Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you. My Oh look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that archer? Yes, goodness ding dumb Lost Cultures calling.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you something I just did that
Speaker 1: was really too good and too on brand. I've been
Speaker 1: talking to you for the last few minutes and I
Speaker 1: what you were you about to do? I'm saving it
Speaker 1: for this. I just gave myself a ridiculous paper cut
Speaker 1: opening up a package, and the packages a gumball machine?
Speaker 1: When did you order this? I'm not doing great? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I guess the other day I was like
Speaker 1: really high in the way that I've been dealing with
Speaker 1: my stress lately, this online shopping. So I bought a
Speaker 1: gumball machine for the because I had never seen anyone
Speaker 1: with one before. I thought it was like a cute
Speaker 1: fun thing. Oh my god, this tells I have to
Speaker 1: go get gas now, it really does. I mean, just
Speaker 1: to show where gumballs in it, put something else in it,
Speaker 1: like what bitch put little like um little condoms put there.
Speaker 1: If not gumballs, you'll you'll think of it. But just
Speaker 1: I think you might as well make a decision around
Speaker 1: what you put in there, and you might as well
Speaker 1: subvert the expectation that there would be gun balls in it,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I was thinking about it. I
Speaker 1: guess you could put like skittles Reminem's in there, but
Speaker 1: that's no kiddy. What would go in something that's disposed,
Speaker 1: that disposes, but like it's something different, it's and it's
Speaker 1: not even edible. Well you are being exactly no help,
Speaker 1: not even edible. Maybe a little I'm looking around my
Speaker 1: apartment looking for chas and knickknacks that I can put
Speaker 1: in my big ball. Honestly, put put like, buy a
Speaker 1: bunch of joints, spend like a few hundred on joints,
Speaker 1: and then put your joints in there. That's what do
Speaker 1: you think? I am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. Excuse me, who
Speaker 1: do you think? I am, ma'am madam. It's full circle.
Speaker 1: You bought when you were high, and then you might
Speaker 1: as well just like have that be the regulatory thing.
Speaker 1: But it's also it's also a decorative accessory. It's it's everything.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of flirting with getting high on the episode today.
Speaker 1: What's the highest you've been for one of our recordings?
Speaker 1: I remember when I was I don't think i've I
Speaker 1: don't recall a time that I've been high for this.
Speaker 1: Should we do it? Never? I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: just bought these new balls. Let's just do it. But okay, fine,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get stone. During the recording, I was really
Speaker 1: high for the carle En filimon episode two when I
Speaker 1: was late that day and you were maps. So that
Speaker 1: was the error when we would go to like bore
Speaker 1: Um Hill, like by literally right down the street from you,
Speaker 1: down the street from me, and that was I do
Speaker 1: remember that being a time in your life when you
Speaker 1: were NonStop smoking. Yeah, well that was like that was
Speaker 1: kind of a dark period. Do you ever miss that
Speaker 1: era of like living in that area. I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like that was an iconic apartment for you, you
Speaker 1: know how like some some like you have your apartment now,
Speaker 1: but in your past, like you have like an iconic
Speaker 1: apartment that will forever be you. The apartment and now
Speaker 1: is not iconic. I'm started to say, it's really not
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's like I feel like you
Speaker 1: will not be there for as long as you were
Speaker 1: in that old department. No, I was. I was meant
Speaker 1: to leave. First of all, there's just some dark ship
Speaker 1: happening in this building, not even in this building on
Speaker 1: my floor, on my corner of the floor, go into
Speaker 1: this because when I was there one time, there was
Speaker 1: an energy. It's a bummer. It's just a bummer because
Speaker 1: the people across from me, they're this hetero couple already
Speaker 1: spread suspects. It's already across the hall. Hetero couple. I
Speaker 1: would say they're mid forties. I'm sure they can hear
Speaker 1: every word of this because the walls are so thin.
Speaker 1: Which leads me to sort of the story, which is
Speaker 1: the narrative, which is, first of all, like all I've
Speaker 1: been here like a year and like three months and change.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, that their entire time, they've like
Speaker 1: hosted these like I would imagine like the energy feels
Speaker 1: very coked out, like they just invite it has a
Speaker 1: weird swingers vibe to which I'm not like pooh pooing.
Speaker 1: It's just like that's the energy. But like they bring
Speaker 1: in at least like three other couples i'd say once
Speaker 1: a week or once every other week, susis, so then
Speaker 1: they'll have they'll have these parties. And then what was
Speaker 1: especially sort of despicable was even into March April, May
Speaker 1: jin July, August, September, October. They've they've been doing this,
Speaker 1: they've been doing this all pandemic, having people over, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, what the fuck do you think it
Speaker 1: could be the same people again and again? Like this
Speaker 1: is truly their pod Maybe sure, sure it's fine, But
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is, even in March and April, I
Speaker 1: was like, don't do that, don't do that. I would say, well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't, I mean doesn't it doesn't matter now. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're all healthy or whatever, and just as long
Speaker 1: as you don't start hearing hacking coughs. Well, there's so
Speaker 1: there's this aspect of it, and they've never they've never
Speaker 1: like said said hiding in the halls. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the mail has like made contact with me and
Speaker 1: like grinned very sort of haphazardly he sus he sus no.
Speaker 1: But I just I just I just kind of I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't scalp people. I like scaled it
Speaker 1: kind of do you kind of give him this? That's yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: one of those like the time like hi like raised eyebrow,
Speaker 1: like bigger grin than usual, like hiya. So that's so
Speaker 1: that's one side of it. The other side of it
Speaker 1: is that's on Fridays and Saturdays, on on any given week,
Speaker 1: the big, big time, big time party days of the
Speaker 1: week Fridays and Saturday's. Famously it's a royal culture, big
Speaker 1: time days of the week Friday and Saturday. What roller
Speaker 1: culture is that again? Oh? Um, I, I and and
Speaker 1: so then Sunday, Monday, basically any other day that's not
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday, which are big time party days. Um.
Speaker 1: And this is when it gets dark, the most vitriolic, toxic,
Speaker 1: hateful shower matches. Yeah. Yeah, from the same apartment, from
Speaker 1: that same apartment, from this couple. No, they've said things
Speaker 1: to each other that I don't I couldn't. I tried
Speaker 1: repeating them to someone at work when I was like
Speaker 1: telling the story. I can't even like think about. I
Speaker 1: can't even recall what they say because it's so shockingly
Speaker 1: terrible what they say to Oh my god, there's nothing
Speaker 1: worse than like hearing fights happen. I can't. I can't imagine,
Speaker 1: like you're essentially following a narrative. Yeah, and I I
Speaker 1: kind of tense up and then oh my god, two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, it just got really bad, and I heard
Speaker 1: things bang against the wall. Oh no, And then truly
Speaker 1: truly did know what know what to do. And then
Speaker 1: he heard like the woman saying like I can't even
Speaker 1: this is so being like how the fund could you
Speaker 1: throw that at me like that kind of thing. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I blew at the mic. The acting performance
Speaker 1: you just gave can only be given by someone who
Speaker 1: had witnessed that is crazy. That is now. I'm not
Speaker 1: even just saying it's us. It's fully suss, it's fully sussed.
Speaker 1: It's awful. But if your sister, you're sous, I've been
Speaker 1: saying it's ever little culture. You have been saying that
Speaker 1: for you. We don't look at the number. If your assis,
Speaker 1: that's been saying that for years. So stop stop it.
Speaker 1: This is heavy. This is heavy. This is heavy. You're right,
Speaker 1: is heavy. I don't know what the funk to do still,
Speaker 1: And but then that night I did go down to
Speaker 1: my door person and it was like Abby. I was like, Abby,
Speaker 1: she's great, she's awesome, man's my favorite. It was like Abby,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about the situation because
Speaker 1: they don't involve the cops. But I basically told her
Speaker 1: was like this people across from me in this unit,
Speaker 1: and I've called down to them before and been like, hey,
Speaker 1: just letting you know they're never gonna do anything. They
Speaker 1: can't and of course and like they're not like equipped
Speaker 1: to do anything about it really. But then but that
Speaker 1: Abby was very helpful. She was like, I can put
Speaker 1: in a note to the management company of the building.
Speaker 1: They always are putting in notes. It doesn't do ship.
Speaker 1: Remember the toe? Remember the toe? Do you remember when
Speaker 1: I lived in that apartment in South brook and the
Speaker 1: guy downstairs was faced like a toe? So you have
Speaker 1: to tell the readers about to tell while I get
Speaker 1: my pen. Go okay, so I've hit my bawl. So
Speaker 1: this is just me and your readers because Boe has
Speaker 1: left the frame. So I'm just telling you guys. So basically,
Speaker 1: when I was living in South Brooklyn the first time,
Speaker 1: the first apartment I was in there, we were on
Speaker 1: the second floor, great apartment. It was me, Sudi Man
Speaker 1: of Checkman, Dave Mazzone some combination of that. So we're
Speaker 1: all living together and we were just in our apartment
Speaker 1: one day in the living room and we get this
Speaker 1: hateful knock on the door and I opened the door
Speaker 1: to sort of reveal a gentleman who I can only
Speaker 1: describe his face as looking like that of a human toe.
Speaker 1: This obviously took me back. This this, this was enough
Speaker 1: to take me back in the beginning. And so I
Speaker 1: my eyes were very much open at this point, and
Speaker 1: I opened my ears to hear him say that we
Speaker 1: were stomping, stomping in the living room, and when that
Speaker 1: he lived below us, and then we had to stop
Speaker 1: stomping and having a party. There were four people that
Speaker 1: lived there. There were four people, maybe three in the
Speaker 1: living room, and we were simply walking across you know,
Speaker 1: the living room floor, et cetera, not stomping, doing nothing.
Speaker 1: So he were We were like, okay, we're so sorry.
Speaker 1: Dancing though, no never, And you know that first of all,
Speaker 1: that apartment was like footloose, no dancing, just kidding, right,
Speaker 1: We we just were not dancing at that time. And
Speaker 1: I'm not really someone who like stomps around my apartment,
Speaker 1: like I'm definitely a pacer, but it was no stomping
Speaker 1: going on. So he leaves. I tell everyone, like, I
Speaker 1: guess we need to be more careful because that guy
Speaker 1: was said we were stomping. We were all just you know, perplexed.
Speaker 1: So cut to several months of this happening. He physically
Speaker 1: threatened us with violence one time, and Amanda's boyfriend at
Speaker 1: the time, Matt, was threatened with physical violence by him
Speaker 1: being like, if you don't stop, I'm going to stop it.
Speaker 1: And he literally said like he said something along the
Speaker 1: lines of like I don't want this to come to
Speaker 1: physical blow, but it might. And we were like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding? I'm telling the toe was on one on
Speaker 1: one and sist is us and I have to say this.
Speaker 1: He then put his own surveillance camera in the hallway
Speaker 1: so that he could see who was coming in and
Speaker 1: out of our apartment. The camera was pointed at the door.
Speaker 1: I was like, this can't be. So I go to
Speaker 1: call my landlord, who's a ninety year old Greek man.
Speaker 1: He's dead. The landlord died. You found out he died
Speaker 1: when you called. We found out he was dead because
Speaker 1: the daughter picked up the phone. I kid you not
Speaker 1: so that I say, well, I'm so sorry for your
Speaker 1: last Someone does have to deal with this. She was like,
Speaker 1: we can't deal with it for like a month. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, yes, take the time you need Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it gets worse and worse. The environment between me and
Speaker 1: the tow is getting so thick. Amanda is in hysterics,
Speaker 1: like Sudi could not handle it. I remember Sudi and
Speaker 1: Amanda being very perturbed. This was what circuit two fourteen.
Speaker 1: Dave was being very Dave about it, like like he
Speaker 1: actually moved out. He had had it, so he moves out.
Speaker 1: I'm there with Study and Amanda, and we had someone
Speaker 1: just like subletting that Dave apartment. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it got to the point where we had to leave
Speaker 1: because the landlord said, there's been too many complaints. I'm
Speaker 1: raising your rent in this way that only a landlord
Speaker 1: could be complained with the landlord. But he was complaining
Speaker 1: about was complaining the landlords. The daughter the toe was
Speaker 1: complaining to the daughter of the landlord, who, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. She might have been born into this dynasty,
Speaker 1: but she was not appropriate for the role of landlord. Okay,
Speaker 1: she was more more like a dummy. So her name
Speaker 1: was Christina I'll never forget. And she called and I
Speaker 1: basically had to beg her to not raise the rent,
Speaker 1: telling her this was unjust unfair. She was kicking us
Speaker 1: out of our homes and we were all being good
Speaker 1: tenants and he was just insane. He like, legally, I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was in his rights to serve ail
Speaker 1: our apartment. These readers all my lawyer readers, tell me
Speaker 1: if this is like, if I'm off base here, but
Speaker 1: it felt insane, and she was like, you guys have
Speaker 1: to get kicked out of the apartment. She because like,
Speaker 1: you guys are gone, and I'll never I was so
Speaker 1: mean to her. I hung up the phone and I said,
Speaker 1: this has been a horrible apartment to live in. You're
Speaker 1: a horrible landlord. And I hung on her and I
Speaker 1: just I just heard her go oh, like she was
Speaker 1: taken aback. And I was so I couldn't believe I
Speaker 1: had to an adult and I'm I'm twenty three at
Speaker 1: the time. I got so upset because it was so
Speaker 1: unfair and that was my first experience within justice. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: It was moment um. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't great. I
Speaker 1: kind of immediately regret smoking because I'm like a funk.
Speaker 1: I kind of have to worry. No, you don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I say you don't. Can I say something? You don't
Speaker 1: have to work this week? Because you did such an
Speaker 1: amazing job last week. Wait oonna, I'm start proud of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Before we talk about this, I just want
Speaker 1: to close I just want to close the loop on
Speaker 1: my situation, which oh sorry, no no no, no no, no
Speaker 1: no no, just really quick. So I mean something got
Speaker 1: sent to the management company, who knows what will happen.
Speaker 1: But then I also went on next door and posted
Speaker 1: a whole thing where I was like, what you're Christina
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, is that where you can anonymously
Speaker 1: blast people you live? Well, well, that's what people do.
Speaker 1: And it's not anonymous like your name is on it,
Speaker 1: but people, it's just people in the neighborhood, like talking ship,
Speaker 1: it's and and a lot of it in my area unfortunately,
Speaker 1: is like make sure you lock your car doors, like
Speaker 1: there's there's there's suspicious activity going. It's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's how That's how next door is in a lot
Speaker 1: of neighborhoods across the country. And so did you kind
Speaker 1: of take to the website seeing if someone was having
Speaker 1: an experience like yours? I said, what what should I
Speaker 1: do from people who might be experienced in this? Um?
Speaker 1: So I was I was looking through and explicitly asked.
Speaker 1: But I was kind of reaching out to the social
Speaker 1: workers and to the to the people who to the professionals.
Speaker 1: Did you get any anything anything back? Well, it's it
Speaker 1: was so many split things. Oh see, they're all fools.
Speaker 1: Some people being like, you have to call the police.
Speaker 1: That's the only way this gets resolved, and then other
Speaker 1: people being like, no, that doesn't solve anything. That actually
Speaker 1: creates a tens or situation for the people, and and
Speaker 1: then other people being like I'm a survivor of abuse
Speaker 1: and nothing changed for me until someone called the police. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. It's so it's so hard. There's
Speaker 1: no right answer. You don't want to assume that I
Speaker 1: think something needs to be done. What are you going
Speaker 1: to do? Go over there yourself and knock At a
Speaker 1: certain point, like I was thinking that maybe what while
Speaker 1: you were talking, I was like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that someone needs to make them aware of the fact
Speaker 1: that like, I don't know. This is a tough one. Well,
Speaker 1: I you should probably call thee no, because there there
Speaker 1: are like domestic abuse hotlines that like I can call
Speaker 1: into but like, but then, but see what all of
Speaker 1: these experts are saying and social workers were saying on
Speaker 1: next door was was something along the lines of like
Speaker 1: you kind of have to catch one of them, You
Speaker 1: kind of have to confront one of them individually and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, if you need help, let me know.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, I I am concerned for them
Speaker 1: on a baseline level, but I also despise. I don't
Speaker 1: want anything to get hurt. But it's like I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I have not been put in the position
Speaker 1: to like, well, no, I'm not saying that, like I
Speaker 1: would not like step in because they're despicable people, because
Speaker 1: they broke quarantine rules, you are willing to let them? No.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, it does not it does
Speaker 1: not fall on me individually to be like, hi, um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna solve this. No, no, no, no. I I
Speaker 1: think I think that what seems to be not happy
Speaker 1: inning is that no one is willing to be like
Speaker 1: this is an unusual situation and we all live in
Speaker 1: this environment and it's becoming toxic foreveryone, not just you.
Speaker 1: So what's going on? And I think that maybe, but
Speaker 1: I do not want I do not want to deal
Speaker 1: with the sort of little aged cocaine energy hetero energy
Speaker 1: with these people and I'm gonna guess white, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so um great. So the thing is, I think that
Speaker 1: it needs to be made more explicitly known to the
Speaker 1: people who are running your building what exactly is happening.
Speaker 1: And also have you thought of going to other neighbors
Speaker 1: and being like, are you having this experience? Yeah? But
Speaker 1: my my neighbors next to me and I have a
Speaker 1: tense relationship because I like because I've literally like played
Speaker 1: especially during the the SMLT Home episodes when I was
Speaker 1: shooting stuff, like they like knocked on my door and
Speaker 1: like complained about the noise and I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I like the walls are paper thin here that I
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate that. Oh my god, that's every
Speaker 1: ne York apartment though. Hello, the apparently the floor in
Speaker 1: that apartment that I was just talking about was made
Speaker 1: of paper apparently because that toe was inflamed. That was
Speaker 1: what I was thinking to you, like, I'll just like
Speaker 1: go over to them and be like, hi, if you
Speaker 1: guys were hearing this, like let's figure out something we
Speaker 1: can do. But anyway, since that big blowout where things
Speaker 1: were thrown, there hasn't been anything quite as quite as
Speaker 1: violent as that apparently, but um, they've the parties have continued.
Speaker 1: So but anyway, Um, I'm proud of you for how
Speaker 1: you did on the show, despite the fact that you're
Speaker 1: very disrespectful to to the Quebeckers. I feel that the
Speaker 1: accent that you did, the way you were behaving, the
Speaker 1: buffoonery sort of sketch comedy acting you were doing, was
Speaker 1: very disrespectful that lives in the province of Quebec. You know,
Speaker 1: sketch comedy is um dangerous. It is supposed to be subtle,
Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be really paired back and always
Speaker 1: accurate and completely it's it's real, grounded realism. I want
Speaker 1: to see more Mary Louise Parker on SNL the most
Speaker 1: rounded actress. We can think she's very grounded. No, who's
Speaker 1: the most ground And I'll tell you who's the most
Speaker 1: grounded Christian because she's not doing anything anyway. Grow Um No,
Speaker 1: but we love drost hashtag anyway, maybe that's a rule
Speaker 1: of culture. I'll tell you who's the most grounded actress,
Speaker 1: Christen Stewart, because she's not doing anything. That's culture number
Speaker 1: fifty nine. Of course, Bond is not going to say
Speaker 1: it because he is of course d n C SNL
Speaker 1: and I, of course I of course I'm out girl dog.
Speaker 1: No one owns me, no corporate entity. I am owned
Speaker 1: by no conglomerate. Okay, bitch right, what we're gonna say?
Speaker 1: I was saying, was there really any blowback from the
Speaker 1: province of Quebec? What people who don't know Bowen did
Speaker 1: a very funny um, well, we could explain the sketch
Speaker 1: We did a Canadian news, a French Canadian news show
Speaker 1: called bonjer High, which I didn't realize until until after
Speaker 1: the sketch air that there is such a cultural controversy
Speaker 1: around saying bonjeer high in Quebec, that there is a
Speaker 1: small movement there too codify into law that it is
Speaker 1: that it would be illegal to say busher high, and
Speaker 1: anyone says busher high will be like fined or something. Wait,
Speaker 1: why I have I have to ask one huge question,
Speaker 1: which is why it was so bucher high. It's like
Speaker 1: meant to sort of like be both in English and
Speaker 1: in French greeting. I understand, no matter who you're sitting,
Speaker 1: no matter who you're talking to in Montreal or in Quebec,
Speaker 1: why this is happening is because Quebec has this really
Speaker 1: fetishistic love and memory for when they were owned by
Speaker 1: the French. Is the is the most simplistic way I
Speaker 1: can put it. The license plate sage sullen, which is
Speaker 1: I remember, and that's saying it refers to when they
Speaker 1: I remember when we were French. So they wished to
Speaker 1: be French. They wish to be French. Really, at the
Speaker 1: core of like kibbe Qua cultural identity is this like
Speaker 1: it's differentiated enough to not be French culture. And I
Speaker 1: think there's like French Canadian pride in French Canadian culture
Speaker 1: being what it is and being distinct. But I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what this is rooted in so bonje High.
Speaker 1: This is a sort of watering of their rich culture
Speaker 1: and they feel it's like saying happy holidays. It's like
Speaker 1: a happy holiday situation, right, It's like can I get
Speaker 1: more catch up from my French Fries please? Exactly, I understand.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's cheapening what is what they feel
Speaker 1: is a rich origin culture, right, Yes, So there's a
Speaker 1: sort of movement to sort of extract the high from
Speaker 1: it and potentially make this punishable. Yeah, it's like by law.
Speaker 1: It's Um, I don't know if it's technically nationalism, but
Speaker 1: it is like I don't know, it doesn't matter, Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's secessionism for sure. There is this like under
Speaker 1: current of like a secessionist like right, okay, got the
Speaker 1: part of Look, growing up in Montreal was lovely and
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed going there now, but you can no
Speaker 1: longer now, I can no longer now. I was going
Speaker 1: to say that also growing up in Montreal was it's
Speaker 1: one of the sort of more inflammatory lee racist places
Speaker 1: to be, I would say, like the kind of racism
Speaker 1: experience and now I'm grammar and now no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is but this is like this is something that
Speaker 1: like people I think are willing to talk about um
Speaker 1: and have talked about for a long time. But like
Speaker 1: my personal experience with it is that the ship that
Speaker 1: we got in Canada and Montreal specifically and Quebec specifically
Speaker 1: was like maybe if I could quantify it, like four
Speaker 1: times worse than what we got in Denver. Whereas like
Speaker 1: you move to the US, moving to the US like
Speaker 1: towards Asian people, like the racism is more buried under
Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff. Um, But Quebec people are
Speaker 1: like very direct, very sort of just like efficiently spoken
Speaker 1: to keeping, so they'll they'll just like like one of
Speaker 1: the most traumatic memories I have is being like seven
Speaker 1: years old, six years old, and we just came from
Speaker 1: a dentist's appointment, me and my sister, like the whole
Speaker 1: family met my parents, My sister and I went to
Speaker 1: this dentist's appointment, and then on the drive home, we
Speaker 1: pull up to stop light and then the car to
Speaker 1: the right of us. I'm sitting on the right side
Speaker 1: in the back. The car to the right of us
Speaker 1: pulls up. It's these two like and iust vievs who
Speaker 1: whatever the funk? Like French Canadian asked girls, and I
Speaker 1: mean that and like I'm there. I have to say
Speaker 1: you say you say that name and you say that
Speaker 1: you I I just have to tell you I'm there.
Speaker 1: I get it. The Anna used is on Isis. But
Speaker 1: like they're like, what are the Long Island equivalents? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like their names, Amanda's their names.
Speaker 1: Their names are both Amanda, Amanda t and amandas Amanda
Speaker 1: Tucker and Amanda Simmons. And that's what the Lacrosse college
Speaker 1: called from Tucker and Tucker and Simmons, you too, YouTube YouTube,
Speaker 1: Hey Simmons. The only way I gotta I gotta say
Speaker 1: the last name is the only way you can tell
Speaker 1: them a put. They're always together. We have to wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, well okay, well we'll finish this. Okay. So anyway,
Speaker 1: um and the US and gen Viev are like looking
Speaker 1: over at us, and then they're pulled, pulling back their eyes,
Speaker 1: sticking their heads, pulling back their eyes, like waving their
Speaker 1: fucking faces in front of us and my mom and
Speaker 1: like Kathy Park Hong writes about this in her book
Speaker 1: Minor Feelings in Asian American Reckoning. Everyone everyone should read it,
Speaker 1: even if you're not Asian. And this just applies to
Speaker 1: all I think non white people. Perhaps, is that being
Speaker 1: a child of color or being just a person of
Speaker 1: color is to see your parents be humiliated, is to
Speaker 1: see your parents be humiliated. And this was this is
Speaker 1: a this is like a moment of that that I
Speaker 1: so vividly remember. And so so then these girls pulled
Speaker 1: their eyes back. My mom flips out and starts to
Speaker 1: like curse at them, and it's just like like giving
Speaker 1: them the finger. She's I've never seen her this upset
Speaker 1: at a stranger before. And then I just got so
Speaker 1: mad too that I'm like me. The seven year old
Speaker 1: rolls down my window and I started giving the double
Speaker 1: bird too. I love thinking of you like this. I
Speaker 1: have to say, this is one of my favorite things,
Speaker 1: is like thinking of young indignant upset Bowen. It's so
Speaker 1: It's always been in me. I know. I know that
Speaker 1: like more that like higher high ground that you know,
Speaker 1: you know what, when I have see I don't get
Speaker 1: like that. I don't have a strong opinion either way
Speaker 1: about something unless I know your sense of justice is intact. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you your sense of Justica. You're not morally superior.
Speaker 1: Your sense of justice is intact, and it's a leading
Speaker 1: principle for you. It's a leading principle organizing even so,
Speaker 1: I hello, so, then so then and then and then
Speaker 1: and then I remember flipping them off, and then they
Speaker 1: both laughed like they were kind of shocked. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that they were. It wasn't like a ha I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that kid. It was shocked them in
Speaker 1: a way that I that I was actually very satisfying
Speaker 1: for me because I'm like, oh, like one like they
Speaker 1: didn't expect a kid like like the kid in the
Speaker 1: back to do this with them. These are these like
Speaker 1: two fucking like curdled asked teenage girls like giving me
Speaker 1: this like whatever. So I was just I was just
Speaker 1: like able to give that energy back in some way.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing, there's no equivalent thing you can
Speaker 1: say to these people. And by these people, I mean
Speaker 1: white kid aquas. But anyway, do you think that those
Speaker 1: ass um are the two people are amongst the people
Speaker 1: complaining about your performance? I'm sure that kind of person. Yes.
Speaker 1: But then meanwhile, we named Kaid's character and Marie after
Speaker 1: my next door neighbor and Marie leg and there were
Speaker 1: such a lovely family. The Legs were so lovely and
Speaker 1: so nice. And now I just got a DM from her.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, she's like a lead like
Speaker 1: she's like a lead developer at Shopify and like in Toronto,
Speaker 1: I think. And she's like and she's posting on these
Speaker 1: cute like she she loves to travel to her Asian countries.
Speaker 1: I love that. And Marie and I were reconnecting, and um,
Speaker 1: that was really nice. But um, anyway, yes, the Nsion,
Speaker 1: the Gien vievs are that are amongst the people. So
Speaker 1: there's a small group of people who are like, what
Speaker 1: the funk was that? That was terrible. There's some people
Speaker 1: who are like it wasn't funny, but who cares if
Speaker 1: it's accurate. And this is me being like, no, Like
Speaker 1: it was funny. It was funny. It killed a table
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. Yeah, I loved it. I
Speaker 1: really liked it. This is and this is a whole
Speaker 1: different thing we can get into. But therapy was so funny.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Issa, can we talk about Issa? Also,
Speaker 1: just when she said at the beginning, I'm the first
Speaker 1: black woman to host, she was like, y'all are scared.
Speaker 1: That is not true. That was so funny. That was
Speaker 1: such a funny joke. She is so good, she's so
Speaker 1: good at the show. And also she is so fucking gorgeous,
Speaker 1: oh my god, stunning, but also like truly so funny
Speaker 1: and like Insecure, I'm just like, what a gorgeous like
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what a gorgeous like thing that like she's made,
Speaker 1: and like that's given us so much like comfort. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I find it. I I apurcha Insecure is
Speaker 1: a very comfortable show. Lisa is an artist, a true artist.
Speaker 1: To me, she is like an artist because she like
Speaker 1: she feels like like she's it feels simultaneously like she's
Speaker 1: curating something that means something, but also she's following the
Speaker 1: fun for her, Like she truly is doing both those
Speaker 1: things at the same time. Where it's insecure, is so
Speaker 1: much fun and like you really feel like you get
Speaker 1: to know the characters. And also it's just it feels
Speaker 1: like there's so much like being discussed in it. That's
Speaker 1: that's worth it. Like, so it's it's both I love
Speaker 1: I love and stre I love it so much. She
Speaker 1: was fantastic all week. I really I like let her
Speaker 1: know too. I like a good nights so like I
Speaker 1: mean like I kept my cool. I generally just like
Speaker 1: don't really remark on anything throughout the week, but with her,
Speaker 1: with her, I genuinely felt like, wow, wow, wow, this
Speaker 1: is crazy so good, so good nights for dress. I
Speaker 1: went up to we like we had a moment where
Speaker 1: we were like high and then I just like let
Speaker 1: let out really quickly. I was just like, is this
Speaker 1: is this gross for me for me to share? I
Speaker 1: was just like, I've just been obsessed with you for years,
Speaker 1: and I just I'm so glad that you're here, and
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that this is happening. And she was like,
Speaker 1: she was like stop, like she was being very really sweet,
Speaker 1: and so I just that's what I always stop. I
Speaker 1: always say stop. That is a very mad thing in
Speaker 1: my eyes. You know, I wanted to continue. Stop stop.
Speaker 1: I said stop stop. If you don't stop, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get mad. Stop. It's now, no, you better stop.
Speaker 1: And then um, the rest of the Cobeckers are like
Speaker 1: people who are like who like it's unremarkable. Who cares?
Speaker 1: We don't care? And then there's like there's like a
Speaker 1: fun little like segments of the population that that's like,
Speaker 1: oh that was very stupid and silly, and they got
Speaker 1: it like and they like, yeah, there's no like huge
Speaker 1: actual blowback. I got it. But the Montreal Gazette, which
Speaker 1: is like which used to be the main newspaper there,
Speaker 1: and I think now it's I don't know what the
Speaker 1: deal is now Maybek Gazette, well, some opinion writer like
Speaker 1: just railed on it, and I was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: just god, who cares? Literally, it's like what is their
Speaker 1: sense of humor? They put on the huge pants and
Speaker 1: a big dumb head and they like poop in the
Speaker 1: street and that's a whole festival for nothing. Don't don't care.
Speaker 1: Montreal people better not drag my friend for sense of humor. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I've seen you like flip a sausage in the
Speaker 1: air and then do a split and then it was
Speaker 1: like an hour long show that we'll paid for. So okay, literally,
Speaker 1: stop stop it. That's my ever. I grew up there.
Speaker 1: Um you know what Bowen, I grew up. I grew
Speaker 1: up to drew ups. Wait, the sketch was great, thank you,
Speaker 1: but this is this is what I want to say. Oh,
Speaker 1: we all should maybe um fucking re evaluate what we
Speaker 1: want out of sketch comedy. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, it was a it was a
Speaker 1: few people. It's no, no, no, no no, it's not
Speaker 1: even that. It's just any but like, truly it's a
Speaker 1: thing where like the commentary on comedy I think is busted.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I think we are over
Speaker 1: editorializing so fucking much. It's crazy. Like I get that
Speaker 1: everyone's board and I get that it's some people's job
Speaker 1: to like sort of what watch what's happening in the culture.
Speaker 1: Obviously here we are, but um, yeah, to me, it's
Speaker 1: just like I think it's because and maybe this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a drag on all parties.
Speaker 1: But the importance that was put on SNL in the
Speaker 1: two thousand eight election I think was in retrospect too much.
Speaker 1: I think it was like two eight two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about with with with like the the way
Speaker 1: it impacted the election of it all. I think there's
Speaker 1: such a bloated sense of both importance and expectation that
Speaker 1: it feels sometimes like I was going to ask you,
Speaker 1: actually what it feels like working there, And obviously you
Speaker 1: have some experience with the Andrew Yang of it all,
Speaker 1: of like when they look to you for some sort
Speaker 1: of like comment and the pressure to deliver that comment
Speaker 1: in some groundbreaking way. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like what is that? What is that? Like? What is that? What?
Speaker 1: Temperature wise? What does that feel like? I can only
Speaker 1: speak to it personally because I was never involved in
Speaker 1: any internal conversation around like what's the goal with Like,
Speaker 1: it was just really bizarre to be in those sketches.
Speaker 1: Do my bad impression of him. I hate when you're
Speaker 1: saying that, because this is the thing I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not an impressionist that is like an actual like, but
Speaker 1: what you were doing was not a bad impression. And
Speaker 1: this is this is this is the bliterally literally, what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is that everyone's turning their eyes to
Speaker 1: it and needing it to be a historical document or
Speaker 1: the funniest thing in the world, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: be both. And so it's just like I saw the
Speaker 1: way you internalize that, and I'm like, bitch, anyone else
Speaker 1: doing an Andrew Yang on the street would never get this,
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't get it at all. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1: like after any time, I would go up and do
Speaker 1: it like these were the darkest days of Twitter for me.
Speaker 1: Like Yangang people God bless them, would like flood my
Speaker 1: fucking mentions and be like, you suck this person should
Speaker 1: play Andreying instead, Get that person to play Andrey Ng instead,
Speaker 1: be assuming that they know how it works. Really says
Speaker 1: a lot about the Yang Gang but continue, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: well it was just this thing first of all, and
Speaker 1: also just the grand point on all this is that
Speaker 1: Andrean has never been anything but like extremely kind and
Speaker 1: nice to me and like has like reached out like
Speaker 1: and has has been just a great guy. But the
Speaker 1: way but it's you're right, it's like the expection, the
Speaker 1: expectation of what happens at the show is so wildly
Speaker 1: like either over underestimated by like a viewing public. So
Speaker 1: I feel it's because people genuinely who don't know ship
Speaker 1: actually think that Tina Fey Sarah Palin like changed people's
Speaker 1: minds in the election. I honestly think there's people out
Speaker 1: there that think that like that I really do like
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a little bit like legacy leaning into it,
Speaker 1: but there is this sort of thing where I feel
Speaker 1: like there's this expectation around the show at this time
Speaker 1: that's like both unfair and never going to be met.
Speaker 1: So it's like sure, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: feel like sixteen was like it seemed to align with
Speaker 1: what was happening like between like Kate being Hillary, that
Speaker 1: being the show seemed to really take a side because
Speaker 1: there was a correct side and there was a wrong side.
Speaker 1: And I appreciated that about it. I always do, as
Speaker 1: at least it's taking a side, um, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But with the Andrew thing with the Andrew
Speaker 1: Yank thing, It's like I had that layer, and then
Speaker 1: I had the layer of you're not writing his jokes,
Speaker 1: well as if I'm the one who is like writing
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And that's not to throw the actual writers
Speaker 1: under the bus, but I would have. I would I
Speaker 1: was pitching like two or three things for each of
Speaker 1: the two lines that I would have in those debate sketches.
Speaker 1: And then it was like, Wow, you suck, and like
Speaker 1: you're the reason why MSNBC is planning against Andrew Yank
Speaker 1: to cut his time in the in the debates and
Speaker 1: that is somehow your thing. So I was somehow complicit
Speaker 1: in that. And then it was this thing where like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was purposely throwing the impression or something,
Speaker 1: and then oh my god, that is such a walk.
Speaker 1: But my my thing is like, wait, I'm up there
Speaker 1: with Larry David the hate like draft Maya Fred Armison,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to get They're gonna cut to
Speaker 1: me twice no matter what. There's like twelve other legends
Speaker 1: on this stage. And I just started this fucking job
Speaker 1: like a month ago. Yeah, So I just think it
Speaker 1: sucks that this is what you just said is not
Speaker 1: the number one narrative around that experience for you. That's
Speaker 1: I think what sucks, and that is the that is
Speaker 1: the social media fucking devil, and it's the public needing
Speaker 1: something that they're never going to get by just demanding more,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: even really know what my take is on this. I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of dumb struck by, like to hear that
Speaker 1: people were upset about the Montreal sketch. I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: we are commenting too much, too much. This is the
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make about the commentary on comedy
Speaker 1: and maybe even so, but specifically the commenting around SNL
Speaker 1: is that it's like, hmmm, well this was this was
Speaker 1: a bad week, and it seems like they're just sort
Speaker 1: of dusting off the cobwebs because corn the quarantine shows
Speaker 1: were probably It's like there is like it's news, like
Speaker 1: it's news, like how how SNL did that week? But
Speaker 1: it's this thing where it's like like the sort of
Speaker 1: and this is something that I'm trying to disengage from,
Speaker 1: but like I'll lightly follow, like the sort of commentary
Speaker 1: timeline of the night from the from the night before
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, a lot of people commenting will be like, God,
Speaker 1: who let this pitch pass? And like really this made
Speaker 1: it pass to the table and blah blah. It's like wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, you think that's something that a funny idea executed,
Speaker 1: no matter how many times or how few times, will
Speaker 1: always stick the landing whenever it makes it to air. No,
Speaker 1: the sort of deciding factors always the audience. And what
Speaker 1: happened this week was the air audience was fucking dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's just what happens. And that's not that's not
Speaker 1: like I'm not faulting them. I'm just saying, this is
Speaker 1: just what happens sometimes. And it's and they're all wearing
Speaker 1: masks and there's a fucking pandemic and they're indoors and
Speaker 1: who knows what. They don't know what the ventilation system is.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's weird. It's it's like it's just weird
Speaker 1: to begin with. Yes, yeah, anyway, anyway, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, we should we should just
Speaker 1: figure out maybe recalibrate what we want to get out
Speaker 1: of a sketch at all, where it's like we're not
Speaker 1: We're not trying to impart these unexcavated truths to you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just so we can do a fucking silly
Speaker 1: voice and build build, like a new show, sketch around
Speaker 1: like ultimately, like if someone had to put on a
Speaker 1: wig to do it, you can't take it seriously. And
Speaker 1: that's a rule of culture. It's real coach number sixty four.
Speaker 1: If someone you can't seriously, which which excludes Nicole Kidman
Speaker 1: from Big Little Eyes because she didn't, of course you
Speaker 1: must take that. No, she did work. Come on, mama,
Speaker 1: she is a liar. If we need to get Nicole
Speaker 1: on the pod, because I'm gonna set her down there,
Speaker 1: hair in the stom and say, bitch, you didn't wear
Speaker 1: a wig and big little eyes and she'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: of course I did my Australian accent. This put me
Speaker 1: on us and now no one will even watch the schedule.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, we have to do the Adele
Speaker 1: impression again. I'm obsessed with the Adele impression. I love you.
Speaker 1: I think so funny you always held me laughing. I
Speaker 1: feel like Adele's going to go up to Bowen and
Speaker 1: it's sorry. Doug Engineer I'm gonna blow it out because
Speaker 1: I am. Okay, this is what Thedel's gonna say to Bowen.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love you. You You always held me laughing.
Speaker 1: You had me laughing this one. I'm about that one
Speaker 1: scace she did last make so funny. I'm at Del'm
Speaker 1: hosting s and now to speak with musical guests her
Speaker 1: not sha ha. I can't I can't do I can't
Speaker 1: do company. Why didn't you let me be do my
Speaker 1: impression of her? Oh my god. Okay, well let's start over.
Speaker 1: I'll start over. I'm Del, I'm hosting us, and now
Speaker 1: this musical guest her, that's your name, right, huh yes?
Speaker 1: And that was a very and that's a very responsible impression.
Speaker 1: It has to be like, oh my, there's there's I
Speaker 1: just want to say. This is the last thing I'll
Speaker 1: say about the enduring. If there's one guy and he
Speaker 1: seems lovely and he actually he wants to always make
Speaker 1: it clear to me and that he just he cares
Speaker 1: for me, he wants me to do better. But he's
Speaker 1: been saying this for over a year now. He goes,
Speaker 1: he I'm sure he'd be so fun to meet in person.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bet he looks cool. Um here so
Speaker 1: stoned she Um. He'll always say if if you just
Speaker 1: spent a couple of minutes watching his interviews and studying
Speaker 1: his mannerisms, maybe you'll get it. And I'm like, oh god, um,
Speaker 1: you don't. Like I'm like, don't, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Don't you don't have to give me process notes, babe,
Speaker 1: okay Um. I wanted to tell you, Um, right before
Speaker 1: we got on here, I watched the Black Pick documentary
Speaker 1: started it and what you were talking about re racism
Speaker 1: in Quebec, Australia, New Zealand. Yeah, it made me think
Speaker 1: of what those girls through in Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker 1: I was thinking actually about summer HIGs high and how
Speaker 1: and just Chris Lilies work in general. Yeah, Like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of racist stuff towards Asians, a lot as
Speaker 1: as hilarious as he is. Like he did something and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he would call himself equal opportunity, but now
Speaker 1: it was like explicitly anti Asian, and I think he
Speaker 1: would say he was making fun of racist people. But
Speaker 1: the young man was in yellow face and like really
Speaker 1: laying it on thick. Um. She kind of got like
Speaker 1: actually canceled over the summer, didn't he. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: if there was gonna be a cancel Sprae, he was
Speaker 1: gonna be on the list right, And let's not leave
Speaker 1: out the black face. Um oh no, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like I was thinking about it because that show so
Speaker 1: explicitly like displays a racism towards Asian people. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I learned from you and Joel that Australia actually
Speaker 1: is extremely racist, yes, which I did not know. And
Speaker 1: then when I saw that she was from there, I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: she probably got like whole life's full of experiences with racism.
Speaker 1: It's um, it's it's the kind of like there's an
Speaker 1: anti immigration sentiment there around towards Asian people where it's like, um,
Speaker 1: they're taking her jobs, that kind of thing. With the
Speaker 1: Chris Lily of it all, it's like it doesn't even
Speaker 1: fall completely on him. He's just an example of this culture,
Speaker 1: this comedy culture that or or a sensibility that makes
Speaker 1: it like tolerable to like actually be like explicitly anti Asian.
Speaker 1: And actually it's like ship that like even like you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable saying this that even like you're Sarah
Speaker 1: Silverman's haven't really owned up too, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And as and as wonderful as Sarah is,
Speaker 1: and I mean she's like one of my fucking heroes,
Speaker 1: but like anytime you'd watch Jesus's Magic, anytime I would
Speaker 1: watch Jesus's Magic, and she like went on and on
Speaker 1: about she's not afraid to say shank, but it's because
Speaker 1: she's not afraid of Asian people. It's like, oh, like
Speaker 1: that like watching that developing into like a communic voice.
Speaker 1: For me, I was just like a lot of sucking sucks,
Speaker 1: but you just have to swallow that and move forward.
Speaker 1: And that is the culture that like allows for that
Speaker 1: ship to happen. Um. But anyways, as wonderful as Sarah is,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, she's on the right side
Speaker 1: of things now and she like is consciously like being
Speaker 1: sort of just. But I I would hope that something
Speaker 1: she owns addresses that part she not. I don't think
Speaker 1: she ever has. Well, yeah, that's no. And it's like
Speaker 1: we've seen people, We've seen people get really right through
Speaker 1: the goals over tweets that say that very same thing.
Speaker 1: So yes, exactly. Anyway, I was watching the documentary and
Speaker 1: that part came up, and so I I remembered when
Speaker 1: you guys told me that it was so different or
Speaker 1: not different, but so much more blatant rights. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing too, Like I think back on my like
Speaker 1: my parents being there, and like they experienced that firsthand.
Speaker 1: I never had to. I don't think my sister remembers
Speaker 1: um that much of it. So I feel like my
Speaker 1: parents have just like gone to these places that like
Speaker 1: in some way like didn't want them, which is very weird.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly it's it's that thing too have like
Speaker 1: when you watch your parents have to deal with that,
Speaker 1: And another thing that bucks in your brain is that
Speaker 1: your parents are the safest, most control smartest people that
Speaker 1: could hand any situation. You just have to look to them.
Speaker 1: So to look to them as a child and watching
Speaker 1: get upset, it made you get upset, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like and that that is something that is formative.
Speaker 1: So it is sort of you know, you had a
Speaker 1: response to that. Absolutely I want to talk about this
Speaker 1: is the Amanda culture of it all. Okay, we're visiting,
Speaker 1: but when you were, when you when you were doing that,
Speaker 1: your impression you're very well researched impression of a lacrosse coach. Yes,
Speaker 1: I walked into this zoom to a conversation that Matt
Speaker 1: was having with the whole the whole crew too Doug Dog,
Speaker 1: to hot head of content, Hans, too hot producer. There
Speaker 1: they were, and they were looking really good today. I mean, Hans,
Speaker 1: three of them looks good, like a fine wine, better
Speaker 1: by the day, Hans. Hans facial hair length is really
Speaker 1: good right now. It's really really working. Heart throb, and
Speaker 1: he says l O L in the chat. I think
Speaker 1: he's just I think he's uncomfort bowl. I think that
Speaker 1: he's sort of laughing because he doesn't feel like he
Speaker 1: doesn't know. It's like it's like an half and halfway
Speaker 1: Princess Diaries, you know that movie and halfway Princess Diaries,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of like she doesn't know she's gorgeous
Speaker 1: the whole time. That's sort of the energy, sort of
Speaker 1: the energy how he is giving his Princess Diaries. Um,
Speaker 1: he says, I can't drop emojies, but it would be
Speaker 1: red faced emoji. Oh so anyway, Yeah, I was talking
Speaker 1: to him about baseball and hearing you talk about your
Speaker 1: athletic career, saying that he had six hundred batting average
Speaker 1: because you were a bunter. You said you were the
Speaker 1: best buncher, the best buncher in Babylon. Well this began
Speaker 1: because Han test if I was a baseball fan because
Speaker 1: I have my Dodger's head on, and I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll go to the gay days. You should have asked me.
Speaker 1: In the late nineties and the late nineties, I was
Speaker 1: like a massive, like crazy Mets fan like and it
Speaker 1: ended like Love the Millennium. Oh my god, I was
Speaker 1: about David right. Yes, I did. When I in college.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, when I was in college, I did.
Speaker 1: That was my first a good sketch I wrote. It's
Speaker 1: an amazing sketch. It's such a well written sketch. That
Speaker 1: was when I knew. I was like, Matt Rodgers, Wow,
Speaker 1: that guy can really write a fucking sketch. And that's kind,
Speaker 1: that's very kind. Um. But anyway, I um like I
Speaker 1: was wearing the statress hat and I told him. I
Speaker 1: was like, the Dodgers were big for me because that's
Speaker 1: where we got our crown jewel. That's where the Mike,
Speaker 1: that's where Mike Piazza came from from the Mets, and
Speaker 1: we got on this whole tangent about whether I played baseball.
Speaker 1: And it's true. I was a center fielder and was
Speaker 1: a leadoff hitter, and I would bunt every single time
Speaker 1: I hadn't at bat, and I had an average of
Speaker 1: about six hundred. And I was the stolen base leader
Speaker 1: in my league as well as the runs leader in
Speaker 1: my league because I was so fast, and then I
Speaker 1: I was the leader, and I was My batting average
Speaker 1: was crazy high. And then eventually, like eventually, like the
Speaker 1: third basement and all the other team every time I
Speaker 1: would come up, they would bring their third basement all
Speaker 1: the way up to get my bunts. But bitch, I
Speaker 1: was still too fast. I was running around the bases
Speaker 1: and then I quit to run. Try and track track
Speaker 1: was a positive experience for you, very Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was because the track kids, the track kids
Speaker 1: just ha, there a community. Track kids are a community,
Speaker 1: and they were cool fun. Yes, but they're fun and
Speaker 1: cool and and funny and cute. Here's the thing about
Speaker 1: cross country kids and track kids. And I hope this
Speaker 1: is still the case. But they were the people that
Speaker 1: I learned like cool music from like they they liked Queen,
Speaker 1: like like fucking on football buses. I don't think they
Speaker 1: were singing Bohemian Rhapsody, I really don't. I think they
Speaker 1: were singing like I don't know, maybe their pump up
Speaker 1: song was something different. Maybe we got some we Will
Speaker 1: rock you in there, but that was as queeny as
Speaker 1: it got on the football buses. Rock country bass. It's
Speaker 1: it's an exception in the it's an anomaly in the Queen.
Speaker 1: It was him doing mass Dragon, we love we Are
Speaker 1: the Champions. There's a lot of sort of you know,
Speaker 1: hetero ish songs, but really they're just I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no gayer song than We Are the champions Um if
Speaker 1: you really think about it. But anyway, um, the icon
Speaker 1: of cross country is this guy, Steve Prefontaine. And he
Speaker 1: was sort of like he was a guy with long hair,
Speaker 1: hippie like you got the sense that maybe he smoke.
Speaker 1: And even though it was like a psycho runner, he
Speaker 1: was just one of the best cross country athletes of
Speaker 1: all time. And he died tragically, very young, but he
Speaker 1: was like an iconic college cross country athlete. There's actually
Speaker 1: two There's one code without limits, and it has Jared
Speaker 1: Leto and there's one called Prefontaine that has Billy Crude
Speaker 1: up or I could be mixing it up, but there's
Speaker 1: two good movies about this guy and they're both pinked um,
Speaker 1: so you should check them out. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is there's like a more like sort of queer like
Speaker 1: whatever sensibility with cross country and track because you're trying
Speaker 1: of doing the gay sport because you're not using your
Speaker 1: hands and you're not throwing balls, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love you're not like slamming into people. And the
Speaker 1: people were cool and they and they were smart, and
Speaker 1: I like their castle. That's what it is. They're not
Speaker 1: a grow in that way. So the thing is like
Speaker 1: on cross country and track, you're really it's really an
Speaker 1: individual sport. So the fact that you're not relying on
Speaker 1: each other takes the pressure off in a way. Like
Speaker 1: I would always get so anxious when I was going
Speaker 1: to play a team sport because I was pretty aware
Speaker 1: that I was the only gay person there and like,
Speaker 1: if you messed up, it meant more than you let
Speaker 1: the team down. It meant like you were in a
Speaker 1: man you know what I mean. So God whenever I
Speaker 1: still to this day sometimes when I hear when I
Speaker 1: start to smell in New York spring in the air,
Speaker 1: I still have like this crazy anxiety, which I talked
Speaker 1: about last week on the pod. I have this insane
Speaker 1: anxiety because baseball season is starting. Literally still happens, like
Speaker 1: I have sense memory. It's so it's so weird, but yes,
Speaker 1: that's how I have the lived in um character of
Speaker 1: lacrosse coach inside me. My dad as coach energy always
Speaker 1: has but this is um. This is a mask energy
Speaker 1: that I think Matt is. Matt very very selectively pulls out.
Speaker 1: I think, as well, well, can I say something about it?
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Like the response to Hot Dog
Speaker 1: has been like, so, wow, you're the gayest person ever.
Speaker 1: I love the show is so gay, Like I love
Speaker 1: the fagotry, Like you go, girl, like you're so gay,
Speaker 1: you're gay that there's a little part of me that
Speaker 1: comes from Long Island and was this kid. That's kind
Speaker 1: of like, I hope it's not turning people off. I
Speaker 1: hope they're not saying it in a bad way. I
Speaker 1: hope I'm not annoying. And I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that I do have a complex with that. I have
Speaker 1: a complex with being like gay and annoying, which I
Speaker 1: guess is pretty unfortunate because I am. But um, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's hard. It's it's not an
Speaker 1: individual thing. It's not an individual thing. It's like a
Speaker 1: social cultural thing where like exactly, it's, yeah, I've just
Speaker 1: been cultured a part of me that still lives that
Speaker 1: I've almost killed. He's almost dead, but still believes that
Speaker 1: be acting that gay is like like delegitimizes you in
Speaker 1: a way, you know what I mean. And that's just
Speaker 1: that's just my damage. I'll be very honest about i'mly
Speaker 1: is it truly? Is nobody's business like? And I okay.
Speaker 1: So so I like tweeted a bunch of ship on
Speaker 1: Sunday after the Gazette posted their thing, and I was like, guys,
Speaker 1: it's literally so we can just do silly voices. You god,
Speaker 1: you people are so annoying l O L. And I
Speaker 1: left that up and I was just like, this is
Speaker 1: actually how I feel. I don't care if it's like
Speaker 1: I don't care if this is like me like sort
Speaker 1: of taking the beta or whatever. And then I tweeted
Speaker 1: a bunch of things and then I was in a
Speaker 1: salty tweet Stormer was like a salty tweet storm. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's good coming to the stage, salty salty
Speaker 1: tweet storm. I was just like to the people who
Speaker 1: are happy that I didn't play a faggot this week,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't a fagot on TV this week, Like
Speaker 1: your face looks like Olive low bitch, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care what you have to say. And then podcast Fantasy World,
Speaker 1: this meme account of Instagram posted this funny thing that
Speaker 1: made me laugh, which was who the funk y'all think
Speaker 1: y'all are? And then and then it's an image of
Speaker 1: following two thousand seven followers like fourteen and I'm just like, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: this is the energy that I get a lot these
Speaker 1: people who like practically don't exist on the internet. Do
Speaker 1: you want to get that? What you guys? I have
Speaker 1: a package? Okay, okay, okay, man, it's gonna get his package. Um. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we're getting real Okay, So this is just me a
Speaker 1: new reader. We're getting really realist episode, and I hope
Speaker 1: you're along for the ride. Yeah, this is just us
Speaker 1: very sort of candidly talking about things I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt and I had had a discussion
Speaker 1: like this in a while. Um, what's the package? Sure,
Speaker 1: this is like a very sort of like the listeners,
Speaker 1: the readers rather, are really sort of like in our
Speaker 1: living rooms. I was telling readers that I feel like
Speaker 1: this is a very real episode. I mean, why not,
Speaker 1: right in the world, think about everything that is going
Speaker 1: on in life. You wouldn't want to not say all
Speaker 1: these truths, you know? Yes, that's right. Sorry, I'm just
Speaker 1: opening a box with a with a what do you
Speaker 1: call this? A plastic knight? Plastic better night? All right,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it is. It's Trick Mirror by
Speaker 1: Ga Tolentino. Isn't that crazy? Literally, you've been saying for
Speaker 1: me to get this on this pod, and now I
Speaker 1: get it on the pod ever since Taylor Trench, Taylor
Speaker 1: Trench and I told you to get this, Miss Taylor,
Speaker 1: I miss Hers. I know that the audio the Maria
Speaker 1: the Meaning of Maria carry audio book is without here.
Speaker 1: But Jia herself does a very good audio book of
Speaker 1: Trick Mirror. Well, then maybe I'll do with this book
Speaker 1: what I did with Mariah's book, which is I'll actually
Speaker 1: read it while I listened to it to get a
Speaker 1: full immersive experience. I tried that with Mariah's book, and
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I really liked that experience anyway.
Speaker 1: I know, I just my salty tweet storm was just
Speaker 1: like these people who like the people who are like
Speaker 1: telling you to be more, to be less fem or
Speaker 1: the silent lizard brig part of me that's telling you
Speaker 1: to be less fem is just like enlarged in these
Speaker 1: other people who are saying like like I get this
Speaker 1: ship all the time where it's like bow and bone.
Speaker 1: Stop like Bowen's being so like say or whatever, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like bo and better stop doing that gay voice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry, but who get notes from just the
Speaker 1: public just just commenters? Yeah, And I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: that's my voice, honey. Yeah. That's another thing because it's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's funny because I thought what I
Speaker 1: was doing on a hottop was like me at like
Speaker 1: an eight, Oh, I feel like I'm toned down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god. The same Literally when every time I'm
Speaker 1: ever on tape for anything, and any casting director ever
Speaker 1: encounters me, they're always like, Okay, you know what you
Speaker 1: can just throw it away. And I'm always like, it's
Speaker 1: such a drag. It's like when it's like when our
Speaker 1: producers sent me this pop builder. It's such a drag.
Speaker 1: But they don't know. They don't know. No, it's true.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm coming for them, and they're they're
Speaker 1: right here in the zoom and they know who they are.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really thankful that you guys sent me a
Speaker 1: pop filter. It was Doug. I knew it was Doug.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really happy I have this pop filter now
Speaker 1: for a little voiceover things, which I do. Sorry, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it is good for voice over. So it was Hans.
Speaker 1: There's so there's this trickery going on. I have to
Speaker 1: I have to say something what I can no longer
Speaker 1: hold in my I don't think so, honey. I actually
Speaker 1: was going to run by you doing it first thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, already an hour in, Well this is the thing, bitch.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I'm not saying we're doing that. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Now I'm saying that I literally
Speaker 1: wanted to come to the episode today starting with this
Speaker 1: because I wanted to provoke a discussion, because I think
Speaker 1: there needs to be truth there needs to be truth
Speaker 1: speaking into the atmosphere, and it might need to be
Speaker 1: expanded on. Okay, I love we've never done this before. No,
Speaker 1: we're doing it early earlier. Does this should? I can't
Speaker 1: wait in mine wait until the end? Yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to anyway, because like I said, it's going
Speaker 1: to provoke a discussion which takes time. You know, it's
Speaker 1: actually real culture number sixty six discussions. They take timeson
Speaker 1: what is your background? Your phone? What is that? What's
Speaker 1: all that? This? This little ghosts? This is an artist unigaba.
Speaker 1: He just dug these illustrations of people with their phones.
Speaker 1: Isn't that cute? I want that? That's really cute. Oh.
Speaker 1: Bow And told me the other day to go to
Speaker 1: the store and get Sunday Cologne by Barretto. And I
Speaker 1: marched right up to the saleswoman and I said I'd
Speaker 1: like Sunday Cologne by Barretto and she was like, oh yep,
Speaker 1: And everyone in the store looked for it. It was
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. They told me it was discontinued.
Speaker 1: Just kidding, No, it's not. You can buy it online.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what was going on in that
Speaker 1: store that day, But where did you smell? But you
Speaker 1: said that he had smelled it at first, Well, they
Speaker 1: had a display out on the table. I was, and
Speaker 1: then and then then then it was not in the
Speaker 1: entire store. And then someone who quote unquote really knew fragrances,
Speaker 1: it was discontinued. And then I was like, no, that's
Speaker 1: a lie. Yeah, well I knew. I kind of knew
Speaker 1: it was. And I was like, I don't think these
Speaker 1: women know what they're doing, and so I won't say
Speaker 1: where it was. I went online and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: very much on sale. So anyway, I just bought mine
Speaker 1: like two weeks go. It's so good. I'm one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. Okay, here we go. All right, so here
Speaker 1: we go. This is Mount Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so honey, anyone
Speaker 1: outside of Disneyland protesting that you need to go home
Speaker 1: and draw a picture, bitch. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: that you were out here on what is a Monday,
Speaker 1: it's a work day. At least pretend something's going on
Speaker 1: to be protesting. The Disneyland is not open during COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, that any of you have
Speaker 1: even been to another protest in your life. And if
Speaker 1: that's true protesting moby, I don't think so, honey. You
Speaker 1: can ride the matterhorn later, bitch. Also, you've probably done
Speaker 1: it upwards of thirty times. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: of the even figure out. You could just fly to Orlando,
Speaker 1: you dumb bitch. If you want to go to Disney
Speaker 1: World so bad right now, it's better and risk death
Speaker 1: and death. I don't think so, honey, that you need this.
Speaker 1: This bat poorly on me, someone who said they're part
Speaker 1: of your community and now must rescind my membership. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. This is
Speaker 1: we've established this on the podcast before. You are not
Speaker 1: a Disney gay. I'm a universal faggot. But but you're
Speaker 1: not even like and that is the better one of
Speaker 1: the two to be to sort of identify, to align
Speaker 1: your identity with. Yeah, it means they're much cooler, but
Speaker 1: you're all but you're also but you're you're also not
Speaker 1: even that fanatical about it, nobody about the whole thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be honest with you. When people dragged
Speaker 1: Disney people, I kind of assume they're talking about someone
Speaker 1: like me those a few times a year to Disneyland,
Speaker 1: because I have an annual past just to have fun.
Speaker 1: Whatever I go, I get very high, I drink, I
Speaker 1: do rides. I think it's cute. I'm not going for
Speaker 1: to in a matching shirt and clothes. I can't believe
Speaker 1: the people with close And I also cannot believe that
Speaker 1: there is a breed of person who exists that is
Speaker 1: protesting in Anaheim right now that it's not open. That
Speaker 1: is a very six disease. And if you like Eminem
Speaker 1: or one of these people, I am willing to pay
Speaker 1: a scholarship. I'll say again, I want a scholarship at
Speaker 1: high school where I went to school, which is six
Speaker 1: hundred dollars to the student who seems like they might
Speaker 1: protest that disney Land during COVID. Help that child, help him,
Speaker 1: help him, he's there's a good in him. If that
Speaker 1: child that I slip high school has expressed an interest
Speaker 1: in solidarity, has expressed solidarity with the protest, you give
Speaker 1: him this money, please. I'm sending it. I'm sending the money.
Speaker 1: I'm sending the money because that kid needs helping. Me
Speaker 1: very sick and it's not funny. These kids shouldn't be
Speaker 1: going down to the world. They should be getting rehabilitated
Speaker 1: that when we it's it's up to us to get
Speaker 1: them helped. There's people protest u thing outside Disneyland saying
Speaker 1: saying start the magic. I mean, it's really it's dark.
Speaker 1: It's like reignite the magic. It's like we are wallowing
Speaker 1: in the swamp of humanity. I'm telling you some Drew
Speaker 1: tingerbell sprinkling pixie dust and being like you like you
Speaker 1: can fly, you can fly. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: There is a part of me who that does want
Speaker 1: to fly to Orlando, but I know that it can wait.
Speaker 1: I know it can wait. This is okay, So can
Speaker 1: you give us any more background on what's happening, Like
Speaker 1: when did they start? Not the first day of the protests.
Speaker 1: I just know that I saw on Twitter and this
Speaker 1: also bothered me because people were tagging me in it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, no, it's important that you know.
Speaker 1: I would never in my life be protesting outside the park.
Speaker 1: So it's so funny to me that they're dressed as
Speaker 1: if they might come and be like, you guys are right,
Speaker 1: it's time and just let them in like little gay
Speaker 1: fish so that they can go on the mad tea party.
Speaker 1: Hon darling, think about what you are protesting, which is
Speaker 1: too I just couldn't believe it go against a public
Speaker 1: health protocol one to want the invisible hand and forces
Speaker 1: of the free market to work in full swing again
Speaker 1: so that you can pay your dollars to this like
Speaker 1: capitalist class monstrosity of a company. We love Disney, but
Speaker 1: that's what they are. Yeah, and I we don't even
Speaker 1: love Disney. We love Disney as much as human being
Speaker 1: can love a corporation, as as as much as someone
Speaker 1: people who have developed class consciousness can love a corporation. Okay,
Speaker 1: so these people are just lost wayward souls, lost and
Speaker 1: confused souls. And draw a picture, Draw a picture, do
Speaker 1: a puzzle, you know, like oh my god, I hide
Speaker 1: and go seek with a few of your friends in
Speaker 1: your pod. There's ways to revisit your inner child. There
Speaker 1: is there is there is there or grow up or
Speaker 1: or I just I couldn't fathom the protesting. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I do you agree with me? They haven't
Speaker 1: been They did not protest the first protest. If they
Speaker 1: if they joined in protests with actual oppressed people at
Speaker 1: any point in their lives, they would know that this
Speaker 1: is not there. There is no transference in in in this,
Speaker 1: in this way, or whatever the term is. Like, there's
Speaker 1: no analog to Disney Disney not being opened being the
Speaker 1: same kind of oppression as something systemic. That's wait, I
Speaker 1: need to look this up. Disneyland protests. You should look
Speaker 1: it up. You should definitely watch it, and maybe I
Speaker 1: will to the guards to open the gates. That you
Speaker 1: tell the guards to open up the gates. Oh my god. No, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up to it's no, like, this is terrible. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm seeing it. No, bring back the magic. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, not on the fucking Let's read some of
Speaker 1: these signs. Wait, we got to read some of these signs. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: let me in, let me in. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: not even a joke. It's just let me in, let
Speaker 1: me in. No, not all these are gonna be They're
Speaker 1: not all going to be clever. You're right. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I assume they would be a good satire.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know these people? Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I've run out of photos but this is
Speaker 1: this is just beyond Yeah, it's really crazy anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was a beautiful I don't think so, honey. No,
Speaker 1: but this, I think this is very important. I just could.
Speaker 1: I had to speak out. As someone who's public about
Speaker 1: being part of the community. I felt like it was
Speaker 1: my it was my duty to come out and say
Speaker 1: I do not endorse this, and I think it's wrong.
Speaker 1: And even though you are sort of trying to distance
Speaker 1: yourself from the community, I would imagine that a majority
Speaker 1: of the community would not support what these people are doing. No,
Speaker 1: I think they agree with me, even though I would
Speaker 1: say that the radicals in the party would consider me
Speaker 1: really amit Romney type. I guess at this point as
Speaker 1: a centrist, I'm sort of defecting from them and saying
Speaker 1: I do not condone morally, what is happening. Sorry to
Speaker 1: talk about her and no, no, no, when and when
Speaker 1: we say like the T shirt wearing like the blah
Speaker 1: blah wearing people like and that's not meant to be pejorative,
Speaker 1: that's just that's a type of Disney gay that Matt
Speaker 1: and I are not right. We we love it. But
Speaker 1: and I should also say I'm going to take back
Speaker 1: the Romney thing, because I just remembered our guest next
Speaker 1: week is Ann Romney. So Romney's coming on Last Cultures
Speaker 1: and that'll be really fun, a good time. We should
Speaker 1: have we should have Megan mccainnon. What if what if
Speaker 1: we had her on and we both were like, I
Speaker 1: love her? Actually just kidding me what I would want
Speaker 1: to make him the engineer Doug just said, Yes, the
Speaker 1: most excited he's gotten all episode is that the suggestion
Speaker 1: of Megan McCain being a guest. I want to I
Speaker 1: want to make a bet to the audience and to
Speaker 1: the public that we invite Megan mccainnon and if if
Speaker 1: we if she and this is a challenge to her,
Speaker 1: like she would know this coming in. If she's able
Speaker 1: to charm us and whatever, if she's abled us to
Speaker 1: get us to say, oh, you know, you know what,
Speaker 1: we actually really liked her, um, then you and I
Speaker 1: have to kill ourselves. I think that I think that
Speaker 1: should be. That feels like I don't know where you
Speaker 1: were going with Does that? Does that make sense? Thoughts? Ready?
Speaker 1: If she if she charms us, but if she comes
Speaker 1: out it's charmless. We get to continue to live yes,
Speaker 1: but then then and she gets and then and then
Speaker 1: she gets um bragging right, she gets and she gets
Speaker 1: the podcast well she gets to then then then it
Speaker 1: becomes last called Creationist with Megan mccannan Abby Huntsman who
Speaker 1: I have been saying that Megan is the boeen and
Speaker 1: I'm I've been I've been saying that you are you are?
Speaker 1: You are? My dad? Is my dad always like my
Speaker 1: father my father's Yeah, Well, because says my father, my
Speaker 1: father just as much, you're always my father my father coached. No,
Speaker 1: I saw you something. You are Megan, you are? You
Speaker 1: are here and you want to well, I am the
Speaker 1: one that loves housewives. No, here's how you're Megan. You've
Speaker 1: been on watching What Happens Shut the funk Out. She's
Speaker 1: an iconic guest of that show, a little bit too
Speaker 1: frequent if you ask me, um, yeah, um, well, I
Speaker 1: would say. Here's the thing. The invitation is out to
Speaker 1: Megan McCain to be on the show. We will keep
Speaker 1: you guys updated. This is our official invite to her
Speaker 1: to be on the show. And I actually think if
Speaker 1: everyone came with an open mind and was cool, we
Speaker 1: might be able to have a nice time but I
Speaker 1: doubt that that would be the case ever. Well that
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy she's invited. Yeah, I'm happy she's
Speaker 1: invited to you know what, I'm gonna watch tonight? What
Speaker 1: the Bachelor at? Oh? Good luck? I mean I just don't.
Speaker 1: I never have the time for for the Bachelor brag. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, wait, can we what? Can we set
Speaker 1: up the fact that Adele is going to be on SNL? Yes?
Speaker 1: Very exciting, very exciting. Yes, it's gonna be fun. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's time, right? Is this time for
Speaker 1: your So? I have no idea what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I really don't Well, oh god, what no? What we
Speaker 1: just got it? We just got an email anyway? What
Speaker 1: wait we just gottama, we just got an email. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm okay wait wait wait this is Bowen Yanks.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And as time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Earnest as emails. Okay, call
Speaker 1: me up for coffee. Even in the pandemic. I'd rather
Speaker 1: get coffee with you than have to field some crazy
Speaker 1: ask from I can't do it. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: I just I'm mentally, I'm not there to to sort
Speaker 1: of offer myself because there is some what is what
Speaker 1: is that process? Right? I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: like give myself over to read something that's like more
Speaker 1: than two paragraphs in an email, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can allocate that psychic energy
Speaker 1: to that part of my life anymore. I think we
Speaker 1: need to figure out a new solution for when you
Speaker 1: have like a serious like media ask to first towards someone.
Speaker 1: It can no longer be in emails. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: find another way. And that's one minute. Okay, So here's
Speaker 1: a question for you. One. What's worse and having to
Speaker 1: read an email that is very long and earnest or
Speaker 1: someone in person kind of forcing a personal moment with
Speaker 1: you in person is always terrible. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: can't be in person, and it can't be emails. It
Speaker 1: has to be it has to be. No, I don't
Speaker 1: even know, I'm just do you remember this is the
Speaker 1: second part of my question. Do you remember the thing
Speaker 1: I wrote for paper Lett, which was I think about
Speaker 1: it all the time and it's that's another incredible sketch. Um.
Speaker 1: It's called show email. It was just it literally, it
Speaker 1: was just so, can you can we pull it up? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, I guess we could, and then we could
Speaker 1: actually play the song. The song was the whole part
Speaker 1: of it. The song was Wow, I can't believe this
Speaker 1: is happening. Oh, I have show email. I have shown
Speaker 1: you do send it to me? Okay? So okay? And
Speaker 1: the song is can you guess? Do you to move
Speaker 1: by switch? It's day to move by switch? For um?
Speaker 1: Are you sending I feel it's only right that I
Speaker 1: perform it? Yeah? I mean it's you wrote it for
Speaker 1: the entire cast, but you you should read the whole thing. Okay.
Speaker 1: Wait did I get it? Okay? Yes, got it? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Ready are you playing the song? You hear that? Yeah? Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: I hope this email finds you out. I just want
Speaker 1: to tell you that I have some exciting new projects
Speaker 1: coming round. On Tuesday, October seven, I'm beginning rehearsals for
Speaker 1: a show at BAM adjacent a theater adjacent to BAM
Speaker 1: that promises to be one of the biggest artistic challenges
Speaker 1: of my life. It's a punk rock cabaret that tells
Speaker 1: the story of Macbeth using actors, sets, and a director.
Speaker 1: Please come if you can. I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 1: On Friday, October four, I will be telling stories at
Speaker 1: a storytelling show for storytellers in a park. I will
Speaker 1: be telling a story about the first time I masturbated
Speaker 1: at age three. I'm really excited about it. I'm also
Speaker 1: going to be releasing a comedy video in late November
Speaker 1: with some collaboratives from my comedy troupe. Asked Dick. That's
Speaker 1: Asked Dick, A S S D, I c K. Keep
Speaker 1: your eyes open for that. I'm really excited about it. Finally,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to announce that I'll be having a party
Speaker 1: for the debut of my Facebook status about my kickstarter
Speaker 1: for the new web series I'm developing with my roommate
Speaker 1: about roommates were making a web series, but I can't
Speaker 1: decide on how to promote their kickstarter. I'm really, really,
Speaker 1: really excited about it. I can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: at all these adventures. Yours in love and Light and
Speaker 1: it's everyone's name in the group. I think it holds up,
Speaker 1: but like, look, this is from It's fine. It's very funny,
Speaker 1: but and the present that the way we presented it,
Speaker 1: that show is very like like the most bloated like
Speaker 1: theater troupe in the world. Wait, but what year was
Speaker 1: this this is from? Um wow, yeah six years ago.
Speaker 1: I probably wrote it seven years ago. So just so
Speaker 1: you know, these kind of pervasive emails about what people
Speaker 1: have going on have been have been going on, have
Speaker 1: been going on, you know, for far too long. As
Speaker 1: when I'm saying, I just love when someone writes a
Speaker 1: very long email that's about h that's about like nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: and they expect you to read every word of it.
Speaker 1: They just shouldn't be that long. That's all. That's that's
Speaker 1: all just like or or linked to a longer thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just it's it's it's
Speaker 1: funny to get the emails anyway. Yeah anyway, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so that was my I don't think so, honey. I
Speaker 1: feel like we had a really good discussion out of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really did. Really, it's just been were really are
Speaker 1: sort of experimenting with this episode. I really enjoyed it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't have to be over. I know
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be over. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I'm I I don't I don't mean to no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: breaks No, I'm not saying that you were. Can we
Speaker 1: not fight? When can we not find? I'm sorry? When's
Speaker 1: the last time we fought? Fought? Wasn't you know what?
Speaker 1: I remember? The last time you get irritated with me?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? I remember a big blowout fight between me,
Speaker 1: you and Sudy was in Palm Springs. That was definitely
Speaker 1: one really big fight. It was a big one. And
Speaker 1: what was the theory? What was the visas of that? Oh,
Speaker 1: never mind, they don't need to know. But that's that
Speaker 1: we all like treat each other poorly, That's all. It's
Speaker 1: that it was. It was in relation to how we
Speaker 1: were treating each other. Yes, um, but wait what was?
Speaker 1: And then I remember you you consistently get annoyed with
Speaker 1: me in hotels because I'm the one that comes down last.
Speaker 1: That's our most consistent. Yeah, but you were about to
Speaker 1: like reference a fight recently that we've had that I
Speaker 1: don't think I remember. No, no, no, no, no, that
Speaker 1: I don't remember us have I don't think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's been a really long time since we've had
Speaker 1: an argument, or maybe we've just gotten we've just both
Speaker 1: gotten better out avoiding them. I know. Here's what I
Speaker 1: want to ask, because it's it's just so buried under
Speaker 1: so much stuff now, even though it wasn't that long ago,
Speaker 1: but was. But on the subject of traveling, was I
Speaker 1: good to travel with? Um? You were good to travel
Speaker 1: with I think that I don't have any negative memory
Speaker 1: rais traveling with you. I I would say that there
Speaker 1: was that one moment where we were all traveling together
Speaker 1: and you were gonna get sick on the plane, and
Speaker 1: that was not good. Never forget, I will never what
Speaker 1: you were in the room. I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I was wrong. I was not being I
Speaker 1: was not being supportive and tolerant. But one was getting
Speaker 1: very sick on a plane to Chicago, and we were
Speaker 1: I don't know why we were circling in the air
Speaker 1: above the airport. I think I think there's some some
Speaker 1: some like tarmac issue. But we had descended and then
Speaker 1: we immediately sort of turn our noses up. The plane
Speaker 1: sort of turned up again and started circling Chicago and
Speaker 1: tight turns, tight little circles, and I was getting air sick. Um.
Speaker 1: And then Matt sort of turned to me and said, well,
Speaker 1: I said, stopped. She was like, what would you say?
Speaker 1: I said, please stop doing that. You did say it
Speaker 1: like that, you were like so I was like, I
Speaker 1: I believed at the time that I could have been No,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't know, you really don't.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know if you were in a mood
Speaker 1: or whatever. And also I'll tell you where it was
Speaker 1: coming from. It was coming from a real, real, real thing.
Speaker 1: Know that was if you were going to throw up.
Speaker 1: I was going to throw up and that would have
Speaker 1: been really bad. And because like I am not good
Speaker 1: with that, Like you know, I don't love like any
Speaker 1: type of gore. And so when you were gonna vomit
Speaker 1: and you were being so performative about it, I kind
Speaker 1: of just felt like, Oh, he should just do it
Speaker 1: or not like this whole like hemming and hang about
Speaker 1: whether or not the will they are won't they him?
Speaker 1: And the barf bag? I can't. They should just consummate
Speaker 1: this relationship at once. And I remember that we or
Speaker 1: don't we fought at David Siduraw's apartment. Didn't hear that?
Speaker 1: Because you and I were sleeping at David Sorrow's apartment.
Speaker 1: We were you were sleeping on the floor, I was
Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch because we were there for the
Speaker 1: Chicago Sketch Fest. Yeah. I don't remember fighting though. No,
Speaker 1: we we like had like a continuation of that of
Speaker 1: the final No really in Dave's living room. I think
Speaker 1: David just kind of like stood by and watched us,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of sad. I felt bad. We
Speaker 1: love you well, we love you. I I don't think
Speaker 1: it was that big of a deal. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at us now, but wait, yeah, yeah, no, we we've
Speaker 1: been pretty good. I but I just I have such
Speaker 1: fond memories of us, of us touring I loved. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess the one thing is, do you wish, especially
Speaker 1: now going in retrospect, do you wish that when we
Speaker 1: were in all those cities, like we we could have
Speaker 1: gone out more? Because I feel like but we didn't
Speaker 1: have a chance to for a lot of the cities. No,
Speaker 1: because you and I both do like our sleep and
Speaker 1: the we for some reason we're booking that well, we
Speaker 1: had to for scheduling when we were touring, book the
Speaker 1: fights so early that there was no chance to go out,
Speaker 1: Like I remember, we didn't go out and like um
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Yeah, we didn't go out in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: We didn't go out and like, well, we did go
Speaker 1: out in Austin. We actually raged in Austin withdrawal. We did.
Speaker 1: We didn't, but we like didn't go out in Seattle.
Speaker 1: That was such a bummer. Didn't really go out in
Speaker 1: Portland and that was so fun. Well, we sort of
Speaker 1: went out in Portland, and I wish we had been
Speaker 1: out longer because oh my god, that was that That
Speaker 1: night was kuko bananas because that there's a guy in
Speaker 1: Portland that I like, it was hot. Do you remember.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember, and I remember we were leaving
Speaker 1: and I was like, do you think that that guy
Speaker 1: was interested? And you were like he was touching, like
Speaker 1: he was so indoo yeah, and I remember I was
Speaker 1: like no, because that is that is such a thing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just I just don't know when someone is
Speaker 1: don't do dare it's going to be like you didn't
Speaker 1: know the words to enchanted. We should at least do
Speaker 1: a hook. And it was an enchanted night. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He some nights. I have some nights I just kicked myself,
Speaker 1: you know, oh, don't do that. They'll come back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing about those miss connections is hell of
Speaker 1: a masturbation, SESSI later, I know, isn't so fun. You
Speaker 1: just have you have so much, there's so much potential
Speaker 1: there to think about. God, you know, it probably was
Speaker 1: so thrilling. Masturbating is like a Chase Victorian woman who
Speaker 1: like never knew of such tawdry things. And then when
Speaker 1: they got like and they probably were so pent up
Speaker 1: that when they finally flicked their bean, that was probably
Speaker 1: like a fucking horror film in the best way. But
Speaker 1: I think I feel like you need to see it.
Speaker 1: Probably all that the way your eyes rolled back, because
Speaker 1: I was I was picturing myself flicking my being this
Speaker 1: like sort of like a you know, like Chase Victorian one.
Speaker 1: I guess it is really into. I mean now it's
Speaker 1: like I've I've I've seen so much and poor that
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I've seen it all. I've seen
Speaker 1: it all. It feels so by the numbers, not by
Speaker 1: the numbers, but it's like I just do it and
Speaker 1: it's done. Do you have a favorite star these days? Um?
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah? Who is it? I are you shy
Speaker 1: to say? I guess so? No, say it's his job.
Speaker 1: I I love I love me, do you know cadematics? Yes,
Speaker 1: of course. I feel like he's like he's like, this
Speaker 1: is him peaking, like this is like the prime of
Speaker 1: his career. He's doing he's doing wonderful things about For me,
Speaker 1: it's well, I pay for it. Oh, it's some only
Speaker 1: fans people too, some great only fans folks. Are some
Speaker 1: great only fans folks out there, but I actually pay
Speaker 1: for gay hoopla. There's this guy Dustin Hazel who is
Speaker 1: very much it. And there's this other guy Mason, and
Speaker 1: also this guy Jaden Marcos and also um, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you are just oh my god, this guy, oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of good stuff happening on there.
Speaker 1: There's I'm sure, I'm sure he might actually appreciate this.
Speaker 1: But there's there's an only fans sort of like cult
Speaker 1: star right now, Bolyn his name is, his name is
Speaker 1: Considerate Top. He doesn't show his face. Considerate Top sort
Speaker 1: of like damage Bottom. There you go, he's Considerate Top.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do his face. He's Asian, gorgeous, where's a
Speaker 1: jade pendant? And all of his videos and he I
Speaker 1: think he's like finding some success and only fans and
Speaker 1: he's and and I have and lovely in real life.
Speaker 1: But in real life, I mean like just like he's
Speaker 1: he's a swifty. So when folklore came out, Wait, how
Speaker 1: do you know he's a swifty because I didn't know
Speaker 1: about his only fans until folklore came out and he
Speaker 1: deemed me and was just like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: this is so exciting, and it was like and then
Speaker 1: like his picture is just like this like in Insane Torso,
Speaker 1: so I was just like, who's this person? And then
Speaker 1: stumbled on the only fans and then it was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what a gorgeous portal into this world? And
Speaker 1: how did you find that he was a swift? Because
Speaker 1: he deemed me when folklore came out, and like it
Speaker 1: was just like, isn't this so exciting? I might have
Speaker 1: to cough up the dollars for that one. Oh he's reasonable.
Speaker 1: I think he's like a like a seven and also
Speaker 1: a Swiss it sport. He's one of my tailor nation Taylor,
Speaker 1: you know, have you been have you been keeping up
Speaker 1: with folklore at all? The transition from porn to folklore,
Speaker 1: the way we transitioned from the way we did that
Speaker 1: one I was talking to someone the other day, but
Speaker 1: how um, it's a lovely album. But you know, I
Speaker 1: I tweeted from the LC account today because I saw
Speaker 1: the way you've been doing that the way that I'm
Speaker 1: going to say it. And this is actually not an
Speaker 1: opinion I held before until you and I hung out
Speaker 1: in l A a a few months ago and we just
Speaker 1: put it on and we didn't skip. But the way
Speaker 1: Reputation might be the best Tay Law album. Thank you
Speaker 1: for saying that, because so many people out here are
Speaker 1: racing Reputation. Because I even think back half it, just
Speaker 1: the last four songs, I'm like, who cares, You're you're
Speaker 1: speaking general truth right now. I think if you were
Speaker 1: to actually look at the last four songs on nine,
Speaker 1: you'd take that back a little bit. But I think
Speaker 1: the sentiment is not incorrect that reputation is a more
Speaker 1: complete artistic output. This is what I was telling you
Speaker 1: that night that we listened to it, though, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's special about this album is that there
Speaker 1: is an actual like like red, It's like okay about
Speaker 1: like the moods of the way that like you know,
Speaker 1: love is sort of synesthetic. Um, and I guess speak
Speaker 1: now is about like fantasy settings, like you speak up
Speaker 1: at a wedding or your you meet a prints at
Speaker 1: the ball whatever. Um, Fearless is just sort of like
Speaker 1: clean crisp country, but there's no like messaging. It was
Speaker 1: really I think she was she was fearless in the
Speaker 1: way that she was saying how she really feels. You know.
Speaker 1: That's like very very basic, very basic. Lover is like
Speaker 1: a little too general, but it's her sort of being
Speaker 1: more like revisiting her like warm thur or whatever. And
Speaker 1: then folklore is just about like solitude or or generally
Speaker 1: speaking something like that. I believe it's actually more of
Speaker 1: a concept album than then people are giving a credit for.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's really to make
Speaker 1: contemporary myth happen. And I think it, Okay, see that's perfect.
Speaker 1: That's perfect, And this might actually be over valued over
Speaker 1: what I think reputation is about, which is holding onto
Speaker 1: like your own self convictions when there's a ship storm
Speaker 1: happening outside of you. That's about. Yeah. Reputation I think
Speaker 1: is about like aggressively trying to fight for and uphold
Speaker 1: your narrative personal and public. And I think it is
Speaker 1: like it's it's and it also sounds like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like matches the message. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it it manages to work on so many levels. And
Speaker 1: I think is is so much more than what people
Speaker 1: give it credit for, because I think people just think, oh,
Speaker 1: that's her album where she got a little bit like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, darker and hip hop and or used hip
Speaker 1: hop and got more like um bitch thinksty But I
Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. I actually look at
Speaker 1: it like just as valid as red or folklore. I
Speaker 1: just think that, honestly, I do think it might have
Speaker 1: something to do with the fact that she is like, um, like,
Speaker 1: she really did grab headlines there for a second, and
Speaker 1: even in not attempting to, she was she was just
Speaker 1: playing with the media too much for it to get
Speaker 1: that real critical. It did not get the critical flowers.
Speaker 1: It was too It was too incorporated and ingratiated with
Speaker 1: the idea of her fame. Which I think makes people
Speaker 1: who give music accolades uncomfortable. Is that she's like so
Speaker 1: such a capital P pop star. Um but when she
Speaker 1: like it makes her quote unquote musician the albums they
Speaker 1: love her, and I just think it's kind of bullshit.
Speaker 1: That reputation is not thought of in that same way
Speaker 1: because it is just as good. Blank Space is her
Speaker 1: most self aware song, but like the reputation is her
Speaker 1: most self aware sort of statement as an artist. I
Speaker 1: think I don't know that's that's that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: And Folk Clear You're Right is more like is more
Speaker 1: sort of American mythical like with reputation. At least she
Speaker 1: feel like a Popper's album, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's such a great Popper's album. She gave you like
Speaker 1: a Popper's album in a way that like, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see if Adel does We'll see, We'll see, We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see if we'll see if I'm curious to see
Speaker 1: if this our album next week is going to be
Speaker 1: a Popper's album. Sleepy. I heard that it is a
Speaker 1: very good but good in what way because it's like
Speaker 1: thank you next and and um Sweetener. I think like
Speaker 1: there was an after sort of effect where we all
Speaker 1: sort of with distance, where like, oh, those are actually
Speaker 1: great albums. I could never say, I could never say
Speaker 1: how I know this, but I know that camp Arianna
Speaker 1: is very happy about it, okay, okay, and that and
Speaker 1: that the video is going to be something else. Basically,
Speaker 1: what I'm asking is it box or is it like sleepy? Great?
Speaker 1: Love it? That's that's all I care about. But also,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's balanced. I'm sure it's like balanced out.
Speaker 1: You might have to think about the way you you
Speaker 1: ink of Bob's Also, I don't know much. All I
Speaker 1: know is that apparently it's really fucking good and the
Speaker 1: video is going to be cool. That's really all I know. Um,
Speaker 1: which is I think? Good news? Great? I love it?
Speaker 1: I love it? Okay, maybe we end on Ariana? Is
Speaker 1: that weird? Is she really the musician that's dominated this episode?
Speaker 1: I want you to I knew you'd ask women. Listen
Speaker 1: to your heart, and in your heart you will find
Speaker 1: the answer to the question of who is the musician
Speaker 1: that has dominated this episode? And only in your heart
Speaker 1: with that answer A live it is it? Taylor in
Speaker 1: the middle of night? Madies you? Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: going to listen to that, Alum. I put it on
Speaker 1: today and I was like, this is a really good album.
Speaker 1: What song are you going to pop? The poppers too?
Speaker 1: On that album? I know? Mine? Dancing with her hands,
Speaker 1: Ted Dancing with her hands, Ted I'm gonna do it too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it to dress and absolutely back in
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Come on, think about it. That's really good.
Speaker 1: That's really good. Just kidding. I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: to the song this love good, I have nice I could,
Speaker 1: I can do it that I can do with that
Speaker 1: that track when she goes if you're on poppers, When
Speaker 1: she goes, oh my god, your butt hole falls off
Speaker 1: and walks away, she says, I'm going on a vacation.
Speaker 1: That's my impression of your bottle. She says, I'm going
Speaker 1: on a vacation. We got to end another grounded impression,
Speaker 1: another well lived in impression. Well, it's been among the
Speaker 1: more chaotic episodes of Las Colturesta's and it didn't even
Speaker 1: need a guest. Isn't it funny that we literally were
Speaker 1: like it's an academic episode last week and now this
Speaker 1: week is like super Lupa, Well, do a leap. I'm
Speaker 1: more like super Lupa do a leap, and more like
Speaker 1: Sue Lupa. I feel like you know, the reaction from
Speaker 1: last week's episode was mixed. We love the people who
Speaker 1: enjoyed our book club and who are reading along with us,
Speaker 1: but some people really got pretty brazen in the comments,
Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, um, this one was a snooze, Like,
Speaker 1: do not like kill that instinct? Honestly, if you have
Speaker 1: the instinct to like this, and this only applies to
Speaker 1: me and Matt, I'm gonna say it. If you want
Speaker 1: to say something stupid, no, no, don't even say it
Speaker 1: to us. I don't want I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: And this and you can say it to someone else,
Speaker 1: but this only applies to me and Mett. We are
Speaker 1: the sort of moral exceptions to this, not more but
Speaker 1: sort of whatever. Remember what we said, Remember what we
Speaker 1: said this episode. If you step up, throw hand, see
Speaker 1: me with them dukes. If anyone ever this is our
Speaker 1: second episode in a If anyone ever comes for Bowen Yang,
Speaker 1: you better have done a lot of karate in your life,
Speaker 1: because I'm coming on, I'm coming. You better know how
Speaker 1: to defend yourself. If anyone comes for Matt Rogers, it
Speaker 1: would take such a little effort for me to ruin
Speaker 1: your life. And I'm not even saying physically, I will spiritually, spiritually, cellularly,
Speaker 1: security wise, will make you feel unsafe about your circumstances
Speaker 1: in life, and that's all I'll say. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: If you listening right now at home, ever come for
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang, I will send the curses of all the
Speaker 1: witches of my family. And my family is very cursed.
Speaker 1: My family comes from a long line of curses, charms
Speaker 1: and spells, and I have no qualms as to well,
Speaker 1: just say about summoning the powers of my people, the Rogers,
Speaker 1: which is you've never known. If anyone listening comes from
Speaker 1: my friend Matt Rogers, I will set fire to the rain,
Speaker 1: to the rain, what's wow? That song kind of sounds
Speaker 1: like a spell. Oh, if you do it like a witch,
Speaker 1: we gotta stop.