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Speaker 1: Here we go our two New Year's eve. Ohio State

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Speaker 1: take it on Miami tonight. If Carson Beck plays pretty

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Speaker 1: well and it's not easy against the buck guys, I

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Speaker 1: think you have a competitive game. I like Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: I think their defense is the best in the country,

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Speaker 1: but I think Miami upfront is tough and physical. Miami

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Speaker 1: is a much better team today than they were eight

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, so they played very well. I thought they

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Speaker 1: should get in over Notre Dame. I liked them on

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Speaker 1: the road to be Texas A and M and I

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Speaker 1: think tonight could be. You know, I just think it's

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Speaker 1: hard for everybody to wrap their brains around how good

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Speaker 1: Indiana is. People say, well, Ohio State lost Indiana. Indiana

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Speaker 1: could be the best team in the country. They have

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the country. So if you look

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Speaker 1: at those games tonight, I college football playoff. To me,

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Speaker 1: if you love college football, you had to give up

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Speaker 1: some stuff to get here. It wasn't gonna be perfect.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you loved, loved bowl games.

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Speaker 1: They don't matter anymore. I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: love the SEC championship, Conference championships, getting the way. I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you love those classic rivalries. Some

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Speaker 1: will state, some won't. College football played with their food

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Speaker 1: for fifty years, and finally Fox and the SPN stepped

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Speaker 1: then and said, let the grown ups take over. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna look like a little bit of the NFL. It's

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Speaker 1: like boxing. It died. Why because not because you didn't

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Speaker 1: have good boxers run by promoters self serving promoters. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look around at college football was an eight

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Speaker 1: billion dollar industry with no CEO. You couldn't even get

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Speaker 1: the schedules right. So it's always been a sport that's

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Speaker 1: a great movie with a bad ending. At least now

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Speaker 1: the ending's good. I mean, you say what you want

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Speaker 1: starting tonight, the ending's great eight teams, a West Coast power,

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Speaker 1: blue bloods, newcomers. I mean the only thing that I

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Speaker 1: regret about this is that I wish Lane Kiffin had

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Speaker 1: stayed and just said, I'm gonna run the table. See

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Speaker 1: if I can win all these games. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they would be good enough to.

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Speaker 3: Win the Natty.

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen, you know, Lane

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Speaker 1: kiffen with Old Miss. Now it's you know, it's choppy ending.

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Speaker 1: But I think I think to me, college football felt

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Speaker 1: sometimes and I love it hoky and like tribal and

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Speaker 1: regional and provincial. It's like now it feels like players

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Speaker 1: get paid, players can transfer, We've got a real playoff system.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't going to be perfect, you know when you

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Speaker 1: started the Internet until today it's amazing, but there was

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Speaker 1: going to be some bad stuff on the Internet and AI.

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Speaker 1: You know, about ten years ago people talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Now we're in the throes of it and not going

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Speaker 1: to be pretty. What's it look like when we ultimately

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Speaker 1: get AI functional for everybody in the country, like the Internet.

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Speaker 1: So I look at college football, I like the ending's good.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting Miami in Ohio State tonight, Georgia, Old Miss, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Alabama blue Blood, new Guy in the Block, and Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech. I love the sport. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: With that. Greg Cosel forty six years NFL film stops by.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had Mike Vrabel on yesterday and I said,

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Speaker 1: do the Patriots play to his straints?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you always look at what your quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: You play to your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And I think one of the things that has really

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Speaker 4: And you know, there's so many quarterbacks now that are

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Speaker 4: to move. But the result often of quarterbacks that move

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Speaker 1: So we watched the Rams get beat by Atlanta, and

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Speaker 1: strangely like. We've seen Seattle win when Sam didn't play well.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the Niners win with Mac Jones. We've seen

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Speaker 1: was almost as if, I mean, he airmailed a couple throws,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, Matt, you are as good arm talent

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think that he just had a

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Speaker 3: And I think Stafford just did not have a good game.

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Speaker 4: But I would not use this game as a statement

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Speaker 4: as to what Matthew Stafford is. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: their run game has been very good for the most part.

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Speaker 4: It's just they don't have an explosive back, so you

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Speaker 3: Say there's something wrong with Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Now there's no question, even though he's not a true statue,

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Speaker 3: There's no question about that. That's true of any quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So Buffalo is fascinating. They're twenty third. They do a

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Speaker 1: lot of their scoring in the second half and in

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Speaker 1: the first half. They have been trailing in seven of

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Speaker 1: the last eight games in the second half, which is remarkable.

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Speaker 1: And I said this week it's remarkable they have the

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, first of all, they are a running

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Speaker 4: running the football. They're very limited to some degree in

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Speaker 4: the past game, Colin, because the one thing that they

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Speaker 4: at some point in this league, you need receivers on

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Speaker 4: therefore has to be highly schemed, and you know, sometimes

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Speaker 4: tremendous limitation on their past game. And the reality is,

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Speaker 3: Not the point.

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Speaker 4: But you know, those kinds of superman plays that can't

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Speaker 1: So let's talk Philadelphia. It's so interesting you were critical

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Speaker 1: So if you were an Eagles fan, they're going to

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Speaker 1: Do you like their momentum going into the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't think they did a very good job

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Speaker 4: on tape in the past game. This week, I thought,

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Speaker 4: although I thought Jalen Hurts played very well in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, and in the second.

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Speaker 4: In the second half, you know, they had those five

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Speaker 4: he didn't complete a pass. So it's very odd and

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Speaker 4: it's not his I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: it's very odd. But you know, their run game has

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Speaker 4: just not been what we've expected it to be all

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Speaker 4: the year, with the exception of a few moments, you know,

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Speaker 4: they're all line quite frankly, if you'll look at tape,

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Speaker 4: has not been very good. I think Cam Jurgens has

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Speaker 4: had a really difficult season at center. I think the

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Speaker 4: think at their core, Colin, they're a running football team.

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Speaker 3: They are a great defensive team, which they are now.

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Speaker 4: Their defense has led the league in points allowed over

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Speaker 4: the last eight weeks, and they have a quarterback who,

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Speaker 4: when he's at his best, is really good at understanding

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Speaker 4: his role within the structure of their entire team, doesn't

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Speaker 4: turn the ball over, executes in big moments. But they're

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Speaker 4: not a true passing team, So you know, I'd like

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Speaker 3: They I think they're capable of it, but they just don't.

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Speaker 1: So we know this to be true. There are offensive

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got to trust it. And Purdy does

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Speaker 1: is not it's run and shoot football from the seventies.

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Speaker 1: It's college college flag football. Nobody tackles. It's fifty two

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Speaker 1: to forty six, and a bunch of these big twelve

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks just didn't work. So now you look at it

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Speaker 1: and you think, well, now the NFL and college are

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Speaker 1: more closer aligned. In fact, I was talking to an

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Speaker 1: NFL coach probably three weeks ago, a really good NFL coach,

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Speaker 1: and he said, Fernanda Mendoza is an easy guy to

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Speaker 1: scout because so much of what Indiana does has NFL

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Speaker 1: guys and NFL schemes. So you can watch him and

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Speaker 1: see what he can do, and see what he can

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Speaker 1: and he's not an A plus prospect. He's a very

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Speaker 1: good prospect, he said, but it'll be an easy watch.

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Speaker 1: They're doing stuff that we do on Sunday, and that's

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Speaker 1: not always been the case with college football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a New Year's resolution guy, j Mac.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you are. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: wait till January first to get my act together. I

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Speaker 1: was talking to somebody today about that. You know, you

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Speaker 1: go to a gym in January and it's all packed

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Speaker 1: by March first. It's not. I uh, I can't. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think of something. I kind of think by

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times you're influenced when you're

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Speaker 1: a kid or you're in college, you're influenced by your environment.

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Speaker 1: By about thirty two, what you do is what you are,

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Speaker 1: and you're not influenced. You're more mature, you've got more

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Speaker 1: self awareness. You can't really change stuff. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess if you if somebody said stop smoking, or you'll

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Speaker 1: pass away. You'd stop doing that or eat better, or

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Speaker 1: you could. You know it's going to be destructive to

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Speaker 1: your life. But I think, by and large, early thirties

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Speaker 1: kind of you kind of are what you are. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've made a massive life change since thirty

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Speaker 1: two years old. I don't think I'm made or capable

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Speaker 1: of change. I think change is hard. I think eating amateurs.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm trying to think of a structural change I've

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Speaker 1: made in my life since thirty two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't have a lot of structure. You got

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Speaker 6: to fly by the seat of your pants. You know

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Speaker 6: this is a problem, you know, tighten it up, Colhard,

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Speaker 6: Come on, Jane mcruin news.

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Speaker 3: No, no, turn on the news.

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Speaker 1: This is the herd Line News, all right.

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Speaker 6: Raven Steelers will be the final game of the twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five regular season. Aaron Rodgers will it be his

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Speaker 6: final game in his storied career. Mike Tomlin was asked

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Speaker 6: about the potential that this could be the last time

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Speaker 6: we see Aaron Rodgers on a football field.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't know that I've taken time to

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Speaker 7: ponder that. I'm just committed to making sure that it's

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Speaker 7: not He's certainly been an awesome contributor to our efforts,

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Speaker 7: and not only from a talent perspective and an experienced perspective,

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Speaker 7: but just his professionalism, his relationship with the game, his

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Speaker 7: love for his teammates, and his willingness to help them

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Speaker 7: grow and get better and gain better understanding each and

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Speaker 7: every day has been has been cool to be a

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Speaker 7: part of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to be the prettiest game. I

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Speaker 1: think I would probably. I don't know how Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 1: going to move the ball. I really don't. They without

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, they don't have a one or a two

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Speaker 1: receiver and now Washington's out, so Friarmouth, Warren, cross your fingers,

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Speaker 1: don't turn it over. I think Pittsburgh could win if

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Speaker 1: they you know, Huntley throws a picks. I mean they

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's won games this year with the offense hasn't been good.

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Speaker 1: They do it about as much as anybody. They just

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Speaker 1: they can just kind of figure out. Mike Tomlin as

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Speaker 1: an underdog, figures out ways to inspire his team. I

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Speaker 1: could see them winning, honestly, seventeen sixteen or something like that.

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Speaker 6: It'll be low scoring, but it's interesting. The hold nostalgia

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Speaker 6: angle of Rogers. I don't get nostalgic for stuff like this,

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Speaker 6: you know, like I don't get into Hall of Fame speeches.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I had not given an ounce of thought.

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Speaker 6: If the Steelers lose this and Rogers is done, Okay,

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Speaker 6: he's done, He's retired, Like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Does that do anything for you? Are you like man

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Speaker 1: man that Aaron Rodgers? Like I No, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: already a Hall of Famer. What are his numbers this year?

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Speaker 1: Like I, what is his passer rating this year? He's

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Speaker 1: not really relevant enough for me to commit that to

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Speaker 1: memory or even close to it.

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Speaker 6: Like, he's not a top ten quarterback, So who cares?

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I haven't paid a lot of attention to Rodgers. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of rooting again, like I'm into like, let's

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Speaker 6: get some new stuff. I'm sick of the dead wood. Like,

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Speaker 6: you know, like Rogers has done. He's not a great

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Speaker 6: quarterback anymore. Can we see more brock perty? Can we

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Speaker 6: see more young guys?

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Speaker 1: I would say the Steeters role is pretty interesting. So

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Speaker 1: he always completed sixty five percent of his throws, Okay,

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Speaker 1: ninety five passer rating. When you consider this franchise, run

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Speaker 1: game history, O line history, last seven years, I think

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Speaker 1: he's overachieved. If you would have told me, wait, they

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Speaker 1: overachieved this year. Yeah, if you had have told them

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Speaker 1: coming in here, twenty three touchdowns, seven picks, ninety five

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Speaker 1: passer rating and they make the playoffs if they win Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I would have been not shocked. I would have said,

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Speaker 1: oh god, I take that absolutely, take it to the bank.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go back to the Jets days. So I

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Speaker 1: think Aaron has more than lifted his weight here. I

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Speaker 1: think Aaron's been Honestly, this is the most impressed I've

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Speaker 1: been with Aaron since maybe one of the MVP years

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay when he had Lafleur and a better

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Speaker 1: Old Line and a better culture. Offensively, I think Aaron's

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Speaker 1: been impressive. I really do.

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Speaker 6: So that got me thinking, you were, you know, taking

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Speaker 6: some jazz at Lebron earlier. It's over Lebron's old. Lebron's

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Speaker 6: putting up great numbers with the Lakers this year. Who's

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Speaker 6: having a better year in their forties Lebron with the

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Speaker 6: Lakers right now or Aaron Rodgers this season with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Aaron, because I think Aaron's Aaron's yards and completions are

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Speaker 1: elevating an average team to wins Lebron His plus minus

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Speaker 1: is one of the worst on the Lakers. He gets

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Speaker 1: in the way defensively. Aaron's absolutely a plus. Aaron's absolutely

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Speaker 1: in terms of decision making. He doesn't turn the ball

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Speaker 1: over much, he pre snap, he gets you out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: I mean without DK Metcalf. Without DK Metcalf, Pittsburgh does

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Speaker 1: not have a receiver in the top ninety according to PFF.

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Speaker 1: That's not an Aaron Rodgers issue. This place is quicksand,

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Speaker 1: and he's somehow kept this team above water.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'll see all that stuff and I'll raise

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Speaker 6: you this. Last year the Steelers went ten and seven,

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Speaker 6: made the playoffs with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields as

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Speaker 6: their quarterbacks, and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Is elevating them. Like, I don't. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: that at all.

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Speaker 6: I mean, in the AFC last year had a healthy

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Speaker 6: Lamar and a healthy Patrick Mahomes. So like, are we

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Speaker 6: sure Rogers? I mean, maybe it's because the AFC's down.

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Speaker 6: I mean, okay, I just don't see Rogers as being

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Speaker 6: last year.

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Speaker 1: The red zone matters, right, good games like the Niners

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Speaker 1: are good in the red zone. Steelers bottom four red

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Speaker 1: zone offense last season, this year top half of the league.

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Speaker 1: That's Aaron. That's just Aaron making smart plays. So I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, I don't know. I am have been

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Speaker 1: critical of Aaron. I think he has been everything that

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Speaker 1: you could at forty one or forty two. I really

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Speaker 1: think he's played well.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'll say this, he had a great run, Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame career. Yes, you know, congrats. I know I

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Speaker 6: sound a little negative. Come on, maybe I'll be Maybe

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Speaker 6: that's my New Year's resolution, more positivity from j mac.

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Speaker 1: Is that fair? Well? How about this we contextualize the

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Speaker 1: Steelers had a top twelve defense last year at fourteen.

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Speaker 1: This year they're twenty seventh, So Aaron's having to carry

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Speaker 1: an atrocious defense and now with no DK Metcalf, if

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Speaker 1: they win Sunday, we have to all give it up

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Speaker 1: for erin bad defense, no receiver in the top ninety,

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Speaker 1: inconsistent run game, and you make the playoffs in the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Or how about this, if he loses to tire to

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Speaker 6: Snoop Huntley in Week eighteen, we have.

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Speaker 1: To tear down Aaron about a deal.

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Speaker 6: Let's just shake on it all right, next time the

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Speaker 6: Chicago Bears, Colin I did not know this debt. Did

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Speaker 6: the only team in the NFL the history of the

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Speaker 6: NFL to not have a four thousand yard passer. Now,

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is close. He needs two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: yards to reach that mark. This is kind of hard,

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Speaker 6: difficult to wrap my head around no four thousand yard passers.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the Jets have had so many, Bears haven't

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Speaker 6: had one. Does Caleb hit the mark with two seventy

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Speaker 6: this against the Lions in the finale.

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Speaker 1: They're certainly capable of it. I mean, burdens now really something.

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Speaker 1: They've done a lot of it without Rama Dunzee.

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Speaker 6: He's supposed to be back now. I don't know what's

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Speaker 6: up with Burdon and the knee. You're on the ground,

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Speaker 6: your boots.

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Speaker 3: On the ground.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago, he'll probably rest him. I got to tell

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Speaker 1: you something. They've done. This offense has gotten better without

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Speaker 1: Rama Dunze, which has allowed DJ Moore and Caleb to connect.

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Speaker 1: Burdens become more of a factor.

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Speaker 6: Some of it is contextually. The Niners defense can't stop anybody.

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Speaker 6: Packers didn't have Mica, so yeah, but but Burton has

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Speaker 6: looked very good.

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Speaker 1: He looked like, oh oh, by the way, I thought

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Speaker 1: about this, I'm blazing five. I've got only three games

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Speaker 1: I can bet. I literally don't know who's playing these games.

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Speaker 1: How can you bet five games? I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the report today. We know there's three games.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's going to try and play Raven Steelers, Niner, Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: Panthers Box. After that, everybody's it's like remember the COVID

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Speaker 1: years where you'd wake up Sunday and a team would

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Speaker 1: be like, we have eleven guys that can't play, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can make five bets this week.

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Speaker 1: So you have any to give you a free beat?

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Speaker 1: This is easy money.

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Speaker 6: Well, your guy Joe Burrow in the Bengals, they're trying

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Speaker 6: really hard, they're trying to finish, and it's against Miles

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Speaker 6: Garrett there on the road.

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Speaker 1: I should not have done that. We'll save it for

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Speaker 1: later in the week. Final story Colin Collin's football.

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Speaker 6: Here we go four good games over the next forty

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Speaker 6: eight hours. I think this. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana Alabama game,

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Speaker 6: by the way, could be played in a bit of

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Speaker 6: a ring storm out here.

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Speaker 1: As a heads up for the weather guys.

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Speaker 6: Here's Mendoza talking about the matchup with Alabama and the

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Speaker 6: excitement of the game.

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Speaker 8: Pressure is a privilege, like although that we you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, the we're the number one seed in the

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Speaker 8: college ball playoff and with all these high expectations Indiana,

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Speaker 8: it's the first time Indian has ever done this. We

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Speaker 8: don't have you know, this win against the Rose bull

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Speaker 8: We don't have the national championship, we don't have the

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Speaker 8: semi final win yet, we don't have the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 8: you know, trophy, or we don't have Roses in our

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Speaker 8: mouth yet we didn't go get it.

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Speaker 3: We gotta go take it.

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Speaker 1: I like this guy, Yeah, I like it. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's we're getting to the point now, is that

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Speaker 1: everybody's starting to pick apart this kid. I'm starting to read,

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Speaker 1: you know, all these all these mock drafts and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's slipped to five or six, he's going number one.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll just say this, The Dante More angle is interesting.

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Speaker 6: We'll see what happens with him. But he's Mendoza is

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Speaker 6: no consolation prize. That guy's an awesome talent. I hear

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Speaker 6: Andrew Luck, and when I watch him, I see like

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Speaker 6: a young Joe Flacco in Baltimore. Not fleet of foot,

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Speaker 6: but faster than Flacco. But he just articulates so well

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Speaker 6: Colin and he seems to be happy when he's talking

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Speaker 6: to reporters. You know, he's no serious game face. I

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Speaker 6: like Indiana against Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pocket guy, but he can move. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: moves moves better than like a Stafford or a golf

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Speaker 1: He can move. He moves better than Matt Ryan. He

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Speaker 1: can move a your starter. There's nothing about him. I

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Speaker 1: don't like. He's not Andrew Luck Athletically, He's not Darnold.

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Speaker 6: I hear Andrew Luck just like an articulate, intelligent.

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Speaker 1: Human, big, strong, accurate, playing in a great conference, highly productive.

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Speaker 1: Went to Outson Stadium, Ohio State couldn't win at Autson

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Speaker 1: last year. He went to Austin and dominated the Ducks

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Speaker 1: like more was bad in that game. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: he's good.

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Speaker 6: Is there one lock you you want to give out

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Speaker 6: for the college football Playoff? We haven't trunk lines or

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Speaker 6: spreads for those much.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I get like three and a half. I

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Speaker 1: would take Tech to cover against Oregon.

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Speaker 6: That feels you don't get three and a half, it's

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Speaker 6: two and a half. Can just pick your lines, buddy. No, No,

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Speaker 6: Oregon's two and a half. But I mean Indiana seven.

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Speaker 1: Six and a half seven My best bet, Indiana's gonna

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Speaker 1: blow Alabama out. I have a feeling that could be

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Speaker 1: in play. Indiana's gonna blow Alabama out. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how there's betting percentages are out there.

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Speaker 6: One of these guys, I'm not gonna say which company

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Speaker 6: said that the most bets were on Alabama money line.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, of the four And I'm like, are people dumb?

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Speaker 1: I guess there?

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Speaker 6: These are the people Joe Public going to Vegas for

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Speaker 6: New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let me put a long shot. Alabama was the title.

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Speaker 6: It's Alabama and they're in for a rude awakening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana's no joke. I mean, how many people can

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Speaker 1: go to Oregon and hammer Oregon last five six sevenths?

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Speaker 1: That Ohio State game was even more impressive.

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Speaker 6: I thought, Ohas Date would wax them, and I was like, whoa,

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Speaker 6: this team's legit. That defensive line signetti By the way.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that guy's good. Well, the old guys can coach

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Speaker 1: college football now because it's so administrative and transactional. You

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Speaker 1: buy players. You don't have to be watching high school

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Speaker 1: games on Friday night. So a Signetti or a Kyle Whittingham.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Belichick was any good with personnel, he'd

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Speaker 1: win in Carolina. You can buy players now. I mean

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Speaker 1: everybody used to buy players. It was called the SEC,

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Speaker 1: and now everybody gets to and the SEC isn't as good.

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Speaker 6: Let's just say, Jets get to Dante More goes one.

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Speaker 6: Can the Jets get Mendoza and Signetti? Is that in play?

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Speaker 1: No shot? First of all, Mendoza's going ahead of Dante

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Speaker 1: more and Dante Moore staying in college. Let avoid dream.

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Speaker 1: Come on Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite NFL guys. I just learned he's

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Speaker 1: obsessed with football.

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Speaker 3: That's next I heard.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. Days. I tend to think about my days

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Speaker 1: in sections. Days are very long. Let's say you sleep.

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Speaker 1: I can give you seven and a half hours a

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Speaker 1: day to sleep. I can give you an hour to

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Speaker 1: work out, two total hours to eat, three and a

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Speaker 1: half hours to socialize, listen to music, read, hang out.

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Speaker 1: If I ask it at work, the other ten hours?

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Speaker 1: Am I demanding? Days are long? Won't you ever find

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Speaker 1: yourself like scrolling on the phone, sitting around waiting for stuff.

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Speaker 1: You can give yourself three and a half hours of socializing,

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Speaker 1: seven and a half sleep, work out for an hour

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Speaker 1: to an hour and a half, a couple hours to eat,

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Speaker 1: ten hours left in a day. And so yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I like my football players to be kind of obsessed,

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Speaker 1: to kind of think football a lot. Not all day,

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Speaker 1: but a lot. I don't think working or thinking about

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Speaker 1: work ten hours a day is asking much if I

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Speaker 1: pay you millions of dollars and Max Crosby was talking

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Speaker 1: to Jim Gray recently and he said, yeah, I'm one

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Speaker 1: of those crazy guys that loves the game.

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Speaker 5: My whole life has been football in sports like that

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Speaker 5: has been my obsession since I was a little kid.

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Speaker 5: I love the game, man, this is this is my

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Speaker 5: whole life. And when I look back, I know I'm

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Speaker 5: never going to look in the mirror and say, damn,

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Speaker 5: I wish that would have worked a little harder.

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Speaker 1: I think that is such a healthy way to live.

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Speaker 1: Like I watch Sean mcvay's press conference after he loses,

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Speaker 1: he's sick. He looks pale Shanahan after he loses, like

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Speaker 1: they Bill Parcells, Like Bill Parcells, Tony Romo fumbled a

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Speaker 1: snap in Seattle going for the game winning kick, and

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Speaker 1: like Parcell said, it's not healthy. I can't coach like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting ill. That's okay. I love Max Crosby, but

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer said this years ago, the great Ones, the Mannings,

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Speaker 1: the Mahomes, that they're all a little obsessed. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with it. So we were talking earlier about generally, I

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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about quarterbacks, Like I like this guy,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that guy, like this guy, I don't

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Speaker 1: like that guy. I have a pretty good track record.

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Speaker 1: I feel prety good about it. Not perfect like anybody

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Speaker 1: would be. I think one of the guys that's hard

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Speaker 1: to kind of grasp is any quarterback that's with Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Matt shab was a pro bowler, Matt Ryan's MVP. Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: got to a Super Bowl. Brock Purty looks unbelievable. I

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Speaker 1: do think there's a stat in this league which tends

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Speaker 1: to really tell the truth about quarterbacks. When everybody in

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Speaker 1: the league knows you have to throw, that's different than

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Speaker 1: play action or playing with the lead or playing with

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Speaker 1: a great run game. When I know you've got to throw,

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Speaker 1: how good are you? That's when Brady was unbelievable. That's

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Speaker 1: when Mahomes has been unbelievable in their careers. Brock Purtty

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Speaker 1: and bon Nicks when trailing with four minutes left, bow

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Speaker 1: Knicks is a pro bowler. Brock Purty eighty five passer rating,

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Speaker 1: three touchdown, six picks. Bo Nicks is as good as

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Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league. One guy goes first round,

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Speaker 1: one guy's last pick. I do think brock Purty is

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Speaker 1: more situational than bon Nicks. I think bo Nick's a

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Speaker 1: better athlete. I think Bonnicks makes fewer mistakes. I think

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Speaker 1: he's better trailing. I think he's consistently better late. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's conditional. I don't think he has to

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Speaker 1: have his best running back or best tied end, or

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver. But as Greg Cosel said, there are

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Speaker 1: things that Perdy does that are exceptional.

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Speaker 4: Defenses change, they change the picture pre snap to post snap.

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Speaker 4: You can't be oblivit is to the defense. And I

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Speaker 4: think Purdy just has such an innate feel of seeing

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Speaker 4: it right away. Whatever it is, he sees it right away.

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Speaker 4: You know two things that he does so well that

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Speaker 4: we're tough to know in college timing and anticipation and

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Speaker 4: just innately seeing it right away.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Sam Darnold said about Brock Purdy. That's

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Speaker 1: what Donald said when he went to San Francisco for

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Speaker 1: that year and people asked him about it, and he

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Speaker 1: said it privately and publicly. Brock Pretty's ability, smart kid

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Speaker 1: to cognitively see it, let it rip and get the

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Speaker 1: ball there. Man, he sees the field