production by

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Speaker 2: Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: And welcome to another edition of wine. Except I don't

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Speaker 1: have a wine. I just have water. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say hydrated. How about that? Oh yeah, I know, right,

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Speaker 1: are you slipping on something?

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Speaker 2: Anny, I am. I think we're in the same boat

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Speaker 2: as a lot of people in the US right now.

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Speaker 2: It is very cold. We hope everyone's doing well. I

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Speaker 2: heated up some water and put a splash of whiskey, lemon, ginger, cinnamon.

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Speaker 2: Very nice.

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Speaker 1: Nice, that's actually that was smart. So you can't have teas,

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Speaker 1: you can't do a hot Nope, that's a good way

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Speaker 1: to go. Yes, So we are not currently sponsored by anything.

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Speaker 1: Just FYI, if you are drinking something a B safe,

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Speaker 1: be conscient, just on what you were taking. Stay hydrated,

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Speaker 1: stay warm, and yeah, do what you need to to

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Speaker 1: be at your best self. And then that means just

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Speaker 1: laying about. Do that because that is also delightful. With

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Speaker 1: a heated blanket is even better. Annie. Just so you know,

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Speaker 1: Samantha's really pushing for Reid to get I love heated blankets.

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Speaker 1: I know there could be some hazards. Don't use it

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Speaker 1: all the time, but when you're sitting in a cold

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Speaker 1: Just so you know. But today for my hydrated session,

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Speaker 1: I had the weirdest thing happened. And I've already told

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Speaker 1: you this, and I'm really kind of like wondering the

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Speaker 1: level that people really go to for their businesses and

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Speaker 1: for you know, just trying to make money. And don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, you gotta make money. You have to live.

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Speaker 1: The system sucks to a certain extent, and doing things

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Speaker 1: like running your own business, being in real estate, being

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Speaker 1: any of those things, you have to do what you

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Speaker 1: have to do to make connections. It really sucks that

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Speaker 1: a lot of networking is involved to truly actually be successful,

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Speaker 1: and it's not just all about good work, which I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying this person doesn't do good work. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea, but the levels that we go through, and

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Speaker 1: I think I also think about this with like the pyramids,

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Speaker 1: seems to be a crossing of boundaries, which I find

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Speaker 1: kind of concerning. Like I respect you doing what you

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Speaker 1: And again, if I'm your friend and we have been

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Speaker 1: there for each other, that's one thing. Like the person

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Speaker 1: who help me buy my house, y'all know her. She's

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Speaker 1: a friend of the show Melody. She's one of the

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Speaker 1: I think, one of the best realtors that could be

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Speaker 1: out there. She did a lot in making sure I

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Speaker 1: business ethics. I know that she knows what I want

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Speaker 1: has the ethical level of what I want in buying

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Speaker 1: like that, like that is one thing she's never ever

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Speaker 1: tried to come at me, be like you should buy

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Speaker 1: out they're trying to sell makeup. I've not talked to

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Speaker 1: This also escalated when she was gone on a trip

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of credits for being on Behind

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Speaker 1: the And there was another Samantha McVey in Kennesaw. As

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I think if you'd just like sent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an email you never you don't

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Speaker 2: it might have changed now, but when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, perhaps the technology has changed, perhaps

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're learning it.

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Speaker 1: We're learning things today.

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