1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Polo. It's known as the sport of kings, but in 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Nigeria it's become the sport of business kings. The polo 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: field provides another forum for business giants to battle, and 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: even government ministers and global giants like Coca Cola are 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: getting in on the act. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: It's a sport where you can meet people. I think 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: it was the famous Prime Minister Winston Churchill that said 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: polo is a passport to the world. 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: On today's podcast, we'll look at how playing polo has 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: become an essential part of doing business and whether victories 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: on the field are translating to higher profits. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: And this is money listening on in action, he goes 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: all the way, sixty, taughty, dirty, he does it. 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm Jennifer's Ambasaja and this is the Next Africa Podcast, 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: bringing you one story each week from the continent driving 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: the future of global growth with the context only Bloomberg 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: can provide. Joining me today is Bloomberg's reporter tiwa Adebayo, 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: who is also a polo player. We should note tiwa 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us. Let's just get right 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: into it, talk about how polo became such a big 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: sport in Nigeria. 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 4: Well, the thing to know about polo in Nigeria is 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: that it's actually almost as old as the country itself. 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: It was brought over by British military personnel. It was 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: first played by the Cavalry. The first match actually happened 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: in Lagos in nineteen oh four. But it's a very 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 4: big sport and it's played by a lot of individuals. 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: It's growing in Nigeria. There's around twenty seven different polo clubs. 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: There's thirty three different playing fields, from josh Badon to Lagos. 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: The Lagos Polo Club is definitely the eminent club, not 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: just in Nigeria but also in Africa as well. It's 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: where the highest handycap polo tournament in Africa's played. Highest 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: handicap meaning is where the best players, the highest ranked 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: players in the world play. The Lagos Polo Club itself 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 4: has around four hundred members. Now there's about seven hundred 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: and fifty active players in Nigeria as a whole. So 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: it may come as a surprise to people in the West, 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: perhaps in Europe, that polo is as big and people 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: are as passionate about it in Nigeria and across the 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: continent in Africa as well and Tia. 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: I should admit my knowledge of polo is very limited. 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: I know a bit about it. There was a special 44 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: on Netflix actually I think it was produced by Printeria 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: and the Duchess, but I don't know much about it. 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: What I do know is that it is quite expensive 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: though for people who do play it. Who is paying 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: for it in some of these clubs in Nigeria. 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: Well, to really get an understanding of who's paying for it, 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: you need to understand a bit about the rules of 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: polo and the culture surrounding the game. So just a 52 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: little crash course, on every team, there's four players and 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: one of those players is usually someone called the patron, 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: and that person is responsible for funding the team. They 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: pay the tournament entry. They usually own the horses that 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: you play with, or they rent the horses. Sometimes they'll 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: bring in a professional player as well, so they'll pay 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: those fees and they're essentially responsible for making sure it's 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: all paid for and it all goes through. So that's 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: how a lot of it is finance. But there's also 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: the corporate involvement as well, So in Nigeria specifically, there's 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: very large involvement by financial services companies, notably GT Bank 63 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: in Nigeria, the title sponsor of the Legos International Polo 64 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: Tournament this year. They've been sponsoring polo tournaments for around 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: eighteen years. You also have Chapel Hill Denim there's another 66 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: title sponsor. Companies and charities as well use so there's 67 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: a lot of different sources of funding that go into 68 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: the sport. But crucially, when I've been speaking to people, 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: what they're saying is that the sponsorship is growing and 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: it's also changing in shape. So it might have started 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: off as these companies financing polo tournaments as a way 72 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: to entertain their private wealth clients, for example, bringing people 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: to the polo it's usually a long day out and 74 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: you can have drinks at the bar in between the matches, 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: so it's a good way to entertain corporate clients. But 76 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: they've moved from doing this to actually sponsoring the tournaments 77 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: in a more traditional way that you might expect of 78 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: a football tournament for example, So having their logos up 79 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: around the polo field and having their branding crucially on 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: the live streams of these polo tournaments. That's another area 81 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: that the game is expanding into The Lagos International Polo 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: Tournament was streamed on YouTube this year and it has 83 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: been done for a couple of years. So the sport 84 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: is expanding, and what I've been told is that these 85 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: brands are really using it as a visibility platform and 86 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 4: they're trying to attach themselves to this label of premium 87 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: level entertainment and luxury, which is a very lucrative market, 88 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: especially for the financial services sector. 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: How important is it then for these businesses? I mean 90 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: you mentioned how it's growing. Clearly they believe they have 91 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: a client tell that they could tap into. How is 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: it being seen as a business tool for some of 93 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: these companies. 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: Well, I did a bit of research into this to 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: find out kind of why they put their sponsorship and 96 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: really their name behind these tournaments and actually GT Bank 97 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: they've described the Lagos International Polo Tournament played at Lagos 98 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: Polo Club as a staple in Nigeria's sporting and social 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: calendar and they say they remain committed to driving positive 100 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: change with it and also the impact and fostering of 101 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: community of the sport. So it's clear they see a 102 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: lot of different avenues with which they can grow brand 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: and it's no surprise as well that the clientele that 104 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: play polo are very useful for them. So just in 105 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: the Lagos Polo Club alone, in its members it counts 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: the Finance Minister of Nigeria, lat Edgen for example, Cola 107 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: Kareem famously the CEO of Shoreline. I spoke to him 108 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: before this recording as well. He actually owns a polo 109 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: team called Showline Polo, so he described it as a 110 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: sort of natural extension of his company as it were, 111 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: He's a polo fanatic, one of the highest ranked players 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: that isn't professional in the country, so it's useful for 113 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: them to have access to these people. And the way 114 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: it's been described to me is that if one of 115 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: these companies were to set up a billboard, for example, 116 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: on the side of the road, maybe twenty percent of 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: the people that passed that billboard would be relevant the 118 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: target market that they're trying to reach. But with polo, 119 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: as the former president of Legos Polo Club Adele told me, 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: they can guarantee really that eighty percent of the clientele 121 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: will be the people that they're trying to speak to. 122 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: I spoke to the commercial director of the Africa Polo Network, 123 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: Mercedi Molasiwa and he told me just how lucrative the 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: sponsorship mark is a polo is. 125 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: It's modest, but in quantums of millions of let's say 126 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: South African rands. Because these are private or they're not 127 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: really that public. I'm giving you an estimation in the 128 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, anything ranging between three to five million rands 129 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: South African rands for Netbank. The point out I do 130 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: want to say is that what we have observed is 131 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: that once the corporate sponsor is on board, you do 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: see an increasing level of investment in the quality of 133 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: the tournament experience. With every passing year, the level of 134 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: investment in the tournament increases and it's visible. 135 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: And do you stick with us? When we come back, 136 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: we'll hear more about the songe power role that polo 137 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: is playing and how it can potentially spill off of 138 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: the field and into the boardroom. 139 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 140 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Today. We're looking at the role polo is 141 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: playing amongst Nigeria's business elite. Tiwa Atabayo is still with me, Tia, 142 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: You've been speaking to some of Legos's polo playing community. 143 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Talk more about what they were telling you. 144 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: Well, I had a really fascinating conversation with Cola Kareem, 145 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: who is the CEO of Shoreline Energy and also the 146 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: owner of Shoreline Polo. So I asked him basically, what 147 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: is the business case for Shoreline Polo. Shoreline and it's 148 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: one of the leading energy and infrastructure companies across Africa, 149 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: and he says to me that actually the Shoreline Polo 150 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: team as it were, has kind of always existed. So 151 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: he plays the sport, his sons play the sport. He 152 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: mentioned siblings that play it, so it wasn't a sort 153 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: of surprise to formalize that into a funded, fully funded 154 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: polo operation. He told me that there's this real association 155 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: between polo and excellence, and so it's no surprise that 156 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: he'd want to associate his brand with that. We also 157 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: spoke a bit about how Polo can act as a 158 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: bridge between Africa and perhaps countries in the West and 159 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: even in the Middle East in terms of business links. 160 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: Cola Kareem has recently been appointed as to the advisory 161 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: board of British American Tobacco and he said to me 162 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: that working with these companies outside of Africa, he's able 163 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 4: to use Polo as a point of reference and a 164 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: global platform, as he described it, to bounce off of. 165 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 4: So I think it's really interesting at how polo is 166 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: building links between different countries but also within Africa. I 167 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: was speaking to Adeleyier, who is the former president of 168 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: the Lagos Polo Club. 169 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: It's a sport where you can meet people. I think 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: it was the famous Prime Minister Winston Churchill that said 171 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: polo is a passport to the world. The Nairobi and 172 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: Legos Club now have a yearly competition where we go 173 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: to Nairabia and play and they come to Legos and play, 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: and that alone has fostered social and economical benefits for 175 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: both sides. We also play the Heritage Cup at Guards 176 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: in England. The Heritage Cup is based on the Commonwealth 177 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: teams playing together playing in England, not already not only 178 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: Foster's Commonwealth relationship, but of course there'll be businesses there 179 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: as well. 180 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: So it seems like it's a force that brings people together, 181 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: as many sports do. And the president of the Polo 182 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Africa Polo Network said to me that they see the 183 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: sport growing into something akin to golf or Formula one 184 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: for example, a sport that is perhaps targeted at a 185 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: premium market, but with a very broad appeal as well. 186 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you mentioned a game like golf, right. 187 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: You just take a look at some of the deals 188 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: that have reportedly been done on the golf course, some 189 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: of the present and then I want name names that 190 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: prefer to spend a lot of time on the golf 191 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: course and the business that has got done historically. Could 192 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: that now the role that we've seen golf play could 193 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: pull those step in and sort of fill that void 194 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,359 Speaker 2: at least in Legos or in some parts of Africa. 195 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: Well, it does seem to be going that way one 196 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: because of the clientele, but crucially there is a networking 197 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: element as well, because it's not just the players that 198 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: make up the game of polo. To have a polo team, 199 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: you need an extensive team of grooms to look after 200 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: the horses. And those are often people who perhaps don't 201 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: come from those same circles of world leaders and CEOs, 202 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: but they have a love for horses that is shared 203 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: between them. For example, Cola Kareem's Shoreline polo team this 204 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: year have actually been playing with a groom. So that 205 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: groom the talent was recognized and he was moved up 206 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: into the team, and I've been speaking to various players 207 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: throughout the scene who have said to me that they've 208 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: seen grooms sponsored to complete their master's studies, for example, 209 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: and then go on to work in financial institutions with 210 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: their patron and it can definitely change one's life. They 211 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: can enter into an industry which they may not have 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: been exposed to, and it does remind me of the 213 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: game of golf. Actually, you hear often about people that 214 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: were caddies in golf and got speaking to business leaders 215 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: or portfolio managers and were offered internships. So it seems 216 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: like there is that same spirit of networking and entrepreneurship 217 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: that goes on in polo as well as in golf, 218 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: and it's growing in popularity, especially in Nigeria. 219 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Which is why it would make sense for big global 220 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: giants like Coca Cola and others to get in on this. 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: Right absolutely, Coca Cola has a polo team that plays 222 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: in Nigeria that bears the Coca Cola branding. Then you 223 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: have teams like MSD Baby Bear that is owned by 224 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 4: the Dan Goto's Cola. Kareem tells me that there is 225 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: a fierce rivalry between a Shoreline Polo Team and Steve 226 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: Babybaar obviously two big magnates of the energy sector within Africa. 227 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: That rivalry definitely spills onto the polo field as well, 228 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: and he spoke to me about the real desire to 229 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: win because you're playing with the company's name emblazoned across you. 230 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: But something else that's really compelling I think about polo 231 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: is Cola Karine put it to me and said, there's 232 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: only two things that stop people from playing polo. It's 233 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 4: fear and the second one is death. So it's a 234 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: very dangerous sport. But I'm told that that camaraderie that 235 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: you build because you have to trust your teammates to 236 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: such an extent, makes it easier to have dealings in 237 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: the business world because these are people that you really 238 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: get to know on a quite an intimate basis and 239 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: in a very high pressure, intense and often stressful game. 240 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: I mean, those are two very legitimate reasons to not 241 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: play this absolutely just saying how competitive are we getting here? 242 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: It's definitely something that a lot of resources are being 243 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: being poured into. There is talk about building polo fields 244 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: in Issamine, just outside Legos, which is going to be 245 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: a very big tourist area as well. That development's going 246 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: on there, but they want to as well as growing 247 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: the tourist attractions, they also want to grow the game 248 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: of polo alongside that, because it's clear that there's appetite 249 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: for it to watch the game, to be involved in it, 250 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: not just people that play it, people that are passionate 251 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: about horses and passionate about watching too. So you're definitely 252 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: seeing a very competitive level of the sport. But that 253 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: is the thing about polo. It's one of the very 254 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: few sports that you can't pretend to play because at 255 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: the end of the day you have to get on 256 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: a horse and go at about thirty miles an hour 257 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: and also hit a ball at the same time. And 258 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: I can tell you from experience it's definitely not easy 259 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: and it's not always the safest, shall we say. 260 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: And thanks again to Bloomberg's tiwa Adebayo for that reporting. 261 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: And here's a few other stories we've been following across 262 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: the region. This week, Sudan's army recaptured the national capital 263 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: from the Rapid Support Forces militia, a turning point in 264 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: a two year civil war that's drawn in outside powers 265 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: and torn the resource rich North African country apart. The 266 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: advance is a major blow for the RSF, which had 267 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: seized control of swaths of Khartoum and the rest of 268 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: the nation after the eruption in April twenty twenty three 269 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: of a conflict that may have killed as many as 270 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand people. And South Africa, with 271 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: the help of the World Bank, has a three billion 272 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: dollar plan to reverse the decline in services and infrastructure 273 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: in eight of its biggest cities. It will use a 274 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: one billion dollar loan from the World Bank coupled with 275 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: two billion of government money to finance grants for cities 276 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: including Johannesburg, Durban and Cape Town that meet targets in 277 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: providing water, sanitation, electricity, and solid waste processing under a 278 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: new government program. And you can follow these stories across Bloomberg, 279 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: including the Next African Newsletter. We'll put a link to 280 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: that in the show notes. This program was produced by 281 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Adrian Bradley. Don't forget to follow and review the show 282 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: wherever you usually get your podcasts. I'm Jennifer Zabasanja. Thanks 283 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: as always for listening.