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Speaker 4: Monday morning, after a long holiday weekend. I got it first.

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Speaker 3: After a long week. I don't know why we can't

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Speaker 3: just be happy for Deshaun Watson. Why do you have

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Speaker 3: to be so negative about the whole thing. The guy

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Speaker 3: got married. Congratulations with Deshaun Watson. He's got a one

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Speaker 3: point three million dollar ring he does yeah, or she

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Speaker 3: does says his his band is worth up to one

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Speaker 3: point three million. Oh, some people have had that saying

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Speaker 3: you can't have money. Let me ask you that. Why

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Speaker 3: why is it worded that way? Worth up to one

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Speaker 3: point three million? Because it's only worth what somebody's willing

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Speaker 3: to spend, right could it? Could?

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Speaker 4: It could a praise for that amount? What is there

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Speaker 4: incentives in it? Like, well, if you meet all these incentives,

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Speaker 4: it'll be worth one point three million?

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Speaker 3: Like what like don't go to the grab lab? Can

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Speaker 3: it be worth one point three You can't clean it

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Speaker 3: with a towel that keeps the vaalua. That's that's the incentive.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't clean it with a street tal is tal

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Speaker 3: is cleaner. That's a great point, all right.

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Speaker 4: So with that being said, speaking speaking of Ohio, okay,

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Speaker 4: Lebron James was hanging out at the Calves Practice facility

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Speaker 4: and there was a there was a picture that went

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Speaker 4: out of him there and some people started to speculate, oh,

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Speaker 4: is he going back home? Is he going back to Cleveland?

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Speaker 4: This and that and he basically were spawned on social

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Speaker 4: media with something along the lines of I live here,

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Speaker 4: I practice here, every off season. There's nothing different about this.

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Speaker 4: You practice at the Cavaliers. Yeah, works out there all

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Speaker 4: the time. He works out there constantly because he lives

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Speaker 4: I don't think so he does it every year, and

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Speaker 4: he's that's not strange every year not. I mean whatever,

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Speaker 4: he's working out there. It's their practice that's strange.

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Speaker 3: Yes to me, I don't know, all right, but there's

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Speaker 3: one hundred different places you could go work out other

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Speaker 3: than another team in the National Basketball Association, So that

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Speaker 3: doesn't come across this strain. Well, he's.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But his point was, I'm here every off season.

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Speaker 3: Are you all that bored? Go get another plate of food? Okay?

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Speaker 3: But is every off season like this for Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: That's the question Lebron has to ask himself, and that's

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Speaker 3: the question that needs to be asked and answered. Does

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Speaker 3: it does because of the uncertainties of what's going to

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Speaker 3: for him to land, he's there working out. That's strange.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but that's strange, like if he was working

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Speaker 3: He can he can he can lead it. He can

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Speaker 3: that's weird. I don't know how you don't see it

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Speaker 3: is weird. He does it every officious and there's nothing

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Speaker 3: But if he does it this mean it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: get another plate of food, and I'm here every off season.

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Speaker 4: I think he likes to stir it up. He probably

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Speaker 4: and the end is near, what is there? Like he

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Speaker 4: really is the lifeblood of topics and discussion in the

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Speaker 3: He's great at it.

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Speaker 4: And if this is all winding down and he's out

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Speaker 4: not as bad as everybody thinks it is. And you know,

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Speaker 4: separation between the NFL and the NBA. You better start

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Speaker 4: stirring up some other storylines or stirring up some other stars.

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Speaker 3: In the league.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, this isn't a face of the NBA,

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Speaker 4: It's a life of the NBA. And without Lebron James,

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Speaker 4: it feels like the NBA is on life support when

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Speaker 4: it comes to interest, intrigue and talking point.

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Speaker 3: What else. Is there talent? Let's say there's talent. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I think there are personalities within the NBA

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Speaker 3: away It's really taken away the ability. It's desensitized fans.

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Speaker 3: It's desensitized fans, and for what it's worth, I think

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Speaker 3: it has desensitized athletes as well. How do you build

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Speaker 3: But in basketball, it's such a personality driven sport that

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Speaker 3: when you see the guys like Shaquille O'Neil, you see

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Speaker 3: for another team, the exchanging of jerseys which happens in football.

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Speaker 3: But I just feel like it's weird how cool guys

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Speaker 3: and I don't think that the relevance of like the

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this before to where the NFL has

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Speaker 4: need a superstar, we need big markets happy to drive.

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Speaker 4: And in the NFL, Patrick Mahomes plays in Kansas City

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Speaker 4: it's not like Patrick Mahomes has got this you know,

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Speaker 3: Like it's just it's became more relevant than football. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but football's not determined on one player, like the

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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to what you mentioned earlier

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Speaker 3: is the relevance of the franchises. Like Green Bay is

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Speaker 3: the relevance of the franchise drives it. Right. The people

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Speaker 3: They create a very very nice size, captive audience. You

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Speaker 3: and it's because of the brands of those franchises. You

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Speaker 3: try to keep the Dallas Mavericks as strong as you can.

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Speaker 3: You have to try to keep those those anchor teams,

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Speaker 3: the franchises in these different markets. You just had Okay,

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Speaker 3: see when when it all what's the buzz? Well that's

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Speaker 3: what what was the what was the what was the parade?

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Speaker 4: result in them winning a bunch of games and they're

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Speaker 4: going to the postseason, but Gino Smith is an upgrade.

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Speaker 3: You've got Pete Carroll there.

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Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of energy in the building, Tom

433
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Speaker 4: Brady's involvement, spy text, there is the GM. It does

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Speaker 4: at least feel like they're on the path heading in

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Speaker 4: the right direction after a lot of years of what

436
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Speaker 4: are we doing? We're just reacting to the Gruden firing

437
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Speaker 4: and trying to make a bunch of moves that just

438
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Speaker 4: failed miserably. From everybody's info and input into the organization,

439
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Speaker 4: all those moves failed. It didn't work, and now at

440
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Speaker 4: least there on the path hopefully getting back to where

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Speaker 4: they're a respected organization.

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Speaker 3: I mean, keep in mind, they added Asked and genty

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Speaker 3: to the team that got brock Bowers. I mean, they

444
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Speaker 3: got some talent on this team. But it's the AFC West,

445
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Speaker 3: So let's reel in ourselves on getting carried away about

446
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: they have the right direction. Geno Smith is a fine

447
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: quarterback quarterback? Is he is he a bona fide franchise

448
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Speaker 3: guy that can go into the a f C West

449
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Speaker 3: and contend against the likes of Patrick Mahomes uh Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 3: which I mean obviously you know that that goes without

451
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Speaker 3: saying that it could be a he defines himself this year,

452
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Speaker 3: or it could be he could be just a you know,

453
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Speaker 3: a guy that we keep saying should be a franchise

454
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Speaker 3: guy but isn't quite a franchise guy. And and then

455
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Speaker 3: you got Buddy in Denver and Bo knicks Man, and

456
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Speaker 3: I think bow Knicks has the capabilities with Sean Payton

457
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Speaker 3: as his coach, which, by the way, if you bring

458
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Speaker 3: into the coaches, uh, the coaches into the fold, Pete

459
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: Carroll arguably is the odd man out just because of

460
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Speaker 3: how old he is. I mean, trying to re establish it,

461
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Speaker 3: trying to established what you created at his age in

462
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: a new space where things have been so Chotzi turvy

463
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: is very chaotic, and it's probably going to be very

464
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Speaker 3: difficult because then you got Andy Reid over here, who's

465
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Speaker 3: already got his systems in place and it works. It's

466
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Speaker 3: an auto Palotte. You got. You got Harball over here,

467
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Speaker 3: who has proven he is bar none like second to

468
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Speaker 3: nobody in terms of being a dope coach. And I

469
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Speaker 3: look for them to take a tremendous step forward this

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Speaker 3: year with him having a little bit of time under

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Speaker 3: his belt now, and then you have Sean Payton, like

472
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Speaker 3: talk about is there a better Is there a better

473
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Speaker 3: division of coaches in the in the National Football League

474
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Speaker 3: in one singular concentrated place. Probably not. Andy Reid has

475
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Speaker 3: super bowls? Uh, What's what's PA has super Bowls? Uh?

476
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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll's got a Super Bowl. Pete Carroll's got a

477
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Harball has a Super Bowl appearance. So national

478
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Speaker 3: championship and he's a national championship guy. I just you know,

479
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Speaker 3: I think that it sounds good and much like when

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Speaker 3: John Mattin told me my second year in the league

481
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Speaker 3: that he would bungee Cord out of the Goodyear Blimp

482
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Speaker 3: at the fifty yard line for the halftime show if

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Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins at the time, now the Commanders had

484
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Speaker 3: made it to the Super Bowl. I think if John

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Speaker 3: was still living and had an interview with Max Crosby,

486
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Speaker 3: he would most likely respond to Max Crosby the same

487
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Speaker 3: way he responded to me when he asked me, did

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Speaker 3: we have a legitimate chance with our team to be

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Speaker 3: able to make it to the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: Look, in Max's defense, he just said, you know, they're

492
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Speaker 3: trying to win games. They're trying. You know, he's trying

493
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Speaker 3: as much as he can. He was rewarded with the

494
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Speaker 3: contract extension this year. I don't think click. I said

495
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Speaker 3: that they are a factor from a playoff standpoint. But

496
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Speaker 3: don't you feel better about him? No, you don't feel better.

497
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Speaker 3: Should you feel better about it? Because they upgraded a quarterback,

498
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Speaker 3: they've got a coach who's actually got support unlike you,

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Speaker 3: guy Antonio peace. That's what you thought that Antonio Pears

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Speaker 3: had support. I mean it sounded as though they were

501
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: supporting ap to built this team and built the culture,

502
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Speaker 3: and then they went away from him after a year.

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Speaker 3: They've not done anything that's really different from what they've

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Speaker 3: done in the past. They've made splash hires in the past.

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Speaker 3: You don't think Geno Smith's enough created a quarterback? Yes,

506
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Speaker 3: because I didn't have a starting quarterback last year, but

507
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Speaker 3: he I too far off from a backup quarterback that's

508
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Speaker 3: now a starting quarterback. I mean, let's not get carried

509
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Speaker 3: away here. Gino Smith is a fine football player. He's

510
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Speaker 3: not an elite. Do you look at him as one

511
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Speaker 3: of the elite quarterbacks in the league right now? No?

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Speaker 3: Then what are we talking about? Like? What? What? What?

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Speaker 3: That is the wrong team? And though if Geno Smith

514
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Speaker 3: went to a different team and a different division, sure,

515
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Speaker 3: the NFC WES is wide opened, right.

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Speaker 4: So let me just generally speaking, your your feeling about

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Speaker 4: the Raiders. Is it not different this year than it

518
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Speaker 4: has been the past couple? Are they going to finish

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Speaker 4: ahead of the Broncos?

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Speaker 3: Probably not. Then they're going to finish last Yeah, what

521
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Speaker 3: but what sort of feel good about.

522
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Speaker 4: But my point is they're not going to be a factor,

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Speaker 4: but they've at least started in the right card.

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Speaker 3: Are they going to finish ahead of the Chargers? Probably not.

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Speaker 3: Then they're probably going to be last. Yes, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's so last play Listen. Now, I'm not trying to

527
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Speaker 3: sell the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into I don't want to

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Speaker 3: get into the business of being a supporter, of being

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Speaker 3: a great loser, Like you're a better loser than this

532
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: loser team over here. I don't. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: get into that business.

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Speaker 4: Gay, But wouldn't you say six and eleven feels different

535
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Speaker 4: than four and thirteen?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know, you're still but you I mean,

537
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Speaker 3: and there's an energy there. Pete Carroll's got some energy.

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Speaker 3: You've got Pete Carroll like he's Doc Holiday falling off

539
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Speaker 3: a horse. I mean, it's kind of like Doc Holliday. Man,

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna go his bay. He ain't. He ain't

541
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Speaker 3: a lunger, I don't think so great shape, not a lunger.

542
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: He still throws the ball, but he's old. He's got

543
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Speaker 3: that energy. Gino there. Tom Brady's influence in the building.

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Speaker 3: I remember when Joe Gibbs came back and started coaching,

545
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Speaker 3: and it was like the reunion of Cocoon out there

546
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: on the on the football field, man on everything, Like

547
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: you look at what you had Don bro he was using. Yeah, man,

548
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: you had Don Broy was using a walker out there

549
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: on the field. You had one. He had oxygen. He

550
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: had to have an oxygen tank with him. I mean

551
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: there's something about being an old coach bringing back the

552
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Speaker 3: old gang. Like listen, Pete Carroll isn't like that. But

553
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Speaker 3: I mean Gibbs did that and literally Kelly's come on, man, chick.

554
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: Kelly's a brilliant football mind. He made some good moves.

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Speaker 3: I just don't until you see differently from a team

556
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Speaker 3: like the Raiders, There's no way you could definitively say

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Speaker 3: you feel good about a team like that, especially in

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Speaker 3: the division and how competitive that division is. I want

559
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: to make a statement here, and I want this. You

560
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: can f eight this behind the scenes there if you

561
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: want to save this. I'm going to make a statement

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Speaker 3: here right now. The Las Vegas Raiders will be the

563
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Speaker 3: most feel good last place team in the NFL the

564
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Speaker 3: upcoming season of all the last place teams in the

565
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Speaker 3: NFL the upcoming season. We're gonna feel best about the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: That's happening, you think so, I think so, that's how

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00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: that's going down. Once you put that in your pipes

568
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: and smoke it, you think so. Yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 3: determine and we got to go pretty quickly here, but

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Speaker 3: let's determine. What are those last place teams. I'm not

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Speaker 3: ready to go that far into it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying no, I'm just saying right now, the

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Speaker 4: Raiders you're gonna feel good about at the end of

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Speaker 4: the year. Hey, you know what, though, heading in the

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Speaker 4: right direction, there's other teams you look at, you go

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Speaker 4: all they're just terrible. That team stinks. Cleveland Brown's terrible.

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Speaker 4: Will the Jacksonville Jaguars finished last? Not ready to go there?

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Speaker 4: Not ready to go there? Will the Steelers finished the

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Speaker 4: last place? Well, no, because of the Browns. Will the

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Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers finishing the last place?

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Speaker 3: Ah? No? Oh yeah, I think the Saints will. The

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Speaker 3: Saints are terrible. Will the Jets? No, I think the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins will. And that will the Dallas Cowboys or Giants

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Speaker 3: maybe one of those teams.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as high on Washington as everybody is a

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Speaker 4: lot of Washington unless they lose Scary Terry.

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Speaker 3: To Pittsburgh, which if that happens, I'd be crazy. But

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00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: I think you should be high on Washington. You should

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Speaker 3: be They're going to be competitive. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, we've got a whole training camp and

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Speaker 4: we've got preseason game. I'm not I'm not ready to

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots. No, I don't think the Patriots are

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Speaker 4: finishing the last I think the Dolphins are in that time.

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Speaker 4: Oh come on, yeah, tell you readers, I feel good

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Speaker 4: last place team of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I don't buy that at all. That's like saying the

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Speaker 3: Jets are are a really feel good last place finishing team.

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Speaker 3: They're in the same category in comparison and common I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. I don't buy that. Jonas.

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Speaker 5: Travis Hunter trying to become the first two way superstar

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Speaker 5: in modern NFL history. Aspirations of being an all Pro

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Speaker 5: cornerback and an all Pro wide receiver for the Jacksonville

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Speaker 5: Jaguars after winning the Heisman Trophy at Colorado. Well, Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 5: he was on the Busting with the Boys podcasts, will

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Speaker 5: he offered this analysis on Hunter playing both ways in

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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: If he plays corner, they're gonna run deep, deep balls

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Speaker 3: at him all day.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna run the wide receivers just take off on

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Speaker 2: them all day just to try and get It's like

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Speaker 2: him tired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, why wouldn't you just attack him

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Speaker 3: that way? It's one way to do it. He's got

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Speaker 3: to be playing man, duh. Clearly if you're going to

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Speaker 3: try to if you're going to try to run him downfield,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Kelsey, just stick the plane, stick the plan offense. Bro.

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Speaker 3: There's called this afety right, and when you're playing zone coverage,

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Speaker 3: if they're trying to just run him off, there's like

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Speaker 3: this thing called a safety right and and zone coverage,

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Speaker 3: he covers his own and that safety covers the zone

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Speaker 3: over top of him, so that your corner doesn't have

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Speaker 3: to run downfield every single play. Anyway, it sounded good

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Speaker 3: in there. I'm sure when he thought about it and

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Speaker 3: it came out his mouth, it was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: what That makes a ton of sense. But uh, you're

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00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: clearly not crawling defensive. I know levarn I worked together

652
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: too long. Guess I saw the look on his face.

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00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: They knew he was gonna go duh, duh. If you

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Speaker 3: got a coach that's dumb enough to keep that that

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00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: young man in man coverage all game, it just keeps

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00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: sprinting him downfield. And coverage ain't about all that. Ain't

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Speaker 3: about Travis Hunter. That's about the coach. That's That's what

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Speaker 3: I would say, My god, just run him downfield ever play.

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Speaker 3: You know, we'll get him tired. Hey, are y'all running

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Speaker 3: man with with with Travis? Hey is running? Is it

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Speaker 3: running back? It's like, alright, go route fly fly route?

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00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: Like all right, It's like when you want your toddler

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Speaker 3: to go to bed, it's just take him. Just get

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Speaker 3: him tired.

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Speaker 4: Just run him around, run him around the yard, Just

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Speaker 4: get him tired, and then finally he'll be I'll be

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Speaker 4: good to go. That's how you handle it. Oh, there

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Speaker 4: you go. That's not exactly how it goes.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's wait and see if Travis Kelsey's brilliant

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Speaker 3: idea comes the past. When the season starting yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's going to keep him from getting All

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Speaker 3: Pro as a as a cornerback or as a receiver.

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Speaker 5: There you go, all right standing in the NFL, the

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Speaker 5: NFL Networks and Top one hundred players lists as voted

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Speaker 5: on by the players. They're starting to release it in increments.

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Speaker 5: We're starting to get a look at the early spots

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Speaker 5: on the list. Dolphins quarterback to a tongue of Iloa

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Speaker 5: showing up at ninety one on the list now notable

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Speaker 5: drop of fifty five places versus last year. So Tua

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Speaker 5: barely checking in on the list this year. How y'all

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Speaker 5: feel about that? I mean, if he could stay healthy,

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Speaker 5: I've been doing this so withching for so long.

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Speaker 3: I just figured i'd let you say it because it's

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Speaker 3: just I was gonna say it exactly the same way

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Speaker 3: you did. It's the problem with him is that he

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Speaker 3: hasn't been able to stay healthy. When he stays healthy

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Speaker 3: and he produces, they're a completely different team there.

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Speaker 4: They're splits with him in the lineup and not in

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Speaker 4: the lineup are drastically different. And he just can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: I remember I bought this car, was an amadine color

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Speaker 3: car with a caramel inside. It was a gorgeous car,

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Speaker 3: all right. It's one of the first cars I ever

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Speaker 3: buy was Mercedes Benz and it always had something wrong

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Speaker 3: with it. You ever have a Limon, you ever get

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Speaker 3: a limit of a car? It's in the parking lot. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what that there? You go over there. You ain't gonna

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Speaker 3: highly rate a Limon as nice as that car was.

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Speaker 3: Drove my Excursion all the time because I always was

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Speaker 3: dealing with some type of issue that had me roadside,

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Speaker 3: lost its rating, lost its ranking, and lost its trust

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Speaker 3: with me. And I drove a way lesser of a

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Speaker 3: car because I could trust on it and it was dependable.

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Speaker 3: And that's why tuas probably down fifty spots.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know who the backup is there? Jack Wills,

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Speaker 4: Jack Wilson. They've got two Polynesian quarterbacks there in the road.

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Speaker 2: Zack Wilson.

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Speaker 3: How does that work? Got no way? It isn't believe it.

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Speaker 3: Look that up. I'm not bad. We'll have proof of

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Speaker 3: that coming up after the break. Let's see, we've got

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Speaker 3: a major Polynesian update coming up next year. That's major.

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Speaker 3: That's a major break.

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