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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks NBA

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Speaker 3: Finals preview podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, June third,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I'm jay E Skeats here in the

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Speaker 3: Classic Factory and alongside me as always Tass Mellis.

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Speaker 2: Finally it's the Finals startup.

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Speaker 3: It's a few days away, but finally next to him,

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Speaker 3: it's the bearded one atap shot Boy Trey Kirby, Hey,

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Speaker 3: hey yo, and the last, but not least over Yonder

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Speaker 3: making the magic happen, super producer JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello, there is.

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Speaker 3: And here we are. Shout out to everybody joining us

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Speaker 3: live on YouTube. Podcast listeners, leave your boys a five

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Speaker 3: star rating and review. Yes, the NBA Finals starts later

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Speaker 3: this week, but we're gonna break it all down here

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Speaker 3: on today's pod. Little programming note for you podcast listeners.

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Speaker 3: New pods today of course Monday. Also one on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: and then you got the Drop podcast on Friday recapping

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Speaker 3: Game one of the NBA Finals. As for Tuesdays and Thursdays,

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Speaker 3: join your boys on YouTube for a little bonus content.

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Speaker 3: We're trying things out. We're getting crazy now. I know

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Speaker 3: we're just trying things. Nothing's locked and locked in the

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Speaker 3: loaded here, so just bear with us. Okay, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Pot, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Thursday YouTube. Okay, let's break it down the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: The matchup is set. It's the Boston Celtics versus the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. They're gonna square off with our good friend

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Speaker 3: Larry O'Brien at Steak. Celtics are in the finals for

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Speaker 3: the second time in three years after going twelve and

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Speaker 3: two in the East playoffs, including a sweep of the

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Speaker 3: the first time since twenty eleven after beating three fifty

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Speaker 3: win teams in the West. Dallas eliminated the Wolves in

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Speaker 3: the conference finals in five game one tips this Thursday,

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Speaker 3: June sixth at the TV Garden in Boston. There's the schedule.

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Speaker 3: Look at those eight thirty starts for US East Coast people.

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Speaker 2: Except for Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Can't miss Sunday. You better start a half hour earlier.

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Speaker 3: That's right, all right, So let's preview this bad boy.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna tackle this preview sort of team by team. Okay,

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Speaker 3: questions for out each team, X factor, stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: and we'll begin with the Celtics. They deserve it. They

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that domination carried over into the playoffs. They took

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Speaker 3: play in Game one here in the finals. So Boston

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the best.

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Speaker 4: How are they gonna guard Luca and are they gonna

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Speaker 1: his hair. Absolutely. I saw some of the regular season matchups.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an overqualified role player, that's for sure, is fair?

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Speaker 4: And because Luca and Kyrie are going to be able

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Speaker 1: That's why I got Al Horford is my X factor

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Speaker 3: Coaching is hilarious. What one year ago both of these

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Speaker 1: Only the three points? Literally only the three pointers for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is interesting to see how the Celtics drive

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Speaker 4: to a league worse thirty five point two percent on

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Speaker 4: corner threes during the regular season, and they've been even

430
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Speaker 4: better in the postseason, holding teams to just twenty three

431
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Speaker 4: point five percent from the corners. But Dallas has been hot, hot,

432
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Speaker 4: hot from the corners. Yeah, they've shot forty point four

433
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Speaker 4: percent from the corner. Shout out to Chris Harring for

434
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Speaker 4: that set. And I do think that the way the

435
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Speaker 4: Celtics are going to guard the mass playing one on one,

436
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Speaker 4: just getting out there and not allowing the PJ. Washington,

437
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Speaker 4: you know, captain Corner from the shout out to Iron

438
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Speaker 4: Eagle from the corner or anybody else really, Derek Jones Junior.

439
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Speaker 4: That's that's the important part for the Boston Celtics defense.

440
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Speaker 4: No double, They're not going to double Luca for this reason,

441
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Speaker 4: so the Maps don't get easy shots from the corners.

442
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Speaker 3: The battle for the corners. You're right, Dallas wants to

443
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Speaker 3: shoot them. I mean we see Luca all the time,

444
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Speaker 3: like in the high pick and roll, and then he

445
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Speaker 3: throws a pass that it feels like only three guys

446
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Speaker 3: can make to a guy in the corner. And we've

447
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 3: had stretches where PJ. Washington doesn't miss the shot from

448
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Speaker 3: the corner or Derek Jones Junior doesn't miss a shot

449
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Speaker 3: from the corner. It's a big reason why they're in

450
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Speaker 3: the finals.

451
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Speaker 2: Yep.

452
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Speaker 3: But that's something that Boston just takes away all season long.

453
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Speaker 3: They don't give that up. So that'll be that'll be

454
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Speaker 3: fun to watch out the.

455
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Speaker 1: Season three of the Wire, right, what's for the corners

456
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Speaker 1: for the season three? Yeah, that's right, that's versus Avon.

457
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Speaker 1: That's the best season if you ask me, I think, did.

458
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Speaker 3: We just celebrate an anniversary of Maybe episode one. I

459
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Speaker 3: think maybe yesterday twenty second anniversary of the premiere, Is

460
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Speaker 3: that right?

461
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I have it on DVD, so

462
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Speaker 1: I know it's been a long time time.

463
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Speaker 2: I also do also have it on DVD.

464
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Speaker 3: You got the whole thing.

465
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Speaker 1: I don't even have a DVD player.

466
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Speaker 2: No, I got rid of mine.

467
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Speaker 3: I have a bunch of DVDs too. It's like, why

468
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Speaker 3: do I have these?

469
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we bought We bought a house and there was

470
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Speaker 4: a DVD player in it, and I said, Wow, this

471
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Speaker 4: is awesome. I get to play my DVDs on something

472
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Speaker 4: so exciting for a couple of months, and I just

473
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Speaker 4: donate to somebody.

474
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Speaker 2: Who else is you going to donate? Somebody else is

475
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Speaker 2: going to donate.

476
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Speaker 3: Ever until they're like cool again, like forty years from now,

477
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Speaker 3: like collector's items. All right, you guys talked to abut

478
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Speaker 3: the three point shooting. I'll give you one more stat

479
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Speaker 3: to watch, just rebounding. Boston takes care of the defensive glass.

480
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Speaker 3: They have allowed eight point three second chance points per

481
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Speaker 3: game in the playoffs. That is, according to shoot, the

482
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Speaker 3: few is for any playoff team in the last seven years.

483
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Speaker 3: Under nine second chance points per game. That is very

484
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Speaker 3: very little. The MAVs, they're pretty good on the offensive glass.

485
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Speaker 3: Thirty one percent of available offensive rebounds. That's the fourth

486
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Speaker 3: highest rate in the playoffs. That's up significantly from their

487
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Speaker 3: regular season numbers. So that's like a huge jump. That's lively,

488
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Speaker 3: that's Gafford Jones, Washington. They do work on the offensive glass.

489
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Speaker 3: So just watching that again. The Celtics, they end possessions,

490
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Speaker 3: they gobble up those defensive rebounds, they go the other way.

491
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Speaker 3: But the map or excuse me, Yeah, the MAVs. Huge

492
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Speaker 3: part of their success in getting here is they've been

493
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Speaker 3: really good, especially timely offensive rebounds. How many times did

494
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Speaker 3: we talk on this show. Oh that offensive rebound with

495
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Speaker 3: four minutes ago, Oh that offensive rebound with three minutes

496
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: ago that then get kicked out to a three point shooter.

497
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Speaker 3: That was a huge play. Those will be big if

498
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Speaker 3: we get into clutch situations here in close games, and

499
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Speaker 3: who will win the battle for those rebounds. I can't

500
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Speaker 3: wait to watch because these are two really good teams

501
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Speaker 3: that they're different disciplines.

502
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Speaker 1: This is the first team though, that the Celtics are

503
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Speaker 1: playing the actually offensive rebounds. It's like they played against

504
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Speaker 1: the Pacers, not a huge offensive rebounding team, though there

505
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Speaker 1: were some moments I thought when Turner and Jackson got

506
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Speaker 1: a little bit loose on the offensive boards. Cleveland was

507
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Speaker 1: obviously missing Jared Allen, He's their biggest offensive rebounder. And

508
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Speaker 1: then they played the Heat in the first round, which

509
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: seems like a billion years ago. They're a team that

510
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Speaker 1: gets back on defense as well. So Dallas actually goes

511
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Speaker 1: to the board, we'll see if they're able to keep

512
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Speaker 1: them off the glass.

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Speaker 3: They're just like the Celtics defense is just like a

514
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Speaker 3: coach's dream, right because they like, like a coach is

515
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: always yelling at you know, get the defensive rebound and

516
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Speaker 3: the possession because you've played hard and now finish it.

517
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Speaker 3: They never foul anyone ever. They never foul. They're like

518
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Speaker 3: they're just smart defenders who rarely put teams to lines

519
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: or is that to watch as well? Like they're just

520
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Speaker 3: that's they're so sound defensively, their sound anything else on

521
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Speaker 3: the Celtics side of things.

522
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Speaker 4: No, Okay, Now, I was just gonna say, Joe Miszool,

523
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Speaker 4: you just remind me of Joe Mizzool's interviews throughout here

524
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Speaker 4: through leading up to the NBA Finals.

525
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Speaker 2: There's just so boring because that's what he says.

526
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Speaker 4: He talks about turnovers, rebounding, and that's what a coach

527
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Speaker 4: should do. You that's not really interesting as a media person.

528
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Speaker 4: Maybe as a player, he's going to have the players

529
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Speaker 4: doing the right thing, that's for sure, But for a

530
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Speaker 4: media person.

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Speaker 2: Man, not really, I'm not really media man.

532
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Speaker 3: I thought he had one good quote going around, something

533
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Speaker 3: about like everybody's a villain or something.

534
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Speaker 1: Returning to Boston. We're all villains in somebody's eyes. It's

535
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Speaker 1: like the joker right there.

536
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Speaker 2: Oh I did I did hear? What we talked about

537
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Speaker 2: on Friday was worst of the week.

538
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Speaker 4: As ESPN was talking about maybe Jason Tatum was mad

539
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Speaker 4: when Jalen Brown got the Eastern Conference finals m v P.

540
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Speaker 2: Joe Mozilla said, that is bull shit. That's what he said.

541
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Speaker 4: The word the word ship. I can say it because

542
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Speaker 4: he said it and he was mad about it, and

543
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Speaker 4: that's honestly. That's probably a good thing for the selfings,

544
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Speaker 4: just that there's Boltenberger material already.

545
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Speaker 3: If there is, they're trying to but they're almost trying

546
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Speaker 3: to lean into like we're the underdogs.

547
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Speaker 2: This sort of they are sort of the underdogs.

548
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Speaker 4: Everybody's saying that, you know, we we just got to

549
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 4: so lucky in rounds one, two, and three. We played

550
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Speaker 4: everybody injured. We just played everybody injured. I mean they

551
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: were the best team.

552
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Speaker 3: They were significantly the best team in the regular season.

553
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the best team they've ever had, you know

554
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Speaker 4: during this Tatum and Brown era, Yeah, by far.

555
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Speaker 3: So it is funny though they're they're the favorites, but

556
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 3: they are trying to spin it, and I guess you're right, like, oh,

557
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Speaker 3: everybody's like, wow, look at all the injury luck you had,

558
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Speaker 3: Like you didn't play anybody, You just like walk to

559
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Speaker 3: the finals. So they're trying to like, hey, we're going

560
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Speaker 3: to show you. And now they get Porzingis back. All right,

561
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Speaker 3: let's pivot to Dallas here. The MAVs eliminated three of

562
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Speaker 3: the West's top four seats, the number four Clippers, the

563
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Speaker 3: number one Oklahoma City Thunder, the number three Timberwolves. And

564
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Speaker 3: they did this because of their superstar duo, because of

565
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Speaker 3: their depths, because of their defense. You have Luca and

566
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Speaker 3: Kyrie consistently coming through in the clutch, Like I said, PJ.

567
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Speaker 3: Washington and Derek Jones Junior. They took turns basically not

568
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Speaker 3: being able to miss a three pointer at times during

569
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, gafferd Lively holding it down in the middle.

570
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Speaker 3: So Trey will start with you on this one. What's

571
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Speaker 3: the biggest question you have about the Mavericks here in

572
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Speaker 3: the finals?

573
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Speaker 1: How they could possibly stop this outtics scoring defensively, because

574
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Speaker 1: guarding five out is going to be really tough for Dallas.

575
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Speaker 1: This is the first series they're playing in where you

576
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Speaker 1: have to worry about the center at all. Offensively. It's

577
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Speaker 1: like first round zubots okay, if you sit in hill shots,

578
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Speaker 1: who cares? Second round? Chat Holmgren. If he would have

579
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: had a great series, maybe the thunder Force against a rookie.

580
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Speaker 1: He's a rookie. He looked tired. He was shooting the

581
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: ball ten inches above the rim. He couldn't barely get

582
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Speaker 1: it there, and it took him forever to get it off.

583
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Speaker 1: Last series. If Rudy catches the ball, that's a win

584
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Speaker 1: for your defense. Now they actually got to worry about Porzingis,

585
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Speaker 1: probably Horford. Probably both of those guys are better scorers,

586
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Speaker 1: at least than Rudy Gobert is. So Dallas has to

587
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Speaker 1: find somebody to be able to cheat off of, because

588
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: that's how they build their defense. That's really their secret. Sauces.

589
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Speaker 1: We're not guarding everybody out there so that we can

590
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Speaker 1: leave Gafford or Lively hanging out at the rim, take

591
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Speaker 1: away the paint points they're shooting. Teams are shooting like

592
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Speaker 1: fifty percent at the rim against the Mavericks, So I

593
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Speaker 1: don't know who that's going to be. And I don't

594
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Speaker 1: know how Dallas Enticees isoball from the Celtics, because that's

595
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Speaker 1: when they look their worse when they're getting into the

596
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Speaker 1: long two game. If the Mavericks can make this into

597
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: a two point shooting game, they're gonna win because they

598
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: have the best two point shooters in the league in

599
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Speaker 1: Kyrie and Luka Doncics. They can get whatever sort of

600
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Speaker 1: shot they want. So like, do you put Luca on

601
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Speaker 1: Drew Holliday, hope that Drew Holliday tries to post them

602
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Speaker 1: up all game? Maybe do you put them on Jalen Brown.

603
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Speaker 1: That's what the Warriors tried. He hit five threes in

604
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Speaker 1: the first quarter. He's been shooting thirty seven percent from

605
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Speaker 1: three in the playoffs, though he doesn't have a track

606
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Speaker 1: record as being one of the best three point shooters

607
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Speaker 1: in the league, and then Jason Tatum shooting under thirty

608
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Speaker 1: percent from three during the playoffs so far, and Luca

609
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Speaker 1: is at least strong enough to withstand some of those

610
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Speaker 1: Tatum bumps. So it'll be interesting to see if Dallas

611
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Speaker 1: can figure out the weak spot on the Celtics offense,

612
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Speaker 1: if they're even is a week spot.

613
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was different guarding okay, see in Minnesota in

614
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Speaker 4: the last couple series, because yeah, they did a great

615
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Speaker 4: job of walling Shay and they did a good job

616
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Speaker 4: of walling Anthony Edwards. But then they just said, okay, yeah,

617
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Speaker 4: you go get it.

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Speaker 3: There's guys that can't chore shoot.

619
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Speaker 1: They finally have to guard more than one guy.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all five of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's the interesting part for me. It's they

622
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Speaker 4: allow picking pops. They allow it was Chet Holmgren in

623
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Speaker 4: that series. They Jalen Williams at times. They allow guys

624
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Speaker 4: to pick their bigs and get out to three and

625
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: have open shots. So it's Jason Datum and Christaps sports

626
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: against most likely. Are they gonna allow that to happen?

627
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: Are they gonna be able to get out there that

628
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: is really important. I do think Jalen Brown's mid range

629
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Speaker 4: will be available all day, all night. The mid range

630
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: should be available because that's what they do. And I

631
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 4: will find it interesting to see if Jalen can just

632
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: get hot, because he has been hot, he has been

633
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: damn good. He did talk a little bit of smack

634
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: after their regular season matchup after they were able to

635
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: smack Luca and the MAVs. He didn't call out Luca,

636
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Speaker 4: but he did say the whole thing about playing defense

637
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: in today's game is overlooked. Nobody highlights it, nobody talks

638
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: about it, nobody cares about it. And that's what he's

639
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: priding himself on, is guarding and obviously scoring. So I

640
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: do think the Celtics will be good enough at distributing

641
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 4: the shots throughout their top five, their starters.

642
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: But I wonder how.

643
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Jalen will just get hot. If he does get hot,

644
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 4: so Dallas is just so good at guarding the lane,

645
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: and will they guard the three point line, will they

646
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 4: get out to those poppers and will they be able

647
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: to take out the mid range, because that's gonna happen

648
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: a lot in this and Jalen.

649
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: Brown more times than not and throughout this postseason run

650
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: like huge first quarters, like just sets the tone for

651
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: the team, Like right away, he just seems ready to

652
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: go more than everybody else, like just energy. So you know,

653
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: take that away or at least limit that early on

654
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: because he sets the tone I feel like so many

655
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: times for the Celtics. I also have a question when

656
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: if I should say Porzingis is stretching the floor, maybe

657
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: it's Horford and Gafford and Lively are in a tough spot.

658
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Will Kid go to Maxi Kliba to try and have

659
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: a guy that at the five can sort of maybe

660
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: push up a little bit more on those shooters at

661
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: the big position for Boston, Kid's done a lot of

662
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: things right like in terms of like Hardy minutes here

663
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: or you know, you know, we sort of don't see

664
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway Junior next much anymore. But Josh Green's been

665
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: really good. You talked him up a couple of times,

666
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: like he's sort of pushed the right buttons more times

667
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: than not. But like, will he you never want to

668
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: like get to it's so funny, right, You're like, we

669
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 3: gotta do what we do. We can't change like right

670
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: away our game plan. But sometimes You're like, it doesn't

671
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: work against this matchup. We need to change and will

672
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: we see maxic Lee. But we had him as a

673
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: x factor in the last series. You know, he was

674
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: coming back from the injury. We thought he was gonna

675
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: play with a shoulder injury. Looked like he couldn't shoot

676
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: the ball in that first game. But you know, he

677
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: got a little bit more burned, got a little bit

678
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: more minutes. I thought he looked a little bit better

679
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: as the series went on. I think he'll play a

680
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: part potentially if Gafford and Lively just can't get out

681
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: to the shooters.

682
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, he's gonna pull everybody out on the

683
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: offensive end. He should be able to shoot the three

684
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: because his three got better, and the MAVs can look

685
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: at it and say this is you know what the

686
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: boss is Helpic should have done is pull poorsing us

687
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: into the conference finals to get him a couple of

688
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: games warm, because Maxi Kleba right on the other side

689
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: looks damn good. He looks he can play defense. He

690
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: can be a five instead of Gafford or Life, but

691
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: he can't guard the rim like Effort and Lively.

692
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: But he can't guard.

693
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Celtics will be happy to see

694
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Cleve out there.

695
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Think so, yeah, depend he's.

696
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Been mostly planned four oddly enough since he came back.

697
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Because the MAVs love to have a rim protector out there.

698
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Cleve is not a rim protector. So if they have

699
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: him out there, I'm with you they might because they

700
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: need his mobility. It's gonna be even easier at the

701
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: rim for the Celtics.

702
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Well, give up the three or give up the two

703
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: at some point. Yeah, series X factor from the Dallas

704
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: Maverick side of things, traight.

705
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: Oh, PGE and DJ Yeah, PJ. Washington and DJ DJ

706
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: DJ Jones, Derrick Jones Jr. He should switch his name

707
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: DJ Jones sounds pretty cool.

708
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: PJ. Washington, Dereck Jones Junior. These guys have to be

710
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: awesome on both sides of the ball. They're guarding two

711
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: All stars, you could say two All NBA players if

712
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: you're including last year. But PJ. Washington is going to

713
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: be sticking Jason Tatum. He's the only guy that they

714
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: have that really matches him size wise and strength wise,

715
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: So I think that's a huge assignment for him. Derek

716
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Jones Junior as well needs to be money on Jalen Brown.

717
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: On the other side, they got to make threes offensively,

718
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: like you're saying, Pj's first in the playoffs and made

719
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: corner threes. Derek Jones Junior second in the playoffs in

720
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: corner threes. But like you mentioned with the Schumann stat

721
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: the Celtics allowed the fewest corner three pointers per game

722
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: during the playoffs, and teams they're shooting twenty four percent

723
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: against them from the corner. That's gonna be a huge battle,

724
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the battle for the corners. Marlow Avon very very exciting

725
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: to see because like I don't know, I feel like

726
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: we're hardly even talking about Jason or Jason Tatum and

727
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, and these guys should probably go for sixty

728
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: points a game combined because Tatum, he's just gonna cruise

729
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: to the points. Like this guy averaged thirty to ten

730
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference Finals. Do you remember a moment

731
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: he had felt like invisible thirty points And that's why

732
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown ended up winning the Eastern Conference Finals MVP

733
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 1: because he had all the huge moments. But Tatum just

734
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: piles up points, piles up rebounds. He does it on

735
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: both ends of the court, absolutely, and then Jalen Brown

736
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: generally has the better matchup because the first guy's garden,

737
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. We'll see how Derek Jones Junior holds up

738
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: against Jalen Brown, because Brown, I think probably has him

739
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: on the strength category. Maybe Derek Jones Junior is a

740
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: little quicker than Jalen Brown is, but it should be

741
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: an interesting chess match between those two two great wings

742
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: for the Celtics. How are the Dallas Wings gonna hold up?

743
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

744
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: And just PJ. Washington to illustrate how inconsistent he's been

745
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: from three point land in the playoffs. Thirty one percent

746
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: from deep in the first round. Okay, then I mean

747
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: red hot forty seven percent from three in the conference semifinals.

748
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: Thunder Fans don't want to hear that because he barely

749
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: missed and then it fell back down to twenty five

750
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: percent against the Wolves, like he really was struggling to

751
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: hit a three pointer. He came through with timely ones

752
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: more times than not, but twenty five percent obviously not good.

753
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 3: You're gonna live with that if you're a Celtics fan.

754
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: So like which PJ. Washington does Dallas get here in

755
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: the finals because he has to not only bring it defensively,

756
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: but he's got a like we said, corner shots, hit

757
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: the three stretch the floor. At least be a thread

758
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: out there.

759
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: What part do you think Derek Jones Junior would be? PJ.

760
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: Washington's the Chevy Tracks, THEBA is the Chevy Tracks.

761
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Derick Jones Junior is quite the high flyer.

762
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but he's also low cost. Yeah, yeah,

763
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. That's a cool looking car. Yeah,

764
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: it's eighteen thousands, very affordable. Is an affordable sports car.

765
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: I think they stopped making it, so hopefully Derek Jones

766
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: Junior isn't a Tibron, but I do I do see.

767
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one, really good.

768
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: One, Masna. I guess it's like another low cost sports car.

769
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what else is out there. We're going

770
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I drive a twenty twelve Highlander. Who's that Horford exactly

771
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: got a lot of miles on it.

772
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Do you have another X factor for the MAVs or

773
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: is it like PJ and DJ?

774
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: PJ and DJ.

775
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: They do have to be good to get Luca to

776
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: the Holy Land, which is the last few minutes. I

777
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: do think that he shouldn't have to do so much

778
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: through forty minutes just because they are going to be

779
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: looking at him as he's going to be looking at himself.

780
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: He's gonna be looking at Kyrie in the last few minutes.

781
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: So the X factor is those guys DJ Jones got him.

782
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: Get him on the ones in twos. If he guards

783
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: the point guard in the shooting guard, he's on the

784
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: ones and twos, then he hits the DJ.

785
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

786
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: That could be his future if he's a Tiberan and

787
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 4: they stopped making him anyway, what is going to happen

788
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: in clutch time? Luca Dodgic is the guy that you

789
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: know as the guy who can win, and that, honestly,

790
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: clutch time could be the mass advantage in this series

791
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: because the Celtics just didn't have to go through that. Yeah,

792
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: he won't have a Tyrese Haliburton bouncing the ball off

793
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: his own leg like he did in Round one a

794
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: couple of times or in Game one, I should say

795
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: of the conference files, that won't happen.

796
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Luca time.

797
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

798
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: So the Celtics did pick it up defensively in those

799
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: clutch time minutes, that's for sure.

800
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, some were self inflicted but by the Pacers, but

801
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: others were generated because of their defense.

802
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just interesting to see what happens in the

803
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: final few is if we get those those clutch minutes,

804
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: and Game one is going to be so important. I

805
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: think for the MAVs to get out to a good start,

806
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 4: because it is weird to look back at the Western

807
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: Conference Finals. The Timberwolves work good in Games one in

808
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 4: Games two until the last few minutes when they played

809
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: Luka Doncic and things got a lot different. So I

810
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 4: think they gain a lot of momentum, even though they're

811
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: probably confident as hell, But they'll gain even more momentum

812
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: if they just close out in Game one in Boston,

813
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 4: for sure.

814
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks stat to watch. Do you have anything else

815
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: besides these corner threes that the boys?

816
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we're scraping the bottle of the barrel here.

817
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: We already talked about offensive rebound Celtics the best defensive

818
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: rebounding team in the playoffs so far, Dallas second, and

819
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: offensive rebounding rate clutch field goal percentage. I'm with you,

820
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: that's huge because I think that coming into this series,

821
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm imagining Celtics win games where the scores ten points

822
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: or more, whatever the margin of victory is, and if

823
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: it's under five points, I would take the Mavericks Dallas

824
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: in those games. But how often are they able to

825
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: force those games? So what other stat notes did I

826
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: even make mention of here? Free throws? You kind of

827
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: mentioned it. The Celtics are the best in the league

828
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: at not fouling in the free throw rate compared to

829
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: field goal attempts. Meanwhile, the MAVs are fourth enforcing free throws.

830
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Luca obviously gets to the line a ton, as does Kyrie,

831
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: especially late in games when you know they're just trying

832
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: to hang on to these clutch time wins. So Luca

833
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: getting Jalen Brown, Drew Holliday, Derek White, whoever it may

834
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: be in foul trumble, porzingis Horford. If you see Luke

835
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: Cornette on the court, you're worried if you're a Celtics fan.

836
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: So I think not fouling is big time for the

837
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Celtics here, and that would be a great place for

838
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: the Mavericks to make up some efficiency points because you

839
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: have to imagine that the Celtics will likely outshoot the

840
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Mavericks from three. So if you're gonna get the extra

841
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: points somewhere. Maybe it's at the line for Dallas.

842
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: Yep. Do you have anything else?

843
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: Well, the Celtics offense, like you're talking about, is very good, obviously,

844
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: but in clutch time there is the question will they

845
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: close it out. To have a good offense, they got

846
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 4: to be driving the ball.

847
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Obviously.

848
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: They can't just rely on threes the entire time, even

849
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: though they're very good at threes, but they do have

850
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: to get to the rim. So I am wondering how

851
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: good the MAVs will be able to defend the rim

852
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 4: because you mentioned it earlier tray. In the Western Conference Finals,

853
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: they were damn good. Gafford and Lively were awesome. Fifty

854
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 4: six point five percent at deterring that's what opponent shot

855
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: within five feet. So if that's able to happen again,

856
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: it's that's just a bad sign for the Celtics in

857
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: the way they're going to close games. So defending the

858
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 4: rim is important, and whether or not Lively and Gafford

859
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: can be back there enough. That's really important is how

860
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: they guard, you know, beyond mid range and three point

861
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 4: line and what they're doing out there. So, yeah, guarding

862
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 4: the rim.

863
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Let's get into our predictions and any other storylines that

864
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: you want to bring up. The Celtics are favorites to

865
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: win this series last I checked minus two to two

866
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: five Mavericks plus one eighty, Tatum Finals MVP favorite minus

867
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: one thirty five, Luca plus one ninety, jail and Brown

868
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 3: plus five fifty and Boston is I think a six

869
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite in Game one on Thursday night.

870
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: Where do you want to start? TK? Where are you

871
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: leaning in this? You've been a big Mavericks supporter throughout

872
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: the postseason, but are the Celtics a little too much,

873
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: especially with k kpback? You think every series is a

874
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: different series.

875
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

876
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: Denver beat the Lakers didn't mean they could beat the Timberwolves.

877
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Timberwolves beat the Nuggets didn't mean they could beat Dallas.

878
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: Dallas beat Minnesota. Does it mean they can beat Boston?

879
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: Maybe not. I do think that the MAVs will win

880
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Game one. Wow on the road.

881
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: Wow, Jason Kidd never does that.

882
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: Back to back game one wins. For Jason and the kids,

883
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty cool to see. But I just think that,

884
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, they've been going through it in the Western Conference,

885
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: whereas I really feel like the Celtics have had one

886
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: real playoff series so far. The one against the Pacers

887
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: was awesome, but felt like a first round playoff matchup

888
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: if we're being quite honest here. They're all also going

889
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: to have to reintegrate Kristaps Porzingis after a long, long layoff,

890
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: and like we've mentioned a billion times, the guy has

891
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility for the Celtics team. It's best

892
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: player versus best team. Best player wins a lot, but

893
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: also another NBA addage, you gotta lose to win. The

894
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Celtics have lost a lot of times trying to get

895
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: over the humpy, just like the Edmonton Oilers. Going back

896
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: to the Stanley Cup Final, I'm taking Edmonton in the

897
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: NHL and I'm taking the Boston Celtics in seven games.

898
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay we go in the distance?

899
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas, the Dallas Stars did not get there.

900
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Huh.

901
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: They did not get to the NHL final. Don't call

902
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: me finals, man. I love talking final versus finals.

903
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 3: I just love it.

904
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: I just absolutely love it. I am also taking the

905
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics. I do think their finals experience from a

906
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: couple of years matters. This is the best team in

907
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: the Tatum Brown era, and they're just digging to get

908
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: back to the finals because they've screwed up, and I

909
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: think the fact that they've been there is going to

910
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 4: help them out. Jason Datum was not good in those finals,

911
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: so I think he's been yearning to get back there.

912
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: He was shooting thirty six point seven percent from the

913
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: floor in that series. He hit lots of threes, but

914
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: a forty eight percent true shooting that ain't good. And

915
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: following it up, they lost to the my Heat yes

916
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: last year in those seven games where they didn't close

917
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: it out very well obviously, So I think they're just

918
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: waiting for another situation here to get it to the finals.

919
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: And I know we all talk about, yes, the best

920
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: player is definitely on that other side. Luca is definitely

921
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: the best player. You can debate who's the one two Kyrie. Okay,

922
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: they've got the best two players over Tatum and Brown,

923
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: but I think the overqualified role players are important. They

924
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: have the best three, four five in this series by far.

925
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: I think that's important because Tantam Brown are going to

926
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: be damn good. So I'm taking the Celtics and six,

927
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, But at all together the Celtics lineup

928
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: is very very very good.

929
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we got Celtics and seven Celtics and six

930
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: here's what we know. There's gonna be a whole bunch

931
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: of three pointers. It's gonna be very important. And this

932
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: is what I actually like Dallas. I mean, you're right,

933
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: Tray more times than not, you feel like the Celtics

934
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: will attempt more and hit more. But at least Dallas

935
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: is one of like the league leaders in both of

936
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: those categories as well. Boston led the league in makes

937
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: sixteen and a half this season, Dallas fourteen point six.

938
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: That was third, so that's not a huge difference. And

939
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: they're right there one to two in three point attempts.

940
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Boston won Dallas two. So at Lake, you know, in

941
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: theory that can maybe sort of keep that gap close,

942
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: and that will be important. I already brought up the

943
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: Kyrie thing. I think he's the bell Weather here for

944
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: this Dallas Mavericks. I think if they can shut him down,

945
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: slow him down, then I think Boston wins. But Kyrie

946
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: was gaining steam as this thing went on here. He's

947
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: got the revenge factor there in Boston. That's gonna be

948
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: a story which will be fun to track. And we

949
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: know this. They have the best player in the series

950
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: and that already cost the Celtics a title in twenty

951
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: twenty two when Steph Curry was the best player in

952
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: the series. Was huge at times in the series and

953
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: helped Golden State get that one. I think it's gonna

954
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: happen again. I'm gonna go with Dallas, but I'm gonna

955
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: go seven games. I'm gonna go Mavericks winning on the

956
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: road in Boston, where, for whatever reason, both these teams

957
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: not juggernauts at home, incredible on the road. So I'm

958
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: going I'm gonna go Luca here and he gets his

959
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: first championship at the age of what twenty five, He's already.

960
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Hitting two game winners in his career against the Celtics.

961
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Oh health in Dallas, though.

962
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: Great call on Celtics wins in the series. Feel like

963
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: they're gonna be fifteen to sixteen points wins, and if

964
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: Dallas the wins maybe they pick up will be those

965
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: the closer variety and that will be a entertaining game.

966
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: So I'll go Mavericks and seven. We got Celtics and

967
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: six Celtics and seven. Let's hear from you, we.

968
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Got a pull up. Yeah, uh, fifty four percent of

969
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: people the leading vote getter. So I broke this down

970
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: in either the Beantown Boys four or five, six or seven,

971
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Dudes either four, five, six and seven and fifty

972
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: four percent voting.

973
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: For Well, people don't like the Boston Celtics. I think

974
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: more people are gonna be cheering for Dallas. I think

975
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Dallas six or seven.

976
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: That's the leading vote att fifty four percent, twenty seven percent,

977
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: say the Beantown Boys in six or seven, then Dallas

978
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: four or five eleven percent, Beantown eight percent, four or five.

979
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: So it breaks down to sixty five thirty five going

980
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: for the maps.

981
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: And do you think a big part of the I mean, look,

982
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean people are gonna predict how they want. But

983
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: I feel like that baked into that is people don't

984
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: want Boston to win there eighteenth banner. Maybe they don't

985
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know.

986
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: I just think they've been watching the Celtics team come

987
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: up short for seven years straight.

988
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a big part of it. I do

989
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: think what's better.

990
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: Than twenty twenty two going up against the Golden State

991
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: Warriors is that the Celtics have had lots of rest

992
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: and have chilled out because in that playoffs they came

993
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: off to seven game series back to back in the

994
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: conference finals and the second round, and they got tired,

995
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 4: and tam got tired, and they had fourth quarter blow

996
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: They just they fell apart in fourth quarters against the

997
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: Golden State Wars when they were up to one, they

998
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: fell apart. And will that happen again. I think the

999
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: experience helps.

1000
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: They're a better team than twenty twenty two. It's a

1001
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: better roster, obviously, it helps the experience. I'm just going

1002
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: for sure on they got Luca and had stuff and

1003
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: that was enough. Sometimes it's enough. I'm sorry it is.

1004
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: But Kyrie's again the thing. Lucas attempting to become the

1005
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: first scoring champion to win a title in the same

1006
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 3: season since Shack did it with the Lakers in two thousand.

1007
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: Overall scoring champions are eleven and eight in the NBA finals,

1008
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: Jordan accounts for six of those eleven wins. That's pretty good,

1009
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: so we'll see if Luca can become the first since

1010
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: Shack to do it in two thousand. Obviously led the

1011
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: league in scoring, all right, Well to your predictions, everyone.

1012
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: You already chimed in on the poll, but podcast listeners

1013
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: tweet at us at no dunks anchor jump into the

1014
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: YouTube comments and break it down for us before we go.

1015
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night.

1016
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Tweet O and I Wow, you got a couple of

1017
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: for you here.

1018
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 3: First one from at Piston Powered. That last paragraph is brutal.

1019
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: Read the tweet and we've got the press release of

1020
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: the Pistons announcing their departure of general manager Troy Weaver.

1021
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: So you see it there. You know Troy was great,

1022
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 3: he did all this And you get to that last

1023
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: paragraph and it reads his notable we're talking Troy Weaver.

1024
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: His notable trade and free agent acquisitions included Simone Fontechio

1025
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: and Quinton Grimes at the postseason's trade deadline, along with

1026
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: Jeremy Grant twenty twenty sign in trade, Kelly olynok In

1027
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: twenty one, and Corey Joseph trade with Sacramento. No, look,

1028
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: we love Fontechio, we love a couple of these guys.

1029
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: But that's a that's a rough last paragraph. I have

1030
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: to agree with Piston Power for the Troy Weaver experience.

1031
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: That's strange.

1032
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: Why even include man and why include the second part

1033
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: of that last paragraph, Simoni fone on Quinton Grimes.

1034
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, Okay, come on, you don't need to know.

1035
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: You know, the second round for Somony find Tech Yo

1036
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: not bad? Yeah, anyways, why why I know?

1037
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant was Okay, he wanted to go there.

1038
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Sure it was good.

1039
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, I would have to.

1040
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Check the stats. But Troy Weaver might be the worst

1041
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: GM that's ever been in the NBA. It's hard to say,

1042
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: but he had a twenty three percent win percentage with

1043
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: the Pistons when he got there. They won twenty seven

1044
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: percent of games. They got worse every year.

1045
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Right right, right, right?

1046
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was bad, yep, But people told.

1047
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: Me they were a playoff contender multiple years during his run.

1048
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: Got insane stuff.

1049
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: He got excited, didn't we I mean, they kept drafting

1050
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: and you saw the talent, and then money comes in.

1051
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, here we go. And instead they

1052
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: were the worst team of all time almost. So Troy

1053
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: Weaver is gone. By the way, Mike Brown got paid.

1054
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.

1055
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: He was in the running. The Kings were in the

1056
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: running for worst of the Week on Friday.

1057
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Pay him three for thirty. Yeah, ten mil.

1058
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: No, it was like eight and a half mil because

1059
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: of the extension they did, which is right, Like, he's

1060
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: not a ten million a year coach. Those are the

1061
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: championship coaches. It's not a seven million dollar a year

1062
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: coach because he's not a beginner. He's in the middle.

1063
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: But he's just an average coach.

1064
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: The optics average salary say three for thirty for sure,

1065
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 3: Warren Warren Legarry wants to see that. That's right and

1066
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: that looks good, you know, Okay, ten mil. There we go.

1067
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: That's the price for you know, a good coach in

1068
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: the NBA, feels like at this point.

1069
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: So so what do they do?

1070
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: So it's eight and a half million for the two

1071
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: years following next year?

1072
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think he's getting a raise on he

1074
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: was like what four and a half million or something

1075
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: going into next season, which was gonna be his last season.

1076
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's weird. Yeah, it's they're doing a

1078
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: good job of winning. The headlines, Yeah, like he's getting

1079
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: paid like the guys who are good.

1080
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I read is the headlines and it

1081
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: said three for thirty. That's all Brown gets.

1082
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 4: Four and a half million rays on his contract next year.

1083
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: That's sneaky.

1084
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: Very man, got you man, all right, But I've got

1085
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: another tweet, another tweet for you.

1086
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: I shout out to Trajan Lagnan, who's taken over it. Sure,

1087
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: come on and give him some love taking over Detroit's

1088
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 4: front office. The best ball of operations.

1089
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. That's got to be better.

1090
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: Apparently he's having a talk with Monty Williams. See if

1091
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: he's going to be the coach.

1092
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: What are they talking about?

1093
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: So I just read he's like, please fire me. I

1094
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: didn't want this job anyway. I'll take the payoff.

1095
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: Hold on, I get to keep the money at right.

1096
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: So I saw right before jumping in here. All right,

1097
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: tweet number.

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00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Two killing everybody in the front office.

1099
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: At Andrew D. Bailey tweeting over the weekend. Which NBA

1100
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: player do you guarantee gets traded this summer? Few answers.

1101
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: I'll check out you guys. I saw in the comments.

1102
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: Some popular responses were Zach Lavine, uh, the the asking

1103
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: price has gone down? Apparently, brandon Ingram, Darius Carlin, Josh Giddy,

1104
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway, Junior, John Collins. John Collins made me laugh.

1105
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: I was God they did with this guy. It's gonna

1106
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: be traded forever. I mean trade rumors forever. But do

1107
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: you have another name that you think is a guarantee

1108
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: to be traded this summer?

1109
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1110
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: That John Collins one is interesting because Utah Jazz as

1111
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: a general team are interesting because in the Western Conference,

1112
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: everybody's just getting better, getting stronger. Jim Rant's gonna play

1113
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: basketball next year. Victor woman Yam was going to play

1114
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 4: basketball next year. So how the heck are the Utah

1115
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: Jazz going to make the playoffs? Isn't it smart to

1116
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: just trade Johnny Lowry even possibly Colin Sexton. They've got

1117
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 4: a lot of guys they could trade, that's for sure.

1118
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 4: But I do think the guarantee in the West stand there.

1119
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 4: It's Brandon Ingram is trying to get something for him

1120
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 4: and just build a team around Zion Wimson really and

1121
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: and CJ. McCollen will get more shot opportunities, hopefully he

1122
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: gets better just because of that to try and improve.

1123
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 4: But they are going to do something. If you believe

1124
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: what David Griffin said as he left, he said, it's

1125
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: time to change something. Why would you trade You're not

1126
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: going to get a ton for cg mcollen. You're not

1127
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: trading Zion Wimson. Brandon Ingram makes the most sense, and

1128
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: to get something good for him becau He's a damn

1129
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: good player, So okay, yeah, that makes that makes logical sense.

1130
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: B I what do you got, Ingram? The great choice?

1131
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: Is it cheating that take a Hawk or a Calve.

1132
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't know who it's gonna be. There's no way

1133
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: that Trey Young and de Jontay Murray at the starting

1134
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: back curn right for Atlanta at the start of next season.

1135
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: There's no way that Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland are

1136
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: the starting backcourt for the Cleveland Cavaliers. I don't know

1137
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: which one of those two it's gonna be. I would

1138
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: rather if I'm both teams, I would rather keep the

1139
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: All Star, like the All NBA guy personally, but also

1140
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: you trade that guy, you get more back, which is

1141
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: a very interesting in particular for the Atlanta Hawks, Like

1142
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty reasonable that they could trade Trey Young, get

1143
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: back some of these picks that they owe to the

1144
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs, or at least replacements for it, go

1145
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: into the season with whatever they get in that trade,

1146
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: plus de Jante Murray plus whoever they take it number

1147
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: one plus whatever. They can pick up a veteran guys

1148
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: and make a run at like a play in tournament.

1149
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Not exciting, but they can be right in the middle

1150
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: of the pack, just like the Hawks always are. If

1151
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: you want me to choose a guy officially to get traded,

1152
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: I guess it's Darius Garland. Well, he might be an

1153
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon type. You know, we're always talking about a

1154
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: little over taxed than his spot goes to another place

1155
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: and looks awesome. Imagine him playing next to Wemby, be great.

1156
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: That's who the Spurs should really go after it. I'd

1157
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: rather have him on the San Antonio than Treyo than

1158
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Trey Young.

1159
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, let's hear from you guys, call

1160
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: your shot. Who's going to be traded this summer? You

1161
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: know we'll be breaking it down here from the Classic Factory.

1162
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: We'll call it there though. Here for today's podcast, our

1163
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 3: NBA Finals preview. We got MAVs in seven, we got

1164
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 3: Celtics and six Celtics and seven. We expect a long series.

1165
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: But let's hear your predictions, your X factors, storylines, everything

1166
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: else you're watching in the NBA Finals, which tips on Thursday.

1167
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it's right around the corner or

1168
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: too far away for you? Still?

1169
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1170
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: Maybe a day too much?

1171
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: I thought it should have started last night.

1172
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: That would have been nice.

1173
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

1174
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: What's not until Thursday? Man? What do you think?

1175
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Tasks?

1176
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do with your time?

1177
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at game seven and that's three weeks away, essentially.

1178
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: I might I'm excited about time off obviously in the evenings.

1179
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: Right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna.

1180
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: Be here talking about basketball every day because we can.

1181
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: And we're not just gonna make up stories like other media.

1182
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum sure to hug Jayleen Brown and we're not

1183
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: gonna do that. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna

1184
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: talk about other stuff going on in basketball. There's enough

1185
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: talk about basketball. But evenings are free. That's nice. That's

1186
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: gotta be honest.

1187
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: And what the Stanley Cup doesn't start till Saturday, June tenth? Yeah,

1188
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: what's going on?

1189
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: Man?

1190
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: They rest, they want them fully healthy.

1191
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Saturday. If that's what it is Saturday.

1192
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm reading this incorrectly.

1193
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: I don't I don't find that. You're right.

1194
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: It is weird the way they have to set up

1195
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: June eighth, man, that is that's good.

1196
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: It is odd. Yeah.

1197
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: The ticker, the ticker on the top of the NHL

1198
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 4: dot com site always.

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00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Message it's very weird.

1200
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: It is.

1201
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Well we're we're pumped for both finals here

1202
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: in the Classic Factory podcast listeners, you'll hear from us

1203
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: on Wednesday, but join us tomorrow ten am in you

1204
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Excuse me, we don't even know what we're

1205
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: gonna do tomorrow morning, but we're gonna have some fun

1206
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: here in the Classic Factory, so we will see you then.

1207
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: Tell then, Clipper bros.

1208
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1209
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: Love you guys.

1210
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: Awesome, thanks for joining us.

1211
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: I remember the Stanley Cup Final starts on Saturday, Game

1212
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 4: one in Florida. They play in a Merint Bank Arena.

1213
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: What is that in Miami. No, it's not in Miami,

1214
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 4: it's Miami Metropolitan Area.

1215
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: It's up the coast.

1216
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 4: It is up the coast of Fort Lauderdale, which is

1217
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: a good side and a good thing. Will because I

1218
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 4: wanted to say we're going down for Game one. It's

1219
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: closer than Miami it is. How about that it's only

1220
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 4: eight hours.

1221
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: I hate to correct you too. You did say Stanley

1222
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: Cup Finals. No I did not, Yes you did, Yes

1223
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: you did, Yes you did. I heard that S. I

1224
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: heard that S run.

1225
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: It back rack. You got one podcast that you perget

1226
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: Bracing eight people