1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Talking to Death is released every Friday and brought to 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: you absolutely free. But if you want ad free listening 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: and exclusive bonuses, subscribe to Tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus dot 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: com or on Apple Podcasts. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: Talking to Death is a production of tenderfoot TV and 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: iHeart Podcasts. Listener discretion is advised. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Talking to Death. This week, we have 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: a very fun guest. A host of a true crime podcast, 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: Danny Murphy is both a podcaster and a comedian. He's 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: the host of Not Another True Crime podcast, where he 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: and his co host banter on both current and old 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: true crime cases. He also hosts another podcast for The 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: New York Post called Virtual Realities, where he covers the 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: latest and celebrity gossip and entertainment news. His ability to 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: connect with guests and listeners alike has garnered him a 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: loyal following and solidified his reputation as a talented entertainer 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: and insightful commentator. This episode is a really fun one 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 3: and you don't want to miss it. Let's jump into 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: it this week. Danny Murphy, I do like to talk 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: a lot. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: You talk so much too, I know, but this is 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: a fun I'm excitingly. 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: The difference is that it exhausts the hell out of me. 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: At some point, you do get to that's almost where 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: like the fun starts, because you start to like lose 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: your mind a little bit, right, and then when you 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: forget what you say. Hopefully for the most time, it's great, 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: but you're you have to be an extrovert. I do 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: like to be extrovert, yes, okay, but then it gets 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: to a certain point. But then I have my limit 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: and then I just immediately calling you, like, I don't 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: try to push it past to what's that test? 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Is the I'm an extroverted introvert? Is what I've just 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: the I n FP wait or I don't know. 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: But I feel like every person who takes that test 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: cats that answer, And I think it's just because you're 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: probably right, because people are like, no, I like friends, 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: what I like to sleep? 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was just lazy. 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: I know, no exactly, it's just. 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Like oh, yeah, like I want to do it, but 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: like I can't because like my personality. 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're flaking on that. Yeah, you're like no, 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: a doctor told me I can't. 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about why you like 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: talking about true crime. Why do you like it so much? 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: I am fascinated? Well, I feel and with my podcast 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: not on the True Crime Podcast with Sarah, we've changed 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: this year into talking more about where because our interest 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: has kind of grown together in a different way, because 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: I do like we've really started in like a pop 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: culture space and then we fell into true crime just 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: because it's so captivating the stories and all the details 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: and like the emotions that come with it. It's really 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: hard not to like hear a story and not have 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: it leave an imprint on you. 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: And then from there we started to get to a 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: point but I feel like this must be so hard 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: for you, we're after a while. For us, it really 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: just like took a toll on us. 62 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about that. 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were just kind of like every because 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: we we would do different cases every week, like a 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: weekly podcast of us talking about it and unpacking it, 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: and then after and so many of the ones that 67 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: get covered, a lot of them are either unanswered or 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: things there's just all that information or it's so much 69 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: of it because we're not investigating diving deep into them 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: to kind of just telling our audience what is the 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: situation with them. 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: It's mostly just a sad tale. 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a sad tale of being like all right, 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: so there's no answers or this is where a system 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: failed somebody and then thanks for listening, right, And then 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: it kind of just got to a point where I 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: was just like, are you feeling like burnt out in 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: an emotional way? And she was like yeah, And just 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: because we were getting to a point where because like 80 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: we love what you've been doing so much of like 81 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: going and like specializing in things and helping people out 82 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: and just bringing awareness to it, where we were like, 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: we're not doing that, and but we're talking every week. 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: So we've kind of shifted into more like scams and 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: white collar crimes and everything like it, because they're like 86 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: for those at least, we're kind of like, okay, well, 87 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: like rich people just got fucked up and. 88 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Then like there's still and there's still real rich and 89 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: fuck them anyways. 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 91 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: So that's kind of what we've been like, uh, going 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: into and then kind of realizing like where are forte on, 93 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Like with people with fingers on the pulse coming to 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: play where it's like more newsier updates and things like that, 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: because we're like we're giving people information because like maybe 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: our audience isn't going to like CNN our NBC news 97 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: every day or every week, but we're checking that stuff 98 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: out and kind of making it digestible for them in 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: a way where we both feel good about the final 100 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: product we put out, but also like are not drained. 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: At the end of it. It's it's interesting that you 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: mentioned the whole burnout sort of aspect of talking about 103 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: crimes like that all the time. I feel like, you know, 104 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: doing up and vanished and doing the investigative stuff too. 105 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: You you get the same thing, right, And I mean, 106 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Mike here has been on most of these journeys with 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: me at this point, and you kind of eventually just 108 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: sort of lose yourself in it. And the way that 109 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: we stay sane is just totally dark gallows humor type 110 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: shit where it's like it's so bad to us in 111 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: this not to us like hard but bad stuff all around. 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: Oh that it's just you got to say something to 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: yourself or you're gonna lose your mind. 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: I feel that is just like my that's when like 115 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: my coping mechanism to my entire life just like laughing 116 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: at like I like you're just like, well everything is 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: awful and a tow where I'm like, well I can either 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: laugh or cry, and like nothing changes after that. So 119 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: I guess I'll have a good time and then I'll 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: laugh until I cry. I'll just cry myself to sleep 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: at night. 122 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Were you like this in high school? You like you've 123 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: been the same person your whole I have, for better 124 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: or for words, I have not changed. Okay, I bet 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: you look this. I bet your first grade yearbook picture 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: looks like your same face and you were probably saying 127 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the same shit. 128 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: I would say, same phase, ad lie like maybe seventy 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: five pounds and a lot of acts. 130 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: In first grade. 131 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe first grade. Actually I looked amazing. I don't 132 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: know what my diet was. 133 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: If I got my first grade buddy back. 134 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: The way, Like I'm like, should I go back to lunchables? 135 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: Like I feel like they're so processed? 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: But maybe I never didn't go away from lunchables as 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: an adult they're kind of cooler. 138 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: Oh I don't cook, but I just I just even 139 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: increasingly on diets. So I don't know if they like 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: correlate with on my dieting, but that I feel like 141 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: first grade me was mainly like I feel like also 142 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: because I loved like Whenever I was like with like kids, 143 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: I'd be like, these people are kind of boring as shit, 144 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: so I always want to talk to like the teachers. Yeah, 145 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: like the secretary and. 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: I will Yeah, the teachers always loved you. Yes, they 147 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: hated my ass. I was like weird enough for They're 148 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: like either they'd love me or they're like look out 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: for that one. And I'm like, I'm not one of those, 150 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, but. 151 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I yet because I'd be like, oh, you're still getting 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: a C, but you have a heart of goal. 153 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: But that was the one who was like grading papers 154 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: for the teacher. No, no, no, because you ever have that? 155 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: Because we I had that, and I'm not pretty sure 156 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: they fucked around on my. 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: Shit like they a kid did it. 158 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: She would like she had there was like two pits 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeh yeah, and they were grading papers. 160 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: No. 161 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I was like, are you allowed to do that? 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know they're creating papers? Are sitting up? 163 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: I still passed fourth grade or whatever it was. 164 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: When I was the thing, I was like, I have a 165 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: college or grade. No one asked me for it once, 166 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: so like why did I go to school, but no, 167 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: I like would just like due to the teachers, I'd 168 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: be like I would just be so nosey, being like, 169 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: so what do you do after school? Or like so 170 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: like who's your friends? Like I would just be really 171 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: inquisitive in that way. And it was also bad because 172 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: like I was in like middle school in like six 173 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: and six and seventh grade. It was like two thousand 174 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: and six, two thousand and seven, so like teachers had 175 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: like Facebook, so I'd be would like find their facebooks 176 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: and be like, oh my god, your soul like type 177 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: of stuff like that, which. 178 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Is very I enjoy watching all your stuff on social media. 179 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: You're always cracking me up. I love the thing that 180 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: you do with the drink. It's so stupid that it's 181 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: and it's so fucking funny that it gets me every 182 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: single time. Like I feel like those are probably always 183 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: inspired by some true story or feel like I remember 184 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: that Margarita or whatever it was. 185 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: It's like, I'm like, because that's where it's the thing, 186 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: like with the dark humor, just like them making fun 187 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: of myself so much. I feel where I'm like, I 188 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: because I think you can go in a few directions 189 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: where people have like such pride of themselves where they 190 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: want to be like an impenetrable force field. But I'm 191 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I want to be the opposite, where 192 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just like so fucking stupid, and I 193 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: like almost at the point where I don't care if 194 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: someone like insults. I'm like, I'm like, well I'll live 195 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: like so then I just feel like it's a fun 196 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: way to make fun of myself and also kind of 197 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: engage in a way just to be a little take 198 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: everything a little less seriously, which is nice. 199 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: Did you ever see yourself being a podcaster professionally in 200 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: any capacity at all or is this something you wanted 201 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: to do or did you end up here? I mean, 202 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: you're great at I was curious. 203 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I feel I always wanted to be 204 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: like a conversationalist type person and like host and stuff 205 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: like that, ever since I was kind of like younger 206 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: and in high school, in college and then it was 207 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: just always so hard where I feel like because when 208 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: I was even like in college and the podcasting wasn't 209 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: only like nobody, it wasn't like a word like we 210 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: weren't learning at it. 211 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't cool. 212 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't cool. No, And I feel like so much 213 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: of it was like podcasts like news or random stuff 214 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: that I was like, this feels like very like stuff 215 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand, Like I'm not smart enough to do this, yeah, exactly, 216 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: And I'm like I don't know how anything works, Like 217 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: my brain shuts off at the second of anything like that. 218 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: So I like, I'm like, I have no skills for 219 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: any of it. But then I got like an internship 220 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: at Serious XM and I started to like do more 221 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: talking on microphones there, which really made me like, oh, 222 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: I love like the formative radio, but that's always like 223 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: such a tricky beast now because like podcasting is kind 224 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: of making its own lane as that. So right, Yeah, 225 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: So then I kind of like fell into when I 226 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: realized what podcasting was doing, I was like, oh, I 227 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: really do want to do that, but I don't know 228 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: how to do it. So then I just kind of 229 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 2: like clawed my way to finding out how to do that. 230 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing though. That's I mean, I ended up 231 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: here the same way. I just decided to do something 232 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: different one time, and if it didn't work, I was 233 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna do something again. I was gonna do something else. 234 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: And you know, I always had this weird imposter syndrome 235 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: for a long time. I've shaken it off for the 236 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: most part, but not entirely. Because I was looking at 237 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: radio people and people who did podcasts, like this is 238 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: their lane, they do this. I identified as this filmmaker person. 239 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Not that I had any big director of credits under 240 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: my name, but like that's just how I viewed myself. 241 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: And I felt like I was just pretending or lying 242 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: if I was just like, oh, I do this now. 243 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: So I was very open about that, and like even 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: from episode one, because I was like, hey, like I'm 245 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: not like I am who I am, but anyways, I 246 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: am doing this no exactly. 247 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: And I feel that's almost a night like a good 248 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: because I of course imposter syndrome is just everywhere, but 249 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: so much of it. I think what you were just 250 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: saying it comes from like a respect of the people. 251 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Before you doing it. It was really more of that yeah, where. 252 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: You kind of want to be like, oh fuck, I'm 253 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: like if they like, I don't want them to think 254 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: that I'm like them. And what helped me with that 255 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: is like because I but very recently I was inspired 256 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: because I went to see Beyonce's Renaissance tour. Twice. You 257 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: had to wear Beyonce's Renaissance tour. 258 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, was it amazing or fucking really amazing? 259 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: It was so fucking amazing. 260 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 261 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Then I was just and it shook my imposters them 262 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: a little. 263 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: You went twice, you've playing around, not playing around two 264 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: days in a rouw. 265 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, first because I went, I flew across the country 266 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: for it to go in LA because I putn't in 267 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: her New York dates and my friend got us like 268 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 2: for her birthday. Just like the first day is we 269 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: could get like nose nose nose bleeds, and I kind 270 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: of was in a moment, was like, oh, we're flying 271 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: across the country, guys, I'm gonna have to go on 272 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: to a master and see how we can elevate. I 273 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: was like, how would Beyonce see herself? So then I 274 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: got us floor seats, so we got to experience it 275 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: from both sides. 276 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Damn, very beautiful. Falled out like that, You're like, all right, cool, 277 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: we're doing it for real. Yes. 278 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: But then after that, when I was watching, I was like, well, 279 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: what if I want beyond say never to be embarrassed 280 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: of me if she does not know who I am, 281 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: but I would be like, so that's where I went 282 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: after it. I bought a new Parason glasses because she 283 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: has that brand, and I was like, okay, and then 284 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: it kind of makes me. 285 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Going just stressed up, like Beyonce. 286 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Not the latex, I'm right, but like he's gonna give Beyonce. 287 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll try to be like, you know, or one 288 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: eighth of her, because I guess dudes do that at 289 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: football games, they're wearing like damn near an entire uniform, 290 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: like the. 291 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: The field and they're like drunk. I'm like, this is sad. 292 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: You know what annoys me, which shouldn't annoy me as 293 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: much as it does, is if you go to a 294 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: sporting event let's just say the Brooklyn Nets, since we're 295 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: close to that, and they're wearing like a Dallas Cowboys uniform, 296 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: like like they're just wearing something with a sport on it. 297 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, and that's fun. Do whatever you want to do. 298 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: But I'm like, why are you Why are you generalizing? 299 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: It was I was amazing, We're going to sport you. 300 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: But let's just let's where let's wear sports stuff. 301 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: I could say, I could feel because I know no 302 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: sports teams. If someone invited me to go to a 303 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: game that, how do I dress the part? 304 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: I do this one thing that says yeah, I'm like, hey, 305 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: no they don't have that team anymore because it was 306 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: a bad name, no cool looking shirt. But yeah, you 307 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: can't wear that anymore ironic. Yeah, like what did you 308 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: think about it? Yeah? 309 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Wait, are you a bit like are you big sports person? 310 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not like a huge sports person, but 311 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: growing up I was an Atlanta sports guy. Watched the 312 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons and the Hawks. 313 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Are you a shouting at the screen type of person? 314 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Is that? 315 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: Like? 316 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: Because where do you let out your like, your your 317 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: feelings and vibes Because a lot of good people I 318 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: know will shout at a screen once every Sunday for 319 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: two hours. 320 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Then I met that I figured out, actually I just 321 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: keep it all bottled in forever carbonation. Yeah, so I 322 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: want I think I used to be the guy who 323 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: was like what the fuck? Man, I'm so just defeated 324 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: at this point. Once the Falcons lost that Super Bowl, 325 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: which even if you don't even know sports, you know 326 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I you know, boohoo me. But 327 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: like I went through Oh wow, we won for the 328 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: first time, because there's no way they're coming it would 329 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: be I looked, I was like looking on wicked, feel 330 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: like this would be a record. Well it was so, 331 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: and we've like sucked ever since. And that's not just 332 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: a casual sports guy. Yeah, let's go catch a game. 333 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: But now you can look, you had that beautiful moment. 334 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Well was it what they want? 335 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Or didn't win? 336 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, you're kidding me, you said every person, not 337 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: even a sports or no, And I'm just okay, well. 338 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying. 339 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: In the same year as that, it was Tom it 340 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: was the Patriots versus the Falcon Super Bowl. We were 341 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: up twenty eight to three with like three minutes left 342 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and so like, mathematically it was 343 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: the closest to him. Everything had to go right. So 344 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: I was like, we got this. And then it was 345 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: just the craziest, Like, if you were a Patriots fan, 346 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: you've been. 347 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Like this, you would have left already. 348 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: This is note or you left or you've been like 349 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: this is amazing. Are we gonna do this? And I 350 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they're going to do this anyways, 351 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm not that deep into sports because this is not 352 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: worth my emotion. 353 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: And also it's also you just have to love last 354 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: laugh Giselle and him divorced. I mean, he's looking interesting 355 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: in Miami. If you're fine, everyone's fine. 356 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's fine, yeah and. 357 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: Everyone else because like now it's like he tried, because 358 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: he kept trying to chase that. 359 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: If Tom Brady d MD was like, yo, like let's hang, 360 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I would I would, yeah, like let's go, like sorry 361 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: for everything going on with Tom Brady. Yeah, I don't. 362 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to know what if he's like 363 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: botoxing because his face is looking very different this time, 364 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: and I love, I love, like just stop procedures, but 365 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: yes he did stop. 366 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Ah, have you done any procedures? Is that? Are you 367 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: allowed to ask that question? 368 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? I haven't. I'm just so curious about it, but 369 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't want to. I haven't, Okay, 370 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: I am always so curious about it, and people who 371 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: I know get like a boatox something of that. 372 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do look so good, But that would. 373 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Be as far as I would go. Because my brother's 374 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: a doctor and he's very against anybody getting elective surgeries 375 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: right or against. 376 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: He's he's just like, let's get a scar on your 377 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: face and you're getting rid of it or something. 378 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: Because then that's like less. It's more like the elective 379 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: surgery where it's like I want like my lips to 380 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: be bicker, or like I was on the Gals where 381 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: he's like it's going, it's a it's a surgery, because 382 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: I feel people forget that that's also a procedure. But 383 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: with that to say, I would be very curious about 384 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: like a boat talks moment. 385 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I would totally entertain the boatox thing. And this is 386 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm such a caveman that I wish that there was 387 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: just a sexier app that's like that was like boatox 388 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: for dudes, Like not that it needs to be necessarily 389 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: catered to me, just like I don't understand it. It's 390 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: confusing because then it's like you get like it's down 391 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: for us because like they're I'm willing to spend some 392 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: money if I knew what the hell was going on. 393 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: My favorite thing is to spend money. I don't really 394 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: understand a full thing off. 395 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: Right that I think spend money on that I don't 396 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: know what it is. Yeah, that also. 397 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: Is a good market because I feel it's always like 398 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: my favorite is now like all the vitamins for men 399 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: and everything, which is or like that's what when you 400 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: look at. 401 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: The back of the kind of cool. It can't be 402 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: like dude white. It's like, yeah, it's got to be 403 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: like higher brow that feels like you don't want like 404 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: bro men's skincare vibes. But yeah, but like we know 405 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: what wrinkles guys get or whatever and like and you 406 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: can just hit the app and your face is diment. 407 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: Wait, that's exactly it would be. Like the commercial would 408 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: be like a guy like doing lawn work in the 409 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: sun and it's just like a little wrinkles there and. 410 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Aging make it so accessive every uncle is doing it everywhere. 411 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: I would actually that'd be very fun. 412 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: Because you do have a true crime podcast called not 413 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Another True Crime Podcast. Also, I'm pretty sure I understand 414 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: why it's called that, but can you tell me why 415 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: it's called it. 416 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: It's called there for a few reasons. One is that 417 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: it's not an like the irony of there's so many 418 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: juecin podcasts out there. But also we're not another one 419 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: because kind of like I was saying, we're not diving 420 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: super super deep into all the stuff that you might 421 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: want to know. We wanted to put that almost as 422 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: a disclaimer to people listening, because like, as people right now, 423 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: I don't have like the good like sixteen minutes voice 424 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: of anything like that, and Sarah doesn't either. So we're 425 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: kind of talking and like we'll start about our day 426 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: and everything, then go into everything and they're like, why 427 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: are you bullshitting about their day before an I'm like, 428 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: because we said we're not, Like this is what the 429 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: cards are on the table. 430 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: I already told you what this shit was. 431 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, honey, like calm the fucked out, and it's 432 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: like the review, I'm like, please, just I would rather 433 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: just be like I fucking hate these people and stop 434 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: listening because I'm like, we're not gonna change. It always 435 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: amazes me, Yeah, I just I've never felt inclined. I 436 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: haven't even left a bad Google review of anything something 437 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: I don't like. 438 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: You're so who leads reviews, you're sus unless you're just 439 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: genuinely supporting because you were either asked to or you 440 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: loved it that much. 441 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: And that's there have been sometimes either with a podcast 442 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: where I'm just like, you know what, this podcast may 443 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: be very happy, or even if I'm like at a 444 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: Zara at a local mall and the woman who helped 445 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: me is aces. All the other fives are review I'm like, 446 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: you have to go shopping here. You have to. If 447 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Michelle's there, it's the best day of your life. Tip. 448 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: So I love to re reviews for good. 449 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: If they're like in all the true crime stories that 450 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: you've heard and or just even like read about on 451 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: the internet, is there any one particular unsolved crime that 452 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: bothers you or you wish could be solved or you 453 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: have any sort of take on that just like leads 454 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: you scratching your head. 455 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: I feel ones that, well, h one that really was 456 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: like so interesting to me, and it kind of was solved, 457 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: But I feel like there's just like he was such 458 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: a crazy man. There's probably so much more to him, 459 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: like do you know, like the fake guy. Maybe he's 460 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: kind of like he's sort of and this is where 461 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: I get so interested with like how. 462 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: Like okay Anadelvy kind of thing or kind of an Annadelvi. 463 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but like pre Anadelvi were he and he lived 464 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: like Anadelvi was just Anadelvi? 465 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Did he actually have money or but he was so. 466 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: Good at faking it? He had seven different names. 467 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: Well everyone does that now, I guess everyone. 468 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he but it was even before you could 469 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: like go to Kinko's and make a new name for you. 470 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Like he was talented. 471 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: He was talented and so much so he went to 472 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: New York one of his final stops and like told 473 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: everybody he was related to the Rockefeller family, which fridy 474 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: person like Rockefellers. 475 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: You wuldn't prove them wrong. They're like, okay, well. 476 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: Exact yeah, and it's like people up and it's so 477 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: good too, where it's like you to fool rich aristocrats. 478 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: You don't want to say to someone, oh, I'm one 479 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: of the Rockefellers and them to be like, I don't 480 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: think you're a Rockefeller because it's like you don't know. 481 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: It's like it's like, yeah, I'm one of you guys. 482 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: Exactly. 483 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yes, you are a lifeboat and you're like. 484 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: Uh oh sort of class. That's why I don't go 485 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: on cruises. I don't trust a cruise. 486 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: Now you know, there's not enough lifeboat still and there's 487 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: no plans on that thing sinking. They're like that was 488 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: one time Titanic. 489 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're not a cruise person. 490 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Honestly, I've never been. 491 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: I've never been on one either. 492 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: Really, I mean I would go, but it's not I'm 493 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: not craving it. And you have the people who are like, no, 494 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: you should definitely go on a cruise. I was like, man, 495 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: I've been to Vegas in a building that i'd never left. 496 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I've been on a cruise. Isn't it 497 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: the same thing. You're just like maybe getting seasick and 498 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm more track. 499 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: Few weeks and I feel like that will be my 500 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: cruise time. 501 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: Yet it might be fun, though, do you? I mean, 502 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: please report back as someone who's never been on one. 503 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: You see you're going on. 504 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: No, I'm going to Vegas. It's not a cruise. 505 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Okay, but you've been to Vegas. 506 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: I've been in Vegas once before, only once, only once. 507 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: It's my second time. 508 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good luck. 509 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: I will try it. It's for it's for Bravo con 510 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: so it'll be. 511 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Oh Dan, that'll be fun. Actually, that could be wild 512 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Eyed geez. 513 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: And unfortunately the over lap of the criminal Genshaw she 514 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: will not be there because she's in prison with Elizabeth Holmes. 515 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you were mentioning that in text too, 516 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this? 517 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: It's so she and this is why it is interesting 518 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: too when we'll talk because me and Sarah we talk 519 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: like how because we watch reality TV sometimes it comes 520 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: up a lot in some of the scam and more 521 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: like financial crimes we're talking about, because so much of 522 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: it interlupts with like narcissism and like those tendencies to 523 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: be convincing and things are not and everything. So Genshaw 524 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: I she just is like it was just such a 525 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: person who thought she was so good at breaking the 526 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: law that she could go on reality TV and not 527 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: get caught. 528 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she just completely had fooled herself herself into 529 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: like do you realize what this looks like? Yes? 530 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: And she's like why is everyone mad at me? 531 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? 532 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: And it just is so it's so chef's kiss that 533 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: she's in the same place as Elizabeth Holmes and their 534 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: friends because like they and people would probably think, like 535 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: what is this like CEO trying to fake out and 536 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: this real house to have in common? They both think 537 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: they're the best person in the entire world. Yes, so yeah, 538 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: they'll talk. 539 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: The voice of Elizabeth Holmes is like the way she 540 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: kind of seemingly changed it is. 541 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: I know, it's so impressive. 542 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I feel like so hot. 543 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: I feel she could have gone into like opera singing too. 544 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: She yeah, I mean she because like that range is 545 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: very impressive. 546 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if I could do that, 547 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: Like no, I mean you kind of did. 548 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: I can't. 549 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Like, no, you couldn't like talk about science and do that. 550 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: I can't. I for like ever, No, I know nothing 551 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: about science or masculine vocal chords. So I'm very bad 552 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: at all. I'm very bad at both of them. 553 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: That you don't you don't have a degree, and you 554 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: don't know vocal chords work. Does anyone know how they work? No, 555 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: just that one doctor who does that does so. When 556 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: I got into true crime, which I hate you even 557 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: saying because I mean, for a lot of reasons, but 558 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: Up in Vantish was my first podcast. It came out 559 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and that was right after Cereal had 560 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: that big moment and kind of introduced all of us 561 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: to just the magnitude of true crime storytelling and a 562 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: podcast format. And it's like it's like the Holy Grail. 563 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: But I was, you know, at that time, I was 564 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: inspired by Cereal. I had watched The Jinks on HBO Amazing, 565 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: also watched Making a Murderer and that was a huge thing, 566 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: and so I want to talk about Making a Murderer 567 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: for a second. You know what I'm talking about, right, 568 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Stephen Avery, Yes, what do you think? Do you think 569 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: he did it or not? 570 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: I feel it's a hard thing where I am so 571 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: susceptible to everything, and I don't know if that's a 572 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: good or bad thing. It depends on Like I'll read 573 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: like one Reddit threat or something and I'm like, well fuck, You're. 574 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Like, well there it is. 575 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. 576 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Guys just lying, you know. 577 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: And then I like click on the link and I'm 578 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: like it's like a little spambot. I I feel he 579 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: did absolutely, Yes, yes, I think. 580 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: Because who else did it? Now? The thing is is 581 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: like did the police plant evidence? Probably? Absolutely? 582 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: Yet I also that's the thing where it's people. 583 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: They're like, we're getting this guy no matter what, and 584 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: we don't give a ship. I'm not saying that's cool. 585 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: Shit happens. 586 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: It's weird only because he did do it and the 587 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: cops were fucking shady. 588 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: And also that's why it's weird. That's most times. It's 589 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: like Taylor Stuff once said, both of these things can 590 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: be true. That most times like someone did something and shady. 591 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it isn't what it looks like, but it usually is. 592 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is funny because I'm talking about talking 593 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: about ours. It's crazy how now I feel every story 594 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: is like ping ponged between like a podcast series and 595 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: then it comes to Netflix documentary. Then there's a Netflix 596 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: documentary podcast about it. Everything like that. Yeah, where I 597 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: feel for a while podcast was catching up to like 598 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: the documentary the documentarians. And it's interesting right now, it's. 599 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: A universe that it all lives in. It's changed so much, 600 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: like I got so much shit for and and I'll 601 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: even say, rightfully so for being some guy who's raising 602 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: his hand saying I don't know what I'm doing. I 603 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be doing this, but I'm doing it anyway. 604 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: But I did do it and completed the loop. And 605 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: I I do feel a little strange about some other 606 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: people out there doing it. Not saying that I am 607 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: in any way special or better, I just know how 608 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: difficult it was and is and all the things that 609 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: come with it that you might not pick up on 610 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: by just listening to my show mm hmm. And so 611 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I don't want to feel 612 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: like I've you know, led someone down some path that say, hey, 613 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: like you don't know what it's really like though, like 614 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: you might not want to do this. Yeah. 615 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: And it's also it's also really interesting too because I 616 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: feel there because like it was just podcasting for so long, 617 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: and now that there's all these big booms of documentary 618 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: and stuff coming out, and now there's a lot of 619 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: like higher profile people who don't do anything remotely involved 620 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: with any of that stuff. It's like, yeah, I want 621 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: to check and I don't really care how I get 622 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: it or the quality of what comes out. I just 623 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: want to do it. 624 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: This guy did it, yeah, yeah. 625 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: And they're like and I have. They're like, I'm an 626 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: a list star, so I can just put my nail 627 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: on something, hodgepot something. 628 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: All together, we learned that that we've learned that does 629 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: not work. 630 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't work when a keeps et for the. 631 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: Show that we have with Kim K because she did 632 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: absolutely crush it and she is dope and she's smart 633 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: as hell about it and actually gives a shit research 634 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: and things like that, Yeah, Like she's not just trying 635 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: to look good. She really is like in this and 636 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: is an advocate and knows this case. 637 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: That's what I do. And I feel like there ha 638 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: because there was such an anti Cradashians for a while, 639 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: and I obviously get why. I feel Kim is on 640 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: her way back to kind of being more. 641 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: If you don't like Kim k you're just a hater. 642 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: It's like you haven't tried her sweaters. 643 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: So many things you could say because her life just 644 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: looks so much cooler than yours, and she's actually talented 645 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: and you wish that she wasn't. 646 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: And it's also the funny thing too, where people and 647 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: it's kind of what you were saying, where people see 648 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: what you do and they want to do or I'm 649 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: like it's like, yeah, her life sees a magical I'm like, oh, 650 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: fucking sucks too. 651 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: How many other rich people there are that don't do anything? 652 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, or they do things that are just like specifically 653 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: their richness comes from making other people's lives more miserable 654 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: in hell where it's. 655 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Like she could be way shitty but she's not. 656 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she could be like, oh, I want to 657 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: like she could bulldoze over like community centers to build 658 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: like skims pop ups or something like that, because that's 659 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: like what rich people do. It's like the grove in La. 660 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm like that guy almost fucking became mayor there. So 661 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of rich people that are pieces 662 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: of shit where it's like wanted it, maybe buy a sweater. 663 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: And like as she's helping people with like prison reform 664 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: and trying and because that was the thing everyone made 665 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: fun of her for doing, like the law school route 666 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: and like studying for like the baby bar and everything, 667 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: I was like, I just try it. 668 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet everyone who laughed it could never even 669 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: do it themselves. 670 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 671 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. Oh, I could not. I didn't 672 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: even finish college. That's because I didn't want to, because 673 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 674 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 2: You made the right choices, like college, I mean college 675 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: was fine. 676 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: Hindsight, like, I'm like, thank god I didn't do that 677 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: was I would have been a waste. 678 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: Of time because I'm like, I pay how much money 679 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: amoun than student loans? Because I like went to keg 680 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: parties and made friends and like barely did homework. It 681 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: was it was rough, Yeah. 682 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. Do you like, Actually, Mike, do you 683 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: mind trying to pull up remember that Reddit comment I 684 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: showed you in the radio rental thread that was kind 685 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: of perverted about me? Can you try to find that? 686 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: It's very it's very funny. But you mentioned something earlier 687 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: about like just seeing something on Reddit and being like, oh, wow, 688 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: that's true. Right, So do you do you go on Reddit? 689 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: I have sometimes, or Sarah has gotten me down Reddit 690 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: spirals because she kept on. 691 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: He's gotten me down it. 692 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always a person. It's always kind of like 693 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: like the redditor slip yeah, slope, yes, because first you 694 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: would just be like, oh you need to read this 695 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: rad and I was like okay, and I'm like at first, 696 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: I literally big, I don't even know how this works. 697 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you're like this is for nerd. Yeah, 698 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: And now I have the app and now you're like yeah, exactly. 699 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: And now like if it's also the thing too, like 700 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: if I'm looking for like reviews or something before I 701 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: buy it, yes, I've read it. 702 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: At the end of It's not a bad place to look 703 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: for that that's. 704 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Actually there is because that's the thing every like five 705 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: great Reddit threads there's like twenty five thousand bad ones 706 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 2: and then you you never know which one is the 707 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: which category. But it does occupy my time a lot. 708 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: This is gonna sound really silly and it's not an 709 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: ad for anything. But I got COVID again recently, Like 710 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I feel a little weird. I was like, 711 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: surely not. And I had one test left over from 712 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: the year ago that I I had COVID. I guess 713 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: last time. And I'm like, well, I lets just see 714 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, bullshit, really, And I was going to 715 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Alaska four days later. I was like, I need to 716 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: kill this thing. And I remember seeing all these dumb 717 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: commercials on TV for this drug called paxloavas Oh yes, 718 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: and I was like whatever, and so I was like, 719 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: so I just googled, like how do you get Packedloavid? 720 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: And I ended up on this app and I and 721 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: thirty minutes later I was talking to this lady who 722 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: prescribed it, and I swear to God, in twenty four 723 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: hours it went away. But the first thing I did 724 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: I went to read it. I was like, all right, 725 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: what's up with this thing? And everyone's like, guys, I'm 726 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's kind of crazy. It just it works. 727 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: And right place they loved to bullshit on things, they 728 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: would totally call it out if they didn't. So if 729 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: you get COVID, get packed, Sloavid. I hate that. I 730 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: just said that. But also, no one wants COVID for 731 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: more than a day, no or an hour. Yeah. 732 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: Well because also now because we're out upon a society 733 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: where because it used to be like, oh my god, 734 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: you have called like take as much time off work 735 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: if you need anything like that. And I was like, 736 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: it's not as bad, dude, come on to work and 737 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: you're like nobody work. You're like, fuck, you're right, I 738 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: just got my bogo d on the shot flu and booster. 739 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still a pretty good excuse. 740 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: Though. 741 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: It's like cause it's you know, it's it's a little 742 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: more oh COVID. Okay, well it's it's wearing thin though. 743 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: That's where I get that. You got you gotta save 744 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: the time you get it at the time you want to, 745 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: because you're like I can't go out. Yeah. 746 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Also like you can't funk around and get COVID like 747 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: shortly after that and actually have its Like I got 748 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: it again. I know I'm a medical and you cannot 749 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: post anything on social media. You cannot be with a bar. 750 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Did you did you find it? Okay, I will try 751 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: to find this, he goes. Also, his user name is 752 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: is mcculay Culkin. I'm pretty sure it's not the real one. 753 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: You don't know though. 754 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: If it is, he gets a pass. But also fuck off, 755 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: he he says. Payne Lindsay has an alt Reddit account 756 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: where he shares pics of himself stretching his wiener out. 757 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: Super weird dude dot dot dot. And so my first 758 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: off was, like stretching my wiener out? What are you 759 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: even talking about? I don't even I don't have to 760 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: stretch it out balls, like stretching it out like I mean, 761 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: because that's not for you. But like, where are they 762 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: doing I mean, after they're doing it somewhere like stretching 763 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: it out like that doesn't even make sense. Yeah, And 764 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: then this guy goes, can a man not stretch his 765 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: wiener on the internet. It's important to have hobbies. And 766 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: then uh Mincola Culkin says, yeah, man, he's stretching his 767 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: wiener out. He posted on this sub a month ago 768 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: and I asked him about it, and he refused to answer. 769 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: And this person goes, how do you know it's even him? 770 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: And then he says he had a verification photo and 771 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: it was his face and cock and there was a 772 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: bunch of radio rental stuff and stuff from his other 773 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: works and memorabilia in the background. I'm like, this guy's 774 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: just literally making this shit up. And this person goes, 775 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm just so floored right now. I mean to each 776 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: their own, obviously, but wow. The next person goes, I 777 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: am sick. What the fuck? Please please elaborate on how 778 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: you attempted to call him out? And I was like, 779 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: all right, I shouldn't say anything. I should stay after this, 780 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: and so I just like got pissed and probably like 781 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: yelled into a pillow and the bucket. Then he went 782 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: at it again and like saying the same thing. I 783 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: was like, all right, dude, like we gotta check this out. 784 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something also like I made this up 785 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: Reddit and you're nenger a part of it. 786 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're like, you can't go to my house anymore. 787 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: But it was so annoying that people were like, what, 788 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: no way. I'm like, it's not true, obviously, I don't 789 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: stretch it out, lay it out. 790 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: You're a gentleman. Yeah right, just as you know, like 791 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: from the waist down, it's laid out on the country. 792 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Like it's very it's it's. 793 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: It has its own pillow. 794 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's not is perverted as you're picturing it. 795 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: I'm also like, because my thing the reason I feel 796 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: like everyone should always lying, because I am the only 797 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: want to. I was like, how would you pose with 798 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: your face stretched out, penis and all your stuff in the. 799 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: Back, Like how bad do you would have to be doing? 800 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: Like you would have to be doing like sun salt 801 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: you take or like something like that, or like a 802 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: V stretch. 803 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: It's like cool, Like I don't want to do my 804 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: career anymore. Let me just let me this is the 805 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: way I want to go out. 806 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: I also would be the main reason I would only 807 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: be mad at you for doing that on Reddit, because 808 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: I would just call you im meeting and say, liked. 809 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: You missed the only fans opportunity. It's like if I 810 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: could have started doing that, then like we're going to 811 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: monetize this obviously, you know my bucks ten bucks, and 812 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: you could be like, if you pay, you. 813 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 2: Can stretch your wallets to the top tier. I'll stretch 814 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: my for as long as. 815 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: You need, right, I mean, if it's enough money. I mean, 816 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't know I would. 817 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I got a doctor. 818 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: I want to try to find where how do you 819 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: read it? App is kind of annoying here trying to 820 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: find my own like comments that I've. 821 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: Made that's Oh, did you reply to him on there? 822 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: Or no? 823 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: I eventually did, Yes, I need to find it now. 824 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: That's also such a funny lie to say this because 825 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, what it is hilarious because I'm like, how 826 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: does that? Because if I saw that about like someone 827 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: that I like listened to, or I'm. 828 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: Like it sounds right, It's like it's too specific. 829 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's so confused. And I was like, 830 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 2: that's what he does. I don't know if it's the 831 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: New York and me. I'm like, all you're saying is 832 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: he stretches out his penis. I was like, all right, 833 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, ride the two train, babe. I don't have 834 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: to tell you. 835 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: It was only really annoying when I saw people were going, wow, 836 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe him. I'm like, this person is blindly 837 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: believing this. I was like, I can't just sit here 838 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: and let that happen. 839 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: But now I wonder if I read that. I wonder 840 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: if I would have thought, damn. 841 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: You, yeah, pins and pain, it's right, I would say, 842 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: where is it? I can't find it. 843 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, DM, I. 844 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: Think you must have deleted it. Can you send it over? 845 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: I'd be like a lighting tip and cue it up. 846 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: Or I just like, do whatever you do, don't put 847 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: it next to our. 848 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: TV or everyone knows you don't show your face in 849 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: those things. A. 850 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: Never show your face for any come on, yeah, exactly, 851 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 2: and B never put it next to like a thing 852 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: for like size comparison, because that just is always so embarrassing. 853 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, it no matter what you're doing, it looks gross. Yeah, cool, 854 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: like like that's the body washer used that's gross. 855 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: Like oh the bo No, because I'm like, you have 856 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: a one? 857 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: Or like cool, really old remote. 858 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 2: I mean, now if you're doing it next to the apple, hey, 859 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: it's the motion of the ocean. But they're not paying anymore. 860 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So he he was back at it again 861 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and he caught me in 862 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: the wrong mood. I was like, so, he said again 863 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: just to a new post in the same subreddit too, 864 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: this is Micula Colcon again too bad. Payin Lindsay has 865 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: a weird Reddit account where he'd stretch out his penis 866 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: for up votes. Really strange, dude, And again someone goes, 867 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: what and then he elaborated he has an alternate Reddit 868 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: account like that, yeah, filled with posts of him stretching 869 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: his soft penis out. I called him out in this 870 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: sub and he deleted the old account immediately. He probably 871 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: has a new one by now though. So I was like, 872 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: all right, I'm pretty sure I was driving and I 873 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: was pulled over. 874 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I got time. 875 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: I know I do have time. Yeah, I said, shut 876 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: the fuck up, you creepy fuck Lol. I've checked out 877 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: your Reddit profile and every other post you make is 878 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: in fact about a penis, and it is strangely true. 879 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: But like he's saying other weird stuff about other people, 880 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: like in this vein, like not this specific, but like 881 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: other shit like this. I said, blocking your ass from 882 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: this group lol, And so I blocked him. And you know, 883 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't want the truth to get out like that, 884 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: you know, No, you just have. 885 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 2: To be a big reveal, a coming up. All. Yeah, 886 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: that's called a debutante. 887 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, come on, man, if that's the way, 888 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: that's not how I'd go out, you know. 889 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: And also that is because this is funny thing. You 890 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't even get in trouble for that. That's not doing 891 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: anything that's weird or choice. 892 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, people might have a like it might offend some people, 893 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: but some people are not going to be offended and 894 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: they'll probably subscribe. 895 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: I would say, do you boo? 896 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: Yes, right exactly, I'm kind of like, are we past that? 897 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: Like he cares like, I mean, it would be a 898 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: little strange. I mean, I don't think it would work 899 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: for my vibe over here as a true crime podcaster investigator. 900 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: You know that'd be the hard wear, both hats, not 901 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: just like a stretched out little top hat on your 902 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: stretch up penis. Ye know, that'd be very hard. Well, 903 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: I would just say you would just need to do 904 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: other things that would be less painful. 905 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever maybe this is just like a stupid 906 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: thought that I've had, But if you ever thought of 907 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: about like if you were if this was like a 908 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: in a bubble as an experiment, how fast do you 909 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: think you could cancel yourself? 910 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 911 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 5: With milliseconds, like right now, you could do it just 912 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 5: like all the tweet a simple transmission or yeah you 913 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 5: call it an x now or xing or I don't, 914 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. 915 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: It's well, it's like how meta is Facebook now? All 916 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: that stuff? So you just pick whatever new platform to 917 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: cancel yourself. 918 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's both about efficiency here if you're trying 919 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: to do it the fastest. Oh, you don't have to 920 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: go into what you would do because you're starting, but yeah, 921 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: you know the. 922 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: I would I feel Twitter is the probably the the 923 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: best mode for I. 924 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Think so too. Yeah, whatever you say, like you say 925 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: and I mean that, and I mean that, but like 926 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: you what. 927 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: Would be worse getting canceled from that or like you 928 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: do that you're like, well it's over two likes. 929 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, like oh, then you're like whatever. Then you've become 930 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: super successful, and then ten years later someone was like, dude, 931 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: look what are you saying. 932 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: That's They're like, let me say that. 933 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: They come back to bite you, but you'd be good 934 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: for now. We're not ready to kill you yet. And 935 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be all don't I don't give 936 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: a shit about I'm just saying like, well, it's funny 937 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying now exactly like you 938 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: could fuck up and say something yeah, and like because 939 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm you wouldn't but good and it could exact you 940 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: wanted to. 941 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: I feel if anybody just had their stream of consciousness 942 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: be out of their brain and everyone just be like 943 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: what the fuck, they would just say like I just 944 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: want to not be around you because you're so something 945 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: is wrong. 946 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: Like I thought you were better than this. 947 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're like, no, I'm Dejornia. 948 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm sorry. This is why I keep it 949 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: all up here. 950 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's safe up there in the bubbles, introverted 951 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: it is. 952 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people just you know, are not as good 953 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: at that. 954 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 3: I guess. 955 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's interesting because like I feel, Dojia cats 956 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: really trying to cancel herself? 957 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: But I thought she's like she is uncancellable. I think 958 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: that's kind of she just too cool. I mean, she 959 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: could definitely say some messed up shit and get people upset, 960 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: but like has she done that? I don't really follow her, 961 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: I guess, but I feel like in what what vein? 962 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: Like she expensive stuff for what? 963 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well because she had the offensive things like that, 964 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: like the chat room she used to be in and 965 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 2: I think because that was the foundation of it. And 966 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: then recently I don't know the person who she wore 967 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 2: on her shirt. Did you see it or like, but 968 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 2: it was like some like controversial person on a shirt 969 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: and she like posts helf for the person, and any 970 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: person who knows this person knows that they're controversial. I 971 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know who the fuck is on 972 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: her shirt. So she's doing a lot of things where 973 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 2: it's almost like she's like feeding the beast of it 974 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: almost so much where she does something every day. 975 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: Where it's almost it's not what it's not an anomaly, 976 00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: it's just like constantly, it's like Trump is always Trump arrested, Yes, always, 977 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: And you're like it's like nothing surprises you, and you 978 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: could that's that's probably one person. You could read anything 979 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: about it on the internet and be like that's probably 980 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: true and it's probably yeah the one exception where it's 981 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: like yeah, that that's true too. 982 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: Or I feel like I actually think they're not embellishing enough. 983 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: I think they're there whole. 984 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: God, Yeah, that's just the tip that the iceberg there. Yeah, 985 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: there's more to that. Yeah, it's funny because what I 986 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: did a up and Ventish TV series a couple of 987 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: years after on Oxygen and one of the things that 988 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: they made me do before the show came out, which 989 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's I mean, like this was 990 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: like a requirement. But I was like that's fine. I 991 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,919 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna be good. They're like we need 992 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: like they hired some third party company to go look at, like, 993 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: look at all the social media posts I've ever made 994 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: and make sure there was not something like you know 995 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: that could go yeah goofy in there. And I was like, 996 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm good, You're good. There was like one thing from 997 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight and it's not as bad. 998 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say what it is, but I 999 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, that that that could that could 1000 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: be perceived that way. I was like did I Did 1001 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: I even tweet that? Did I tweet that? But I've 1002 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: also now I know that I'm good now because I 1003 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, it was one thing it is NBCU, Yeah, 1004 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: someone's gonna go try to find it. Not we scrubbed 1005 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: that shit. Uh yeah, that's it was. It was hilarious 1006 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: of how confident I was. I was like, I'm a 1007 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,280 Speaker 1: good person coming. I was like okay, and what's funny? 1008 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not even making this up. It was related 1009 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: to sports, it was related. This was back when I 1010 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: was emotional about it and I had to drop it. 1011 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 1: It's not good for you. 1012 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 2: No, that's what you should never feel too emotionally tied 1013 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: to anything, really, honestly, honestly, no attachments. Really is a 1014 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 2: perfect way to get their life. 1015 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you something because you are, like, 1016 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: you know, being a comedian is basically part of your job. 1017 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: Is do you find it more difficult not being funny? 1018 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: I was? 1019 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: I was, I'm like if I when I do myself, don't. 1020 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: Actually answer that. I was like, will he think that's funny? 1021 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: You didn't, so fuck I. 1022 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: I wasn't because it's like there's half the times, like 1023 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: half the times you're performed for people who don't think 1024 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: you're funny and like hate you, And that's actually the 1025 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: more fun times. You think so because it's like just enjoyable, 1026 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: because it's like enjoyable to yourself where you're like, well, 1027 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: why am I doing this? I was like, well's to 1028 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 2: make myself laugh, So I just gotta go from that. 1029 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's honestly probably a good 1030 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: method and then allo making yourself laugh. You're having fun 1031 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: and you're probably funnier actually, And. 1032 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 2: To your point or to what were we talking about earlier, 1033 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: where it's I'm like, oh yeah, I go into everyonoe 1034 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: like oh no, one will think I'm like whatever. I'm 1035 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: just like here, what can I do to have? Like 1036 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: there's like, I don't know if you've ever seen like 1037 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: that Mariah Carey viral TikTok sound where she's like drunk 1038 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: on a stage and she's like, I'm gonna do the 1039 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: best I can with what I got. Yeah, that's how 1040 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: I wake. 1041 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: Up every day, which is just a vibe. 1042 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: It's just a vibe. 1043 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: So man, do what I'm doing. Have you ever done 1044 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: stand up? Yeah? That sounds terrifying but also exciting, And 1045 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean I want to one day do that just 1046 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: for for my own sake and fun and probably bum 1047 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: and be scared. But like I admire anyone who gets 1048 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: on the stage and just is being funny and like 1049 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: that's not fucking that's the thing. 1050 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 2: It's a fun. It's a lot of fun at times 1051 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: because you sort of just like lose yourself and I'm 1052 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: very much off the cup, Like I don't like to 1053 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 2: write stuff out, and I love because it's like a 1054 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 2: pressure cooker almost because it's yes, okay while you're out 1055 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 2: there and you're on there and it's not you're like, okay, 1056 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 2: we cut for a second, where it's like no, you 1057 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: literally are in real time. So it makes that adrenaline 1058 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: rush go, which is really really enjoyable. But there is 1059 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: also the parts of it that I do it last 1060 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: now because the parts of it where it's like kind 1061 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 2: of like anything else where you need to work so 1062 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: much at it. 1063 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be really truly is a craft. 1064 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be like somewhat okay at it, like not 1065 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: even to be like yeah good or great at it, 1066 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: and like not even to make money, just like not 1067 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: be embarrassing yourself. Well, usually are like so many times 1068 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: a week, so many times a night and everything where 1069 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, I got like it was one 1070 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: of like after the pandemic where I was like I 1071 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: forgot how to like go out, and that was one 1072 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: of the things I was like, I need to like 1073 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 2: now remember how to go to dinner. And then on 1074 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: top of that do that. 1075 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I gotta like you have manners again. 1076 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 2: I mean, let me let me take a step back. 1077 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 1: Do you have any current favorite comedians or anything. 1078 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm obsessed with a z Way. She's less of 1079 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: a stand up, but like she's like an interviewer who 1080 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 2: is just really really fucking funny, and I feel she's 1081 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: a really good example of someone who like did something 1082 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: that not a lot of other people were doing and 1083 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 2: just very. 1084 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: Much her Okay, what's your name again? 1085 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 4: Why? 1086 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 3: Time? 1087 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: Really fucking funny, very styracle. Love her, and I also 1088 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: do like kind of on the flip side of her. 1089 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: Jared Freed, do you know maybe I probably would know 1090 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: the face? 1091 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 2: He shouts at sports sometimes too, so does he He's 1092 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 2: shot so slack he shouts at sports and The Bachelor, 1093 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 2: so he has he has layers and levels to him, 1094 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: and he's just like a hysterical guy. And I like 1095 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: his humor because it's very like self deprecating me. It's 1096 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 2: my favorite's my favorite thing because it's also what it's 1097 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 2: funny where people's relatable to where they get so worried 1098 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: and people like what can I love? What can I 1099 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: make fun of anymore? 1100 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: Everyone wants like, well, you're pretty fucking funny. 1101 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'll see, Like a guy who's forty. 1102 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 2: It's like, well, now I can't joke about anything. I'm like, 1103 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: you have a receiving hairline. Use that, yes, yeah, I 1104 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: might go with that. You think those pants fit you properly? 1105 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: Go with that? Like you actually have hours. 1106 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: I have so many jokes for you. 1107 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, if you want me to write them for you, like, 1108 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: we can go at it. Like I'm sure your wife, 1109 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: who you somehow have, would love to. 1110 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: Add some jokes to that, and your escorts like. 1111 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: They have the memoirs. I'm sure yeah. 1112 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So you watch a lot of reality TV. 1113 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 1: If you're watched if you ever watched uh, love is Blind? 1114 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 2: You know I I'm not caught up. I watched that 1115 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1116 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: Or did he ever just finished the season of it? 1117 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1118 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: Do you not think that we've conclusively figured out that 1119 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: love is blind? Because you know what, it turns out 1120 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: love is not blind? 1121 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: Because I'm like, because I as someone who yo yo 1122 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: diets all the time. If we really want love to 1123 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: be blind, how does everyone in that pot on those 1124 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 2: pots of apps? 1125 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: Why is everyone hot hot? We need some people? Every 1126 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: single person is hot? 1127 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: We need if we really want to prove the test 1128 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: of what. 1129 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: This throw in some randoms in there, some scary people 1130 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: or something. 1131 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: I like, make it interesting, make it interesting, not how 1132 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: is everybody because I know also know it's like a 1133 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: TV shows, like they get cast it from agents. I'm like, 1134 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 2: they got to expand the reach a little bit, just 1135 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: kind of like with like all dating shows, we have 1136 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 2: to make it more realistic to the levels of people 1137 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: that are out and about. 1138 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: Right now, the Bachelorette kills me because every single dude, 1139 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: they're like they're like the only guys in the world 1140 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 1: who look like them. Yes, like they're like either there's 1141 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: only so many of them and they're all on the Bachelor, 1142 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: or they're about Bachelorette and they're about to. 1143 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 2: Be the bachelor. 1144 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like that's the only like they'd like to 1145 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: go find them, like you'll see when Oh that would 1146 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: that that would be one, but like every once in 1147 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: a while, it's not. 1148 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: And that's where I feel if it was more regular 1149 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: looking people. I think it would also help people have 1150 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 2: more fun, yeah, because then I'm like, oh, they have 1151 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: personalities or it's kind of like you you would I 1152 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: would feel more related to like watching someone like have 1153 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: a sweat stain on a date. Because I'm like, that's me, 1154 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: like I would just kind of feel more at home. 1155 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's ever talking about anything interesting either. There's 1156 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: always some bullshit. 1157 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 2: And it feels so because then it's also because they're 1158 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 2: so very like Barbie ken Ish with it, because like 1159 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: still with a Bachelor where it's like they're like that 1160 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: sex well, it's like that's kind of a part of 1161 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 2: dating too, where you kind of like where they beat 1162 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 2: around it so much, where I feel if it was 1163 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 2: people that just more looks, it's like, yeah, like let's 1164 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 2: see how we flop together type of stuff. 1165 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: And what's crazy is just is the fairy tale presentation 1166 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: and they're at the end essentially what happens is I 1167 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: mean it leads sometimes this guy has sex with like 1168 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: three girls, but it's this very romantic thing only on 1169 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: the Bachelor Are you doing that and not pissing? 1170 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 2: Well also with them all knowing about it, right, because it's. 1171 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to find love, good luck doing You 1172 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: can't do that shit in real life, and it's I'm 1173 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: like fake permission to be kind of a shitty. 1174 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 2: I'm in support of everyone having a roster for the 1175 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: first two three months of days to book around. But yeah, 1176 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: but then when you find it, when it's through your 1177 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 2: final rose, you shouldn't mean to be not. 1178 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: With like three girls who want to marry you. No, 1179 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: that's that's insane. 1180 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: So I love you so much. What your ring sides, 1181 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go fucking the other. 1182 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'm already here. 1183 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 2: So it's funny how they should really make that more 1184 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 2: of like a polyamorous show, because that would end up 1185 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,479 Speaker 2: in a whole different fun What are. 1186 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: They I mean, I guess I do know what they're 1187 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: afraid of. I mean an advertiser, You're right, who could 1188 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: who would ever oppose? I'd be I forget sometimes that 1189 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: people are so charged by that shit. Then I'm constantly 1190 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: reminded and I'm like, oh, yeah, like what the fuck like. 1191 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 2: If you had average looking people dating to be in 1192 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: a poly relationship, I would watch the hell out of it. 1193 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: If it isn't like what a dating app is in 1194 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: real life, and then it's bullshit. 1195 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 2: When I lived in Brooklyn, yes that was, It's not 1196 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 2: like it's a lot. That's why I'm obsessed with The 1197 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor because it feels a little more this. 1198 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I watched the first episode and I'm like, 1199 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be good. I'll say this 1200 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting. 1201 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 2: And it is funny because I feel this maybe is 1202 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 2: more so just like for coastal cities, I'm thinking I'm 1203 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: shocked that all. And I guess also it's the same 1204 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: reason for ABC. I really thought there'd be like some 1205 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: younger girls for the guy because I am used to 1206 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 2: seeing May December relationships a lot more where I'm kind 1207 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: of like, there's not one thirty year old who's looking 1208 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: for the sexy guy. 1209 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: Because I'm not rich. Though he's got he's got a 1210 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: you know, I r a or something. He's got, he's 1211 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: got retirement. Yeah, he probably lives a simple life, but 1212 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: he's not like a you know, I don't know that. 1213 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 2: Would have to be called. I guess at the Ritz 1214 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 2: Carlton because when I go to a hotel bar, I'm 1215 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 2: just always looking. I'm like, what is happening here? 1216 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: I want to see if you do something with me here? 1217 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: And in the spirit of all of your silly videos 1218 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: of the drink that you had last night or the 1219 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: one that's calling your name at brunch, I have a 1220 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: little mini barn here. Could we whip something up? Real 1221 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: quick and just do a little toast. Yes, okay, cool. 1222 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: The options are probably very limited, but we'll figure it out. 1223 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: I love. 1224 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: Uh, let's see what we got. It's probably bad wine 1225 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: or hard whiskey. 1226 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm easy. I don't drink, so I don't know. 1227 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: Well, then don't drink with me. 1228 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 2: Then, oh, I thought, well, they don't have any mixers there. 1229 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 2: I would just cheers to you. I'm Irish, cathic. I'll 1230 00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: raise a glass from. 1231 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: Okay, then we'll do that. So what are we cheers into? 1232 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 2: We are cheersing? Mm? You know what I feel? We 1233 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: gotta like I want to almost raise a glass to 1234 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 2: stretching out your heart your soul and. 1235 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: You have to do it and yeah, yeah, okay to 1236 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: stretching out my heart and nothing else. 1237 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 2: God bless that. 1238 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: Who Okay, watch just be like how my only fans starts? 1239 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 2: Can I tell you the hotel room you have set 1240 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 2: up here? It does give only fans vibe? Does it? 1241 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? 1242 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: Like? 1243 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: How does it give OnlyFans vibes? 1244 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,479 Speaker 2: It's giving decadence but plays out to like stuff because 1245 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 2: you have a big window you have like it could 1246 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 2: be as darker light. 1247 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: As someone's done that here, right, I'm assuming I'm on liquid. 1248 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1249 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's no there's no way that someone has 1250 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,959 Speaker 1: not recently had sex in here, which is you don't 1251 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: think about it, but like it's now actually has to 1252 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: be true. 1253 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: It just and also it's like almost the thing like 1254 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 2: in living in cities. Every time I'm in even like 1255 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 2: a dressing room or a bathroom, a public bathroom or 1256 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 2: even an elevator, I'm like, I'm standing where there's like 1257 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: like I could almost yeah. I like I feel like 1258 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: there's times I'm like, funk, I'm late, Like I don't know, 1259 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't have a period. 1260 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: But like shit, You're like, I've just I haven't had 1261 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: a period. 1262 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 2: Yet in my whole life. Then I'm like, fuck, I 1263 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 2: never did have one. I don't know that. 1264 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I need to go to the doctor. 1265 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 2: Shit. I'm like, you know, I sat on the two train. 1266 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. 1267 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh, you were Okay, what day was this? Man? Well, 1268 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: this has been a blast, dude, thank you for coming out, 1269 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: and oh my god, I'd love to, you know, whatever 1270 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: is best for you guys to join you all again 1271 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: on your show at any time. I've always had fun. 1272 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you are so much mon, and that's 1273 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: why we want to get you on for like a 1274 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: light a lighter time. 1275 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, like maybe we do. Like all, if 1276 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: I keep watching The Golden Bachelor, which I think I 1277 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: might this time, we could do I mean, I don't 1278 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: know if you guys talk about that stuff, but we 1279 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: could do something like that. Or we're not telling you 1280 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: what to watch, we. 1281 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: Bring up well, we just end up talking about some 1282 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 2: random ship. So let me tell you, in a few weeks, 1283 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 2: we might be talking about the Olden Bachelor, okay, yeah, 1284 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: or just like an old man who could be conning people. 1285 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 2: So are a little bit of both. 1286 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, because that's not the Golden Bachelor. He's not conning, 1287 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: I will say. I mean, that's a scandal. 1288 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 2: From ABC to CNN. 1289 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: Who knows they have to heavily research these people. 1290 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 2: You think that, but then all the times you see a. 1291 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 1: Batchelor always it was like wow, and that was pretty 1292 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: racist from a long time, from pretty recent. Yeah, from 1293 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 1: from like one scroll down. 1294 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, from the Trump baro. Yeah, that's all. They're just 1295 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 2: like we didn't know, Like I feel like that, like 1296 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 2: we didn't know the carousels. 1297 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: Somebody never scrolled past to the fourth PHOTOA like, no, 1298 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: it looks good. 1299 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's cute. 1300 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah printed, let's do it. Yeah. Well hell yeah, man, 1301 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: this is It's been a blast, and thank you. I 1302 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: can't wait to share the internet that some guy on 1303 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 1: Reddit said that about my penis. 1304 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: If you know, well, maybe I'll just do it and 1305 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 2: say that you do it and I off five of target. 1306 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it's like, no, he does it. But it's not 1307 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: as bad as its owns, isn't. No, guys, cos me like, 1308 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: it sounds really bad when you read it like that, 1309 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 1: but really, I promise you. 1310 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's almost dataism. I make it artistory, artistic. 1311 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah it's not yet, it's tasteful. 1312 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah that's classic. 1313 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: Well cheers, man, cheers. 1314 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 4: Talking to Death is a production of Tenderfoot TV and 1315 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 4: iHeart Podcasts, created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV, 1316 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 4: executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright. Co executive 1317 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 4: producer is Mike Rudey. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are 1318 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 4: Matt Frederick and Alex Williams. With original music by Makeup 1319 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 4: and Vanity Set. 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