1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: See episode one sixty here with Gabby Barrett. Right before 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: we went on. You can ask the question the go ahead, 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: I said, what is the purpose of having headphones if 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: you just in talking into them? Mike, if you take 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: off your headphones and you could hear the same thing. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Now you hear that. I get it. There's music that's 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: accompanying our conversation. Okay, sound effects, yeah, got For example, 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: if I were to play I hope if you didn't 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: have headphones on, you wouldn't hear it. But because okay, 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: got it, they're useful. Okay, what do you wanna up? Yeah, 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna flat on the top of my hair, but 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: it's okay. Well it's really rainy too. Is that a 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: thing for you? Yes, of course. I You should have 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: seen me running to get in here. It wasn't my house. Yes, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: this is the first I've been here. Huh. So we 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: met on American Idol. Yes, they brought me into the 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: top twenty four, to mental top twenty four, and they 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: brought me back again later on when it was you, 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Caleb and Maddie at the end. So you made to 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: the top top three of last season, made to the 21 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: final show with congratulations on that thank you. But I 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: guess we had spent a little time together because I 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: was doing a show on Pittsburgh, a stand up show, 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: and you and your family came to the show. And 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: this is why I don't was still going, and I 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: really couldn't even say you were there because it was 27 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: still secret, and they wouldn't even let you get up 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: and saying because we were gonna do a song or that. No. 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I was so bummed about that too. But yeah, I 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: didn't come to that show. And you put on a 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: great chiel. Pretty funny guy. But is that what is 32 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: that you laugh when I tell a joke. Yeah, I'm 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: so curious about what happens, and I want to guess 34 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: work backwards right like today? For example, UM, today, what 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: did you do in town today? Today? I went to 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I had phone call meetings, and I had um a 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: record label wating okay, without saying the name of the 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: record label. Yes, you went to a record label and 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: did what? Um? I sang some songs you did? Yes? 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I did. So describe what that's like because here you 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: are your new artists are do you live here yet? 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Are you moving here? I don't know, I don't know. 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's not 44 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: a bad thing that I don't live here, because if 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: I fly down here for two weeks but then fly 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: back to living somewhere for free. UM, I'll take this 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: as of right now. If you don't live here, you'll 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: never make it here. You don't link to start now. 49 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: If you make it big, you can move out, you 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: can go. Justin Moore does it. He lives in Arkansas, 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: but he was here. Zach Brown is probably the biggest example. 52 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: But again he's Zach Brown. So not that you're not 53 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: Gabby Barrett, but you're just Gabby Barrett right now. My 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: advice to you, I'm still mentoring it. You're ready. I 55 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: know you're eight teen, but you gotta move here. You 56 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: have to because you have to be with everybody all 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: the time. You have to be writing all the time, 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: like every day, every night. You have to be writing. 59 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: But how do you pay your bills in your hand? Exactly? 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: You go and you work at tootsies, you wait tables. 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: There's there's no shame. You can't have shame anymore. It's 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: how bad do you want it? Because if you're not here, 63 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be so many opportunities pass you by. Someone's 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna go we need someone tomorrow night, and you're gonna 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: be in Pittsburgh's Yeah, and I'll fly down that night. 66 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: What happened? I'm telling you I've already done it before. 67 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: You haven't I have. I've taken many red eyes down 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: here before. Well, not the same. I'm just telling you 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work until you come down here and work, 70 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: and then it's gonna take a while. It's gonna take 71 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years. Do you believe that? Yeah, yeah 72 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I do. I'm trying to get in the door early 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: as early as I can. But because you're good, there's 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. It's it's crazy to come to 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: a place like Nashville where everybody is so good and 76 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: you need to be around them all the time because 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: they'll make you better and you'll make them better and 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you'll write songs all the time. And you have Let's like, 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: you ever been to camp, like church camp or regular 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: camp or summer camp. I don't know what people go 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to you have anything like that? Okay? You know how 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: you go in with your little group and those are 83 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: like the people and you're like, oh, that's my class 84 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and all my mama folks, or like high school even 85 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: did you get to high school? Like everybody went to 86 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: high school? When you graduate, like at your class, you 87 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: make those in Nashville and then as everybody rises, they 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of pull each other up or they you know, 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: they helped away. The point is you have to move here. 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: We'll see, Okay, we'll see. Are they telling you have 91 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: to move here? Um? I actually talked to Luke Brian 92 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: about it, and he said he's the one who actually 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: said to me. He said, if you're coming down every 94 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: two weeks and then go back for two weeks, he 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: was like, you're doing all right? And so that's what 96 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: I listened to make sixty million a year. He's completely 97 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: out of Luke moved here. He had Luke had to 98 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: move here to make it. Yeah, So anyway, I don't 99 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: want to harp on that. I actually have quite general 100 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: questions about what happened today. So tell me about today. 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: You go and you you're they say, hey, come play. 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Is something like your leather rubbing? What's that noise? Leather squeaking? 103 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: It's squeaking against the quarter of the headphones that make 104 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the noises. So you go and you go to a 105 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: record label room. Who's in that room? Um, it's me, 106 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: my manager and three other people. That's it. Yes, And 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: they say what to you? I'm sorry, I am my 108 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: guitar blayer okay, and they say what do what? UM? 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: We just started talking about what's been going on after idol, 110 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: UM and before idle and UM. We played some of 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the songs that I have, some of the songs I 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: have in preparation to release UM as well as I hope, 113 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and then I did some songs live so they could 114 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: hear what I sound like live and how many songs 115 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: do you play them? How many songs did I do? Three? 116 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: And it's awkward when they're only three people watching and 117 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: they're like judging everything that you're doing, or you kind 118 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: of just getting your own space. It's definitely a challenge 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: for short because it's like when you have three people. 120 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: I felt like I was back on the executive rounds 121 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: on American Idol whenever the producers were in the room 122 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: and you know, there was only ten people, because it's 123 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: all eyes are on you and it's more concentrated a 124 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: smaller group than a big crowd. It's easier to do that, 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: so it is, but um, I think it went well. 126 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: So were you watching their faces as you were playing? Yeah, yeah, 127 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: to see if they like the song you're not and 128 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: what they liked it? They liked it. Yeah, it's like 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of like everything. So they were 130 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: liking it at least, I hope. So and what do 131 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: they say when you leave the room? Is that, hey, 132 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: that was great, like generic generic? And then they go 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: and tell you really later how they feel or did 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: they give you any sort of direction. Normally you can tell, um, 135 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: because I have met with a few record labels before, 136 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and normally you can tell if they are like feeling 137 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: it or not. Um, and their reactions seemed pretty genuine. 138 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: He was like like, basically, I'm I'm really thinking about 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: being on board here. Oh yeah, so what do you 140 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: have to do next? Um? I just told them I 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: would continue to send them songs and content and stuff 142 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and if they need anything for me that I'll send it. 143 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: And then you went from over there to over here. Yes, 144 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. It's a pretty cool day. You get 145 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: to a plan for a big record people, it's a 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: good day. So tell me about Let's go back to idle. 147 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: Let's kind of rewind a bit. So you auditioned where 148 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: what city? Addition to Nashville? Channels say right here? Why 149 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: did you fly down here to do it? Um? Because 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: when the producers had contacted me to audition for the show, 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: they said you could choose from three places, and I 152 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Nashville is definitely a place. How did 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: they find you to tell you to do the show? Um? 154 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: They have producers that reach out or look on the 155 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: internet for through YouTube and through hashtags on Instagram and 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: things like that, and I would always put hashtag American, 157 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I all and stuff, and they reached out from seeing 158 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: videos on the INN. And the first time a producer 159 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: reaches out, are you going come on? You messing with me? Almost? Yeah? 160 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Because well, when you get an email like a producer 161 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: wants to skype with you, you're like, is this spam 162 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: or is it real? So like you you don't want 163 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: to like set yourself up, and you're like, okay, if 164 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: this is real. And then when you see them come 165 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: up on the thing and they're like, okay, we'll call 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: you back, You're like, oh my god, oh my gosh, 167 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: it's real. So it was really cool. So what does 168 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the producer say to you when you get on Skype, 169 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: like I'm Gabby, I am. I think they're like saying 170 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: your name and your age, and then what are you 171 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: gonna sing for us? And you tell them what you're 172 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna saying. Do you sing? And then they're like, yeah, 173 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: I did. I did have to sing on Skype and 174 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: he was like what do you do in these days? Um? 175 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: And I was like yes because I didn't feeling he 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: was going to set. If he said that, then that 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: means he likes what he's hearing. So do you know 178 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: who it was? His name is Peter. Yes, So you 179 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: sing in front of Peter. Peter says, come to Nashville. 180 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Did they buy your plane ticket or did you just 181 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: get like a kind of cut pass? Did they buy 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: my plane ticket? I can't even I can't remember that. 183 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have been because I don't. 184 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't deal with any I didn't deal with at 185 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: that time. So you fly down? Do you cut the 186 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: line at all? Since they've already seen you? I was 187 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: like the first one there? Um, I remember I got 188 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: to It was at the forgetting the name of the 189 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: Country Music the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it was there. 190 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: It was there. And I was downstairs in a lobby 191 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: at six five, and I remember, Um, I was like 192 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the first one there, and then they all took us 193 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: upstairs and then one by one did the audition and 194 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: how to go for you? Did you feel like you 195 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: knocked it out? Um? You know you know, I mean 196 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: it didn't go the way that I thought it was 197 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: going to know, Um, why what what did you expect? 198 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: First of all, you expected to walk in a way? Um? Well, 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: I walked in and sang a country so long because 200 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: that is mainly what I love to do, UM as 201 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: my main genre. And they were kind of confused buy 202 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: it um because I did originally start in a gospel 203 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: choir R and B was originally my roots UM. And 204 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: so they weren't very fond of the country at first. 205 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: And then so I actually got through with a gospel song, 206 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: gospel what do you sing? His Eyes on the Sparrow? 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: And then they said, okay, but you're a country artist. 208 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: Well actually saying, um, Carrie Underwood, uh, good Girls and 209 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Church Bells three songs. Yeah. I had to sing to 210 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: those two songs. And they were like, do you have 211 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: anything that's not Carrie? And I was like, um, I 212 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: have Gretchen Wilson read kneck woman, who was like, don't 213 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: like that. I was like okay. And then we were 214 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: only supposed to have three songs prepared, so whatever they 215 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: asked me to do, it was on the like on 216 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: the spot, on the fly from there. And then they 217 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: asked me to do a church song and I was like, okay, 218 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: that's the first one I'm gona do because that was 219 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: my main song when I was in the church singing 220 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: when I was nine. So then you go back home, yeah, 221 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: and they say you get the Golden ticket or whatever. 222 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: They go to Hollywood, right, so it's gonna be a 223 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: few weeks. A month before that was like a couple 224 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: of months. It was in October, and then Hollywood Week 225 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: was in January, so you had to wait that long. 226 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Just excited the whole time, like every day they're going, 227 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait. Yeah. 228 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I was coming up with like a blueprint in my 229 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: head if I'm to pass this, what I'm gonna do next, 230 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: the next, the next, instead of coming up with it 231 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: while I'm there. So I did Hollywood Week this year. 232 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: I started at the beginning of the season, right, Yeah, 233 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: I um the Hollywood. We kind of a grind. Oh yeah, 234 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: that's the toughest week. The overnight happen to get in 235 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the groups. Even I was feeling bad for the kids. Um, 236 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, you've watched the TV. 237 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: It looks fun and it was right, It still was fun, 238 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: but these kids were getting in groups and fighting with 239 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: each other and they were all sleep deprived. No, it's 240 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: a difficult week. I remember going through that week and 241 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: I was like, well, shoot, like this is hard. I mean, 242 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: but but it was fun too because I'm a person 243 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: that likes to challenge myself on literally everything. So something's 244 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: a chat orange to me, I'm like, let's go, let's go. Um, 245 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: And so that week is too. It separates the week 246 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: from the strong. Honestly, who cracks and who doesn't and 247 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: who's ready to go on with the competition because the 248 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: competition is not easy. It's not easy at all. So um, 249 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: whoever can outlast longest? So you do the group, then 250 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you it's solo and group. You move on to the 251 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: top twenty four. And then that's where I came in, 252 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: And I guess I met you for the first time. 253 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: I remember what I don't I'm trying to think if 254 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I can remember what you were wearing. I remember what 255 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember what I was wearing. They just give 256 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: me I want to pick out my clothes and then 257 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: I just put them on. Those producers, Pepper, you with 258 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: so many questions all the time now, like they just 259 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and they brought me in to not be a producer, right, 260 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: to be a human. You guys could actually talk to it, 261 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, well, I'm a human too, let 262 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: me I understand this. But man, I would want those 263 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: producers and all and they're all black. You get behind 264 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the camera and they just like a thousand questions you 265 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: guys all the time? Yeah, they do, they always, I mean, 266 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: just to get every single possible answer. I guess out 267 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: of us that they can, because sometimes it's hard to 268 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: get answers out when you're excited about something. What was 269 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: your storyline? My storyline on American I don't like, what 270 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: were they highlighting about you? Because everybody kind of has 271 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: a story, right, Yeah, your dad was there a lot 272 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: because you're you're underage mine or as they called him, 273 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and so your family was there. Yeah, that was my 274 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: main story. Um, I'm just extremely close with my dad. 275 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: One of eight. Um, I was always a daddy's girl 276 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: growing up, and so he you know, even before American 277 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: and I don't when I started when I started singing 278 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: at nine in the choir, and then eleven I did 279 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: my first show all the way up to seventeen, and 280 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: at seventeen years old, before I know, I did a 281 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: hundred and thirties six shows that year alone. So I 282 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: mean doing shows in the gospel choir or just playing yourself, 283 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: no myself. So like I was with the gospel choir 284 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: from nine to eleven, and then eleven I left the 285 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: gospel choir and started doing shows, doing the anthem for 286 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: the Pirate of Steelers, just different stuff all the way up. 287 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: So it was like a grind for six years. So 288 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: you're saying the anthem of the Pirates is the pretty cool. Yeah, 289 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: the Pirates steeling the Steelers will be a bigger thing. 290 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: It's more concentrated in one game. Yeah, nerve wracking. You 291 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: see the anthem And it was the hinesvilld Um Yeah 292 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: it was Hinsfeld No, because it was a bigger crowd. 293 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Because it's like bigger you can't see like eyes on you. 294 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I just I got more of adrenaline rush from that 295 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: and rather than nerves you ever mess up? Um in general? 296 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: No singing the anthem, No, thankfully not yet, hopefully not 297 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: at all, but um, I actually have to sing the 298 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: anthem coming up soon in March sometimes for a basketball game. 299 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: How old you be the first time you're sanging on 300 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: a big stage? Um? The first time I sang ever 301 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: anthem for the Pirates? Really, were you freaked out at all? 302 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: You know what? You know what freaked me out a 303 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: little bit. Wasn't the people. It was the delay of 304 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: the mic in the stadium, because you'll do this and 305 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: then this comes over the top of you like a 306 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: second later, a whole second, and me, being twelve years old, 307 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: I just started never experience out before. I was like, 308 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: what the heck? Um? But I still like managed to 309 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: get through it. Um. 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I'm not a 338 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: coffee When I was going to Dance with the Stars, 339 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I drink coffee it a little bit because it was 340 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: that's all they had and I was exhausted all the time. 341 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: But it's never good. Yeah it's bitter. Yeah, I'm not 342 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: a fan of that. But that I started drinking too 343 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: much sugar with that. But you're eight teen, who cares? Right? 344 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: My metabolicalism is very fast. I was in Chicago, I think, 345 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: and you were opening up for Chris Lane when I 346 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: was on Stars where you playing Joe's Yeah, I did. 347 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: How's that going? Really good? Chris Line's tour was absolutely amazing. 348 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: He's amazing though, I mean, like he I can't I 349 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: can't say thank you to him enough because he brought 350 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: me unto the tour with him and was so unbelievably 351 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: nice and still is like to this day, we're friends. 352 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Down it's it's just really cool to see somebody help 353 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: you up and pick you up without looking for something 354 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: in return, because it's very hard to find, and this 355 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: especially in this music industry, to find somebody that wants 356 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: to help you without asking for something in return. And 357 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: he is one of those people and I know that. Um, 358 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: you know I'll be friends with him for a long time. 359 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: So he's great and it went good. He tell you 360 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to move to Nashville is the only way to make it. 361 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: He did not. He did it all right. So you 362 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: go and idle you. They're all whittling down. One goes down, 363 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: one goes home, one goes home, one goes home. It's 364 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: about the top five or so. Did you feel like 365 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: you were the favorite? The favorite? Because I felt like 366 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: you were the favorite. I felt like not the favorite 367 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: of the people, but I felt like you had the 368 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: best shot to win at about the top five, almost 369 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: like I think you got the best shot to win 370 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: the show. You did you feel that way? Um? I 371 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: was confident. I wanted to win, that's for sure. I 372 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: knew since I got to that spot, I was like, 373 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna hit it even harder like each time, 374 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: especially as the numbers were bendling down. So, um, I 375 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: was just really grateful, very thankful, And every time the 376 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: cuts came, I was just I had to be accepting 377 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: if I were to get eliminated, because I was just 378 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: very thankful to have made it that far. Already get 379 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: to the final. Yeah, final show. There's three of you 380 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: left going into that show. Did you feel like, all right, 381 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: I can I can do this. I'm gonna win this thing. 382 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Were you feeling confident? Um? Yes, what the performances? Yes, 383 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: but I could tell you right now whenever me, Maddie 384 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: and Caleb were standing there and Ryan Seacrest said, UM, 385 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: din't like the second they said or he said Caleb's name, 386 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I knew for a fact I was not getting through 387 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: because I'm saying Caleb. I knew something told me that 388 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: Maddie was getting through. And when they said Caleb, I 389 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: freaking knew it. I was like, no way I'm getting through. 390 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: No way I'm getting through. That's why I mean it 391 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: was so I was. I accepted the fact before they 392 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: even said her name, because I just knew something you 393 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: got tells you saw. But I was okay with everything. 394 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: What happens after idol is over? The next day idols over? 395 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: What do you do the next day idols over? Um? 396 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: We had to do a bunch of press and interviews 397 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: on the just the whole competition in general, and how 398 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: we took everything. Does it suck to lose and have 399 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: to go be interviewed. Are you more so happy that 400 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: of the experience, like really the next day, yeah, I 401 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: was happy. Of course, you're sad that you lost, because 402 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: when you set yourself up for something for so long. 403 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this was months upon months, um, that you 404 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: worked and you were so busy every single second, so 405 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: focused on something. So of course it sucks that you lose, 406 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: because everybody you know once that winning spot. Um. But 407 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: I again, I accepted the fact that it's okay, and 408 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: that was all part of the plan for me. So um, 409 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: And I'm really glad that Klea and Maddie you know, 410 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: got first and second place. They absolutely deserve it. They're amazing, 411 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: amazing singers, amazing people, so you know, and especially as 412 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: the numbers doing down, as you said, Um, you get 413 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: really close to people and it's not even almost a 414 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: competition anymore. It's you're happy to see if somebody succeeds whatever. 415 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be listen. There were four Dance with the 416 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Stars and I was like, I better win this freaking thing. 417 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to, but I I didn't 418 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: give a crap. Were you close with any of the other. Yeah, 419 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I liked everybody, but when it's time to compete, when 420 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: it's not how to compete, it's well, I like Milo 421 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: and I, Um, we're as close as we could because 422 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Milo is your age. Um, but he was really good. 423 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Um Ivana from Harry Potter with her and I got 424 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: closer to the end, but Alexis Rand and I weren't 425 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: that close. Um so but really, who cares who I 426 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: was competing? Who gives a crap about the other people? 427 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Like all week long we were cool and Milan I 428 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: was super cool. But but then when it's the game 429 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: time one, I don't want to lose. And if I lose, 430 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to eat my kidney. I would be 431 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: still so. But um, you're good for you. You're more 432 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: mature than I am. Apparently, Oh no, thank you. I'm 433 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: I hate losing. I have a problem losing. Um, if 434 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you're already complex, don't worry one day. One day you'll 435 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: have to go to therapist and it all come out. Yeah, 436 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: it all come out. You're still young. Wait for don manifest. Okay, 437 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: just come back. So you go home? When do you 438 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: go home? How many days after idols over um idol 439 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: ended one of May. That was when the finale was 440 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: twenty second. We did all the press the next day 441 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: after that we went back. So what's it like when 442 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: you go home? It's weird. I mean, it's so weird 443 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: because you're so used again being in this like this 444 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: different world literally Idols a different world. It's it's a flip. 445 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: It's a flip of what your life has been. Um, 446 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: you're constantly working, constantly emotional, like it's insane. So going 447 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: home and like you already know the answers to everything 448 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: when with Idol like that you were curious about the 449 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: entire time. It's like so weird. But then we had 450 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: to prep for the Idol tour. Oh then you had 451 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: to go to tour. Yeah. Yeah, so it wasn't all 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: the way over because the show was over, but then 453 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: you had more work to do for Idle. Yeah. They 454 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: pay you guys, good, m decent enough to you. It 455 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: was cool, I guess. Yeah, Like when I did dance 456 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: with the Star Store, they paid me like thousand bucks 457 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: a night. I think it's what it was. Really you 458 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: guys weren't that much A thousand but oh heck it 459 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: was ten tho dollars a week and if you did 460 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: a full week, oh my gosh, I think that's a 461 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: lot or something like that. Well, yeah, but I only 462 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: I only did one week. I mean, I don't know 463 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: if that's a lot, like four days, but I just 464 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: wanted it was an idol tour like that. No it wasn't. 465 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know 466 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: if no, no, it wasn't. Um yeah, no, I'm not 467 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: an expert on the whole money thing, but I know 468 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: that it wasn't like ten thou dollars. I didn't. I'm 469 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: just being like some people. I don't think that. I 470 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: don't think I made as much as a dancer, the 471 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: pro dancers. Yeah, I think because we were working in shorts. 472 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: Short but I'd still take that. Well yeah, that's and 473 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I did it that I didn't have to the tour, 474 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, absolutely, look it up right, Okay, 475 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: so you go, did you save your money? Did I 476 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: save it from the tour? Um all that jacket? No, 477 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: you know what I had to do. You have to pay. 478 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: This is a whole thing with the music industry. You 479 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: have to pay towards all of your music stuff because 480 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: this is very expensive. So on a tour. You have 481 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: to put money down on a tour for and that's 482 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: what I did. So, yeah, I did save it from 483 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: the audit tour and then I ended up putting it 484 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: on the next tour that I went on right after 485 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: the American audit tour was over. Now did you make 486 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: money back on that tour? Um? I think so. Marchandise, Ye, 487 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: you start. You need to start figuring this stuff out. 488 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: You got a business You have a business manager? Yet? Yes? 489 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: I do? All right, you have a good one, yeah, 490 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: because that's a good one. That for me was tough. 491 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand the business manager stuff. Now I do 492 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: because I like to understand everything. Yeah, I'm not going 493 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: to have a manager. Do I have a manager? Yeah? 494 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Sitting right there all right, just making sure he's sitting 495 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: across the room. Do you know the percentage that he gets? Um? No, 496 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know it. But I don't know. 497 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Spit it out. What do you think it is? I 498 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: don't know? Is it like five, ten, fifteen? What is that? 499 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: If it's five? We need to talk because I need 500 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: I need to redo my deal. I can't if you're 501 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: clising me on all this math. And I failed geome 502 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: my school. This isn't. This isn't. I have people that 503 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: handle that I can't. Don't first of all, never be 504 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: that person. But it's my dad, So I can trust 505 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: my dad absolutely. Well sometimes no, yes, there's been a 506 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: lot of stories about dad's Okay, well not my dad. 507 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: And here's my advice to you. Ready, I'm gonna continue 508 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: my mentorship because I'm listen, I'm in the business too, 509 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: right in your full you're like full time on this season, right, Yeah, 510 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: I just talk. I'm talking about music again. You just 511 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: you don't have to know everything's coming in and out 512 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: when you're so busy, right, you have people to do that, 513 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: but you need to know what percentages you're paying people. Okay, 514 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I'll pay attention to it more, just even in your phone, 515 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: like you need to know. Okaycent goes to my manager. 516 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what yours is. What yours is? Yeah, 517 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: goes to the agent. I don't know what you're is, 518 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: but that's mine. Okay, you know five percent goes to 519 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: your business manager. Okay, so I think that's I know 520 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, it sucks because all your money is gone. 521 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: You make it, you make a dollar, and you know 522 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: forty cents. But the good news is is that they're 523 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: worth more than that forty cents, so it's actually a 524 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: really good investment. But you just need to know that 525 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: stuff just so much. Someone asked you, what do you 526 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: pay your manager that you don't look like a du fist? 527 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: Because I used to be the dupist, because like, what 528 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: do you pay a manager? I don't know one? Dang? 529 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: All right, that's note number two. Alright to things we've 530 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: learned before. One, you have to move to Nashville to 531 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: make it to you to know your percentages my others 532 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: only ever one I've done when I'm like tutoring the 533 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: PERSI during it. Okay, back to you. So you decide 534 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: what do you decide your home? And you're like, I 535 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: think I want to make a run in music, like 536 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: in country music, or do you go I don't want 537 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to try go to college? Like what what's the now? 538 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: A terrible idea? No, I knew that. I knew I 539 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going to college before I did American Idol, because 540 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: me and my dad had talked about that. I told him, 541 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: I said, this is plan A and plan B. What 542 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: was planning and plane B? To make it in music, okay, 543 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: and just this was it. This is what I wanted 544 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: to do for the rest of my life. Um and 545 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: so even after American, I don't I knew already what 546 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: who I wanted to be like as an artist. That 547 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: was something that even but going through American I will 548 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: definitely reassured me of that, which is country. Um, I 549 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: always help people. I wanted to be the Whitney Houston 550 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: country music so and that's what I do want to be. 551 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: So we'll say that happens. How many labels have been 552 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: saying in front of labels, Um, probably I'd say like 553 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: five or six. Have you had some bad, bad ones 554 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: where you go, oh, that one didn't go so well, 555 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: not that I recall, thankfully, Have you had something better 556 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: than others? We're like, oh, for sure, they want me 557 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: to sign with them. Yeah, it depends. I mean it 558 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: also depends on the person's mood of the day. Like 559 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: they could be having a bad day and you know 560 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: they're not in a good mood. So it just depends 561 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: on the day. Are you recording music right now? Yes? Really, yes, 562 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: I've been working so hard on music since last year, 563 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: since right after I got off the Chris Lane tour. Well, actually, 564 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: in between the American Idol tour, UM, I talked to 565 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Carrie under One on the phone. I called her because 566 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: she after American Idol. UM, I'm just saying, go ahead, 567 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: oh please your context in your phone. After American Idol, 568 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: she reached out to me and said, you know, like 569 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: if you need any help with anything or I'm here 570 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: for you. She gave me a number. I called her. UM. 571 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: We talked a few times, and I just asked her. 572 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: I was like, what did you do after American Idol 573 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: to keep your my lad I'm going. She was like, 574 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: I would just constantly work. Um, Like while I was 575 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: on the American Idol tour, I would constantly work. And 576 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. Um. So 577 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: during the American Ado tour, we would have like four shows, 578 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: five shows in a row. Show show, show, show, show. 579 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: We have one day off. I would fly here, record 580 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: and write, fly back the next day and do the show. 581 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: So I mean like any day that I have off, 582 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing something. Always music that's good. I like that. 583 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: At about you think that's something you really can't teach 584 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: a work ethic and if you were doing that, that's good. 585 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: You kind of taking the day off and just chilled. Yeah, 586 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: but there's I think of it as like how many 587 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: people want the same thing and what separates you from 588 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: other people? Though, Listen, this is what you're coming into 589 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: a Nashville. Everybody's really freaking good. Everybody is really good. 590 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: What separates you is the amount of work you put 591 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: into it. It's like the NFL. The the line between 592 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: super athletic and super super atletic is so thin. It's 593 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: the people who put in the work. But that's good. 594 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know you were doing that. I commend to 595 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: you get you get a ribbon after this is over 596 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: for all right for doing that the song here? Uh? 597 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I hope you wrote with John Knight. That's how did 598 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: you get that? Right? Um? Through a great man? Okay, 599 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, look at that. You're already 600 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: writing with like cool big songwriters. Yeah, they're really They're 601 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: really cool. I've gotten to write with a few co 602 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: you wrote the song with the Zachary on John Knight. 603 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a little bit of I Hope Here 604 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: we Go, produced by Ross Cooperman. Yeah, whoo whoo, come on, 605 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: I can't even get these people in the room with me. Hi, 606 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: you you come in tally work with the biggest and 607 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: the best Already, I'm very blessed. Yeah, so what do 608 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: you what's the light getting in room with those guys? 609 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: What do you do in the writing room? You walk in, 610 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, I'm dabbing Barrett. Yeah, um yeah, I 611 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: just make sure like everybody's comfortable. I feel like that's 612 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: such an important thing because when you're uncomfortable and like 613 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, things just don't click very well and 614 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: you don't connect and you don't come up necessarily with 615 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: a good song. And they're the best song that you 616 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: come up with. So anytime I get into a room, 617 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: I just want to keep writing songs that could blow up. Um. 618 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: And so we got in that room with John Knight 619 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: and Zach Kale love them both. Um. We got in 620 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: the room that day. It was on Halloween, um of 621 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: last year, and we got on the room. We were 622 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what we were going to write about. 623 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, let's write a relationship song. They're like, okay, 624 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: let's start a song about a guy and a girl. 625 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, they don't work out, but the girl still 626 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of wishes him well, and I was like, that 627 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: is not how a girl's think towards Like when a 628 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: guy does this wrong, we don't go. You know, I 629 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: wish you will. We're like, I hope everything bad happens 630 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: to you. I hope you get cheated on literally the 631 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: worst thing. I know it sounds rough, but that's how 632 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: girls are. When you do us wrong, that's why you 633 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: don't do it's wrong. So I wanted to write a 634 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: song that was like, that was the song that females 635 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: never got to say to that person, so that when 636 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: they hear it, they can dedicate it to that that 637 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: type of person. Um words that you know they never 638 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: got to say, but they really did feel. M it's 639 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: pretty cool he switched up like that. Yeah, get all 640 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: that happened to you? Uh. Yeah, I've been in a 641 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: bed relationship before, so I understand and can relate to 642 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: girls that have to Who else have you written with 643 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: this school? I've written to list them. I'll give me 644 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: a couple though. Um David Garcia, Josh Miller, um, uh, 645 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: Zach Kale, John Knight, Ross Copperman, Um, Josh Ker. Oh yeah, 646 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: that's like heavy hitters. Man. Damn, your people must think 647 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: you're pretty good. If they're getting in right with you, 648 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: that's a good thank you, That is a good thing. 649 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: So okay, so you're here today, Yes, then what happens 650 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: did you play tomorrow? Do you go back home for 651 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: like eight months and then come back for another day 652 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: or what? Go home for eight months? Come on now now? Um? 653 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: No tomorrow, I um, I'm trying to think on my um. Tomorrow, 654 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: I have a writing session actually with Zach Kale and 655 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: two others from eleven three, and then I have to 656 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: record downos on another song that I did. So you 657 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: get a lot of work done while you're here, absolutely, yeah, 658 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: stacked schedule Your dad here, yeah, even though you're eighteen, 659 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: he's here. Yeah, because you can't like, he doesn't want 660 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: to leave me by myself. You can have one a 661 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: girl and an eighteen year old girl wondering around. Yeah, 662 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: but if you had a daughter that was eighteen, would 663 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: you want to buy yourself down here? Oh? I mean 664 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: I'd like a girlfriend much less a daughter. All right, 665 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I'm saying, if I think if she 666 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go pursue something in college, same 667 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: thing if you went to college. He's not with you 668 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation with you while we're on idol. Yeah. 669 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I was like, eventually you gotta cut the court. Remember 670 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: that conversation. Yeah, Okay, you don't have to do anything. 671 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: I know, but he's just he's very loyal to me, 672 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and so I believe that I'm supposed to be loyal 673 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: back towards him. I like him. He's a good dude. 674 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: He's great. I like hanging out with him. What do 675 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: you think about all this? Um, he's loving watching it. 676 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean he's been a part of it with me 677 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: since I was just started. He's the reason why I 678 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: even I am where I am, honestly, because he's just 679 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: been my rock and my support system through it all. 680 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: He's the one that's given money to get me two shows. 681 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: He's the one that's given his time. He's the one 682 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: that's not everything. So I wouldn't be here without him, 683 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: and he is really my main support system. So he's 684 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: just enjoying everything. I just give you a hard time 685 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: because I like you. You You know that, right? That's sweet? Thanks? Thanks? 686 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: Love hate relationship, No, there's no hate. There's no Are 687 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: you still dating the long hair dude? Yeah? Kate? Where's 688 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: he lived? Texas still. Did you guy see each other ever? Yeah, 689 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: but I just saw him not that long ago. Have 690 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: you ever come to town? Um? Yeah, we actually come 691 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: quite often together and we do our own stuff. Did 692 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: your dad go on your dates with you? Good for that? 693 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: How's that going you guys? Good? It's really good coming 694 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: up on a year. So yeah, yep. And Ryan Seacrest 695 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: out at us in front of everybody. We were the 696 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: first American Idol couple. Actually, some people think like, oh, 697 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Mannie Caleb were the first, but with the first, okay, 698 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: so how did that happen? You go on the show, 699 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: You keep it quiet from the producers at first that 700 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: you guys kind of like each other. Yes, and then 701 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: the producers literally just ask you every possible question they 702 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: can and scant what's been going on? And then told 703 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: I guess they told Ryan Secrest and he outed it 704 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: because I had no idea when he performed, and they like, 705 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: he did the whole reveal of everything. I was backstage like, 706 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: oh no, oh, you didn't know it's coming. No, because 707 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: we separated relationship from business, we were like, we're not 708 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna we're not gonna put this on the television because 709 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: we came here to win the competition. We didn't come 710 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: to have the bachelorette on UM so because we knew 711 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, we knew of Maddie and Caleb too, so 712 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: we'd always like go out together. So it was just 713 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: funny how everything unwinded though. You try to keep a secret, 714 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: did I try? They everybody tries right to. Of course 715 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you keep it on the d L. It's it's crazy 716 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: the minors they call them on American Idol. You guys 717 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: had your own schedule. Yeah, you had to go first 718 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: because you couldn't do you can do the long hours, right. 719 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool to be like seventeen and 720 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: a half and do Idol and not eighteen, right because 721 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: you get all the provincial treamment. Yeah, it was interesting 722 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: you know now that Yeah, you're pointing that out. I 723 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: mean in the beginning because I turned eighteen while on 724 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: the show, So from the beginning, Yeah, during all the 725 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: hard parts where people had to like stay super duper long, 726 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I got to go back UM. But then like on 727 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: the right timing, I turned eighteen, So it's like it 728 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: all worked. It was really cool. Did you get nervous 729 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: on the live shows? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I when 730 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: I first started, like, I was very fortunate not to 731 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: get nerves around anybody that I said, but American I 732 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: absolutely was definitely a challenge because it's like you've so 733 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: many people telling you, like, look at the camera, look 734 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: at this, pay attention to this, do this, do this, 735 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: do this, and there's a camera with a red dot. 736 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: When you see the red dot come up, there's sixty 737 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: million people watching you. Don't mess up. There's three celebrities 738 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: that you didn't even think we're human beings also watching 739 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: you and critiquing what you're doing. Don't mess up. It's like, yeah, 740 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: so it's kind of hard. And then once you get 741 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: yourself into that mode, it is so hard to get 742 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: out of. It's like an avalanche, Like it's a snowball. 743 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Don't get nervous, don't and nervous you get more nervous. 744 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: So it was a challenge. I had to keep going 745 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: back and forth with myself. Do you watch your social 746 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: media the whole time? Did I watch my social media? Yeah? 747 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: It was crazy to see everything want to grow. Yeah, 748 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: it was awesome, and it's really nice that they stuck 749 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, even after American Idol, it's really really nice. 750 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Like with I hope seeing that, you know, just from 751 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: a straight fan base, it's shot to fourteen on iTunes 752 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: was crazy to me, didn't that means? That just showed me, like, 753 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: while these people are really sticking with me even after 754 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: American Idol, which means a lot. So they're probably all listening. Now, Hey, 755 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: what do you want to say to them? I love 756 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: you guys so much. You have no idea. Thank you 757 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: so much to everybody that supported me, because you have 758 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: no idea what it means to me, and I wouldn't 759 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: be here without you. It's really all about you guys. Um, 760 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: anytime I perform, it's about everybody else, not yourself. So um, 761 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 1: just thank you so much and we're gonna do it together. 762 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Keep climbing Garden in two years. That's what you used 763 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: to say. That's what you would say that you've moved. 764 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: We talked to here because it was three but now 765 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: it's two thousand nineteen, so it's too Yeah, you would say, 766 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Madison Square Garden went headline in three years. Yeah, 767 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: you have two years now, that's the goal? Ye, what 768 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: is it? Goal? What do you want to do? Like 769 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: if we're back here at my house in a year 770 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: and we're in front of the microphones. Where do you 771 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: want to be? Where do I want to be? Um? 772 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I want too. I think it would be so cool 773 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: to be my ear I have an earring. Do you 774 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: have an ear ring or your ache? I have an 775 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: ear ring? Hearing in and it's like pressing against earring. 776 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: But it's okay, it's okay, beauty Spain, um and okay. 777 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Next year, I would like to be nominated for um 778 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: A c m A Award. Yeah, I think that would 779 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: be really really cool. That would be really cool. I'd 780 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: like to be nominated for c m A Awards. I 781 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: think that'd be really cool. That's a goal of mine 782 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: for sure. With that's why I'm trying to make the 783 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: best of best songs. You know what you don't like 784 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: about you? You have no shortness. There's no short of 785 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: confidence with you, which you have to have. You have 786 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: to you have to have so much confidence to be 787 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: here all the time. You have to be so sure 788 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: of yourself. And then your goals are super high, which 789 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: is great and people may look at you and go, gab, 790 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: you're crazy. But the crazy ones are the ones that 791 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: are just crazy enough to make it. Yeah, because I'm nuts. 792 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: I've always been told all your nuts, your goals, you 793 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: need to be big. Yeah, you know, if you don't 794 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: have goals for yourself, nobody else will go bigger go home. No, 795 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: don't go home, But you gotta go big, go big. 796 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not going big, what's what are 797 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: you doing? Well? You learn when it doesn't go right 798 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: and you keep going big, don't go home. Okay, don't 799 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: pack up your grab and go home. I mean unless 800 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: you're living in Nashville and then go back. Okay, all right, listen, 801 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: it's been good to see you. We did how long? 802 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: Half an hour? Did half? Half an hour? Interview? How 803 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: you feel about it? Good? I haven't seen you know 804 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: what I've seen you since the finale, you know. I 805 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: just said that to my manager coming in. I was like, 806 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: how's at your door? And I was like, oh my god, 807 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: I would see if this American idol? This is so weird. 808 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: So I'm growing so much. I'm a lot taller. Yeah, 809 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: you look a lot different. I was under my house 810 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: but before you got everying to catch a cat, a 811 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: cat that was under my house, and I was crawling 812 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: in the crawl space and I got I got it out. 813 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, it out right on 814 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: the other side of the outside. I know you think, well, fancy, Bobby. No, 815 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: you know who gets his own cat front of the house. Me. 816 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: There was no butler that does that? I do that. Yeah, 817 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: there's no Butler. No, No, Mike is the closest thing yet. Listen, 818 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: it's good to see at Gabby Barrett underscore. Right g 819 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: A B B Y B A R R E T 820 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: T underscore underscore? Why the underscore to someone already have 821 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: Gabby Barrett and you can't buy it from them? Did 822 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: you try? Now? I tried. They won't tell me. Bobby Bones, 823 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: why don't you try to buy to Gay Barrett. I'm 824 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna look into it. I have never tried that yet. 825 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: So we'll say, all that money you got from the 826 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: Idol tour, Yeah yeah, but does an underscore really make 827 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: like a huge difference? Well, yeah, it's just easier to 828 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: go at Gabby Barrett than the underscore. That's right after it. 829 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: All right, I've had enough of you, alright, I'm just kinished. 830 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: In a year come back, we'll talk about your or 831 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: a c M nomination. All right, it sounds like, let's 832 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: see you by the way. You have you know, I 833 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: forgot to bring up you have seven brothers sisters, right, yes, 834 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: because you brought like half of them to the show. Yes, yeah, 835 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, yeah, like we got all 836 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: these kids absolutely folks. Yeah, because I was I'm a 837 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: big fan of you, so I was like, you guys 838 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: have to come. We all are big fans of you. 839 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: We all would listen to you. So it was really 840 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: cool and it's really cool to being back here. So 841 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Yeah, all right, Gabby Barrett, there 842 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: we go. We'll see you soon. Alright, I check out, 843 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: I hope, and you're gonna put other music out. I assuming, yes, 844 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: music coming. Very not your last song ever, you're saying 845 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: within the next few weeks you'll hear a new song. 846 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: All right. There we go, gat Bart Everybody, Episode sixt