Speaker 1: Sabrina. Yes, well, off, mic, you said something that's very important,
Speaker 1: which is that we have not done a frey A check.
Speaker 2: We have not done a fray A skycheck.
Speaker 1: We were at what three hundred thousand last time, I.
Speaker 3: Believe, so somewhere No, no, no, no, no, no, it
Speaker 3: was like five something.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is one point one million, right, Oh.
Speaker 3: My gosh in a matter of what three months?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what one point one million followers? Now,
Speaker 1: oh for our god Praya skycheck.
Speaker 3: Good for her because she's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think from now on. By the way, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I am going to be calling this little segment
Speaker 1: we do sky News sky News very much. So that
Speaker 1: is the new segment that we're doing. And the sky
Speaker 1: News update is yeah, one point one million. You called it,
Speaker 1: You totally called it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. But she got a chance to do the
Speaker 3: best thing in the world, which is actually get up
Speaker 3: on stage do these songs that these fans are so
Speaker 3: in love with. How did we not go because it
Speaker 3: was literally right after the premiere and you were bonkers
Speaker 3: with your schedule and I was like tired. I mean
Speaker 3: I did a press conference and like I never.
Speaker 1: Get out ever. Yeah, yeah, so okay, I can't believe
Speaker 1: we missed that though.
Speaker 2: That's right when we should have gone.
Speaker 3: To I'm sure it was so amazing. We will have
Speaker 3: a chance to do it again. They will bring.
Speaker 2: It on ourselves.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you do. I'll do all the descendant songs. You
Speaker 1: do all the zombie songs, and we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: You do all the dancing. I'll just sit in a
Speaker 1: chair and badly sing.
Speaker 3: And see if we can sell, and also judge, because
Speaker 3: that's what your other one of your other podcast is
Speaker 3: is now you're a professional dance judge.
Speaker 1: So there you get come pretty damn good at it.
Speaker 1: If if I'm good, thank you. Have you been listening
Speaker 1: to pods?
Speaker 3: Have you're hilarious?
Speaker 1: Are we right?
Speaker 3: I mean yes, but like no, it's like it's like yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: but I think the whole point is about it's so funny.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: We're having fun.
Speaker 1: But anyway, welcome back to this podcast, but just magical.
Speaker 1: Rewind the show that makes you want to grab your friends,
Speaker 1: your pj's and your popcorn and go back to a
Speaker 1: time when all the Housers are smart. The Waves, Tsunamis
Speaker 1: and Miss Sky only had three hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 3: I'm Wilfredll and I'm Sabriena Bryant.
Speaker 1: Well, everybody, spooky season rolls on, but this week we're
Speaker 1: not only focusing on the scares.
Speaker 2: We're checking out a sequel.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's two thousand and seven spell binding follow up
Speaker 1: to a DCOM favorite. It's Twitches to Electric Boogaloo.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wish that was the name.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's just Twitches Too. But let's not get
Speaker 1: it twisted. That is spelled T, not two or the
Speaker 1: number two. It's Twitches also, essentially is what.
Speaker 2: The title means.
Speaker 1: This movie aired on October twelfth, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: and it's proximity to Halloween should come as no surprise.
Speaker 1: It's the Witch and Black Magic focus sequel to two
Speaker 1: thousand and fives Twitches, and was the only this is
Speaker 1: kind of amazing the only non musical dcom sequel for
Speaker 1: fifteen years until they eventually aired under Wraps two.
Speaker 2: This time It's.
Speaker 1: Personal in twenty twenty two. Twitches Too was also later
Speaker 1: referred to as The Witches of Coventry two for reasons
Speaker 1: I couldn't really figure out Sabrina any theories on why
Speaker 1: it would later get a name change, is it because
Speaker 1: it still rhymes with what? I don't know. What do
Speaker 1: you think it is?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Coventry is where they're from, right, so
Speaker 3: they were like defending. We're in a movie where they're
Speaker 3: defending the Coventry again. So I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 3: That would be that'd be my take at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why wouldn't it just be Twitches to the whole time?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It definitely wasn't really necessary necessary.
Speaker 2: It doesn't like, you know, it didn't add to anything.
Speaker 3: Or No, no, there was nothing missing with twitches too
Speaker 3: in anything right correct?
Speaker 1: But no matter the title, it was a big hit
Speaker 1: for the channel, drawing in just under seven million viewers
Speaker 1: on its first run and marking the debut of a
Speaker 1: little show called Wizards of Waverly Place. Yes that's right.
Speaker 1: The eventual Seminal TV show premiered it's pilot right after
Speaker 1: this movie aired, forever changing what was to come for
Speaker 1: Disney especially, we came to the eventual face of the network.
Speaker 1: Somebody who is I've been doing some research on her
Speaker 1: name is Selena Gomezie if I'm pronouncing it right. No,
Speaker 1: nos Selena.
Speaker 3: She is amongst the royalty Rushmore, she is a giant
Speaker 3: for the Channel, Princess Selena Gomez and ugh, she's not
Speaker 3: just the cutest thing in the world and now just
Speaker 3: the most gorgeous woman with such a great calling for
Speaker 3: all things talent and like humanitarian. I'm obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: You are? Is she the murders in the building? One?
Speaker 1: She is?
Speaker 4: She is?
Speaker 3: Okay, yes she is, and she kills it.
Speaker 2: She's so good.
Speaker 3: She's so good.
Speaker 1: She just got married too, apparently did she?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, I missed that, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently not that.
Speaker 3: Mikayla's over there shaking her head at me.
Speaker 2: I could feel it through this weekend.
Speaker 1: She got married? Yeah, yeah, okay, well, congratulations yes.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Usually in dcom sequels, Disney uses their big legal department
Speaker 1: to make sure all the original stars returned, but with
Speaker 1: Twitches Too, that was not the case. Eventual Shit's Creek
Speaker 1: star Jennifer Robinson, who played Elina in the first film,
Speaker 1: was replaced by Leslie Seeler I think that's how you
Speaker 1: say her name is Syler, and David Ingram did not
Speaker 1: return as Aaron, instead replaced by Kevin Jubenville. So are
Speaker 1: two kind of favorite characters from the first one that
Speaker 1: we loved.
Speaker 2: They replaced both the actors.
Speaker 1: Wonder why they filmed the movie in Toronto or Toronto
Speaker 1: as you say it if you're from there, a very
Speaker 1: predictable location for a d com, and they utilize one
Speaker 1: of Toronto's most famous spots, Castle Loma. It's a Gothic
Speaker 1: revival castle that is a landmark in Canada and was
Speaker 1: once the residence of financier Sir Henry Pellett. You may
Speaker 1: have even recognized it for movies like X Men Strange Brew.
Speaker 2: Which is one of the greatest movies of all time.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, Sabrino, we need to talk
Speaker 1: Scott Pilgrim, the Tuxedo and the music video for a
Speaker 1: Drake and Future song Wait for You.
Speaker 2: I don't know what any of those.
Speaker 1: Last words mean. This also ushered in a bit of
Speaker 1: a new era for dcoms when it comes to special effects.
Speaker 1: We will get into that Twitches to utilize a lot
Speaker 1: of green screen and special effects, which is something that
Speaker 1: we are very used to now, obviously with zombies and descendents,
Speaker 1: but this was one of their first real moves towards that.
Speaker 1: Much more than the original Twitches. Did you notice they
Speaker 1: did a lot of effects.
Speaker 3: They did a lot.
Speaker 1: Did you like them?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't either.
Speaker 3: They looked really cheesy. This You know, again, it's hard
Speaker 3: because we are bouncing all over the spectrum of these
Speaker 3: d coms, and after seeing so many things that we've seen,
Speaker 3: now going back to that and it's like, oh man, yeah,
Speaker 3: they might have been totally cutting edge for two thousand
Speaker 3: and seven, but I just can't remember. I mean not really,
Speaker 3: because that was like after the days of I mean
Speaker 3: maybe for the Channel, but you're talking like Buffy the
Speaker 3: Vampire Slayer. You're talking about like eras of like vampires
Speaker 3: and different special effects even just like kind of makeup stuff.
Speaker 3: There was nothing like that. No, but I feel like
Speaker 3: cosmetics might have been a little bit cheaper and.
Speaker 1: Lots better, maybe because I thought just a lot of
Speaker 1: it didn't look great to me.
Speaker 2: I just really didn't.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that's amazing to me,
Speaker 1: because these effects didn't look great to me. But they
Speaker 1: cranked up the budget so it wasn't cheap. So the
Speaker 1: research you were able to do the reported budget for
Speaker 1: this movie in two thousand and seven, A decom was
Speaker 1: twenty six point five million dollars way, which is a
Speaker 1: massive investment for the Channel, especially in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 1: That's thirty seven billion dollars now or whatever the hell
Speaker 1: that would be in in today's dollars. But that's ridiculous huge,
Speaker 1: And it didn't look that great for a budget that big.
Speaker 3: No, But I mean, you've got the twins in it.
Speaker 3: They are talk about dcom royalty. I mean you've got
Speaker 3: so yes, it's like, you know, I feel like for
Speaker 3: them to get them to jump on board to do
Speaker 3: a second one, they were gonna have to push up
Speaker 3: this budget. You know, didn't look great, didn't translate like
Speaker 3: you was, but you know, this was this was again
Speaker 3: not a lot of magic. I mean, at this point
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, what did we have Halloween down? Yes,
Speaker 3: and any I mean well, and then we had the
Speaker 3: movie that we just watched recently with the bubbles that
Speaker 3: were flying in the air.
Speaker 2: Oh godbe.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, yeah, there wasn't. It just doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like the Channel was able to had honed this kind
Speaker 3: of aspect in within their actual d coms just yet.
Speaker 2: So agreed, So we knew of Twitches too.
Speaker 1: Considering we mentioned it during Twitches one, but were you
Speaker 1: excited about seeing the second chapter? A? And then sub question,
Speaker 1: did you remember anything from the first movie before you
Speaker 1: turn this one on?
Speaker 3: Okay, I did remember the first movie. I specifically remembered
Speaker 3: the necklace because I had a lot to say about
Speaker 3: the necklaces the first one. And they're back.
Speaker 1: Yes, the giant necklaces are back.
Speaker 3: Dienormous necklaces are back. I remember that. That's how they
Speaker 3: came together. I couldn't remember where. I remember the storyline
Speaker 3: where we see again the mom and the dad that
Speaker 3: had raised one of the twins, but I couldn't remember
Speaker 3: where the other twin came from. That's when that was
Speaker 3: tripping me up in the beginning, a little bit of
Speaker 3: not really remembering her storyline of who raised her and
Speaker 3: where she was coming from. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: questions though, as I kept going through the movie going
Speaker 3: wait what, Wait a minute.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was the same way by the way I remembered.
Speaker 1: I remembered enough of the movie that by the time
Speaker 1: this movie started and they did the very mini recap,
Speaker 1: then I was right back on board, Like I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I remember everything about the first movie.
Speaker 3: Now because yeah, which is so, And I don't remember
Speaker 3: one thing. I couldn't really really remember. And of course
Speaker 3: when you kind of go just back and look at pictures,
Speaker 3: I feel like the twins never aged, but how they
Speaker 3: They seemed to have aged out of the first movie
Speaker 3: pretty drastically because we're now like kind of.
Speaker 2: More like they're supposed to be twenty one.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like in college. They're not going to a
Speaker 3: high school. If that was supposed to be high school that.
Speaker 2: They No, No, that was college. Yeah, No, that was
Speaker 2: college they're supposed to be.
Speaker 3: So they've definitely had like an age thing with the twins,
Speaker 3: so and their characters. But I couldn't really remember. Were
Speaker 3: they in high school the first one? Were they like
Speaker 3: quite a few years younger?
Speaker 1: No? No, I think she was still in college, wasn't she?
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I think Tamara was in college. Okay, Mara's character was
Speaker 1: in college and TIA's wasn't. Oh god, see, this is
Speaker 1: why we have to watch the first one again. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is one of our problems that but this is
Speaker 1: one of our problems is that we do the sequels
Speaker 1: so separate.
Speaker 3: From each other.
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking today I was like, did have
Speaker 1: we done Xenon two yet? And we haven't, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to go back and watch zen On one
Speaker 1: because I don't remember anything from Xenon one, the fact
Speaker 1: that she's like an alien or whatever. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: we got to figure I gotta I know, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, she lives on the space station. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know it's like, yeah, maybe we got to
Speaker 1: start watching these closer to each other, but I like
Speaker 1: spacing them out.
Speaker 2: But then I don't remember what that what the hell are?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I but to answer your question, yes, anything with
Speaker 3: the two of them in I'm on board because they
Speaker 3: were They talked about nostalgia, talk about just good such
Speaker 3: great actors they were. They are such such good actors,
Speaker 3: and for me, like a huge part of my childhood
Speaker 3: was watching them grow up on Sister Sister, you know,
Speaker 3: so I was excited just to see where this one,
Speaker 3: where this one went, and then you know, I hit
Speaker 3: some bumps along the way, and then let's talk about it,
Speaker 3: the lost let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's first remember that it's almost time for the solar eclipse,
Speaker 1: so get ready to free your dad from the shadows.
Speaker 1: But first the synopsis, Twin Witches Alex and Cameron returned
Speaker 1: to Coventry to strengthen their magical powers and protect their kingdom,
Speaker 1: but when an old evil force re emerges, they must
Speaker 1: learn to trust each other and save both worlds. The
Speaker 1: movie is directed by Stuart Gillard, a very interesting name
Speaker 1: in the lex kind of d coms. We've talked about
Speaker 1: the Canadian writer, producer and actor before. He directed Full
Speaker 1: Court Miracle, Hatching Pete, the Return of Shaggy Dog, the
Speaker 1: Original Twitches, but most notably, he made Going to the Mat,
Speaker 1: So he's got some great ones in his in his
Speaker 1: resume there. He would later go on to work on
Speaker 1: Teenage Mutant, Ninja, Turtles three, and TV shows like Charmed one,
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, Nino two and zero, and Jane the Virgin.
Speaker 1: Like the original of the movie, stars the lej Deerry
Speaker 1: moo Re twins Tia and Tamara, best known for their
Speaker 1: sitcom Sister Sister. They both also appeared in movies like
Speaker 1: Hot Chick and a reality show about their family from
Speaker 1: twenty eleven to twenty.
Speaker 2: Thirteen, which did Not Know Exist.
Speaker 1: They would eventually separate into individual performers, Tia now focusing
Speaker 1: on cooking projects, while also voicing Sasha in All Things Brats.
Speaker 2: While you've seen.
Speaker 1: Tamara on the talk show The Real and as a
Speaker 1: regular on the Hallmark Channel, Kristen Wilson returns as Miranda.
Speaker 1: She played Lisa Doolittle and the Eddie Murphy version of
Speaker 1: Doctor Doolittle and appeared in movies like Bulletproof and Walking Tall.
Speaker 1: It seems she left the business in twenty eleven, and
Speaker 1: then Patrick Fabi, an old friend of mine, is the
Speaker 1: villain Fantos. A well known character actor. He's been seen
Speaker 1: in tons of TV shows, including Tracker, Lucifer, and the Newsroom,
Speaker 1: but most of our listeners will recognize him as Howard
Speaker 1: Hamlin in The Breaking batspin off Better Call Saul. He
Speaker 1: was also on Friends. He's done everything, and he and
Speaker 1: I did a pilot together. He is a very very
Speaker 1: nice guy. And the movie runs, Oh I just need
Speaker 1: a moment, people, A very very impressive age three minutes.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever been this proud of a film.
Speaker 1: It's well below the target seven minutes under ninety in fact,
Speaker 1: and just an overall breeze to watch. I've had longer messages,
Speaker 1: so kudos to those who made this decision.
Speaker 3: That's our boys too. I feel like when we have
Speaker 3: his movies, they are always under the mark. Very rarely
Speaker 3: has any of his movies been over the night.
Speaker 2: It's true. Like here you go, here's a movie. It's
Speaker 2: eighty minutes long, Relliant and.
Speaker 1: The movie was written by another familiar name, Dan Berenson.
Speaker 1: He was a writer and executive ducer of Sabrina the
Speaker 1: Teenage Witch and wrote a plethora of great d coms.
Speaker 1: Here's the list again, people camp Rock to Hannah, Montana
Speaker 1: the movie, The Wizard of Waverley Place movie, and Eddie's
Speaker 1: Million Dollar Cookoff.
Speaker 2: Dude, just play baseball and cook you can do them both.
Speaker 1: So everybody, now, why don't you hold onto your vanquishing
Speaker 1: spell because we need all the magic we can get.
Speaker 2: It's time to break down twitches also, which is technically
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: We open on the luminous Castle of Coventry and immediately
Speaker 1: notice they have spent way more money on the effects.
Speaker 1: Right off the bat, although it still didn't look great.
Speaker 1: We get a small narrated reminder of what's happened so far, which,
Speaker 1: if you need a refresher, goes a little something like this.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna do it in a funny voice.
Speaker 1: Years ago, Voices of Darkness tried to take over Coventry,
Speaker 1: and in the process, instead of twins, Alex and Cameron
Speaker 1: were bowing. That's all I'm giving you. That's really kind
Speaker 1: of what it was. Are we a fan of the
Speaker 1: creative twin names where they have the same first letter
Speaker 1: in rhymes like Tia tamara or do you like the
Speaker 1: two totally unrelated names twins, I.
Speaker 3: Ta Tamara like all the way, I've got twins friends
Speaker 3: that are Mina and Marinakarina and Carisa. That is the
Speaker 3: way to go with twins in wow, full blown opinion.
Speaker 3: It makes it twins really crazy, makes it really hard.
Speaker 3: You're constantly be calling being called the wrong name. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but whatever, you're twins. You have a luxury.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up with two twins born on Christmas Day,
Speaker 1: Holly and Noel.
Speaker 3: Oh my very nice.
Speaker 2: I forget that for as long as I thank you.
Speaker 2: Never forget that.
Speaker 1: I dated Noel. My friend dated Holly.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Well we were in the fifth grade, so
Speaker 2: it was very serious.
Speaker 1: Back to the origin here, the twins were separated and
Speaker 1: hidden in another dimension and then twenty one years later,
Speaker 1: the sisters literally running to each other and returned to
Speaker 1: their homeland of Coventry, where they defeated their evil uncle Fantos.
Speaker 1: After destroying Darkness Forever, a large optimistic claim on their part,
Speaker 1: they met their mom and everything seemed honky dory until
Speaker 1: they needed a sequel, and then the dory was no
Speaker 1: longer honky. So we jumped to present day Cameron and
Speaker 1: Alex's mom, the Queen Miranda, is on the castle balcony,
Speaker 1: seemingly stressed about something. She picks up a bound hardcover
Speaker 1: book and looks at it, and it's a painted portrait
Speaker 1: of Fantos, but it's not it's actually her deceased husband.
Speaker 2: She admits she misses him, then leaves.
Speaker 1: Once in the hallways, we see she's being followed by
Speaker 1: a ghost of sorts, a spirit shadow that whispers her name,
Speaker 1: though she doesn't see the apparition. She seems scared. She
Speaker 1: tries to lock herself in, but little does she know,
Speaker 1: the spirit has already entered. And here's where I was.
Speaker 1: My fantasy brain went no no, no, no, no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 1: How is the entire shadow world one small hallway. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's it. It's one hallway that's eight feet long. Is
Speaker 1: the shadow world?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: This is what we get for twenty seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: This is the start of the special effects too. I
Speaker 3: mean besides the like green screened, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: castle type thing. This is the start where you see
Speaker 3: what the shadow is and you're going, I have to
Speaker 3: pretend like that looks like anything real, right, And it's
Speaker 3: the start of something that I'm gonna have to just
Speaker 3: repeat myself when it comes to Sabrina Seas. The amount
Speaker 3: of times these people are alone and ask is anyone there?
Speaker 3: This is when we get the first one. Yes, Miranda.
Speaker 3: Those squeaks are like, it's like turn and run, hello.
Speaker 1: Don't They're saying it's going like Miranda, and she's like,
Speaker 1: is anyone there? It's saying your name in the one hallway?
Speaker 6: Go.
Speaker 3: The answer is start sprinting as fast as you can
Speaker 3: to wherever type of safety you have. Don't ask about
Speaker 3: what who's there? Who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, is there also a reason why the only way
Speaker 1: to get to your office is through the shadow world?
Speaker 1: Like this hallway it connects to his office.
Speaker 3: That's but yeah, but it seems like this is a
Speaker 3: part of the castle. It's like the west Wing and
Speaker 3: Beauty and the Beast that like you do not go
Speaker 3: into anymore. It's not really a part like Miranda seems
Speaker 3: to be the one that goes in there.
Speaker 1: You know, official another hallway, build another hallway to get
Speaker 1: you to the office. You shouldn't have to go through
Speaker 1: the nine foot shadow world to get to your office.
Speaker 1: It just seems strange.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Oh man, oh, Michayla's saying that this movie scared
Speaker 3: her watching it was this time.
Speaker 1: I should hope so well.
Speaker 2: I hope it's scared her because the effects are so bad.
Speaker 1: She's like, this is scary. How they spent all this
Speaker 1: money and I can't tell where it went. But yes again,
Speaker 1: tien ta merit. They save it because they're great. Anyway,
Speaker 1: she doesn't see the apparition, seems scared, locks herself in
Speaker 1: the quarters, but spirits already entered the room. And now
Speaker 1: we're back on Earth. Cameron is eating a chef prepared
Speaker 1: breakfast in her large mansion with her parents. She didn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of sleep because her sister Alex, who
Speaker 1: she's just reunited with, was up all night stressing about
Speaker 1: college and drawing images that look like they're from the castle.
Speaker 1: And this is when I remembered, like, oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: she draws stuff, and all this stuff comes true that
Speaker 1: she draws her the stories that she tells her Mom
Speaker 1: encourages her to give it some time to settle in,
Speaker 1: especially since she's just learning magic with a lot of
Speaker 1: mistakes along the way. She's also been getting some visions
Speaker 1: and she knows something has felt very wrong lately. Now
Speaker 1: we're in Alex's bedroom. She's still asleep when a shadowy
Speaker 1: fog like the one she saw before, seeps into her room.
Speaker 1: We see a hand form from it. It's about to
Speaker 1: grab her and do what who knows? And also why
Speaker 1: does it have to grab her because it just floats
Speaker 1: through other people takes over their bodies, so why not
Speaker 1: just float into her to take over her body?
Speaker 2: Why does it have to grab her?
Speaker 1: But okay, so yeah, that's when Cameron enters her room,
Speaker 1: scaring the hand with a scream. Cameron uses magic to
Speaker 1: flip up her sister's cot, trapping her against the wall
Speaker 1: but saving her from the weird hand force. The bed
Speaker 1: eventually falls back down and the sisters are at each
Speaker 1: other's throats, Cameron swears that she saw something. In retaliation,
Speaker 1: Alex turns her sister blue, much like what was her name?
Speaker 1: Violet Beauregard in Willie Mutton Chocolate Factory, and Camera responds
Speaker 1: by giving her sister a tale. As they argue, their
Speaker 1: parents watch on, confused on what to do, but her
Speaker 1: dad spots a shadowy figure running in the hallway, but
Speaker 1: thinks it's just his eyes playing tricks on him. And
Speaker 1: now we're back at breakfast, Emil. This family apparently loves eating,
Speaker 1: because that's all they eat the entire movie. It's just breakfast, breakfast, breakfast, breakfast, breakfast,
Speaker 1: Alex thinks. Alex thanks everyone for letting her stay while
Speaker 1: she goes back to school or tries to get into college.
Speaker 1: And despite this new life for Alex, she continues to
Speaker 1: bicker back and forth with Cameron. But before they can
Speaker 1: really fight, we hear a splash, something huge touch down
Speaker 1: in their pool, and lo and behold, it's Carsionalalina, the
Speaker 1: fast talking guardian Angels who looked after the Twins and
Speaker 1: Twitches won and despite some pretty terrible green screen, it
Speaker 1: was nice to see them again, don't you think, Sabrina yes,
Speaker 1: even though they's different, but she's different. I mean, the
Speaker 1: woman from Shit's Creek was hysterical.
Speaker 3: So funny, Yeah, so funny. But you know, I feel
Speaker 3: like that. I feel like I mean, I know we
Speaker 3: talked about it in the intro, but it does seem
Speaker 3: like that happens pretty easily. And a lot of the
Speaker 3: either dcoms or the shows, like they come back and
Speaker 3: they've been recast.
Speaker 1: I think Disney is famous for if somebody says, hey,
Speaker 1: we're doing a sequel at like a little bit of
Speaker 1: a raise and it's not Tia and Tamara, and it's
Speaker 1: not somebody who's integral to the story, they gonah, we'll
Speaker 1: replace you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's they just it's like, hey, we're making
Speaker 1: movies for twelve year olds. A lot of them are
Speaker 1: not going to recognize the fact that this person is different.
Speaker 3: Or you give them like a really quick storyline. So
Speaker 3: and so had to go do this for a semi
Speaker 3: reschool program.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, and then you're done and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Uh So, Yeah, that's that's where we get it. It's
Speaker 1: also if you watch them this scene back, it looks
Speaker 1: very much like they reverse the footage so they probably
Speaker 1: stood at the end of the pool, shook it out
Speaker 1: and then jumped into the water, and then they reverse
Speaker 1: it to look like they jump out of the pool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that happens a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like it does. Yeah, that's a big that's
Speaker 1: a big thing with.
Speaker 3: The magic with your vases and stuff. Ye, that's how
Speaker 3: it looks like they did all that.
Speaker 2: They broke, broke a lot of vases with magic. I
Speaker 2: hate to be it's if there's magic about it, always
Speaker 2: a vase.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really weird, right, yes, strange. Well, the whole family is
Speaker 1: excited to see them, so they run out to greet
Speaker 1: them with pancakes because still eating breakfast, and Carshonallina announced
Speaker 1: they're getting married a Guardian Angel union and they want
Speaker 1: the girls there for the wedding. And while celebrating, carshpots
Speaker 1: Cameron's sketchbook and is visibly worried. He notices their father's family.
Speaker 1: Crest Alex also admits she's been dreaming about him every night.
Speaker 1: But Aaron died the night the twins were born, so
Speaker 1: maybe these girls are just going crazy. This is also
Speaker 1: the first time the girls hear their dad is dead,
Speaker 1: so that was a cool way to find out. Also,
Speaker 1: they're visiting the girls because their mom would like to
Speaker 1: see them pronto. Alex is not excited about this trip.
Speaker 1: She has college to attend, so she just leaves, while Cameron,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is excited for the royal title
Speaker 1: that awaits her. Now we're at Coventry. Miranda hugs Cameron,
Speaker 1: relieved to see she's safe and ready to secure the castle,
Speaker 1: but won't explain why. With Alex starting college, they have
Speaker 1: to make do without her. But with that, Cameron has
Speaker 1: taken away to change and meet with Elena to start
Speaker 1: some sort of magic spell tutoring, which she needs. But
Speaker 1: once Cameron's gone, the angels are not very happy with
Speaker 1: the Queen with how much she's sugarcoating the castle's problems.
Speaker 1: They know that something evil is moving through the shadow Lands,
Speaker 1: which again is that very small hallway, and they think
Speaker 1: it's Thantos. That he's still alive and if he regains
Speaker 1: human form, he will go after the twins. First, just
Speaker 1: stay out of that hallway. And now we're at Waverley
Speaker 1: University for Alex's first day. She's trying to find her
Speaker 1: way around campuspite upbeat pop music. She's lost and still
Speaker 1: being followed by that same black smoke. She's stopped by
Speaker 1: a guy who thinks he knows her, which is very
Speaker 1: confusing for Alex. He says he's surprised to see her
Speaker 1: new haircut, and though she pretends to know him, she
Speaker 1: has no clue who she is. But he does call
Speaker 1: her Cam, so that's not right. And then Beth walks
Speaker 1: up a friend from the first movie. She also thinks
Speaker 1: this is Cameron at first, but realizes quickly that it's Alex. Also,
Speaker 1: that guy was Cameron's ex boyfriend, Marcus Warburton. Great dcom name,
Speaker 1: by the way, Marcus Warburton. It's been a minute since
Speaker 1: we've added a good name to the dcom list. I
Speaker 1: don't know if this one makes the cut for the
Speaker 1: dcom list best.
Speaker 3: Name, No, but it's good one.
Speaker 1: But it's a solid name. Marcus Warburton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely good.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems Cameron broke up with Marcus Warburton two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and by the way, it's all I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call him is Marcus.
Speaker 2: I'm using his whole name every time, and.
Speaker 1: They don't talk anymore, but we can tell Alex thinks
Speaker 1: he's hot, and Beth promises not to tell Cameron anything
Speaker 1: about this, but that's a total lie because she immediately
Speaker 1: texts her every single detail.
Speaker 2: Good friend, that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Cameron is getting fitted for a princess dress and tiara,
Speaker 1: which I think everyone should wear all the time. Back
Speaker 1: at the castle, she stumbles on a magic book and
Speaker 1: tries one of its spells, making some again flowers in
Speaker 1: a vase or vase levitate, then fly at rocket speed
Speaker 1: towards the door. Luckily, it's caught by another cute boy, Dmitri,
Speaker 1: who hands it back to Cameron. She drops it, then,
Speaker 1: breaking into pieces because she's so taken with his looks.
Speaker 1: He advises her to stop trying so hard, advice most
Speaker 1: people in the world could.
Speaker 2: Follow, and he elludes that he's a prince.
Speaker 1: She leaves to find Alina, taking a magic book and
Speaker 1: stumbling along the way. Did you know this guy.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a prince right away?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Of course? Like this was not secret, right yeah.
Speaker 3: There, I feel like we would have known, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, it just made it. It was an obvious.
Speaker 1: I agree it was not a good red herring. But
Speaker 1: once she's gone, Felix, another suited guy walks in. He's
Speaker 1: disturbed by what he overheard. Dmitri is in fact not
Speaker 1: a prince. Wait what? And he has no magical powers.
Speaker 1: He actually works in the kitchen. We're back at the
Speaker 1: college now, Marcus.
Speaker 2: I'm saying his whole name again.
Speaker 1: Marcus Warburton finds Alex Beth told him it's Cam's sister,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop him from just cutting to the
Speaker 1: chase and asking her out, even though he just dated
Speaker 1: her identical twin. A may have that kind of confidence
Speaker 1: to just ask out my ex girlfriend's twin sister, but
Speaker 1: b doesn't that kind of make him creepy right off
Speaker 1: the bat, that you're asking out your yes ex's twin sister.
Speaker 3: They're not just like twins like somewhat look like either.
Speaker 3: They're no identical, Like there's only one thing that is different, right, one.
Speaker 2: Has like a mole a birth mark.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: A birthmark?
Speaker 2: Yeah that's me, that is it.
Speaker 3: And so yes, it's weird.
Speaker 2: And creepy and yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: So and I love the way they played it for
Speaker 3: her too, like she kind of had the ick like
Speaker 3: you're cute but ill.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was my sister. Yeah, yeah, Alex says it's
Speaker 1: a terrible idea, which it is, so Marcus Warburton tries
Speaker 1: to sugarcoat it by saying they broke up because they
Speaker 1: didn't have much in common, which does not in fact
Speaker 1: make it any better. Alex leaves Marcus Warburton behind, and
Speaker 1: he's immediately overtaken by the Black Fog Shadow. He responds
Speaker 1: by asking Alice if he could walk her home. She agrees,
Speaker 1: but something's up. So the Black Shadow can just go
Speaker 1: through you and take over your body. So why did
Speaker 1: it need a hand with the sister?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't understand what, Carl, do you feel like it
Speaker 3: was just to let us know that it is in
Speaker 3: fact taking over people's bodies because nothing to keep going
Speaker 3: because nothing comes like this, Like the Shadow already knows
Speaker 3: where they live right in this realm, so he didn't
Speaker 3: need to go. But it wasn't like that's how he
Speaker 3: was figuring out where they live, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Nothing happens with the entire Marcus Warburton storyline because literally
Speaker 1: at the end, you don't know, like who is this
Speaker 1: guy dating?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: Like none of this makes any We'll get into it
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. So yes, we now go back
Speaker 1: to the castle where we rejoined camera, and now with
Speaker 1: half of her body stuck in a wall, a spell
Speaker 1: has gone horribly wrong and she's crying for help. She's
Speaker 1: eventually helped by Karsh and Alina, but the duo can't
Speaker 1: stay long. They're off to deal with a looming force
Speaker 1: on Earth. And now alone and out of the wall,
Speaker 1: Cameron runs the hallways. Spooked by a mysterious door opening
Speaker 1: all by itself, she enters, with the butler friend of
Speaker 1: Dmitri Felix following close behind. It all leads to a
Speaker 1: big spiral staircase, where the black Fog attacks Felix and
Speaker 1: then continues for Cameron. She eventually lands in a big
Speaker 1: room filled with gargoyles and a large, very deep well
Speaker 1: that's obviously the large, very deep well room, and as
Speaker 1: she gazes into it, the black fog creeps in and
Speaker 1: grows a hand again occasionally just growing a hand, but
Speaker 1: instead of pushing her in, it drops a gold ring
Speaker 1: engraved with a moon, which.
Speaker 2: We recognize as her father's crest.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Alex is doing schoolwork when she hears a mysterious
Speaker 1: voice whisper arta mess, and even weirder, Marcus, who remember
Speaker 1: might be possessed, is just staring at the house from
Speaker 1: across the street. This is exactly what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: None of this pays off in any way paper form does.
Speaker 1: Does anything with the black fog taking people over have
Speaker 1: anything to do with anything except maybe later with the dad.
Speaker 3: At the very end, at the very end, But really, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it doesn't really like control them to where they cause
Speaker 3: chaos in any sense. Once when with the shadow, you know,
Speaker 3: consuming their body. Nothing, it's just again I don't know
Speaker 3: what it was, just to let us know that the
Speaker 3: uncle was there, right, I.
Speaker 1: Got, yeah, I know. It just it just doesn't pay off.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't pay off in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: It was about this time where I was like, huh, man,
Speaker 1: I should watch go into the mat again anyway. That
Speaker 1: is when Cameron returns home through the portal which is
Speaker 1: in the closet. Of course, she has the ring, but
Speaker 1: is now more concerned about the whole Marcus situation.
Speaker 2: I won't say his name the whole time, which.
Speaker 1: Is right because her ex now wants to date her
Speaker 1: twin and that seems very very Jerry Springer. But the
Speaker 1: ring isn't Alex thinks is another sign that their dad
Speaker 1: is still alive. She knows he's trapped in a place
Speaker 1: called the shadow Lands, and so they go and tell Miranda,
Speaker 1: but a storm takes over their room, slamming doors shut
Speaker 1: with large gusts of wind. It's Carson Alina entering with
Speaker 1: bad news. Fantos is back, so the girls rush back
Speaker 1: to Coventry, confused, how is he alive? Miranda explains that
Speaker 1: apparently whatever was left of him clung to life in
Speaker 1: the shadow Lands. The girls shoot each other, look, this
Speaker 1: is where they think their dad is too. Miranda Devil's
Speaker 1: she felt a dark presence in the castle lately, and
Speaker 1: once Felix was attacked, she knew she was onto something.
Speaker 1: She thinks it's Thantos hopping dimensions and hopes they're not
Speaker 1: too late to stop him from regaining his human form.
Speaker 1: The girls are told they're the only ones that can
Speaker 1: stop him, and so they were the only ones that
Speaker 1: could do it in the first place, now the only
Speaker 1: ones that can do it again. It seems like with
Speaker 1: all the magic in the land, the fact that these
Speaker 1: two young twitches, it's like it's all on them, and
Speaker 1: now they even point that out. At one point they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we could get some help from you, and like
Speaker 1: our guardians and everyone around us with Matt, you think, yeah, you're.
Speaker 3: Just like, why are we leaving this up? The like
Speaker 3: ultimate of saving the entire realm or whatever this place
Speaker 3: is called, is left on the shoulders of two ding
Speaker 3: dongs that don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Two rookies.
Speaker 3: It's like when I left my friend with Ledger and
Speaker 3: she was like, you left a rookie for dinner time
Speaker 3: and you gave me Rice. Why'd you give me Rice?
Speaker 3: With Ledger? All he did was to throw it everywhere.
Speaker 3: Of course, see, totally bad, smart, totally bad move on
Speaker 3: my part.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite jokes of all time is from
Speaker 1: Mitch Hedberg, who said, I love Rice.
Speaker 2: It's great when you're hungry and want two thousand of something.
Speaker 2: Great joke.
Speaker 1: Miranda says that in two days there will be a
Speaker 1: solar eclipse, which means the girls will be more powerful
Speaker 1: than ever apparently, so they'll need to perform the Vanquishing
Speaker 1: spell to destroy everything in the shadow Lands, which they
Speaker 1: realize will also kill their dad, which they think is
Speaker 1: there but maybe that's just a nice way to clean
Speaker 1: up that one hallway, which is apparently all of the
Speaker 1: shadow lands. Miranda is shocked to hear they think Aaron
Speaker 1: is alive and insists, even with the ring they found,
Speaker 1: their dad is dead. She searched for years, and she
Speaker 1: believes all these signs are just the evil work of fantos.
Speaker 1: Carcionalalina are instructed to teach the girls the vanquishing spell,
Speaker 1: but when the girls try to perform it, they completely
Speaker 1: flub it, charring Carsonalalina like a broken barbecue. Once the
Speaker 1: sisters get it together, they bust out a signature Go
Speaker 1: Twitches Dance, only broken up when Cameron spots Dimitri, who
Speaker 1: ran by holding a giant golden ball for some reason.
Speaker 1: Even though she's shouting at him, he won't stop. He
Speaker 1: eventually does stop and continues the facade that he's a prince,
Speaker 1: even though he has to dodge anything regarding performing magic.
Speaker 1: He asks out Cameron and she screams yes. A nearby
Speaker 1: Carsionalalna then order tea and sandwiches from him, revealing he
Speaker 1: really just works in the kitchen. They actually treat him
Speaker 1: like kind of a dick. He admits he's not a
Speaker 1: prince and walks off humiliated, but Alex chases after him.
Speaker 1: He begs her not to get him into trouble, but
Speaker 1: she makes him feel beat her about everything.
Speaker 2: You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: She encourages him to keep going for Cameron because it's
Speaker 1: obvious she likes him and it's not like dating her
Speaker 1: twin or anything like that, which is what Marcus Welby
Speaker 1: MD is up to. By the way, you never get
Speaker 1: a good Marcus Welby MD. You don't even know what
Speaker 1: that is, do you?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: There was a show I think it's called Marcus WELLBMD
Speaker 1: back in like the seventies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, this is me and what I know about.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this Selena Gomez and the marriages.
Speaker 1: But you talk about Marcus WELLBMD and I'll be there.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Yes, but Dmitri
Speaker 1: does have a favor to ask. He wants to borrow
Speaker 1: some magic. He wants to do something special for Cameron,
Speaker 1: and when she agrees, we also hear Dmitri scream a
Speaker 1: concerned Carson. Alena run in, and Cameron accuses the boy
Speaker 1: of being pantos, so she trapped him in a teapot.
Speaker 1: She thinks since he doesn't have magic, she can't trust him.
Speaker 1: She thought everyone in the castle had magic, but that's
Speaker 1: not the case. Miranda made it this random Plom's starting
Speaker 1: to like less and less. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It's only the Royals and the Protectors can have magic.
Speaker 1: She took it from everybody else. This idea infuriates Cameron,
Speaker 1: and rightly so, and so, of course, we go back
Speaker 1: to the college campus. Cameron pulls up in her convertible
Speaker 1: portie and finds Beth, who's happy to see her real
Speaker 1: life friend again. Alex is in the cafeteria with Marcus, studying,
Speaker 1: so that rat Beth snitches her out yet again, and
Speaker 1: then we get a little switcheroo scene here. So let
Speaker 1: me see if I can explain this correctly. Try to
Speaker 1: follow me. Alex leaves Marcus, so Cameron uses magic to
Speaker 1: change into Alex's clothes and take her place at the table,
Speaker 1: and also notice covered her. So I okay, I wondered
Speaker 1: when they did the old switcheroo, why didn't why they
Speaker 1: didn't have them just playing themselves, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: why didn't Tia keep playing but it wasn't. They covered
Speaker 1: her birthmark with makeup, and so she's playing her sister,
Speaker 1: playing herself.
Speaker 2: Yes, yikes, Okay, so.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I feel like they have to.
Speaker 1: I like that they did that.
Speaker 3: I feel like they'd have to because if, especially if
Speaker 3: you're someone like me who watched their show so much,
Speaker 3: they were never doing that. They were never doing like
Speaker 3: what a normal twin thing when they're younger, like on
Speaker 3: Full House and stuff like right, they were always playing
Speaker 3: themselves in their show. And I feel like, especially if
Speaker 3: I'd watched this closer to when I was watching the
Speaker 3: show show, you'd probably notice that. I think they act
Speaker 3: very differently. I think they've got big differences, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, And so I feel like you would
Speaker 3: notice that'd be crazy.
Speaker 2: I also like the idea that they had.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going to dress her up like my
Speaker 1: twin and I'm gonna pay so but it was it
Speaker 1: was Yeah, it's confused.
Speaker 3: It was fun for them. It's I'm sure it's it
Speaker 3: was fun for them to do.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 1: So Alex leaves Marcus, so Cameron uses magic to change
Speaker 1: into Alex's clothes and take her place at the table.
Speaker 1: This confuses him, but whoever it is is trying to
Speaker 1: date him again, so that's good. But then now Alex
Speaker 1: sees this happening from afar. No, she needs to fix this,
Speaker 1: so Alex turns into Cameron and interrupts the conversation. Now
Speaker 1: we have the twins pretending to be each other. Two
Speaker 1: sisters continue to bick her, forcing Marcus well BMD to
Speaker 1: eventually just get up and leave. Now without a stupid
Speaker 1: man in between them, they realize they can actually have
Speaker 1: to trust each other, just in time for Cameron to
Speaker 1: admit she lied. Marcus actually broke up with her for
Speaker 1: being self centered and shallow on the more pressing matters,
Speaker 1: though they're still convinced their dad is out there alive.
Speaker 1: They take another look at Alex's drawings and they realize
Speaker 1: she's been depicting a door in the castle that they
Speaker 1: need to find. They return to Coventry after some mediocre
Speaker 1: magic and quickly find the area sketch, but there's no door.
Speaker 1: This is when she drove the Porsche up the side
Speaker 1: of a building, which again I was sitting there going
Speaker 1: like wow, really really easy way to die if you're
Speaker 1: just throwing magic around like my god.
Speaker 2: So, yes, they find the.
Speaker 1: Area from the sketch, but there's no door. But once
Speaker 1: they walk into the wall, they walk right through it
Speaker 1: and into the dark cave. Yes, that one small hallway
Speaker 1: a black and now purple shadow. Fog Monster roars and
Speaker 1: starts to chase them. The girls outrun the shadow, ending
Speaker 1: up in their dad's study, closing the door just in time.
Speaker 1: Is this the only time we ever saw a purple.
Speaker 2: M I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I think no, I think we do see it purple again.
Speaker 3: I can't remember that. I can't. I think we do.
Speaker 3: But now it can't go.
Speaker 1: Through doors, right it can?
Speaker 3: Now it's changed.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Now my question is this is the thing
Speaker 1: that was never actually discussed in any way shape or form.
Speaker 1: Is one of the shadows in fact their dad and
Speaker 1: the other one is Santos? Yes, so that was their dad.
Speaker 1: That maybe the dad is still trapped in the phantom world,
Speaker 1: but Fantos can still get out.
Speaker 3: We never really one hundred percent know that, like what,
Speaker 3: we don't, even at some point it's made to feel
Speaker 3: like they're there. He's tricking the twins right like at
Speaker 3: the and then but like like who when they got
Speaker 3: the ring that I don't know. There was nothing, no
Speaker 3: way to really ever tell what shadow was, what character
Speaker 3: I agree on, which was confusing. It was really confusing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely hard to follow one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Uh yes. So and then they get a jump scare
Speaker 1: for Miranda, who's just hanging out in the study her
Speaker 1: dead husband, her dead husband's favorite room in the castle.
Speaker 1: She swears everything they're finding from their quote unquote dad
Speaker 1: is actually just Santo's deceiving them and they need to
Speaker 1: trust her. We also get a flashback of when Miranda
Speaker 1: and Aaron met and dance for an entire night. He
Speaker 1: gave her a star from the North sky as at
Speaker 1: present when they said goodbye, and yes it was a
Speaker 1: real star. I know I want you to get me
Speaker 1: for crazy, and it doesn't have to mean that we're
Speaker 1: in love or together forever, but I'd like to have
Speaker 1: a star in my pocket, and I'd like you to
Speaker 1: get it for me.
Speaker 3: I think I've actually gotten someone won before, or I
Speaker 3: know somebody who has done this where you can pick
Speaker 3: in the like you can and they get like a
Speaker 3: little map of it right where it is.
Speaker 1: You know who got me a star?
Speaker 2: Who? Jennifer love Hewitt see because she's magical.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Love Hewitt got me a star and we were
Speaker 1: to come when I was like twenty, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: There's been Yeah, I just saw a couple of you
Speaker 3: guys did some photo shoot take.
Speaker 1: Oh god, all the time on my feet.
Speaker 3: It looked like it was for like seventeen magazine or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 3: My gosh, so adorable. You and you, I know you've
Speaker 3: you've mentioned her before, and you you you use the
Speaker 3: word the name love like she doesn't actually go by
Speaker 3: Jennifer like most people would assume me. I assumed that.
Speaker 2: No, she's love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love just oh man.
Speaker 3: I just was such a fan of her.
Speaker 1: Always joke that we sounded like cave people when she
Speaker 1: would say I love you will, because it sounded like
Speaker 1: I love you will. So it was we would joke
Speaker 1: that we we sounded like.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's funny, I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So she bought me a story I wanted. Yes,
Speaker 1: who knows they disappear all the time. And once the
Speaker 1: girls leave the study, Miranda looks at her portrait of
Speaker 1: error and says, I'm sorry, I had no choice, and
Speaker 1: now I really don't trust this lady.
Speaker 3: I was getting I'm telling you, I was skeptical of
Speaker 3: this mom from the very beginning, right from that first
Speaker 3: scene of her on the balcony and then she goes
Speaker 3: into the study. Already, I'm like, something's up with her this,
Speaker 3: this guy has infiltrated her body with your shadow already.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to take that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go any jokes
Speaker 1: there Sabrina. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave like the big
Speaker 1: boy that I am. The girls then return home through
Speaker 1: Cameron's closet, and they find they are worried parents waiting
Speaker 1: for The girls try and pretend everything is totally fine
Speaker 1: in the Kingdom, but it's obvious that things are bad.
Speaker 1: This was a very funny scene, I thought, where it's
Speaker 1: like one of them's nodding and the other one shaking
Speaker 1: their head, and it's like, are you just trying not
Speaker 1: to tell us that something horrible is going on? Like, yes,
Speaker 1: that's basically what we're trying to tell you. It was
Speaker 1: very funny scene, but it's obvious things are bad. And
Speaker 1: when Cam's dad suggests that maybe Alice can call him dad,
Speaker 1: she says she's cool for now, which felt like one
Speaker 1: of the top five most awkward decom moments ever.
Speaker 2: Did you agree with that?
Speaker 3: I felt so bad for this, Dad's so bad. She
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, no, I'm good exactly.
Speaker 2: No, that's not gonna happen, Jerry or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it yes, sir, Yeah, she calls him like mister whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but why did he do that? There was no
Speaker 3: reason that, like their relationship has taken some type of turn,
Speaker 3: they're feeling very close. He wants to open up that
Speaker 3: option for her if she's comfortable with it. There was
Speaker 3: nothing like that prior to this obversation. Why did he
Speaker 3: do that? He set himself up for such like a
Speaker 3: let down.
Speaker 1: It wasn't And it's also here's the other thing. It
Speaker 1: never comes back in any way, shape or form, Like
Speaker 1: she never calls him down at the end.
Speaker 2: They don't bring it back in anyway.
Speaker 3: An awkward moment. I felt so horrible, like awkward, poor guy.
Speaker 1: And it was like, just puts it. I love how
Speaker 1: you said it here. It's so true where she's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, Nah, I'm good, smooth right along, I'm all set, thanks,
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Not interested now or never?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of things in this movie
Speaker 1: that just they never tied up in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or form.
Speaker 2: This was a big one.
Speaker 1: Later that night, these shadow fog monsters back looming around
Speaker 1: Cameron's house and eventually attacking their poor maid. This woman
Speaker 1: just trying to make a living. Who could get one?
Speaker 1: For most of this film, Yeah, it's funny, but it's like, damn, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's upstairs. The girls think maybe both Aaron and Thantos
Speaker 1: are alive. And this is also when I noticed the
Speaker 1: poster of pop star Marissa Minn in the background, some
Speaker 1: great generic art that was written by somebody. I've no
Speaker 1: idea if Marissa Minn is a real person. I've never
Speaker 1: heard that name. I have no idea who that is,
Speaker 1: So it's it's got to be a faki. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as Cameron turns her back, Alex is gone.
Speaker 1: Just as there's a knock of the door, it's the
Speaker 1: maid screaming snickerdoodles, snickerdoodles, snickerdoodles all over and over again
Speaker 1: at the top for lungs, holding a plate of cookies.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, so obviously she's been possessed.
Speaker 1: It was the only possible option So alex is back
Speaker 1: of Coventry, trying to confirm the suspicions about her dad
Speaker 1: when she falls asleep, only waking up the next morning
Speaker 1: to a gusta wind from an open window. She says,
Speaker 1: if Thantos is in the room, she's not afraid of them,
Speaker 1: but if it's erin her dad, she needs a sign,
Speaker 1: And then a star.
Speaker 2: Appears in the window.
Speaker 1: Remember remember the whole thing with the star star, that's
Speaker 1: what gave her mom on the night they met. It
Speaker 1: really is Hiro, why.
Speaker 2: But we don't know and we still are not.
Speaker 3: That's not convincing. I'm sorry in any way.
Speaker 1: Why not? Just right? It's really me?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, same something, Yeah, I promise, I promise.
Speaker 1: Hands emoji.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what's going on?
Speaker 1: She runs off but to find Miranda, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: seem excited about the news. She doesn't want to hear
Speaker 1: anything else about her dad. They're going to complete the
Speaker 1: vanquishing spell and kill off all the shadow lands.
Speaker 2: They cannot chance Thantos being a lot.
Speaker 1: Now this causes a rift, obviously, especially after finding out
Speaker 1: everyone's magic in the castle has been restricted. So with that,
Speaker 1: she leaves, ignoring the eclipse and I furious Miranda that
Speaker 1: apparently doesn't care at all about Aaron. Knowing the spell
Speaker 1: is impossible without both twins, Miranda sends out Karsh and
Speaker 1: Alena to bring them back, but there's not much time left.
Speaker 1: Cameron is a rightfully torn Save Coventry and kill what
Speaker 1: might be your dad. Ooh, that is a very big ask,
Speaker 1: but not quite as big as asking out your ex's twins.
Speaker 1: Sister explained to her, with some very tough love, that
Speaker 1: this is what a princess must do, and Cameron agrees.
Speaker 2: She hurries to persuade her sister.
Speaker 1: To come along, an effort that stumbles at first but
Speaker 1: ultimately leads to both of them agreeing to return to Coventry.
Speaker 1: Marcus and Beth fly out of a portal which they
Speaker 1: pretend they don't see, and they decide to put the
Speaker 1: portal in bright daylight right on the college campus, right,
Speaker 1: and so that was like, that's weird, but they both
Speaker 1: pretend they don't see it. There's just so many unanswered It.
Speaker 3: Seem like they're flirting now a little bit, right are
Speaker 3: they and Marcus are flirting?
Speaker 1: Like is death on the Marcus well BMD train? Like
Speaker 1: what the hell is happening now I don't understand, and
Speaker 1: again is never wrapped up. They never go back to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well a quick flash which didn't answer questions, but
Speaker 3: it didn't answer questions, but they go back to it
Speaker 3: for hot a.
Speaker 1: Hot like barely a hots a lukewarm second. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: So now we're at the castle. Cameron continues to try
Speaker 1: and convince her sister that the spell must be completed,
Speaker 1: but with the eclipse just minutes away, Alex isn't sold.
Speaker 1: She asks for one last sign from her dad. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's already got one, so this seems a bit selfish,
Speaker 1: but what the hell? Then a magic book flies out
Speaker 1: of the bookcase and lands on a page for a
Speaker 1: freedom spell. It promises to release someone from the shadows,
Speaker 1: and weirdly, it's exactly like the vanquishing spell, with just
Speaker 1: one line different at the end, which, if you're writing
Speaker 1: magic spells.
Speaker 2: Seems like a stupid fucking way to write spell.
Speaker 1: It's like, this one kills you, this one keeps you alive,
Speaker 1: and the only thing that's different is one word like, that's.
Speaker 3: Not a good plan, iresponsible.
Speaker 2: Right, your magic spells better? People?
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. Geez. They could probably sneak this out
Speaker 1: during the eclipse without anybody knowing, though, so they could
Speaker 1: actually release their dad, and then the Guardian angels return
Speaker 1: and pull the sisters away.
Speaker 2: The eclipse is less than a minute away.
Speaker 1: Everyone gets into their places, with all the workers at
Speaker 1: the castle watching on, properly wearing sunglasses so they don't
Speaker 1: go blind.
Speaker 2: It's now time for the spell.
Speaker 1: The girls hold each other's hands and start to levitate.
Speaker 1: They start reciting the worlds with their Sabrina's favorite necklaces
Speaker 1: in the world growing and glowing and rising from their chest.
Speaker 1: They hot in the middle. They attach, and then it's
Speaker 1: time for that final line and everyone starts to wonder
Speaker 1: are they what are they gonna do? Are they gonna
Speaker 1: do the Freedom spell? And then Cameron completes the vanquishing spell.
Speaker 1: She didn't stray for Miranda. Alex is devastated as they
Speaker 1: break apart and a fireball takes flight from their necklaces
Speaker 1: because of course, necklaces equal fireballs. Everyone runs for cover
Speaker 1: as it wrecks the castle, trying to find the shadows.
Speaker 1: Alex runs to warn who she believes is her dad,
Speaker 1: and is being chased by the aggressive light ball. It
Speaker 1: follows her room to room, and Alex finds refuge in
Speaker 1: her dad's study. She begs Aaron for help, and she
Speaker 1: stumbles on another page of the magic book. It is
Speaker 1: a transfer spell. It will transfer her powers to somebody,
Speaker 1: but the two subjects need to be touching, and with
Speaker 1: the shadow back of the room, it whispers artemiss and
Speaker 1: grows a hand to touch her. They finally connect and
Speaker 1: the transfer is complete because the spell literally is just
Speaker 1: her saying I give you everything.
Speaker 2: That's the whole spell.
Speaker 1: Yes, fits doesn't seem like they should be messing up
Speaker 1: these spells when they're this simple.
Speaker 2: Throwing Alex to the other side of the room, Cameron
Speaker 2: rushes into the.
Speaker 1: Study, seconds too late because Alex didn't summon her dad.
Speaker 1: It was Pantos.
Speaker 2: Wompwomp.
Speaker 1: Alex was wrong all along. Pantos leaves to kill Aaron
Speaker 1: before the light does, but this does validate he's still alive,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of both right, even though she once
Speaker 1: again released the eternal darkness.
Speaker 2: So maybe she was half wrong, half right. Glasses half magic.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 1: And so they run off to then find their dad.
Speaker 1: They know he's at their house on the Earth dimension somehow,
Speaker 1: but Fantos beat them there and has already roughed up
Speaker 1: their mom and dad, And now he's making the maid's
Speaker 1: head shake back and forth rapidly, which is just weird,
Speaker 1: exposing that Air has been in her shadow the whole time.
Speaker 1: Now expose Tantos attacks his brother over and over. The
Speaker 1: girls eventually find the room, but it's too late. They've
Speaker 1: left for coventry through the upstairs closet, so they follow
Speaker 1: close behind, but Thantos has cast a spell and locked
Speaker 1: everyone out of castle. But it's that cutie butler, Dimitri,
Speaker 1: who pops up and leads them downstairs. He says Tantos
Speaker 1: is on his way to North Tower with Aaron, and
Speaker 1: he's able to help because Miranda gave everyone their magic
Speaker 1: powers back, which is a good news in the girl's eyes.
Speaker 1: So okay, maybe maybe Miranda isn't such a jerk after all.
Speaker 1: Now at the top of the North Tower, Thantos continues
Speaker 1: to beat the shit out of his brother, using all
Speaker 1: of Alex's powers. When the girls do catch up, Fantos
Speaker 1: knocks out the Guardian angels and sends Cameron into the sky. Luckily,
Speaker 1: Miranda's close by to save the girls. Because now both
Speaker 1: the twins are hanging out at one side and the
Speaker 1: Guardians are just holding on to a gargoyle for dear life. Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's good versus evil, with each trying to control
Speaker 1: the twins. As the eclipse hits its final form, Aaron
Speaker 1: is screaming in pain, so Thantos turns his attention to
Speaker 1: his brother and tries to finish him off for good,
Speaker 1: but in a last titch effort, Miranda drapes herself on
Speaker 1: him and the girls hold hands. They grab out of
Speaker 1: their dad and now they're all connected, transferring all their
Speaker 1: powers to him. With that same here you have it,
Speaker 1: And with that, a blast throws Thantos into the wall
Speaker 1: and Aaron appears as a real human being, though a
Speaker 1: different one from the last time we saw him because
Speaker 1: he's a different actor. He looks so much like Fantos
Speaker 1: it would make a very confusing family holiday. The twins
Speaker 1: hug their dad, finally reunited, he thanks them and hugs Miranda.
Speaker 1: I'm still not one hundred percent sure why he was
Speaker 1: always trying to keep him suppressed in the shadows and
Speaker 1: sabotage the girls for the whole movie, So why, like,
Speaker 1: why didn't she just release him. If that's all it took,
Speaker 1: was that one spell? Why wouldn't that be the first.
Speaker 4: Thing that happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then she didn't call anybody dad.
Speaker 2: Okay anyway, right when things.
Speaker 1: Were looking like its gonna be a happy ending, Thantos
Speaker 1: gives it one last shot, lunging for the couple, but
Speaker 1: just in time, Aaron blasts him, pushing him down the
Speaker 1: very deep well and leading the girls to put l's
Speaker 1: on their foreheads and say lose her. And now it dated?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was I was dated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was a.
Speaker 3: Clueless era.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was like that was mid nineties day. That
Speaker 1: was already dated in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, crazy, we're in two thousand and seven, nobody
Speaker 3: was doing that.
Speaker 2: No, it's might as well. They've might as well have
Speaker 2: gone what.
Speaker 1: Like what? And now it's Karsha and Elena's wedding day.
Speaker 1: The girls watch on as part of the wedding, now
Speaker 1: full fledged princesses. They hand over the rings and we
Speaker 1: see Marcus and Death in the crowd. I guess they've
Speaker 1: accepted Coventry and their friends are some sort of magical royalty.
Speaker 1: Seems like a tough pill to swallow, but to teach
Speaker 1: his own. And also who the is dating Marcus?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no idea. There's It's not
Speaker 3: one of the twins, is it Beth? Is it the donkey?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm not really.
Speaker 1: There's a donkey. There's a donkey there, and it appears
Speaker 1: but the woman with the donkey is dating the donkey?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Does it? It seems like there's a
Speaker 1: woman there who was it was in some sort of
Speaker 1: what I have to assume sexual relationship with this donkey?
Speaker 1: I mean, why else would that be your plus one?
Speaker 3: Well, there was a storyline way early on in the
Speaker 3: movie about how one of the guardian angels accidentally turned
Speaker 3: the the one that she's marryed mom into a donkey.
Speaker 3: That's what it referenced.
Speaker 1: That's right, So it's supposed to be the mom, right,
Speaker 1: that's the village.
Speaker 3: Was that the was that the the housekeeper?
Speaker 2: I think? So, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was like I was still stuck on Marcus in Beth, going.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, what who is with who? Who's banging Marcus?
Speaker 1: I gotta know at this point, I gotta know, So, yes,
Speaker 1: anyway with that the Guardian angels their husband and wife.
Speaker 1: They awkwardly kissing applaud okay again, there's a donkey there.
Speaker 1: There is there's just a donkey there, and either way
Speaker 1: it is party time. The entire castle celebrates the married
Speaker 1: couple at the reception, as Alex and Cameron jokingly argue
Speaker 1: about who really.
Speaker 2: Saved the day.
Speaker 1: One thing they do agree on they both look fabulous.
Speaker 1: They're both gonna bang Marcus. We get one final go twitches,
Speaker 1: Go Twitches, and that's our movie.
Speaker 2: What a journey, Sabrina.
Speaker 1: Let's do some real reviews and I think you've got
Speaker 1: the five star right, so jump into it.
Speaker 3: What do you got from our friend who nahmad? Always
Speaker 3: great to see people that get a lot of encourage
Speaker 3: to go online, yep and write things that they're unwilling
Speaker 3: to put their name next to this one goes five stars.
Speaker 3: These girls are Christians in this movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha cool?
Speaker 2: Five stars? There you go, five stars, five stars.
Speaker 1: I've got the one star and this is from Turner
Speaker 1: p U and Turner p sums it up. Lusie twitches
Speaker 1: two more like twitches. Pooh, Okay, Star, I'm the star,
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna come to our favorite portion of
Speaker 1: the program, of course, Sabrina's favorite portion. I can take
Speaker 1: it or leave it because I'm so good at it,
Speaker 1: and that is the game that we play every week.
Speaker 3: This gen is not here, so I'm looking pretty good already.
Speaker 1: Okay, we got no gens today.
Speaker 3: I do so much better to do, all right, takes
Speaker 3: the heat off of it this one.
Speaker 1: So this is very weird because I'm going to read
Speaker 1: you exactly what I have. It says two or two
Speaker 1: two or t oo so to honor twitches two and
Speaker 1: it's usages of the word two instead of the number two.
Speaker 1: For absolutely no reason at all. We will get five
Speaker 1: different movie titles and we have to guess if they
Speaker 1: use the word two or the number two. Three out
Speaker 1: of five wins, two loses. Who are we playing with today?
Speaker 6: So it's Mikayla Producer.
Speaker 2: Mikayla is joining us.
Speaker 1: What do we have today, producer MICHAELA for our possibilities?
Speaker 6: Okay, so number one too fast, too furious?
Speaker 1: Two? Yeah, that was the number two, right, yes, correct,
Speaker 1: you answered that fast, Sabrina.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We don't mess with it. Well, I have only seen
Speaker 1: the first one, Okay, the first one when it was
Speaker 1: point break.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the second one?
Speaker 6: Legally blonde two?
Speaker 2: It's it's a two, isn't it. It's the number two number.
Speaker 2: It's the number two.
Speaker 1: Correct, all right, we're cheating. We're t O O for
Speaker 1: t O O.
Speaker 6: Okay, number three. Look who's talking.
Speaker 1: To that's because it's talking. Also, that's t O O.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 1: We already won.
Speaker 2: Okay, could we could we go? Could we go?
Speaker 1: Five for five?
Speaker 2: Though? What's number four?
Speaker 6: Pitch perfect two?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tuo. Don't even get me started.
Speaker 1: That's the number two two. This is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest movies of all time, So don't get me started.
Speaker 6: Okay, four for four right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Okay, number five teen Wolf two?
Speaker 2: Oh that was too Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think I've ever saw that one.
Speaker 6: Okay, well you're correct.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Jason takes over the role of the teen
Speaker 1: Wolf from Michael. Thank you, producer, MICHAELA we just send
Speaker 1: we just do better when producer Jensen is not with us.
Speaker 2: That was that really was the easiest game in the world.
Speaker 2: So thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Can we do some Sabrina.
Speaker 3: Sees yes, Actually there was a bigger change, like although
Speaker 3: there was so many questions. There was actually quite a
Speaker 3: bit of things that were worth noting on this movie.
Speaker 3: Did you write from the start, now, this is kind
Speaker 3: of weird. Right from the start their credits were off hot.
Speaker 3: Did you notice that?
Speaker 2: You know why?
Speaker 1: I literally positive and thought about it. I know exactly why.
Speaker 1: That is why, because what they did was so they're
Speaker 1: kind of credited the same. One of them is first
Speaker 1: but lower, the other one is second but higher, so
Speaker 1: it's like they're both at the same because if you
Speaker 1: put them at the same level, then whoever's first is
Speaker 1: first and the other one is second. Okay, this way
Speaker 1: you could read it either the top one is first
Speaker 1: and the bottom one a second, yes, or the first
Speaker 1: one is first.
Speaker 2: I thought the same thing. But that's why they did it.
Speaker 3: And I imagine with the two of them. That was
Speaker 3: the Tellies a thing with us for the Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 3: We went alphabetically, so it was by our last names,
Speaker 3: like bry Loan, Brian Williams. That's how we just did
Speaker 3: it because it was alphabetically, and that's how it's done
Speaker 3: on friends. And I think that's the reason why I.
Speaker 1: Wanted to do that. Okay, Well, there's also a reason
Speaker 1: why it wasn't. We just found out in one of
Speaker 1: our newer interview was one of the reasons why it
Speaker 1: wasn't a J and Ali. It was always Ali and Aj. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like they pick, they pick which way it's
Speaker 2: gonna get.
Speaker 3: Can you just keep it consistent? It's never a question.
Speaker 1: You just nobody ever says Tamara and Tia Mori. They
Speaker 1: say Tia and Tamara Ala. So it's like that's the
Speaker 1: way it's always been. It's Tia and Tamara.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you wonder if Ta is older hmm, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm older by a minute or whatever it is being
Speaker 1: a twin, Yeah, maybe that's maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I noticed that right from the start. I mean
Speaker 3: that's like not even ten seconds into the fishing play, right,
Speaker 3: and then I saw I don't know if you noticed
Speaker 3: in the room. Now we only really see their room,
Speaker 3: not very often, not this angle at least, right, but
Speaker 3: when she's in the bed and the shadow almost comes
Speaker 3: and you mentioned it actually when we were talking about
Speaker 3: it her cot but if you look past it under
Speaker 3: the bed a stunning like California King Giant bed. I
Speaker 3: was just like, wow, I mean, does it look like
Speaker 3: these people are scraping on much of a budget. They've
Speaker 3: seemed to have everything they want. They couldn't have given
Speaker 3: her a nicer bet or they live in a mansion room.
Speaker 1: Siblings And the only thing I thought about that, because
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing was maybe she wanted to
Speaker 1: be closer. They wanted them both in the same room
Speaker 1: with the closet to coventry. But then they keep throwing
Speaker 1: portals all over the place, so yeah, they don't need that.
Speaker 1: So why the hell doesn't she get her other? By
Speaker 1: the way, I just googled, and I'm wrong, Tamara is
Speaker 1: actually older by two minutes. Oh so that is not why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the shortening in the like Ali
Speaker 3: and a J.
Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense, the syllables.
Speaker 3: One and then two. Okay, I did have an issue
Speaker 3: and now they seemed like nice people. But the parents
Speaker 3: that are in the real world seem to really give
Speaker 3: a lot of space all the time, Like, oh, the
Speaker 3: first one is when the Guardian Angels are are there
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, we'll just give you guys some space.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, what are you talking about? What's going on?
Speaker 1: You guys?
Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about magic and all kinds of
Speaker 3: things that could kill you. We're gonna go ahead and
Speaker 3: stick around just to see what these kinds of like think,
Speaker 3: you know, plans, you've got you do that over and
Speaker 3: over again. Yeah, And then when they get to the
Speaker 3: next world and it just is like literally a scene
Speaker 3: away and the mom sends the Guardian angels to get her,
Speaker 3: but then doesn't seem to really have much of a plan.
Speaker 3: We find it out a little bit. But when they're
Speaker 3: in that grap like that garden area outside walking and uh,
Speaker 3: I think it's Cameron that's only there. Alex didn't come.
Speaker 3: She didn't seem like she had a plan, because if
Speaker 3: it was the twins need to be here, they're the
Speaker 3: only ones, then it would have been like there's no option,
Speaker 3: Alex must come, like you know, But it was like
Speaker 3: they just like had them come without really much of
Speaker 3: a plan, which fathers like to see you. Yes. Then
Speaker 3: I noticed because we had spoken about the premiere of
Speaker 3: Wizards of Waverley Place, and we're getting a chance to
Speaker 3: do a real big interview. I won't spoil it yet
Speaker 3: because I know we wait for a little bit longer.
Speaker 3: But that being said, when it was Waverley University. I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, I love Cergy energy to the max
Speaker 3: because they're talking. The second one I loved that. I
Speaker 3: thought that was so great. The Father's crest. They kept
Speaker 3: calling it the crest when it was really just like
Speaker 3: a moon symbol. Did that bother you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's also was like three in a row.
Speaker 1: That's not a it's like, what's your crest?
Speaker 3: It wasn't really like a no, it didn't seem like much.
Speaker 3: It was just kind of like could we have done
Speaker 3: did we ever get an answer of what those First
Speaker 3: it was a gold one, then I think it is
Speaker 3: a purple ball, like they.
Speaker 2: Were just walking around balls.
Speaker 1: Or purple balls. And then he like threw his ball,
Speaker 1: that golden ball and the his apron like because he
Speaker 1: didn't want to be seen with it into the the.
Speaker 2: Like hedge right, And it's like, hey, why are you
Speaker 2: just walking.
Speaker 1: Around with the golden ball? What's the golden ball? And
Speaker 1: why are you ditching said golden ball?
Speaker 3: Yes? Is it? Was it important? Is it a secret?
Speaker 3: But like several of you are walking around with them, like.
Speaker 1: I don't know what do he got golden balls for?
Speaker 3: And then two more I got really confused throughout the
Speaker 3: movie because a lot of times they called their let's
Speaker 3: call it magic dad, right, Aaron, But and they called
Speaker 3: the Magic mom Miranda. But then they were switching to
Speaker 3: call it mom and dad, like that whole dynamic of
Speaker 3: what they're calling. And I get I'm sure, like his
Speaker 3: heart heart, it would mean it would be hard to
Speaker 3: figure out what it is that your name's are.
Speaker 1: But she did.
Speaker 3: Alex absolutely shut down one of.
Speaker 2: The earth Dad no, thank you, Yeah, no, not interested.
Speaker 3: But at the same time they were. It was kind
Speaker 3: of confusing going back and forth how how much they
Speaker 3: were switching. The last one was the Cheetah Girls had
Speaker 3: a song in this movie?
Speaker 1: Which song? Where was this?
Speaker 3: This is what's so funny. I'm like, hey, wait, that's
Speaker 3: a song Wait which from bu wasn't it? It's called
Speaker 3: bring It On? And it's right after it's when Alex
Speaker 3: right before she meets Marcus, and it's the her entering
Speaker 3: into college. It's her first day of college, and it's like,
Speaker 3: so bring it on.
Speaker 1: But that's what Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm literally watching it and I was like.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm singing that's me.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's so cool. And I had no idea how message.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh yeah, I do kind of think I
Speaker 3: remember that happening.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so you were in this film.
Speaker 3: So they were not really I mean the move the
Speaker 3: song song was but yes, and it made sense.
Speaker 6: It's right.
Speaker 3: It was right when that album that was our only
Speaker 3: album that came out that wasn't a soundtrack. It was
Speaker 3: tcg our own set, our own album, not a soundtrack,
Speaker 3: and this was two thousand and seven, was right when
Speaker 3: we were about.
Speaker 1: To there you go release, Bring it on, bring it
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: Now it's a time that we rate the film we
Speaker 1: just saw, as we do every week. It's gonna be tough,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna make it easier because we're gonna do
Speaker 1: one to ten okay, and we're gonna make one the
Speaker 1: low one okay, and ten the high ones. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna make it easy on ourselves. Now, the question is
Speaker 1: what should we do? Should we do one out of
Speaker 1: ten non rhyming twin names, one out of ten snitch beths,
Speaker 1: one out of ten dates with identical twins that you
Speaker 1: pretend isn't problematic, one out of ten confusing switchero scenarios.
Speaker 2: Guys, you won't call Dad.
Speaker 1: One out of ten maids just trying to make a
Speaker 1: living hop star Marissa Min posters.
Speaker 3: Never still understood that one one.
Speaker 1: Out of ten Snickerdodle screams, one of ten unanswered questions,
Speaker 1: one out of ten wedding donkeys, or I'm gonna add
Speaker 1: one out of ten Secret Sabrina songs? Which one would
Speaker 1: you like to do?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you pick this week.
Speaker 3: Which we're gonna go. I love that you want to
Speaker 3: do Secret Sabrina songs, but I'm still gonna go ahead,
Speaker 3: and my top choice would be wedding Donkeys.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think I have forsy.
Speaker 3: There was some weird thing going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think I have to go first
Speaker 1: this time, don't I? Yes, okay, this is this was?
Speaker 1: This was Okay.
Speaker 2: I love them.
Speaker 1: They're great. Yes, they can command the screen. They are
Speaker 1: built for Disney Channel. They were perfect. They owned it,
Speaker 1: they owned it. They are they were once again great
Speaker 1: in this movie. So taking them completely out of the
Speaker 1: scenario because they're phenomenal and they're two of my favorites
Speaker 1: to watch. So get rid of the Twins entirely.
Speaker 2: This was not a great movie.
Speaker 1: The first one was better. The special effects were not special,
Speaker 1: especially for.
Speaker 2: A budget this big.
Speaker 1: Not they tied up no storylines, like nothing made any
Speaker 1: sense in this movie what they were doing.
Speaker 2: But the Twins save it a bit.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give this, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: being generous five point five wedding Donkeys. That's what I'm giving.
Speaker 1: It is a five to five wedding Donkeys, Sabrina, What
Speaker 1: do you got? You know?
Speaker 3: I because I really in my head and it's clear
Speaker 3: that I didn't one hundred percent remember the first one, right,
Speaker 3: But I what I did remember was liking it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think we did.
Speaker 3: I really do think I remember liking this movie. So
Speaker 3: I was really confused because I just felt like, again
Speaker 3: you said it, there was so many questions and holes
Speaker 3: and things that never meant anything. I don't Then I
Speaker 3: started kind of letting myself go, oh, well, maybe there
Speaker 3: was an idea at the time that they were going
Speaker 3: to do a third one. So that's why there's like,
Speaker 3: you know, like there wasn't every all the ties weren't tied.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it just it was too many
Speaker 3: of them to be able to like sit and enjoy
Speaker 3: because you were just like overthinking and trying to understand.
Speaker 3: The biggest hang up for me was there not being
Speaker 3: any distinguishing to where at least we as an audience
Speaker 3: could have told could think back and know what shadow
Speaker 3: was who right, That's the only one that I mean,
Speaker 3: that's the one that just really blew my mind that
Speaker 3: I hated about it because I need to know who
Speaker 3: which if this I'm okay with it being the uncle
Speaker 3: and then also being the dad, and that's why it's
Speaker 3: really hard to navigate, but I need, as a viewer,
Speaker 3: need to know because now I'm confused. Yeah, now I've got,
Speaker 3: you know, trust issues and all kinds of things that
Speaker 3: are just coming out of all of the woodwork. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to agree with you that it was not
Speaker 3: not a great movie. And again I agree with you
Speaker 3: as well. Like I said, I call them the twins.
Speaker 3: They are the most epic duo on the channel that
Speaker 3: that I really grew up with and love everything about them.
Speaker 3: I loved what they've both done as adults is too,
Speaker 3: Like I will follow anything that they're doing.
Speaker 2: So foreign entertainers, Yep.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so it was hard. I'm going to give them
Speaker 3: a six wedding donkeys, Okay, this one a little because
Speaker 3: I think for me again, I loved the concept of
Speaker 3: the first one and I just was, you know, so anyway,
Speaker 3: it's six wedding miscuous, six promiscuous wedding.
Speaker 2: I would like to throw anyzier crazier.
Speaker 1: I need to know who's banging Mark as well them,
Speaker 1: because they just they didn't wrap it up. Anyway, Thank
Speaker 1: you everybody for joining us. Our next movie is going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of milestone because we're going
Speaker 1: to be entering our Zendaya era with twenty fourteen's sci
Speaker 1: fi comedy Zapid.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding. It's zapped, is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's the introduction for one of Hollywood's biggest stars in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five for Magical Rewind and you can
Speaker 1: watch Zapped on Disney Plus ahead of our episode.
Speaker 2: Consider it homework for you if you want. And we're so.
Speaker 1: Excited to announce that Zendaya herself has never even heard
Speaker 1: of our podcast, so there's no chance in hell she's
Speaker 1: coming on just for the record.
Speaker 3: But I had had your for a second, there, didn't
Speaker 3: I I was like, wait, did I miss.
Speaker 1: Email?
Speaker 3: Absolutely die.
Speaker 1: She has no idea about us our podcast, So we'll
Speaker 1: never get her in the thousand years, but we can
Speaker 1: talk about her. So go watch the movie before you
Speaker 1: hear us next time, because we are going to be
Speaker 1: talking about Zapid from twenty fourteen. And as Sabrina said,
Speaker 1: we do have a very special guest coming up, and
Speaker 1: he will be this one's for real. Yes, talking to
Speaker 1: Wizards of Waverley play season one and season two and
Speaker 1: the original and the remake and everything else on the channel.
Speaker 1: David Henry is going to be joining us over on
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Speaker 1: Talk about Disney Royalty. We are very excited to have
Speaker 1: that conversation. Here's a bit of it.
Speaker 5: We did a pilot for a totally different show called
Speaker 5: The Amazing O'Malley's that didn't test very well. Turns out
Speaker 5: you should you should lead with girls. Good move in hindsight,
Speaker 5: and then it all changed and then and then Selena
Speaker 5: was number one. I was right behind her. But in
Speaker 5: that dynamic I think helped click like a perfect dynamic
Speaker 5: for us.
Speaker 1: Go check it out, because man, it was cool. We
Speaker 1: were so lucky to get a half hour with him
Speaker 1: because he is in the midst of just interview after interview,
Speaker 1: after interview. So this was really, really.
Speaker 3: And we're so lucky we got a sneak peek at.
Speaker 2: This season two did Yeah, so kind of a coop
Speaker 2: for us. As I would say, kind of a coop.
Speaker 1: So thanks everybody so much and we will see you
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 4: Bye. Kay,