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Speaker 1: This is twenty four a weekly highlight reel from the Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. We know

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Speaker 2: at least for now, that Judge McAfee in Fulton County,

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Speaker 2: the one who is overseeing the rico case against Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and a bunch of others co defendants, is not

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Speaker 2: pulling Fannie Willis off of the role as prosecutor in

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Speaker 2: that case. He's not dismissing the charges, dismissing the case entirely,

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Speaker 2: which he could have done. He's not removing or demanding

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Speaker 2: that Fannie Willis be removed from the case, which he

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Speaker 2: could have done. But he is saying that Nathan Wade. Now,

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Speaker 2: there are two options. The judge lays out actually have

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Speaker 2: his decision here in part in front of me. The

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Speaker 2: two options are quote the prosecution of this case cannot

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Speaker 2: proceed until the state selects one of two options. The

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Speaker 2: District Attorney may choose to step aside along with the

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Speaker 2: whole of her office, and refer the prosecution to the

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Speaker 2: Prosecuting Attorney's council for reassignment. So voluntarily just hand the

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Speaker 2: case over to the to another group of prosecutors, or

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Speaker 2: Nathan Wade, the special assistant District Attorney here, can withdraw,

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Speaker 2: which would allow the district Attorney, the defendants, and the

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Speaker 2: public to move forward without his presence or remuneration, distracting

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Speaker 2: from and potentially compromising the merits of this case. Let's

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Speaker 2: unpack this together, shall we. Why is it okay if

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Speaker 2: there was impropriety here for Fanny Willis to stay on,

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Speaker 2: but not Nathan Wade, Like, how does that make any sense.

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Speaker 2: She's this senior public official here who engaged not only

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Speaker 2: in conduct with a subordinate that is highly questionable at best,

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Speaker 2: but also she's the one who on the stand clearly

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Speaker 2: lied about what was going on. So given the fact

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Speaker 2: that she clearly lied, and given the fact that she

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Speaker 2: has made a mess of this, why wouldn't Judge McAfee

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Speaker 2: just say, look, you can't continue to prosecute this case.

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Speaker 2: Somebody else has to do it. No, he wanted to

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Speaker 2: lay out two options, where that's one thing she could

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Speaker 2: voluntarily say, Okay, I'm not going to do this anymore,

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Speaker 2: She's not going to do or this other move which

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Speaker 2: I had said the judge was going to do this.

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Speaker 2: I said he would do the the Solomon solution, so

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Speaker 2: to speak, and try to take this one down the middle.

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Speaker 2: But this isn't down the middle, because this is a binary.

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Speaker 2: You're either doing what is right and required here or not.

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Speaker 2: And he is not doing what is right and required

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Speaker 2: by any realistic and fair minded interpretation of what the

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Speaker 2: ethics around this and what the statutes involved in this

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Speaker 2: would demand. So then you might say, why isn't he

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Speaker 2: doing it? It's judge McAfee, what's going on? Well, for

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Speaker 2: one thing, he knows that he has his own career

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Speaker 2: to look at. He wants to keep his judge role.

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Speaker 2: Remember being a judge. It's not just about the cash,

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Speaker 2: not that it's a lot of cash, obviously, It's not

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Speaker 2: just about having a job though to pay the bills.

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Speaker 2: It's about the prestige and the power. People don't want

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Speaker 2: to give up those jobs. They don't want to go

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Speaker 2: back and you know, try to just make it in

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Speaker 2: some law firm somewhere and you know, Atlanta, greater Atlanta area. No,

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Speaker 2: he wants to keep it roll. Beyond that, I think

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Speaker 2: he recognized that if he was seen in any way

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Speaker 2: as assisting Donald Trump, they would start to run articles

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Speaker 2: about how he is part of the MAGA underhanded destruction

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Speaker 2: of our institutions, that it's Donald Trump's henchman. Judge McAfee

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Speaker 2: steps in, even though that's I understand delusional and it

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Speaker 2: is delusional. But even with that knowledge, we all have

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Speaker 2: to sit here and understand that is what they would

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Speaker 2: say about him. They would make these claims about Judge McAfee,

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Speaker 2: and perhaps even more than just make claims. I said

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Speaker 2: it a few days ago here on the show. They

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Speaker 2: set a standard, and this is so important. It's not

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Speaker 2: the precedent that it sets right. That was true in

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Speaker 2: the Kavanaugh hearings. Yeah, have some lunatic make up a

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Speaker 2: years ago or something and I can't remember anything, but

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Speaker 2: you know, then call them a sexual predator. Oh they

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Speaker 2: did that, and then what happened to Donald Trump a

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Speaker 2: few years after Kavanaugh. They had set the precedent right,

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Speaker 2: and there's precedent being set as well with judges Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court justices during the Roe v. Wade decision process, right

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Speaker 2: before the decision came out, we never found out who

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Speaker 2: And you know why I knew because they didn't want

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Speaker 2: to find out, because people like Justice Roberts and many others,

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Speaker 2: especially within the Beltway, know that the Left is destroying

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Speaker 2: the institutions in this country, is doing everything they can

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Speaker 2: so that a smart, wise person would have no faith

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Speaker 2: that's irretrievable. So they'll help. They'll even help cover things up.

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Speaker 2: They may not be in on it, but they don't

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Speaker 2: want everyone to know the full truth. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I knew they were never going to find out who

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court leaguer was, and they haven't. I got

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Speaker 2: some ideas they've never found out. But remember they allowed,

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Speaker 2: in clear violation of federal law. They allowed protesters to

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Speaker 2: of sheer intimidation that is illegal, and they let it

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's about reproductive rights, so any you know, that's

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Speaker 3: the only law that matters to make believe reproductive rights laws.

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Speaker 2: And then there was even that lunatic that showed up

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Speaker 2: assassinate a Supreme Court justice. You know what. A lot

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Speaker 2: of other judges were paying attention to that too. They

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Speaker 2: can read the news as well, and they say to themselves,

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Speaker 2: to deal with that? Does my family? What are they

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Speaker 2: going to say to my kids in school? If I

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Speaker 2: do something that gets me caught up in the anti

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Speaker 2: Trump derangement of the Democrat Party? What happens to me?

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Speaker 2: Then they send a message even when they don't win.

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Speaker 2: That's the critical thing to remember. They don't have to

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Speaker 2: get their way every time. They just have to show

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Speaker 2: you what they're willing to do, and that that influences

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Speaker 2: ways that if you're not paying attention, you could say, well,

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Speaker 2: how could that happen? What is better not just for

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Speaker 2: the career prospects of Judge McAfee, but for making sure

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Speaker 2: that he doesn't have his wife at home terrified by

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Speaker 2: purple haired anti Trump lunatics protesting outside of his home

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Speaker 2: saying that he's a racist judge. Look, he fired Fanny Willis.

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Speaker 2: We all know he can't fire Fanny Willis because she's

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Speaker 2: a prominent black and I say fire take her off

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Speaker 2: the case. Prominent black female prosecuting Donald Trump. His career

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Speaker 2: in his mind's over, it's over. You think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: You think the Georgia State Bar Association, all these state

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Speaker 2: bar associations are basically run by communists. Now, you think

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Speaker 2: They will make an example of him. There will be maniacs,

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Speaker 2: probably you know, teachers or random parents who I don't

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Speaker 2: The harasses kids in school over this. So that's part

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Speaker 2: of the power that the left brings to all of

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Speaker 2: get Donald Trump. And that brings me also the Fannie

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Speaker 2: Willis side of this. Who's the fool here, my friends?

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Speaker 2: Who has looked foolish in this situation? Fannie Willis gets

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Speaker 2: up there clearly lying to all of us, Right, we're

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Speaker 2: not idiots, She's lying. Her conduct is reckless. She has

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Speaker 2: the here do we have the Where was she saying

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Speaker 2: that they deserve somebody that won't have Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: This is a flashback to twenty twenty, not you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty years ago, a flashback to a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Here's Foannie Willis when she wanted the job district attorney saying,

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Speaker 2: you know what, you guys really deserve somebody who won't

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Speaker 2: sleep with her direct employees play six.

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Speaker 4: Because they deserve a DA that won't have sex with

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Speaker 4: his employees. Because they deserve a DA that won't put

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Speaker 4: benefit children, because we deserve better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah about that whole having sex with employees thing. And

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Speaker 2: a guy who's a special prosecutor, you know, within the

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Speaker 2: paid six hundred thousand dollars. I have friends who have

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Speaker 2: District attorney's offices of other cities. That seems like a

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Speaker 2: lot of money to me that Nathan Wade's getting paid.

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Speaker 2: Oh for all of his expertise in reco cases, He's

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Speaker 2: about who's who's the fool in this situation. Danny Willis

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Speaker 2: gets up there, she testifies brazen misconduct, clearly lying, she's defiant.

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Speaker 2: She undermines any sense of gravitas and fairness that that

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Speaker 2: District Attorney's office in Fulton County has. Okay, she makes

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Speaker 2: a mockery of the whole thing. And we sit here

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Speaker 2: woman who is prosecuting Donald Trump, and she was right.

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Speaker 2: What does that tell you about the system. What does

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Speaker 2: look at her testimony. She's being you know, so belligerent

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Speaker 2: and oh, I paid him back in cash. Remember that,

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Speaker 2: Oh I was paying him back for the trips in cash.

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Speaker 2: And we're all going, that's so ridiculous. Yeah, But she

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Speaker 2: those two things together, she gets to stay, and she

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Speaker 2: bankrupt because of their association with Donald Trump, and of course,

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Speaker 2: most central and most important to her of all, to

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Speaker 2: the outcome of a presidential election and with it, the

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Speaker 2: about it all the way because she wins. No matter what.

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Speaker 2: She knows, she won't get taken off the case. She

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Speaker 2: knows he's invulnerable. She knows that prosecuting Trump, even if unsuccessful,

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Speaker 2: gains her tremendous, tremendous access and praise in not just

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Speaker 2: legal you know, prominent democrat legal circles. But you know, she's, Oh,

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Speaker 2: just does anyone want to take a guess? Now, I

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Speaker 2: was the one who was saying when Christine blasi Ford

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Speaker 2: that was such bull crap, nonsense analysis. Obviously, she was

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Speaker 2: becoming a hero to the Democrats. Guess what Fannie willis

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact

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Speaker 2: And Buck, we were just talking about possible third party

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched yesterday RFK June. We should get Ali.

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Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 5: There is talk that RFK Junior is going to become

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Speaker 2: So according to the RFK campaign, I look this up

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Speaker 2: I rose over all of the government. This isn't popular

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Speaker 2: What is the point other than sheer narcissism of running

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Speaker 5: And if you're a Libertarian, I think eighty percent of

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Speaker 5: them would prefer Trump over Biden. Not to say Trump's perfect,

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Speaker 5: Certainly he grew the size of the federal government. And

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Speaker 5: I understand and get those emails all the time, but

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Speaker 5: I think you are behaving in a childlike fashion if

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Speaker 5: you are in a swing state and you vote third party,

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Speaker 5: because basically what you're saying is I care more about

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Speaker 5: not making a choice than I do about making a

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Speaker 5: choice for who the next president of the United States

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Speaker 5: would be. You're choosing not to engage in the most

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Speaker 5: important decision of the twenty twenty four election. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's cowardly and I think it's childlike. And I

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Speaker 5: know right now I'm gonna get blown up. The Libertarians

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Speaker 5: are going to be so mad in the RFK Junior

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Speaker 5: people are going to be so mad. I say, vote

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Speaker 5: your conscience. If you live in a state that's not

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Speaker 5: going to be close. But you're in Michigan, you're in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 5: you're in Wisconsin, you're in Georgia, you're in Arizona, you're

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Speaker 5: in Nevada, you're in North Carolina. You're in even some

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Speaker 5: buck congressional districts Omaha, Nebraska, hugely important. That electoral vote

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Speaker 5: could be monumental. If you're in Maine and you're in

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Speaker 5: congressional district too, your vote could be incredibly important. Your

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Speaker 5: cowards if you vote third party. And that's Buck Sexton

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Speaker 5: saying that you can email him at uh.

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Speaker 2: I hate when he does that. I hate that almost

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Speaker 2: as much as when I get the emails say you

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Speaker 2: need to tell Clay to stop. I'm like, I'm already out.

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Speaker 2: I'm already out. It's not going to work.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, you're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier

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Speaker 1: in Politics with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I thought was most fascinating

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Speaker 5: we finished yesterday's show. You asked me if I thought

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Speaker 5: that Aaron Rodgers was going to be the running mate

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Speaker 5: for Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and then and I said no.

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Speaker 5: After although right after we finished the show, rfk Junior,

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Speaker 5: unless something has changed, has said March twenty sixth will

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Speaker 5: be the date that he will announce who his vice

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Speaker 5: presidential candidate will be. And then I get home and

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Speaker 5: I sit down and suddenly CNN has a hit piece

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Speaker 5: up on Aaron Rodgers, quoting him from a conversation that

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Speaker 5: he allegedly had with a CNN reporter over a decade

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Speaker 5: ago at a Kentucky derby party surrounding Sandy Hook and

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Speaker 5: so and what he did or did not say about

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Speaker 5: Sandy Hook. And that made me think, Buck, actually, maybe

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Speaker 5: I was wrong. He must be the nominee who is

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Speaker 5: going to end up being on the ticket with RFK Junior,

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Speaker 5: which is raises all sorts of crazy stuff. We got

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Speaker 5: a ton of polls that are out since the State

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Speaker 5: of the Union that have all been favorable to Trump

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Speaker 5: by and large. But the impact of RFK Junior and

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Speaker 5: then also Carnell West and Jill Stein and whomever else

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Speaker 5: from the Libertarian Party or elsewhere manages to find their

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Speaker 5: way onto the ticket may well decide who ends up

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Speaker 5: winning this election, particularly in the seven or eight different

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Speaker 5: swing states where it's going to come down to a

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Speaker 5: few thousand votes one way or the other. So do

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Speaker 5: you buy this in general that when I saw the

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Speaker 5: CNN attack Buck, I'm like, he must be the guy,

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Speaker 5: because otherwise I don't know why they would suddenly be

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Speaker 5: bringing out a random Sandy Hook hit from him allegedly

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Speaker 5: talking back in at Kentucky Derby Party over a decade ago.

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Speaker 5: This is a vintage hit from the left wing, is

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Speaker 5: basically what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, but also it's I think it was

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Speaker 2: pretty clear to me early on Jesse Ventura would be

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Speaker 2: a less serious pick at this stage of American politics

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Speaker 2: than Aaron Rodgers, or rather more problematic if RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: wants to be seen as a serious third party option.

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Speaker 2: And I've got to say, I do have my questions

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Speaker 2: about what exactly is a third party option supposed to

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Speaker 2: accomplish in this context because no one thinks are not

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Speaker 2: even the people that are going to vote for him,

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Speaker 2: think RFK Junior is going to win, right, No one

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Speaker 2: thinks he's going to win. So what purpose does it

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Speaker 2: really serve? I understand that there might be the oh,

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Speaker 2: it'll give a voice to important issues. And I think

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Speaker 2: we've been very fair here. First of all, we've had

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Speaker 2: him on the show. We say he is great on

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Speaker 2: a lot of the COVID stuff and the vaccine mandate

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Speaker 2: stuff from COVID, said some good things on the border,

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Speaker 2: but you know, at some point you got to ask

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Speaker 2: what exactly you're trying to do here? You know, well,

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Speaker 2: what really is the goal? And if it's just I

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Speaker 2: want attention, I want to void the future of the

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Speaker 2: country is going to be affected by who wins this

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Speaker 2: next election. I'm not sure I want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to be involved in the discussion too. Is

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Speaker 2: necessarily a good thing, depends on how it shakes out.

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you got some of this because because of

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Speaker 5: how much time I spent on it, A lot of

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Speaker 5: people are fired up about my anti third party position

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Speaker 5: and I want to clarify it and I want to

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Speaker 5: double triple down quadrix.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, did you kick a hornet's nest?

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Speaker 2: Wait for all the hornets to start buzzing. I'm watching

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Speaker 2: this from, like, you know, twenty feet away, and then

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Speaker 2: you decided to kick it again and again.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to keep doing it because I'm right

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Speaker 5: on this and some of you out there are cowards

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Speaker 5: and you are unwilling to acknowledge the truth and you're

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Speaker 5: blaming me for telling it to you.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna hammer it home again.

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Speaker 2: I'm yelling in the distance, Clay, They'll keep stinging. He's

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Speaker 2: like I don't care.

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Speaker 6: I've got immunity. The stings at this point.

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Speaker 5: The reality is if you live in a swing state

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Speaker 5: and you would vote for Donald Trump, but you are

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Speaker 5: mad at Trump because you voted for DeSantis, or you

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Speaker 5: voted for Nicki Hayley, or you voted for whoever you did,

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Speaker 5: and as a result, you're going to vote for RFK

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Speaker 5: Junior or Jill Stein or Carnel West or whatever third

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Speaker 5: party candidate is out there. You are effectively voting for

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden. You just don't have the balls to do it.

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Speaker 5: And look, I think anybody who votes for Joe Biden

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Speaker 5: is an imbecile based on what he's done personally. I

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Speaker 5: believe that you are making the worst presidential decision, probably

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Speaker 5: of any of our lives. I really do, because Joe Biden,

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Speaker 5: I believe, has failed on every front. And not only

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Speaker 5: is he not able to do the job mentally and

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Speaker 5: physically even when he was a younger man, he's been

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Speaker 5: bad in office. So I think you're making the worst

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Speaker 5: decision of your life from a presidential voting perspective if

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Speaker 5: you were voting for Joe Biden in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Even for people who voted for him in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Some of those people are listening to us right now.

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Speaker 5: Ten percent of Joe Biden voters are changing because they

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Speaker 5: bought what was sold and it wasn't delivered to them.

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Speaker 5: And I respect you if you're listening to us right

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Speaker 5: now and you've had a change of heart. Even I'll

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Speaker 5: say this, Buck, even if you are a Joe Biden

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Speaker 5: voter and you're not quite willing to vote Trump, but

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Speaker 5: you're made the move to third party so you're not

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Speaker 5: voting for Biden, I give some respect to you. But

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Speaker 5: if you are a otherwise Trump supporter who is angry

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Speaker 5: about are angry about DeSantis, or angry about Nikki Hayley

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Speaker 5: and you are basically protest voting, I think you are.

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Speaker 5: You not ballsy enough to vote for Joe Biden, But

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Speaker 5: that's effectively what you're doing, because you're taking away a

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Speaker 5: vote from Trump in what is going to be a

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Speaker 5: tight race. And this, to me, Buck, is a binary

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Speaker 5: you're if you're in a state like you and I are.

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Speaker 5: Although Florida is a little bit more of a toss up.

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Speaker 5: In Tennessee, it's not particularly close. You can vote for

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Speaker 5: anybody and Trump's gonna win. By thirty. But if you

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Speaker 5: are not willing to make a binary choice in a

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Speaker 5: swing state, I believe, and you would otherwise vote for Trump,

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Speaker 5: you don't have the balls to vote for Biden. And

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Speaker 5: I think you're being a coward, and I think you're

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Speaker 5: embracing a strategy that guarantees you're a loser because there's

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Speaker 5: no way your candidate's gonna win.

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Speaker 2: So I would like to have a little moment of

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Speaker 2: bringing it together here and focus her ire on Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 2: if I can, I appreciate that. Thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: because one thing I think we all can agree on

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Speaker 2: is that Kamala Harris is a deeply unpopular and inept

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Speaker 2: politician who lacks the skills that you would normally expect

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Speaker 2: somebody to have to get as far as she has

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Speaker 2: as a vice president, although maybe not Joe Biden was

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Speaker 2: a vice president before. He's a clown. But this, I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you for me. She's speaking about what

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Speaker 2: Trump will do if he wins, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: so much of this, Oh my gosh, Donald Trump, it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be so scary, and she says that this is

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Speaker 2: cut twenty five. He will weaponize the DOJ against people.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question about this play

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Speaker 2: it and that is not all if he is re elected.

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Speaker 4: The former president has openly said he intends to weaponize

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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice against his enemies.

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Speaker 2: Clay Biden has already weaponized the Department of Justice against Trump.

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Speaker 2: We all know that. In fact, it is so obvious

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Speaker 2: that this is what I this is what I'm posing,

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Speaker 2: what I want to pose to you. Is this Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris lacking all self awareness and any sense of irony?

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Speaker 2: Or is she trolling? Has she actually decided to just

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Speaker 2: go all in and trol the Trump supporters by saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: the DOJ would be so mean to us. We all

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Speaker 2: know what's going on with the DOJ and Trump world.

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Speaker 5: It's such an interesting question because in theory, as the

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Speaker 5: Attorney general formerly of California, even if she got there

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Speaker 5: by sleeping with a married man, As the former attorney general,

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Speaker 5: you would think that she would understand basic levels of truth,

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Speaker 5: justice and state and federal power and how that is

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Speaker 5: implicated when it is brought to bear against individuals. So

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Speaker 5: a part of me feels like this is just her

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Speaker 5: knowing that her base doesn't care and they're not going

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Speaker 5: to call her on this hypocrisy, so I think she's

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Speaker 5: aware of it. I think she has to be cognizant

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Speaker 5: of it. I think probably what she would say if

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Speaker 5: she were trying to defend this take is, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: we haven't committed any crimes.

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Speaker 6: Trump committed so many crimes. What do you expect us

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Speaker 6: to do? Right?

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Speaker 5: So her position would be Trump would put innocent people

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Speaker 5: in prison, and that's the difference if they disagree with him,

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Speaker 5: whereas we're trying to put actual lawbreakers in prison. I

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Speaker 5: think that's probably the dist thing she would make. But

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Speaker 5: she has to be smart enough to recognize that they

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Speaker 5: had their cross the rubicon moment already when the FBI

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Speaker 5: rated Mara a Lago and when they brought charges in

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Speaker 5: four different jurisdictions, charges buck that are scheduled to start,

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Speaker 5: Remember in eleven days. I mentioned this on the show

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Speaker 5: because I think a lot of people are not aware

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Speaker 5: of how soon this Alvin Bragg case potentially is going

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Speaker 5: to start. Eleven days from now, a little bit over

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Speaker 5: a week now.

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Speaker 2: I thought, actually, today you were going to come in

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Speaker 2: guns blazing, although I knew that as soon as the

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Speaker 2: hornets things were happening. I should have thought, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is where Clay's going to go right back into it.

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Speaker 2: He's going to turn into the skid. But I thought

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Speaker 2: you were going to come in fired up today because

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Speaker 2: we're always very free for him.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: We discussed what our top thoughts are, and then it's

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Speaker 2: once the lights go on and we're on the air,

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Speaker 2: it's whatever we feel like. Uh that hunter Biden is

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Speaker 2: facing these two criminal trials that could start theoretically in June. Right, Yeah.

648
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Speaker 2: The judge nor Aka who Yeah, it's she's your favorite judge.

649
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: I think my favorite hear? My favorite judge is still

650
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: the one that ended the mask mandate on planes. She

651
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: was a Florida judge. I forget her name, I.

652
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: Remember her name.

653
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: She's a hero for all time, ending one of the

654
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: great stupidities of the last I don't know, one hundred years,

655
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: one of the dumbest things in policy that has ever

656
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: been doing. Mess up between bites on a plane. The

657
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: judge is like, I'm sorry, we can't force people to

658
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: act like such morons forever. Anyway, She's amazing. Judge nori

659
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: Aka stood up and did the right thing to your

660
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: point about this, But it looks like Hunter Biden is

661
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: now facing the federal gun charge in June. He could

662
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: also that's in Delaware. He could also have the tax

663
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: case in California. Now I believe these are obviously both

664
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: federal charges, but they're in different federal courts. That's where

665
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: they would be occurring. So Hunter Biden might have two

666
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: criminal trials going on, while Donald Trump has four criminal

667
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: trials going on. Something crazy. Something's not right with the

668
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: Republic right now. Everybody, We've got some issues. But I

669
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: still say I don't think Hunter Biden will spend a

670
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: single day in prison, not one, not a single one.

671
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: What do you think They'll try to get.

672
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Speaker 5: A delay and it depends on the jurisdiction as to

673
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 5: whether or not that delay will be granted. Let me also,

674
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Speaker 5: Judge Catherine Mazelle, Trump appointee in the state of Florida,

675
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 5: is the mask judge that might be beautiful.

676
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Judge Mizelle, the greatest, smartest judge, the best probably of

677
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: all time.

678
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Speaker 5: Maybe the most consequential ruling from a district court judge.

679
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: Think about this for a minute in the twenty first century.

680
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: Can you think of anything else a judge did one

681
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: judge district court level. I'm not talking about Supreme Court.

682
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about circuit court. That ended something that

683
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: everybody nationwide was required to do with one opinion, because remember,

684
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: they were going to appeal and find whether or not

685
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 5: they had the authority. And I don't know what happened

686
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: with that appeal. I don't know if they just dropped

687
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: it because they recognized how politically unstable and unpopular it was.

688
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 5: Without her, I don't know when they would have ended

689
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 5: the mask requirement on airline.

690
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Speaker 2: I actually believe I believe we would still with Biden's president.

691
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: I believe we would still be masking on planes without

692
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: that judge stepping up, because they would say, oh, well,

693
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Speaker 2: it's like you have to go through TSA and it's planes,

694
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: and it's different because people are idiots and they can't

695
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: think for themselves and they have anxiety disorders also known

696
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: as being a registered Democrat, and that's what's going on.

697
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they weren't going to get rid of it,

698
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: so that Judge Judge Mazel Hero forever Judge Nori Aica

699
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: still giving Clay a leg to stand on with his

700
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: faith that there is something to our system, still, that

701
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: the system is not absolutely rotten and corrupt from top

702
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: to bottom. I'm not convinced yet, but Judge norri Aka

703
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: did stand up and do the right thing.

704
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Speaker 5: In the same way Buck that I thought it was

705
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: unlikely that Trump was going to be able to be

706
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: charged with very many of these cases. It looks like

707
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: maybe one's going to be complete before the election. And

708
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 5: we'll see about that with Alvin Bragg. I don't think

709
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: the Hunter Biden cases will be complete, and he may

710
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 5: not even go on trial by the time the election happens.

711
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Even if you were to go on trial. And we'll

712
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: take some of your about this, We've got some thoughts

713
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: on Hunter Biden or any of this, or probably more

714
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: of you on the more calls I think we might

715
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: get on RFK Junior picking Aaron Rodgers and what's what's

716
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: going on here? And so I think that there even

717
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: if they could get one of the trials against Hunter

718
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: Dunn and he got convicted, my sense is they'd be

719
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: able to push back sentencing. All they have to do

720
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: is make sure that he's.

721
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: You're right, he's gonna get pardoned, right, and that's that's

722
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 5: the end result, of.

723
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Speaker 2: Course, So all he has to do is push it

724
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Speaker 2: back so that he doesn't have to show up to

725
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: a federal prison before November, and he doesn't spend a

726
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: day in prison. And that's where this is all going.

727
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I don't even think they'll get the

728
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 5: trials completed before November. But what I texted you and

729
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 5: the crew was to me, we are in uncharted waters

730
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: just in terms of there's no historical precedent to the

731
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 5: lawfare that is underway right now, both with Trump but

732
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 5: also with Hunter Biden and all the chaos that I

733
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Speaker 5: think we are headed for over the next seven or

734
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Speaker 5: eight months.

735
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Speaker 1: If you're listening to two The Year of Impact with

736
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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: We head now down to South Florida. Outside of Judge

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Speaker 5: Eileen Cannon's courtroom is our friend Julie Kelly, who is

739
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 5: in her car because you cannot take cell phones with

740
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Speaker 5: cameras into the courtroom, which is basically every cell phone. Now, Julie,

741
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: we appreciate you going outside of the courtroom. It sounds

742
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 5: like there's been some fireworks. And I want to ask

743
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 5: you about this right off the top, because I saw

744
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 5: your tweet and we've talked about it a little bit

745
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Speaker 5: on the show.

746
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: It sounds like to you that Judge.

747
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: Eileen Cannon is potentially expressing some agreement with the idea

748
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Speaker 5: that Trump is being selectively prosecuted for classified documents based

749
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Speaker 5: on what has been determined by Robert Hurr in his

750
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: Special Council report about Joe Biden's own classified documents. Explain,

751
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Speaker 5: even if it's not been a direct commentary on that,

752
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 5: what you are seeing that makes you believe that?

753
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Speaker 7: Correct, So it was not a subtle suggestion by Judge

754
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 7: Cannon on numerous occasions asking both the Defense Donald Trump

755
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Speaker 7: and his attorney and also Special Council Jacksmiths team about

756
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Speaker 7: historical presidents for criminally charging a former president for taking

757
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 7: home classified or national defense information documents. And she raised

758
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Speaker 7: the term several times, and she just did it again

759
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Speaker 7: this afternoon. That was the morning session. I just came

760
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Speaker 7: out the afternoon session is ongoing and calling this, you know,

761
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Speaker 7: arbitrarily decided arbitrarily prosecute it. And so just to back

762
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Speaker 7: up what the hearing on today is two motions to

763
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Speaker 7: dismiss the case, one based on the unconstitutional vagueness of

764
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 7: the Espionage Act, which represents thirty two counts against Donald Trump,

765
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Speaker 7: and then also protections under the Presidential Records Act. As

766
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Speaker 7: you guys know and your listeners know, that was how

767
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Speaker 7: the origin of this full investigation and then prosecution. I

768
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: don't think she's going to dismiss the case on either one,

769
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Speaker 7: but the feeling was she was using this hearing to

770
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Speaker 7: sort of flesh out how this is so novel and unprecedented,

771
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Speaker 7: especially in light of Robert Hurst's report and then of

772
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Speaker 7: course his testimony this past Tuesday. So Donald Trump shortly

773
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Speaker 7: will be filing a motion to dismiss based on selective

774
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: and vindictive on prosecution. He hasn't yet, but he told

775
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Speaker 7: the court last month that that will be what he's doing.

776
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Speaker 7: And I'm sure there are going to be pulling comments

777
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Speaker 7: and quotes from Robert hurst testimony Tuesday before the House

778
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Speaker 7: Judiciary Committee about the wilful retention by Joe Biden, wilful

779
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Speaker 7: retention of classified documents, including national defense information at his

780
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Speaker 7: various residents and Ton Biden Center four years, knowing that

781
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Speaker 7: he had it, sharing it with a ghostwriter her, but

782
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Speaker 7: then declining to bring charges. So that's going to be

783
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Speaker 7: the next big clash I believe in these proceedings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Julie, just to a layperson, it seems

785
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Speaker 2: like if there is such a thing, if it's possible

786
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: to mount any defense based upon selective prosecution. You have

787
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Speaker 2: two guys running for president, both are accused of having

788
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: classified documents that they are not supposed to have. Put

789
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: aside some of the more specific aspects of that Trump

790
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: was president, Biden was not, et cetera. But Biden was

791
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: effectively excused by her in this case because he says,

792
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Speaker 2: the guys old and he didn't mean it. Well, you know,

793
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump didn't mean it either. It just feels like,

794
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: how could they allow this to happen?

795
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Speaker 6: Right?

796
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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got both presidents. I think that they'd

797
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Speaker 2: be on such stronger ground in their minds, at least

798
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Speaker 2: with this case against Trump, if we hadn't just seen

799
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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden had classified in seven different places.

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Speaker 7: That is exactly right. And it was really interesting to

801
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 7: watch Judge Cannon emphasize and really confronts the government to say, well,

802
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 7: your indictment about wilful retention, the date of that is

803
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Speaker 7: January twentieth of twenty twenty one. So basically she got

804
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Speaker 7: the government Jacksmith's team to concede that yes, the moment

805
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 7: that a president leaves office, and he takes with him

806
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Speaker 7: documents that NEHRA, the Archives or DOJ or whoever considers

807
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 7: presidential records classified materials, national defense information. The minute he

808
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 7: leaves office, he is wilfully violating the Espionage Act. And

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Speaker 7: that was really a key moment for me because it

810
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 7: meant you really don't have to prove wilfulness unless you

811
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 7: can demonstrate that while he was still president, he was

812
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 7: hoarding these materials in boxes and telling people to send

813
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Speaker 7: them tomorrow ago. So what my takeaway was she was saying,

814
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Speaker 7: whether Joe Biden knew he was doing it or not,

815
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Speaker 7: the fact that when he left office in January twenty seventeen,

816
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: he took with him troves of classified material that he

817
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 7: knew he was not supposed to have. Some of it

818
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 7: was sent to the Pen Biden Center, some of it

819
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Speaker 7: was at a rental house in Virginia for two years,

820
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Speaker 7: then his home in Delaware, in a garage, in an office,

821
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Speaker 7: laying all over the place. It really kind of distracted

822
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Speaker 7: or took away from the wilfulness element of these charges.

823
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Speaker 7: What the government is saying, the minute you leave office,

824
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Speaker 7: whether you're president, vice president, whoever, and you have these

825
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 7: materials and boxes, which by the way, you didn't pack.

826
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Speaker 7: Of course Donald Trump didn't pack them either, to Joe Biden,

827
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Speaker 7: and you take them, that represents the wilful retention of

828
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Speaker 7: national defense information, and you are violating the Espionage Act.

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Speaker 7: So I think that sort of tipped off that that

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Speaker 7: would be part of if when she is considering and

831
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Speaker 7: holding a hearing on selective vindictive prosecution, that that is

832
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Speaker 7: going to be a key question that she will want answered.

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Speaker 5: Julie, you also dropped what I think is really a

834
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Speaker 5: significant part of all of these cases, and I have

835
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Speaker 5: not seen it to receive the attention that I think

836
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 5: it deserves. General rule is the Department of Justice doesn't

837
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: want to step itself into a political process, and so

838
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 5: they tend to not be involved with cases that are

839
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 5: occurring in the fall surrounding a election, even maybe making

840
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 5: the decision to do the mar A Lago raid in

841
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 5: the summer of twenty twenty two, if I remember, because

842
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 5: they didn't want to do it in the fall. Okay,

843
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 5: just bring that up for this reason. Jack Smith and

844
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Speaker 5: his federal federal prosecutors, according to your reporting, again, I think.

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Speaker 6: This is a really big deal.

846
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Speaker 5: They said, oh, that Department of Justice rule that we

847
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: generally ascribed to. It only would apply to new indictments,

848
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: It wouldn't apply to actual trials. I read that argument

849
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 5: and it almost made my brain want to explode, because

850
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 5: if you're concerned about the political impacts of indictments, the

851
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: idea that you could actually have a trial and that

852
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: they would try and argue, oh no, this would be

853
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 5: less significant. We just couldn't bring a new indictment in

854
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: the fall, we could have a trial. Even people who

855
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 5: are left wing have to hear that argument and think, boy,

856
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: this is a load of manure. That is even for

857
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 5: the Jack Smith prosecution team, a different level of manure, right.

858
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: I mean, it's crazy to me that that could be

859
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: their argument. That they made it down in South Florida.

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Speaker 7: Not only did Jack Smith make this argument, Attorney General

861
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Speaker 7: Merrick Garland stated very clearly in an interview a few

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Speaker 7: months ago that he considers both of these matters, the

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Speaker 7: classified documents case here in Southern Florida the January sixth,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty election interference case now on hold in Washington.

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Speaker 7: He considers both those matters out of the hands of

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Speaker 7: the Department of Justice. They are now in the federal

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Speaker 7: court system. The judges are responsible for setting the trial

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Speaker 7: The DOJ as soon as it got to the judges,

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Speaker 7: as soon as they started to set trial dates and

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Speaker 7: pre trial schedules. It now is in the hands of

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Speaker 7: the courts. So that's why I keep saying, and you guys,

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Speaker 7: we've talked about this for years now. No one should

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Speaker 7: be surprised if the Supreme Court comes back and upholds

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Speaker 7: lower court rulings that Donald Trump is not immune from prosecution,

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Speaker 7: that he will stand trial in Washington in early September,

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Speaker 7: late September. We know now that the DOJ will not

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Speaker 7: stop it. They've already greenlighted it. And we know that

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Speaker 7: Judge Tanya Chuckkin, if this is put before her late

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Speaker 7: September early October, she has clearly said that the election

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Speaker 7: calendar and politics plays no role in her court room.

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Speaker 7: She's going to pretend none of this is even happening.

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Speaker 7: So it was not just a stark comment made by

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Speaker 7: a course of Special Council Book Marrick Garland himself, which

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Speaker 7: I think is why they timed the indictments when they

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Speaker 7: did so. They brought the classified documents case June a

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Speaker 7: superseding indictment in July twenty twenty three, and a few

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Speaker 7: weeks later August first the January sixth indictment. So they

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Speaker 7: stacked these up with the timing where it would go

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Speaker 7: in the hands of the judges. They knew they would

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Speaker 7: be able to pre trial activity headed up to the

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Speaker 7: Supreme Court on a few questions, and that the DOJ

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Speaker 7: could then come back and say, oop, sorry, it's out

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Speaker 7: of our hands when these go to trial. Doesn't matter

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Speaker 7: if people are voting across the country and Donald Trump

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Speaker 7: is on trial in Washington or southern Florida. Nothing we

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Speaker 7: can do about it.

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Speaker 2: Folks, It's crazy. Julie Kelly. Everybody declassified with Julie Kelly

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Speaker 2: is her substack. Go subscribe to it. Julie, We got

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Speaker 2: more to talk about as this goes along. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: being with.

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Speaker 7: Us, Thanks guys, thanks for having me

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