1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Coblt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: We're on the air from one until four after four 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: o'clock John coblt on demand on the podcast that's on 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: the iHeart app. And on social media it's at John 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: cobelt Radio. And are we on Instagram live now? Yes, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: we are, okay because we have a guest on the 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: phone that you're gonna want to hear. I hope at 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: least some of you saw the debate last night between 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: all the District attorney candidates. It wasn't on television. It 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: was online at the Los Angeles Magazine website, which I 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: believe is lamag dot com. It is still there and 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: will be up for a while, so you ought to 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: look at it because it contained George Gascone and nine challengers. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: There were ten people running for LA County District Attorney 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: that they were questioned by Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: and also John mcgardi, a writer with LA Magazine. And 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: it was quite good. It was way better than I expected. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: We had Alex Michaelson on yesterday and talked about the 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: pitfalls of having ten candidates all at once, but actually 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: it moved along pretty well, and I think you've got 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: a general sense of the character of each candidate. Obviously, 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Gascon is public enemy number one. We're going to talk 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: about the other nine alternatives, but we're going to speak 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: on the phone with two of them today, and we're 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: going to get everybody on eventually, and we've had many 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: of them on already. First one up, we're going to 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: talk with Craig Mitchell, because for me, he was the surprise. 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Craig Mitchell is currently a judge. He's also been a prosecutor, 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: a teacher, and the founder of the skid Row Running Club. 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: But Craig was on yesterday. I'm going to play one 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: minute of one of his responses because he really stood 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: out with his clear eyed forcefulness, and he hasn't been 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: a name that has been bandied about that much, and 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: I think he should get some time and you should 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: be able to hear what he has to say how 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: he thinks. Anyway, here's a cut Craig Mitchell explaining what 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: he would do on day one. 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: First day, I would reflect on the fact that about 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: four months ago in my courtroom, gentlemen came in. He 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: was trafficking twenty kilos of methamphetamine. What was mister Gascon's 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: offer to that drug trafficker three days in jail, two 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: years of probation, Not on my watch. Additionally, I would 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: assume the responsibility of prosecuting misdemeanors. We need to figure 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: out how to get people who are engaged in low 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: level crimes into the criminal justice system, so that those 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: who are crying out from mental health treatment for addiction 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: treatment can actually be encouraged to obtain such treatment. Those circumstances, 49 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: mental illness addiction is fueling much of the property crime 50 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: and violence in Los Angeles, and I would have a 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 3: plan to squarely address that so our streets would look 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: very different after a few years of my tenure. 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: All right, that is Judge Craig Jay Mitchell, and let's 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: get the judge on here. 55 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: How are you. 56 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm fine, good afternoon. Thanks for having me. 57 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: I was quite taken by your presentation. It's not easy 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: to stand out among ten candidates in such a tight format, 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 2: but you really were memorable last night. 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: Well I appreciate that. 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Now are you are you currently a judge? 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: I am currently a judge. I am on a leave 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: of absence, which is required in order for me to 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: run for this office. 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk about what you think George Gascon's tenure has 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: done to the city and the county. 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: Well, it has really compromised the safety and well being 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: of everyone who lives in this county. You know, from 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: my bandage point, not only from the bench, but from 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: the work that I do on skid Row, I see 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: it from two very clear and distinct perspectives. From the bench, 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: I see victims come into court not getting justice, not 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: being assured that the people who hurt them, who have 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: radically altered their lives, are held accountable. And from my 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: perspective from skid Row, what do I see? I see people? 76 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: You know, what were the numbers shared last night? We 77 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: have seventy thousand homeless people on the street. I quoted 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: last night that studies indicate that ninety percent of homeless 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 4: people suffer from addiction. But nobody is talking about how 80 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: do we get these people into treatment so we can 81 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: break the cycle of addiction. And these are some of 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: the issues that are crying out to be dealt with 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: that mister Gascon just is not addressed. And that's why 84 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: I stepped down from the bench. It wasn't an easy 85 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: decision to make. Being a judge is a job that 86 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: I've loved, it's important, but the criminal justice system at 87 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: large has compelled me to do this. 88 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: During the debate, it was mentioned that Gascon has fourteen 89 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: thousand misdemeanor cases that he has not prosecuted. I've heard 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: that number bandied about before. Could that be possible that 91 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: there's fourteen thousand cases in the system that he won't 92 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: do anything about. 93 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely. When I was a prosecutor very early on in 94 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: my career, every branch in Area court, and there's about 95 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 4: twenty seven of those courts, you know, you get a 96 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: stack of misdemeanor filings every day, and George Gascon, largely 97 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: adue to the attrition that he has prompted in that office, 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: doesn't have the staffing, in his opinion, to deal with 99 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: those misdemeanor filings. It is blanket policy that any drug 100 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: possession charge will not be filed. Misdemeanor vandalisms, misdemeanor petty, theeps, 101 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: they are simply not filed. And it's that broken glass 102 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 4: you know, phenomenon that is contributing to the criminal element 103 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: in our city saying hey, this is a criminal friendly county. 104 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Now, when that deal was offered, the one you mentioned 105 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: in the clip that we played a moment ago, the 106 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: prosecution had a deal for. 107 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Go through it. 108 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Again, the guy had some serious drug smuggling charges. 109 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: Correct, twenty kilos of meth and fedament. And within the 110 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: penal code there are what are called weight enhancements. That 111 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: you have a certain amount of drugs above a certain weight, 112 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: there is additional time that can be imposed. And that 113 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 4: simply was not done. And you know, and of course 114 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: my problem is I see what methm fetament does to people. 115 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 4: I see it. Okay, yes, ruins lives, It changes the 116 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: chemistry of a person's brain. So there is a point 117 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: at which there is no recovery. And to traffic and 118 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: poison to that extent with essentially no consequence, you know, 119 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: is the definition of immoral. 120 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: And how much time did they offer as a punishment. 121 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: He had been in custody before he bailed out for 122 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: three days, so it was prime served three days, two 123 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: years probation. 124 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: Three days, three days for twenty kilos of meth correct, 125 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: And you. 126 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: Just can imagine the destruction that that twenty kilos would 127 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: have caused in our community. 128 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Were you able to do anything about that or you 129 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: had to Were you forced to accept that plea deal? 130 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: Well, that is what the prosecution offered, the defense attorney 131 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: accepted it, and so you know, I just filed it 132 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: away in my mind, and it is one of the 133 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: primary reasons I'm in this race. 134 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: Was that case an aberration or was it something you're encountering. 135 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: Frequently, regrettably frequently? Be it drugs, be it guns, you 136 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: name it. What are they doing for illegal possession of 137 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 4: a firearm by a felony? And we have a gun 138 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: crisis in this country. Everybody understands that. We have three 139 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty three murders in Los Angeles County last year, 140 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: most of them caused by people in illegal possession of 141 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: a firearm. What are you getting? Zero time? Zero time? 142 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Can you hang on for another segment? 143 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: Sure? 144 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: All right, good Judge Craig Mitchell, he's running for District 145 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Attorney in Los Angeles County, did very well last night 146 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: in that massive debate they had with ten candidates, including 147 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Gascon And we have a lot of gas Cone clips 148 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: to play. We're gonna spend a lot of time on 149 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: this today because this is the most important election that 150 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: we have that affects your daily life. We'll talk about 151 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: all this coming up. We just did this segment on Instagram, 152 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: so if you missed it, you want to watch it, 153 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: it's up. 154 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: There for you. 155 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show, kf I Am six forty Live everywhere 156 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 157 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 158 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,119 Speaker 6: six forty. 159 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: We have much coverage today of the great Los Angeles 160 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: County District District Attorney debate last night, and you can 161 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: watch it online at lamag dot com. It was sponsored 162 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: by Los Angeles Magazine, hosted by Alexmichaelson from Fox eleven 163 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: and John mcgardi from LA Magazine. It wasn't on television, 164 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: but it's a good watch. Just go to LA mag 165 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: dot com and they're gonna have it up obviously for 166 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: a while. And one of the standouts I thought was 167 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Craig Mitchell, who we had not covered at all really 168 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: in this election run up. Craig Mitchell is a Superior 169 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Court judge. He's taken leave and he was there last 170 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: night talking very strongly and very forcefully. And h Judge, 171 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about another story you told 172 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: about the gascon special. Can you retell that for our audience. 173 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: Yes, you oftentimes see, in the course of a court day, 174 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: the attorneys will go back into the lock up area 175 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,119 Speaker 4: and speak with their clients. And what has been occurring 176 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: with horrifying frequency as of late is the attorneys will 177 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: then come back into the courtroom approach the prosecutor and 178 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: I quote, ask the prosecutor, my client wants a gascon special. 179 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: The word has obviously permeated County Jail that you can 180 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 4: get a discounted sentence if you simply press the prosecutor 181 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: for it. And that is what a gascon special is. 182 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: And this happens repeatedly. 183 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 4: It does. 184 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: I feel my stomach drop when I hear these stories. 185 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: I mean, and you've seen this come through your courtroom 186 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: now every day for three years. 187 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Was there a. 188 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: Final background to that? You know, I've been doing this 189 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: for over thirty years, Okay, so I you know, I'm 190 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: looking at the whole process going this is completely out 191 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: of whack. 192 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: Was there tipping point where you finally said I've had 193 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: it because you came across as somebody who's been a 194 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: professional in this line of work for decades, and you 195 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: just your demeanor suggested to me last night night last 196 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: night that I've had it. I've got to do something. 197 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: I've got to run for DA, I've got to leave 198 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: my bench and I've got to do something because this 199 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: is out of control. Is there something that tipped you 200 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: over the edge within the last year. 201 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that there was a single incident. It 202 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: has been a cumulative effect. And you know, it is 203 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: a decision that has not really gone over terribly well 204 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: with my wife. She was looking for spending more time 205 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: with me as I ended my judicial career. Taking a 206 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: leave of absence means that I am not being paid. 207 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 4: I have to pay for my own benefits. It's about 208 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: a four hundred thousand dollars hit and so, and I 209 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: merely share that with you to underscore how serious I 210 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: am about this needing to be corrected. 211 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that says a lot. I mean, it's very 212 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: powerful because you don't have to do this. You could 213 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: easily just put a cap on your judicial career and 214 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: just sail away. But that's all I'm saying. It's like 215 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: what you've had to experience in your courtroom and just 216 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: living in the city now in the county really must 217 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: have shook you up to the point where you jumped 218 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: into the race. And when you meet with people, how 219 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: are people? Is everybody aware what's going on in the county? 220 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: I mean so often there are there are too many 221 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: people who are either apathetic or ignorant of what's happening. 222 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: What are you finding. 223 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: I'm certainly finding that the public is very dissatisfied with 224 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: the current district attorney. What is equally frustrating on my 225 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: part is when I go out into the community and 226 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: speak with people, the majority don't even know what the 227 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: district attorney does, and so there is a lot of 228 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: education that needs to take place and people really need 229 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: to understand. Unlike the Board of Supervisors, where you've got 230 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: five folks, city council, you have fourteen. You know, there 231 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: are a lot of people involved in the decision making process. 232 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: That is not the way the District Attorney's office is designed. 233 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: It's one person and that's why that one person, mister Gascon, 234 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: can make such a tremendous difference. 235 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: I've got to go in a minute, make your pitch 236 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: to our audience. I think a lot of people listening 237 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: would be in tune with you. Tell them why you 238 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: should get there. Why they should vote for. 239 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: You, The reason they should vote for me is for 240 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: forty five years, I've served this county in a way 241 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: that no other candidate has. Seventeen years as a teacher 242 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: in South Los Angeles, eleven years as a prosecutor, eighteen 243 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: and a half years as a judge, thirteen years working 244 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: with the homeless and addicted population in our on skid row. 245 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: That gives me a unique ability to understand what needs 246 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: to be done to improve the quality of life in 247 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: Los Angeles, to punish people who deserve to be punished, 248 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: and to reclaim the lives of people that if we 249 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: give them the appropriate treatment, we can return them to 250 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 4: their families, return them to their place of work. Those 251 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: are all things I think I really understand and know 252 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: what I need to do well. 253 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: Judge Craig Mitchell, thank you for coming on with us, 254 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: and we'll talk again before election day. 255 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: It's very kind of you to have me. Thank you 256 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: so much. 257 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: All right, Judge Craig Mitchell, LA County Superior Court judge 258 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: taking a leave of absence to run because he is 259 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: so upset with what's going on in the world. We're 260 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: gonna have John Hatammi who's another very strong candidate coming 261 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: up after three o'clock. He is a deputy district attorney 262 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: who has won some really high profile cases in the 263 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: last few years. He's been on our show a number 264 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: of times. He also did very well last night. Now, 265 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: the debate video from last night is we have a 266 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: link on Twitter the John Cobelt showed Twitter John Coblt Radio, Right, 267 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: I forgot at John Cobelt Radio. Okay, that that's how 268 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: you can access it on Twitter and it's links you 269 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: to the La mag. 270 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Dot com video. Right, it's on YouTube. Okay, all right. 271 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: We're trying to make all the connections here for you 272 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: to make it easy. So just go at John Coblt 273 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: Radio Twitter and you'll see the debate video and please 274 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: give it a look. It's really important. I don't want 275 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: to sound like a broken record here, but this is 276 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: this is the big one for La County. Uh, Deborah 277 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: mark Is, We're gonna have some gas cone clips to play. 278 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear that weasel in just minutes. 279 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty. 280 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: On the radio one till four after four o'clock. John 281 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: Cobelt's show on demand. Oh, we got the moistline today, 282 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: do we not? Yes, we do. And also we have uh, oh, 283 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: we have Todd Benzman coming on. 284 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 285 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: He reports frequently from the border, he's a journalist, and uh, 286 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: he's got a story. Has Biden bribed Mexico to control 287 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: the border as brightened by bribe Mexico to try to 288 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: help him win the election. We're gonna see what that's about. Also, 289 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna Brian Claypool on because his firm has announced 290 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: a one hundred million dollar wrongful death lawsuit against Homeland 291 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: Security and the Department of Health and Human Services because 292 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: of a rape and murder of a twenty year old 293 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: autistic girl by an illegal MS thirteen gang member. That's 294 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: coming up at two thirty. And then, like I said, 295 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: John Tommy, another strong candidate for La County District Attorney, 296 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: will be our guest at three o'clock. We just finished 297 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: talking with Craig Mitchell. He was one of the standouts 298 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: in the debate last night. It was ten candidates gascone 299 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: and nine opponents. Lamag dot com put it on Los 300 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: Angeles Magazine and Alex Michael Cinert Fox eleven moderated with 301 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: John mcgardy and from the magazine. And again if the 302 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: debate video is on Twitter, so you go at John 303 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: Cobelt Radio and that takes you to the YouTube video 304 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: the link there. You know this is going to sound weird, 305 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: but work with me on this. So this morning, I'm 306 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: home alone and the doorbell rings. We have one of 307 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: those doorbells that makes the go beat, beep, beep, you 308 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: know that thing, yep, and we almost never get a 309 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: doorbell ring, especially at ten thirty in the morning. So 310 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the phone and thinking, what's this? Right, 311 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: I know it was something not normal. Pick it up 312 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: and it's a young woman's voice and she says something like, Hi, 313 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: how are you doing? And I'm thinking, on jeez, and 314 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: she goes, you know, I've been talking with the neighbors 315 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: because I said something harsh to her, or in a 316 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 2: harsh tone of voice. I said, how can I help you? 317 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: What is it that you want? And she goes, I've 318 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: been talking with the neighbors. And I'm thinking, all right, 319 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: I gotta be nice. This must be a neighbor. Maybe 320 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: there's a lost dog, I mean, right, and she starts 321 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: going on about you know, she's got some literature, some 322 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: Bible scriptures that she wants to give me, and I 323 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: just hung up, and I thought, what is this lady 324 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: doing in my neighborhood, going door to door offering some 325 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: biblical scriptures at ten thirty in the more. You know, 326 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: it's the kind of neighborhood. Obviously, it's a nice neighborhood, 327 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: and people work a lot, and there's probably not a 328 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: lot of easy pickings for your religious cult. And I 329 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: was thinking, man, how does the brain work when people 330 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: get involved in cults? There could be religious cults, political cults. 331 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know where a religion and an 332 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: ideology and a cult begins, but we're dealing in an 333 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: error where a lot of people are so immersed in 334 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: their ideology it's as if they joined a cult. And 335 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: one thing that she has in common with George Gascone 336 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: is completely oblivious to reality, seemingly oblivious to all reality. 337 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure she knocked on pressed the doorbell probably one 338 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: hundred hundred and fifty homes and got virtually no positive response. 339 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: Maybe some people were polite, but nobody joined her permission right, 340 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: And Gascone has now been our districtorney for over a 341 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: thousand days, and every day has been a bad day, 342 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: and everybody's angry with him, and there's a lot more 343 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: crime than there used to be. He's got he's got 344 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: nine challengers on stage with him. Half of them more 345 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: than half of them are or are people that work 346 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: for him. And he just keeps plotting right on. And 347 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, is was he sent on a mission not 348 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: from God, but from you know, like like George Soros, 349 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: who's the billionaire who's financed a lot of this, a 350 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: lot of these woke anarchy candidates he has. It's not 351 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory he has. He has dozens and dozens 352 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: of these organizations, and it's like money laundering. All the 353 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: money gets funneled to these to these agencies and sub agencies, 354 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: and his son has gotten carte blanche access to the 355 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: White House. And I'm starting to really wonder here, It's 356 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: just how what kind of organization, worldwide organization is this 357 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: to destabilize the United States? Because he's not the only 358 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: woke progressive Attorney general in office. We know they're all 359 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: over the place there in Philadelphia, they're in Chicago, they're 360 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: in New York City with disastrous results and is he 361 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: Is he truly oblivious because he's so immersed in the 362 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: woke cult? Or is this one of those mission accomplished. 363 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to create anarchy in LA, and I am 364 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm getting what I planned here. I remember talking with 365 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Dennis Sign, the Formal councilman, Rick Caruso, and another major 366 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: figure in LA politics, all three of them new Gascon 367 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: going back twenty plus years ago because he used to 368 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: be a top official with LAPD before he went to 369 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco, and they were all friends with him, colleagues. 370 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: Caruso donated to a campaign of his, and I remember 371 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: asking all three of them what happened, and each one 372 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 2: of them said, I don't know what happened. That's not 373 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: the same George Gascone, you know from twenty years ago, 374 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: that's fell in his head. 375 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: You have some kind of seizure what happened? 376 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: They didn't In the same way that you know, you've 377 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: heard about families where a son or a daughter they turned, 378 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: you know, seventeen years old, and they run away from 379 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 2: home and suddenly they're this glassy eyed true believer with 380 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: the sex pervert guru and the cult. Right, it's the 381 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: same thing. It's like, well, what happened to her? I 382 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: don't know. 383 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. She was in high school, she was 384 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: a cheerleader. She you know, she belonged to this club 385 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: and that club. 386 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: She had a lot of friends, and then suddenly she 387 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: met the sex pervert guru one day and you know, 388 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: she's doing hostage videos. 389 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: And that's what Gascone is like. To me. 390 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: It's like some weirdo, a religious fanatic, except he's a 391 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: political fanatic. And you know, a lot of these guys 392 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: have a charisma. You know, Charles Manson was very charismatic 393 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: to a lot young women fifty years ago and lured 394 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: them into his cult. And I don't know, somebody guess 395 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: going into the cult or he is now in charge 396 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: of the cult here in LA And it is crazy 397 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: what's going on. It is absolutely nuts what he's doing. 398 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: And here's the first question yesterday and the debate explaining 399 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: why he should be re elected by cut one. 400 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 5: Let me begin by saying that I was elected four 401 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 5: years ago on a very clear platform that we could 402 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 5: bring both public safety and reform. And as I became 403 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 5: the district attorney, we went through a horrible pandemic where 404 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: crime went up nationwide, it went up in our community, 405 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: but we moved forward with a platform that got me 406 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 5: elected in twenty twenty. And now for the last year, 407 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: we have seen crime coming down, not only in our community, 408 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 5: but we're seeing crime going down nationwide. At the same 409 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: time that we have continued with the reform efforts that 410 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 5: not only we cannot go back to the way that 411 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 5: we did business, but actually the fact is that reforming 412 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 5: is good for public safety. What I will continue to do, 413 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 5: if I were to be honored with me and re elected, 414 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: has continue to move the forward the office into a 415 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 5: twenty first century prosecution that cares with the victims for 416 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: our community. 417 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I guess you put it off there. 418 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: It is clear with our own eyes that there is 419 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: more daily street property crime. 420 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: Yes, what about all these smashing grabs? Yeah, how do 421 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: you say that crime is down? Every day, I'm reporting 422 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: about a smash and grab, people's homes being broken into, 423 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: follow home robberies. 424 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: Just on my phone in the last hour, I got 425 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: two alerts. I think my wife signed me up my 426 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: email up to some local, you know, community alert system 427 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: and apparently there was a burglary point six miles from me. 428 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: There was another burglary point nine miles from me. This 429 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: is just in the last hour. I guess they get 430 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: reported to police and it gets sent to this alert system, 431 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: and somehow I ended up with it. I don't know 432 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 2: where it came from, but I the thing is, and 433 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: this was discussed last night in the debate. A lot 434 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: of these crimes aren't being reported anymore, and if they're reported, 435 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: they're not being prosecuted. And even if the reports are 436 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: filed and sent by police to George Gascone, there's fourteen 437 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: thousand misdemeanor crimes that he is not prosecuted. Fourteen thousand. 438 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: And it's been repeated and I've mentioned it on the air, 439 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: and I've always mentioned it and been a little skeptical 440 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: because that just can't be true. And I remember we 441 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: talked to one of the other DA candidates and I said, 442 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: I hear it's fourteen thousand, and she goes, oh, yeah, yeah, 443 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: very well, could be. So then last night that number 444 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: was used and Gascone didn't deny it. Nobody denied it 445 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 2: because they took each other on over if they thought 446 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: that a particular opinion or story wasn't quite correct. You know, 447 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: there was a real free willing debate in that way. 448 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: So this number fourteen thousand unprosecuted crimes went unchallenged, So 449 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: I guess it's true. And we just talked to Craig Mitchell, 450 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: who's the LA Superior Court judge who's now running for 451 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: DA as well. 452 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I said, could that be real? 453 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, because there's you know, twenty seven 454 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: districts and misdemeanors come in all day and night, and 455 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: if you decide you're not prosecuting anything, yeah, after three 456 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: years you could have fourteen thousand of them. So I 457 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: don't know how gascone counts crime, but if there's fourteen 458 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: thousand prosecutions that never happen, I guess you could say, hey, 459 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: it looks like crime is down because he raised fourteen 460 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: thousand of them off the book Pops and he stands 461 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: on television with a straight face and tries to sell it, 462 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: and I. 463 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: Know, I gotta take a break. I'm too far behind. 464 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 465 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 6: six forty. 466 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock. 467 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: Todd Bensman, he's a journalist, he's a let me see 468 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: you get his title right, National Security Fellow for the 469 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: Center for Immigration Studies, and he is reporting at a 470 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: piece of the New York Post. The question has Biden 471 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: bribed Mexico to control the border to help him win 472 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: the election? Very intriguing. We'll get to that coming up. Well, 473 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: if that first cut I played to you, I played 474 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: you from George Gascon pissed you off, You'll like this one. 475 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: This is Gascon again. This is the debate the LA 476 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: County candidates for District Attorney Gascon and nine others. And 477 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: this is Gascon talking about the work he's been doing 478 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: over the last three years. 479 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 5: I've been an elected prosecutor now going into my third term, 480 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: two terms in San Francisco and one here, and the 481 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: work that we started to do in La is showing results. 482 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: One of the biggest problems that we have in our 483 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: system is the inequality and the higher levels of recidiviism 484 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: that are the result of a lot of the work 485 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: that people in this stage have engaged in for years 486 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 5: that has created one of the highest incarceration rates of 487 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: any nation in the world. We are showing that we 488 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 5: can hold people accountable and that we can be safe 489 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: at the same time. And if I were to be 490 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: honored with getting re elected, I will continue on the 491 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 5: path to reforming the office and moving forward and hiring 492 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: a whole different brand of prosecutors that we have for 493 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: the last three years that will take us into the 494 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 5: twenty first century. 495 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: That's astonishing he is. That's second pathic behavior there. He's 496 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 2: taking credit for reducing recidivism and the incarceration rate because 497 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: he hasn't prosecuted fourteen thousand crimes. Well, yeah, if you 498 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: don't prosecute fourteen thousand crimes, I'm not being too obvious here, 499 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: then your recidivism rate and your incarceration rate is going 500 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: to go down. But that is a bad thing. That 501 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: is a very bad thing. If there's fourteen thousand crimes, 502 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: you want the incarceration rate to go up. In fact, 503 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a lot of the same people over 504 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: and over again. One of the DA's pointed this out 505 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: last night. It's a small number of people who commit 506 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: a large percentage of the crimes. So if you put 507 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: away just a small number of these goons, then the 508 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: crime rate truly comes down. In other words, the crimes 509 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: don't happen. Not they happen, but they're not prosecuted, so 510 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: they cease to exist in the bureaucracy. That's what's going 511 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: on here. We're being besieged by crime. We know it 512 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: and see it, we feel it every day. Gascon is saying, no, no, 513 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: it's not going on. See you look at these statistics. Well, 514 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: because you got fourteen thousand files in your computer that 515 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: you haven't. 516 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Even looked at. That is evil. 517 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: I also, well, I got a minute here because you know, 518 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: we're putting on a lot of people who are worthy 519 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: of your vote, but here is one other guy besides 520 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: Gascon that is definitely not worthy of your vote. This 521 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: is Jeff Schemerinsky. Somebody called him mini Gascon last night, 522 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: one of the other candidates, and it's true. So no 523 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: on Jeff Chemerinsky. He is the son of that left 524 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: wing kook activist Erwin Schreminsky, who is now the dean 525 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: of the Berkeley Law School, and Jeff is far left wing, 526 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: but he he packages it in a softer manner. And 527 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: here's his opinion on whether Prop forty seven has contributed 528 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: through the rising property crime rate. 529 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 7: Do you think that Prop forty seven has made us. 530 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: Safer or less safe? And if less safe, how should 531 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: it be changed. 532 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 7: I don't think Prop forty seven has contributed to rising 533 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 7: property crime. The facts that I think are really compelling. 534 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 7: Thirty seven states throughout the country have a higher threshold 535 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 7: for felonies than the nine to fifty felony threshold. In California. 536 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 7: Texas has a threshold of twenty five hundred dollars for 537 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 7: a felony. I don't believe that the changing the threshold. 538 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 7: What used to be the threshold is four hundred dollars 539 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 7: and it was increased to nine hundred and fifty dollars. 540 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 7: I don't believe that that has contributed to rising property crime. 541 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 7: I would not support repealing or changing that threshold. I 542 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 7: do believe that property crime in smashing, grab robberies need 543 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 7: to be a priority. As Chief of the Violent and 544 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 7: Organized Crime Section and is the person in charge and 545 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 7: the leader of the federal robbery program. I worked on 546 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 7: dozens of robbery cases. I know that they're serious crimes 547 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 7: and they're not victimless crimes, and I'd make them a 548 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 7: real priority. But I don't think Prop forty seven is 549 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 7: the problem. 550 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: It's your hockey, all right, stop stop stop it. Uh 551 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: this is obvious, But. 552 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: Schemerinsky says, oh, Texas, Texas has a higher threshold than California. 553 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: What he doesn't say is that Texas prosecutes criminals who've 554 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: committed multiple thefts. In California, you could steal nine hundred 555 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars from a store every single day and 556 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: you won't be seriously prosecuted. You'll just be one of 557 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: the fourteen thousand unprosecuted criminals that Gascone has in his 558 00:33:52,360 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: computer base database in Texas, if they catch you a 559 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: second time, now you're going to jail. Third time, you're 560 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: going to jail. Fourth time, you're going to It's cumulative, cumulative. 561 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: It's cumulative that day. If you break into three places 562 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: and your total thefts are twenty five hundred dollars, you're 563 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: going to jail. If you're caught once and then you're 564 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: caught the second time, second time, you're going to jail. 565 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: Third time, you're going to jail. California, you're never going 566 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 2: to jail. You could do it once, twice, three times. 567 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: You could do it ten times a day. You could 568 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: do it ten days in a row. You could do 569 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: it every day for ten months in a row. You 570 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: don't go to jail as long as each theft is 571 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: nine to fifty or below. 572 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: That's what it says on paper at least. 573 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: So that's that's why you cannot trust a Jeff Chemerinski. 574 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: He's like his dad. He's like Gascon. He's just presenting 575 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: it in a softer manner. So no on Gascon, No 576 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: on Chamerinski. Do not be fooled. Hey, we have a 577 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: lot of work to do here. This is difficult, this 578 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: is really onerous. All right, we come back. We're gonna 579 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: get back to this all this da stuff in the 580 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: three o'clock hour, and we're gonna have John Hatammy on, 581 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: who's a deputy district attorney, another very strong candidate. We've 582 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: got Todd Benzman on after the news. He's a journalist, 583 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: he's with the Center for Immigration Studies. And all of 584 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: a sudden, border crossings are way down, just in a 585 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: matter of days. Did Joe Biden bribe Mexico to control 586 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: the border? 587 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: Todd? We'll talk about that when we come back. 588 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: In fact, we got a lot of bizarre and strange 589 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: immigration news. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt 590 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 591 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty from one to four pm every 592 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand on 593 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app.