Speaker 1: Episode four eighteen Minimalist skincare Routines.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 2: save money, embrace simplicity, and live your life. Here your
Speaker 2: hosts Jen and Jill.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen,
Speaker 1: my name is Jill. And today we're talking about our
Speaker 1: Lord and Savior, the holy trinity of skincare, moisturizers, cleansers,
Speaker 1: and sunscreen, and a little bit more. We're diving a
Speaker 1: little bit deeper than just that. Please tune into the
Speaker 1: following forty five minutes of the episode. Don't just leave now,
Speaker 1: but that.
Speaker 3: Is cost more to it though.
Speaker 1: That is what most of you said is your skincare routine.
Speaker 1: And that's great. And if you're looking to start a
Speaker 1: skincare routine or minimize, like make your skincare routine a
Speaker 1: little more minimalist, this is we are here for you.
Speaker 1: If you're looking you're already minimalists, you're looking to maybe
Speaker 1: alter or get better. You think you need more products,
Speaker 1: maybe you just need different products. We're covering all of
Speaker 1: it today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why have a minimalist and caroutine? What it can
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Speaker 1: self care. Then we have several episodes on this topic.
Speaker 1: We have episode three sixty Saving Money on Makeup, episode
Speaker 1: three thirty six, how to get self care and healthcare
Speaker 1: treatments for free or low cost. Those two compliment this
Speaker 1: episode so well, so definitely queue them up three sixty
Speaker 1: three thirty six. It's going to be a self care
Speaker 1: Sunday for you with all three of these episodes?
Speaker 3: Is it Sunday?
Speaker 1: It could be if they're listening to it on Sunday?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're just being real specific about here.
Speaker 1: Ye, I mean, any day could be a self care day.
Speaker 3: You just want we just like a literation over here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, Well, the article that we're primarily going through
Speaker 3: today comes from comfort Zone and it's titled The Power
Speaker 3: of a Minimalist Skincare Routine. It's quite a lengthy one,
Speaker 3: but we're going to talk about the benefits of a
Speaker 3: minimalist skincare routine and how to create a minimalist skincare routine.
Speaker 1: We're just going to call it skincare routine from here
Speaker 1: on out because that's a lot of syllables.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the first one that I'm going to highlight
Speaker 3: here is that it's cost effective that when you don't
Speaker 3: have a whole lot going into how you care for
Speaker 3: your skin. When it's when it's not a twelve step
Speaker 3: process and it's closer to a two step process, maybe
Speaker 3: even a three step process, it's going to be more
Speaker 3: cost effective because you're buying less, you're buying fewer things.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that you can't purchase high quality product,
Speaker 3: but if you're buying less of them, you could still
Speaker 3: win out in the long run financially.
Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons to minimize is so that
Speaker 1: we can use the best quality products on our skin.
Speaker 1: Our skin is our largest organ we should be prioritizing,
Speaker 1: you know, high quality when we're putting it on our skin.
Speaker 1: This isn't like a steam cleaner that we just we
Speaker 1: just covered high quality, affordable cost steam cleaners in the
Speaker 1: front letter. I was like, this is not a steam leaner.
Speaker 1: This is your skin. So you do want to be
Speaker 1: conscious of what you put on it. And we can
Speaker 1: afford to put higher quality products on our skin when
Speaker 1: we are buying fewer.
Speaker 3: Of them, and a skincare routine of any sort that
Speaker 3: is good. Using high quality products can help in cost prevention,
Speaker 3: like preventing you from getting early on set skin cancer
Speaker 3: or skin.
Speaker 1: Cancer at all, all the things that come with not
Speaker 1: enough sun care or not enough care for our skin.
Speaker 1: Prevention is always going to be more affordable than treatment
Speaker 1: or correction.
Speaker 3: So this isn't just.
Speaker 1: A cosmetic thing, like we are really looking into the
Speaker 1: future and hoping to prevent as many health care expenses
Speaker 1: in the future as we can. The next benefit of
Speaker 1: a minimalist skincare routine is that it is time saving.
Speaker 1: And I'm also going to loop this in with another
Speaker 1: one on the list, that it is easier to stick to.
Speaker 1: So the fewer things that we have, there's obviously no
Speaker 1: shortage of skincare products to choose from. The fewer we do,
Speaker 1: the more time we save. And so if you're like
Speaker 1: a busy mom like me, I hate to that sounds
Speaker 1: like I'm starting to add. If you're a busy mom
Speaker 1: like me, no, but if you barely have time to
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and morning like while getting your
Speaker 1: kids ready, then this is a must. This is the
Speaker 1: way we make this sustainable. So it's going to be
Speaker 1: time saving, which means it's going to be easier to
Speaker 1: stick to. So remember when we buy things we want
Speaker 1: to use them. That's another big mistake that we make
Speaker 1: is that we buy these things with the best of intentions,
Speaker 1: and we don't pay attention to the season of life
Speaker 1: that we're in or how long it's going to take
Speaker 1: to do the twelve step process. So we have all
Speaker 1: these great products, but they don't get used because they
Speaker 1: don't fit in with the lifestyle. So pay attention to
Speaker 1: how your mornings and your evenings go. Maybe your evenings
Speaker 1: are more flexible and you can afford to do a
Speaker 1: little extra at night, So pay attention to those. Because
Speaker 1: the best way to save money on skincare is to
Speaker 1: use the full skincare product before it expires.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the worst. When you forget that something's around,
Speaker 3: you're not using it. Then finally you decide I'm going
Speaker 3: to use it and then rash. Yep, oh big old
Speaker 3: red rash, straight to rash. Yes. Another benefit of keeping
Speaker 3: your skincare routine minimal is that there are fewer potential
Speaker 3: skin irritants. So rash if yeh, speaking of rashes. If
Speaker 3: you have sensitive skin, then this is definitely for you,
Speaker 3: But just really any of us, the fewer products we have,
Speaker 3: the less likely we are to be exposing our skin
Speaker 3: to irritating ingredients using too many products, just stacking and
Speaker 3: stacking and stacking can cause skin issues like breakouts, blemishes,
Speaker 3: dark spots, hyperpigmentation, and not to mention that then it's
Speaker 3: difficult to pinpoint what ingredients are causing a reaction when
Speaker 3: you're using a whole bunch of different stuff. So when
Speaker 3: you can really narrow it down to a really good,
Speaker 3: simple routine, then you can reap all the benefits that
Speaker 3: we been describing, but also hopefully help your skin out
Speaker 3: in the long run, have less irritance than greater levels
Speaker 3: of confidence in the way that your skin looks with
Speaker 3: a really great routine. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Then the next one for me is less clutter. I
Speaker 1: love anything that minimizes clutter because the more clutter we
Speaker 1: have around it impacts our decision making for the rest
Speaker 1: of the day. Right we wake up and we process,
Speaker 1: our head processes the number of things that we see
Speaker 1: in our house, and the more clutter we have when
Speaker 1: we wake up, that impacts negatively our decision making throughout
Speaker 1: the day. So if we can start with a minimalist
Speaker 1: skincare routine and minimize that clutter, already. That started us
Speaker 1: on a better foundation for the day to make other
Speaker 1: decisions later on. And it can it can be stressful
Speaker 1: when you have all of these products and you don't
Speaker 1: know if they're working, and you're like, should I keep
Speaker 1: using this one? I should use it because I bought it,
Speaker 1: but should I be using it at the same time
Speaker 1: as this, and YadA YadA. I get testers of like
Speaker 1: skincare products every once in a while, and I try
Speaker 1: to use them up and incorporate them, and I'm always
Speaker 1: asking what order should I put this in? Like because
Speaker 1: there is a specific order, right skincare girlies, No, there's
Speaker 1: a specific order this stuff goes in. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to google it again, and what does this do?
Speaker 1: Does it? Is it doing the same thing as another thing?
Speaker 1: So like it's not just like less clutter on your vanity,
Speaker 1: it's less clutter in your brain. And I mean the
Speaker 1: benefits beyond that, like it's it helps you. So having
Speaker 1: an actual skin care routine is great because it allows
Speaker 1: you to create these solid routines that minimize the chaos
Speaker 1: and the clutter of your schedule, and you can stack
Speaker 1: new habits onto it. So you can either stack a
Speaker 1: new skincare routine onto an old routine like brushing your teeth,
Speaker 1: and then in the future, when you're trying to build
Speaker 1: another new habit, maybe like tracking your expenses or checking
Speaker 1: your net worth or something financial, you can stack it
Speaker 1: onto your skincare routine. So yeah, it just it lessens
Speaker 1: the clutter physically and mentally. And I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all love that.
Speaker 1: And in our schedule, our mourning like schedule routine are
Speaker 1: all around.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the how to of creating a minimal
Speaker 3: skincare routine. So the first is that you're going to
Speaker 3: want to assess what type of skincare needs you have.
Speaker 3: They list out some common skin types, being acne prone
Speaker 3: or oily, skin sensitive skin, dry skin, or a combination.
Speaker 3: Could mean that you've got some spots on your skin
Speaker 3: that are dry other parts that may be more oily.
Speaker 3: But the good news is that there are products for
Speaker 3: all types of people. So chances are you probably have
Speaker 3: a decent understanding of what your skin type is. But
Speaker 3: of course, uh something you can ask the dermatologist or
Speaker 3: a friend who might know. If they've done deep dives
Speaker 3: on the type of skin that people have, you can
Speaker 3: probably there's probably a quiz even, But then we also
Speaker 3: have linked in our show notes the different types. So
Speaker 3: the trinity that that gen identify.
Speaker 1: Fly trinity of skin care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cleanser, moisturizer, and sunscreen. So we've got these linked
Speaker 3: on what type of cleanser, what type of moisturizer, what
Speaker 3: type of sunscreen might be best for your specific skin type?
Speaker 1: So did you know there are eight types of cleansers?
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I did not know this. I thought it was so
Speaker 1: I have oily skin. What kind of skin do you have?
Speaker 3: Normal? I've been told I have a very typical If anything,
Speaker 3: I might err on the side of dry, but mostly
Speaker 3: just right in the middle.
Speaker 1: So there are different So there are gel cleansers, cream cleansers, oil, foam,
Speaker 1: clay powder, my cellar, missile, I'm not sure it's French,
Speaker 1: and bar cleansers. And so I anticipate that each of these,
Speaker 1: even underneath has different for oily combination dry. So definitely
Speaker 1: check out this article because we're not going to go
Speaker 1: through what each one is. But it would be like
Speaker 1: if you have a lot of cleansers at home, because
Speaker 1: and you hear and you hear all these like dermatologists
Speaker 1: on TikTok and instagramm or maybe not dermatologists, maybe just
Speaker 1: girls go into Sephora buying skincare products. Like they're all
Speaker 1: talking about these different like miracle cleansers that they love,
Speaker 1: but it may not be a fit for you, Like
Speaker 1: it may not be a fit for your skincare type,
Speaker 1: and you may be able to find a cleanser that
Speaker 1: you love better. I think mine, Oh, we're going to
Speaker 1: go through our skincare is later, but like I've tried
Speaker 1: a lot of these not knowing there was a difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and again with moisturizers as well as sunscreen,
Speaker 3: there are different recommendations for different types of skin and
Speaker 3: even different ages and what you're looking for out of
Speaker 3: your moisturizers. So there are different benefits that moisturizers can provide,
Speaker 3: like hydration, protection from the sun, brightening, anti aging. So
Speaker 3: depending on where you're at in life, you might have
Speaker 3: different values on what you're and type of skin you
Speaker 3: have on what your moisturizer is going to be doing
Speaker 3: for you. So I would say it's worth putting some
Speaker 3: research into this. I know that that's one of the
Speaker 3: things that can be overwhelming, and that's why we end
Speaker 3: up buying all these products and have this collection of
Speaker 3: clutter in our drawers and cabinets. But if you could
Speaker 3: just look at a couple of articles on cleansers, moisturizers
Speaker 3: and sunscreens and pick what's right for you and stick
Speaker 3: to that, and I would say give it at least
Speaker 3: a month before you really decide does this product work
Speaker 3: for me? Does it not? Because it does take our
Speaker 3: skin sometime to respond to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of different types of cleansers,
Speaker 1: but not as much for moisturizers and sunscreens. So they're
Speaker 1: saying there's only three type of moisturizers, emollients, heemectints, and exclusives,
Speaker 1: and there's one of each for each of the skin types.
Speaker 1: So moisturizer are much easier to figure out. And then
Speaker 1: for sunscreen, I think they were just saying there's two
Speaker 1: types so you can decide. And this also choosing what
Speaker 1: kind you want will also help you if you want
Speaker 1: to combine any So that brings me to my next
Speaker 1: how to is to choose multi purpose products. So I
Speaker 1: personally I have a combination Pizza Hunt and Taco Bell.
Speaker 1: I can't say combination with us. I have a combination moisturizer, sunscreen,
Speaker 1: and like foundation, it's my dream product. It costs forty
Speaker 1: five bucks, but it's a good quality. I think it's
Speaker 1: from smash.
Speaker 4: Box and.
Speaker 1: I love it. So the people at Alta or Sephora
Speaker 1: can kind of also lead you to the right if
Speaker 1: you know the words. If you're like, I know I
Speaker 1: need a GELM cleanser or I want an emollient, they
Speaker 1: can lead you to where that is. You don't have
Speaker 1: to show up to Target and be like I need
Speaker 1: an emollient, like what he where? How? What? But you
Speaker 1: could also if you do want to buy from the
Speaker 1: drug store, you can't just google like best emolient, moisturizer,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, so you can find it there. But
Speaker 1: if you're looking to buy maybe higher quality products that
Speaker 1: are not necessarily you know, Target quality, then you can
Speaker 1: just like run into a Sephora or Alta and say
Speaker 1: the words and they should know what you mean. But
Speaker 1: you can buy a lot of you know, multi multi
Speaker 1: purpose things. So I have at night just like a
Speaker 1: regular moisturizer, but then in the day I have a
Speaker 1: moisturizer and sunscreen, and then if I'm going out seeing people,
Speaker 1: I have the expensive moisturizer, sunscreen foundations. So I have
Speaker 1: a couple offs just because you have always.
Speaker 3: Like a three step, but a three step for different
Speaker 3: points of the Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like I don't just have three products, right, but
Speaker 1: at any time I'm only using two to three.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll talk about that later. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: there are a lot of options if you're going for
Speaker 1: the combination route. Do you have combination products.
Speaker 3: Jill, Yes, yes I do. The foundation that I use
Speaker 3: is like a lightweight, like, yeah, what you're saying, like
Speaker 3: moisturizer and sunscreen. It has the zinc oxide in it,
Speaker 3: which is a more natural SPF forty five, which I
Speaker 3: know a lot of people turn their nose up at
Speaker 3: makeup that has SPF in it, like it's not enough
Speaker 3: because usually you're talking more like fifteen to twenty SPF.
Speaker 1: But forty five on the face, yes, dirty is the
Speaker 1: recommendation for a sunscreen. Yeah, they say you should have
Speaker 1: a thirty SPF on your face, So if your makeup
Speaker 1: has less than that, you'll want to be adding a
Speaker 1: sunscreen on top of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and a cleanser that can also act as
Speaker 3: a makeup remover. I think also just makeup that is
Speaker 3: easily removed, or depending on what kind of mascarra you use,
Speaker 3: sometimes you need specific remover for mascara, and so I've
Speaker 3: just simplified by doing mascara that doesn't require mascara remove. Wow. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think like your waterproof mascaras can be really hard
Speaker 3: to get off with just a regular cleanser.
Speaker 1: Okay. They're also saying, if you are somebody who's committed
Speaker 1: to like vitamin C or other antioxidants, instead of buying
Speaker 1: an additional serum, that you can look for products with
Speaker 1: active in those as active ingredients. Those are in there too,
Speaker 1: but those specific things aren't required.
Speaker 3: Speaking of simplifying, also simplifying the steps, which is what
Speaker 3: we're talking about here. In this specific article, they're describing
Speaker 3: cleansing using a toner, moisturizing, and applying sun protection. So
Speaker 3: they're adding in that extra step of a toner. But
Speaker 3: decide what works for you. If you can really simplify
Speaker 3: it down to just three steps, that'd be great. Cleanse, moisturize,
Speaker 3: skin protect and at night, really could just be cleanse
Speaker 3: and moisturize, potentially with any other additional pieces you want
Speaker 3: to add in, whether an under I cream is important
Speaker 3: to you, or a specific type of serum is important,
Speaker 3: or a retinol, you decide what you want that to be.
Speaker 3: But know that you can get a really good, high quality,
Speaker 3: simplified routine in just three steps. You don't have to
Speaker 3: listen to all the noise of people telling you it
Speaker 3: needs to be twelve steps and thirty two products.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that takes me. That does take a long
Speaker 1: time because you need to wait between thirty to sixty
Speaker 1: seconds between each step for each product to fully absorb.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if you have, if you have a twelve step
Speaker 1: process that is taking you no less than fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: to do, and.
Speaker 3: Some people love that. Like, if that if you know
Speaker 3: that this is the routine that works for you and
Speaker 3: it's not prohibitive to you caring for your skin and
Speaker 3: that's just a nice routine at night.
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But if you think that's what you have to do
Speaker 3: in order to you're probably care of your episode.
Speaker 1: If that is you, you don't want a minimalist skincare routine,
Speaker 1: and that's great, that's great. Don't force this episode on
Speaker 1: your friend who has a twelve step process that they love.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like, if you have just three products and
Speaker 1: you're waiting a minute between each. I will brush my teeth.
Speaker 1: That's that's my like sixty seconds, I'll you know, cleanse,
Speaker 1: brush teeth, put you will actually cleanse, and then put
Speaker 1: on retinal. That's my at night instead of sunscreen, I
Speaker 1: use retinal. I'm thirty five. I just started using retinal
Speaker 1: because retinal less expensive than botox. I'm saving money.
Speaker 3: We love a good hack.
Speaker 1: There's your money. Say, if you take nothing else from
Speaker 1: the episode, choose a retinal instead of botox. There you go.
Speaker 3: So I'll do not get the same results, but.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be similar something you're gonna say. If you
Speaker 1: value your money over your fine lines, then this may
Speaker 1: be the way.
Speaker 3: To go for you.
Speaker 1: You so cleansing and then retinal, and then I'll brush
Speaker 1: my teeth after that that's been a minute, and then moisturizer.
Speaker 1: So usually that's all I need to do. If I
Speaker 1: have something special, then then I'll go like wrangle one
Speaker 1: of my children for doing something. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm wrangling them for, but something. Usually the baby's already
Speaker 1: asleep when I do my skincare routine, and it's just
Speaker 1: usually making sure that KAI is putting on his pajamas
Speaker 1: because he usually like he stops midway through that process
Speaker 1: and that's troublesome for me. So yeah, and that'll take
Speaker 1: a minute, and then I'll get back and I'll do
Speaker 1: the last step.
Speaker 3: There you go wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then this leads into perfectly into the last
Speaker 1: part of how to it's to stick to your routine
Speaker 1: and adjust as needed. So a lot of these products,
Speaker 1: it's going to take a few months for you to
Speaker 1: see any difference, if you see anything at all. If
Speaker 1: it's preventative, then you hopefully won't see a difference. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you'll just stay the way you are for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life and have the skin of a five
Speaker 1: year old when you're eighty. That's what I'm going for.
Speaker 1: But you definitely want to stick to a consistent routine because,
Speaker 1: like they said on the retinal bottle, you got to
Speaker 1: use it every day. And I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a marketing thing that they're saying, like you have to
Speaker 1: use it every day and keep buying more, but all
Speaker 1: of the internet is also saying you have to use
Speaker 1: it every day. Uh, and then after a period of time,
Speaker 1: like a couple months, then you can't adjust. So This
Speaker 1: is perfect. When you buy a product, use it in
Speaker 1: its entirety before you you figure, like before you decide
Speaker 1: to stop using it or use something else. Don't use
Speaker 1: it halfway because it probably hasn't.
Speaker 3: Unless it's causing you irritation or you notice there's a
Speaker 3: bad reaction, right.
Speaker 1: If you are, if it's doing something bad your skin,
Speaker 1: stop using immediately. But if it's just kind of like
Speaker 1: a I don't know if this is doing anything, maybe
Speaker 1: I should like buy something else. Stop and just remember
Speaker 1: the reasons you bought it in the first place. Know
Speaker 1: that it takes a few months. Use what you have,
Speaker 1: and don't go out and buy something different right now
Speaker 1: because of this episode. If you already have stuff at home,
Speaker 1: like maybe you've got a gel cleanser and you want
Speaker 1: to try a powder cleanser. If the geil cleansers do
Speaker 1: an okay for you, use it up and then when
Speaker 1: you're buying something new, then you can get something different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even keep a log of how did this
Speaker 3: one work? What do I think? Because we often forget
Speaker 3: how how what was my reaction to that gel cleanser?
Speaker 3: What did I think about it? I don't know it
Speaker 3: was months ago.
Speaker 1: Like get a note in your phone or use notion
Speaker 1: to you know all of any makeup. This is especially
Speaker 1: important for makeup. When you're buying makeup and seeing like
Speaker 1: what shades worked best on you, what ones didn't. All
Speaker 1: that you can just tack on your skincare notes right
Speaker 1: underneath your makeup notes. That way when you're going to restock.
Speaker 1: I realize that I restock on makeup once a year.
Speaker 1: That's how I I'm not a big makeup skincare person.
Speaker 1: That's not like an impulse spending thing for me, but
Speaker 1: I do want to buy it, and so I have
Speaker 1: given myself one time a year I will buy everything
Speaker 1: fresh and makeup girlies are yelling at me because they're like,
Speaker 1: you need to change your mass care every two weeks.
Speaker 1: I have never had an issue by doing this, but
Speaker 1: I'll rebuy everything once a year. I'll give myself permission
Speaker 1: to get another like lipstick, try something. I can try anything,
Speaker 1: but I only try it that one trip per year.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of forces me to try new
Speaker 1: things because otherwise I wouldn't. And getting our colors done
Speaker 1: definitely help me get a little bit more adventurous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the only thing I get adventurous with is lip
Speaker 1: color and they don't want to get too adventurous with that.
Speaker 1: So the same can be with with skincare too. If
Speaker 1: you are neglecting having a skincare routine because maybe you're
Speaker 1: a little nervous about it, you don't think you need it,
Speaker 1: Like maybe give your self permission once a year to
Speaker 1: do this thing guilt free because it is so good.
Speaker 3: I think that's another cost effective thing, like having someone
Speaker 3: do an analysis on you of yeah, your colors or
Speaker 3: your skin type. I honestly even think that, like all
Speaker 3: tons of for they can do like at least the
Speaker 3: skin type piece and recommend some things that are going
Speaker 3: to be good for you specifically, because again we sometimes
Speaker 3: just buy stuff throwing spaghetti at the wall, see and
Speaker 3: is this going to work for me? Thinking that's the
Speaker 3: less costly option, when in reality we just keep buying
Speaker 3: and buying and buying. So between really understanding what your
Speaker 3: needs are, what's going to work for you, and then
Speaker 3: only buying those things, prioritizing the essentials checking out just
Speaker 3: some highly rated drug store brands too, Like, there are
Speaker 3: ways to still save while having a good routine. And
Speaker 3: like we said, the multipurpose products, embracing natural ingredients as
Speaker 3: much as possible. And I'll talk a little bit and
Speaker 3: a little bit about how to maybe find products that
Speaker 3: are a little bit more like sustainable or eco friendly.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of different options out there. But
Speaker 3: hopefully the takeaway can be keep it simple. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't have to have all the options exactly, but.
Speaker 1: You do have all the options.
Speaker 3: You know, the option that I always want to have.
Speaker 1: Though this is a minimalist part, like there's just one
Speaker 1: thing after every article, like segment this is it. That's
Speaker 1: all you need.
Speaker 3: The bell of the week.
Speaker 5: That's right, it's time for the best minute of your
Speaker 5: entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name
Speaker 5: is William. Maybe you've paid off your mortgage. Maybe your
Speaker 5: car died and you're happy to not have to pay
Speaker 5: that bill anymore. That's bills, Buffalo bills, Bill Clinton, this
Speaker 5: is the bill of the week.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, my name is Susan from Salt Lake City,
Speaker 4: and my bill of the week is that I just
Speaker 4: spent twenty five dollars seventy four cents on a new
Speaker 4: eyeliner from Sophora. Why this is exciting is that all
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four, my husband and I have decided
Speaker 4: to make a no spend year with some exceptions, some
Speaker 4: parameters in place, but we're trying to pay off a
Speaker 4: nagging debt that we have a home equity credit line,
Speaker 4: and so we've decided to just cut back on any
Speaker 4: discretionary spending we can to have the payoff of this
Speaker 4: a goal by the end of the year. So the
Speaker 4: rule is with cosmetics and toilet trees, I cannot buy
Speaker 4: new things until old ones are used up. And at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the year, I went through and collected
Speaker 4: all the little trial size, sample size items that I
Speaker 4: have mini mas scerras and a sample I cream and
Speaker 4: little bars of soap from an old admin calendar, and
Speaker 4: I corralled them all and I'm using them up rather
Speaker 4: than using the supply I already had in my shower
Speaker 4: in my makeup case, and so far by using all
Speaker 4: that stuff, an eyeliner is the first thing that I've
Speaker 4: had to spend money on. So I would encourage any
Speaker 4: listeners who can to round up all that stuff or
Speaker 4: get donated if you're not going to use it yourself,
Speaker 4: but save yourself some money, save it from just being
Speaker 4: tossed in a landfilled down the road if it's not used,
Speaker 4: try to make the best.
Speaker 3: Nice yes perfect.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Goldie saved this for this episode
Speaker 1: or if it just happened to be on this one,
Speaker 1: but yes, I love doing that. I just got a
Speaker 1: gift my birthday freebie from Ulta is a little leaving conditioner.
Speaker 1: So I do need that for traveling, and so it
Speaker 1: saved me from having to buy one.
Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, I love the samples for the travel pieces.
Speaker 3: It saves me from buying really marked up travel size
Speaker 3: stuff that is such a waste in my estimation, this
Speaker 3: is really exciting, Susan. I hope that you are able
Speaker 3: to pay off that debt soon. Feel free to give
Speaker 3: us a callback whenever you do. We'd love to celebrate
Speaker 3: with you if you all are listening and you have
Speaker 3: a bill to share with us, whether it's about decluttering,
Speaker 3: using stuff up, putting little games around, debt payoff, or
Speaker 3: your name is Bill forrgal friendspodcast dot com slash Bill,
Speaker 3: Leave you Bill, and now it's time for plady around,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help myself in talking about my skin type
Speaker 1: and my skincare routine. Throughout this, but I think we
Speaker 1: can get a little bit more granular in the lightning
Speaker 1: round about our skin and our skincare routine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lay it on us, Jen, what you do, what
Speaker 3: you got.
Speaker 1: So I do have oily skin.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It's kind of normal on my cheeks, but very oily
Speaker 1: in my t zone. So I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: combination or oily. I don't know. I've I've never officially
Speaker 1: been diagnosed.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, you know yourself best, so, but I
Speaker 3: just know.
Speaker 1: That I use oil free everything. Like nothing on my
Speaker 1: face has oil in it because it will just the
Speaker 1: foundations will get cakey. Even the smash Box one isn't perfect.
Speaker 1: But using a moisturizer does help with how oily my
Speaker 1: skin gets. So that's another another way. Knowing your skin
Speaker 1: type and using the right products helps save money on
Speaker 1: makeup because it's less reapplying if you're using if you're
Speaker 1: not getting his oily and having to like reapply your makeup,
Speaker 1: just that's a that's a bonus. But so I have
Speaker 1: been I use mostly Sarah v Sarave, you know Michael
Speaker 1: Sarah's skincare.
Speaker 3: That is such an amazing not marketing.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ad was so good. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: the sarave like company of skincare just hired Michael sarah
Speaker 1: to I like say that it was his skincare line.
Speaker 1: But so that's pretty much what I use because it's affordable.
Speaker 1: Every single dermatologist on TikTok loves it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: if they love it, I love it because that's because
Speaker 1: they have the best say. They say what's best. So
Speaker 1: I'll use in the morning their combination moisturizer sunscreen. The
Speaker 1: sunscreen is thirty SPF. It's thick like a sunscreen too,
Speaker 1: write so I use their moisturizer without SPF at night
Speaker 1: and that's very thin and light. But I really have
Speaker 1: to work it in in the morning, so just be aware,
Speaker 1: like it's if you don't really rub it in, it's
Speaker 1: gonna leave like a white film on your face. So
Speaker 1: I just use it very lightly, like one pump on
Speaker 1: my face in there and we're good. And then I'll
Speaker 1: use the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell moisturizer foundation
Speaker 1: that screenza My hopes the song still exists. The song
Speaker 1: lives in perpetuity on the Internet. And if you don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, you can search for it.
Speaker 1: So that is the morning if I use the smash
Speaker 1: Box combo, I don't typically use the Survey one, and
Speaker 1: then I'll do my makeup as normal, and then at
Speaker 1: night I will use a collection of products. Usually that's
Speaker 1: when I'm using the samples. So it's said on the
Speaker 1: internet to work up your retinal usage, So start every
Speaker 1: other day and then work up to once a day
Speaker 1: and then maybe even twice a day. But retinal it
Speaker 1: makes your skin more sensitive to the sun. So if
Speaker 1: you're going to use it, use it at night almost exclusively,
Speaker 1: unless you really I don't know why you'd need to
Speaker 1: use it in the morning, but unless you really need
Speaker 1: to use a lot of it, like by all means
Speaker 1: retinal yourself. But I use it just at night, and
Speaker 1: right now I'm currently I just started with my thirty
Speaker 1: fifth birthday, so I'm using it like every other night,
Speaker 1: and so every other night I'll use one of the
Speaker 1: like skincare gifts that I've been gifted recently, the samples,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is what I'll do, and then when
Speaker 1: I run out of those, I'll just use the retinal
Speaker 1: every night and that is it.
Speaker 3: That is all That's that's all she wrote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't use so they were talking about in
Speaker 1: this article that we didn't go over, like serums. I
Speaker 1: don't use any serums unless retinyl is a serum.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it could be depending on what kind
Speaker 3: of retinal you get.
Speaker 1: The Sarah Retina use that one because I also looked
Speaker 1: for the best retina and that one was on there
Speaker 1: and it was like dermatologists love it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I love it too. Apparently it's also a good starter
Speaker 1: retinal because retinals come in different potencies, right, so as
Speaker 1: a starter, I thought, this is this will be good.
Speaker 3: Just a sarab a Gurly.
Speaker 1: I am a Sarah a Gurly.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just I don't know. I I yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: I am for you, not because of their advertising or
Speaker 1: maybe they are paying dermatologists to say this. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's for me. So but but yeah, So that
Speaker 1: and exfoliance sometimes people I'm seeing exfoliance on these lists,
Speaker 1: but that's debatable. So serums and exfoliance sometimes are on
Speaker 1: the minimalist skincare routine list, but not every but the
Speaker 1: three that are on every are the cleanser moisturizers, and
Speaker 1: in that order, always cleanser first, moisture, you go, you go,
Speaker 1: in order of heaviness. So when I'm doing the retinal,
Speaker 1: I'll do cleanser, retinal moisturizer. But in the morning it's cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen.
Speaker 3: Heaviest first, lightest last.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, lightest first, heaviest last, because sunscreen is
Speaker 1: heavier than moisturizer. Yeah, but retinal is lighter.
Speaker 3: Than the moistures. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Lightest first, heaviest last, and waiting that thirty to sixty
Speaker 1: seconds between each layer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, there you go. Wow. Okay, So I have
Speaker 3: what I believe to be normal skin, but airing on
Speaker 3: the side of dry, if anything dry, which I have
Speaker 3: learned that dryness can also lead to some breakouts. Both
Speaker 3: oily skin and dry skin can suffer from that. So
Speaker 3: that's one of the things I have to kind of
Speaker 3: keep in mind as I've gotten even like into adulthood.
Speaker 3: But I have noticed things beyond skincare can lead to
Speaker 3: blemishes in the skin. And I remember when we did
Speaker 3: the pole for this episode, people responded back citing their
Speaker 3: diet a lot too related to how they care for
Speaker 3: their skin, and this is going to be different from everybody,
Speaker 3: But for myself, I notice that my skin does not
Speaker 3: have a great reaction to sugar, So thankfully I like
Speaker 3: salt and savory things far more than sugar, so it's
Speaker 3: just not something that I typically enjoy anyways. And then
Speaker 3: there's this added piece of if I do eat more
Speaker 3: sugar than typical, I will notice it in my skin.
Speaker 3: So that's also something to be paying attention to. Is
Speaker 3: how your body's responding to the time of month, that
Speaker 3: it is, what you're eating, your stress levels, all three
Speaker 3: of those things. That's a whole other trinity that plays
Speaker 3: into what my skin can look like. But my routine
Speaker 3: at this point, and I began this maybe around like
Speaker 3: thirty two, when I started to realize that my routine
Speaker 3: from eighteen years old should probably shift like that was
Speaker 3: what was I was still doing. It was using some
Speaker 3: sort of cleanser that has been on the shelves of
Speaker 3: drug store since I was a teenager, and just still
Speaker 3: doing that thing, but starting to care a little more
Speaker 3: about how do I make my skin and body last
Speaker 3: for as long as I can. So I came across
Speaker 3: this company called Dime not sponsored but do love them,
Speaker 3: and they've got a variety of different products, but you
Speaker 3: can kind of buy like an entire system, And I
Speaker 3: appreciate it for the fact that I don't feel like
Speaker 3: I have to shop around a bunch of different brands
Speaker 3: to find one cleanser or one moisturizer or one tone
Speaker 3: or like. They kind of have everything that you need
Speaker 3: so I don't have to That was prohibitive to me,
Speaker 3: Like I want a good skincare routine, but I don't
Speaker 3: want to have to get my cleanser from here, and
Speaker 3: my moisturizer from there, and my sunscreen from over here.
Speaker 3: I just wanted a one stop shop. Plus for me,
Speaker 3: something that's really important is utilizing natural ingredients and sustainable
Speaker 3: business practices. I like to use the EWG app. It's
Speaker 3: EWG Healthy Living. Many of you might be familiar with this.
Speaker 3: It's something where you can check out both like skincare,
Speaker 3: hair care, cleaning products on their app. They've got really
Speaker 3: high standards, highest standards for health and transparency related to
Speaker 3: chemicals of concern and just kind of being overall ethically
Speaker 3: sourced all of that. So Dime has really great ratings
Speaker 3: on the AWNG app. So when you're talking like affordability
Speaker 3: but quality. This has been that radical middle for me.
Speaker 3: But it includes cleanser, moisturizer, toner, and serums. And then
Speaker 3: occasionally I will add in like a mask that is separate.
Speaker 3: I use the like Aztec clay mask.
Speaker 1: I've never used to clay masks before, but I, for
Speaker 1: the first time ever used one of those face masks
Speaker 1: that come in the sheet. Yes, uh huh. And it
Speaker 1: was like, you have to keep it on for fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty minutes, right, yeah, And Travis comes into the
Speaker 1: bathroom like, don't look at me, and if you do
Speaker 1: look at me, don't say anything. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever. I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: do this again. I scare me like I'm not gonna suck.
Speaker 1: I can't show that. I can't look at my children,
Speaker 1: I can't look at my husband.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't vulnerable thing to walk around with
Speaker 3: the mask eye, and particularly the clay mask really like
Speaker 3: makes your skin feel really tight as it's happening, but afterwards,
Speaker 3: my skin feels so soft, and I think it is
Speaker 3: a nice exfoliant. I know we've been focusing primarily on
Speaker 3: our face skin. We didn't totally specify that. Obviously, our
Speaker 3: skin is our entire body, not that and there's not
Speaker 3: too much that we're doing with our whole body, although
Speaker 3: we should put sunscreen on all of it if we're
Speaker 3: out in the sun. But something I'm noticing lately is
Speaker 3: how important exfoliating all of the body is. Like we
Speaker 3: wash our faces every day, but we're not always like
Speaker 3: using some sort of gentle scrub on the rest of
Speaker 3: our bodies. But that can be a really good practice
Speaker 3: for kind of rejuvenating your skin cells. Yeah, my legs, yeah,
Speaker 3: feet exactly. And then yeah, if you want getting a
Speaker 3: good moisturizer for the rest of your body too, I
Speaker 3: think that's important. I think that's one of the things
Speaker 3: we kind of push aside. We might or we might
Speaker 3: get some cheap and I mean that in the true
Speaker 3: sense of the word moisturizer. But like you said, Jenn
Speaker 3: at the beginning, our skin is our biggest organ and
Speaker 3: so I think as much as we need to be
Speaker 3: concerned about what we're putting on our face, we should
Speaker 3: be concerned about the lotions we're putting on our whole
Speaker 3: body is getting absorbed into our entire system through the skin.
Speaker 3: So be a little bit judicious about it.
Speaker 1: I was really inspired by our interview with The Low
Speaker 1: Tox Life about the things that I'm putting in my body,
Speaker 1: especially the sense around the artificial sense around me, and
Speaker 1: to just to move toward a body wash that's more natural.
Speaker 1: I'm not super crunchy, but I know the things that
Speaker 1: are directly going into my lungs and into my skin
Speaker 1: and into my stule, like my body, those are the
Speaker 1: things I want to be the most cautious about as
Speaker 1: far as like what is in them? Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening, guys. I hope that
Speaker 1: this helped you kind of discern how you want to
Speaker 1: either start, amend, reduce, you know whatever to your skincare routine.
Speaker 1: I hope it saves you money, and I hope it
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Speaker 3: Jen Jill. I went to Sephora for the very first time.
Speaker 1: You went to Tampa.
Speaker 3: I was already in Tampa. Okay, so neither.
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't get a birthday Ruby from Sepphora
Speaker 1: because I did not want to drive to Tampa.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I did not know that we didn't have
Speaker 3: one in Saint Pete. Just learning that now, Okay. I
Speaker 3: went there to get lipstick for our photo shoot for
Speaker 3: our author bios.
Speaker 1: Author headshots and bios. The picture is the head shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did I say, author bios? No, gosh, we
Speaker 3: were just hiding. Also author headshots. Man, I can't think
Speaker 3: or talk. Nope, and I didn't want to make the
Speaker 3: mistake of just buying a lipstick that looks good on
Speaker 3: the shelf. I needed to try it on. And those
Speaker 3: are the types of places that will allow you to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 3: But again, like I said, this is the first time
Speaker 3: I'd ever been. I've been to it Alta once before.
Speaker 3: But I get the stress sweats. The place dresses me out. Really,
Speaker 3: I realize, I don't know, Jenna, just it feels so
Speaker 3: complicated to me.
Speaker 1: There are so many products for something so niche as body.
Speaker 3: It just feels, yeah, it feels like it's right in
Speaker 3: my face. How much I don't know about that world,
Speaker 3: and it just feels so overwhelming to me. But then
Speaker 3: also the way that they have the store set up.
Speaker 3: It's by brand, Yeah, so everywhere has everything and that,
Speaker 3: which I guess it's like a drug store too, it's
Speaker 3: arranged by brand, but there's just so much more of it.
Speaker 3: It's like going into a Sam's Club when you're used
Speaker 3: to an Aldi or something. It just is so much
Speaker 3: and then someone comes to help you, and that's great,
Speaker 3: but then they're like putting mirrors in your faces and
Speaker 3: there's fluorescent lighting and I'm just not used to looking
Speaker 3: at myself that much, and somebody else looking at me
Speaker 3: and like trying to determine what to put on me,
Speaker 3: and I just like I was sweating. I was stressed,
Speaker 3: the type of you know how like stress. Their sweat
Speaker 3: is different like when you exercise versus when you're stressed.
Speaker 1: Yes, one smells, he was.
Speaker 3: It was the second exactly. One's very normal and the
Speaker 3: other one feels thick. Yeah, oh man, I just it
Speaker 3: was not not for me.
Speaker 1: So sorry.
Speaker 3: Poor Eric was with me. He's color blind.
Speaker 1: So he is literally he is color he can.
Speaker 3: Still see like some colors, just like certain colors don't
Speaker 3: show up for him, so he's he's not necessarily someone
Speaker 3: who can give super accurate feedback on like color paletting.
Speaker 3: But then so then I'm just like I've tried on.
Speaker 3: Oh my, I looked like a toddler playing in their
Speaker 3: mother's makeup drawer by the time, because I had put
Speaker 3: so much lipstick on my face but then had to
Speaker 3: keep rubbing it off. But then of course they didn't
Speaker 3: have all the different supplies to be able to remove
Speaker 3: and reapply it like they had, you know, eye eyelash,
Speaker 3: not eyelash eyebrow applicators that I'm trying to use to
Speaker 3: put lipstick on me, and it just was like my
Speaker 3: limbs were red outside of my lips and it just
Speaker 3: was not great. But I was stressfully, we're getting these pictures.
Speaker 1: We had very little time to coordinate a photo shoot
Speaker 1: and then get that shoot done. Yeah, and both of
Speaker 1: us were unprepared for how quickly these things would come up,
Speaker 1: like author headshots, author bio catalog copy which I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that's what it was called. It's just what
Speaker 1: you read when you go to the Amazon page for
Speaker 1: the book.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if it convinces you whether or
Speaker 3: not to buy the book, but very it needs to
Speaker 3: be written this cover, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought I had a day between writing the book
Speaker 1: and having that stuff come out, but it is negative
Speaker 1: days that we had. I was like, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: trying to finish this my culmination of my life's work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need the time, and we just can't stick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, I'm so sorry. I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like Anne Hathaway and Princess Diaries. When I go into
Speaker 1: those places, I feel like everybody is just looking at
Speaker 1: me and they're like, oh my gosh, poor princess of Genovia.
Speaker 1: You need us come here, and I'm like, yes, I am,
Speaker 1: I am the pre am.
Speaker 3: And then you've got these these people walking around with
Speaker 3: big old baskets, hell head high with confidence, no one
Speaker 3: exactly what they want to put in that.
Speaker 1: Basket or not really what is that? What is that
Speaker 1: thing do?
Speaker 3: I didn't even know that was a part of your
Speaker 3: face that you needed to care about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am authentically and Hathaway premaking. If you see
Speaker 1: my hair, you just if you like compare us, You're like, yes,
Speaker 1: actually you are. And I feel like so absorbed into
Speaker 1: the fold of like eventually they're going to bring out
Speaker 1: two pictures of me that I didn't know they took.
Speaker 1: I couldn't release my face and I'm going to be
Speaker 1: beautiful one day.
Speaker 3: I do think that you're beautiful, but I can commiserate.
Speaker 3: It's a whole other land and world and I need guy,
Speaker 3: I need guidance in it.