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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Spreading the corn.

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Speaker 3: Ten seconds of maining, so just go show under the basket.

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Speaker 3: Under the basket, it's the troop for the wind. God

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Speaker 3: make a miracle.

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Speaker 2: I'd up the water.

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Speaker 1: Hit that one from the parking lot.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 4: bet MGM. I am your host, Jim Root, joined on

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Speaker 4: this fine Wednesday by the rest of the three man

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Speaker 4: leave crew, Kai McEwan.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Cox.

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Speaker 4: Every Wednesday morning, we'll be dropping a new Big Bets

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Speaker 4: on Campus episode talking all things betting in the world

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Speaker 4: of college hoops, and of course Stucky and Co. Will

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Speaker 4: take over the weekends coming up soon now the football

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Speaker 4: is coming to a close. On today's episode, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: discuss some key games of the week, both at the

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Speaker 4: Power Conference and mid major level, give you some early

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Speaker 4: takes on spreads using the Ken Pom ideas or the

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Speaker 4: Ken Pom spreads his guesses at what they'll be able

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Speaker 4: to give you a lean there, and we of course

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Speaker 4: start fellas with the most beloved segment of this podcast,

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Speaker 4: this Wednesday weekly.

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Speaker 1: Pod that would be the live Dog of the week

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Speaker 1: Where's Mine?

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Speaker 3: O dog? Where is mine?

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Speaker 4: Last week Arkansas State covered but did not win. I

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Speaker 4: guess this is two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Now we did not have a holiday week episode. Zoo

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Speaker 1: got smoked.

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Speaker 4: The others actually kind of struggled too, unfortunately, Fellas. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna give you what I've got, my little batch that

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Speaker 4: I cooked up Wednesday and Thursday. Then I'm gonna give

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Speaker 4: you free rein to pick one you liked, agree, disagree,

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Speaker 4: maybe even give some bonus choices for the people. So

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Speaker 4: we've got three on Wednesday, three on Thursday. Wednesday, I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at Xavier plus seven at Villanova Rhode Island plus

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Speaker 4: seven home doll against Saint Joe's, Chattanooga plus eleven at

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Speaker 4: Samford out in the SoCon and then Thursday Stonybrook plus

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Speaker 4: and Milwaukee plus ten at Oakland. There's a common theme

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Speaker 4: between the Chattanooga and Milwaukee ones at the end there.

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Speaker 4: But Kyle, I'm gonna go to you first. That is

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Speaker 4: a six pack to select from. Do any of them

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Speaker 4: jump out to you or is it Jim, You're an idiot?

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Speaker 4: Why do you even think any of these teams will win.

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Speaker 5: Jim, I'm looking at Rhode Island for Wednesday hosts in

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Speaker 5: Saint Joe's. Like you said, Kim, Palm implies plus seven.

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Speaker 5: The thing about RhE Island, though, is it's tough to

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Speaker 2: Out on Archie Miller right now. And it's a reactionary

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Speaker 5: But Archie has struggled the last few games until last

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Speaker 5: one where they played Northeastern, and there's a reason why

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Speaker 5: They got David Green eligible from Louisiana Tech, who is

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Speaker 5: a game changer I believe. I think the fan base

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Speaker 5: other guy, Matthew. But the point from which allowed transfer, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree, Kay, I will be fading the forums with you.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the forums fodder on selling this Roady team,

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes that is Wednesday Night again. I very much

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Speaker 4: a team that's really trending up, probably undervalued. Matt, Can

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Speaker 4: I sell you on either of those double digit dogs

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Speaker 4: that very notably probably will not be that biggest spreads

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Milwaukee number is going to be

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Speaker 3: I'm right with you tentatively, Jim on Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Of these three, I kind of agree to you.

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Speaker 5: Jim and Milwaukee Mark Keith Browning got kicked off the

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Speaker 2: They've looked a lot better. I doly in your way there. Yeah, Chattanooga,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one where I think they just lost by

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just hate fading Sanford at home. It's not

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Speaker 1: I don't love that one.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Clark is fully healthy though for Stonybrook, so that's

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Speaker 4: your FAU owls most recently lost to Florida Gulf Coast.

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Speaker 4: Any chance of a hangover for Gulf Coast at home

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Speaker 3: I'd say strong, almost guarantee chance of hangover. The problem

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Speaker 3: But I just don't think this team's that bad. I

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Speaker 3: a good spot, good matchup there, Nate, tough shots, all

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Speaker 3: my No Bett list either way, So I have them off.

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Speaker 2: Just weird. They two of their best players are still out.

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Speaker 3: Right, and so part of it too, yeah, who knows?

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Speaker 4: Plus weird, like they're theoretical best big man's out for

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Speaker 4: that FAU game had them losing by like fourteen, which

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Speaker 3: With Zach Anderson was making just like insane fade away

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Speaker 4: I'll open up to you, guys, anything I missed or

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Speaker 4: actually like quite a bit as a potential outright dog kai,

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Speaker 4: what about you?

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Speaker 2: Can I attempt you?

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Speaker 5: With Arizona State hosting Utah about a plus seven point

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Speaker 4: I believe there, like you said, Ky there two and

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Speaker 4: like seventy seven of the eighty minutes that they have played.

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Speaker 4: Furious comeback at Stanford, Furious comeback at Cal after trailing

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Speaker 1: Arizona State a very interesting.

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Speaker 4: Price given their two and I start, Matthew, any other

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking the Golden Hurricane singular of Tulsa. On Thursday,

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Speaker 3: have shown resume wise. And they did be your Mamzoo

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Speaker 3: plus nine, hopefully plus eight playing two three to one there, yeah,

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Speaker 3: eleven the boys at home eleven yere price there.

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Speaker 4: Keaston willis a key guard for Tulsa, is back for

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Speaker 5: All right to Kai, I'll just go roady here, Jim

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Speaker 4: Guys so conservative he doesn't want to give out too

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Speaker 1: Right looking for a big favorite or two that are

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Speaker 4: First one is Wednesday night, Chicago State headed to Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 4: I will say, Matthew, I don't love Oklahoma State is

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Speaker 1: Twelve venue in Oklahoma State. Do the Cowboys care enough?

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Speaker 3: We don't worry about Oklahoma State. They're young. I think

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Speaker 1: Okay Kai, what about you? I mean Chicago State.

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Speaker 5: But this team is pretty much an AU team, so

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna stay away completely from this one.

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Speaker 3: Jim, fourteen miles apart is my exams, Well.

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Speaker 2: I saw that bad. Actually, Okay, that's way shorter.

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Speaker 4: Pepperdine at Gonzaga on Thursday night is my other one

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at. Gonzaga has had a week to stew

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Speaker 1: They've covered the last two at.

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Speaker 4: with Jevin Porter, younger brother of Michael Porter Junior back

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Speaker 5: WCC play, I don't think I feel confident in taking

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Speaker 5: I guess they have blown out in feior of competition.

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Speaker 5: Just about every single team they've played, you know below

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Speaker 3: Leaned toward the waves. I just remember a ton there's

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Speaker 3: But then we got to go in this bright stage

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Speaker 3: and play Zach. I think they arise for this game.

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Speaker 3: They're healthier talent and to get a little older and

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Speaker 3: I might get wavy with Romard's squad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kenza especially no depth in the backcourt like nem

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Speaker 1: Of himself, that's a real issue. I think.

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Speaker 4: Also it's important those those big and Zaga blowouts I

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Speaker 1: So I do actually.

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Speaker 4: Lean against both of the potential blowouts here, guys. Tough

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Speaker 4: to find these spots as we get into conference play

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Speaker 4: that the true home blowout smack the opponent type type

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Speaker 4: of spot. We'll move on to our next segment, Power

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Speaker 4: into it. The big ones. We got a huge one

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Speaker 4: the PAC twelve on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Oh I could feel it starting in the.

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Speaker 4: ACC, Clemson a minus three road favorite at Miami. R

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Speaker 4: Ken Pomeroy's projections. It's kind of this year's ACC non

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Speaker 4: blue blood Darling against last year's non blue blood ACC Darling,

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Speaker 4: as Miami did end up winning the conference last year.

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Speaker 4: Two monster offenses here, Kai don't really know how a

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Speaker 4: small Miami front court handles PJ. Hall some injury concerns

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Speaker 1: Is Clemson potentially being a road favorite down in Coral Gables?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that. I love Clemson this year.

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Speaker 5: I love this team, but no, I don't think they

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Speaker 5: Miami is a dog at home, I will be inclined

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Speaker 5: to bet on Miami. But the status is a Poplar

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Speaker 5: I just don't trust them on the road against a

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Speaker 2: Team that has a gear to be good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean any pack to have that gear and poplar.

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Speaker 3: I guess this year too again now a very deep team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the biggest story is the Poplar

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Speaker 4: two games, Papa only played fifteen minutes last time out

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they're going to play, so like

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Speaker 4: no depth is a real problem. It's a Thursday Nights

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Speaker 4: where I mentioned a huge one of the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 4: But they need to start winning, and they got to

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be angry. I think they win, and

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Speaker 5: Think you said, Cody Simpson, I think Arizona beats him

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Speaker 1: It's going to be vicious environment.

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Speaker 4: right side of the wing column and banged up like

436
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 4: if the silva's not in there.

437
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,479
Speaker 1: I feel very good about it.

438
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 4: But Kyle, we have seen Arizona very highly valued by

439
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 4: the market, So there's a chance this number is actually

440
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: like eleven or twelve. Then would be a little bit

441
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 4: of a diceier wager and certainly would amp up matzline

442
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 4: towards the road.

443
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: Buffs.

444
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 4: Okay, let's let's settle down now to the mid major level.

445
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 4: Talk the mid major games of the week. I've actually

446
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 4: got three on Thursday because one's a little bit of

447
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 4: a two pack. We're going to start in the Sun Belt.

448
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 4: James Madison the undefeated ranked Dukes continuing to hang around

449
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 4: in the ap Pole. They are minus five on the

450
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 4: road at Louisiana, who got off to an zero to

451
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 4: one start to Sun Belt play, losing at Marshall Matt

452
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: undefeated James Madison. Do they just continue smashing teams here

453
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 4: or are you going to maybe step in on the

454
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: home dog cagents.

455
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: I definitely will not be a home dog backer here.

456
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Dukes or nothing for me. But just

457
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: last season we saw James Madison obviously not as dominant

458
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: as their preseason this year, but they were pretty damn

459
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: close to his dominant with some of the margins they

460
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: were beaten, you know, meddling competition. We'll call it middling competition.

461
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: I should say the Sun Belt's good, and I think

462
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: a lot of the home courts are tough, and there's

463
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: a lot more parody that arises in the Sunbelt, and

464
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see a lot closer of margins

465
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: than maybe some of the JMU enthusiasts expect. This season

466
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: feels like a trap if I'm back in the Dukes here.

467
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: But I do think they're the better team. I'm sure

468
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 3: of selling the Cajuns Kuy. They've been very good. Marlin's

469
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: a very good coach, and at the Dome they are

470
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: a tough out. I just don't think it lasts. I

471
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit a mirage what I've seen

472
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 3: so far early on.

473
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 5: Sun Belt's really tough to bet. Just based on what

474
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 5: you just said. It seems like results are pretty random. Buddy,

475
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 5: can hang with anybody. Louisiana's been a team that I

476
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 5: can't really peg this season. Like you said, better than

477
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 5: I expected. They're tough, but they can probably lay in

478
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 5: a against James Madison. James Madison team, I am probably

479
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: done trying to fade. I thought Texas State was a

480
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 5: pretty good bet against them. I thought Hampson is a

481
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 5: pretty good bet against them, and even they looked dead

482
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: to Wright's boom, they go on a huge run with

483
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 5: their incredible offense and you know, put it everything to bed.

484
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 2: So I'm staying clear away from this game.

485
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: Jim, Yeah, JM.

486
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 4: You is up there even with some of the best

487
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: Power Conference teams in terms of spurt ability, the way

488
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 4: they can go fifteen oh on you in three minutes

489
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: and you're just.

490
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: Like, WHOA this game.

491
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: I looked at my score at five minutes ago and

492
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: had a chance, and now I'm completely buried trying to

493
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: fade them.

494
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: That is scary.

495
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: Louisiana's played a kind of a crazy schedule, tons of

496
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Speaker 4: road games, only three home games so far. One was

497
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 4: against a non D one team, so perhaps home opener

498
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 4: in league play you get a really good home run effort.

499
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 4: But I'm not willing to bet against the Dukes either.

500
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: I think that one's scary. So next up a Colonial

501
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: no longer the Coastal Athletic Association, A two pack here,

502
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 4: and I want to talk both games, guys, because all

503
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: four teams involved sit between one hundred and ten and

504
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty two per Ken Pomp's national rankings,

505
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 4: they're the very likely winners of the league. It's very

506
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: very likely the winner comes out of this group. Got

507
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 4: un C Wilmington headed two Drexel where the Dragons are

508
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: a three point home favorite, and then Charleston heading to

509
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: Hofstra the Pride a five point home favorite. Matt, I'll

510
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 4: go to you first. Which one of these games jumps

511
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 4: out to you most? Do you have a betting angle

512
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: you like on either one? What are you looking at here?

513
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 4: In the Coastal Athletic Association?

514
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: I like both road teams. Feels like I'm a sucker,

515
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 3: like a spinning, easy, low hanging fruit angle there. But

516
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: I think Wilmington catching Direxel off that white hot shooting

517
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: display against a bad, bad, bad Hampton defense. Just a

518
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: disastrous defense they have. They're sorry pirates. I think Wilmington

519
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: comes ready to play. I think the're gonna actually be

520
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: better in conference play. They had a really good non

521
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 3: com but they are missing one key forward who're supposed

522
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 3: to get back soon. I'm blanky on his name. Anyway,

523
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: It's a deep team. I like him. They're well coach.

524
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: I think they'll travel well and in Charleston then they've

525
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: been also been at home. They've been awesome pretty much

526
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: all over the place, and they've got some good guys

527
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: emerging in their rotation. I think it tech pak Kelsey

528
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: a week or two early on in the year to

529
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: kind of figure out who's going to be his his

530
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: primary horses. But they have a real rim protector up

531
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: pro merging in Scott. I think he's a big difference maker.

532
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: So sorry, Speedy, I'll be fading as well.

533
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 5: Both road teams for me, yep, I like Wilmington a lot.

534
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 5: Takeyo Siddle has dominated this conference last couple of years.

535
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 5: Been very impressed with him. Drexel I think is a

536
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 5: bit overrated They're really good, and I thought they'd be

537
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: good in the preseason as well. Their defense is incredible,

538
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: but the offensive display they showed last game was way

539
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 5: above their heads. Leaning towards Wilmington there, I lean towards

540
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 5: Charleston Jim, but Hofstra is very good. Be a little

541
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 5: nervous stating them five points is probably too much.

542
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Would lean towards Cougars.

543
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, decent chance.

544
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: I end up having Wilmington favored on the road there

545
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: against Trexel. I'm just really not sold on them. They're

546
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: super reliant on Justin Moore in the back court, and

547
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: that man is as erratic as it gets at this level.

548
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the rest of their team's fairly steady, but

549
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: more can turn the ball over eight times or you

550
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 4: can have a virtuoso performance. I just trust Wilmington's guards

551
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 4: way way more so. I'll be riding the Seahawks as well.

552
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: That makes it a three for three. We all like

553
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: the road Seahawks in that one and then the other game.

554
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 4: Charleston's hard to figure out. Been one of the a

555
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: very bad three point shooting team all year. We truly

556
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: believe that they've got good shooters, but they haven't been

557
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: able to show it so far, and we know Hostros

558
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 4: offense is tremendous, so that's closer to a sit out

559
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: for me. Although the price at five is fairly appealing.

560
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: I think those teams are roughly equal.

561
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: Remember Hollster beat Charleston at Charleston last year, right tho

562
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 3: was one of the only two conference losses and only

563
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: two losses until the.

564
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Term ended up costing or they ended up had a

565
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: share of the Uh.

566
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: That's right, the regular season title in Hawstrick got the

567
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: one seed due to that tie breaker, so maybe some

568
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: some revenge angle cooked up.

569
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: In there all right? Now the trash man pick of

570
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: the week, we go from good to.

571
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: Bad here the trash man pick of the week.

572
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: I'm the trash man. Just throw me the trash, your garbage,

573
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 3: and you know it. Totally unreliable, undependable. That's it, you've

574
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: been told off.

575
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: How do you like that?

576
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: Good?

577
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: Last week?

578
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: Marriston Notre Dame one hundred and sixteen total points. Marison

579
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: barely covers, losing by four.

580
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Now we're going to the Patriot and fellas.

581
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: Let's we'll try not to pick on the Patriot lea

582
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: too much this year, but it will be in this

583
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: section more than once. There are some bad, bad squads

584
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: out there, some slow squads, some horrendous offenses, and this

585
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: matchup fits the Bill Army. They are a one point

586
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 4: dog at Lafayette. Both these offenses are in the bottom

587
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: five nashally per ken Palm one hundred and nineteen points

588
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: projected in this one. Only two combined D one wins

589
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: between the two teams.

590
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Here, it's ugly.

591
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: Kai, do you have a betting angle or is this

592
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: a stay away because they're trash man?

593
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: I guess I lean towards Army. Lafayette's been truly terrible.

594
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 5: They scored point five to six points per possession against Richmond.

595
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: They scored thirty eight points. I was on the end

596
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 5: of that game so appreciated it. They've scored over one

597
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 5: point per possession twice against D one teams this year.

598
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Just really a kneemic Army. Look, they're not a very

599
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: good team, but sometimes they can score.

600
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: You saw that game against Indiana. They take a ton

601
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 5: of threes, a lot of variants there. They have a

602
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 5: couple talented players. Josh Scoven's has been pretty darn good

603
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: last couple of games, so I think Army's got the

604
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 5: better team here. I'm not scared of Lafayette's offense. I'm

605
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 5: leaning towards Army.

606
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Man, you're not scared of Justin Vanderban, the seven footer.

607
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: The where's he from? Kai?

608
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: Vanderbon BCS he went to BC.

609
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: So he came from the CCBC transfer. He's actually like

610
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 3: one of the better players the Patriots. He is like

611
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: the ultimate underdude, just blocks everything, looks like a beanstalk

612
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: compared to Patriot competition. But he cannot make layups, so

613
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: good fronders, great trash man choice him. I have no

614
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: take on a side here.

615
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, just looking at it, I thought Army because I

616
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: think they've just had more flashes, as Kai referred to

617
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: super young team. They're playing a lot of freshmen or

618
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: at least key freshmen in.

619
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Key roles, so I lean their way.

620
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: But maybe Lafayette, who also played a really kind of

621
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: a brutal non conference a lot of road games, maybe

622
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: they start to look better here. Yeah, appropriately stay away,

623
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: unless maybe you want to jump in on the under

624
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: and close your eyes as you're hoping for like a

625
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: fifty five to fifty final. All right, now, fellows, we

626
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: get to our final section and it should be a

627
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: fun one. We're doing a spotlight on conference title odds,

628
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: especially with league play tipping off in the power conferences.

629
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: I know there have been a couple of games in

630
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: December for the Big ten in the ACC and others,

631
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: but I think it's a good time to look at

632
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: possible value as we enter league play. We're going to

633
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: go in alphabetical order power conferences, maybe dip into the

634
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: Mountain West American and see what we think there. But

635
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: starting with the ACC, Matthew Duke the favorite plus two

636
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: to fifty all these odds per bet mgm U n

637
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: C right behind them at Clemson as well at plus

638
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: two seventy five. I think, notably wake Forest ten to one,

639
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: given Fton Reid in the lineup, potential return them to

640
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: Maryland Santo maybe wake Forest as sends. But Matt, is

641
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: it really just one of the favorites. What do you

642
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: see here in the ACC?

643
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: I think it's Duker Clemson. This is not a Virginia year.

644
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: It's just the team's not built for an ACC tournament run.

645
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: They're too young. I think the problems that Tony Bennett's

646
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: dealing with or two rare season thank you so put

647
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: them to the side. Duker Clemson for me, I like

648
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: Wake Jim just feels like too much of a flyer.

649
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: I actually don't hate Virginia at nine to one, be honest,

650
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: I think there's a guarantee Virginia wins at least twelve

651
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: games in in conference plan. I really lost Notre Dame already,

652
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: but this has Tony Benn in the a SEC.

653
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Still. People are too low on them right now.

654
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the defenses for real, and even just watching that

655
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: Notre Dame game. Notre Dame I think banked in two

656
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: threes in the first half, including an alley oop bank

657
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: at the shot clock buzzer. The offense has major issues,

658
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: but I do see as these guys mentioned very metronomic

659
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: type team. That said, I kind of think Clemson wins. Guys,

660
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: I just have been so impressed with them, their experience,

661
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: They're deep, and I think Duke and un C we'll

662
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: have the questionable road performances. Duke's already lost at Georgia

663
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: Tech when they lost Proctor, whereas Clemson's been nothing short

664
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: of nails on the road. So I'm actually gonna go

665
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: with Clemson as my pick. There maybe not a great wager,

666
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: I do think wake Force might be worth a flyer

667
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: that could age poorly As they play at BC tonight,

668
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: We'll see if they pick up a loss next up

669
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve. These surprise me a little bit. Houston

670
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: plus two thirty, just barely ahead of Kansas at plus

671
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: two forty BYU six to one. One of the biggest

672
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: risers in all of the country in non conference play

673
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: Baylor seven to one Oklahoma, They're at ten to one Hi.

674
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: Kansas is well behind Houston and just about every analytical measure,

675
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: especially predictively.

676
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Do you think they should be right about even with Houston,

677
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: especially with the loss of Terrence Arsenal.

678
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I do Kansas.

679
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: It's still Kansas's league, and they're I think Houston is

680
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 5: the better team in my ratings at least, but Kansas

681
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: is right there.

682
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: They're probably one A, one B. I think one of

683
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: the two are gonna win the league. I love BYU.

684
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna win the Big Twelve, though,

685
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: so I think it's Kansas for Houston there.

686
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 3: I like Houston. I like Houston. I think their defense

687
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: travels b YU at their home court is going to

688
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: be very enticing, and I think they're like they're overrated

689
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 3: in Ken Palm and other rankings, and I think by

690
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: association over like overvalued, I should say, in these markets.

691
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: But their home advantage is very real in a double

692
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: round robin regular season setting. So I go back and

693
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: forth there. I still think it's Houston's to lose. I'm

694
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: more I'm lower on KU, I think than most people are.

695
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: I feel like the flaws are very real and they're

696
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: one injury away from being in major, major trouble.

697
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically four good players.

698
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 4: And they got a decent Timberlake game recently at Goodel

699
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: Marco Jackson game against Wichitah. But I think the inconsistency

700
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: there for Kansas is a problem, whereas Houston's just got

701
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: a pretty high performance floor because of the defense and

702
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: the offensive rebounding. So yeah, Eileen Houston as well, Matt.

703
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: The one other side of the sword with BYU is

704
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: the road trips that they're going to have to take

705
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: are brutal, like going to UCF and West Virginia, and

706
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: you know everybody has to go out to the mountains

707
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: for them, but they've got to they've got to go

708
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: on long run trips the other way, So that could

709
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: hamper BYU, and again I tend to agree they are

710
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: not a top five team nationally the way that has

711
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: the metrics in Ken Palm and Bartorvik and Evan Mea

712
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: all have them, So not quite up there.

713
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: Thirteen and five projection for Ken pound for Buyu. That

714
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: seems too rich. Yeah they lose seven games.

715
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems reasonable. Eleven seven.

716
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: All right to the Big East, where you got two

717
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: co favorites Yukon and Marquette both at the top of

718
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: plus two hundred, Villa Nova at plus two to seventy five,

719
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: mostly because they have already won two road games, including

720
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: at Creighton. That is a major major boost. In speaking

721
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: of Creighton, they are seven to one, sitting at zero

722
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: to two in the league heading to Georgetown tonight as

723
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: we record this on Tuesday, potentially picking one up there.

724
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 4: Notable odds here Providence ten to one, the team that

725
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: never loses at home, and then Saint John's twenty.

726
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 1: Five to one. Trending up.

727
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: They played Yukon super close on the road. Perhaps Patino

728
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: has gotten things figured out Kai. Any pick for you

729
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: in the Big East, No.

730
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: Good luck with this league. I think there's half the

731
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 5: league can win it.

732
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Pretty much.

733
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be Ucond of Marquette, So I

734
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: agree with the favorites. You Villanova could hang on, and

735
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: of course you like going with the team that's two

736
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: and already I don't see Providence hanging on their offense

737
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: is not good enough. A flyer doesn't really entice me here.

738
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: So I think it's the u Kond of Marquette, and

739
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 5: again I don't have a big preference there.

740
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, coming into the year, it was okay, the top

741
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: three is head and shoulders above Marquette, yukon Creighton, and

742
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: now Matt Can I tempt you with Creighton at seven

743
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: to one at the base at the base of their value?

744
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I am tempted. I think it's my favorite Bilo

745
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: the bunch again super. I mean they're going to defend home,

746
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: I think consistently throughout conference plan. Now they already took

747
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: one to know where there, but I think that's gonna.

748
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: I think that'll age as a fluke. And I think

749
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: their perimeter issues, how they don't have any quickness, and

750
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: how they can't always guard people their two shot making reliant.

751
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna even a self out. I trust me.

752
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: Derman too much.

753
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: I trust the talent there, I trust the experience. So yeah,

754
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: I think crighton, this is this good time to builo

755
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: crete in all markets. Titles, conference betting game, the game,

756
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: the jump shooting jas are not going anywhere.

757
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to agree, Matt. They lost at Marquette, which,

758
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 4: even if you're betting on them to win the league

759
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: in preseason, you're expecting a loss there.

760
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: So they're only a little.

761
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 4: Below what you'd expect them to be because that home

762
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: loss in Nova. I think they're going to find a

763
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: way to make up for that on the road.

764
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll win again.

765
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: They're PLU seven hundred, but I think it's a decent,

766
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 4: decent odds bet considering where we value them in the preseason.

767
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: Then I'm not faulting them for losing at Marquette. All right,

768
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: So the Big ten, maybe this one's going to be

769
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: quick Perdue minus two hundred. The heavy heavy favorite Wisconsin

770
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: next up at eight to one, Michigan State twelve to one,

771
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: and Fellows Illinois fourteen to one. That is an insane price.

772
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: If Arren Shannon ever plays again. Of course, he is

773
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: suspended in definitely due to a rape accusation from back

774
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: in September, so probably unlikely to ever play and would.

775
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Explain the odds.

776
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: But kays is just perdue, even though they already have

777
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: a loss in the league play.

778
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked. I Purdue does not win the Big Ten,

779
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: so that makes sense.

780
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 5: Minus two hundred is not really a price I'm looking

781
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 5: away in conference futures. You know you're right, Illinois, that's

782
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: obviously the best bet on here if we knew Shannon's future.

783
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: I don't hate Wisconsin at eight to one. I think

784
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: I think there might maybe the second best team.

785
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: In the league.

786
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 5: And if you're looking for something that's not minus two hundred,

787
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 5: that might not be a bad way to go.

788
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty also has the ninth hardest schedule per kem

789
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: pom's conference Strength of Schedule rating. Very handy too, that

790
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: he has imbalanced schedule.

791
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: You got to look at that for I believe that's

792
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: only the games they have already played.

793
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, I should have gone through and made

794
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: a little heat map thing. I apologize. I kind of

795
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: like Sparty. I think Sparty's gonna get and do the

796
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: classic Sparty thing this year, so owing too already though

797
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: in the league to produce one and one, So I

798
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: feel like it kind of seems I think they're it produced.

799
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: The favorite you're chasing Perdue, I think has already shown

800
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: some vulnerability, at least to in conference matchups. So yeah,

801
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: I think the value is there for Sparty.

802
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not touching anything besides Purdue. I think they

803
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: end up Ken pomer Jackson sixteen and four. I think

804
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: they go sixteen and four and are just fine to

805
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: run away with that league. Wisconsin maybe the Virginia of

806
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: the Big Ten, but I'm not going to get there.

807
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. Wisconsin got a solid one

808
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: for me too.

809
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: All right to the Pac twelve. I mentioned Arizona took

810
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: the loss at Stanford. They still are minus one fifty

811
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: atop the league, taking on Colorado this week, who is

812
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: second in the odds at plus four hundred, whiled by

813
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: fellow two and oh Mountain Team Utah at five to one. Matt,

814
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: They're starting to get a little bit from Davon Smith,

815
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: how about that? And then Oregon twelve to one, notably

816
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: Arizona State two and oh on the road already one

817
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: hundred to one to win the league. Kai, are you

818
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna look at mister Hurley and go for

819
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: that miracle.

820
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I might take one hundred to one, but

821
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 5: it'd be kind of like Bridue. It would shock me

822
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: if Arizona did not win the back twelve. I just

823
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 5: don't think Utah and Colorado have it from a road perspective,

824
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: I think Oregon's depth has to catch up with him

825
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: at some point and they're gonna get caught in a

826
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: game or two. Arizona State's honestly not very good, but

827
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: again one hundred to one, so I think it's Arizona's

828
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: bet still, and again minus one fifty reflects that that

829
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: line of thinking.

830
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And Arizona lost six games last year

831
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: in conference and I did not have to make the

832
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: Mountain trip, which I believe they do this year. So

833
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't have a hot taker gym other than I

834
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: think Arizona is actually not a great bet. Then that's

835
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: all I have to offer. Maybe the lean Oregon at

836
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: twelve to one could get healthy down the stretch Altman

837
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: kind of a late marg surge, but that's it.

838
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, team that there there reports now that Biddle could

839
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: come back a lot soon than expected, like he was

840
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 4: Maybe gonna be out for the year, and his scams

841
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: looked a lot better. Dante could come back, and Chelstad

842
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: has become a true star in the backcourt. So I

843
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: am a little bit intrigued by two O Oregon at

844
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: twelve to one, having already beat the California schools.

845
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm with these guys.

846
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: Arizona not much value at minus one fifty the likely winner,

847
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: but one in one with that Mountain road trip, I

848
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 4: don't think you should bet them. The SEC the most

849
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: parody you'll find in any of these conference odds. Tennessee

850
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: and Auburn sharing the top spot at three to one,

851
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 4: Kentucky Big Blue Nation at five to one, Alabama six

852
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: to one, which is a little surprising given that they

853
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: are the highest ranked team in all of the metrics

854
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: and there's been no SEC games played, so it's not

855
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: like they're buried by an zero to two start or anything.

856
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 4: Notable long shots here Mississippi State fourteen to one, with

857
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: total Lou Smith back. Ole Miss is undefeated, they have

858
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: Chris Bier, They're twenty.

859
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: Five to one.

860
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: Matt, what direction are you looking at in the SEC?

861
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot of takes to be

862
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: had on this one.

863
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: What's Florida add again? I love ten to one? Well right,

864
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: twelve Yeah, I had Florida looking at fifteen, but twelve

865
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: ten twelves old two little too low. It did crapshoot.

866
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: I lean Bama with that price. I just think they're

867
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: actually built for a really good regular season run. They

868
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: actually can make shots in a league that is starred

869
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: for shot making. Now, defensively they have question marks, but

870
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: I don't think this is like a twenty twenty two

871
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: defensive meltdown. I think it's closer to last year somewhere

872
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: in the middle. I think it's good enough to make

873
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: a deep run here.

874
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: Last year's team was awesome.

875
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: Defensively, Yeah, I'm saying it's definitely not last year, but

876
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: it's not as bad as twenty twenty two. I think

877
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: there's the truth is in the middle, and that's good

878
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: enough for me.

879
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: At six to one, okay, I think this defense is

880
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: closer to twenty two than last year.

881
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: Closer yea being bad that's.

882
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Versus being good.

883
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 4: All right, Kyle, what about you? Like I said, different

884
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: routes you can go with this conference.

885
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: I think five teams can win the league. So again,

886
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 5: good luck it's kind of picked your horse. The best

887
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: values Alabama. They at six to one comparative comparatively to

888
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 5: other teams.

889
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: You know, or their price.

890
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: But I think Auburn can win the league, and I

891
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: think Tennessee is still probably the favorite in my eyes.

892
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 5: In Kentucky can win it. A and m can win it.

893
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 5: So I'm staying clear away.

894
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you missed the Auburn value. That's the problem. If

895
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: we did this like two weeks ago, that was the

896
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: value play. Now it's done.

897
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt, coming into the year, you love Mississippi State.

898
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: Nothing jumps out of you. Fourteen to one with Totlan.

899
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: Smith, valid point. You're right, I have no overbuttal I

900
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: still love that team. They've just been I guess the

901
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech Southern back to back losses was so scarring

902
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: to me that I haven't quite gotten past that, but

903
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: I should. It's a new season, a new dawn, a

904
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: new day, and they'll be healthier. Christiansen coach basketball.

905
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: Yep, and in his debut, Hollly Smith was fantastic. I

906
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: had ten points, five rebounds in the first half, finished

907
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: with sixteen to nine in just nineteen minutes. Now it's

908
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: against terrible competition. But if they get a true s

909
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: SEE Player of the Year caliber guy in there, with

910
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 4: their added shot.

911
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Making in the back court, perhaps Mississippi State will be

912
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: worth a play at fourteen to one.

913
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: All right, Mountain West guys, real quick. This one also

914
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: a lot of parody. Calado State two to one, New

915
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: Mexico plus three hundred San Diego State plus three fifty

916
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: Nevada plus four to fifty kai we got in the Mountain.

917
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: West Boise twenty to one is nuts. I would say

918
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: that's the best value on the board. It played a

919
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 5: lot better recently as well. I think San Diego State's

920
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: might pick thought three fifty.

921
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: No value for New Mexico, but that's my pick three

922
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: to one. I've been on record. I just think that

923
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: the best team in this league. Worry about some of

924
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: the reintegration of mister Mashburn with how awesome that the

925
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: cohesive perimeter group was playing without him. I think Boise

926
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: Kuy's right, it's the best value pick. I just think

927
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: Boise is not very good, so I can't in good

928
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: faith bet that myself.

929
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: And there's a chance that these move a decent amount

930
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: with New Mexico playing at Colorado State tonight.

931
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: On Tuesday as we record this.

932
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: So if you're listening Wednesday morning in New Mexico lost,

933
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: maybe Matthew's Lobos are going to have a little more

934
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: value at three point fifty or four to one, So

935
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: check that out. The Americans and WCC are both two

936
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: horse races, like pretty clearly unless you love San Francisco

937
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 4: and the WCC. FAU minus won forty Memphis plus one

938
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: ninety in the American Matthew, who are you going with?

939
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this. I actually think Memphis

940
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: has more value here because we talked about this breakdown

941
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: in the off season, Like FAU was a slight favorite

942
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: at that point and we thought they were heading shoulders

943
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: above Memphis. I think most people that was the assumption

944
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: now on Memphis is really good and FAU, like, are

945
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: they better than we thought? Like, no, They're probably what

946
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: we thought they were. They've shown they can take tough losses,

947
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: they can play down to competition. Certainly not a type

948
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: of team you want a profile that want to back

949
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: in a conference. Tyle Rayce, Memphis has proven they can

950
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: win on the road. I like Memphis at two to one.

951
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: Basically it's the much better value. Yeah, I think at

952
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: theason win the league. But if you're looking for value,

953
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: it's a better play. I don't think any other team

954
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: wins this league. I mean too late is the other

955
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: team I look at at thirty to one, I think

956
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: they could surprise.

957
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: I like that. Yeah, I can't even look outside these

958
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: I think Memphis wins. Mean I think the plus one

959
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: nineties really good value. Those teams are pretty close to

960
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: equals to me, especially with Nakwon Tomlin into the lineup

961
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 4: from Memphis as they integrate him.

962
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks really good.

963
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 4: WCC guys, Gonzaga minus won seventy five, Saint Mary's plus

964
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: one seventy five. San Francisco is quietly snuck up five

965
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: to one because their incredible defense. Kai, is this just

966
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 4: Gonzaga or do you think Saint Mary's figures it out.

967
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: I think Saint Mary's is the better value right now,

968
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 5: especially with Gonzaga's depth issues. And I still maintain Saint

969
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: Mary's a very good team. I know they've dropped a

970
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 5: couple of games, not a couple several. I still think

971
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: they're a really good team and can win the league.

972
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: I agree, there's no matchup Kryptonites really in the WCC

973
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: that Saint Mary's has to deal with, which I think

974
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: has been like super duper athletic, like long wings. Now,

975
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: the Dons have lots of length. I just don't think

976
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: they the way they play will give Saint Mary's many fits.

977
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like the gales. I'm with Kai, and

978
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: I'm kind of selling the eggs.

979
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I Francisco up into the top fifty of Ken Punk.

980
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're super overrated. Okay again, but they're

981
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: extremely overrated, all right.

982
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: Last one to look at here the a ten parready

983
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 4: kind of but Dayton's actually reasserted themselves as the best

984
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: team up there at two to one, Saint Joe's four

985
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: to one given their impressive playing the non conference, Saint

986
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: Bonaventure and Dukane two preseason darlings plus five fifty plus

987
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: six fifty and Kai.

988
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: If I know you like, I think you do the

989
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: right bet here is.

990
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: VCU at seven to one with Sean Bearstow and Joe

991
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: Bamasol back in the lineup.

992
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Dayton's been incredible recently, but i VC

993
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: is the best bet on the board. Absolutely bear style

994
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: changes them. Bamsil already changed them. This team is going

995
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 5: to be legit over the next few weeks. Matthew thoughts,

996
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 5: I think I agree.

997
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: I'm actually lit higher on Dayton most people are at

998
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: two to one. Didn't feel like there's a lot of

999
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: value there. But I still think they are the best

1000
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: team by not a substantial margin. But they are on

1001
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: their own tier and I just don't trust Saint Joe

1002
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: as much right oar season, I don't really trust Saint Bonnie.

1003
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: Now they look really good, I still don't think they're

1004
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: as good as their analytic profile indicates, talent wise, as

1005
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: good as marchmid is. I love the Dukes. I can't

1006
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: quite get there. Vcus the best value play. I think

1007
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: I'd still take Dayton at two to one. They look

1008
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: really good right now, they're shooting the crap that look

1009
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: Actually yeah.

1010
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: I think VC used the bet if you want to

1011
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: get in on this, just because they are undervalued from

1012
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: an analytic coach perspective. They're still played for their coach,

1013
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: Ryan Otam at Utah State, so easy integration they're coming

1014
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: off his injury. I also kind of like George Mason

1015
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: down at twenty to one, solid one, but it's likely

1016
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: going to come down to Dayton or VCU if you

1017
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: ask me in seven to one, not that odds there.

1018
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: For the Rams, all right, fellas. That wraps it up.

1019
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: That is our check in on conference odds. There's some

1020
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: mid major stuff out there too. Bet MGM has odds

1021
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: on every league, So if you want to dive in

1022
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: and try to find some mid major value, there is

1023
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: some out there. But we're at a time we're not

1024
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: going to or you with all that. So thank you

1025
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,080
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1027
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