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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. Schmelk Detino, happy by league everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're back after about four days off little R and

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Speaker 1: prizes throughout the season. As we do each year, we

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Speaker 1: kind of take heed of where we are at the

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Speaker 1: bye week, and we figured no better time, with all

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Speaker 1: this extra time on our hands and no game to

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Speaker 1: talk about from the past weekend, than to look ahead

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Speaker 1: a little bit to the two thousand and nineteen NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: One of our friends of the program, our good buddy

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, who's now with the Athletic. If you don't

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Speaker 1: have a subscription, it's another great reason to get one, Dane.

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Speaker 1: I know we're earlier in the year, but I thought

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Speaker 1: it was appropriate. You got Schmelking Detino here. How's your

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Speaker 1: college football season treating you? Buddy? Hey, good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's been a fun college football season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know we have Alabama looks unbeatable, but uh, and

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Speaker 1: everyone else. Wait a minute, Wait minute, I thought Alabama

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Speaker 1: was L team. Yeah, I mean you're not too far off.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the I suggested that

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Speaker 1: we rename that L s U Alabama game the the

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Speaker 1: NFL job Fair Game, because that's indeed it really is.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dane, Let's start with the position everyone always

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Speaker 1: likes to talk about around the league, and that's the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. From what I can gather and form what

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Speaker 1: I've seen, only probably one quarterback that could come out

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Speaker 1: worthy of a top fifteen pick, Justin Herbert from Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Um tell the fans why you think he might not

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Speaker 1: come out and it might be more doubtful than say

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Speaker 1: someone like Donald at this time last year. Right, And

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, he's a true junior and he kind of

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Speaker 1: has He's had the same or a similar path as

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald did. Uh didn't start and as a varsity

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Speaker 1: he missed most of that season because of injury, very

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Speaker 1: similar to Donald. And then he played basketball and came

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Speaker 1: and he was an unherralded recruit because of that because

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Speaker 1: college programs really didn't have a lot of tape on

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Speaker 1: him despite being in Eugene. And then once some programs

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Speaker 1: like Nevada and others caught wind of him, that's when

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Speaker 1: Oregon realized what they had in their backyard. They offered

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Speaker 1: him justin Herbert grew up as an Oregon fan, had

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Speaker 1: we've seen him each of the last three years get

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Speaker 1: better and better and better fill out his frame. He's

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Speaker 1: six six two and thirty five pounds. He looks the part.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good athlete, but he's still very young

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Speaker 1: as a true junior. He's he's got about twenty three

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Speaker 1: He's a really smart guy. UM and his younger brother

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Speaker 1: He's a four star wide receiver tight end. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's something there's the heart strings when you talk

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Speaker 1: about a Eugene kid, UH grow up and growing up

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Speaker 1: an Oregon fan wants to, you know, lead his team

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Speaker 1: next year. I think those factors are gonna play heavily

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Speaker 1: there's a good chance he returns. And it's different than

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Speaker 1: There's talent here, but they're really young. I mean, am

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Speaker 1: I gonna come back from my my red shirt junior

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Speaker 1: In particular, I tell you, I like Ryan Finley out

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Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl to combine, I think Drew Lock

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Speaker 1: We talked about Josh Allen at this time last year

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Speaker 1: Now how high that's gonna be a good question. Could

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Dame Brugler from the Athletic Overall in

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Speaker 1: this draft class day. And obviously we know it's gonna

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Speaker 1: vary based on what underclassmen decided to declare once we

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Speaker 1: to be picking high. Yeah, you nailed it. I mean

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Speaker 1: You know at Oliver from Houston's already declared he's coming out.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you Quinnin Williams from Alabama, the red

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Speaker 1: Williams has legit top five talent if he declares. Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: What's his upside and is anyone else even in his

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Speaker 1: go through his progressions to find the open receiver. So

429
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have a thumbnail on

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Speaker 1: each one of these guys. So when we get to

431
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, in the Shrine Game. In the combine,

432
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: it's more about can you answer these questions that I have?

433
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Speaker 1: And you know, for a lot of these guys, that's

434
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: getting them outside the comfort zone. Um. You know Washington State,

435
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: for example, their quarterback this year, Gardner Minshew, a grad

436
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: transfer from East Carolina, who's really come on, he looks

437
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: like an NFL player, But I want to see him

438
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 1: outside of that Washington State offense. Uh. You know that

439
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: that quick reads. Uh, you know, and he's smart. He

440
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: looks like he has full commanded that offense. But what's

441
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: he going to look like at the Senior Bowl or

442
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: the Shrine Game, whichever All Star game he gets invited to,

443
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 1: when things are a little different. He has to learn

444
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: something on the fly. Um. So, you know, getting these

445
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: guys out of the comfort zone of the offense, so

446
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: the defense they've known the last few years in college

447
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: and having to pick up things quickly from day to

448
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: day in an All Star game, that will be a

449
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: big factor and what we're looking for. So ensure the

450
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: weight of your grades gets heavier and heavier as we

451
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: get closer to January and February. Yeah, I think that's

452
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: fair because so much of what you're looking at is uh.

453
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Speaker 1: You know, the Hayes already in the barn in the

454
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 1: barn for a lot of these guys. But it just

455
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: gets a little more critical because as you have you

456
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: watch the tape, you study these guys, and you have

457
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: a better understanding of who the player is and what

458
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: he needs to show you in the pre draft process,

459
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Speaker 1: So the tape obviously very important. It's probably of the

460
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: total evaluation. But when in the pre draft process, when

461
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: everybody is underneath the microscope, that's when things get a

462
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: little more serious in terms of Okay, I have a

463
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: question about this guy's strength, and he proved me wrong.

464
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Speaker 1: I have a question about this wide receiver's ability to

465
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Speaker 1: get open in his route. Can he proved me wrong

466
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Speaker 1: or show me that he can uh during one on

467
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: one the Senior Bowl practice. So and if he's not

468
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: able to do that, then scouts are gonna, you know,

469
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of cross that off their list and say, Okay,

470
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, he couldn't get open on tape, couldn't get

471
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: open during practice. I think I have my answer. Doesn't

472
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: matter if you run the four three at the combine.

473
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: If he's not able to get open on a football field, uh,

474
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's a red flag, Dane. Final question

475
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler from The Athletic. I'd like to try to

476
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: get ahead of some of this position scarcity stuff, Dane,

477
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: and I think we talked about it already. Funding offensive

478
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: tackles at out of college now can be really tough,

479
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: and I think a position that's flown under the radar

480
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: a little bit is wide receiver. We've seen so many

481
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: failures in the first few rounds at the wide receiver position. Uh.

482
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: We saw the three guys get overdrafted a couple of

483
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: years ago with the John Ross Corey Davis class, and

484
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: again looking at the draft class this year, nobody jumps

485
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: off to me, as boy, I gotta have this guy

486
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Speaker 1: on my team. Is it to the point now where

487
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: finding wide receivers at a school that are NFL ready

488
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form is becoming rarer than

489
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: for almost every other position. Yeah, I think that's fair

490
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: to say. And I think that, maybe aside from quarterback,

491
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver is the toughest transition for these college players

492
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Speaker 1: to make because I mean, think about what they faced

493
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: at the college level. They're facing corners that are most

494
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: of the time, you know, five eleven four or five

495
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: oh athletes, Um, you know, guys that just aren't the

496
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Speaker 1: caliber of what are going to see in the NFL.

497
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: And then a lot of these guys in college aren't

498
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: asked to run the full route tree, so once they

499
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Speaker 1: get to the NFL, you know, learning the full route tree,

500
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: facing corners who pressed getting your face and are as

501
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: big as some of these wide receivers. And then just

502
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: the chemistry with the quarterback within the offense that they're running.

503
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: It is the toughest transition maybe aside from quarterback, and

504
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: that's why I think we're seeing a lot of these

505
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: guys struggle in the Quoan Treadwell has all the talent

506
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: in the world, but mental mistakes and just struggling to

507
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: get on the same page with the quarterback has been

508
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: his issue. And really I think that's why we saw

509
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys make the move they did with getting Maury

510
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: Cooper instead of waiting to this draft class, because I

511
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: think this this wide receiver draft class coming up is

512
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: not weak, but I don't think we have that that

513
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: lock twenty pick. But there's gonna be plenty of wide

514
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: receivers in that late first, early second into the third

515
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: round that We're talking a lot about depending on the

516
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: juniors if they come out, because there's a lot of

517
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: talent in the junior class, but each one of them

518
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: kind of has a flaw. You know, they really like

519
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: what they do in this area, this area, in this area,

520
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: but they might have that one flaw that you kind

521
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: of question, Okay, how are we going to be able

522
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: to use? And Marquise Brown from Oklahoma five seventy pounds,

523
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: but he can fly, and I think a team looking

524
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: for that next tyree kill, they're gonna love Marquise Brown.

525
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Guy like J j R. Sega Whiteside from Stanford, a

526
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: guy who's a big basketball player, boxes out high points, uh,

527
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, comes down with the rebound, but he doesn't

528
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: In Stanford, they don't ask him to run a full

529
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Speaker 1: route tree and there's some struggles there with him being

530
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: able to learn that uh in a in a quick

531
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Speaker 1: manner in the NFL. So, you know, these these junior

532
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: wide receivers this year, we're gonna see a lot of

533
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: them come out, and we're gonna be talking a lot

534
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: about them the next few months. But I don't see

535
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: any of them that you look at and say, Okay, yeah,

536
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: he's a lot talk twenty pick and a guy that

537
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Speaker 1: you know you can clearly point to as a future

538
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Speaker 1: number one for an NFL off the day. We can

539
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Speaker 1: talk all day. We appreciate you taking a few minutes

540
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Speaker 1: for us. Thank you so much, and we'll certainly catch

541
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: up at you when we get into the bull seat.

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00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, enjoy it to thank you, guys. Thank you.

543
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Dan In Broegler from The Athletic Wonderful Job is It's

544
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: really really good, you know. Every time we have him

545
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: on at the combine, I'm just blown away. I mean,

546
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: because not only does he know everything about the guys

547
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, but he knows stuff about God you don't know.

548
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: And he knows the stuff off the field to which

549
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: is why his guide is so good. He gives a

550
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: little background nuggets on all those guys that are just

551
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: really really good. And I think that draft guy's coming

552
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: out again this year, so well, we didn't We didn't

553
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: ask him because he's probably way way, way, way way

554
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: wait way away from actually getting that stuck at you.

555
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he has his notes ready though readybody hasn't

556
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: got that binder ready. Of course, we want to remind

557
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: you that big blue kickoff Live is presented by Cores Light.

558
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: Download the Coors Light Rewards after an amazing Giants prizes

559
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: throughout the season. Now we'll take your calls the rest

560
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: of the way at two, one, nine, three, nine four

561
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 1: or five on three Get on the horn. Will take

562
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: your calls on anything New York Football Giants UH and

563
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 1: anything around the National Football League going on during this

564
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: bye week. Of course, the Giants are back in action

565
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: next Monday night against the San Francis for nine is.

566
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: They're coming off a Thursday night win against the Oakland Raiders.

567
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if the Oakland Raiders actually are

568
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna even play games the rest of the year. Are

569
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: they just gonna try to don't make fun of them?

570
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: There are enough for teams that having in trouble this year.

571
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: We don't need to make fun of anyone. Well, no,

572
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: that that's true, But I will say this, watching that

573
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: and I just watched that game on tape this morning.

574
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh oh it was it was It was rough. It

575
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: was rough. Um. A couple other pieces of information. Jamal

576
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: Brown was claimed by the Giants flavors from the round.

577
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: Nick Rams, five year old third round pick from UH

578
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: started sixteen games the Rams and guard last year. Um.

579
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: He had a suspension this year this year because of

580
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: substance abuse for the first four games, Um, and he

581
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: could not break back into the starting lineup and they

582
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: end up having to let him go to make room

583
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: for Dante Fowler Jr. The defensive end. So, Um, it's

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: a guy that has thirty starts in his career. He's young.

585
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: He's only twenty five years old, played in forty two

586
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: career games. So he's a young guy. You get him

587
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: into the mix of the guard position and let him

588
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: compete with some of the veterans on the team. John,

589
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who I think is listed

590
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: at six four three thirty five three forty. He's a

591
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: large fellow, Okay. He is similar similar in frame to

592
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: d J. Fluker. Okay. He's a big road grader. He's

593
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: a hog molly and he is a run blocker first. Okay,

594
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: that's what he does really well. Um. And from what

595
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, he's in the last year of

596
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: his contract, and that's one of the reasons the Browns

597
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: are not the Browns. The Rams allowed him to walk

598
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: or made him a waiver guy because, uh, they got

599
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: a cap issue coming up in the off season and

600
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: they know he's gonna command some bucks, and they figure, look,

601
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to resign him anyway. And

602
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: the kid they got playing right guard now is apparently

603
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: lights out. I'm sure they tried to move him to

604
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: whatever time they had in between the Fouler trade and

605
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. I'm sure they tried to move him

606
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: by a trade, but I'm sure it was a pretty

607
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: time sensitive spot right there with when the Fouler trade

608
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: went down. So you have to make room for him.

609
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, look, I think he's a good signing. He's

610
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: a third round pack, he's only twenty five, you like

611
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: all those things. I'm never gonna lose my mind to

612
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: get a little excited about somebody claimed off of waivers,

613
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: because there's a reason he's on waivers. So I'm not

614
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna act like he's gonna turn everything around, um and

615
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: be the big solving all the problems type of guy

616
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: coming in you're on, you know, on a white horse.

617
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: But having another young guy that was a third round

618
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: pick in the mix can't be a bad thing this way.

619
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Speaker 1: No risk potential reward, sure, And that's really what you

620
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: have to look at. And can the Giants upgrade in

621
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. And when you're in the

622
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: position that the Giants are in, you're certainly going to

623
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: look to improve your team every step of the way.

624
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: And Shermer and Gentleman have both shown a very strong

625
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: willingness to say, Okay, if that guy's gonna be better,

626
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: let's go get him. I mean, they're they're not hesitant

627
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: at all about making moves here. They're very aggressive. We've

628
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: seen this roster turn over were times than a pancake. Yeah. Absolutely,

629
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: and he's somebody that they hope can come in here

630
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: and make something happen. So we'll see if that works out.

631
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Uh two one five, one three. Um. Obviously a lot

632
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: of stuff going on this weekend, Paul, and I thought

633
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: one surprising thing I saw are him not surprising, but

634
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: certainly disappointing from their perspective, Boy Redskins and their offensive line.

635
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: Huh So, Brandon Shriff probably out for the year now

636
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: with a pack injury. They lost their other guards show

637
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: on the vow and Trent Williams is still out. I

638
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: think with the thumb does he have thumb injury something

639
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: like that, but he he's gonna miss a couple more

640
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: weeks and boy, for the team that's in first place

641
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: in the division, they have a couple of game lead.

642
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I still think on the Eagles who are on thereby

643
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys played tonight against the Titans. For a team that

644
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: relies on the running game and winning up front with

645
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: their lack of weapons on the perimeter, we just saw

646
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: that team. If their offensive line is gonna struggle pull,

647
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a lot of trouble scoring points. John,

648
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: It's a weak division. Let's not pull any punchers on this.

649
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: It's a weak division. Whoever comes out of the NFC

650
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: East and makes it an to the postseason is one

651
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: and done. It is not a good division. Case closed,

652
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: not just all there is to it. Well, I could,

653
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if the Eagles could put

654
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: together a run. If there's one team that could do it,

655
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: it's them because of the level of talent that can

656
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: put together a run. But otherwise I agree with you.

657
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, I will say this, uh you know, you

658
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: look at some of the other of the opperational on

659
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: teams this year in the NFCAT, whether it's the Saints,

660
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: the Rams, whether or not you consider the Packers to

661
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: be that type of team, even though or the Vikings

662
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: they haven't won as many as they probably wished. Minnesota,

663
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: same kind of thing about the Panther. You know, you

664
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: just start talking about them in that class now, don't you.

665
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you do. I'm not sure yet. They have

666
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: the record for it for sure. You know what the

667
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: funny part is, we all thought Atlanta would be better.

668
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: What if they catch fire, they could certainly be a

669
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: dangerous thing. Well, look, their offense can hang with anybody.

670
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: The question is that their defense with and again they

671
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: lost three of the best players because injury, so you

672
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: have to understand where they're coming from with that. But

673
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: our offense is as good as any in the league.

674
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculously good. So I guess what I'm

675
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: saying is no one in the NFC East really impresses

676
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: me very much. And I think that you could make

677
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: a case for probably five or six other teams in

678
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the National Football Conference that you could say, you know what,

679
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: if they kind of hit their stride, they could be

680
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the team to beat in January. And the Redskins are

681
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: five and three, Eagles and four and four Cowboys are

682
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: three and four. They played tonight so that the NFC

683
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: East is gonna be that Sunday night game the last

684
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: weekend of the year, and one of these teams is

685
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna be like nine and seven, the other one's gonna

686
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: be eight and eight. They're gonna be playing each other,

687
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: and then that team's gonna end up waying the division. Yeah. Yeah,

688
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: it would really be a kick in the pants if

689
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: a nine win team winds up winning the NFC East

690
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: on like a tiebreaker, which is something you're just describing.

691
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: And then the NFC North again, it's it's kind of similar.

692
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: The Bears and the Vikings at five and three, the

693
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Packers are just three and four. The South is as

694
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: strong as you thought it was gonna be, with the

695
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Saints at seven and one, Panthers six and two, Falcons

696
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: lurking at four and four, and then you have the Rams.

697
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: It ain't won the Seahawks at four and four in

698
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: the West. So, uh, it's gonna be something that I

699
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: believe that last wild card spot Paul is probably gonna

700
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: really go down to the wire unless the Panthers can

701
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: run away with it. But something tells me the Vikings

702
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: are gonna have something to say about that last wild

703
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: card spot before all said and done, Yeah, they're very well,

704
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: might you know, John, I think the thing about what's

705
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: going on in the league right now, and we've seen

706
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: the turnover of quarterbacks over the last couple of years,

707
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of young guys out there,

708
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: and Mahomes obviously is all the young fellas. He's not bad.

709
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: He's the cream of the crops. And by the way,

710
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: you got to give credible and give Andy Reid credit

711
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: for what he's done with him to put in the

712
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: regular season. Andy Reids always good in the regular season. Well,

713
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: he's he's I'd like to describe Andy Reid in terms

714
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: of game planning one of the best I've ever seen.

715
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Gets his team ready during the week, managing a game

716
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: day game, he's a disaster. He's had issues postseason record

717
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: man always in a big spot in the postseason. Andy

718
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: Reid's team's questionable play calling, questionable game management, questionable personnel decisions.

719
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's that kind of guy who will get

720
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: you the playoffs all the time, but he's always going

721
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: to be the bridesmaid. That's just the way it is.

722
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, having said that, Um, what I really wanted

723
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: to say is that what. I really am kind of

724
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: excited about John as I sat back and I watched

725
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: some other teams during the Buio week and so forth,

726
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited. As an old school guy, it

727
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: hurts me to say, but there really are a bunch

728
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: of younger players now underclassman if you will, if we

729
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: can steal a phrase from college, who are starting to

730
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: make a significant impact in this league. And it's and

731
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: it's becoming very enjoyable to watch some of these guys

732
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: put forth the kind of skills that that makes you

733
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of you and ah and and make you kind

734
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: of say, wow, you know this guy can really play

735
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: now Again, I do think the league's watered down ount

736
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I do think the golden arrow was years ago. But

737
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: having said that, there are certainly guys who have a

738
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: very high skill level who are making their mark. Mahomes

739
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: is the cream of that crop. Let's face it, He's

740
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: he's leading the pack. But it's it's kind of fun

741
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: to see. And it's a shame that guys like like

742
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Cook in Minnesota are hurt because he could be one

743
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: of those guys. He came back this week, but he hasn't,

744
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, had much of a season because he's been

745
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: banged up. And of course that was part of his

746
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: college career too. Let's not forget that that was some

747
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: of the red flags he had, the shoulder issues coming

748
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: out of four nets. Banged up well, also one of

749
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: the reasons I would have stayed away from him as well. Yeah,

750
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: and and that's a shame because these guys could be

751
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: part of that class and right now the injuries have

752
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: really kind of sidetracked them somewhat, which is why it's

753
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: so nice to see Barkley doing what he's doing. Final point,

754
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I want to throw out to you, paul Um and

755
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: putting the Giants aside. Uh, we're just recapping with Dane

756
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: talked to us about this is a big man draft.

757
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: It is up front. Uh five, at least five of

758
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: the top ten picks are gonna be defensive lineman, maybe

759
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: more uh tackles ends. You might have an offensive lineman

760
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: slipped in there as well. The offensive attack from Alabama

761
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: seems to be the early favorite there. But this seems

762
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be one of those non flashy, skill position,

763
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: big people draft. I asked about the running back position.

764
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't even think I've seen people say no running

765
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: backs in the first fifteen picks, maybe in the first

766
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: first round. So this is very much a trench is draft.

767
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna be very excited to cover

768
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: this thing come the winter. I hope, So, I hope.

769
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: So I will tell you this. Um, I've I've had

770
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: a number of conversations with people in the neighborhood who

771
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: have asked me about, you know, Barkley, and they say, well,

772
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, how's he done the first half of the season.

773
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: Think back to what you were thinking about going into

774
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: the combine and into the draft, And I'm like, no, no,

775
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: he's met all the expectations and oh yeah, by the way,

776
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: he truly is a generational guy, because there's no one

777
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: in this draft who could even carry his cleats at

778
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: the un Can I throw out one stat about Barkley?

779
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Yes you can. This is this is one you get

780
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: from Tom Rock. Yes, this is the one Tom Rock

781
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: had in his article over the weekend, which I thought

782
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: was very good. Which is why you look at barkley stats.

783
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: Is he still fourth in the league in Russian after

784
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: this week? I know that's what he was heading in.

785
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't know where take a look for me. I'm

786
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: on it. But he's averaging four point seven yards per

787
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: carry and he's on pays for a thousand yards to

788
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: give a taken good rookie year, right, it just shows

789
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: you how you have to dig sometimes to get a

790
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: little underneath the statistics in time. I was I was

791
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna do this myself today when I came in from

792
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: over the weekend thinking about the team, and Tom did

793
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: the work for me. So Tom Rock from New Day,

794
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Sae Quon Barkley seven best carries

795
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: this year have gone for two hundred and sixty six yards.

796
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: His other one hundred and four carries have gone for

797
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty three. Now, on those seven rushes

798
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: for two hundred sixty six yards, I'm sure he has

799
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: a couple of scores in there, and he set up

800
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: the Giants to score, and he put the team in

801
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: great position and all that stuff, and it's great. But

802
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: when your other hundred and four carries go for two

803
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three yards, it makes it hard to

804
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: run an offense consistently sustain drives and succeed on third

805
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: down and succeed in the red zone. And I'm not

806
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: blaming this on Sae kwon Barkley. It is not his fault.

807
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: He's not getting a lot of help. But that's the

808
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: type of thing where I've had a lot of fans

809
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: over the weekend and I've run into people they say,

810
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: you know, John, I don't get it. Beckham's like on

811
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: pace to lead the league in catches, you know, the

812
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: third in yards. Barkley's leading all players in yards from scrimmage.

813
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand why can't we score well? When you

814
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: dig into little numbers like that, that tells you why

815
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: you can't score. Yeah, he's eleventh in the NFL and

816
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: rushing right now, I'll drop to eleven. Huh, Well, he's

817
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: got five nineteen yards, but he is tied for second

818
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: in the league with runs of twenty yards or more,

819
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: and how many of forty or more? He's got three

820
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: and number that leads league, that's tied for first, that's

821
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: tied for first. Croll to but twenty plus car twenty

822
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: plus yard carries behind the James Connor of Pittsburgh who's

823
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: got eight, and he's tied for second with the Melvin

824
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Gordon and Todd Gurley. Yeah. Right, there's another case of

825
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: a young guy stepping in and become a great story

826
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: and a great kid too, from what I understand. But

827
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: to go to your point that Tom Rock dug out

828
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: and you have now on earthed as well, only of

829
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: Kwon Barcleay's carries have gone for first downs, and that

830
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: is the number that needs to come up because when

831
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: you look at guys who have qualified, and I know that,

832
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: you know if you look at the NFL dot Com

833
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: was you can't really do it because they don't. You

834
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: can't filter out by carry. But it's brutal, it's brutal.

835
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to try to do this because

836
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: it's it's just not possible. But but let's just say

837
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: if we went by the the top ten rushers. Okay,

838
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: let's just go by the top ten rushers in the league. Okay, one, two, three, four, five, six.

839
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: Six of the top ten rushers in the league have

840
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: a higher first down carry percentage or should I say

841
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: carries four first downs in terms of percentage, Then Barkley

842
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: does he needs to get that number higher. It's got

843
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: to be up in the twenty five range, and right

844
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: now it's down at twenty one point six. That would

845
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: speak to the consistency that you're talking about. That helps

846
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: move the chains. That allows the offense to tell the

847
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: defense that hey, you know what, we can move the

848
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: ball anyway that we want to, and you better you

849
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: better not cheat against one one move or another move

850
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: because we we have the whole arsenal. And and that's

851
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's the kind of thing you're talking about.

852
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: The Giants don't have the consistent run game that they

853
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: really need to have, so they can open up the

854
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: playbook and allow Eli Manning to do everything he needs

855
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, and I'm gonna throw one other thing

856
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: out there too, and I'm gonna pull us out from

857
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: the story, um from last week. I think it was

858
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: a cover three for the first half season takeaway, and

859
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: I kind of dug into the numbers a little bit

860
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: and a couple of interesting things. Um. The theme of

861
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the story for me was that there's no one thing

862
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: that's playing the Giant. That's a lot of different things. Okay, Um,

863
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: the Giants only four teams have had more third down

864
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: conversion attempts of ten yards or more on those types

865
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: of On third down conversions in general, the Giants are

866
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: converting tht but on ten or more they're one of

867
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: the worst in the league. I think around ten or

868
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: twelve per cent, So on third downs of four yards

869
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: are fewer, they're actually one of the best team is

870
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: in the league. You're running on third down, So if

871
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: you can get into those type of situations, you're in

872
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: better shape. And why are you getting into those situations, Paul?

873
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: The Giants offense have sixty two negative plays that have

874
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: gone for negative three and seven yards. That's not including penalties,

875
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: and they've had some of those two Okay, only one

876
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: other team has more total negative yardage on offense this year,

877
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 1: and only two teams have more negative plays, So that's

878
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna put you in more of those third and very longs.

879
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Eli Man has been sacked thirty one times this season,

880
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: has been hit a lot more than that. And we

881
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: just talked about the negative carries with se Kwon Barkley.

882
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: So just offensively, those are the type of things that

883
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: prevent you from sustaining drives that caused three and ounce

884
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: and that's throwing the red zone issue out of the window,

885
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: which are second worst than the league. So those are

886
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: just a couple of things for me offensively for the

887
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Giants that I looked at during this bye week doing

888
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: a bit of a deep dive that. Look, that's how

889
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: you fix these things. You have to You can't just say, oh,

890
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: you gotta get better on third dance, Well, why are

891
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: you having the problem on third down? Then how do

892
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: you fix the cause of that? Get better on first down?

893
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: With their only average about three yards per play? Okay,

894
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: that's the deal really, when you get down to it,

895
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: it's not about third down. Okay, it's about first down.

896
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to get into into

897
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: five hour discussion about Eli Manning. You not, You guys

898
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: know how I feel about it. I think he's been

899
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: vastly criticized and overcriticized to the point that it makes

900
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: me nauseous. But when you consider how many handicaps he

901
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: has had to deal with, from the sacks to the hurries,

902
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: to the lack of consistency in the run game, to

903
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: all the third and longs that he's had to face

904
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: about drop passes that was more last year. The percentage

905
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: of drop passes is way down there to last year.

906
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't really want to go there.

907
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: But the other things are all sick, magnificant hurdles that

908
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: no quarterback would be able to overcome, and Once you

909
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: guys understand that, then then the heat will be turned

910
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: down on this quarterback because it's not on him. All right,

911
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: two O five on three, Let's get to the calls

912
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: in star with our who better to start the second

913
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: half of the season with? Then with Mr Happy. I

914
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: got a bad feeling about this, Hellelujah losing his mind?

915
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: Mr Illness jokes, I am happy. Hi, Charlie, Hello Charlie.

916
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: How was your By the way, Hey, you guys ready

917
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: to get on the lightness bus. We got two games

918
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: coming up that we should be able to win. We

919
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: should have We should be able to beat San Francisco

920
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: and we should be able to beat Tampa Bay. There

921
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: are two winnable games. Charlie, you will not hear either

922
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: one of us arguing I just lost about five thousand

923
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: dollars because I thought your first comment on this show

924
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: this week would be about picking up Brown to help

925
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Absolutely, because you know that's great. I'm

926
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: glad they picked him up. In fact, I hope he

927
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: starts against San Francisco. I hope he's ready to go

928
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: because I could see Greco just being you know, the

929
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: backup center and guard, and that's a good place for him,

930
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: But we still don't have no right tackle. I don't

931
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: know what we're doing one step at a time. Charlie, Okay,

932
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you guys kind of watched some

933
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: of the games for last nights. I mean, you know

934
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: the Pats against green you know Green Bay, and you

935
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: know how much time Brady and you know Rogers had

936
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: most of the time. I mean, they could, you know,

937
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: they could. It was just unbelievable. I'm just sitting there going,

938
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: if Eli has a time that these guys have, you know,

939
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: with our wide receivers Odell Shepherd Man, we would we

940
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: would be lighting up the school board. And Charlie, that

941
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: also then affects the play calling. The head coach has

942
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: confidence that you can protect for a couple of extra seconds.

943
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: It opens up the playbook to which then has a

944
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: doubly positive effect, no doubt. Right, And you guys were

945
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: talking about Barkley and it's like, you know, Barkley is

946
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: doing everything he can do, you know, I mean, he's

947
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: living up to what he's doing. You know, it's the

948
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: offensive line that's not opening up any holes except once

949
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: in a while, and then when they do, he can

950
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: go the distance. You know, that's when he gets those

951
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: long runs. So in fact, he got some of those

952
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: long runs just himself, just you know, making people miss.

953
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: But you know, if we if we had it just

954
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: to the old line, that was just fair, you know,

955
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: or you know, I did not even just solid fair,

956
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: the unbelievable Charlie I. I had one of the Super

957
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Bowl champion offensive lineman talk to me last week from

958
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: the the Super Bowl forty two team, and he said

959
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: to me, you know, we love Jacobs, we love Bradshaw,

960
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: those were our guys. But if Barkley was behind our line,

961
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: think about the kind of numbers he could have put up. Oh,

962
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: I know, it's unbelievable. And the other thing I wanted

963
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: to say, you know, our defense is pretty good. I

964
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: mean they give it up once in a while, but hey,

965
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: we you know, do Breason and throw forty five points

966
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: on us? And you know, and you know the I

967
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: saw the Redskins game too, and like that, we made

968
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: that defensive line look like it was an all pro team,

969
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, and then the then the Falcons going and

970
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: just run all over them, you know what I mean.

971
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: So that shows me how bad our offensive line is.

972
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: It's just it just amazes me. But our defense, there's

973
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: no defense in this league. You know, there's a terrible

974
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, and in the Saints defense is terrible. We

975
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: were going to do have a Super Bowl like remember

976
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: last year we set a record that it wasn't the

977
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: most yards ever in the Super Bowl, was the most

978
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: every yards in an NFL game over ards was offense.

979
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: It was a thousand even in the Super Bowl, as

980
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: I thought, did he get to a thousand? It might

981
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: have been close. Look, Charlie, here's the bottom line. Though

982
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: the league has been going this way for a while

983
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: because of the rules changes, okay, and because of the

984
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: emphasis on the passing game. This is what you have.

985
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: It's Madden Football and and you know so this should

986
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: not surprise you. But this is all the more reason

987
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: why you have to build the trenches. And the only

988
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: understand I want to say is about Drew Brees. You know,

989
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I always think it's so important to look where the

990
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: quarterback played all most of his lifetime in football. And

991
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: when you've got a guy playing in a dome onnter,

992
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: not out in the bad weather. I mean, I'm not

993
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: saying Drew Brees, it wouldn't be a great quarterback anyway,

994
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be as good as he is playing there.

995
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: And then you have somebody like Philip Sam's who played

996
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: in New York in the wind in the Almis. To me,

997
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer, and Drew Brees if he

998
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: was playing in New York, I don't know if you'd

999
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer or not. Probably would be.

1000
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a Hall of Famer, just like

1001
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: pay Manning will be a Hall of Famer. But do

1002
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: you give a little extra checkmark to someone like Tom

1003
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Brady who has to play in the outdoors. Absolutely do

1004
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: think about what Jim Kelly did in Buffalo and Terry

1005
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Bradshaw did in Pittsburgh. I mean out Brett Farv in

1006
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Brett Freend Tarkington in New York, in Minnesota

1007
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: when they didn't have a dome in Minnesota. Okay, well

1008
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: they had they had a dome. But the point, the

1009
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: point is I agree with you and that the guys

1010
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: who have played in horrible weather over their careers probably

1011
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: don't get nearly enough credit for having to endure those

1012
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: kinds of conditions. And I you're absolutely right that that's

1013
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: an extra little star on their on their cap that

1014
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: they don't get from a lot of people, and they shouldn't.

1015
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: But I don't want to take anything away from Jam

1016
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Breezes because Breezes, to me is a top top ten

1017
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: all time, no questions asked. Maybe even a little higher

1018
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: than that. But but having said that, I get what

1019
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, all that talk this weekend about who's

1020
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: the best quarterback Rogers or Brady Drew Brees needs to

1021
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: be in that conversation too. I'm sorry he does. He's

1022
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: not number one, but he's high. No, but he's in

1023
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: the conversation with Aaron Rodgers. Absolutely high. He's high, yeah, definitely.

1024
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: And the other thing is a punning. I mean, you

1025
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: had a gay guy, right, he played on the West

1026
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: Coast the whole time, and then he has somebody like

1027
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Feager coast. Now, now I know you've been talking

1028
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: to Shandetta because Sean used to talk about that every

1029
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: day in the locker room when he played here. All

1030
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: the other punters in great Weather were the leaders and

1031
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: the punning stats every week, and Shan's like, look what

1032
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm punting in. I got a giant stadium. You could

1033
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: tell Charlie Cook by week and know what had a

1034
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: little bit. You noticed that he was much more mellow.

1035
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: Every everything he said outside of initially short changing Drew Brees,

1036
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: was perfectly logical and made say, see what happens so

1037
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't have the Giants making you insane on a

1038
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: weekly basis? You got a call like that? Could it

1039
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: be he got to the pharmacy during the battle. See

1040
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: now you're gonna get Arlie know he knows, I'm kidding. Uh.

1041
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: By the way, UM eleven hundred and fifty one total

1042
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: yards in that Super Bowl fifty one, and Dan has

1043
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: a good one here. The Giants have an average distance

1044
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: of nine point zero three yards to go on second

1045
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: down the most in the NFL. They are in second

1046
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: and seven or longer seventy three percent of the time.

1047
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: That's good number, Dan. It's like and and But there

1048
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: are those out there who want to go after the quarterback. Well,

1049
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: in fairness, the quarterback has something to do with lack

1050
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: of all Look, they're a mitigating circumstances obviously. All right,

1051
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: let's go to UM coach Marvin in Delaware. Coach, what's

1052
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: going on, bew, I know we's short changed you last week.

1053
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: How are you doing? John and Ball? How are you

1054
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: doing a good how are you? Um? Yeah, the good

1055
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: gets on today. Um. But um, you know, the bottom

1056
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: line is everybody knows what the issue is. And it's

1057
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: not that uh a, men's not totally quarterback. It's it's

1058
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: the officive line. The statue put out about Barkley's runs, Uh, um,

1059
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: how many yards you get out of a hundred and

1060
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: how many carries he had. There's no lanes. They really

1061
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: don't have any running lanes that I see some of

1062
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: these other good offensive lines and given their packs and

1063
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: Barkley soon as he gets the balls either behind the

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage or after line of scrimmage, he has

1065
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: to get somebody to miss to get that big run

1066
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: for him. He doesn't get that that offer. So it's

1067
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: the bottom line is the offensive line. I'm almost what

1068
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: you call the first three pits may have to be

1069
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: offensive lineman's trade down and get a number one next year,

1070
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: and um and then um hopefully above the two and

1071
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: um trying to get some offensive linemen and you know,

1072
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: and maybe if that quarterback is not there, maybe that's

1073
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: the way they need to go. While I'm with you, Marvin,

1074
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: in terms of i'd like, i'd like as I said

1075
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: I was hoping to get two offensive linemen out of

1076
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: this past draft. They only wound up with Hernandez. I

1077
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen another one, uh, you know,

1078
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: in in potentially the third or fourth round. It did

1079
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: not work out that way. So now going into this draft,

1080
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say now, I'm not there yet because I

1081
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: haven't gone through all my tapes and scouting and all

1082
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: that other stuff. But my initial gut reaction, and I

1083
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: mentioned this last week on the show, I'd like to

1084
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: see two offensive linemen in this draft as well. Um,

1085
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: I see no reason to draft only one. If you

1086
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: can get to that can make this team and compete

1087
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: for a starting job, I think you have to do it. Yeah,

1088
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: I think we have to do it to balance out

1089
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: this team as far as running the ball and able

1090
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: to play at coach. Honestly, I'm at the point now

1091
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: with where this team is at, having two consecutive seasons

1092
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: where they are, I'm not in a position and at

1093
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: a point I'm sure we're but well, we'll battle about

1094
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: this in the off season. Um, I'm picking the best

1095
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: guy now, obviously there are limits of that. I'm not

1096
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: picking the best running back of sa Kwon Barkley. But

1097
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: but if I'm sitting there and I think the best

1098
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: pass restaurant the board is a significantly better player than

1099
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: the best offensive tackle. This team has ten sacks in

1100
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: eight games. They need pass rushing just as badly as

1101
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: they need pass blocking. So I'm I'm picking the best guy,

1102
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: all right. Don't don't misinterpret by statement. I'm telling you

1103
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: they need to draft to linemen who can compete for

1104
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: a starting job. I didn't say where could be second

1105
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: and third round, it could be. I'm just saying I

1106
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: think you're really still in coach Marvin, and and you

1107
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: know I filled the Knicks and I've said the same

1108
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: thing about them the last couple of years. You are

1109
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: in to pick the guy that you think has the

1110
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: most talent as the best chance to be a star.

1111
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't care where he plays. That's the guy you pick,

1112
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: and I think that's the mold the Giants have to

1113
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: be in. I agree with you, John in a way,

1114
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: but I'm with Paul on this. And because of the

1115
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: the the heart of our team that's hurting us is

1116
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: the offensive lot. But that's my philosophy. The best players.

1117
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: But I watched these college games there's no dominant college

1118
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: players coming out this year. Um and someone that the

1119
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: tour is actually electrifying the whole league a standby. Now,

1120
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: I agree. Defensively, when you're just talking about the defense,

1121
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: there's no defense this year. The rules change the hitting. Uh,

1122
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: there's no fear of going across the middle anymore. So

1123
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: those play a part in the spot. But when you

1124
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: were talking to the guy earlier, I wanted to talk

1125
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: to you John last week, but I didn't get in.

1126
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: I wanted you to ask him about a North Northern

1127
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: Illinois player by the name of Sutton Smith. What position

1128
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: he plays. He's a defensive end, but he's really a

1129
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: three four outside linebacker. He has the I'm not saying

1130
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: he's this guy, so people please don't say that's what

1131
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's he's Von Miller, like he's under He's

1132
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: one of these guys under the radar. A lot of

1133
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: people are not watching them. Sutton Coach Illinois, is six

1134
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: ft tall and only eight pounds. You're comparing him, you're

1135
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: comparing him to Von Miller. He's forty. He added my

1136
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: two old eight because he was originally a running back

1137
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: and he pushed over to defensive end. And then he

1138
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: went up in wait to two forty, and now he's

1139
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 1: small to forty. For von Miller's two fifty, he's six

1140
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: one von Miller six three. I'm just saying the way

1141
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: he plays, he's a motor looking up. Just look at

1142
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: my I'm not gonna say I'm right now, we'll do

1143
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: gook at him. Just look at him. And I was

1144
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: hoping to get John to get that guy to say

1145
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: something about sudden Smith or what he thinks. Okay, alright, coach,

1146
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: here's I'm gonna do. Uh and and thanks to the call,

1147
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna text Dane and I will get a

1148
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: little thing on Sunsmith for you and I will give

1149
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: it to you next time I'm on the show on Thursday. Okay, alright,

1150
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: thank you all. Be good. U just f y. I

1151
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: draft Diamonds, which is one of the reputable guys that

1152
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: we go through at times during the course of the spring.

1153
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: They've got him at six one to one, a projected

1154
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: forty time of four six five, and they're looking at

1155
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round for him. Fourteen sacks and

1156
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: seventeen He has eight so far this year, so he's

1157
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: been up for all the the the the awards, the Bednrik,

1158
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: the Hendricks Award. You know, he's certainly has been a

1159
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: very decorated player. But I just yeah, I I will, we'll,

1160
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: we'll try to get a lot more information on him

1161
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: as we get closer to draft time. This is not

1162
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: the time to do it, but certainly this is the

1163
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: time to throw names out so that you can start watch.

1164
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Because if you get a chance to look through your

1165
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: TV listings and you see a certain team playing, it's like, oh,

1166
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: let's see, there's a guy I think on that team

1167
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to watch. I actually have a couple of

1168
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: games in my DVR just for that reason. You go

1169
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: back and watch on three, Final Call the Show and

1170
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: wrapping us up is Lennon, Columbia, Maryland. Hello, Len, Hey, guys, Hey,

1171
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: how do you spend your boby Glenn? Imagine you kind

1172
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: of just like smoking your pipe on your back porch. Well,

1173
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: it's a little rainy, but I'd like to be doing

1174
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: that and put my hat on and get out there. Yeah,

1175
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty nice. Sun is gonna shine tomorrow. Maybe

1176
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: I'll try that. John, Yep, awesome. Listen, how can those

1177
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: numbers be that bad? I mean, those numbers you were

1178
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: reciting or just absolutely mind boggling enough to give you

1179
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: a headache. And my my first question is, how can

1180
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: it be that bad? We went out and signed the

1181
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: starting left tackle on the New England Patriots, who started

1182
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: nineteen games for the Patriots last year, including the Super Bowl.

1183
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: We went out and signed an offensive guard who started

1184
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: seventeen games last year, including three playoff games, for the

1185
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. We signed a guy who started sixteen games

1186
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: at center for the Los Angeles Chargers. And now we've

1187
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: signed a guy who started sixteen games for the Los

1188
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. What's wrong with our offensive line? Guys? Well,

1189
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: then this is why. This is why I and I'll

1190
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: only speak for myself here, I send the offseason this

1191
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: group of offensive lineman didn't have to be great. They

1192
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to be a top ten unit. They have

1193
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: to be a top fifteen unit. All I knew them

1194
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: was to be around the twenty to twenty three best

1195
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: unit in the league. And that would have been good

1196
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: enough to allow the offense to function. That's all you needed.

1197
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: And guys have not played as well as I thought

1198
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: they would have, and they haven't played well enough together us.

1199
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: That's an understand I don't have a good answer why.

1200
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: If I did, I'd be working upstairs and making a

1201
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: lot more money than I do. Right now, we can't

1202
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: ignore what's that the team they left didn't want them. Well,

1203
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: then there's something else that there's something else that they

1204
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: were starting players and right down to hold on a second,

1205
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: then that's not entirely true. All right. Now, his contract

1206
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: is up at the end of the year, and the

1207
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: Rams don't figure that they can match sary cap numbers,

1208
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: will make sary cap numbers work to resign him. So

1209
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: there was partially a business reason why he was let go,

1210
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: besides the fact that the guy they plugged in is

1211
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: playing better, and he's younger and he's cheaper. Okay, so so,

1212
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: but this this is a quality player because the report

1213
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: was that five teams claimed them, but the Giants got

1214
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: him because they were the lowest pick. So so hold on,

1215
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: so hold on, hold on, hold on, you gott You

1216
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: gotta understand something, Lennon, lenn you gotta hold on them.

1217
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: We'll get to you. We'll get to you. We'll get

1218
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: to you. Understand one other thing. You have to understand

1219
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: one other thing about this offensive line. And it's not

1220
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: an excuse because they did not play well the first

1221
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: few games of the season. Either. We knew it was

1222
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna take time for a rebuilt line to jail. They

1223
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: never had time because there's only two guys, only two

1224
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: guys who have played every single game at their positions

1225
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: on that line, Solder who's had a very disappointing season

1226
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: and Hernandez, who has had a very promising rookie season.

1227
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: The other three spots have been a mishmash of player. Yeah,

1228
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: but they were the same guys for the first three

1229
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: or four weeks. I said that already, but but we

1230
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: also knew it was gonna take them probably four or

1231
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: five or six weeks to have any chance to come together.

1232
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: As you don't ever though, they they chose to make

1233
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: some of those changes. They had to because if you

1234
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: kept what you had last year, that wasn't gonna work either. No.

1235
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I tell people all the time,

1236
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: they were between the rock and a hard place. So

1237
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: you can, you can say whatever you want if they

1238
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: leave eve the line the way it was, But we

1239
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: knew that didn't work, so then they change everything. Well

1240
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: that you can't cry about that because they try, guys. Yeah,

1241
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, with all due respect my turn, Yeah then

1242
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, okay, okay, all right. On one pretty good

1243
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: rule of something. If you have a backup, If you

1244
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: have a starter on your team who loses his job

1245
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: and it's now the backup, get rid of them. Former

1246
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: starters on your team don't make good backups. Don't make

1247
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: good backups. So there wasn't a former starters thought this

1248
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: year with John Jerry. We saw it with Flowers. Were

1249
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: probably a week away from my mom a. Although the

1250
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: contract may be too embarrassing to you for us for

1251
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: us to cut them, hold on, hold on and I'll

1252
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: let you finish. I know we're running over, but hold

1253
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: on a second now, unless unless the information that came

1254
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: out of New England was incorrect. Belichick supposedly made a

1255
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: bid for Solder, which was just a tad under what

1256
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: the Giants offered him. So he did try to get

1257
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: him back. He did not throw Solder in the trash.

1258
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: He was a starter on on a very good team.

1259
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: He tried to get him back, and the Giants actually

1260
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: outbid him from from the report that I read out

1261
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: of New England, so it wasn't like he was being

1262
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: discarded or thrown away. Belichick wanted him back, so that

1263
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: argument does not fly. He just didn't wanted back at

1264
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: that price. The Giants gave gave him, as we all know,

1265
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: a very lucrative contract to jump because they badly needed

1266
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: someone to fill the spot. So yeah, he didn't want

1267
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: him at that price. So that's what motivated Belichick to

1268
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 1: trade a third round to San Francisco for that offensive tackle. Hey,

1269
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have any idea what other Belichick

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Speaker 1: moves were, what the reason was for his other moves.

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Speaker 1: But he did want Solder back, but not at that price. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I I don't you. You probably know more about that

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Speaker 1: situation than I do, Paul, I'll give you that, but

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Speaker 1: I don't. I can't imagine a plate out that way.

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Speaker 1: And and by the way, he saw a Nate Soldier

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Speaker 1: on the back end, and he wasn't gonna pay him.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna pay him that kind of money, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't. He got a pretty good football player from

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Speaker 1: that for a third round draft try. I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: but I think you have to look what Bill Belichick does.

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Speaker 1: Very rarely does Bill Belichick pay somebody at this point

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Speaker 1: in their career, good or not, that type of money.

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Speaker 1: And I know that, I know you take everything with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt. Just f y. I Nate Soldiers

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus grade last year and this year is

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Speaker 1: almost identical. Just saying, okay, all right, let me let

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Speaker 1: me say one other things you got we gotta get.

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Speaker 1: And Charlie alluded to it yesterday because he watched the

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Speaker 1: Ridskins game. I did too. We gotta get a major

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Speaker 1: league center. They gotta get a major league center. In fact,

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Speaker 1: if this morning you could give me that Atlanta this

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Speaker 1: is this is dream world, guys, I know, but let

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Speaker 1: me just try to make a point. If you can

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Speaker 1: give me that offense of center from Atlanta and you

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Speaker 1: give me Danielle Hunter, I'll never forgive the Giants for

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Speaker 1: going double ow in the third round in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and fourteen, and five picks later Minnesota picking a defensive

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Speaker 1: end named Danielle Hunter. This guy's on, this guy's on

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Speaker 1: his way to the Pro Bowl. You give me Danielle Hunter,

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Speaker 1: this warning and that center from Atlanta. We go six

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Speaker 1: and two in the last eight games of the year.

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Speaker 1: Get a center. I know everybody wants the left hap.

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Speaker 1: Oh you gotta have a left tackle. That's the premise.

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Speaker 1: You get a foundation, you get an anchor, you go

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Speaker 1: out and get yourself a major league center, and this

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Speaker 1: team improves dramatically. Hey, thanks for taking my call. I

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Speaker 1: think we got a chance to go for and four

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Speaker 1: in this back end. I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: Charlie's right. We got some games coming up here. I

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Speaker 1: think we can win. And but you know, you give

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Speaker 1: me those two guys. And I'm six and two. I'm

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Speaker 1: six and two going into the at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season and feeling pretty good about the way it went.

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Speaker 1: Remember where four and twenty in the last twenty four

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Speaker 1: games were tune ten at home. I mean that's awful.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's just you know, how to go out

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Speaker 1: on a doubt. I don't take care. Thank you. Let's go, John,

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Speaker 1: Let's win some games, guys. All right, Hey, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my call. Um. And before he say goodbye, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't remind our listeners that Big Look

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Speaker 1: The relevant point that you made. John Belichick rarely pays

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Speaker 1: even market value to retain his guys well, and he's

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Speaker 1: let some very good players, he sure has. He He

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Speaker 1: is always one of those guys who says, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get you for less than market value because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the privilege of playing for me, you're gonna play

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots, you're gonna play for the Great Belichick,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna go to the playoffs every year. So

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Speaker 1: guess what, you have a chance at win of the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, you'll take less than market value. So that's

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Speaker 1: the way his m O has always been. So it's

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Speaker 1: not surprising that he would not have met the Alliance

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Speaker 1: in a bidding war trying to get nd soldier. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to me, the Patriots letting somebody walk is not It

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Speaker 1: isn't a big red flag for me because they let

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Speaker 1: everybody walk. They let everybody walk. I mean the last

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Speaker 1: guy they resigned, the big money they had was what

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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, right, wasn't he the last guy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: name one of the guy that they besides Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: obviously that they've paid a line Gronkowski that they've paid

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, and you said, yeah, we want

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Speaker 1: this guy here. Brandon Cooks audios for the last Mondola

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Speaker 1: adios last fifteen years. That's the way it is with

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Speaker 1: those guys. That's their m O. They'll they'll get rid

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Speaker 1: of a guy here too soon. West Welcome audios, tail

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Speaker 1: Low going back years ago. I mean, Ventri, one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest kickers who's ever kicked in this league, set

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Speaker 1: the old time points record. I think last week they've

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Speaker 1: let question Richard Seymour was the number one guy on

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Speaker 1: that list. I mean, that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: So don't take that as an indictment on Soldier again.

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Speaker 1: You know, and the folks, we told you when he

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Speaker 1: got here that he was good. He wasn't. You weren't

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Speaker 1: getting a He's never made a Pro Bowl, right, and

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Speaker 1: he was on a great team. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: people weren't watching seeing them play, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So look, they were in a situation where they had

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Speaker 1: to do where they had to do, and they had

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Speaker 1: no choice because, my goodness, folks, if they would have

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Speaker 1: tried to roll out Eric Flower's gonna left tackle this year,

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Speaker 1: who had people with pitchforks and torches outside. So don't

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Speaker 1: tell me that. Don't tell me that you would have

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Speaker 1: been okay with that because he wouldn't have been. No,

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Speaker 1: they went out and said, who is the best left

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Speaker 1: tackle available on the shelf, and they went and got him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul. All right, John, I'm back with Meadow

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Tomorrow it is Russ and you. I'm back

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Speaker 1: on Friday Russe and Fiegles tomorrow. That's Howe's Jeff asked

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Speaker 1: not to work today, so it'll be Russ and Fiegeles

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Speaker 1: tomorrow that I'm back on Thursday and then the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week. We're back with Big Live every day

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Speaker 1: Salamone was back in the power chair. It's good to

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Speaker 1: have him. We'll see again in Uh what senior bowling

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Speaker 1: in January? Do you think sounds about right? Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: see that everybody. How do you see