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Speaker 2: You have a new you have a new you have
Speaker 2: a new Uh we'll get to in a second. But
Speaker 2: you have a new defensive scheme you want to implement. YEA,
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Speaker 4: You know, we got tomorrow.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a bright spot.
Speaker 6: I hope, so, Kurt, I hope.
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Speaker 2: We won't be here tomorrow because there's a football game
Speaker 2: tomorrow night and and.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll be here Friday. Are we the only
Speaker 4: show Friday? No, everybody's back full roster.
Speaker 7: Oh you know they gonna be wanting to be on
Speaker 7: and give their opinion.
Speaker 4: Well you have an opinion?
Speaker 8: Oh, yes I do, and I've been having this opinion
Speaker 8: for quite a while.
Speaker 2: You have a new, a new defensive scheme you want
Speaker 2: to implement. Yes, what what is that scheme?
Speaker 6: It's called it three four mm hmm.
Speaker 8: Jess's gonna shoot it down because we don't have a
Speaker 8: greasy hog in the middle of the nose.
Speaker 5: Go, you're about to see what you're about to go
Speaker 5: up against tomorrow night. What you would need for his defense?
Speaker 2: Yes, the reason fick greasy five.
Speaker 6: What girl got three with the eight and a half inches?
Speaker 7: Hey? In sacks?
Speaker 6: That what Jerry was talking about?
Speaker 4: Three sacks, three sacks, three middle Huh?
Speaker 6: Explain the three four? Elaborate The three four.
Speaker 8: Is a noseguard, a guy out of the center, guys
Speaker 8: over the tackles. You have stand up outside linebackers strong
Speaker 8: and weak, depending on where the tight end at. And
Speaker 8: you have two middle linebackers or two linebackers inside linebackers,
Speaker 8: one over each guard. Uh. The reason I say that
Speaker 8: is because now you can truly free Parsons up. Because
Speaker 8: I've been saying in it since the day he walked
Speaker 8: over there and called himself a defensive vent.
Speaker 6: Now he's getting.
Speaker 8: To the point where he want to put a hand
Speaker 8: on the ground. I laugh every time I see that.
Speaker 8: Whether it's a pass rush or it's a run. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna kill you, just taking away your biggest advantage.
Speaker 6: When you stand up.
Speaker 8: And you got balance in your feet, I don't know
Speaker 8: where you're going, and you are one of the.
Speaker 6: Fastest guys off the ball in the league.
Speaker 8: But you begin down there like a hole and you
Speaker 8: want a waller, I'm gonna beat you to death. Put
Speaker 8: that ball in three four U lets go, But Jesse
Speaker 8: tell him why the three four may not work?
Speaker 6: They I may not.
Speaker 4: You gotta be big in the three right, the three
Speaker 4: guys got it.
Speaker 5: You got a third leg and you got to you
Speaker 5: got to be Yeah, you can line I mean you can.
Speaker 5: You can line up Tank on one side, Mike on
Speaker 5: the other side.
Speaker 10: You can.
Speaker 6: That part is fine.
Speaker 5: And you can line back up there in the two
Speaker 5: linebackers you can have over shown and and Kendrick.
Speaker 6: That's fine.
Speaker 4: You just don't have that coffee, can you.
Speaker 6: You ain't work in the middle.
Speaker 7: You don't.
Speaker 6: You won't have the girth, you don't have the folders.
Speaker 6: Can you don't have that?
Speaker 9: You don't have it now, So what's the difference.
Speaker 7: And that's what I was saying.
Speaker 6: Just get a do good guy. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That ain't gonna work either, because all they gonna really
Speaker 5: do now is now that you because because what happens
Speaker 5: now is I gotta I got a guy over the center, right,
Speaker 5: and then I have my my other two guys are over.
Speaker 7: My guards right, that's right off the ball linebackers.
Speaker 5: So now all I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take
Speaker 5: the center I'm gonna get him upfield.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have the nose guard go one way or
Speaker 6: the other.
Speaker 5: Right then I'm a combo from my my guard in
Speaker 5: my tackle. We gonna combo this dude, and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: work my way up and then whatever if I got
Speaker 5: a tight end or full back or whatever, he gonna come.
Speaker 6: Through there clear everything else, and it's gonna be holes
Speaker 6: this big Denzel.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you, Denzel Dason and the other kid Hoskins
Speaker 8: on the practice squad.
Speaker 5: See, this is where we've come. This is this is
Speaker 5: where we've come to.
Speaker 4: Three games in, we're pulling them up from the practice.
Speaker 6: We're stretching in hostel.
Speaker 7: Guys, the practice squad three fifteen, that's you.
Speaker 6: That's one of you.
Speaker 4: Changing your scheme three games into the season.
Speaker 6: It's not gonna work.
Speaker 9: Could I mean, I'm trying, guys.
Speaker 11: Could you just twitch gears like that in the mid
Speaker 11: mid season if you had the guys, you.
Speaker 8: Got okay, you have ten days off, you got this game.
Speaker 6: You got ten days off. You don't have ten.
Speaker 5: Days off, you you you got the weekend. You're back
Speaker 5: to back to work next week Monday.
Speaker 8: When after they you seen them practice I met what
Speaker 8: I said.
Speaker 7: They got.
Speaker 6: I met what I said. I mean, you're full of gilt.
Speaker 7: They going in past.
Speaker 6: One day point take it. I'll take it.
Speaker 7: So And I know it's a fantasy, but you have Parsons.
Speaker 8: How do you free him up? What is the best
Speaker 8: way to free him up? If I say put him
Speaker 8: at Mike backer, If I say put him at Will backer,
Speaker 8: off the ball and all of that, everybody gonna blow
Speaker 8: a gasket.
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to get him free.
Speaker 8: Because we had no tackle for losses this past game.
Speaker 6: We had no sacks this past game.
Speaker 8: We had maybe two quarterback hits this.
Speaker 6: Oh we had one.
Speaker 5: Well, he ran him out of bottle. That wasn't really
Speaker 5: the sack when you kind out of the sack. I
Speaker 5: mean statistically it was a sack, but it wasn't like
Speaker 5: they got him in the backfield. He ran and didn't
Speaker 5: get back to a line of scrimm.
Speaker 6: Pull up that paper man.
Speaker 8: We if Parsons, if part since is least a threat
Speaker 8: in every game where he's been least a threat, our
Speaker 8: defense is fared.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 7: Now I'm not saying great, but they're fared.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 7: But when he is a non none.
Speaker 6: Factor, we look terrible. How they said in the movie terrible.
Speaker 6: Next time, you know, we need to hear him again.
Speaker 7: Yeah he good, yeah, good, terrible, good, terrible.
Speaker 6: But that's the thing.
Speaker 5: If you move Michael off the ball, you still run
Speaker 5: into the same problem. Is that now he still isn't
Speaker 5: free to go hunt because he's now having to defeat
Speaker 5: his own man who got blocked into his way.
Speaker 8: But at the outside linebacker, you're dealing with tight ends
Speaker 8: now that yes, they can turn the protection, but you're
Speaker 8: still basically getting a chance to deal with the one
Speaker 8: guy with the Do you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: When I line up with.
Speaker 5: Right, but when you line when he's on the end,
Speaker 5: what does that do?
Speaker 6: I just run the ball off the middle.
Speaker 12: Now I don't care. I gotta figure up him, free
Speaker 12: him up to do what to make plays. Ain't no
Speaker 12: plays to be made. Teams are running the football down
Speaker 12: your throat. Ain't no plays to be made.
Speaker 9: There's not enough.
Speaker 11: He's not he said it the other day, it's not
Speaker 11: getting pressure because he's not getting opportunities because they can't
Speaker 11: stop the run.
Speaker 5: Thirty one thirty one passing attempts in the last two
Speaker 5: games we play, we play in the ultimate pass, first past,
Speaker 5: second past third football league, and two quarterbacks in this
Speaker 5: league in the year of twenty twenty four have won games.
Speaker 6: Now you can say twenty five to twenty eight that game.
Speaker 5: Was a blowout, have one games via blowout, and have
Speaker 5: not thrown the ball board in sixteen.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, and this is just this
Speaker 6: is I know this is.
Speaker 2: Stupid, but again, per game, you know, I'm looking for
Speaker 2: Santa Claus here.
Speaker 4: He's your best player on the defensive side of the ball, right, correct,
Speaker 4: he is a linebacker.
Speaker 2: But we've all said any staff, he's not rushing the
Speaker 2: pastors owasis snap right now. You're not losing by throwing
Speaker 2: the ball. You're losing by the run game. Would you
Speaker 2: put him in the middle and just let him at
Speaker 2: least your best players in the mix and can make
Speaker 2: a tackle and can maybe stop the run a little bit.
Speaker 5: We need to sit down and watch film together because
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna show you over and over and over
Speaker 5: again how Kendricks how overshown and if you put Micah.
Speaker 4: There, then you're gonna get washed out.
Speaker 6: They will get washed because of the front.
Speaker 5: More because he's just better than those guys.
Speaker 6: But over time fixing the issue.
Speaker 5: It's not he Here's what Michael stuck between a rock
Speaker 5: and the hard place.
Speaker 6: Here's where he's having a can get through here. Here's
Speaker 6: here's what Michael stuck between the rock and the hard place.
Speaker 2: Is.
Speaker 5: We put him in this caliber with Miles, Max Crosby.
Speaker 8: You're speaking French English English.
Speaker 6: We ain't which we will, but we put him in
Speaker 6: this category.
Speaker 5: Micah is put in this category of Miles Garrett, Max Crosby,
Speaker 5: t J. Watt, uh Nick, and Joey Bosa. Right, here's
Speaker 5: the problem. He's two hundred and forty pounds. That's that
Speaker 5: that those guys fit the bill to play those positions.
Speaker 7: The seventy to.
Speaker 6: I'm sure that, I'm sure. I'm sure they're probably around
Speaker 6: two seventy.
Speaker 7: T J.
Speaker 5: Watt, t J Watt, Max, Kris, Miles, Miles, he's probably eighty.
Speaker 5: But those guys are I'm talking about twenty five, thirty
Speaker 5: something even forty five pounds heavier than Michael.
Speaker 6: So what you so he's two So that's about twelve pounds, right, that's.
Speaker 4: Twelve pounds makes that big of a difference, Yes, you do.
Speaker 6: And the way your frame is.
Speaker 5: Fifty five okay, fifteen pounds, who else, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 8: That's to eighty seventy four seventy two, that's I.
Speaker 6: Know him, twenty five pounds.
Speaker 4: You're like, I push, I've pushed that.
Speaker 5: I know how in those in those places, it matters,
Speaker 5: It matters a bunch. And that's the problem is he's
Speaker 5: too forty. You just don't have He doesn't have the
Speaker 5: girth to just play defensive end, but he doesn't have
Speaker 5: anything around him that will allow him to be successful
Speaker 5: at linebacker when you don't have any When when I
Speaker 5: watched this Giants film, I'm gonna give your chance. When
Speaker 5: I watched this Giants film, they look when I watch
Speaker 5: this Giants film, Okay, I watched number ninety seven. Dexter
Speaker 5: was in the number ninety seven. Dexter Lawrens that second
Speaker 5: the second.
Speaker 4: Three Fody five, that's one hundred pounds. Three fody five
Speaker 4: is a big boy.
Speaker 5: And I watched Dexter Lawrence on double teams double teams one.
Speaker 6: Two other dudes who are.
Speaker 5: Probably a combined six hundred, six hundred and forty fifty
Speaker 5: pounds not move him. You know what that means? The
Speaker 5: guy standing behind him free they get the free flow. Okay, God,
Speaker 5: when he has one on one coverage.
Speaker 6: He moves mountains guys behind him free.
Speaker 5: So you can stick Michael back that all you want.
Speaker 5: But the guys in front of him is gonna make
Speaker 5: his He's gonna have to defeat his own old man
Speaker 5: and the and the offensive center or tackle the guard
Speaker 5: whoever coming at him. He's it's not his fault because
Speaker 5: they ill prepared and ill built this roster to have
Speaker 5: pieces around perfect.
Speaker 6: That got it was.
Speaker 8: The roster was perfect because the coach that designed this roster,
Speaker 8: they all remember last year, jest, stay.
Speaker 6: With me here, different coach. That's what I'm saying. The
Speaker 6: roster was perfect.
Speaker 8: All we did was stunning and blitz stunning and blitz stunning.
Speaker 7: So you he was always on the move.
Speaker 8: Double T S E T s uh tackle tackle end down, tackle,
Speaker 8: end down, line back around.
Speaker 6: It was always moved.
Speaker 4: What is the T and the E T. Shout out
Speaker 4: to Jerry Madaline.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, you looked at the video. Okay, thank you
Speaker 8: to look here. This is when you have a tackle
Speaker 8: in a guard. Okay, on the guard is gonna be
Speaker 8: a tackle. On the tackle is gonna be an end.
Speaker 8: This end is crashing down, hitting his guard, and the
Speaker 8: tackle is looping around, or vice versa. I'm hitting the
Speaker 8: tackle as a tackle. I'm hitting the tackle as a tackle,
Speaker 8: and the end is doing These guys are always moving around,
Speaker 8: asking the guard and the tackle to work in unison, to.
Speaker 6: Keep up withness speed. Is that called a stunt? That's
Speaker 6: a stunt. So now, you my boy, you my boy.
Speaker 7: But even if I go to a three four, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna continue.
Speaker 6: To do that.
Speaker 9: Why aren't they doing it now?
Speaker 8: Because gym don't want to do it, and everybody thinks,
Speaker 8: and every except you.
Speaker 6: Now, Jess, you agreeing with me.
Speaker 8: Now, he's not and never will be a defensive end.
Speaker 8: He's not and never will be. And next year he
Speaker 8: probably way two thirty five. About the end of the year,
Speaker 8: he'll wear two thirty five. And every tackle in the league,
Speaker 8: even a D minus tackle, is gonna be like, I
Speaker 8: got you, all right.
Speaker 4: Let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 8: Good stuff, man, good to tell you that three four boy,
Speaker 8: Just stop moving around.
Speaker 7: Yes, we'll get you a fat man in grab grass.
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Speaker 4: Oh all right, we'll talk about.
Speaker 2: Specific players in a minute, but this is the first
Speaker 2: time ever the team has played a road Thursday night
Speaker 2: game after a Sunday game.
Speaker 4: Usually when they do that, it's Thanksgiving. When they play
Speaker 4: on Thursday and then they go Thursday.
Speaker 6: Do you think the league knew something? It feels like
Speaker 6: you're right.
Speaker 2: It feels like, yeah, so, I guess it could be
Speaker 2: a good thing and a bad thing. It's a good
Speaker 2: thing that you get a little bit of a break
Speaker 2: to try to correct this thing after you go visit
Speaker 2: the drug store at Albertson's, right, or make.
Speaker 6: Some culture change. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, finish finishes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: They gonna win this week, They're gonna write the ship.
Speaker 4: But what is this gonna cause problems?
Speaker 2: Because when you get in such a rhythm with you
Speaker 2: know it's Thanksgiving, you know what's coming. The staff is
Speaker 2: used to it, the players are used to it, your
Speaker 2: schedule is used to it, and it's just you know,
Speaker 2: this is the first time you've ever had to prepare.
Speaker 2: It's almost like going over to London, right, like that
Speaker 2: was something totally new and can throw wrenches and everything.
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be an issue because it changes up
Speaker 2: your sleep, schedule, changes up how you do that? Like
Speaker 2: today's Wednesday, right, like they had Monday Tuesday and now
Speaker 2: they're traveling today.
Speaker 4: Is this gonna be a big deal for him? Especially
Speaker 4: on the road?
Speaker 8: Me as an ex player, when we have performed like
Speaker 8: that and it's been consecutively, I couldn't wait till the
Speaker 8: next game registered because I won't gonna sleep.
Speaker 6: No way, I wasn't.
Speaker 8: I wasn't because I'm like man, because the first thing
Speaker 8: they used to do back when I played, we were
Speaker 8: the problem. The offensive line was the problem, so we
Speaker 8: weren't sleeping well, so the offensive line was the problem.
Speaker 8: So I'll be like, man, let's hurry up and play.
Speaker 8: Just may have a different view, No.
Speaker 6: I think it's the same things.
Speaker 5: When you play that bad, you're you're chopping at the
Speaker 5: bitch to get back out there to kind of put
Speaker 5: some good tape on there. On the front end, it's right,
Speaker 5: it's it's Sunday, and I got four days later, I'm
Speaker 5: playing again.
Speaker 6: That part.
Speaker 5: You gotta try to muster up whatever you got left
Speaker 5: in the tank. You like, you would like to win,
Speaker 5: because preparing for a short week after a win just
Speaker 5: feels better. I don't know, it's a mental type thing,
Speaker 5: and your body feels better. But when they've played the
Speaker 5: way they played it, now everybody start to do this
Speaker 5: a little bit. You're trying to wait, you're trying to
Speaker 5: get back to that next game. On the backside, though,
Speaker 5: the many by right, so you get a chance from
Speaker 5: you get it through ten ten days off, yeah said
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 6: Three words, three letters.
Speaker 5: I mean, but you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday kind of
Speaker 5: to rejuvenate and then get back to the regular schedule
Speaker 5: program and.
Speaker 4: All weeks though to play.
Speaker 2: You know, think about it. Sunday, you just had the
Speaker 2: biggest running back in.
Speaker 4: The league run the ball twenty.
Speaker 2: Five times right down your defensive throat and probably beat
Speaker 2: the hell. You know how sore those guys probably are
Speaker 2: when you get out on the field Thursday.
Speaker 4: That probably just goes away.
Speaker 2: Though, right, the adrenaline and the soreness, and that's not
Speaker 2: gonna be a factor.
Speaker 6: But the slow start that you normally have.
Speaker 8: You trying to get rid of that quick telling you man,
Speaker 8: you can't start offense.
Speaker 2: Coach McCarthy, I don't care what yes, he says, No, huddle,
Speaker 2: hurry up offense the first two series of the game.
Speaker 4: That's my pitch.
Speaker 2: Nate's got his three forward coach zim three four Nates
Speaker 2: behalf Coach McCarthy, hurry up offense to what's your request?
Speaker 6: Were good over here? We don't have requests. That's your
Speaker 6: sign years, that's your.
Speaker 5: We have solutions, not let they don't have any solutions.
Speaker 6: We have solutions. They may not be logic, but they are. Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got zero logic in fact clause real, y'all
Speaker 5: got zero logic.
Speaker 6: All vibes, I got all vibes over there.
Speaker 7: It's just five hours.
Speaker 6: Let's do things out the wall and.
Speaker 8: See what size the players.
Speaker 6: That's good, that's good right there.
Speaker 4: New York Blitzer is usually your boy.
Speaker 6: Know all about the big black man. He knew he
Speaker 6: was the old part with those guys.
Speaker 4: Just disappointed, wasn't on the feet person?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: New York Blitz is a lot fifth most in the
Speaker 2: league at thirty four point two thirteen sacks the last
Speaker 2: two games. That has traditionally been pretty good against blitz
Speaker 2: pickup and blitz completion percentage.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what it is this year, but what
Speaker 4: what can your O line do? Then we go to
Speaker 4: the next topic against the team that that that blitzes
Speaker 4: that much. Because you were talking about.
Speaker 8: Time where they wait, this got me that walked to
Speaker 8: the line. It was a probably a third and six
Speaker 8: or something like that. He walked to the line. They
Speaker 8: gave him a funky look where they took the backer
Speaker 8: and put him all the way outside the right tackle alright.
Speaker 8: Even with the right tackle, they had each guy covered
Speaker 8: and one guy on the opposite. They had two guys
Speaker 8: the gardens garden attack in the center cover or in
Speaker 8: the gaps, but they'd have rocked the guy right inside
Speaker 8: of our left guard, and they put a guy right
Speaker 8: right outside of our left tackle. The left tackle pointed in,
Speaker 8: let's go inside because that point right at that guy
Speaker 8: over the tackle. So let me everybody needed to come
Speaker 8: over across. From that point on, everybody was covered. Leave
Speaker 8: that outside guy free. Left tackle kind of half came
Speaker 8: in and left right the left guard art came out
Speaker 8: and they got ran right up the middle. Mm hmm,
Speaker 8: I said to myself that pointed to the most dangerous man.
Speaker 8: That shit just took everything I said to myself. And
Speaker 8: then this statue bringing up that ain't gonna farewell because
Speaker 8: they're gonna give you so many looks. And when you
Speaker 8: start having all these looks, and if you don't have
Speaker 8: success early where you stay alert, you know, because one
Speaker 8: unit you don't want to get dull, and that's your
Speaker 8: offensive line, because the quarterback has to pay for that.
Speaker 8: He's the main recipient of all your mistakes, especially pastwise.
Speaker 8: So we're gonna have to be very sharp to make
Speaker 8: sure that don't happen. That got hit seven times. That's
Speaker 8: the ones they counted, not the times they pushed the
Speaker 8: running back into him, Not the times they pushed the
Speaker 8: tackles into him. They ain't counting then, agg actually where
Speaker 8: the defensive player hit him and he had to have
Speaker 8: That happened to him about seven eight times, But they
Speaker 8: just pushed people into him.
Speaker 7: You're talking about sore. I think Dak is the one
Speaker 7: that should be sore.
Speaker 4: Did you look anything up kirt.
Speaker 9: Under when blitzed?
Speaker 11: Compolition percentage forty four point eight two twenty eight yards
Speaker 11: yards per catch seven point nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, good stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, So Jesse, you you have if there's a
Speaker 2: ray of hope in this game, you have one really
Speaker 2: bright beaming light.
Speaker 4: That should give Cowboy fans hope this game.
Speaker 6: Right, Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 2: There's one on the on the giant side of the
Speaker 2: ball that gives the Cowboys a big beam of hope.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Daniel Jones. Is he that bad?
Speaker 2: He's that bad because you hear about like how much
Speaker 2: money they wasted.
Speaker 6: And it was the worst the best bad football.
Speaker 2: Is he really that bad because Malaiu Neighbors is really
Speaker 2: really good, right, but he's really really bad.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: If you if if somehow some way they can stifle
Speaker 5: the run game and we can make Daniel Jones have
Speaker 5: to pass the ball, we will have two to interceptions
Speaker 5: without a shadow of a doubt. He's not accurate, he
Speaker 5: doesn't read the football feel well. They've tried to again,
Speaker 5: like last get they ran about thirty five times.
Speaker 6: They don't want him passing a lot.
Speaker 4: The Giants ran at thirty five.
Speaker 5: Times when he and and now they're trying to find
Speaker 5: Elik Neighbors. So it's almost like, hey, we're calling this
Speaker 5: thing up. Throw it to Milie Neighbors. We ain't even try.
Speaker 5: We don't want you progressing. We don't want you working
Speaker 5: through all this type of stuff. But that's the one,
Speaker 5: that's the one rail hope that I have. Now, what
Speaker 5: I will say, I called him, I called the Vanilla
Speaker 5: Vic on my last show. He will he got some
Speaker 5: wheels now and they will run that RPO. So don't
Speaker 5: fall asleep because he'll he'll he'll take out the bread
Speaker 5: basket and come out the other end, and he can
Speaker 5: scoot a little bit. Sometimes he's still he ain't the
Speaker 5: brightness up top because he'll still running the line by
Speaker 5: and won't slide and won't get down.
Speaker 6: But he will, he will. He will tuck in and run.
Speaker 5: If you give him the opportunity to he'll do it
Speaker 5: two or three times, four times a game.
Speaker 6: But he's a bad quarterback.
Speaker 5: And that's the one that's the one ray of hope,
Speaker 5: the beaming light that I have is that if they
Speaker 5: give Daniel Jones the opportunity to be Daniel Jones, he
Speaker 5: will be Daniel Jones. And that's not a good NFL
Speaker 5: playing quarterback. But if you allow them, if you lie
Speaker 5: Brian dave Ball to say, Daniel Jones, you're only going
Speaker 5: to pass the ball fifteen to seventeen times, you in trouble.
Speaker 5: You're in trouble because you know what that means. We've
Speaker 5: had a ton of success on the ground. I can
Speaker 5: tell you when this I cannot watch this game. I
Speaker 5: cannot watch this game, and I can ask you for
Speaker 5: one stat.
Speaker 6: And if you tell me that stat, I'll tell.
Speaker 4: You who won the football game?
Speaker 6: Throw the ball? How many times you throw the football?
Speaker 5: If I if I didn't watch his game and I
Speaker 5: called you and you said, give me the stat of
Speaker 5: passing attempts for Daniel Jones?
Speaker 2: How many do they need for him for you to
Speaker 2: feel confident the Cowboys win?
Speaker 4: What's the over?
Speaker 6: Twenty five?
Speaker 4: Twenty five or more? And Cowboys win?
Speaker 5: Yep, okay, twenty five or more than? The Cowboys are
Speaker 5: winning all right in the show.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
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Speaker 6: He never did it on me.
Speaker 2: He never did All right, Oh, Kurt, you booked that
Speaker 2: stat up in the break you found it.
Speaker 11: Uh dak as a one six point seven passer rating
Speaker 11: on the Blitz.
Speaker 9: So you're doing.
Speaker 4: Pretty good, doing pretty good.
Speaker 11: That's this year, right, Yeah, he's like you said, earlier's
Speaker 11: traditionally been pretty good.
Speaker 6: Yeah blitz.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: A couple couple of things to get to real quick
Speaker 2: before we give you our predictions.
Speaker 4: So some more talking. Yesterday, Micah and CD had things
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 2: Oh he spoke, he did speak, took responsibility for his
Speaker 2: sideline actions.
Speaker 4: Said he'd changed, but that's happened before and the first time.
Speaker 4: Said he needs to be different.
Speaker 2: And you know he'll So I believe you believe him.
Speaker 6: Do it happened again, giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 6: I gotta believe.
Speaker 8: I gotta believe he's bigger than that. I gotta We've
Speaker 8: seen him grow, and I gotta believe that you will
Speaker 8: still see the facial because I don't think you can
Speaker 8: get rid of that.
Speaker 6: Because when I saw Amari.
Speaker 8: Cooper about three weeks ago give some looks to his
Speaker 8: quarterback like it's in every it's in every receiver.
Speaker 7: You just have to know what you're looking for.
Speaker 4: And it happens a lot around the leader.
Speaker 6: You didn't received and tell me from wrong.
Speaker 5: Let him not get the ball his first half of
Speaker 5: this game.
Speaker 6: You see what happened. That's gonna be the true testament.
Speaker 7: Do you remember, No, no, no, let me finish.
Speaker 5: The true testament is not if he goes out there
Speaker 5: and has six catches four hundred yards in the first half, right.
Speaker 6: The true testament is if he's changed.
Speaker 5: Is if he goes out there and there's a third
Speaker 5: game of what's happened in the last two games, and
Speaker 5: then we see how he acts. Is he going to
Speaker 5: be on the sideline encouraging, picking folks up, trying to
Speaker 5: make sure everybody is standing in the line, or now,
Speaker 5: he may not do the verbalization and they may not
Speaker 5: get into a spat, but if you walk down the
Speaker 5: other end of the field standing by yourself, that's just
Speaker 5: as loud as you speaking.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that that's what we're really gonna find out if
Speaker 5: there is there a true change in his uh uh,
Speaker 5: in his approach to when things don't go well.
Speaker 11: He gets frustrated because he's getting so much coverage.
Speaker 9: Now nobody's helping him.
Speaker 5: Really, I mean, he's been getting coverage that ain't changed.
Speaker 5: If I ain't never not, I ain't never ain't it's
Speaker 5: never not been a thing.
Speaker 2: For him, if my terrible memory serves me correctly. The
Speaker 2: last time he had an episode on the side off,
Speaker 2: they threw him the ball like twelve times in the
Speaker 2: first half, and he had like one hundred and so
Speaker 2: if I'm him, maybe I'm like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: need to show my ass a little bit more. Off
Speaker 2: he gets some respect around here, Like I got the
Speaker 2: paycheck man.
Speaker 11: He has he he has the lowest like cushion where
Speaker 11: the separation at the line of scrimmage, like the defensive
Speaker 11: back the shortest separations for their out in him and
Speaker 11: he has the like third or fourth lowest separation.
Speaker 9: So off the ball, you know, I mean.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you why. Here's why.
Speaker 5: When you can't establish a run as a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 5: as a dB, as a defense I know that we're
Speaker 5: gonna play coverage, so I know I got a safety
Speaker 5: behind me. I got a rat player. A rat player
Speaker 5: or a robber. Is that guy who's just floating around
Speaker 5: the Saints, he become a robbery. He's just floating his
Speaker 5: little he's in that robber position. When the ball is snapped,
Speaker 5: he looking right at the quarterback. If the quarterback ey
Speaker 5: do this, guess what he going that way? He has
Speaker 5: no responsibility but to follow the quarterback eys and rob
Speaker 5: passes that are coming into his owns. So if I'm
Speaker 5: a dB and I'm playing CD lamb who I know
Speaker 5: is your number one receiver, but I also know we
Speaker 5: only rushing four, we're gonna drop seven in the coverage,
Speaker 5: then I can play ultra aggressive at the line of
Speaker 5: scrim is because even if you beat me, even if
Speaker 5: you beat me, there's a guyst in the over top
Speaker 5: of me that's gonnat that's gonna pick you up. And
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a linebacker inside that's buzzing out this
Speaker 5: way anyway. So I'm covered inside, I'm covered behind. So
Speaker 5: now I can get super physical at the point of
Speaker 5: at the point of attack, and if I miss, oh well,
Speaker 5: but if I get contact and I slow you down,
Speaker 5: I now throw off the timing of you and your quarterback.
Speaker 6: And now he if you were the first read, you're done. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if you were another part, another second or third read,
Speaker 5: now I've I've cuted it up. I made it a
Speaker 5: little bit more cloudy for him to throw it to you.
Speaker 5: So that's why you see that separation now, because no
Speaker 5: one fears the Cowboys running the football.
Speaker 11: Last week against Baltimore, the average, the league average for
Speaker 11: separation and receivers is two point nine six yards, so
Speaker 11: just under three.
Speaker 9: Ferguson was just over three, three point on one.
Speaker 6: He's the highest on the team.
Speaker 9: Lamb was two point one, Tolbert was two point oh six,
Speaker 9: Brooks was one point one six, and Cooks was under
Speaker 9: a yard separation.
Speaker 8: Isaiah, and I'm asking you, everybody keep telling me about Cooks,
Speaker 8: this cook this cook that what's wrong?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 5: I don't know why people keep believing that Cooks is
Speaker 5: this player that he once was.
Speaker 6: He isn't he And.
Speaker 5: He doesn't run all the great routes like he's not
Speaker 5: this elusive type dude. He still has a little little
Speaker 5: horse power in this giddy up, but he just doesn't
Speaker 5: run a lot of routes. He runs straight. He'll give
Speaker 5: you a corner route, he'll give you an over route.
Speaker 5: But in this offense, he doesn't run a lot of
Speaker 5: different routes. And now they don't have time in the
Speaker 5: back end to allow him to use his speed to
Speaker 5: take the top off.
Speaker 6: So now what do you do with him?
Speaker 5: He can't run fast straight because I don't have time
Speaker 5: to throw that anyway, and they already playing shell coverage.
Speaker 6: I'm already twenty yards ball. I ain't worried about nobody
Speaker 6: running by me. I'm already twenty yards off. By the
Speaker 6: time you get to me, we.
Speaker 5: Probably got a dude in your backfield, so you ain't
Speaker 5: throwing it. So now what when you start trying to
Speaker 5: throw what routes are these cats? Running anything past fifteen yards?
Speaker 5: Is now a struggle with the way that this offensive
Speaker 5: line is playing, because here's how it times up. You
Speaker 5: talk about my drops three step drop, five step drop,
Speaker 5: seven step drop. When I do a three step drop,
Speaker 5: all those routes are between the line of scrimmage five
Speaker 5: to seven yards. That's how that time he sets up one, two, three,
Speaker 5: My time he sets up If I do a five
Speaker 5: step drop, five step drop one two three four five.
Speaker 5: All my routes that match up with that five step
Speaker 5: drop are between ten and fifteen yards. Okay, talk about
Speaker 5: Michael Irvin and Troy eight Men. Their most famous route,
Speaker 5: the Bangate, the Bangate. If I'm on the right handside,
Speaker 5: my left foot is up one two three four. When
Speaker 5: I fifth out, when that outside foot hit on that
Speaker 5: fifth step, I put my foot in the ground. I
Speaker 5: come across right one two three four five. For the
Speaker 5: receiver one two three four five. When Troy's backfoot hit
Speaker 5: that fifth step, that back foot hit, I'm throwing it
Speaker 5: to a spot the ball of Michael gonna meet. Now,
Speaker 5: anything further than fifteen yards require a seven step drop.
Speaker 5: Most likely, if you're not rolling out, you do a
Speaker 5: seven step drop.
Speaker 6: You need mass protection.
Speaker 5: Longer route that's fifteen plus That sometimes your double moves.
Speaker 5: That's sometimes your your deep twenty yard comebacks, your your
Speaker 5: over routes, right, things that you need to develop play
Speaker 5: action a lot of times in those seven step drops.
Speaker 5: The problem that lies with the Cowboys and the inability
Speaker 5: to deliver these routes down the field, and why dbs
Speaker 5: are not they're not getting separation.
Speaker 6: I don't have time.
Speaker 5: Three step, five step, and if I'm running zone, that's
Speaker 5: what I'm doing. I'm looking aside at the quarterback. I'm
Speaker 5: not even worried about the man. My eyes go back inside.
Speaker 6: Oh. Three step, I react, five step, I react. So
Speaker 6: this is this is, this is the issue.
Speaker 5: But not being able to block, first run the ball
Speaker 5: and then block up to be able to throw the
Speaker 5: ball further than ten to fifteen yards.
Speaker 4: It's all connected in kids, That's why they say.
Speaker 2: It all starts up front, both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: All right, predictions, Chris has got a little Save Chris
Speaker 2: for last because he's not here.
Speaker 6: Kurt, are you.
Speaker 4: Gonna be a hater? Are you gonna You're gonna like?
Speaker 11: I think overall the Cowboys have more talent, and I
Speaker 11: agree with Jesse that Dave Daniel Jones. So I'm taking
Speaker 11: the Cowboys. But it could be a shootout.
Speaker 9: I'll go thirty six thirty.
Speaker 5: Wowhy it is supposed to be rain in the forecast,
Speaker 5: thirty All right, Nate, I'm sticking with the three four.
Speaker 4: Cowboys.
Speaker 2: By thirty four, we gonna win four to three.
Speaker 6: Twesday, that's what you got, Three.
Speaker 2: Four Boys twenty eight twenty one. Chris has got him
Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty one Cowboys, Josh.
Speaker 5: Oh, Cowboys, thirty one, Giants, twenty.
Speaker 4: Three, thirty one, twenty three.
Speaker 6: Jesse Man, this is.
Speaker 5: I have a feeling this game is going to be
Speaker 5: a lot closer than you guys left to believe.
Speaker 6: I just do.
Speaker 5: Unless they magically turn this thing around and all the
Speaker 5: details and all the Superman balled and all that kinds
Speaker 5: of was out the window.
Speaker 4: I bet we're gonna pick the same score.
Speaker 6: We probably won't. I promise you we won't.
Speaker 4: I'm going ten nine.
Speaker 6: I'm going nineteen fourteen.
Speaker 4: Nineteen fourteen Cowboys?
Speaker 6: Whoa Cowboys? But I'm not confident in that.
Speaker 4: You're not confident in it. That's a crazy score. Now,
Speaker 4: how they gonna get to nineteen? What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: What's that?
Speaker 5: One touchdown on a bunch of field goals? Four figals touchdown.
Speaker 2: I'm going Cowboys twenty hate, twenty three Giants, twenty two
Speaker 2: touchdowns and three field goals.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm flipping.
Speaker 7: One of our biggest weapon is a kicker.
Speaker 6: This weapon is a kick.
Speaker 4: The best to ever do it, Jesus, the best to
Speaker 4: ever do.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys should just run off is now, just just
Speaker 5: get just getting it with the fifty five yards whatever
Speaker 5: pleasure can get you.
Speaker 9: With theft, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 5: Just get it to the logo, getting over the midfield.
Speaker 4: Give it to the logo and I'm good.
Speaker 6: We're going three our way out of this thing, all right,
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 2: One player to watch on the Giants offensive defense. Who
Speaker 2: are you going to be watching?
Speaker 6: Lawrence?
Speaker 4: Both w U two and eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dexter, Lawrence, you're having a good game. Rest guys, flourish.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the National Football League, Cooper BB.
Speaker 2: Yes, I heard it here. Tune in Friday. We will
Speaker 2: be back to see what we will do. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about the game. We might take phone calls. We might
Speaker 2: just have a one segment show. If they lose this game,
Speaker 2: we might just mail it in for the rest of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 5: Trust me, I show might get bumped for breaking news
Speaker 5: on Friday.
Speaker 6: Tune in to see what happened. Don't do that. Lose
Speaker 6: to the Giants bad enough.
Speaker 7: Don't do that, man, what you're saying.
Speaker 8: We will see a bigger defensive playbook Friday.
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