WEBVTT - Dorer the Explorer 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:08.799 It's me daughter. It's still giving Mario. That's because Mario 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:14.680 always says, let's go. Oh that sounds a much bita 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:23.319 what kind of name is amer? Oh? My god, the 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.720 ice pack resting on my neck right now is dripping 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:31.120 into my cleavance. I can see that we are coming 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.400 to you the night after having seen Doctor Strange in 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.720 the Multiverse of Madness, and it was so good that 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.960 Fran twisted her neck reacting to it in the theater. No, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.279 that's not what it's not. I love when you just 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.000 say lies for the sake of it. Well, I love 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.840 you love to lie. You'm an antihero, much like Luna Maxima, 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:58.800 and yet you insist on everyone believing women. What kind 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.920 of a liar would I be if I didn't want 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.240 people to believe the lies? I wasn't convincing anyway, just 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.120 like Wanda in the beginning of the movie when she 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.440 was giving folklore and then all of a sudden she 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.840 was giving evermore. And we're going to talk about it 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.720 today because this is like a virgin the show where 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.600 we give yesterday's pop culture, literally yesterday, because that's when 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.360 we saw the movie. Today's takes I'm rose, Damn you 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.400 and I'm Fran Toronto one Division One Want Division, Do 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.880 Do Do Do Do, once again, the song stress of 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.920 this podcast. I honestly wish that my voice had the 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.960 power of the guy with the tuning for us, so 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:44.520 that every time I sang you exploded died heroes, how 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.280 are you? Oh God, I'm so sick of being asked 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:53.280 that question, how dare you know? The vibes are, the 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.040 vibes are not quite vibing, the vibes are, vibes are significant, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.160 the vibes are significantly off. But you know what, I'm 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.800 really looking forward to, um being in New York this weekend. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.920 By the time this episode comes out, I will be 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.519 uh in transit to New York City. UM, because I'm 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.840 finally going to be taking advantage of my Christmas gift 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.960 from Mixed Frien Toronto got me tickets to see Into 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.760 the Woods at New York City Center, which I'm very 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.480 excited about. I've been hearing such good things about the production, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.959 starring A One Sarah morellus Bearing starring Sarah Borellis, Neil 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:37.600 Patrick Harris, Heather Headley as the Witch. My God Sarah Barrellis. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.640 When she wrote love Song, she came on this bitch 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:45.000 Matt as hell like she really did you know tweet 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.239 again recently because you it's definitely become part of your 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.480 um lexicon more as of late. I honestly I don't 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:53.919 know why. I mean, I think it's one of the 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.160 funniest tweets in instance, it's it's a Christina. If you 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.560 haven't just google, you know Christina bit Matt. Actually think 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.840 people don't know what we're talking about. I don't want 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.120 them listening to this podcast if you don't know. If 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.760 you don't know, you're excommunicated. UM. But yeah, no, I've 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.320 been thinking about it that a lot. And I mean 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.200 Sarah Brillas. Do you know why she wrote that song? Yeah, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:19.160 because she was in love. No, it was because her 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.600 label at the time, I really wanted she was like 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.560 writing about a lot of things that weren't love, and 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.240 her label was like, well, no one's going to really 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.040 care about her music until you write about love if 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.720 you write a love song. So she wrote she wrote 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.320 a song that I'm not going to write you ask 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.520 for it, which is her mind. And it is a 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.680 very iconic song and it's also very it's very Joni 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:49.200 Mitchell too because Joanie wrote music that was critically acclaimed 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.360 but not commercially viable, and her the people in her 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.720 camp really wanted her to succeed more commercially and they 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.680 were like, you need a song for the radio, Joni, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.560 you need a song for the radio, the radio, the radio. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.560 If it's not in the radio, you don't matter. And 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.200 so she wrote you turned me on I'm a Radio 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:10.240 because of that and to basically making fun of capitalism 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.640 and like and the radio. We love art that was 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:19.560 created through trolling. UM. So yeah, very excited for Into 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.280 the Woods. UM. I was actually gonna tell you if 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.760 you want to see a Strange Loop on Broadway, they've 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.800 reached out to us. UM recently. Zach Stafford, who produces 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.839 that show, said they would love to have us so 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.520 I would go see that Friday night. So if y'all 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.479 have not heard a Strange Loop, is this amazing, amazing, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.800 very black, very queer show that just raked in the 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.480 most Tony's this year as of today of this recording, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.679 UM eleven nominations. As is the case with every Tony season, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.760 there's always like one play that just kind of sweeps 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:55.920 because you know, Broadway is dead. UM, not to of 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.760 course devalue the wind in any way. But the Tony's 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.279 made history though to nominate the first trans person to 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.000 get nominated for an acting nom uh l Morgan. I think, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.680 what's her name? Let me yeah? What else am I 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.120 going to do in New York? Well? I have an 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.159 Airbnb and bed sty, so hopefully I will turn it 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:20.960 into a sex dungeon um within hours of arriving. Um, 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:26.520 I will be eating a lot of pizza um and 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.520 bagels so lots of bread. Generally I'm gonna be there. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.560 Saturday is Charlene's birthday. Charlene and Karnate, who has an 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.440 iconic episode of this podcast about Jack a Little Pill. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.680 If you haven't listened to it, you definitely should. Um, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:41.560 it's Char's birthday, so I need to find out what 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.159 she's doing. Um. Hopefully she has some kind of show. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.600 I would love it if she was doing her brunch 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.360 with Tyler Ashley baby Tea. Which is if you live 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.279 in New York City or ever traveling there, if you 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.320 are looking for a daytime drag show where it's literally 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.560 like two queens giving shows NonStop for like three or 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:10.400 four hours, broad daylight, daylight, like stomping on the tables 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:15.720 like that is that is the drag show, and you 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.080 everyone in the world needs to go at least once. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.840 And it has come a long way since it started 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:26.080 at fucking Bizarre Bushwick. Do you remember Bizarre? Yeah? I do, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.520 I do. This was a mess. I hated it. I 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.960 don't know that. I don't know what the venue is now, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.279 but yeah, Baby t is I think like legally one 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.720 of the eighth Wonders of the worst. It's a um 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.159 someplace in Dumbo. It's a restaurant that's owned by some 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:47.839 very nice lesbians and it literally, like Charlene just kind 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.839 of like jumps from table to table, you know, doing 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.760 like Macavity from Cats. It should not be missed. And 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.359 it's like always kind of announced like a little last minute. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.440 So definitely, you know, if you live in New York, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.760 don't miss Baby te Brunch if you have the chance 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.039 to see it. And if that's not happening this weekend, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.200 which I think it probably would have already been announced, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.200 I will find some way to see the dolls in 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:17.480 addition to seeing um. Sarah Brellis fran you sent me 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.680 a very dangerous text today that I was really with 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.240 you about, which is and then I went to check 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.400 my email and saw that I had gotten the same 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.000 message from you, which is that the Essence private sale 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:34.560 is happening. And I screamed, cried, threw up, took a 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:39.080 ship um, and then through my phone because I'm really 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:44.680 trying to do a no by month. Um. Oh oh, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.920 good luck with that. I've been I've been somewhat successful 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.880 so far. I'm just just in that in that single sentence, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.800 I know that you have not been. Um, you're right, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.760 but how much was that person you brought to the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.360 or this? I'm returning it so it doesn't matter. So 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.320 are you returning? Returning literally packed in a box? The 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.800 private SI looks so good though, like Heaven by Mark 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.600 Jacobs is on sale, and like there's some Ghani stuff 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.600 that's stop saying it. But I made the chatlow, which 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.800 is never ever ever I made. I made. What I'm 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.840 trying to do is I'm adding things to my wish list. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.320 I'm like being intentional about what I actually need versus 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.560 what I just want. Because I did this the last 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.360 time Essence had to sail, like two weeks ago, where 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.079 I only wanted one thing, and then because the sale 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.240 was happening, I bought a ton of other things and 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.640 then ended up returning, not liking and returning everything except 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.400 the original thing that I bought. They're going to come 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.960 for us with the guillotine. No, but we're not rich, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:52.960 We're just stupid. Um that's so true. Yeah, like we're 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.640 we're living outside our means the same way that everyone is. Um. So, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.680 I I'm asked for to do something for me somewhat recently, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.120 which was um, you know, Fran is kind of my 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.600 go to person for if I'm like waffling about whether 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.600 or not I want to buy something, I will send 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.800 a link to them and ask their opinion. The problem 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.280 is that I've started just not sending you things because 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.480 I know you're going to say no, and I doesn't 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.880 buy them anyway. Um. So to find a friend who 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.040 can hold you accountable and actually make them hold you accountable. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.960 So I'm going to start doing that. Um I will. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.200 But I've been pretty good and then I have been 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.120 not really buying things. I've been returning a lot. And 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.120 I also I like made a rule for myself about 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.000 getting take out and like eating out, and last week 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.520 I cooked or made every meal at home Monday to Thursday. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.560 That's like my new rule. Oh that's joke. I love that. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.480 But I'm going to New York this weekend, so obviously 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.280 a lot of this is going out the window. But 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.160 it's travel. It's travel. It's vaka, it's gonna have so much. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.320 You're gonna have so much fun. And and really for me, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:05.160 it's more like the not spending is more about saving money. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.800 So as long as I'm like saving the amount that 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.360 I want to save every paycheck or every month, like, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.439 then it's all good. And I'm just trying to curb 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.240 the shopping impulses so that like I can save more 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.160 on top of that. And you know, as long as 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.560 you have a plan and a budget and it works 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:27.440 for you, then you're good. You know, Queer people, we 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:32.160 as a community have money trauma, and that money trauma 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:39.040 manifests in an absolutely against all odds, like completely irrational 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.000 inability to ever look at our bank accounts, not once. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.840 But you know that I cannot look at my bank 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.240 account like to save my life. I look at it 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.760 maybe like one s aquarter, and every time it's true. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.760 So I have I have a separate savings account. I 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.880 use this app called um digit and what it does 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.800 is it not sponsored? Um, but I would love for 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.640 it to be. UM. It's an app that tracks your 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.640 income and you're spending and automatically takes money out of 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.360 your account to add to a separate savings account at 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.480 like five days a week, which is great because it's 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.559 just like savings that I don't have to think about, 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.320 and like that's kind of like my like vacation slush 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.720 fund and just like whatever. Like if I ever have 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.120 like a like a big purchase that I need to 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.680 pull money from something like that's where I'll take it from, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.760 UM and then everything else just get saved. UM. But 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.319 every time I open it to like if I want 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.600 to pull money out, like notice comes up where it 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.040 has like all of the other times I've done that, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.160 and what my bank account balance is and what I 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:45.800 do is I like when I pull it up on 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.600 my phone, I like cover the top half of my 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.760 phone that I am so I don't have to see 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.720 it because like see no evil, speak no evil, and 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.920 like honestly like back to the shopping thing, truly, when 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.320 I'm trying to reconfigures that I shop when I'm bored. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.319 I don't shop because I need things. I shop when 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.240 I'm like sitting on the couch and I'm like, what 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.040 am I going to do? So I pull up the 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.840 Essence app or like go on Nordstrom it and like, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.560 I end up not liking or caring about or actually 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.560 using the things that I buy. So I'm just trying 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.360 to like break those habits because truly the worst thing 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.320 that ever happened to me was that I attained a 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.800 level of economic stability where I had more disposable income, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.240 and instead of saving it, I started spending it. So 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.480 now I'm trying to tip it in the other direction. Okay, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.440 I love that. I really wish I had had that 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.120 app because I think if I had been maybe monitoring 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.520 my bank a little more or been more mindful about it, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.360 I wouldn't have been in New York this weekend with 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.959 a bouncing credit card. I I my credit card got 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:55.000 declined multiple time and unfortunately, very humiliated. Unfortunate for me. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.560 I got an email from American Express this weekend telling 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.520 me my credit limit had been increased. Oh no, but 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.079 you know what that But you know what that just means? 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.040 Like that is good for me. I'm building credit, um 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.920 I now have. I'm not like putting anything else on 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.760 my credit cards and now just like I have more, um, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.520 I have a lower usage now because of that higher limit. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.800 So I think, I like a lot of this is 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.080 really ugly what we're talking about, all the shopping stuff. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:28.640 But I do think that a lot of people, I know, millennials, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:35.440 queer people, marginalized folks like we are not taught the 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:42.120 realities of our finances, um in any meaningful way. Um. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.200 You don't learn this in school, you don't learn this 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.160 in college. Were thrust out into the into a world 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.760 usually with tons of debt um and and I've never 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.000 taught how to manage it. So if we can kind 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.240 of like like talk about this together and figure these 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.719 things out for ourselves, then I think that's a good thing. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.200 And that's why we have That's why none of us 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.800 have four O one case, none of us have you know, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.640 savings accounts, none of us have like credit, none of 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.760 us pay our taxes like we were taught to do 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.040 any of this ship um, and we are are the 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.640 queer commune basements that we live in. Sure as hell 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.160 aren't teaching us either, not that either of us live 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.880 in a queer commune basement. But maybe we should start, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.080 but maybe we should start one if you would like 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.320 to be part of the like a Virgin Queer commune basement, Um, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.840 slide into our d M s at like Virgin four. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.880 That's right. Yeah, Actually, while we're at it, can I 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.360 just quickly say because we usually say this in the credits, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.920 but like Pride is coming up, which is a big, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.880 huge eye roll. However, Pride is a huge opportunity for 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.600 this podcast, Like a Virgin and you, the virgins listening 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.840 at home, are the number one asset to help us 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:54.320 accomplish our dreams and aspirations. So please recommend this podcast 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.920 your friends this Pride season. We would love that, and 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.080 that is like the number one way to like know, 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.760 get our show to pop off, or you can side 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.920 into d MS, you can follow us whatever, And if 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.080 you have a podcast and you want to have us 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.120 on it, we would love to do that. Um, if 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.400 you are writing a list of your favorite queer podcasts 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.480 and you want to include us on it. But truly, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.520 just like keep listening, keep vibing, and we will have 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:39.560 some surprises for y'all very series. No one would be 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:44.160 talking about Doctor Strange two Rwanda because I didn't I 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.720 never even saw Doctor Strange one, I was like, Oh, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.040 this is the this is one of the marvel things 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.640 that I just have no interest in and we'll never see. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.440 And I only even watch Doctor Strange recently because I 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.120 knew that this movie was coming out, and I can't 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.520 remember how you felt about it, but I really liked it. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.280 I loved it. And I have to say now, in 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.200 terms of like the m c U at large, like 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.320 Doctor Strange is very high in the ranking of my 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.720 favorite superheroes. And also just like imagistically, I think the 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.120 visuals of like Doctor Strange's like powers and like the 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.760 illusions that and optical illusions that happened, it's very like, 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.880 um I spy level, like optic illusions that we're seeing 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.600 are really gorgeous. I think the dissonance for me is 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.000 that I like Doctor Strange is part of the m 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.640 c U. I like the magical part of the m 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.560 c U. I don't necessarily love Doctor Strange himself, and 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.720 even in this movie, I found him kind of boring 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.480 and just like very reactive to everything that was going on, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.000 and like this movie was about Wanda for me, But 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:53.120 I like that he is our entry point into the 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.120 more magical side of the Marvel Cinematic universe. I will 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.800 also say the jokes for the first Doctor Strange movie, 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.240 we're much better for him. I also agree, like I 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.359 liked him a lot better in his first movie, and 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.159 here he kind of I mean didn't fade necessarily, but 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.560 like it was about Wanda. It was it was about Wanda, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.440 and I think some of the So let's I think 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.680 before we get into everything, let's give like a kind 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.639 of t l d R of just what we thought 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.360 of the movie generally. Um, and maybe a loose premise 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.080 as well. Um, sure if you can even like you 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.880 are the one to do that. Yeah, okay, So loose 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.399 premise of the movie is in the chronology of Marvel, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.800 Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is like basically 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.920 kind of a sequel to wand Division the show, um, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.560 and also obviously a sequel to the first Doctor Strange 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:51.200 movie in it Doctor Strange is now you know, uh, well, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.760 I guess actually Okay, So the two things that I 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.120 think set this movie up the most are wand Division 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.679 and Spider Man No Way Home. Because Doctor Strange in 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.000 No Home has had his first run in with the 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.439 Multiverse um and did not go well and did not 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.040 go well. And so in this movie, Doctor Strange Um 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.959 encounters America Chavez, who is a girl with the power 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:18.040 to travel between multiverses, and she is being chased by 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.639 what we ultimately find out is Wanda maxim Off the 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:26.360 Scarlet which who wants America's powers so that she can 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.280 get to a universe where the children that she created 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.439 and lost in wand division um exist. Yeah, and she's 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.639 gonna be reunited, yes, these fake children essentially, And so 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.000 that drives the whole plot of the movie is Wanda 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.800 chasing Doctor Strange in America through various universes, causing all 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.840 kinds of mayhem, killing people left and right, truly killing 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:54.919 like brutally people like it's cuckoo um. And yeah, I 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.439 mean in terms of like my overall impressions, I thought, um, 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.800 we went into it. You know, I had read a 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.040 lot of sentiment that was not very nice. Like I 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.640 think a lot of Marvel stands were feeling a type 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.840 of way about the movie and feeling like it didn't 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.919 live up to the hype. And this movie is also 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.479 I think a year delayed. It was supposed to come 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.000 out last summer, and so you know, there's a lot 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:21.479 of reasons for people to feel like they have been 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.600 on the edge of their seats for something that promised 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.439 a lot and didn't get what they wanted. However, I 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.639 had a ball and I thought, I really liked you know, 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.560 the movie. Um I think that, Um, not to start 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.200 off sour, because I really did like the movie, but 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.840 I think I came away from it feeling kind of like, 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.119 you know, fine, in the way that I feel about 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:46.440 a lot of movies, a lot of Marvel movies. Um like, um, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.639 I don't know, like I think. I sometimes when Marvel 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.560 movies get super formulaic, I tend to forget a lot 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.520 of the details and I don't get that invested in 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.119 the characters. And this one was kind of that. But 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.879 also just like Wandas, like all care about is Wanda, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.160 and every time she was on screen, which was most 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.280 of the movie, like I was invested. Yeah, it does. 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.959 It is a movie that really I think maybe some 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.960 of the criticism is that it is not a movie 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.439 you can watch as a standalone film, but like, is 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.040 any Marvel thing something you can watch standalone? At this point, Like, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.399 you can only understand this film if you have the 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.000 context of watching wand Division, like some of the things 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.280 I've I've seen people saying or that you know, Wanda 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:34.320 is um you know, just like a flat villain and 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.919 like you don't understand from the movie, like her motivation, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.359 but like the whole point of Wan Division the TV 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.240 show was to set up this arc within the m 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:51.080 c U. Like her motivation is division Division, And honestly, 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.520 the emotional stakes are not there if you haven't watched. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.879 And literally all you need is that moment, the first 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.480 moment Wanda's in the movie when the wand Division theme 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.359 song like amazing Needles, Oh my god, it was so 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.800 incredible and so evocative, and immediately I it brought me 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.520 back to the show and I understood exactly where she 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.399 is um and you get it, like you get the 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.960 that show was all about grief and her letting go 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:21.159 of her grief for vision, but like I think it 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:25.479 did transform literally into these children that she created and 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.200 when she lost them, like and now that she has 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.439 all this power at her disposal, She's going to do 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.040 whatever she has to do to get them back. I 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:37.919 would also argue that like most Marvel characters are flat, sorry, 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.800 like and I think that the performances of the prestige 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.200 stars that they bring into these ship shows and movies 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.920 are the things that ground the characters and an emotional 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:52.359 reality totally well well, Um, Elizabeth Olsen ate this movie 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:57.000 absolutely like no question, Like she to me was just 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.760 as like fierce and complex as she was is in 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.320 the TV show. I think it was kind of unnerving 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.560 to see the level of her villainy as like, what 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.680 is being set up to make her the big bad 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:15.320 of like future movies? I think UM. And I also UM, 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.960 I felt like, uh, I don't know if we necessary. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.160 I feel like we saw something new from Wanda too. 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.880 I think that's something I appreciate. It is like there 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:27.399 was there was like a level of violence, um, and 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.720 a level of mania from Wanda that you know was 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.359 unsettling and it felt earned because we've seen glimmers of 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.600 it before, like in End Game when she you know, 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.240 goes after Thanos and he says like he has no 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.200 idea who she is and she says, you will um, 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.240 and we saw moments of it. I rewatched the first 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.560 couple episodes of WandaVision last night, and the moment where 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:56.439 she realizes that Monica Rambo has like invaded her world 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.640 and like turns and like throws her out, like this 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.040 has all been seated. And I do think that Wanda's 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:09.840 level of villainy in this movie is earned by everything 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.600 we've seen before. Um and it's actually just really fun 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.680 to see the creation of a villain because I think 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.560