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Speaker 1: Is America's Voice Live. And welcome to America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve Gurrier, the pulse of the people.

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Speaker 2: Him live, breaking news right now here in Real America's

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Speaker 2: Voice filtered. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic. We're

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Speaker 2: here to take a stand for God and country.

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Speaker 2: It starts now, continuing live coverage now, I'm Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: On a tragic day, a massacre Minneapolis, Minnesota at a

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Speaker 2: Catholic school, a story we've heard before. Sadly, seventeen shot,

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Speaker 2: two killed as a gunman opens fire there. A person

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Speaker 2: appears to be transender.

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Speaker 1: We're digging into that right now, but the person used

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Speaker 1: two names.

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Speaker 2: Robin formerly Robert Westman twenty three had numerous videos up

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Speaker 2: on YouTube on the social media posts with anti Christian rhetoric,

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Speaker 2: anti Trump rhetoric, hateful rhetoric all the way around. He

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Speaker 2: attacked the Annunciation Catholic School in liberal run Minneapolis, Minnesota. Today,

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Speaker 2: again almost twenty people shot. Two of those children, eight

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Speaker 2: being taken to the hospital fourteen children, three adults. The

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Speaker 2: question is what does it all mean. Here's the police

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Speaker 2: chief reporting that the shooter.

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Speaker 1: Had taken his own life. Here it is.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we'll get back to that in just

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Speaker 2: a moment. It is a terrible day for America when

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Speaker 2: you see these. Anytime you see this pass, you get

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Speaker 2: a knot in your stomach, at least I do. And

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Speaker 2: you wonder where you go from here with a shooting

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Speaker 2: like this, We've seen it before. Mental health, out of control,

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Speaker 2: a young shooter gunning down school kids. Apparently his mother

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Speaker 2: was an employee there until a couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: when she retired from Annunciation Catholic.

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Speaker 1: School in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: Story that we don't want to hear repeated very often.

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Speaker 2: Joining me today Minnesota State Representative Elliott Engen and Jason

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Speaker 2: Polinski from three D Response Systems. We have two folks

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Speaker 2: here with a state. Gentlemen, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: Elliot. Let me begin with you. This is your state.

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Speaker 2: This is a Democrat city, which, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: looked up moments ago, the police department eighteen percent short

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Speaker 2: of what it should be to have a full compliment

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Speaker 2: seven thirteen. They're below six hundred. There were other shootings overnight,

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Speaker 2: a shooting involving seven people, another murder a bit after that,

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Speaker 2: a violent night in Minneapolis. Was the police department capable

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Speaker 2: of responding to this emergency? That's question number one.

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Speaker 5: To answer your question, Yeah, we are understaffed. We need

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Speaker 5: more police in Minneapolis. There underneath that that number that

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Speaker 5: you'd listed as the city charter mandate. So we need

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Speaker 5: to make sure that we we recruit and retain our

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Speaker 5: police officers. And this is on the backs of the

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Speaker 5: defund the police movement, which we all know about. But

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Speaker 5: the first responders who showed up to the scene after

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Speaker 5: this tragedy, they have done an amazing job. And there'd

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Speaker 5: be a lot more, you know, in that that death count,

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Speaker 5: or potentially that that count of folks who are fighting

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Speaker 5: for their lives right now, which stands at fourteen children

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Speaker 5: if it wasn't for the actions that they'd taken today.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen children, three adults.

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Speaker 2: The question for a lot of us here is how

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Speaker 2: we stand unprepared. Again, we're in a nation, we're special

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Speaker 2: would think, I'm not going to second guess all of

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Speaker 2: that now, But Elliott, how can we how can we

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Speaker 5: So I'll start by saying this, because that's the question

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Speaker 5: shouldn't stop asking that question the moment that this new

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Speaker 5: if every single time that this happens, there's a week

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Speaker 5: changes about gun control. You know, you'll hear the left

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Speaker 5: say it's all the guns. We need to do more

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Speaker 5: And many people are obviously lobiding gun owners like myself, that's.

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Speaker 1: Not the issue.

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Speaker 5: We'll have discussions about a mental health for a moment

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Speaker 5: with their kid gone. So it's time for action. It's

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Speaker 5: time for politicians to set aside the talk, to set

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Speaker 1: These kids need concealment.

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Speaker 5: Covering communication in schools like this if God forbid that

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Speaker 5: tragedy occurs in their school. And we should preface this

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Speaker 5: by saying we should pray for the families who are

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Speaker 5: going through this right now and the community because this

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Speaker 2: We need to be proactive, proactive, not reactive. We need

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Speaker 2: We're going to get back to that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But Jason Polinski three D response systems. That is your job.

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Speaker 2: Your job is to protect people. Nothing protected these children

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Speaker 2: or these adults today again, two children killed, fourteen wounded,

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Speaker 2: the killer who apparently took their own life. What was

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Speaker 2: your first response when you see something like this? What

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Speaker 2: was your first reaction?

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Speaker 6: Sir angry, extremely angry. And I can tell you I

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Speaker 6: just retired from law enforcement after thirty years. I used

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Speaker 6: to be a school cop. I was active shooter instructor

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Speaker 6: for two decades. Nobody was doing anything to fix it.

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Speaker 6: And everything Elliott just spoke about right now has been

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Speaker 6: the same conversation for the last twenty five years. And

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Speaker 6: we are literally living in a mindset of insanity that

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Speaker 6: this washerance repeat cycle and we keep throwing measures at

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Speaker 6: these places to keep people safe, but we're not looking

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Speaker 6: at who are the stakeholders. It's the kids, the teachers

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Speaker 6: and the first responders run height fight. I refuse to

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Speaker 6: teach it, it doesn't work, the school doesn't support the response,

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Speaker 6: and we got to give these kids the tools. And

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Speaker 6: our system is basically a multi layered, comprehensive system that

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Speaker 6: provides the tools to the stakeholders. And that's what's missing.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jason, let me ask you this because doctor John Lott,

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Speaker 2: who appears on this program on a regular basis, he

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Speaker 2: studied this in the schools where the staff and faculty

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Speaker 2: are allowed to carry concealed. There's not been a school shooting,

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Speaker 2: pick them. They don't have mass school shootings because they

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Speaker 2: have armed guards on staff. So if you have something

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Speaker 2: having armed guards, why wouldn't every school in America have that.

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Speaker 6: There's a flip tied to that that I don't think

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Speaker 6: people look into a whole lot. Law enforcement, we have

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Speaker 6: something called qualified immunity where if we're in a shooting,

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Speaker 6: they can't come after a civilly we're kind of protected.

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Speaker 6: The other angles with the problems with putting a gun

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Speaker 6: going to give them an option back insurance rates, gun

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Speaker 6: than just the concept that goes into that. My full

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Speaker 6: I like the fact of license, piece of resource.

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Speaker 1: To ask you about that. Yeah, yeah, I have to ask.

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Speaker 2: About that because look, whether it's Ohio, Kentucky, Texas, any school,

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Speaker 2: any school in America that has concealed carry, and you

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Speaker 2: don't know who it is staff, faculty, could be, the janitor,

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Speaker 2: They know who to target, and Columbine you had special

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Speaker 1: But you don't agree with.

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Speaker 6: That, not totally. No, it's not a complete system.

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Speaker 1: Part of the system, fair enough, let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: Let me switch back ally, let me ask.

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Speaker 2: You about this about in Minnesota, it's called the Shield Act.

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Speaker 2: The Shield Act is a piece of legislation that might

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Speaker 1: What would you say about that?

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Speaker 5: So I'd tell you that rate. After I was elected.

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Speaker 5: many years before that. And I walked through a school

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Speaker 5: lot of viewers who are wondering to themselves, well, what

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Speaker 5: after that crisis happens, you need to go into lockdown quick.

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Speaker 5: So you give a police crisis response button in every

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Speaker 5: have a lockdown room where they are viewing in real

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Speaker 5: provides those resources to schools. It would cost less than

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Speaker 5: most of the URF football fields that these schools are

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Speaker 5: also installing, and it would protect these kids if God forbid,

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Speaker 5: the worst were to happen in their building. And you're

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Speaker 5: probably asking yourself, well, what are the chances of that happening,

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Speaker 5: and is this a good expensive resources? The answer is yes,

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Speaker 5: of course it is, because on average here in Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: each school district experiences over nine critical incidents per year

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Speaker 5: and has to go into lockdown. So this issue isn't

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Speaker 5: going away. We need to listen to folks who actually

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, yes or no? Does every

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Speaker 2: It's a conversation that has to be had, and we

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Speaker 1: We can't keep doing this. Thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: This is America's Voice.

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Speaker 2: a tragic school shooting Minneapolis, Minnesota Annunciate annunciation Catholic school. Look,

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Speaker 2: How many incidents of this do we have to deal with?

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Speaker 2: Mark Harris of North Carolina's eighth congressional district, Congressman, thank

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Speaker 1: We know this. They don't have school shootings because they

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Speaker 7: First of all, thank you for having me today. And

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Speaker 7: The last segment pointed that out very clearly, as you

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, as predictable as it is, Congressman, I mean,

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Speaker 1: We can do this.

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Speaker 2: We have the ability we had, Like I said, maybe

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Speaker 7: Well, I think you're going to see continue to see

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Speaker 2: That well issue absolutely. Donald Trump said yesterday in the

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Speaker 1: None of that's acceptable.

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Speaker 2: There is rumor coming out of Washington, by the way, Congressman,

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Speaker 7: The one thing that we're seeking to do in Washington

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Speaker 1: We can do better, Congressman, we must do better. Thank

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Speaker 1: Tommy, good to have you back on the program.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, Joe Biden expanded this premium tax credit.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, sure, So, the premium tax Credit was established

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Speaker 2: So it was called the Affordable Care Act, Tommy, the

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Speaker 8: fraud and abuse. It's about five billion dollars every single

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Speaker 8: year to people that are claiming the credit that have

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Speaker 8: no business taking the credit. So we think that there's

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Speaker 8: a good opportunity to let it expire and let's try

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Speaker 8: and do healthcare reform that's a real repeal and replace

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Speaker 8: as quickly as possible. And you know, I think when

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Speaker 8: we say this expires at the end of the year,

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Speaker 8: why are we talking about this now. Well, there's a

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Speaker 8: concern that Republicans are going to be working with Democrats

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Speaker 8: in September to try and extend this tax credit, possibly indefinitely.

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Speaker 8: That would be a major mistake. That one, we shouldn't

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Speaker 8: be continue to subsidize Obamacare, and we shouldn't continue a

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Speaker 8: really poor policy enacted by Joe Biden just four years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a policy that continues to constants.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't have the numbers here.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe you do, and I don't mean to

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Speaker 2: throw you a curve ball here, but how many people

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Speaker 2: were without insurance before the so called Affordable Care Because

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Speaker 2: the one thing that bill didn't do was address affordability

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Speaker 2: on any level that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 9: It.

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Speaker 2: It was a bone for the insurance companies in many regards.

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Speaker 2: But how many people were uninsured when the Affordable Care

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Speaker 2: Act went through and how many people are on insured

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Speaker 2: in America today?

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Speaker 8: I don't have those numbers on me, but I think

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Speaker 8: the people that did get insurance, they got insurance because

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Speaker 8: they were put on Medicaid exchanges. That's government sponsored healthcare.

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Speaker 8: And we want people to obviously have healthcare, we think

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Speaker 8: they should have it through their employer.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 8: Medicaid is becoming a trillion dollar program. So when you

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Speaker 8: add up all of these benefits that are from Obamacare,

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Speaker 8: you have a trillion dollars on Medicaid plus another eighty

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Speaker 8: billion dollars that's taken through the premium tax credit. We

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Speaker 8: think it's just way too much large s coming from

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Speaker 8: the federal government into the healthcare system. We think a

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Speaker 8: better solution is for government to take a step back

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Speaker 8: and let the private market actually step up offer insurance.

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Speaker 8: And we actually think it could be done at a

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Speaker 8: more affordable rate than what's been happening. We think the

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Speaker 8: answer is less government involvement in the healthcare space. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: our friends on the other side say things are working

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Speaker 8: just great and we need more government involvement in there,

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Speaker 8: and we just don't think that's the right approach.

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Speaker 2: I don't either, and so it concerns me that some

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Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats would get behind the idea of extending this.

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Speaker 1: What do people need to do?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we think people start need to start

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Speaker 8: paying attention. Call your member of Congress and say, I'm

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Speaker 8: watching this. We should not be one continuing to subsidize Obamacare,

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Speaker 8: and we should not be continuing covid era programs that

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Speaker 8: benefit primarily wealthy people through the premium tax credit. It

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Speaker 8: expires at the end of the year. There's a real

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Speaker 8: opportunity now to let it expire.

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Speaker 2: All right, Tommy Iella from the National Taxpayers Union, as always,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being here. I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: about students finding favor in Southern universities. Is those institutions

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Speaker 2: value teaching based on a structured curriculum then trying to indoctrinate.

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Speaker 2: There's some details about that. Is it better to go

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Speaker 2: to a Southern school? Maybe? All right, we're keeping an

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Speaker 2: eye and everything happening in Minneapolis following that shooting today.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a live press conference update coming

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Speaker 2: sometime in the next few minutes. We're told if that happens,

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Speaker 2: we're going to take you there as it happens to

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Speaker 2: get the latest on that shooting. Meanwhile, students in this

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Speaker 2: country are choosing Southern universities more often than schools in

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Speaker 2: the Northeast and elsewhere. Northeastern high school students going to

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Speaker 2: Southern colleges. It's nearly double in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I learned to.

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Speaker 2: Speak Southern in college. They have special classes so you

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Speaker 2: could speak Southern. No, I'm just kidding, But Zachary Marshall

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Speaker 2: is here from Campus Reformed. He's the editor in chief.

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Speaker 2: I'm not joking about that. Zachary, do you speak Southern No,

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Speaker 2: I'm a.

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Speaker 10: Native New Yorker and I'm proudy Yankee, so I don't

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Speaker 10: speak Southern, and I am right to admit that Southern

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Speaker 10: universities are surging and popularity.

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Speaker 1: They really are.

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Speaker 2: Auburn, Alabama, Texas, A and M. You pick it, any

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Speaker 2: university in Florida. I mean, just go pick it. Why

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it culture? Is it weather? Is it both?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's absolutely culture. We saw this trend start twenty

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Speaker 10: years ago in a small way. Students want warmer weather,

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Speaker 10: they want good football. But then we had COVID happen,

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Speaker 10: and we saw the other universities, by and large, hat better,

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Speaker 10: more moderate COVID protocols. You have the BLM riots and

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Speaker 10: transgender ideology and the anti SPAMIC protests. You saw the

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Speaker 10: Northeastern universities, those typical elite universities, the top the rankings

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Speaker 10: every year get more and more extreme and more and

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Speaker 10: more dangerous for students. Meanwhile, Southern universities were more focused

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Speaker 10: on rational, common sense solutions, and because of that, those

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Speaker 10: students had a better experience, so they were able to

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Speaker 10: realize that better decision making and better run administrations do

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Speaker 10: have an effect on campus culture. That's what American high

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Speaker 10: school students are responding to.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, the weather doesn't hurt. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a native New Yorker.

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Speaker 2: Let's see New York in February, or say southern Florida.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a hard choice, really, is it.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm on the losing side, I admit that freely.

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Speaker 10: But it also helps that, you know, the Florida Universities

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Speaker 10: Ben Sass, when he was president of that university system,

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Speaker 10: said we're not going to tolerate antison protests. Were can

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Speaker 10: tolerate violent protests. It wasn't a very big lift for

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Speaker 10: him to say those things. But it's also way way

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Speaker 10: more than anyone at Harvard or U Penn or my

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Speaker 10: Tea did. At the same time. They said it was

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Speaker 10: context dependent. They refused to punish students who are protesting

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Speaker 10: against Jews. So there is just a common sense culture

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Speaker 10: down there that I even experienced as a professor at

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Speaker 10: the University of Kentucky that doesn't exist at the Northeastern schools.

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Speaker 10: You know where I grew up, where I got my education.

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Speaker 10: I went to NYU, and that school is vastly different

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Speaker 10: today than it was eighteen years ago. It's a different

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Speaker 10: world because those elite universities let fringe faculty take over

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Speaker 10: those campuses in a way Southern universities never have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hippies from the sixties wanted into the into

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Speaker 2: the lecture hall and took over with all their strange ideas.

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Speaker 2: What about faith, Well, what role does faith play in

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Speaker 2: going to Southern schools compared to NYU and others like it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, faith is celebrated and a lot of Southern schools.

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Speaker 10: We saw revivals happening at Baylor, for example, last academic year.

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Speaker 10: Thousands of students are embracing faith, are celebrating and publicly

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Speaker 10: and this is a great divide in this country. We

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Speaker 10: are seeing, you know, for all of the gen zers

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Speaker 10: that are going to do purple hair and piercings and

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Speaker 10: different pronouns, we're also seeing a bunch of others become

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Speaker 10: more conservative, learn, you know, find religion. You know, in

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Speaker 10: spite of the popular culture that you know, promotes secularism,

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Speaker 10: that promotes a secular, atheistic way to look at the world,

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Speaker 10: and that turned towards faith is not only tolerated but

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Speaker 10: also celebrated on Southern campuses in a way you wouldn't

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Speaker 10: see the Northeast Christianity religion is ridiculed and made fun

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Speaker 10: of at those morally universities we have, you know, campus

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Speaker 10: re form. We have published lots of articles on Jesus

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Speaker 10: being the subject of queer art and queer art exhibitions,

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Speaker 10: for example. You don't see that making fun of of

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Speaker 10: Christianity the same way at the schools, whether it's Clemson

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Speaker 10: or Emery or Vanderbilt. That's not to say also of

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Speaker 10: the universities are perfect, but by and large they are

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Speaker 10: just better run institutions because the toleration is much higher

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Speaker 10: and patriotism is much higher there than it is in

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Speaker 10: other places in the country.

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Speaker 2: Actual tolerance, yeah, justifiable tolerance, real conversations. If you disagree

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Speaker 2: about something, you put it out there. What you're saying

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Speaker 2: is the kids in those lecture halls I mentioned aren't

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Speaker 2: afraid to speak up at the places you mentioned, Auburn

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Speaker 2: or Vanderbilt or Texas, A and M or whatever it

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Speaker 2: might be.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good step forward.

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Speaker 2: Zachary Marshall, always appreciate you being here, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks there. You have it all right.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, a lot of turmoil in the

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Speaker 2: markets these days. Let's see, Bitcoin took it down the nose.

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Speaker 2: The market went up, then it went down. Gold always

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Speaker 2: a stable place to be. We'll talk about precious metals

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Speaker 2: after the break here on America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems.

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Speaker 2: That it's been a little volatile out there in the

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Speaker 2: market over the last few days. The market went up,

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Speaker 2: the market came down. Bitcoin went from like one twenty

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Speaker 2: three down to one oh nine. He was one o eight. Man,

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Speaker 2: it took it down. The chin ethereum went way down

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Speaker 2: as well. So it looks like these virtual currency he's

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Speaker 2: a scryptocurrency having a bit of a rough ride today.

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Speaker 2: Crypto softening. You know, it didn't get soft gold. It's

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Speaker 2: up to thirty three ninety five today. If you had listen,

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Speaker 2: you might be a little better shape today.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to wag my finger at you, but

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Speaker 2: that's the way it is. Klip Patrick joining me from

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Speaker 2: Birch Gold. He's been telling us this for a couple

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Speaker 2: of years now. Bet on the safe bet. The safe

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Speaker 2: bet is gold, Philip. Nice to see you again.

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Speaker 4: Very good to see you as well, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I mean crypto man. Talk about whiplash.

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Speaker 2: It goes up to one twenty three, it drops to

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Speaker 2: one oh nine, it's back at like one to eleven today.

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Speaker 1: Is bitcoin a look?

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Speaker 2: Gold steadily steadily selling. Gold does not drop below thirty

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Speaker 2: three hundred in a while, so it's been very stable.

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Speaker 2: All these others are going up and down whiplashing. Gold

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Speaker 2: is steady and it's up to almost thirty four hundred

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Speaker 2: now as of this moment. What can you tell me

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, this is what we've always said. Gold is

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Speaker 4: a stable anset.

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Speaker 11: You know that the historical argument against gold has always

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Speaker 11: been been performance right relative to other things.

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Speaker 4: It's not that argument is out the window.

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Speaker 11: This entry. Gold has doubled the performance of both the

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Speaker 11: Dow and the S and P. And of course in

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Speaker 11: this climate when we have big economic problems that the

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Speaker 11: administration are trying to work through, it is a very

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Speaker 4: It's up over thirty percent this year.

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Speaker 11: We've hit all time highs many times this year, more

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Speaker 4: Continuing that steady ascent.

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Speaker 11: Nothing in terms of fundamentals is suggesting a slowdown.

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Speaker 4: So my message certainly hasn't changed.

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Speaker 11: I think we all need some protection and Gold is

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Speaker 11: the best way to do it in this.

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Speaker 1: Climate goal is the best way to do it.

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Speaker 2: And if you want to find out more, we need

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Speaker 2: to go to Birch Gold Text America to ninety eight,

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Speaker 2: ninety eight, ninety eight Philip Patrick Wlafdad, you back again,

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Speaker 2: but we have to go.

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Speaker 1: To Minnesota for monument.

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Speaker 2: Go to America ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety eight text that.

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Speaker 1: You can learn more about Birch Gold.

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Speaker 2: We're going to jump to that live of that now

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis finding that shooting this morning.

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Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls at the microphone.

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Speaker 9: Come to these and say, these unspeakable tragedies.

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Speaker 1: Are there.

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Speaker 9: Words for these types of incidents because they should not happen,

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Speaker 9: and there's no words that are going to ease the

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Speaker 9: pain of the families today. On behalf of all the

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Speaker 9: people of Minnesota, our deepest sympathies. A wish that any

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Speaker 9: of these words would make what you're feeling now better,

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Speaker 9: but it won't. A place that's founded on community, founded

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Speaker 9: on service, founded on families. I'd like to have special

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Speaker 9: thank you to the mayor and the team in Minneapolis

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Speaker 9: and the Minneapolis Police Department, Knefin County Sheriff's Office, Minnesota

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Speaker 9: State Patrol, the BCA, so many agencies, our federal partners

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Speaker 9: in the FBI, the first responders, and the heroic work

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Speaker 9: that's happening now as we speak at multiple medical locations,

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Speaker 9: including Hennebon County Medical Center where most of our children

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Speaker 9: were transported to receive the life saving care. The thoughts

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Speaker 9: and prayers and the hopes and the support that we

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Speaker 9: need to give them in this moment too is critical.

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Speaker 9: Speaking with all the people here and grateful to our

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Speaker 9: federal partners. Senator Klobashar speaking earlier this morning and receiving

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Speaker 9: a call from President Trump, who was with his leadership

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Speaker 9: team of the Attorney General and the Vice President, expressing

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Speaker 9: their deef condolences amongst the war that happened in an

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Speaker 9: offer to provide the support to the folks here in

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Speaker 9: Minnesota of what's needed. So there's a lot of cameras

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Speaker 9: here and unfortunately we've been through these types of things.

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Speaker 9: They will be gone at some point, all of you.

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Speaker 9: You have to you have to do your jobs. But

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Speaker 9: what happened here today will not be gone. Minnesotan's will

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Speaker 9: not step away. We'll stand with this community, will redouble

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Speaker 9: ourselves to do the best we can to understand what

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Speaker 9: we can do to prevent any parent from having to

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Speaker 9: receive the calls they receive today from any school dedicated

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Speaker 9: to children having to respond to a situation that, as

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Speaker 9: we said, is unthinkable, but it's all too common, not

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Speaker 9: just in Minnesota, but across this country. It's Minnesota's day

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Speaker 9: to day, and it's my strongest desire that no state,

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Speaker 9: no community, no school ever experiences a day like this.

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Speaker 9: So I ask the rest of folks around the country

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Speaker 9: who are watching, keep us in your thoughts and prayers,

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Speaker 9: but also keep us in the thoughts for action, keep

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Speaker 9: us in the ideas that we can work together. And

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Speaker 9: it's on these days like this I think and I

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Speaker 9: hope we can hold on to it. We are unified

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Speaker 9: as a community. Everybody across the country today's part of

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Speaker 9: the Annunciation Parish and they're with those families with that

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Speaker 1: Thank you go.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the morning. We have seen this extraordinary Minneapolis family

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Speaker 3: step up in thousands of different ways, people with strength, resilience, compassion,

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Speaker 3: and love for the families that have been forever impacted

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Speaker 3: by this heinous act.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: We want to make sure that we're doing everything possible

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Speaker 3: special thank you, and we are so grateful to all

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Speaker 3: of the faculty and the teachers and Nunciation. The way

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Speaker 3: that they act during severe threat and danger was nothing

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Speaker 3: short of heroic. This is a tragic and horrible event

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Speaker 3: that would ever should never occur, and it would have

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Speaker 3: been all the more tragic and horrible had they not

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Speaker 3: stepped in at times, perhaps put themselves in danger to

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Speaker 3: protect others. As horrible as this has been, it could

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Speaker 3: have been far worse. I'm grateful for our law enforcement partners,

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Speaker 3: our police officers in the Minneapolis Police Department and other

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Speaker 3: law enforcement agencies well beyond that step up that answered

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Speaker 3: the call to make sure that they were running towards

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You are so appreciative of your service to a principal,

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Speaker 3: Devoor and your whole team. The ethic that you have showed,

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Speaker 3: the love that you show, it's flat out credible. And

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Speaker 3: at the same time, look, we need to be doing

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Speaker 3: more than talking. It can't just be words. There needs

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Speaker 3: to be action. And when we look, we need to

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Speaker 3: be doing more than talking. It can't just be words.

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Speaker 3: There needs to be action. And when we have seen

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Speaker 3: school shooting after school shooting, when we have seen churches

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Speaker 3: get shot up by horrible actors, I think the impetus

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Speaker 3: has to be on all of us as leaders to

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Speaker 3: do a whole lot more to recognize that we've got

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Speaker 3: more guns in this country than we have people. And

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Speaker 3: it's on all of us to recognize the truth and

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Speaker 3: the reality that we can't just say that this shouldn't

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Speaker 3: happen again and then allow it to happen again and again.

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Speaker 3: Beyond that, it's on all of us. And I have

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Speaker 3: heard about a whole lot of hate that's being directed

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Speaker 3: at our trans community. Anybody who is using this as

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Speaker 3: using this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community

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Speaker 3: or any other community out there, has lost their sense

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Speaker 3: of common humanity. We should not be operating out of

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Speaker 3: a place of hate for anyone. We should be operating

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Speaker 3: from a.

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Speaker 1: Place of love.

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Speaker 3: For our kids. Kids died today. This needs to be

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Speaker 3: about them. This needs to be wrapping our arms around

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Speaker 3: these families with every bit of love that we can

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Speaker 3: possibly show. And I know that our Minneapolis family and

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Speaker 3: well beyond is prepared to.

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Speaker 1: Do exactly that.

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Speaker 3: And so my message to everyone out there is again,

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Speaker 3: these families are experiencing some acute pain right now, but

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Speaker 3: don't just think of ease as somebody else's kids, think

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Speaker 3: of your own. Let's make sure that we're acting now

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Speaker 3: to not just say it's never happening again, but in

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Speaker 3: sure it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Our Chief of Police, who's.

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Speaker 3: Been working tirelessly throughout the day, along with again a

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Speaker 3: number of different law enforcement agencies, investigators, federal partners, state partners,

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Speaker 3: thank you Senator Clovishar for being here, been working tirelessly,

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Speaker 3: and i'd like to invite him up to give some

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Speaker 3: more of the details that have come up.

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Speaker 1: Chief.

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Speaker 12: My name is Brian O'Hara, b R I A N

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Speaker 12: O apostrophe h A R A. I am the Minneapolis

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Speaker 12: Police Chief. Good afternoon, and thank you all for your patience.

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Speaker 12: As we continue to gather the facts in this investigation

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Speaker 12: into this truly unthinkable tragedy that happened here earlier today,

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Speaker 12: I want to make sure that we are providing the

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Speaker 12: most accurate information possible, particularly as we speak around our victims.

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Speaker 12: At this point, we know we have a total of

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Speaker 12: nineteen victims from this tragedy. Two were young children ages

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Speaker 12: eight and ten that were sitting in the pews at

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Speaker 12: mass when they were shot and killed. They were pronounced

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Speaker 12: deceased on the scene. There were another fourteen children between

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Speaker 12: the ages of six and fifteen that were injured by gunfire.

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Speaker 12: There were also three adults in their eighties that were

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Speaker 12: parishioners here attending mass that were also shot in this incident.

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Speaker 12: The families of all of the children that have been

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Speaker 12: affected have been notified. The coward that shot these victims

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Speaker 12: took his own life in the rear of the church.

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Speaker 12: That coward has been identified as twenty three year old

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Speaker 12: Robin Westman. No prior criminal history. As to the weapons

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Speaker 12: used to perpetrate this horrific attack, there was a rifle,

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Speaker 12: a shotgun, and a pistol. All three had been lawfully

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Speaker 12: purchased by the shooter. At this stage, we believe that

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Speaker 12: the shooter had acted alone. There is no indication of

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Speaker 12: other suspects directly involved in carrying out this attack. Our

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Speaker 12: investigators are working with other agencies in the process of

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Speaker 12: executing four search warrants. One is for the church itself

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Speaker 12: where this crime occurred. The other three are residences nearby

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Speaker 12: in the metro that are related to this shooter. Additional

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Speaker 12: firearms are being recovered from those three residential locations as

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Speaker 12: we speak. We are also aware of a manifesto that

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Speaker 12: the shooter had time to be released on YouTube. Manifest

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Speaker 12: still appeared to show him at the scene and included

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Speaker 12: some disturbing writings. That content has since been taken down

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Speaker 12: with the assistance of the FBI, and it now remains

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Speaker 12: under active review.

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Speaker 2: By watching the live update from Minneapolis, we heard from

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Speaker 2: Governor Wallas community, the Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis, who

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Speaker 2: spent a good portion of his time demanding more gun

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Speaker 2: control in America.

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Speaker 1: Very predictable.

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Speaker 2: Also defending the transgender community, also very predictable. He's been

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Speaker 2: a longtime defender of the transgender community. But we've seen

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Speaker 2: too many of these incidents now. One looked no further

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Speaker 2: than Nashville for a similar incident not that long ago.

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Speaker 2: Why the targeting of Catholic schools, Why the ignoring of

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Speaker 2: mental health issues in America.

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Speaker 1: These are critical problems. It cannot be ignored.

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Speaker 2: You cannot embrace and coddle these sorts of problems because

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Speaker 2: When you do well, the results.

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Speaker 1: Can be horrific. We'll continue to.

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Speaker 2: Follow the story throughout the rest of the day here

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Speaker 2: on Real America's Voice. I appreciate your time here today

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Speaker 2: on a very difficult day, but we do appreciate your patronage.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking again soon. Bowling is coming up next here

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Speaker 2: on Real America's Voice. Until then, my friends,