WEBVTT - SYSK Live: The DB Cooper Heist 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.200 Hey everybody. Chuck here with another call for guests for 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.480 Movie Crush, my new show debuting November three, where I 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.320 sit down with famous people to talk about their all 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.480 time favorite movie. So if you are a secret celebrity listener, 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.840 get in touch with me at movie Crush at how 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.960 stuff Works dot com, especially if you happen to be 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.680 filming in Atlanta, where our studios are, because in person 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.360 is always best, but we can always do it remotely 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.320 with partner studios. All right, Thanks a lot, and look 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:37.680 out for Movie Crush November three. Hey, friends, this is Chuck. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.120 Just wanted to intro this show really quickly because it 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.400 is from the archive. It's a live show that we 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.960 did on our tour last year, all about the mysterious 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.440 disappearance of sky jacker d B. Cooper. And this was 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:55.000 recorded live in Seattle, Washington at the Neptune Theater and 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.640 it was one of the best shows on the tour 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.160 and we hope you enjoy it. And keep in mind 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.120 this is recorded before we found out more recent news 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.440 about the dB Cooper case, so that stuff has happened 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:11.200 since then. But please to enjoy, Welcome to stuff you 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:20.240 should know from How Stuff Works dot com hey, and 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.440 welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.760 Chuck Bryant, and we are here live at the Beautiful 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:58.920 Neptune Theater and beautiful Seattle and beautiful Washington. Thank you guys, phenomenal. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.800 I'm already a sweaty mess, so that must mean we're 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.200 on stage. We're off to a great start. That must 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.960 mean I'm awake or yeah, I sweat my sleep too, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:16.359 big time gross, I'm always wiping his brows. What movie 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:21.239 we're gonna watch tonight in the hotel? Is a spy 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.160 out yet? And we can leave the seat up on 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.119 the toilet? I don't. I don't do that. I don't 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.720 either because I pee sitting down because I'm forty five 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:36.160 years old. Do you really well, yeah, I might as 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:41.760 well get into it. Um, what do you do too? 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:48.359 Why we never talked about this? I started being sitting 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.000 down during the middle of the night, Get up because 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.080 if it just makes sense, because you don't want to 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.520 wake up too much and you don't want to like 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.680 make a mess. And then I think I just hit 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.320 a certain an age where I was like, it's just 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.920 nicer to sit down. I don't need to prove anything 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:11.600 to anyone. Huh, you landed your lady, You're all set. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.520 I stand when I pee off my deck at night, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.959 I don't do that. I live in a condo complex. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:24.200 They it's not good man. I feel like an enormous weight. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.160 It's just been lifted off. I can't believe that you're 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.480 not even forty years old yet and you pee sitting down. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:40.080 Let's let's start the podcast. Are there other guys out 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.680 there that peace sitting down? All right? We're starting a movement, baby, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:51.680 it's right. Your ladies will appreciate it. Oddly, I pooped 0:03:51.680 --> 0:04:00.360 standing up. This is so off. The rails are like 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.320 like in in conversation. Let's be sitting there talking to him. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.000 You're like, you're pooping right now, aren't you. It's like 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.880 it's more efficient this way. I get more done. We 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.840 should probably start over. We should. We're gonna get off 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.600 stage and come back out. I can't believe what we've 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.240 been talking about here this evening already. Okay, let's I'll 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.920 just take it down the notch all right. Uh so 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.440 we're podcasting. We're about to start podcasting. I think I 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.080 already started the podcast. Oh god, which means that's gonna 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.440 be on like the thing we That's why I said 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:40.920 we should start over. The stays here everybody, it's all 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:50.440 our secret, right, Okay, Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.080 I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. We are 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:58.120 live here at the beautiful Neptune Theater in Seattle, Washington. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:18.160 M hmm, man, times two's better. It's an in joke. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:29.040 People will be like even better than what h really m. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.640 There's a lot of there's more crossover between our fans 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:37.200 and Howard Stern than our fans and Mariners fans. I think, boy, 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:42.440 there's a venn diagram out there that's uh confusing me already. Okay, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.440 so Chuck, yes, this is a little bit of history. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.839 So we're gonna go back in the way back machine. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:57.880 That's right, Dud's if you listen to the PR Live podcast, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.680 you know that, like the way back Machine is a 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:05.119 mad scenario stif settled down. They heard that live. Yeah 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.320 that was a good one too. There are PR professionals 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:15.120 here because they emailed me today. Yeah, I can tell 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:25.360 the PR professional So we're going back to a cold, stormy, rainy, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:32.560 pretty nasty Thanksgiving Eve in and the story begins at 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.320 p d X Portland Airport and a man walked into 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.159 pd X, took a picture of his shoe on the carpet, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:45.360 and then walked along to the Northwest Orient Airlines ticket 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.000 desk and he walked up and he said, Hi, I 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:53.320 am really interested in finding more about flight three oh five, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.080 the flight to Seattle. Would that happen to be a 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.520 Boeing seven seven Dash one hundred airplane that you guys 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:06.960 are gonna fly on that route? And the ticket agment, Yes, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.240 as a matter of fact, it is. And the man 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:14.000 said that it's fantastic. Here's my twenty dollars one ticket 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.440 please for a one way ticket between Portland's and Seattle 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.520 aboard flight three oh five. And she was like, that's 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.960 a weird question, but I guess he's very specific about 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.760 what kind of plane he likes to fly on. Plus 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.120 it's one and I'm in no position to publicly question 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.400 a man, so I'll just go along with this. It's 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:39.160 very true, and it was twenty dollars for that flight. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.760 This is a very seventies podcast, so uh. They handed 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.320 him as little ticket voucher and said, just filled this out, sir. Uh. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.720 Don't need the C I D because it's nineteen seventy one. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.200 All right, just tell us who you are or whoever 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.320 you want us to think you are. And he wrote 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.280 down in big block letters in a red ink pin, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:02.400 Dan Cooper, if you know where we're going with this song. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.239 So the Bowing seven Dash one hundred is every single 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.800 person in this room knows is a smallish plane. It's 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.440 not the biggest planet in the Bowing fleet's not the 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.120 smallest either, but it's the only one that had an 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.320 aft staircase. Right, And this particular flight flying aboard this 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.080 Bowing seven seven Dash one flight three oh five had 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.520 a crew of five aboard it. There was Captain William Scott, 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:33.280 not Sewan William Scott. We figured out later on that 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.480 would have made zero sense had he had a former 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.560 life in the seventies as an airline pilot. UH CO 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.000 pilot Robert Radazak. There's a se in there for those 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.559 of you who like that kind of thing. Um and uh. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.199 There were three flight attendants. There's a head flight attendant 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.400 who was named Alice Hancock, right, and then too, I 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.679 guess regular flight attendants. Tina mcclough, who's a hero of 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.840 ours and Florence Shafterer, I think they called him stewarts 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.439 Is back then, to be fair. But we're forward thinking guys, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.319 so we're gonna go ahead and say flight AT's ended. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.319 We don't use the sport you just make well, never mind, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.920 never mind, We've done quite enough extraneous stuff, right, No, 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.160 So Dan Cooper gets on the plane. There's thirty seven 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.760 other passengers because again it was the seventies, they didn't 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.680 overbook flights back then, and say I'm sorry you bought 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.400 a ticket, but you really can't fly on this flight. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.640 Thirty seven passengers, pretty empty, and Dan Cooper seats sits 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.680 in seat eighteen. C uh. They for him up a 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.360 bourbon and seven up and he lights up a cigarettette 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:43.560 because this ninety one you can smoke on planes. And uh, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.880 he looked to be about in his mid forties. He was, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.920 you know, kind of look like the men of the time, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.640 which is to say, you either looked by seventy one, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.880 either looked a little more like Don Draper kind of 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.120 holding on to that fifties look, or you look like 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.880 Charles Manson. He looked a little more like Don Draper. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:03.640 Had the suit, had the skinny tie, and then we 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.480 should talk a little bit about the suit. The suit 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.080 was a russet colored suit, which was like that weird 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:12.920 burgundy brown color that's potato colored it right, And it 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.960 just so happened that he was wearing this suit during 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.440 the one six month period in history where you could 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.640 wear that color suit out in public, So he was okay. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.400 And then his skinny tie was a clip on from J. C. Penny. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:31.040 That's right. He had a imitation Mother of Pearl type in. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.840 He had an overcoat, he had a hat, he had 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.920 a bag like a briefcase, and he had these black 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:44.880 corn rim sunglasses. Um, dark kind of olive skin. Would 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.199 you say? They call him swarthy, which I think is 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.560 like stewardess that's been phased out, you know what I mean? 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.640 I thought swarthy. I thought that was like a sea captain. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.720 I'm sure there were swarthy sea captains because yeah, because 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.559 they're out in the sun, so they ended up getting 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:07.800 olive skinned. That's uh rugged, Okay, you're thinking of the 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:12.199 Gordon's fisherman. Oh right, Oh, he was swarthy. He swarthy 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.800 as h so uh he had h he had this 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.400 kind of dark wavy hair, um and other than that, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.920 he was just sort of an unremarkable dude. He wanted 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.000 to blend in right. Well, yeah, okay, so this guy's 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.960 sitting in a teen C. He's being unremarkable aside from 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.120 wearing the sunglasses. He's smoking with his left hand. She 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.880 has nothing to do with anything, but we just kind 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.880 of wanted to show off how much research we've done 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:41.040 on this. And uh, when Florence Shaffner, the flight attendant 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.559 working his area, comes over, um and gives him his 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.000 bourbon and I think seven up right, yeah, Um, he 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.319 hands her a note and to Florence Shaffner, she was 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.880 twenty three, she was very pretty. She was at the 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.040 time a stewardess, and um, this happened to her all 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.960 the time, like businessmen drinking sevens and sevens like pastor 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.120 notes and hit on her all the time. So when 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.560 this guy in a ten C, Dan Cooper handed her 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.040 a note, she took the note and just put it 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.440 in her flight apron without looking at it, and turned 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:19.040 and walked away with all the other notes. Yeah from 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.880 all the men who wanted to rescue her from her 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:27.559 life come away with swarthy and so Dan Cooper sees 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.000 us and he goes, miss, uh, you may want to 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.960 have a look at that note. I have a bomb. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.880 I think you know where we're going with this, TB. Cooper. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.000 You know, we when we were coming here today, we're like, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.640 how we're really rolling the dice. It's entirely possible that 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.040 everyone here had the dB Cooper case drilled into them 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.080 from like third grade on. That's not the cases didn't 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.360 study in classes. I told that to you, me and you. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.240 He was like, that's so dumb. She's like, the do 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.360 you know everything about the burning of Atlanta? And I 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.280 said no, And she's like, no, no, you don't, And 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.719 they don't know everything about dB Cooper. And I went 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:14.880 back to sleep. So this was um not the first 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.360 commercial airplane hijacking. It actually the first one was in 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:25.719 and remarkably um between nineteen, just three years earlier. In 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.080 the time dB Cooper hijacked this plane, there were one 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.440 hundred commercial hijackings in three years. Yeah, so this is 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.160 not new. It was not new, but I remember, like 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.560 if anyone here grew up in like the seventies and stuff, 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.360 it was a thing like planes got hijacked all the 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.319 time because you could bring guns and bombs on planes 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.920 and you didn't need I D. No one cared, and 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.800 we were like, hmm, this is weird. Yeah, that's pretty 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.959 much where the FBI was at the time. And by 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.800 nineteen seventy one they were just starting to like get 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.160 hip to the idea of hijackings being a problem. And 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.480 so their first idea was, well, we'll put an air 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.000 marshal on every flight. And then they looked at the 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.760 schedule of flights in the United States and they're like, oh, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.800 this may have been a bad idea, but it was 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.960 a fine idea. If everyone, if like a third of 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.800 the population of the United States where air marshals, and yeah, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.040 it was a good idea. It's a good idea. One 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.400 of every like three hundred flights with a right right 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.840 and the other two open for hijacking. Right. So this 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.560 was they figured out after a few years, like the 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.960 logistics of American air trap. Hoover's idea. By the way, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.560 he was still in charge of the FBI. Yeah, so 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.800 he'd been there for about fifty years, right, So his 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.160 idea was airon Marshall's didn't work, um, but they were 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.600 still trying it. There was no air marshal on flight 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.600 three oh, five, the dB Cooper hijacking flight. Yeah, they're 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.080 like Portland to Seattle. Maybe we should put like three 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.440 air marshals on that one, right, And I mean it 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.680 made sense that there would not be an air marshal 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.400 on that flight because most high jackings were crazed lone 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.640 gunman with a handgun who wanted to be taken to 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:10.080 Cuba for political reasons. Basically, no one flying from PDX 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.560 to c Tech wanted to be taken to Cuba, so 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.520 there was no reason for an air marshal to be 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.120 on the flight. It was a pretty good bet to 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.280 not have an air marshal on. They just didn't expect B. B. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.320 Cooper because he was a pretty novel person. The idea 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.800 of a single guy taking control of a flight for 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.640 money with a bomb that was new and like our 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.720 whole conception of mad bomber hijacking a flight comes from D. B. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:40.840 Cooper and sunny bonus character and airplane too. This is 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.440 actually I did a little more research between nine and 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.440 seventy nine. It's literally referred to as the Golden age 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.760 of sky chacking. I was talking to Josh, It's like, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.280 I didn't know that you could have I thought a 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.080 golden age was about something good. I didn't know you 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:59.200 could have the golden age of dysentery the good old days. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.640 It was good for the hijackers because they could get 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.880 away with it no problem. Maybe that's who wrote that, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.120 the Golden age of skuyjacking man. Alright, so, uh, Floren Schaffner, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:14.000 I'm sorry. Shaffer reads the note and she says, uh, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.560 you know what, give me our Cooper says, you know what, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.560 give me that note back, which is a very key 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.720 thing because that means they won't have a sample of 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.840 his handwriting. So he asked for the note back, and 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.200 from that point on he uh did not converse like 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.840 everything else. He had them right down to take to 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.160 the captain so they would have no more like physical 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.440 evidence of his handwriting. Yeah. The only handwriting sample he 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.840 had was that ticket duplicate and it was in block letters, 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:42.880 which he went like this. So she sits down and 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.520 she says, uh, you know, I want to know that 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.400 this is legit, this is for real. Can I can 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.320 I like get a look at that bomb that you're 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:54.040 talking about? Makes sense? And he shows her, right, Yeah, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.440 he gives her look. Peak he opened her his bag 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.320 just enough and she went to put her fingers in 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:03.400 any stamped shot and she went just like pretty woman. Yeah, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.359 and uh, but she sees what you know, she sees 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.439 red sticks of dynamite and a battery and and I 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.199 guess presumably like an alarm clock with two two bells 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.920 on it. Right, it's got like a skull and cross boones. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.000 It's like he says, you die or something. Electrical tape 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.480 is all around it. Because he watched a lot of cartoons. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.199 He knows how to make a bomb. Well, she I 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.439 mean she bought it clearly. Um, she saw the bomb 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.400 and she uh took down a note. He said, take 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.199 this down. I have a ransom demand. He said, I 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.320 want two hundred thousand dollars by five pm in cash. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.280 Put it in a knapsack. I want two back parachutes 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.320 and two front parachutes when we land. I want a 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.200 fuel truck ready to refuel. No funny stuff. We're all 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:54.919 do the job, which is that was tough talk. In again, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.560 he watched a lot of cartoons. And that's what you 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.600 say when you mean business. Uh, that roughly is about 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.360 one point two million dollars today. Um, I think it's 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.880 a little low. If you're gonna go through a skyjacking. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.240 It's a lot of work for a million. Yeah, I 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:10.959 would have said, like, if you're gonna ask for two 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.960 d grand asked for three hundred or four hundred, that's 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.920 just me. I'm no skyjacker. So this is it turns 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.400 out to be the only threat that Dan Cooper makes 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.040 during the entire ordeal. He he is this very first 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.840 note that he gave up. So from that point on, 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.520 like I said, he dictated everything else, so they could 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.960 just pass notes back and forth. And aside from a 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.920 couple of conversations with the pilots on the cockpit phone 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.640 from the rear of the plane to the cockpit, uh, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.280 they didn't have any interaction the pilots whatsoever with Dan Cooper. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.280 So they were like almost no help whatsoever during the investigation. Right, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.240 and then the fact that he asked for two parachutes 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.240 was a stroke of brilliant because it did show his 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.840 hand to the FBI that he was going to jump 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.760 out of the plane with the ransom money. But it 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.440 also said FBI, I'm probably going to make a hostage 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.400 jump with me, so don't tamper with any of these parachutes, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.080 which if the FBI had would have been murder. But 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.119 we're talking about Jagre Hoover's FBI, so they may have 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.680 they may have tried just that. So it's pretty smart 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.919 that he asked for two pair because they didn't know 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.520 what he was gonna do, That's right. So Shaffner takes 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.080 that ransom note, gives it to Alice Hancock. She takes 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.720 it over to the pilot and the co pilot and uh, 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.200 well what did they do? Josh? You do a great pilot? 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:38.400 They called c Tech Airport and staid, uh, seat Tech, 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.600 we just wanna advise you. In a bit of a 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:46.400 fiddlesticks we got going on, Sonny Bono was taken control 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:54.920 of the planets dollars in negotiable American currency PM negotiable 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.720 American currency. Yeah, it's a very weird thing to ask 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.640 for it, it was. And so set Act was like, 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.359 we should probably call the cops, and the cops said 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.639 we should probably call the FBI. Well yeah, this was 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.440 the Seattle Police Department. In one They're like no, no, no, no, no, 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.480 we we don't deal with things like this. They're like, wait, wait, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.240 this guy doesn't want to go to Cuba. We don't understand, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.719 Like we're literally waiting for John Rambo to wander through town, right, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.200 so we can harass them just ten more years. Wait, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:28.080 that was Oregon, though, wasn't it? Okay? Pretty close? That 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:37.000 joke will kill tomorrow night. Yeah, man, Rambo joke, remember it. So, um, 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.879 all of a sudden, like there's all this crazy energy 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.680 going on down on the ground, right, So the FBI 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.240 comes in and um, they're they're trying to get the 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.920 money together. Um, They're like, you, we have an hour. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.760 You gotta give us more time. It's like, now you 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.360 can't have more time. They're like, Okay, that's fine, we'll 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.280 get all this stuff together. You guys are gonna have 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.840 to stay up there until we get everything ready for you. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.280 So the plane is circling Sea Tack, and they told 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:09.080 the passengers that, um, the plane was experiencing mechanical problems, 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.359 which I would have had a problem hearing, you know, 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.120 it wouldn't have Like I think they could have thought 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.680 that through a little more. It's it's coxperiencing mechanical problems. 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.840 So we're just gonna keep flying and to stay aloft. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:28.040 See what happens. Captain Scott as a gambling man so 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.119 everyone was drinking and smoking cigarettes, so they didn't care. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.520 They were hooking up in the bathroom. If it had 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.240 been Chuck, you would have been like, I told you, 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.240 we should have driven. It's nothing. Could have been to Portland. 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.560 So they had to circle for an hour, and they 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.880 ended up telling the passengers, we just need to burn 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.520 off some gas and everything will be fine. Right, and 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:54.439 the passengers apparently we're totally unaware that they've been hijacked. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.680 That's how cool Cooper was, right, But one passenger later said, 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.760 I had a pretty good feeling we've been hijacked. And 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.560 the press ball was like, shut up, get off the 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:10.119 day it was that next person. Um, so I was 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.520 at that game. Yeah, I was at that game seven. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.760 It was all right, he's that dude, you know any 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.760 remarkable event. Yeah, I was there. It was it was 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.119 I knew it was a hijacking. You really had me 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.719 stumped there for a second. I'm role playing games seven. 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:38.160 So C Tech is circling right there, circling, circling an hour, 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.800 killing time, but just burning off gas, and um Florence 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.639 Shaffner is has gone away to take the note to 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.280 Alice Handcocky takes notes to the cockpit. She's on the 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:54.080 relay team basically now, um and um dB Cooper says, well, 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.760 Dan Cooper says, hey, Tina McLoud, why don't you sit 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.320 beside me for a while. And she did, and she 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.399 ended up kind of taking a bit of a seat 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:07.360 in history, if you will feel allow us that terrible analogy. Um. 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.480 And she sat down and she got She spent a 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.760 lot of time with Dan Cooper and they ended up chatting, 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.000 and she said Dan Cooper kept a level head during 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.840 a very tense situation, like the whole time. And they 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.040 chatted about things like Tina muck claus home state, which 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.800 was Minnesota. They talked about a nearby Air Force base 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:25.960 and how long it took to drive to Sea Tach. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.359 It was like twenty minutes or something. You guys can 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.840 actually probably guess the air force base. We don't know, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.680 uh that one. And then um they also at one 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.960 point he looked out the window and he said, it 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.800 looks like we're over Tacoma. So all this would indicate 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.520 a lot to the FBI later on, right that this 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.880 guy was maybe a local. Yeah, I'm kind of curious, 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:51.840 could anyone here recognize Tacoma from an airplane from an 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:56.040 airplane airplane? Do they have a huge like field cut 0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:03.680 out of grass that says Tacoma corn. What are they saying? 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:16.760 I think they're saying coin. Yeah, the smell. Oh boy, 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.800 I knew that. I knew this would go over well. Here. 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.359 By the way, we didn't mention they diverted all the 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.960 other flights away from from Sea Tech at the time 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.840 because they wanted that to be the only plane in 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.320 the area. And to me, the most remarkable part of 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.800 this whole story is one of the other planes in 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.719 the air. The dude, the pilot, gets on and tells 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:43.000 everyone else on that plane what's going on. Well, he 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.360 like he patched into the calm link between flight three 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.600 oh five and Sea Tech for the listening enjoyment of 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:56.160 the passengers on his flight. It's insane. It's like, I'm sorry, 0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.679 we're delayed, but here's what's going on on another flight nearby. 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:05.200 All right, just sit back and listen to the Tulsa 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.960 tones of a sky jacking again. It was the seventies. 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.840 Everyone's drinking. They're like, this is remarkable, thank you, thank god, 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:18.280 it's not us. Everything's better when you're drinking, all right, 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.560 So he recognizes Tacoma, which apparently everyone in this room 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.200 could do. Right. We were impressed by that, but it's 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:35.440