1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: day Impure normal podcast network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. Welcome 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts and 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast am employees of premier networks, 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved ones have 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: survived physical death and so will we Welcome to Shades 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife Today. In our time together, I want 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: to talk about a few different things, like how many 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: people in the world do you think, percentage wise believe 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: in the afterlife? Also, I want to talk about different 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: cultures and how they experience the near death experience. Also, 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: why is it so difficult for us humans to talk 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: about the afterlife? I want to introduce you to a 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: boy named Christian who saw a wizard in his near 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: death experience, and also a Christian boy, and how he 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: experienced heaven. To start, I want to talk about our 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: own soul power. As I record this, I'm in my 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: house overlooking the backyard, and I have to tell you 27 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I have some very happy birds and squirrels. Of course, 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I feed them, and I have plenty of bird feeders, 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and they eat the scraps from the ground. The cold 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: weather is coming very quickly here to the Northeast, to 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the United States, and by the amount of bird seed 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: that I put out every day, I am convinced the 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: birds and the squirrels are hoarding food for the winter. 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I feel like animals live very much in the present moment, 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and they're very aware of their surroundings. In our area, 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: there's what's called a Cooper's hawk that praise on small 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: birds and squirrels. Now, I don't know how the birds 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and squirrels know it, but when there's one of these 39 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: hawks nearby, everything comes to a standstill. You don't see 40 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: a bird in sight, and all the squirrels remain perfectly still. 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: All animals live in the moment, even our pets. I 42 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: don't have any indoor pets right now, but I remember 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: having dogs and they were always so excited when the 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: family came home. And that's one of the things we 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: love about dogs, isn't it unconditional love. I heard a 46 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: comedian talking about pets not having egos, and this really 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: made me laugh out loud. He says, they aren't sitting 48 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: around talking to other us complaining. I never knew my dad. 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I can't help but wonder if we human beings didn't 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: spend so much time in our heads worrying about the 51 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: future or thinking about the past, what we could have, 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: should have, would have done differently? What kind of instincts 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: might we have. My medium friends teach that we all 54 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: have soul, power, gut instinct, psychic and mediumistic abilities, and 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the fastest way to strengthen them is to sit in 56 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: the power. The power being the divine presence that you 57 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: or I believe in, to quiet our minds and just 58 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: be still in that presence. If you're anything like me 59 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: right now, you have a smartphone, a tablet or a 60 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: computer nearby, and you know what it's like right when 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: there's very little battery life left in it. We freak 62 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: out looking for the closest plug to plug in. What 63 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: if we learned to treat ourselves in the same fashion, 64 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: once a day, for ten or fifteen minutes or more, 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: we plug in. What do you think that would do 66 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: for your soul? Have you seen the movie March of 67 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: the Penguins The Great Emperor. Penguins can walk seventy miles 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: that's over a hundred kilometers to their breeding spot each year. 69 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: And get this, most of them arrived to the location 70 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: on the same day. Equally as fascinating or the salmon 71 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: that go to die where they were born. They can 72 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: swim hundreds, if not thousands of miles. How do they remember? 73 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: How do they know? The older I get, I can't 74 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: even remember what I had for lunch yesterday. Our ancient 75 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: indigenous people were very much like the salmon and the penguins. 76 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: Each year, groups of tribes would come together and they'd 77 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: meet at one location, often showing up on the very 78 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: same day. If the people who came before us had 79 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: this kind of instinct, do you think we have it 80 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: or do you think we lost it? Or do you 81 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: think we just don't need it and we don't use it? 82 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: But it's still a part of us. I know what 83 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: I believe, and I know what I've witnessed. The communication 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: with the so called dead is real, but it's one 85 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: of our soul's abilities that we need to train and harness. 86 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: It's much like a muscle to be strengthened. So before 87 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: we get into the other talk, I want to just 88 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: to help us all harness a little of this magic, 89 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: and we're going to build a foundation for miracles. And 90 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: yes I said it, miracles. Whether you call the miracles 91 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: or synchronicities, there are some things that are way too 92 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: much of a coincidence to be a matter of chance. Also, 93 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: as we record this, we're going into a time of 94 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: year that human beings tend to be more sad and gloomy. 95 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: It'll be intertime where I am. The holiday times are tough, birthdays, anniversaries, 96 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: the older we get, and especially if our loved ones 97 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: have passed or our life just isn't as we'd imagine 98 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: it be, we do get sad and we do get gloomy, 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: depending on where we live in the time of the year, 100 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: we experience these dark days. You know, Sunlight makes us 101 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: feel awake and alive, and too much darkness can really 102 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: have a negative effect. There are two tricks that I 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: have to share with you to wake up your soul 104 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: power and make this foundation for synchronicities for good things 105 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: happening and perhaps even miracles. One is gratitude. The other 106 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: is sitting in the power. But be mindful. Though we 107 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: do have an ego, your ego is going to judge, 108 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: and is probably already judging everything. I am saying, let's 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: all take a second right now and pay at ten 110 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: sin to that little voice that's in your head. Right now, 111 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to stop talking for just a moment, and 112 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to the voice. Now. If 113 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: you've just heard what little voice, that's the voice. It's 114 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: a voice that tells you you aren't good enough, smart enough, 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: young enough, thin enough. It's the voice that tells you 116 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: to be scared, to procrastinate and say negative things to yourself. 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Let's be truthful. You're pretty hard on yourself, aren't you. 118 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: I know this because I am too. We might say, oh, 119 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: we should be doing this, Oh we shouldn't be doing that. 120 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: We should on ourselves far too much, and we make 121 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: ourselves wrong. We would never say the things we say 122 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: to ourselves to another person. But why do we say 123 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: negative things to ourselves. Well, that's not us, that's our ego, 124 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: that's the little voice. It's not going to support you 125 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: and having your dreams come true. How many people do 126 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: you know that stay in bad relationships or unfulfilling careers 127 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: because their voice convinces them not to take a risk. 128 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: There's an expression that I've heard better the devil you 129 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: know than the devil you don't know. But why do 130 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: we need a devil at all? The ego is trying 131 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: to convince us not to believe, to be scared of 132 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: what might happen, and not to take chances. Here's why 133 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you this because it might just try to 134 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: convince you that what I'm going to say next is airy, 135 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: fairy New age nonsense. Give it a try, though, and 136 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: the results might just blow your mind in a good way. 137 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: The first part is gratitude. It's handy to have a 138 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: notepad or journal by your bed, and the first thing 139 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: in the morning, when we're prone to wake up maybe 140 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: not so positively, is to write down ten things that 141 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: you're grateful for and really feel the gratitude when you 142 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: write it down. The magic is in feeling it and 143 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: then also pay attention to your day and before you 144 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: go to bed at night, just kind of review your 145 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: day and how was it, right down the good things 146 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: that happened and the things that you're grateful for. There's 147 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: a great book called The Magic by Rhonda Byrne, who 148 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: wrote the book The Secret. In it is a twenty 149 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: eight day gratitude practice. I did it with some friends 150 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: of mine. We all did at the very same time, 151 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: and we all reported back that we had one of 152 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: the best, most fun most synchronicities, most great things happen, 153 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: and we loved it. But why don't I do this 154 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: every twenty eight days? Because I too have an ego 155 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: which likes to focus on the negative instead of the positive. 156 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: The other practice is sitting in the power. Let's again 157 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: imagine our cell phones. We need to regularly plug them 158 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: in for them to work right, and the longer times 159 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: they are plugged in, things get uploaded and downloaded, keeping 160 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: the phone in top working order. There's other benefits of 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: sitting in the power like reduced stress, improved memory, increased attention, 162 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: stronger will power, better sleep, less pain, lower blood pressure, 163 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: less anxiety, a less depression, and greater compassion. But It 164 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: also strengthens your intuition, psychic and medium abilities. Our diseased 165 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: loved ones have no problem seeing us and hearing us, 166 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be nice if we could feel their presence, 167 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: to notice signs coming from them, To have those moments 168 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: of feeling their love for you all possible when we 169 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: sit in the power. Just like going to a gym 170 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and starting to lift weights, you don't won't become a 171 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: bodybuilder overnight. Right, Good things take time, but it's worth it. 172 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: For me, I closed my eyes and imagine a bright 173 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: white light in my belly, a divine light that we 174 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: all have. I slowly imagine it growing, and eventually it 175 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: is so bright that it comes out of my pores, 176 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: filling the room with light. Then I imagine God as 177 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: another light, usually the sun, and my light blends with 178 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: its light and we become one. That's it. Then I 179 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: just let go and focus on my breath. If you 180 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: become unaware or think you have fallen asleep, that's the 181 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: place you want to be. There are many ways to 182 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: sit in the power, but find your own way, even 183 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: a simple prayer to God or the universe, Like I 184 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: want to sit in your power and be the best 185 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: human I can be. I'm here to serve. Help me 186 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: will work just fine. Our intentions are that powerful. Then 187 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: just go back to paying attention to the breath until 188 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: you drift away. If you don't in your mind is 189 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: too busy. That's natural too. Each time is different. But 190 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: the most important thing is to keep plugging yourself in. 191 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: And when I say pay attention to the breath, if 192 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: we pay close attention to our breathing in and breathing out, 193 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: it can slow down or stop that mind chatter. So 194 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: that's a great tool anytime we need to slow down. 195 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: We're going to head to the break and talk about 196 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: different cultures and different near death experiences. When we come back. 197 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the I 198 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. 199 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,119 Speaker 1: With age women and men have issues with fine lines, wrinkles, 200 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: under eyed bags, creepy skin on the neck, and aging 201 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: on the hands. Dr Nathan Newman has developed lumins for 202 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: amazing results treating these issues with his stem cell based 203 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: formula a p T two hundred. 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Will as see no DIVI I'm being at all. 211 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: It does seem like there's a plan for us when 212 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: we cross over to make it as comfortable as possible. 213 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: As with any journey we haven't been on before, our 214 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: mind will be fearful of what happens next. I'm pleased 215 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: to tell you that the only one not allowed to 216 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: board this flight to the afterlife is that little negative 217 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: voice in our heads. We keep our personality, of course, 218 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: but not the negative chatter. Entering the afterlife seems to 219 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: be designed to keep us comfortable with things that are 220 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: familiar to us. We start with deceased loved ones and 221 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: sometimes angels who we see the moments before we pass. 222 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: There are countless stories of people who are saying names 223 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: of their loved ones with smiles on their faces and 224 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: reaching out their hands as if someone is taking them 225 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: across the veil Across cultural study had focused on these 226 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: deathbed visitations. In this study, the research as had examined 227 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: the visions of approximately four hundred and forty terminally ill 228 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: American and Indian patients as described to their doctors and nurses. 229 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: The most common feature which occurred in of the cases 230 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: was seeing deceased relatives. In a hundred and forty cases, 231 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: there are reports of seeing religious figures, usually described as 232 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: an angel or God. Where these were specifically identified, they 233 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: were always described according to the person's religious beliefs. No 234 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Hindu reported seeing Jesus and no Christian Hindu deity. It's 235 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: comforting to know that no one dies alone. What we 236 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: see next can be different for all of us, but 237 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: there are some things that remain the same. We feel 238 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: out of our bodies. We are joined by loved ones 239 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: who have passed before. We feel a presence of a 240 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: great light or God. We feel safe, comfortable, and surround 241 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: ound things that feel very much like earth and the 242 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: life we left behind. We do bring our religious beliefs 243 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: with us, at least for a little while. One lady 244 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I met told me the story of her father who 245 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: had a near death experience He had always believed in 246 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: God and the Bible and cherished his religion. However, he 247 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: went to war and saw complete brutality and many people 248 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: suffer and die. He came back from war not believing 249 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: that there could possibly be any kind of a God 250 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: that would let this kind of torture happen to people. 251 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: He gave up his religious beliefs and led a cold, 252 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: hard life until he had a near death experience. He 253 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: was greeted by loved ones. He saw the light. He 254 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: saw all those who had perished being happy and whole 255 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: and complete. He felt the most profound, unconditional love and 256 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: reviewed his life up until then and saw the difference 257 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: he made. He came back being a believer in the 258 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: good of humanity, his love for people, for God, and 259 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: for life. Throughout history there are people of all different 260 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: religions experiencing different things. In one study carried out ninety five, 261 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: the experiences of sixteen Asian Indians had been compared with 262 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: those of Americans, and it had been found that the 263 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Indians had encountered their Hindu King of the Dead, while 264 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: the Americans had not. I spoke with Dr Rajiv Partis, 265 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: author of Dying to Wake up a world renowned cardiac 266 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: and athesiologist with over thirty years as a doctor. He 267 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: described himself as not a nice person. He was all 268 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: about fame and fortune in a big house and the 269 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: most expensive cars. He said he had no compassion for people, 270 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: that he was administering anesthesia too and putting to sleep. 271 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Before surgery, he had a near death experience. He explained 272 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: the hell he witnessed as if he could feel the 273 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: pain he put other people through by his uncompassionate ways. 274 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: But then a tiny bit of white light in the 275 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: dark void appeared. He began praying. The white light became 276 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: brighter and brighter until he was filled with unconditional love 277 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: and felt as if he was deeply loved. Jesus was there. 278 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: His wife asks, why not the Hindu gods that his 279 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: religion believed him. Who knows, but Dr Parti turned his 280 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: life around to waking people up and sharing the good 281 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: word about the reality of the afterlife and how to 282 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: live a good, powerful life instead of putting people to sleep. 283 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Dr Mary Neil, who shares her story back on our episode, 284 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: had been trapped underwater for a long period of time 285 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: during a kayaking accident, and she saw Jesus who foretold 286 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: of her future, which came true. In interesting, isn't it. 287 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: A gentleman by the name of Dwyane had a near 288 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: death experience that took place back in when he was 289 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: forty one years old. Before his experience, he describes himself 290 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: as an agnostic who had no spiritual beliefs. He believed 291 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: it would all be over when he died and look 292 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: forward to the oblivion. After his end, Dwayne came to 293 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: believe there is nothing to fear and death. It's just 294 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of a new adventure, another chance to express 295 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: yourself differently with souls you have loved and cherished over 296 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: many lifetimes in realms. Now, I imagine death as being 297 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: an e ticket to the ultimate theme park, and I 298 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: am the only one which selects which park to experience. 299 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: I also select the rides while I'm there. The rides 300 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: can be scary or peaceful and loving. It's always my choice, 301 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: and if you don't like the ride you're on, you 302 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: get off and find one that has more towards your 303 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: liking the next time around. After all, when God created 304 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: humans in his likeness, he promised an eternity of joy 305 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: and happiness. Since eternity is such a long time and 306 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: has no beginning or end. It covers all time everywhere. 307 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: The Reverend George Radonia died in two thousand and four 308 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: and underwent one of the most extended cases of a 309 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: near death experience ever recorded. Pronounced dead immediately after he 310 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: was hit by a car, he was left for dead 311 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: three days in a morgue. He did not return to 312 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: life until a doctor began to make an incision in 313 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: his abdomen as part of an autopsy procedure. Prior to 314 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: his near death experience, he worked as a neuropathologist. He 315 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: was also a devout atheist, yet after his experience he 316 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: devoted himself exclusively to the study of spirituality, taking a 317 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: second doctorate in the psychology of religion. He then became 318 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: an ordained priest in the Eastern Orthodox Church and then 319 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: served as a pastor at St. Paul United Methodist Church 320 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: in Texas. Without a doubt, the most interesting group of 321 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: individuals that report near death experiences are kids. Some investigators 322 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: have argued that adults might have imagined their near death 323 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: experiences based on their own personal, cultural, and religious views, 324 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: but published studies have shown that children are too young 325 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: to have formed an opinion regarding the afterlife or even 326 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: death itself, where children's experiences the same as those adults 327 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: are different in some way. To date, the most research 328 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: on near death experiences and children has been done by 329 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: Dr Melvin Morse, an American pediatrician. He has looked at 330 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: many critically ill children admitted to the intensive care unit 331 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: and had found that some had in fact described near 332 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: death experiences. These experiences had shared many of the same 333 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: features as those adults, separating from the body, watching events, 334 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: feeling peaceful, seeing a bright light in beings of light, 335 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: but had often described in children's terminology and during the 336 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: course of play, sometimes over many months. The children's interpretations 337 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: of what they saw had been based on their own 338 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: level of comprehension, but it was nevertheless clear that they 339 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: had had similar experiences to adults significantly. Although some of 340 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: the children described by Morse had been around nine or 341 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: ten years old, others had been very young three to 342 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: five years old. This group was certainly too young to 343 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: have any real concept of death in the afterlife. In 344 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: one of his published scientific articles, Morris had quoted a 345 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: number of children's inn dase. An eight year old boy 346 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: who had almost drowned after his parents car had swerved 347 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: off an icy road into a river in Washington. Had reported. 348 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: I could see the car filling up with water and 349 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: it covered me all up. Then everything went blank. Suddenly 350 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: I was floating in the air. I felt like I 351 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: could swim in the air. He was surprised to still 352 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: be thinking, as he knew he must have died. He continued, 353 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Then I floated into the huge noodle. Well, I thought 354 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: it was a noodle, but maybe it was a tunnel. Yeah, 355 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: it must have been a tunnel, because a noodle doesn't 356 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: have a rainbow in it. A five year old girl 357 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: whose heart had stopped had reported, I rose up in 358 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: the air, and I saw a man like Jesus, because 359 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: he was nice and he was talking to me. I 360 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: saw dead people, grandma's and grandpa's and babies waiting to 361 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: be born. I saw a light like a rainbow, which 362 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: told me who I was and where I should go, 363 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: And Jesus told me it wasn't my time to die. 364 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: The youngest case ever to be reported in the literature 365 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: was that of a six month old baby. This baby 366 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: had been admitted to the Intensive care unit at the 367 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: Massachusetts General Hospital with severe kidney failure. He had survived 368 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: and had been discharged home with his parents. As he 369 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: was growing up, his parents noticed that whenever he went 370 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: through a tunnel, he would have a panic attack. This happened, 371 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: for example, if they were driving through a tunnel, or 372 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: when the child was playing and his siblings went through 373 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: a playground tunnel. Eventually, when he was four, his parents 374 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: had attempted to explain the imminent death of his grandfather, 375 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: and he had said that he had died too, and 376 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: had related his experience back when he was six months old. 377 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: In the I c U, a four year old boy 378 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: named Tom had a near death experience after an intestinal blockage, 379 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: which brought him to the hospital. His dad, Gary said 380 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: it was touch and go, but Tom survived. A few 381 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: months later, Gary had asked Tom which park he'd like 382 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: to go to to play. Tom responded, I want to 383 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: go to the one through the tunnel that I went 384 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: to when I was in the hospital. There was a 385 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: park with lots of children and swings and things, with 386 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: a white fence around it. I tried to climb over 387 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: the fence, but this man stopped me and said I 388 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: wasn't to come yet, and he sent me back down 389 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the tunnel and I was back in the hospital again. 390 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a minute with the story. 391 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: You may know. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife 392 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 393 00:25:52,640 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: M paranormal podcast network. Okay, folks, we need your music. Hey, 394 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: it's producer Tom at Coast to Coast AM and every 395 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: first Sunday of the month, we play music from emerging 396 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: artists just like you. 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Now here's a story you probably know 406 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: and you've heard of the book or the movie Heaven 407 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: Is for Real. A little boy's astounding story of his 408 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: trip to heaven and back, written by Todd Burpo. The 409 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Father was written back in two thousand and ten, and 410 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: I have a clip from an interview with them just 411 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: after the book was published. Two years later. The book 412 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: went on to sell one million copies. Two years after that, 413 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: it had sold more than ten million copies. The story 414 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: is remarkable, and I'll let you listen to Todd and 415 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: his son Colton, in their own words. Well, I'd just 416 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: like to say hello. My name is Todd Burpo, and 417 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: I just finished writing this book, Heaven Is for Real. 418 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: We were on this trip to celebrate the end of 419 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: my my time of testing, we thought, and Colton gets 420 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: sick and they put him the hospital. They start hydrating, 421 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: but they still treating for the flu. And eventually we 422 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: just start seeing our son waste away. I mean, he's 423 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: an agony, throwing up all the time, he's in pain, 424 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: he's he's sitting there dehydrating. I think he lost about 425 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: five or six pounds. Now at that time, he's only 426 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: thirty three pounds as a percentage of body mass. You know. 427 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: One of the bad things is a pastor that I 428 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: have to do, is I've been beside many people's bedsides, 429 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: in their in their last days, and you see these signs. 430 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: As a parent, I was just dying because I'm starting 431 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: to see this in my toddler. It's like, hey, wait 432 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: a minute. So out of panic and desperation, we we 433 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: go to the next biggest hospital closest to us and 434 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: they order a CT scan and there they confirm at 435 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: that point in time that his his apinis had ruptured. 436 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: And that night people in our church got together and 437 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: came together, and people in town they invited. And we 438 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: weren't there, we were with our son, but we hear 439 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: there is about almost seventy people showed up just to pray. 440 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: Then that night he everything starts working again. He gets up, 441 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: he starts playing. You know. I remember when the doctor 442 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: came in the room the next morning. He came in slow, 443 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: he came in cautiously, and they just saw Colton sitting there, 444 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: sitting up there, playing with these toys and and and 445 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: and not sitting there rolling in hain like he was 446 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: the day before, you know, and he's kind of like, 447 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: what happened. I remember one nurse pulled me aside and said, 448 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Mr Burpo, you know, we don't know what happened, but 449 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: this is a miracle. And so we thought at that 450 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: point in time. Okay, God answered prayer. We knew we 451 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: had a miracle, would get to go home. You know, 452 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people wonder why it took so long 453 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: for us to hear about or to know what happened 454 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: to Colton. But in Colton's defense, you know, he tried 455 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: to talk to me in the hospital that first night 456 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: when we came out of surgery. He said, Dad, do 457 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: you know I almost died? Scared me to death. I mean, 458 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here praying. I'm sitting here praying God give 459 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: us a miracle. And I knew the frustration, and I 460 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: could tell how tired my son was getting, and I 461 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: was afraid he was gonna quit on me and give up. 462 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: And my son, no, you're you're not gonna You're not 463 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna quit. We're gonna pray, you keep fighting, You're gonna 464 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: get better. I changed the subject. I didn't. I thought, maybe, okay, 465 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: he'd overheard a nurse say something while he was under 466 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: anesthesia or something. My first reaction is, okay, they were 467 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: saying something. They didn't I I had no idea where. 468 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: And I think there was another time in the hospital 469 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: to where he said, Dad, you know, almost died you know, 470 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: as a parent, I was prepared to kind of talk 471 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: to my kids about sex, but I was not prepared 472 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: to talk to my three year old about dying. Scared 473 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: me to death, and I changed the subject both times, 474 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: and so it wasn't till months after we got out 475 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: of the hospital that we finally clewed in when he 476 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: started talking about the angels singing to him and in 477 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: the hospital. First I remember the angels carrying me to heaven, 478 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: and then I remember seeing Jesus. He had a rough, 479 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: kind face, see blue eyes that were really pretty, and 480 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: a smile that helped light the heavens. So I tried 481 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: to talk to my parents about Jesus loves the little 482 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: children so much, because well, Jesus told me about to 483 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: tell my parents that. And finally my parents say, okay, enough, 484 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: we've heard it enough. Because almost every second I get 485 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: I'd say, oh yeah, and dad, Jesus really loves children. 486 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mom, Jesus loves little children. I felt myself 487 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: just lifting up, and then I could look down and 488 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: see people. I saw my mom in one room talking 489 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: on her cell phone and trying to get people to 490 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: pray for me since I was in in surgery and 491 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: I could see my dad in a little room all 492 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: by himself, just letting God have it. Well. I was 493 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: just sitting by the Holy Spirit. And then man walks 494 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: up to me and he says, are you Toddson. I 495 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: say yes. He says, well, that's my grandson. So that's 496 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: where I met Pop. He talked about people in heaven, um, 497 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: my my granddad. When he can recognize a picture of 498 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: my granddad taken in the nineteen forties, Hey, how did 499 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: you get a picture of Pop? He'd never seen it before, 500 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: and but knew that was Pop. And he can't recognize 501 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: my grandmother, who's still alive in that picture, but he 502 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: could recognize the relative. But you never saw again. How 503 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: do you explain that by earthly measures? I can't. And 504 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: then those revelations, as he would share him and come 505 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: in and we call him, he'd say, he'd come and 506 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: drop bombs on us, you know, it just he catch 507 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: us off off guard, and he'd share something else he saw, 508 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: you know. And he described the Trinity to me God, 509 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: the Father, God, the Son, the Holy Spirit. If you're 510 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: trying to get the throne room of God, because that's 511 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: where they all were most of the time. So then God. 512 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: He was just a He was the biggest person there 513 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: is in heaven, and he would sit in the middle, 514 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: and then Jesus would it onto his right man size 515 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: like I'm not sure how tall, but somewhere around man size. 516 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: And then the Holy Spirit. I forgot where he sat 517 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: in the throne room, but he was sort of bluish 518 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: and hard to see, but you knew he was there. 519 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: And I saw Jesus Pop, which is my great grandfather, 520 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: my older sister who's already there. Um. I saw Sampson, 521 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: King David, and John the Baptist, John the Baptist, Michael, 522 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: and Gabriel. Those are the ones that I remember now. 523 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I believe God can do amazing miracles today anything in 524 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: the scripture, and he hasn't lost any power or desire 525 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: to perform those things. But I had never thought this 526 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: would happen to me. I don't know who who would, 527 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: and so we were caught by surprise. But being close 528 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: to Colton, he was easy for us to check it 529 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: out and finally go, this is true. And so when 530 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: people have skepticism and from a distance, I understand that 531 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: because they're not as close as we are, you know, 532 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: to be able to verify this. My wife probably explains 533 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: it really well, you know. Sometimes, you know, we we 534 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: got these revelations and conversations from our son over time. 535 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: They were spontaneous, he say, I saw this, I went 536 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: there like he came in the room. You know. We 537 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: didn't try to pull it out of him because we 538 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what he had and hadn't seen. We didn't 539 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: know what questions to ask, and so we really were 540 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: just waiting on him to share. And then it took 541 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: us time to process. When when you sit down and 542 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: read the book, you're getting many conversations in two hours 543 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: that we got in two years, you know, so it 544 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: was a lot easier on us to process than someone 545 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: who just sits down and reads it in one setting. 546 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know that Heaven is for real 547 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: and there you to like it because they're going to 548 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: meet relatives and Jesus. It's been a number of years 549 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: since I read the book Heaven Is for Real or 550 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: watched the movie, but I do remember that no one 551 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: had told young Colton that he had had a sister 552 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: who died before he was born. He met her, knew 553 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: his relatives that he had not met before, and saw 554 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: all the religious figures. Like those of adults, the near 555 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: death experiences of even very small children contain some usual components, 556 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: such as the tunnel or the noodle, bright light, meeting 557 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: dead relatives, out of body experiences, seeing a beautiful garden 558 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: and coming to a barrier, and being ordered to return 559 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: to life. The most common component children report is an 560 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: overwhelming sense of happiness. An intensive care nurse who has 561 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: also done extensive research on near death experiences said, I've 562 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: personally come across many such cases. If a child is 563 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: a bit old her though, he may also say he 564 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: feels the need to return to Earth in order to 565 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: accomplish something in his life. This is what happened to Natasha, 566 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: who is deaf. She said, the voice kept calling me 567 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: into a bright light. At the age of nine, she 568 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: had a severe bout with whooping cough that the doctor 569 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: had told her parents she was unlikely to survive. The night, 570 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: she was at home and fast asleep when she was 571 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: awakened by a bright light. The light was spilling into 572 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: the room around the edge of the door, and I 573 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: could hear my name being called, even though I'm profoundly deaf. 574 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: I got up to see what the light was and 575 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: turned around to see myself in the bed asleep, but 576 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: the voice kept calling me. So I opened the bedroom 577 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: door and it was just this pure, brilliant white light. 578 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: I stepped into it and kept walking towards the voice. 579 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: I was just walking in the light. There wasn't anything else. 580 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Then I was in a room and realized that there 581 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: was a presence behind me. He had at a hand 582 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: on my shoulder, but told me not to turn around. 583 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: I had to go back, he said, because I was 584 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: important and I had a job to do. The next day, 585 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: the crisis in Natasha's illness had passed, but she didn't 586 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: tell anyone about her experience for many years. I thought 587 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: they'd think I was lying or crazy, she said. The 588 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: n D remained vivid in her mind, and although she's 589 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: not religious, she says it's given her inner strength and belief, 590 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: as though I am here for a reason. Doctor Melvin 591 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Morris followed thirty of his children that had had near 592 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: death experiences, many of whom had had visions when their 593 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: hearts had stopped. They appeared now to be living perfect lives. 594 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: They were good at school work, they were mentally stable, 595 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: they had empathy for others, and not one of them 596 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: had become addicted to drugs or alcohol. Many of the 597 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: kids considered themselves to be spiritual, however, their spirituality was 598 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: different from the religion they were brought up with. In 599 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: a few cases, church ministers had actually complained that children 600 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: who had these near death experiences were disruptive because they 601 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: had asked questions that the ministers had not been able 602 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: to answer. We're going to take our final break now, 603 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: and when we come back, we'll meet a boy who 604 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: saw a wizard in his near death experience and talk 605 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: about the belief in the afterlife within different cultures and 606 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: different religions of the world. You're listening to Shades of 607 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 608 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Coast a M paranormal podcast network. Hey, it's time to 609 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: head over to Coast to Coast a M dot com 610 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: and check out the art Bell Vault, a collection of 611 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: timeless audio. Listen to some of the great interviews with 612 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: the likes of the late Father maleck I Martin, Dr 613 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: Evelyn Pagliny, investigative journalist Jim Mars and Moore. This is 614 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: plastic audio that you can enjoy at any time, and 615 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: it's all heard without interruption. New shows are at it 616 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: each week, so find out how to access the art 617 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: Bell Vault now by going to Coast to Coast d 618 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: a m dot com. That's Coast to Coast am dot com. 619 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain. 620 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: Hearing near death experiences, especially from children, is of huge 621 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: comfort to all of us. Experiences differ and that makes 622 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: perfect sense to me. There are billions of people on 623 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: earth right now, and if you were to ask each 624 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: one to describe life, each one would have a different explanation. 625 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: It's different from the lives we've led, and our different 626 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: experiences and our different perspectives. What we experience in the 627 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: near death experience is no different. Many say that we 628 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: are not completely dead when we have an nd E. 629 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: There is something, some call it a silver cord that 630 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: keeps us connected to life. A small percentage of near 631 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: death experiencers have negative experiences. Our ego and subconscious minds 632 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: can still be at play, and it can feel like 633 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: our biggest fears are coming true. A man I used 634 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: to work with described his near death experience after he 635 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: tried to commit suicide. What he experienced in his mind 636 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: was so scary that he realized he desperately wanted to live. 637 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: Was it his subconscious or a signal to him to 638 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: understand how valuable life is? Throughout all my years of investigation, though, 639 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: once that silver cord is cut, we are happy, healthy, alive, 640 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: and well greeted by our loved ones and pets in 641 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: the unseen world. Our life continues, we continue chasing our 642 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: dreams and all is well. In the last segment, you 643 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: heard from a Christian boy named Colton. Now I want 644 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: to introduce you to a boy named Christian and his 645 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: experience that he shared with oprah. My next guest says 646 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: that he did visit the other side was saved by 647 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: a mysterious wizard. His name is Christian Davis and his 648 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: mother is Marcia Davis. What happened, Christian? Well, um, I 649 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: was down the beach before summer started and the world 650 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: was too cold to swim in, so I dig holes 651 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: or tunnels in the sand. And this time I chose 652 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: to dig a tunnel. And after it was over, I 653 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: called my mom over the sea and look at it. 654 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: She said that was great, but you couldn't go in. 655 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: It was too dangerous, so you went in anyway. Now, um. 656 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: She said to get ready to go and that will 657 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: be leaving soon. So I got my stuff together and 658 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: I noticed there was like some not even a crack. 659 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the top. So when it's patted up because um, 660 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to wreck it, so um, and it 661 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: came down me hm, and UM, I thought, usually I've 662 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: been buried from the waist down maybe and I could 663 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: get out. But more I squeezed, the more the same 664 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: compacted on me. So you tried to scream and your 665 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: lungs got filled with sand. Yeah, yeah, So what happened? Well, 666 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: I faded out, like from reality, and I was just 667 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: being brought up this tunnel of light brightness, and UM, 668 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: up this tunnel, I just like noticed parts of my 669 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: life that I wouldn't even occur to me to remember 670 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: that was alive. Um. I saw when I was Christmas, 671 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: when I was about four years old, and um, I 672 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: saw my mom they gave me out, and my mom 673 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: driving to the hospital. And then I knew that I wasn't, 674 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't in my body, and that I was dead, 675 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,479 Speaker 1: close to death at least. And so then I came 676 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: to the end of this tunnel and noticed there was 677 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: a man that first because of his robes and white 678 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: robes and bright light. UM occurred to me at first 679 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: as a wizard like man, and I saw relatives that 680 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: had died that year or um, such as my friend 681 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: or his name's Ryan, and he's um, he died in 682 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: a he drowned in a pool and um you saw him, Yeah, 683 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: but did he speak to you too? And then the wizard, 684 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: without moving his mouth, spoke to me and said, struggle, 685 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 1: you're too young to die, and you'll go back. It's 686 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: not your time yet. And all of a sudden I 687 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: opened my eyes and this I was going down this 688 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: hall in the hospital to the I c U intense 689 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: carrying it. So what made you tell? Because you know 690 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: most kids who have this experience, unless question thoroughly by 691 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: somebody who's interested in this kind of thing, don't tell. 692 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: Why did you tell? Well? First didn't. I didn't remember it. 693 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: But I went into the cats skin, and by the 694 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: time I was afraid of needles and everything. And I 695 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: got in there and the bright light came and said, 696 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen. You're gonna be okay, You're gonna go back. 697 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: And I fell asleep. So are you saying the light talked, Yeah, 698 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: what what do you make of all this? Mar Well. 699 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: It was interesting because when he had to have the 700 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: cat scan, he was very very upset and nervous um 701 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: almost to the point of crying, and uh, you know, 702 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: the nurses and I tried to talk to him. And 703 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: when he did go in to have the cat scan, 704 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: he was out in like five minutes, and the nurse said, 705 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. He fell right asleep. It was 706 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes after that, back in intensive care when 707 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: he looked at me and he was very calm and 708 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: very peaceful, and he said, I saw God in the machine. 709 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: And I said, what do you mean. And at this 710 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: point he hadn't mentioned anything about a wizard, and he said, 711 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: I saw God in the machine. And I said did 712 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: he speak to you? And he said yes, and he 713 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 1: said to UH, everything is going to be okay, don't 714 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: be afraid. And then he continued with I saw God 715 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,479 Speaker 1: in the tunnel and I said, what do you mean? 716 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: And he said there was a very bright light. And 717 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: I just started to shake because I knew a little 718 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: bit about near death experiences. And very slowly the story 719 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: unfolded from that point that he saw deceased members of 720 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: our family and friend and and uh, I just started 721 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: to cry because I knew it was a miracle. That 722 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: clip gives me goose bumps every time I hear it. 723 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: It is so important for us people to be able 724 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: to other people about our beliefs. When near death experiences 725 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: first started being shared openly in the seventies, people had 726 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: a real hard time believing them until Raymond Moody's book 727 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: Life Afterlife came out. That book helped open the door 728 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: and introduce something that so many people had experienced that 729 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: just weren't openly talking about it. It's so hard to 730 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: talk about the afterlife, although so many people believe in it. Again, 731 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 1: like we talked about at the beginning, that negative mind 732 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: of ours does not want to take risks. But without risks, 733 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: there are no rewards. I invite you, if you're on 734 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: Facebook to join our Facebook community. There are now over 735 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 1: six thousand people that belong Most have experienced grief and 736 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: wanted to look for some answers, and fully we're able 737 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: to openly talk about grief, our belief in the afterlife, 738 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: signs that we've received and it's a really good place 739 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: to call home. So if you're interested and you're a 740 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: user of Facebook, you can go to we Don't Die 741 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: dot com, click on the tab that says Facebook group 742 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: and please join us. We also have a weekly Sunday gathering, 743 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: which I think is a fabulous thing. We humans don't 744 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: need a near death experience to wake us up and 745 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: shake us up to help us live a powerful life. 746 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: Each week we talk about great subjects. There's a theme, 747 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: they're inspirational, we have fun, and during each one we 748 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: have a medium demonstration so your loved one could come 749 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: through and talk with you. You can also find that 750 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: at we Don't Die dot com. There's so much there. 751 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into all the major world religions. 752 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: If you want to more about that, you can read 753 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 1: a free copy of my book and I talk about it. 754 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: Something like seventy eight percent of the open major world 755 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: religions have a belief in the afterlife. Some believe in heaven, 756 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: some believe in reincarnation. There are agnostics who believe in 757 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: something but not quite sure it's God. There's even atheists 758 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: that have, as we've heard, experience something divine in a 759 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: near death experience, but as they live they believe in 760 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: something they believe in some sort of energy that runs 761 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: through all of us. One of my hopes and dreams 762 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: is that we stop being afraid of what people think, 763 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: and that we're open to be who we truly are. 764 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 1: We need to express ourselves. We need to find our tribe. 765 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: There's a book called What to Expect when You're Expecting. 766 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: That is like a handbook for ladies who are pregnant. 767 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to see when someone dies or someone has 768 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: a life threatening illness, that it's normal to hand them 769 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: a book about the afterlife. If you want a free 770 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: copy of my book again, go to We Don't Die 771 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: dot com, scroll down to the bottom, join my email list. 772 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,959 Speaker 1: It says you get a few chapters of the book 773 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: the Truth. It's the whole book. I don't want anything 774 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: to stop you from getting this information. If you prefer 775 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: an audiobook, just go to the store page, scroll down 776 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: and use coupon code free f R E and listen 777 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: to the audio book. Life goes by pretty fast, and 778 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: the older we get, we sure do know that, don't we. 779 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: Isn't it time you are free to express yourself? Be 780 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 1: the person you were meant to be. You are one 781 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: of a kind. There's nobody like you on earth. Your 782 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: thoughts matter, your feelings matter, your dreams matter, and you 783 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: can just be yourself. There's something so comforting about just 784 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: being yourself, not listening to that little voice that says 785 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: you should do this, so you shouldn't do that. I 786 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 1: think this concept might be hard for us to grasp. 787 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: But what if we did live life like we were dying. 788 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, we are right the older we get. 789 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: But if we went to bed at night really looking 790 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: at our lives, did we say the things we wanted 791 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: to say to people? Did we do the things that 792 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: we wanted to do? Did we love the way we 793 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: wanted to love? I personally believe that where we are 794 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: in this very moment is the place we need to be. 795 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: Don't go back and think about the past, and don't 796 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: go thinking about the future. The magic really is in 797 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: this present moment. Unwrapid, savor it, and miracles are possible. 798 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: So if you'd like to review, rewind, listen to segment 799 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: one again now that hopefully we've put that little voice 800 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: of negativity in the back seat, and try those exercises 801 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: on gratitude and sitting in the power and see what 802 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: opens up for you. And your life. Keep a journal 803 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: because you'll be amazed at what happens. I'm Sandra Champlain 804 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: and I really want to thank you for listening to 805 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and 806 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. And if 807 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait 808 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 1: until you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 809 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 810 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: M paranormal podcast network,