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Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone who's sending questions over the All Star

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Speaker 2: First one, Hey, no dunkers. That All Star Game fourth

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Speaker 2: I like soccer, Yeah, I love the free flowing forty

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with reducing timeouts, I would say one per

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Speaker 1: Take a look how everybody said running here.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing I would do is reduce the

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Speaker 2: At my age, I am definitely pro putting stuff on jerseys.

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Speaker 1: For, I think it would it just couldn't it make

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Speaker 3: But it could make it better too, because you haven't

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Speaker 1: We get the win.

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Speaker 5: To have best players on teams and they're still always

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you well, but you won't have the

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Speaker 3: I don't think as much because they're not. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: I want to get that spot.

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Speaker 3: And so you haven't got guys necessarily worrying about their

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe maybe it's tough to say, like Westbrook

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Speaker 3: It doesn't to me change the fact that James harden't

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Speaker 1: Count, right, and forget forget even the you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: congratulations you made an All Star Game or an All NBA.

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Speaker 1: There's monetary you know, incentives built into a lot of these.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think this would change all that much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But to me, I mean, like, the aren't going

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Speaker 6: To get PJ Tucker more shots.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, there's still if there's still a LARRYO. B,

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Speaker 6: That's all would be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what Lee's saying is that maybe James

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Speaker 2: going to exist because it's such a popular league. There'll

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Speaker 2: instead of wanting to play basketball because there's money tied

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Speaker 2: People still want to be superstars, people still want to

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Speaker 2: be that shining light in this game. That's a team game,

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Speaker 2: but it's also a great way for individuals to show

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Speaker 1: I mean, what Sal's getting at here, It's like the

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Speaker 1: every week, or end of every month, or the end

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's what he's getting at. I mean, and

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm gonna cut you off.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you off. We just we should try

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Speaker 1: it one week. Let's put it to the test. Does

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Speaker 6: Maybe let's let's treat March like an NBA season. We're

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Speaker 1: I really like this.

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Speaker 5: We'll have most improved people, all track like points per

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Speaker 1: Who's the most defensive They'll win Defensive Player with the Year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to work with there, Okay, and you

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Speaker 2: He also listed his name as Sal not from Impractical

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Speaker 2: Jokers or am.

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Speaker 1: I Wow, pretty fun?

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Speaker 2: It would be fun next ques some dinkies. I was

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Speaker 2: either too young or my basketball interest wavered a bit

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Speaker 2: during Steve Nash's time in the league. However, looking back

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Speaker 2: or games greats. His individual accolades are insane. Eight time

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Speaker 2: four times accomplishing the fifty to forty ninety. I'll compare

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Speaker 2: it to Chris Paul CP always gets mentioned as top

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Speaker 2: an equivalent playoff record as Nash. Now, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to turn this into a CP three VERSU Nash argument,

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Speaker 2: just comparison. So for those of us who lost interest

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Speaker 2: why do you believe Nash doesn't get that level of

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Speaker 2: hype or love as others do. Thanks? That's from Reid

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Speaker 1: All Right, I got a problem with this email, and

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Speaker 1: I am the biggest Steve Nash fan of life. You

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Speaker 1: look like, yeah, I love him so much. I changed

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Speaker 1: as I could like Steve Nash. I think he I

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it top three, top five, top ten?

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Speaker 1: Because Steve Nash is regularly mentioned in the top ten time,

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Speaker 1: if you want to say, well, to be considered the greatest,

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Speaker 1: he did a point guard top ten. It's not too

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Speaker 1: long ago. Okay, Nash was eighth. All right, that seems

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Speaker 1: about right. I know ESPN did it a couple years ago.

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Speaker 1: Nash was seventh. Yard Burker did it, you know, not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would imagine that every other two time

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Speaker 5: and I think that that is Reid's argument here, is

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you're getting just into those two, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: On all this, on all this, I mean he's got

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have the accomplishments of Steve.

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Speaker 1: They're all right there. I mean, look like Magic ain't

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Speaker 1: there's Stockton. So what now? Because Nash one two MVPs

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Speaker 4: But he is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would agree though that you don't hear

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Speaker 5: He just I think that people realize he played one

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Speaker 5: if he played today, what was it, what would he

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a precursor in a way to Curry.

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Speaker 1: I mean they've talked about that before. If like Curry

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs too, But.

437
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Speaker 1: So would you if you were weighing the two, who

438
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Speaker 1: do you have higher, Chris Paul or Steve Nash?

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess I have Chris Paul, but Steve Nash

440
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,239
Speaker 3: has Yeah, I mean those two MVPs. Chris Paul came

441
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Speaker 3: runner up MVP once. I mean, he's never going to

442
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Speaker 3: win an MVP himself, But I guess in terms of,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, a pure point guard, and yeah, I just

444
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Speaker 3: sort of think Chris Paul is a better player.

445
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Speaker 1: Okay, what about Stockton and Steve Nash.

446
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Stockton has the defense in there as well.

447
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 3: That Steve Nash doesn't have you know, Stockton eighteen straight

448
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 3: playoff appearances all NBA. He's you know, dream team, He's

449
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Speaker 3: got those accomplishments, went to the finals twice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think what happens with all these

451
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Speaker 2: ratings and all these lists is that it starts from

452
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Speaker 2: when players enter the league as to their popularity, how

453
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Speaker 2: they're seen as a college player. And Steve Nash obviously

454
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: was not a great college player, wasn't a big recruit,

455
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Speaker 2: and so it's sort of perpetual. The guys making the

456
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Speaker 2: guys and women making the lists are always the same

457
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Speaker 2: guys and women making the list throughout the years. So

458
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Speaker 2: I think it just keeps rolling, you know, like he's

459
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Speaker 2: never gonna he can never attain top three or top

460
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Speaker 2: four because but I never had the reputation from the beginning.

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can also just just not be top

462
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Speaker 1: three or top four too, just because there's three or

463
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Speaker 1: four better players. In this case, I think it's fair

464
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Speaker 1: to say, I'm not putting Steve Nash again, as much

465
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Speaker 1: as I love him over, No one's putting them over

466
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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson. I mean, I don't know if you're even

467
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Speaker 1: putting them over Isaiah Thomas. But again that's that one's

468
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Speaker 1: an interesting one because people have a varying opinion on

469
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas's career. Some people think he's madly underrated.

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Speaker 2: Four, but he is definitely unless he's seven or eight

471
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Speaker 2: or nine. Yeah, he's below kid. He's below Chris Paul already,

472
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Speaker 2: and Chris Paul's not done.

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Speaker 1: And then that's and that's the argument you, I guess

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Speaker 1: you're saying, And what our email are saying is like,

475
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Speaker 1: why why is he just not above them? But I

476
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Speaker 1: guess I just don't with those lists. I just don't

477
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Speaker 1: get all into the like, oh where do you have them?

478
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Speaker 6: Do you have them?

479
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Speaker 1: Six seventh, eighth for ninth? I could not give up.

480
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Speaker 1: It's like your top three, your top five, your top ten,

481
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Speaker 1: it's sort of like outside of especially the best, the greatest,

482
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Speaker 1: the goat or whatever, and then maybe even a top three. Okay,

483
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Speaker 1: I get that, because that's like your sort of Mount

484
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Speaker 1: Rushmore type thing you're building. But your top ten, you're

485
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Speaker 1: top ten. And if you're six through ten, I mean

486
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Speaker 1: to me, you're just you're a Hall of fame, awesome

487
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Speaker 1: mass player. It doesn't really matter to me, I guess true,

488
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Speaker 1: fun question, though, next one, Dear No Dunk's Crew. Every

489
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Speaker 1: NBA season, the post trade deadline changes create some of

490
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Speaker 1: my favorite games to watch this year. The data I

491
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Speaker 1: have circled his March seventeenth, when the Calves take on

492
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Speaker 1: the Rockets in the Ultimate Tallies Versus Smallies matchup. What

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Speaker 1: games or matchups are you looking forward to post All

494
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Speaker 1: Star game? That's from Nick pe We accidentally in a

495
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Speaker 1: way slipped this sort of tease for this question in

496
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Speaker 1: This Morning in Thursday's Daily Show ly and the one

497
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Speaker 1: I said, and I'm stealing it right from Mark Stein.

498
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Speaker 1: I saw it in his newsletter. It is that March

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth game between the Rockets and the Bucks, because

500
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Speaker 1: that is gonna be the first time Jannis goes head

501
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Speaker 1: to head with James Harden. After a couple of little

502
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Speaker 1: recent shots from the Greek Freak to the Beard, he

503
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Speaker 1: had the little zing during the All Star player draft

504
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Speaker 1: on February sixth, He essentially said he didn't select Harden

505
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Speaker 1: for his team because he dribbles too much. Yep, And

506
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Speaker 1: then you had After the game Sunday night, he announced

507
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Speaker 1: that the whole team's plan in the fourth quarter, their

508
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Speaker 1: strategy was to get the ball to whoever Harden was

509
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Speaker 1: guarding and just go at them. And it didn't seem

510
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Speaker 1: at all like he was joking. And I think this

511
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: is maybe a carryover from the whole MVP race.

512
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Speaker 3: Well James warn Yeah, he said that he felt he

513
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Speaker 3: was MVP last year. He felt that he had a

514
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Speaker 3: better season. He's had a few shots at Giannis in

515
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Speaker 3: the past, so it's carrying over. It's great, it's what

516
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: we won win. Some rivalries want some tension, wants some drama.

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Some.

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Speaker 1: March twenty fifth Rockets Bucks huge for me.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at a pseudo back to back here. March

521
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Speaker 5: first and third, the Philadelphia seventy six ers traveled to

522
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Speaker 5: Los Angeles. They played the Clippers on the first and

523
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Speaker 5: the Lakers on the third. If the Clippers are going

524
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Speaker 5: to be or sorry, if the Sixers are going to

525
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Speaker 5: be a serious title contender, if they're going to make

526
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Speaker 5: a run to the conference finals or even to the finals,

527
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Speaker 5: I feel like they need to win both of those games.

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Speaker 6: That's going to be tough to win both of them

529
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Speaker 6: in LA. On the road. They've been a terrible road team.

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Speaker 5: But show us you're taking it seriously, show us you're

531
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Speaker 5: doing everything you can to figure out your rotations. Maybe

532
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Speaker 5: Al Horford will continue to come off the bench during

533
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Speaker 5: this last part of the season, and that's the way

534
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Speaker 5: that they're able to build Kevin Street continuity and just

535
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: figure out their roles on this team. But with the

536
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 5: additions they made, with the changes they made to their

537
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 5: rotation with Horford, these are a couple of really great teams,

538
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Speaker 5: a couple of title contending teams, and if Philadelphia is

539
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Speaker 5: able to place themselves among those, that's huge for them,

540
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Speaker 5: you know, because that's the team that you look at

541
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Speaker 5: in the Eastern Conference slaying they should be. They should

542
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Speaker 5: be at least near the Bucks, and they're nowhere near him.

543
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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 6: They're in the Maras from two to six, just like

545
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Speaker 6: everybody else is. We're coming into the season. We thought

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Speaker 6: they were one of the top two teams.

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Speaker 4: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: I'm going back to the Bucks because they play the

549
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Speaker 3: Lakers March the sixth in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: And that could be a finals preview.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good.

552
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Speaker 3: And we saw the Lakers in the Box already once

553
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Speaker 3: this season. The Box got the win. And talking about

554
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Speaker 3: that All Star Game, Lebron had his shot blocked a

555
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Speaker 3: couple of times by Jannis A couple of a couple

556
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Speaker 3: of times he tried to just sort of flex his

557
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Speaker 3: muscles little and Yannis was right there.

558
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Speaker 1: So but Lebron got the win.

559
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Speaker 3: Lebron got the win, that's true, But that I think,

560
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Speaker 3: you know that that could be a real benchmark gain

561
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Speaker 3: there for the for the Bucks. Will they you know,

562
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Speaker 3: if they can get the season sweep over the Lakers,

563
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Speaker 3: I mean, they'll feel very very good about themselves. And

564
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Speaker 3: obviously they're pushing for seventy wins as well this season,

565
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Speaker 3: so everyone counts there at eight losses right now, so

566
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Speaker 3: they can afford five more over the season to crack seventy.

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Speaker 4: Will they do it?

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Speaker 1: Any concern that with them both those teams, Lakers and

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Speaker 1: Bucks being a potential finals matchup, that you know, coaches

570
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Speaker 1: keep their cards close to the close to their chest

571
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Speaker 1: and maybe don't play one of their star guys, don't

572
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Speaker 1: want to show them anything. Again with the idea that

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Speaker 1: they could meet up, I doubt it.

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Speaker 4: I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: I think Lebron has said he wants to play every

576
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Speaker 3: game if he's healthy, and I can't see Yanna sitting

577
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Speaker 3: out this one when he has a chance to to,

578
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Speaker 3: you know, beat Lebron on his home court, so I

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Speaker 3: don't think so it's an ESPN game too.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think Lebron already showed in the Ostar game he

582
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Speaker 2: wants to Guardiannis, which was pretty cool because I don't

583
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Speaker 2: think he did that in the first game at all

584
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Speaker 2: that they played the two of them, So he probably

585
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Speaker 2: won't do it in the second game either. The All

586
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Speaker 2: Star Game was just a little bit more important, I

587
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: think on the hierarchy of things, on the hierarchy of games.

588
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Speaker 2: For Jimmy Butler, the rest of the season is probably

589
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: to play TJ. Warren. Remember they got it a little

590
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Speaker 2: earlier this season. Jimmy Butler blew TJ. Warren it kiss

591
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Speaker 2: as he walked off the floor game two hands to

592
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Speaker 2: the old chesticles. If I do remember correctly, those two

593
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: do not like each other. TJ. Warren thinks he's on

594
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's level. Jimmy Butler does not believe that. Jimmy

595
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Speaker 2: Butler said postgame in that January game that what TJ.

596
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Warren did was truly disrespectful. I don't know if he

597
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: did anything that was disrespectful about if Jimmy Butler believes

598
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Speaker 2: that March twentieth, when the Heat visit the Pacers, there

599
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: shall be some fireworks next one here. Hey. One of

600
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Speaker 2: my favorite things to watch on YouTube are classic NBA games,

601
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Speaker 2: but I found it really difficult to find high definition

602
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: regular season or playoff basketball games pre two thousand and seven.

603
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Speaker 2: If you could watch or relive any full NBA season

604
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Speaker 2: of basketball in HD, what would you choose? It's gotta

605
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: be HD. For me, it's the three to four season.

606
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: It was the first time it really got into basketball,

607
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: and my only knowledge of players at that time came

608
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: just from the pictures on NBA dot Com, Slam Magazine,

609
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: and NBA Live. I want to truly relive the Lakers

610
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: super team, drama, rookies mellow Lebron and Wade, and one

611
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: time All Star seasons from Ron Artest and Michael Redd.

612
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that Michael Red season in HD. God, that

613
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: red shot Lefty shot.

614
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: Tests only a one time All Star. I find that weird.

615
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Speaker 2: Gavin in Tokyo, Japan with that email, what seasons are

616
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Speaker 2: you picking? And Gavin wants you to to remind you

617
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Speaker 2: it's in H.

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Speaker 1: It is funny. He's not wrong like you catch a

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Speaker 1: clip from like five oh six and it just looks

620
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Speaker 1: like it's from the forties. It's like, it really is

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Speaker 1: shockingly bad.

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Speaker 5: And when the footage came out, you were like, it'll

623
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Speaker 5: never be better than this.

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Speaker 1: Look at that, So crisp, I'll get it started. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I'd watch all of them again in HD, is the

626
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: true answer. But if I had to pick one and

627
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Speaker 1: give me, I want to pick one that I was

628
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: like too young to really appreciate because I was obviously

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Speaker 1: not watching it all that much, being only six or

630
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: seven at a time. But the eighty six eighty seven season,

631
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Speaker 1: give me that, bad boy, because you got Magic and

632
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Larry battling for another MVP and another championship with their

633
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: two respective squads. You got MJ young MJ scoring thirty

634
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: seven points per game. You got a young Barkley just

635
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: beast in on Philadelphia. You got even a great Hawks team,

636
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: Like maybe we're in Atlanta in this hypothetical, So now

637
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: we're going down to the Fortress to watch like a

638
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: fifty seven win Hawks team led by Nick and Doc Rivers. Yeah,

639
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: sure it's soon. That's real high definition test using your eyes. Yeah,

640
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: I take that back with you. That's true. My eyes

641
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: are bad right now, but yeah, eighty six eighty seven

642
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: to watch that one on TV.

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Speaker 6: In a few years.

644
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Speaker 5: To the nineteen ninety two ninety three season, the last

645
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Speaker 5: of the Bulls first three pizza season that I feel

646
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 5: like I remember, but it would be great to go

647
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: back and see if you actually do remember. It's also

648
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: Shack's rookie season. The Dallas Mavericks lost seventy games that year.

649
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 5: Charles Barkley stole an MVP. There were three backboards broken

650
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 5: that season.

651
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Speaker 4: Who did it Shothack, Shack, Shawn Camp.

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Speaker 1: Shack Shack and the other one is crazy Darvin Ham.

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Speaker 6: He did it in college.

654
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Speaker 5: Chris Morris. Chris Morris on the nets, the New Jersey

655
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Speaker 5: Nets back in the day, broke a backboard. So if

656
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Speaker 5: backboards are breaking, I'd like to see it in HD

657
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: because when you see the clips a shattered backboard, which

658
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Speaker 5: Morriss was, it's kind of like you can't really tell

659
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: what happens, just guys like stepping away. But you would

660
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: see those crystal clear shards following from that.

661
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Speaker 1: That's a great point, just to piggyback off of that.

662
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Speaker 1: I've been starting to watch Lego Masters. Would be watching

663
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Speaker 1: Lego Masters on Fox JD No, oh yeah, first off,

664
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Speaker 1: get in.

665
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Speaker 7: It's like there's no time is the Bachelor is five

666
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 7: hours a week, and then Survivor them get.

667
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Speaker 1: Rid of the batchelor happen in this season.

668
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Speaker 2: They just watch during the show. You're doing stuff during

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 7: I'm cutting this morning show right now.

671
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Speaker 1: Here's what I wanted to say about the Lego Masters.

672
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Speaker 1: You're talking about the shattering of the backboards. On the

673
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Speaker 1: second episode of Lego Masters. You had to build their

674
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Speaker 1: creation and then explode it, blow it up, and they

675
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Speaker 1: shot it in high definition. You see like a million

676
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Speaker 1: lego pieces get smashed by a bat or dropped on

677
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Speaker 1: the floor. It looks cool. So yeah, that would look

678
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Speaker 1: awesome or any sort of backboard smashing high definition there.

679
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Speaker 1: Check it out. It's very funny, Will Arnett, very very

680
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: funny reality show if you want to call that whatever

681
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: it is. Host, he's hilarious.

682
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Speaker 5: Because they make crazy that Lego Masters is happening in

683
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty, not the nineteen ninety ninety three season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. It's been around for a while,

685
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Speaker 1: could have been done in the seventies. But it makes

686
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Speaker 1: fun of the genre of those type of reality shows.

687
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: It's really really well done. I'm not kidding. I'm all

688
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Speaker 1: into it. But you can watch it on Hulu without

689
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: the if you got the you know, the super Hulu

690
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called, you about to watch. I'm in

691
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: baby fight right through.

692
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Speaker 2: I'm going to rewind a couple of years from Trace

693
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: ninety ninety one for similar reason to Skeets. I, you know,

694
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Speaker 2: remember the nineties somewhat, but if we're going back to

695
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 2: that early I just want to watch those guys in

696
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: my adulthood, you know, because I graduated high school two

697
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Speaker 2: thousand and the nineties. Okay some of them, but I

698
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: wanted I wanted all those great players in their peak.

699
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Speaker 2: So I went all the way back to ninety ninety one.

700
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Because you get as far as MVP voting, you get

701
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: MJ MJ number two, my Magic Johnson, Barkley Malone. You

702
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: mentioned them, Skeets, they're bird all those all those dudes

703
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: at a time where they were sort of crossing over.

704
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Speaker 2: That's my pick.

705
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Speaker 1: Here's a problem with some of our answers, though. I

706
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: just realized, like I mean, mid eighties, early nineties, maybe

707
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Speaker 1: like probably even when you're picking their trade like one

708
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: league pass didn't exist and too even like I mean,

709
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Speaker 1: like I can't imagine every Hawk scheme was on the

710
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: like on TV. So it was like, there's not gonna

711
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: be a ton to pick from. It's just gonna be

712
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Speaker 1: sort of the national games at the time, right or

713
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Speaker 1: are we hypothetical?

714
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

715
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Speaker 6: No, I know.

716
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I hadn't thought about it until right

717
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: this second. Yeah, you're saying in this hypothetical, you get

718
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Speaker 1: to we got high D HD cameras everywhere and we

719
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Speaker 1: can just broadcast everywhere. Okay, that's good.

720
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Speaker 5: Then I was just taking all of all of television

721
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Speaker 5: and getting up updated to HD. So like Family Matters

722
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Speaker 5: now you're seeing Steve Rkle in HD.

723
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's that's where we're going.

724
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Speaker 2: You would pick Family Matters.

725
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Speaker 6: If you could watch one season of any would it

726
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 6: be in HD?

727
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Speaker 1: The wonder?

728
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Speaker 6: Oh interesting because that was Kevin Urdle will be going

729
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 6: crazy once he finally gets his first as ZIP we go.

730
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Speaker 3: I'm going to the eighty eight eighty nine season. That

731
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: was the first one that I really got hold of,

732
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: made it to Australia. A couple of games we had

733
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Speaker 3: La Dell ecls going off one night for twenty seven points.

734
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Speaker 3: So I've got a few of those games tucked away.

735
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Speaker 3: But of course that was as well. The playoffs that

736
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: season were great. That was the shot for Jordan in

737
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Speaker 3: that first round. They then upset the Knicks. In the

738
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Speaker 3: second round, you had the Lakers over the Sonics. It

739
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Speaker 3: was a sweep, but it was a great series. Then

740
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Speaker 3: of course you had the Bulls and the Pistons where

741
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Speaker 3: the Bulls were up to one against the Pistons and

742
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Speaker 3: eventually the Pistons won, And then the Lakers had that

743
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Speaker 3: very very I don't think this has ever happened before.

744
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Speaker 3: They had four sweeps in the playoffs and didn't win

745
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: the championship. They swept, swept, swept, got swept. Ah See, yeah.

746
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Speaker 2: You could pick any season you're gonna go back to

747
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Speaker 2: the season you've paid the most attention to.

748
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to watch it again. You know, imagine that,

749
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: like you know, we used to get these games on

750
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: at twelve thirty on a Friday night. I'd record them

751
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: and you'd watching for breakfast.

752
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if.

753
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: I were in HD, you imagine that even better.

754
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: What were you what were you eating for breakfast at

755
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 1: that time.

756
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: Probably fruit loops, rice bubbles. We called them Christmas honey smacks.

757
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if you have honey speaks.

758
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what are they called smacks?

759
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: I think I just sack.

760
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was having smack for breakfast.

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Speaker 1: Next one, Hey dunk A use Mark here before I

762
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Speaker 1: hit you in my question. I just want to thank

763
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: you for always putting no fun, thoughtful and respectable content.

764
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: After months of listening to No Dunks, you guys really

765
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: inspired me and I recently started my own podcast, So

766
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: thanks for being awesome. Anyway, here's my question. Who's a

767
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Speaker 1: player that thrives slash thrived off of a reputation that

768
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Speaker 1: was undeserved or that lost its truth? My example, DeAndre Jordan.

769
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Speaker 1: I used to love them in Lob City, but ever

770
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Speaker 1: since he resigned with the Clippers and went to Denver

771
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: and the New York and Brooklyn, he has constantly given

772
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Speaker 1: some of the least effort on defense of any big

773
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: that I can remember, barring Hassan Whiteside. Yeah, broadcasters routinely

774
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: talk about DJ's defensive prowess. So who do you guys

775
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: have again? That's from Mark. Congrats on the podcast. Mark. Yeah,

776
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: a player that maybe thrives or did thrive off a

777
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: reputation and it's just not you know, it's not really

778
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: true anymore. Does anyone come to mind.

779
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going with Rondo in the similar vein. People

780
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: still talk about him as a great defensive player. He

781
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: hasn't been a good defensive player for years.

782
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens with a lot of guys. Yeah, like

783
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: even Kobe, who was pretty elite defensive player for a

784
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: good chunk of his career early on.

785
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he was just he.

786
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Speaker 1: Wasn't all that good on that end. A lot of

787
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: the reason probably had to focus offensively trying to carry

788
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: his team, but he kept making all defensive teams. Yes,

789
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: just by reputation, Yeah, good to Rondo's a really solid

790
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: one though. Even people just still I think think Rondo

791
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: is awesome. Oh yeah, you know, because then they'll have

792
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: those little flashes.

793
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: Too, like oh yeah, that's the rundo he makes a

794
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: good pass.

795
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Speaker 4: And that's the playoff front does back.

796
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Speaker 1: You guys.

797
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Speaker 6: I got to Mary Carroll though, I don't know, I

798
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: don't know.

799
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like he had a ton of

800
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 5: success to be basing this reputation off. He's got one

801
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 5: fifth of a Player of the Month award. But he's

802
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: just always been a guy who, like when the team

803
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: adds to Mary Carroll, you're like, remember how great he

804
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 5: fit with those Hawks teams. He can hit some threes,

805
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: and you know he's now going to be a Houston

806
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: Rocket and he got it. There's a little bit of buzz,

807
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: a little Mary Carroll buzz. But I just think he's

808
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: just a guy now, just a well dressed guy. So

809
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: maybe that's why the Rockets picked him up.

810
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's injuries. I think that took away his

811
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: defensive prowess, but he doesn't he doesn't deserve that reputation anymore, unfortunately.

812
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, Masiuzuri made one mistake in his life and

813
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: it was that one. I went the other direction. I

814
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: went with a guy who's flipped his reputation the other

815
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: direction because he had a bad one defensively. But now

816
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: brook Lopez is really really good on that end with

817
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks. He's a plus defender. That means people

818
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: are actually aware of him on that end instead of

819
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: trying to go at him, like Yeahnis scoring at James Harden.

820
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: People used to do that to brook Lopez, but now

821
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: he's moving his feet. He's part of one of the

822
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: best defenses, if not the best defense in the league

823
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: as their backbone. Because he's great. He's really Somehow he's

824
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: gotten lighter and more nimbly feed out there as he's

825
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: gotten into his thirties. It's it's impressive.

826
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Speaker 1: I went with mister big shot John cy Phillips because

827
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: this is what I remember from Belps. He he hit

828
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: big shots. I mean he hit enough of them to

829
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Speaker 1: get the damn nickname. He hit a couple, right, Yeah,

830
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: in timely shots. Don't get me wrong.

831
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Speaker 6: What's his biggest shot?

832
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great That's the crazy thing that I mean.

833
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: I know there were a couple obviously a part of

834
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: the Pistons in some of those playoff runs. He did

835
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: hit a couple, But you're right, I can't against right, Yeah?

836
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Speaker 1: Is that the Yeah?

837
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, that's not that.

838
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Speaker 1: But I remember I remember this going around back of

839
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Speaker 1: the time, and I did look it up just to confirm,

840
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: and it appears to be true. Remember the site eighty

841
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: two games dot com. Yeah, maybe it's still in existence.

842
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I guess they did. Then they crunched the numbers for

843
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: billups like a good chunk of a season like O

844
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: three to nine, and they were crunching all the numbers

845
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: for all these guys, like to see whether or not

846
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: people were truly clutch. Billups had shot six for thirty

847
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: seven on game deciding shots in that like six year span.

848
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: That's sixteen percent. I mean, it was near the bottom

849
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: of the list for guys that they sort of had

850
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: calculated or tallied up. And but yet look, he's got

851
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: the he got the nickname, and he and he had

852
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: hit some shots. And I don't want Pistons fans to

853
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: get all upset, no doubt. Guy came through a couple

854
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: of times. I know he had one week in the

855
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: regular season two where he hit like in the span

856
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: of like three or four games, hit like some game winners,

857
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: some Joe Johnson like game winners, right, and then again

858
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but he wasn't. He didn't come through

859
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: in the clutch all that much, is my point.

860
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: I feel as well for Raptors fans. He hit a

861
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: couple against the Raptors, which sort of you know, well

862
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: that sounds right, Yeah it was usually, but that's a

863
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: great choice because I thought that about him as well,

864
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: like he had this reputation.

865
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 4: But then there were times was like, man, I haven't.

866
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: Seen him actually hit like a big shot for so long,

867
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: but basic like gott to go to mister big shot

868
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: not tonight.

869
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: It's like with big Shot Rob, like Robert Orry, It's

870
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: like you can immediately your mind goes to like at

871
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: least three or four of like okay, yeah, those those

872
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: were big shots, hence the nickname. It is more difficult

873
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: with mister big shot.

874
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of nicknames, I threw a big shot into

875
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 5: the Basketball Reference nicknames. There are four players who have

876
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: big shot as part of their nicknames.

877
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 6: Who you got Okay, so we got Chauncey, Chauncey and Rob.

878
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: Does Robert Rorry count as too, because some people like

879
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: to com big shot Robs like big.

880
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: Shot Rob and Bob are both listened for his big shots. Okay,

881
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 6: you mentioned one of the other guys, skeets by by

882
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 6: accident sort of like no.

883
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 5: You intentionally mentioned he did hit a lot of big shots,

884
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 5: hit a lot of game winners.

885
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: Joe Johnson big shot Joe.

886
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 6: And then there's a current player.

887
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: Oh, he's a professor of big shots, professor big shots,

888
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 5: they call him.

889
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 6: Do you think he hit a game winner this year?

890
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: But is this a bit of a strategy.

891
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Euro, there you go, Alita professor big shots Wow.

892
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: Because it sounds like be Elitza's for people who can't

893
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: pronounce Alitzay.

894
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: That was a big shot. The one that he hit.

895
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 6: Got his pH d.

896
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta you really, just gotta hit, just gotta

897
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: hit one. No, I think you need to in like

898
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: a playoff series.

899
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: Form one one buzz of bad and one a game in.

900
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: All right, shout out to mister big shot.

901
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Next one here, Hello, fellow no dunkers. I'm an NBA

902
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: fan from the Netherlands and the NBA sadly isn't very

903
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: popular here. I always have to explain why I like

904
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: it over football. Part of the reason it's not that

905
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: popular is because there aren't many Dutch players who made

906
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: it to the NBA. In a show last week, you

907
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: named one of six Dutch NBA players, Dan Gadzurich. Can

908
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: you name the other five? I'll name them for you.

909
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: Francisco Elson, Rick Smith's Geart Hammock Sween Nator and Hank

910
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: Beinders Trey's favorite player.

911
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 6: Do you love Hank Benders?

912
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: The question to you is why don't more Dutch people

913
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: make it to the NBA some info, dutch Men are

914
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: the tallest in the world, averaging one point eight three

915
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: eight meters just over six feet that is tall. Yeah,

916
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: we are competitive in Foeba three by three. Hold then

917
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: what is that? Three on three? Yeah, three three by

918
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: three we are competitive and three on three basketball winning

919
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: silver in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Even though the

920
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 2: country is small, we produce plenty of athletes in other sports.

921
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: That's from Baron.

922
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you tell us Baron, you're making great points,

923
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: very tall, yeah, nisan and super athletic, I mean the

924
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: great Olympics. Yeah, and they like have a mass, like

925
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: a passion for sports in the country that at least

926
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: I know of sort of just again watching the Olympics,

927
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: where's the basketball.

928
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Well, Nick van Nexell, Yeah, no, I mean, who knows,

929
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: who knows why basketball hasn't taken off over there. But

930
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: maybe it's just because, you know, the Dutch tend to

931
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: be more focused on football. That's you know that you've

932
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: got some legendary soccer players, you know, Burkeham van Basten,

933
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: Johann Krouth, total football, total football exactly.

934
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 6: I read their Wikipedia page Once upon a time.

935
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: Richard Krychek one Wimbledon to tennis player so athletes. Peter

936
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: van den Hoogan Band was in the Race of the

937
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: Century in Athens, you know, came third. Still, great job.

938
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: What did he come second? Who knows?

939
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: It's probably coaching, the fact that they don't have a

940
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: lot of vets in the sport and facilities. It seems

941
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: to be what what's always the the answer, Well, you

942
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: have to look to coaching and facilities.

943
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 5: I would say, looks like they need the super accessible, relatable,

944
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 5: short skilled guy because all these names they mentioned, they're

945
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: like six ten or above, except for Hank Benders, who

946
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: was six foot six in nineteen forty seven, which I

947
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: assume is quite tall for the nineteen forties, you know.

948
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 6: So you know, whenever we.

949
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: See the Dutch Steph Curry, somebody who can like handle

950
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: the ball and shoot from the outside, that's when kids

951
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: get super interested.

952
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: Right right right, because you can look at that athlete

953
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: and go, oh, I could I could do that.

954
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: I don't have to be I don't know if I'll

955
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 5: be seven foot four, but maybe I can shoot threes.

956
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully it happens. Good email next one here

957
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: from Walt in Birmingham, Alabama, Hale and well met Dinkington's

958
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm a Pelicans fan and I'm therefore required to honor

959
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: and defend Drew Holiday at all costs. His performance against

960
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: the Blazers in the playoffs few years back and still

961
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: one of the most dominant all round series I've ever

962
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: seen from a player that said, as good as he's been,

963
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: he's never consistently performed on that level before or since.

964
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Who are some players who you always overrate on the

965
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: strength of one playoff series, game or individual moment of greatness?

966
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: Linsanity comes to mind, as does Goran Dragic's vengeance quarter

967
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: against the Spurs in twenty ten. Thanks again, that's from

968
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Walt in Birmingham.

969
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: A couple of great examples there. Yeah, you know, lind

970
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: Sanity and Dragic. Guy, I continue.

971
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: To root for.

972
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm an American now saying root for. Kenneth Reid in twenty

973
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: fourteen on Team USA made the All Tournament team. I

974
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: think he finished second in MVP voting behind Kyrie iving

975
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: twelve twelve points. I's been in a tournament like that.

976
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Shorter games, yeah, and guys aren't usually you know, scoring

977
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: a ton. He probably shot like eighty sixty three. But

978
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: now he's out of the league and last year is

979
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: on Houston, and I thought that's a great situation for

980
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: him in Houston. All he has to do is basically

981
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: run from rim to rim and he could end up

982
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: averaging almost a double double in that lineup on that squad.

983
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: But he just hasn't been able to stick in the NBA,

984
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: which really surprises me. And I always talk about him still,

985
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: even last year when the Team USA team, I thought

986
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Clangelo even gives him a

987
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: shot because he performed so well for them four years ago.

988
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: Well I guess it was five years ago last year.

989
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, one of those guys that I wonder why

990
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: he's not in the NBA. It's not like he was

991
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 3: a bad teammate or anything like that. He sort of

992
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: knew his lane. He stayed in his lane. I think

993
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: he wasn't out there shooting threes. He was like a

994
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: Sean Marion light in a lot of ways. But just

995
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: he's probably finished in the NBA. I mean, he could

996
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: still find his way on a rouster at some point,

997
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: but you certainly we're not going to see him in

998
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: a main role on a team anyway.

999
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 4: The animal, great nickname, Yeah, awesome, one of.

1000
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: The best nick names. He had a cool look too, Yeah,

1001
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: the whole package. What you guys got.

1002
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas for me is a guy who I'm kind

1003
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: of always willing to give another shot too, because he

1004
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 5: went for that crazy season with the Celtics twenty nine

1005
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: six assists, shot thirty eight percent from three, and was

1006
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 5: King of the Fourth You know, he finished fifth I

1007
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 5: believe in MVP voting, and that was the backup the

1008
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: Brinstruck moment, and then we know what happened in the playoffs.

1009
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 6: His sister passed the way.

1010
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 5: He played through an injury, and since then he's played

1011
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: eighty four games. But I'm still always like you're telling me,

1012
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas couldn't get hot in.

1013
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 6: A fourth quarter.

1014
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: He couldn't make three threes in a fourth quarter in

1015
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: two minutes right when you need it.

1016
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 6: He is without a team right now.

1017
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: Maybe somebody will pick him up to try and win

1018
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: a quarter somewhere along the line in the playoffs. But

1019
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 5: it's just wild to think how quickly his career has

1020
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 5: petered out, considering that season with the Celtics.

1021
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: I've got Solomon Hill. If you remember that playoff performance, Yeah,

1022
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: the big Solomon Hill. I guys want to talk about

1023
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: guys who showed out in one playoffs areas got paid.

1024
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: Was it three for thirty six or something crazy for

1025
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: when he he was a pacer back then. Yeah, but

1026
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: this is the Jerome James Award right when he uh,

1027
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: this is really it when he fooled the Knicks after

1028
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: having a decent run with the Seattle Sonics in five

1029
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: and the Knicks just said he will pay, you will

1030
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: pay you will pay, you will pay you and it

1031
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: didn't work out. And one recent guy who I still

1032
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: believe in Karslavert. I know no one's gonna pick this whatsoever,

1033
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: but Karossel had a really good playoffs last year. It

1034
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: was only five games against the the Sixers in the

1035
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: first round, but he bawled out, averaging like twenty two points.

1036
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: And people forget that, uh because they don't remember that

1037
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: series whatsoever. So I understand that. But he's he's a

1038
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: baller and I think he'll be he'll be very good

1039
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: as long as the injuries don't catch.

1040
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Up to him.

1041
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: You fought the fought overshot at that series, didn't it?

1042
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: The mystery fought wasn't it the sixes in the nets,

1043
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: the big fot on the bench there, Yeah, Joel and

1044
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 3: be Yeah, everyone was lucky forever.

1045
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1046
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean you could pick a ton of guys that

1047
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: timed their career as well, playing for a good couple

1048
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: of months or maybe even a playoff series when the

1049
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: cap exploded and everybody got paid in twenty sixteen, like

1050
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: Bismack Biambo, I mean, I got a four year, seventy

1051
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. He grabbed a couple of rebounds for

1052
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: the Raptors in sort of obviously their longish playoff run

1053
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: at the time, going as deep as they ever had.

1054
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: And there are many others examples of that year everybody

1055
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: just getting the huge paychecks.

1056
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, even Solomon Hill was that yeah, right, sixty

1057
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: that one too, Yeah, and Baysmore.

1058
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 4: And Matthew del got four and forty right right.

1059
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: People got paid. The money was there, and you know

1060
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 1: you just had to play, had played decently well and convinced.

1061
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 4: A team like, oh yeah, you could do that for us?

1062
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1063
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: Why not?

1064
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Why not?

1065
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: What's cracking my omelets? If the grit and grind era

1066
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: having ended in Memphis, I want to submit for consideration

1067
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: the rise and Shine era as the name for this

1068
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: new Grizzlies core of Jaw, Dylan Brooks, Triple J and

1069
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: Brandon Clark. My reasoning is that Rise and Shine follows

1070
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: up with the connotation of a tenacious, ready to get

1071
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: to work team that the Grit and Grind team had.

1072
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: Plus it has the same quick roll off the tongue

1073
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: feel that made Grit and Grind stick. As for the

1074
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: words themselves, Rise relates to the insane high flyingness of

1075
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: Jaw and company, while Shine relates to the flashiness displayed

1076
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: particularly during fast breaks. I know it's really but Jaw

1077
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: seems like he's got the special sauce and this team

1078
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: is gonna be a consistent mainstay for at least a

1079
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: few seasons. Thanks. That's from Jared Ell in Glastonbury, Connecticut.

1080
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: It's not bad.

1081
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1082
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, good explanation, good reasoning right there. Yep, it works.

1083
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: It's a saying you've heard.

1084
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: You tied in his greeting to us with a little

1085
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: Rise and Shine. What's cracking my omelets.

1086
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Nice, nice work, but it's gonna be tough because the Grizzlies.

1087
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: Their hashtag I think still on Twitter is hashtag grind City.

1088
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: So they really are holding on to the great and

1089
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: grind era. Just fine, Rise and Grind, riseing grind works.

1090
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: You see that all the time on Twitter. Yeah, I

1091
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: woke up Rise and Grind. Let's get that spread. And

1092
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: then they're really into like the GRIZ next gen right,

1093
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: like the next generation here. But yeah, yeah, mashed the

1094
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: two together. I like it. I don't mind it.

1095
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: Grind, don't mind it.

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00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: And grind that's even better. You're right than Rise and

1097
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Shine punch up. Yeah. Hey, that's how we get to

1098
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: these great ideas. Chared next one here. Hey, no, dunk Ruse,

1099
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your Hall of very good discussion. From

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00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I discussed the topic with

1101
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: a couple of friends and two names that led to

1102
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: the most lively debates where Draymond Green and andre iguodala

1103
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: I was on the side. The boat are definite Hall

1104
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: of famers by winning three NBA championships. Iggy has a

1105
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: Finals MVP and All Star Game appearance and two All

1106
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: Defensive Teams. Draymond has a Defensive Player of Your Trophy,

1107
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: three All Star appearances, five All Defensive Teams, and two

1108
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: NBA nods. My friends argued that they are actually Hall

1109
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: of Very Good players though, because their career stats are

1110
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: quite average and not Hall of Fame worthy. I think

1111
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the titles will ultimately get them in, but I have

1112
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: to admit my opinion is not as strong as it

1113
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: was initially. I would love to get your thoughts on

1114
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: if those two are Hall of Fame or Hall of

1115
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Very Good based on their careers up to this point.

1116
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: That's from Jacob w talking about Igodala and Draymond Green.

1117
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 7: There this is a fair point.

1118
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: We've got the Natesmith Basketball Hall of Fame, and everybody

1119
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: can be in mostly.

1120
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: Stats or accomplishments more because you know, three championships is heavy.

1121
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's heavy, and.

1122
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: Then some accolades. I mean Draymond's got a lot of that. Yeah,

1123
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: it's like the more. When you read that, you're like, damn,

1124
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: that's good already. Yeah, and then at it with the titles,

1125
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: and I think that's definitely enough for a Hall of Fame.

1126
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: I think a Goodala is more of a like, okay, yeah, yeah,

1127
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: probably maybe. I think that's the one I struggle with

1128
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more.

1129
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: I think I have him into yeah, because he was

1130
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: in an All Star on the Sixers as a lead guy, right,

1131
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: I think that that helps.

1132
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like you're never gonna really, we're

1133
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: probably never gonna see Raymond Green as a news that's

1134
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: the best guy on his team.

1135
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: No, things aren't going too well right now, exactly.

1136
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1137
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: No, So Andrea Goodala, when he was anointed that number

1138
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: one role, he was still an All Star and he

1139
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 2: could still do that, and he's still capable of playing

1140
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: great offense and being a great defender, and Draymond doesn't

1141
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: have that offensive ability. Really, it's tough. It's very tough though,

1142
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: once you start including guys in this in this area,

1143
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just you're kind of just putting in

1144
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: guys that won finals, champion one.

1145
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: And that's the question to me, because these guys Draymond,

1146
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 5: Draymond I have a head of Iguadala in the in

1147
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 5: the getting into the or to the Hall of Fame rankings,

1148
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: for sure.

1149
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 6: But Michael Cooper's not in the Hall of Fame.

1150
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 5: He won five titles, eight time All Defense and what

1151
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: a Defensive Player of the Year.

1152
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because people don't respect or it's tough to

1153
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: sort of put merit to defensive players. I mean, how

1154
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: important it really is. I mean, obviously is important, but

1155
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the issue here with both of these

1156
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: guys Igodollo as well. They're yeah, their stats don't wow

1157
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: you because they're not offensive players. So it's like there

1158
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: are not huge points per games and even assists and

1159
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: rebounds whatever. It's like their impact was defensive. That's where

1160
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: they made their money and that's how they helped teams

1161
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: win championships.

1162
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: I mean, sorry, go ahead, his career averages right now

1163
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 3: and nine points and seven rebounds, like, yeah, that's obviously

1164
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: not going to get him in there, but his impact

1165
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: on those championship teams is undeniable.

1166
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but what do you think, what do you think

1167
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: Ben Wallace's averages are in points and boards career?

1168
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: I rack, I'm guessing ten and nine.

1169
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 6: Well, no, you're ten under ten for points.

1170
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: Under ten for both, which is a little amazing. I mean,

1171
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: he had a lot of sort of just sort of

1172
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: dud years, you know, at the start of his career,

1173
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: and then even later on he averaged not even six

1174
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: points per game for his career. Yeah, and then nine

1175
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: points six rebounds, so just under ten. So six and ten.

1176
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: But four time Defensive.

1177
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: Player of the Year, you know, elite.

1178
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, a champion, a couple of All Star Games, a

1179
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: couple of All NBA.

1180
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 4: Some people don't consider him that whole.

1181
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's my point, Like so and Cooper's a

1182
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: good one, Like Trada said, it's like, yeah, I mean

1183
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: I think you should have defensive players, you know, should

1184
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: be rewarded for the for an unbelievable career. Yeah. I

1185
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: get why it's more difficult to maybe determine who they are,

1186
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, if Coop should be in, Ben Wallace should

1187
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: be in, you know, like m Tumbo has a little

1188
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: bit more offensive game, you know, in terms of just numbers,

1189
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: but you know, he's he's known as a defensive player

1190
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: and an elite defensive players. Same with Draymond and Niggis. So yeah,

1191
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I would have all these sort of guys in.

1192
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think people came around to Andre Gudala

1193
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: and his role just sort of as you know, as

1194
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: a role player. They gave him a lot of credit

1195
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: for being that role player. Well sometimes you guys, don't

1196
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, Igodala he averaged nearly twenty points a game

1197
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: one year. He scored a lot, but then everyone understood.

1198
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: You know what, you need a role player like this

1199
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: on a on a championship team, and so I don't know.

1200
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: He kind of plays both sides of the coin as

1201
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: a number one guy and as a defender who was

1202
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: really really key obviously stopping Lebron in twenty sixteen and

1203
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: that's why or twenty fifteen, and that's why you got

1204
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: that thing that Finals MVP, which is kind of weird

1205
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: to say, Andregadella Finals MVP.

1206
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: And Dennis Rodman is in the Hall of Fame and

1207
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: helped out no doubt by five championship. Yeah, like if

1208
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Denis Robin doesn't have a championship, I don't know, is

1209
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: he a Hall of Famer with like sort of like

1210
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: you're saying Cooper accolades, eight time All Defensive and the

1211
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: two defensive Player of the Years and obviously a rebound champ.

1212
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: Not a lot of All Star Games though, not a

1213
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: lot of All NBA nods.

1214
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, probably not to say probably not, but.

1215
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: Because it's average, but I mean what he averaged. He

1216
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: just has the crazy thing where he's like the greatest

1217
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: rebounder of all time basically like average like thirteen sure

1218
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: didn't score the ball Ton, but that's uh, get them in.

1219
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Put the show some love to the defensive guys. I

1220
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: think they're both in Hall of Famers, Jacob, I'm glad

1221
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: you're debating with your buddies though.

1222
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: Next one here, good day, No Dunk's lads, Clay here

1223
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: from sunny Perth, Western Australia. One thing I absolutely hated

1224
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: when I first started listening to your show was your

1225
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: outro song, that odd genre hodgepodge of pop psychedelic lounge

1226
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: elevator flower power. It's gonna be groove a man. Some

1227
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: I read those o's and I can't do it. JD's

1228
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: singing it for me. It's gonna be groove aoo. That right, Yeah, Yeah,

1229
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: I hated it? What was this hipster crap? I found

1230
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: myself pressing stop on my iPhone as quickly as I

1231
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: possibly could, in a futile attempt to prevent even one

1232
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: single solitary note hitting my ear drums. And then a

1233
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: strange thing happened. It implanted. I grew from avoiding it

1234
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: to tolerating it, to not minding it, to liking it, to

1235
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: bopping along and singing to it, to finally, I have

1236
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: to know what this song is I wanted in my library.

1237
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 2: I did a quick Google search and found the song

1238
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: Blossom's Dream by Stereo Venus, cool trippy album cover. I

1239
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: downloaded not only Blossom but the whole album, and I

1240
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: bloody well loved it. It's really funky, perfect music for

1241
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: a barbecue, and a few EMU exports on my dead I'm.

1242
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: More of a VB guy myself.

1243
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the name of the beer.

1244
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah exports. Okay, sounds like it cigarettes.

1245
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, I started playing at home and my family bloody

1246
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: hates it. They're giving me the serious side eye treatment.

1247
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: My thirteen year old daughter thinks I'm losing it, my

1248
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: eleven year old son laughs at me, and my wife

1249
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: just shakes her head. However, I remain undeterred and play

1250
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: the album whenever I can, including car trips with the family.

1251
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: As a longtime Hall of Fame agitator, my favorite thing

1252
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: to do at the moment is to crank it with

1253
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: the car window is down while I'm picking up my

1254
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: daughter from high school. Have you ever loved something that

1255
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: was that has driven your family bat crazy? And or

1256
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: have you ever absolutely hated something at first and then

1257
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: grown to love it. That's from Clay so two parter

1258
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: ye do something to drive your family nuts, or hated

1259
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 2: something at first then grown to love.

1260
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: It, like Clay has with our weird outro song. I

1261
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: think I would pick every song JD's ever picked for

1262
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 1: our show. First time I heard it, I'm like, Oh,

1263
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna be annoying, Oh that's weird. By the fifth time,

1264
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what a banger. You just have a

1265
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: You just know you know the trends JD before they

1266
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: even happen.

1267
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 7: Way ahead, way ahead of everybody, especially Perth, Australia. You

1268
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 7: still have silverchair down there, probably Jimmy Baums.

1269
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: Perth is a beautiful city. I will say it's just

1270
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: a long way. Australia is a long way from the

1271
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: rest of the world. Perth is a long way from Australia.

1272
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: It's what miles out there, but beautiful, great people. Hit

1273
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: down to the cot on a Sunday.

1274
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to go. Have an email export Yeah, absolutely all.

1275
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: Are you going to answer?

1276
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: I'm going for the second part of the answer, Believe

1277
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: it or not.

1278
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 4: I used to hate Greg Popovich. Were the passion.

1279
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: Wow, we're that passion even at the Olympics in two

1280
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: thousand and four and anthens I even told him to.

1281
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: Sit down when he got up.

1282
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: Greg I was in the crowd and there was a

1283
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: controversial called Larry Brown was a coach, and Popovich got

1284
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: up to sort of complain. I had a few not

1285
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: Emo exports.

1286
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: What are the Athos tests? Is that the Greek beer?

1287
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: And there's mythos, myths, mythos, that's it.

1288
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd had a few mythos and Pops got up,

1289
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: Sit down, Popovich, idiot?

1290
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Are they playing Australia?

1291
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1292
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm like, why are you so invested in the well?

1293
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: You know, I've had a few games, so I probably

1294
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: told him a few times. But then I agree to

1295
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 3: love him. I just used to love pop I still

1296
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: do you love.

1297
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Him more than anyone I know. You're the only person

1298
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: I know that watches every one of his postchme scrums.

1299
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's much anymore, he stop a little bit, but

1300
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: back in his day he was great.

1301
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: All right, come.

1302
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Around on, pop.

1303
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: Well, My wife Danielle hates it when I mow the

1304
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: grass as the sun's going down, Like I wait till

1305
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: the last minute until I can barely see the grass,

1306
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: and then I get out there and I fire it up,

1307
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: and she hates it. She thinks it's a noise issue,

1308
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: that I shouldn't be mowing the lawn as the sun's

1309
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: going down.

1310
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: So it's summertime, so it's pretty I guess what eight late,

1311
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: maybe nine?

1312
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably factors in that we have a child and

1313
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: that the lawnmower is perring pretty loudly.

1314
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: Are you waiting I've dropped pure because it's so damn hot.

1315
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: Or well, yeah, I don't know, just it just depends.

1316
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: It just depends on the day. Yeah, you either got

1317
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: a mobile at seven a m. Yeah, I got mowed

1318
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. But you know, my

1319
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: lawnmowers really really loud. I've I've souped it up and

1320
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: dropped it a couple of inches. Got some light yeah,

1321
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: so uh yeah, the muffler's kind of fallen off. Electric guy,

1322
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: I know I should get.

1323
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: One of you. Luckily don't have like that big of

1324
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: land tom or is it or is it one of

1325
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: those deceiving ones. I mean, obviously can picture it doesn't

1326
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: take that. If you had that corner lot beside you,

1327
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, you'd be out there forever. Yoh yeah, right, yeah.

1328
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 5: You got a think Trey Bravo Reality TV, and when

1329
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 5: Laura started watching them, like who are these people?

1330
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 6: Housewives? I'll never watch this?

1331
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 5: And now I'm setting timers on my phone so that

1332
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 5: I make sure that I catch the opening quotes from

1333
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: Lisa Renna.

1334
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

1335
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a there was a coffee shop in

1336
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 5: Chicago that I went to a couple of times when

1337
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 5: we were there for All Star, and on the walls

1338
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 5: were oil color paintings of all the housewives. I was like, man,

1339
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 5: this might be a great Valentine's Day gift to bring

1340
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 5: home an oil painting of the Countess lu Anne. I

1341
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: couldn't pull the trader on it. But it's like she says, money,

1342
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 5: buy your class my friends. But yeah, now I'm I'm

1343
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 5: a mag time pompad And Dwayne Wade went on Andy

1344
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 5: Cohen this week, so I don't feel too bad about it.

1345
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 6: If he's in the Bravo Reality TV we all should be.

1346
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then they're like, you're not. You're not a

1347
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: below deck guy, right? You never?

1348
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 6: I don't have enough time.

1349
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never go below the deck. Yeah, that's hit

1350
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: the waters times different out there in international it lose

1351
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: track of time. Speaking of International Waters. I watched a

1352
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: little Captain Phillips last night with no basketball on.

1353
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 6: That was really nice. It's all right, who's the captain now?

1354
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: Exactly, he's the captain, look at me. That part's intense. Oh,

1355
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: I actually forgot how intense that whole movie. It gets

1356
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: even more intense once they board the ship. Yeah, I forgot.

1357
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Actually what happens in that and in the ending? My

1358
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: god based on true story too. Really really well, it's

1359
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: a good movie. Yeah, I we it was. We were

1360
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: watching you know, you know it's a good movie when

1361
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: you're watching it for the second time, maybe second or

1362
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: third time on TV with commercial breaks, it's like you

1363
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: could be watching a million other things. But even Nora

1364
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: was like, we, well, well we like I think I

1365
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: flipped it during a commercial break. She's like, oh, we

1366
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: gotta go back. And I'm like, you've seen it. She's like,

1367
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: that was pretty good. It's a good, good movie. I'm like,

1368
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: you're right, let's go back. It's true.

1369
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 6: You like to rewatch a movie.

1370
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: No, not really same Yeah, some movies, but I mean

1371
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: I watch rat every week. But and I'm really on

1372
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: a big Interstellar kick right now, Like I've watched it,

1373
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: like every second night, I've listening to the soundtrack when

1374
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: I go for runs, just thinking of the movie. That's

1375
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: how into it I have. But no, I generally don't

1376
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: like to watch.

1377
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 6: There's a lot of movies out there.

1378
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, so many I gotta see, all right.

1379
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't really have an answer for this, so I

1380
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about Captain Phillips next one. I recently,

1381
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: speaking of movies, I recently watched Parasite on a flight

1382
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: where I happen to be sitting next to an eight

1383
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: year old. I've never felt more uncomfortable than watching the

1384
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: couch sex scene with subtitles while a kid watched over

1385
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: my shoulder. I was very tempted to fast forward, but

1386
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: felt like I was too far into it and that

1387
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: it would only make the situation worse. I was curious

1388
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: to get Lee's take if something similar happened on his flight,

1389
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: or if any of you had had similar experiences watching

1390
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: movies on airplanes. That's from Nolan B.

1391
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: Glad to hear he was watching Parasite on a plane

1392
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: because JD forbid me to do it on a trip

1393
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: to Chicago. Just could have been you, but fortunately there

1394
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 3: was no screens. On the flight to or Frow, Chicago.

1395
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 6: JD called ahead and had him all the plane swapped.

1396
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: Your brother's your brother is a pilot.

1397
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, not pilot p but he's got some pull.

1398
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah he's got by the way, but just while run

1399
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: this quickly, if there's any civil engineers out there, can

1400
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 3: someone please explain to me the seating arrangement.

1401
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 4: While there's three on.

1402
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: The right and two on the left, I just think

1403
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: that the plane has to be out a balance.

1404
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 7: I'm not sure a civil engineering.

1405
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: An uncivil one then, because they got to do it

1406
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 3: like where the baggage is going. I mean, I guess so,

1407
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: but even still to me it's some but you're sort

1408
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: of weighing it down, you know, unevenly. I don't know

1409
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: how it works, but I trust I trust the engineers.

1410
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: That they've got it right, don't.

1411
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: I'd never like it, though, I never like it. If

1412
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: you had to pick there, would you rather sit on

1413
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: the three sided part of the plane or the doubles? Well,

1414
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather sit.

1415
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: On the three sided because it's a little more I

1416
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 3: don't know, there's more people, But then I don't want

1417
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: to sit next to people, so I sit on the

1418
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: two sides.

1419
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

1420
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: Know, it's it's it's just it's weird, even when you're flying.

1421
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm just like, what the hell are they doing this?

1422
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, just the flake concept a flake no.

1423
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: That particular setup, that particular alignment.

1424
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 6: He just wanted to be perfect, even right down in

1425
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 6: the middle.

1426
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, just make it four or six, but five, it's

1427
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 3: no two. I mean, yeah, it's crazy.

1428
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 6: I say, go to four. We need more room.

1429
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah too, too, fine too, I'm fine with that. Yeah,

1430
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: what do you do? What do you think about the

1431
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: two and one? You sometimes see that on very small place. Yeah. Again,

1432
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: still still.

1433
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: Someone's got their math wrong.

1434
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 3: I think, you know, well, I think they figured it out.

1435
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've.

1436
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: Got three, if you've got three, then what you have

1437
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: to do is put them all down the middle and

1438
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: have the flight attendants go around the song side.

1439
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: Wow. But then they'd be like crouching the whole time,

1440
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: like they'd have sore next or you just get very

1441
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: small people.

1442
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, all.

1443
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: Right, we figured it out.

1444
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: Then they'd have to walk around at the exact same time,

1445
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 2: just so they wouldn't throw the thing off right step

1446
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: step of the way.

1447
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: Someone Yeah, calls for a flight attendant on the left side.

1448
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: They both got to come down. The person just got

1449
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: to stand there. Yeah. Okay, I think we're onto something. Yeah,

1450
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: we'll grab you an orange. Yeah, okay, let's go back. Okay.

1451
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 3: Anyway, Uh to answer is question here, Nolan, Yes, on

1452
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: the flight to I think it was Lema. At Christmas

1453
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 3: this year, I was sitting next to my seven year

1454
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: old and I was watching Saving Private Ryan.

1455
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 4: The first half an.

1456
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: Hour of that movie is is intense. Yeah, And my

1457
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: son loves like wars and battles and stuff, and he's like,

1458
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: what is that?

1459
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 4: Dad?

1460
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: What is that? And I turned it off. I was like, no,

1461
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't want your watching this because it was like,

1462
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: it makes me feel sick watching that. Just how how

1463
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: you know intense it is? And so I turned it off. Okay, Yeah,

1464
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: so there you go.

1465
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess you've have a similar experience. Yeah, anyone else, No,

1466
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: I've told the story. It's it's a little different, but

1467
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: I told the story. Don't ever watch one hundred and

1468
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven hours on the O. Yeah, and I sat

1469
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: in the middle seat. Don't ever ever do that. I

1470
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: don't wish that on my my worst enemy. Like I thought,

1471
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna get sick because if you know what

1472
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven hours is about a guy

1473
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: getting his damn arm stuck under a boulder, you're already

1474
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: claustrophobic as it is on an airplane in the middle seat.

1475
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean I was. It's like, oh it was.

1476
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so well done, it's it is a

1477
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: great movie. But man, have an effect on me, I

1478
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: think just because where I was located and.

1479
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 7: Just that like, ugh, and it was a middle seat

1480
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 7: of when it was a big plane lane of a

1481
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 7: middle aisle, so you weren't anywhere close to.

1482
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: At least I was in the middle of the plane though,

1483
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: right smack down in the middle. About that balance that

1484
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 1: was very balanced. But yeah, I thought, that's the closest

1485
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: I've ever been to getting sick just from straight up

1486
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: watching a movie. I don't think I've ever got sick

1487
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: from watching a movie.

1488
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: Both.

1489
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I have, But now I gotta think

1490
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: about it anyone else with an airplane experience movie slash

1491
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: airplane experience.

1492
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to think if I ever got

1493
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,480
Speaker 2: sick watching.

1494
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: Can you watch do they put on? Okay, like, could

1495
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: you watch Sully on an airplane. Would they put as

1496
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: an option to watch on an airplane?

1497
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 7: Well, they used to not show any any kind of

1498
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 7: airline disaster. Yeah, like on the main screen when.

1499
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, like when they used to do it.

1500
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 7: Like yeah, today's movie is this?

1501
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: And if they did, god remember those days, Like you're like, oh,

1502
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: I hope I.

1503
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 6: Can see the we get one movie screen.

1504
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like too far or it's like

1505
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: way too close and you're cranking your head up.

1506
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 4: Oh those were horrible.

1507
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: No, but in the old old days, there wasn't even

1509
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: the ones above your head like that. It was just

1510
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 3: the one big screen. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

1511
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: I remember those days.

1512
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Oh those days, had to walk twenty miles to get

1513
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,480
Speaker 1: to the airport uphill.

1514
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 3: Both ways in the snow, even in summer.

1515
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: So sorry you were saying though, that they didn't.

1516
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,879
Speaker 7: They definitely didn't show anything that had an airline disaster.

1517
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 7: And sometimes they would show a movie and then cut

1518
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 7: that one scene out.

1519
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, Like, yeah, what about now,

1520
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: trying to think.

1521
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 7: I watched that uh that oil rig disaster film on

1522
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 7: a plane once.

1523
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1524
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 7: It was like feel a rama because the whole thing

1525
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 7: is exploding in the planet. It was a pretty rough flight.

1526
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 7: It was going I was going to New York in wintertime,

1527
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 7: and it was just like, is this really?

1528
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 4: Is this happening?

1529
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 7: Like explosions and platforms collapsing and stuff like that. So

1530
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 7: that was alarming. It was close to here, one hundred

1531
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 7: and twenty seven hours experience right.

1532
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: Right the deep water horizon.

1533
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 7: Deep water, that's it, that's it.

1534
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.

1535
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: Like the Dark Knight Rises. It had that like air

1536
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: like a hijacking airplane scene. Is that it? Can you

1537
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: watch them?

1538
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1539
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: It's like, uh yeah, it's up to you. Now you're

1540
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: in control.

1541
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 7: I won't watch any movie. I will check and if

1542
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 7: it says edited or formatted to the screen, I simply

1543
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 7: will not watch it.

1544
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: But not all of them.

1545
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 7: Not all of them, Not all of them really, I

1546
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 7: mean a majority must be.

1547
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: Not all of them see it.

1548
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I don't know.

1549
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know you're talking about.

1550
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 7: But I hate it. I can't stand.

1551
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: You hate what it pops up property of Delta ruins

1552
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: the movie for you. You're screaming, get that text off,

1553
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: got off.

1554
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 7: I'm out of it.

1555
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm out of it.

1556
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: Apparently American airlines won't watch or won't give you Sully

1557
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: as an option, but it seems like all other airlines do.

1558
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 7: There's this I know that, Like my wife watched Captain

1559
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 7: Fantastic on a flight and she loved it. And then

1560
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 7: she came home and it was just like, oh, we

1561
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 7: got to watch this movie. We gotta watch this movie.

1562
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 7: And so we all sat down, the whole family, and

1563
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 7: there's just one scene that was cut out of the

1564
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 7: airplane version, which is Vigo's massive dick full frontal.

1565
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 6: She was like, Wow, don't remember that?

1566
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: Heyway, good for you Ifigo. Yeah, all right, last one here, Hey,

1567
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: no dig any Dunkers. I recently bought one of your

1568
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: fine T shirts and when I pulled it out of

1569
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: the package, I heard the sound of something hitting the floor.

1570
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 2: I looked down and what do I see but assigned

1571
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: Chris Jackson, card Mac mood abdul roof himself. I'm confused, though,

1572
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: Is this something you guys are doing? Is it an accident?

1573
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: I must have missed the memo that's from Mitchen, Massachusetts.

1574
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an accident.

1575
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 6: We're gonna need that back. I've been working all over

1576
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 6: for that Chris Jackson.

1577
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: I signed it myself, Jay skeats on that Chris Jackson card.

1578
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: It must have accidentally fallen into your T shirt package. No,

1579
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: it's just a little something something. Uh, we've been trying

1580
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: to do it. Now, don't freak out if you bought

1581
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: a shirt and didn't get a card. We were just

1582
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: selling too many shirts and we ran out of old

1583
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: basketball cards that we had signed, so they're not in

1584
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: every single package of that. We're trying to keep up

1585
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: with the demand. But I think a majority of you,

1586
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: at least according to our Twitter photos and stuff like that,

1587
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: have us shared whatever card you've gotten.

1588
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I think I got a Leelis bj Armstrong.

1589
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken. Nice worth a ton now.

1590
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we opened packs on Thursday, which I just

1591
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: realized we forgot to do today because I definitely didn't

1592
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: think it was Thursday. It does not feel like it

1593
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: really feels like a Monday. But yeah, we have all

1594
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: these old basketball cards, so we're just like, well, let's

1595
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: just do the classic Leellis sign it of our own

1596
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: names and then put one in each Yeah, right, little souvenir,

1597
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 1: especially if you can collect them all. I want to

1598
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: see if somebody can collect them all.

1599
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 6: All four signatures, yeah, or a full.

1600
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: We gotta make we gotta make JD like the Willa

1601
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: Wonka Golden Ticket. You know there's like only one out there.

1602
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're the idea. Yeah, get a JD.

1603
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 7: It'll be the checklist though.

1604
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea. So yeah, if you collect

1605
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: all four though, let us know right now, we just

1606
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: like take a I don't know whatever ones we've opened,

1607
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: just divy them up here, task here, signed twenty of

1608
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: these all right, and then we just give them to

1609
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: our tea shirt coming and they drop them in, keep

1610
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: collecting them, get a little binder for them.

1611
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 6: Never know what those are gonna be worth, that's right,

1612
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 6: might have a mc million scenario on our hands.

1613
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh I just watched that.

1614
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah it's pretty good.

1615
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like if you had read that article,

1616
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, doubt know what's going on, but still really

1617
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: well done. They're the characters are oh.

1618
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 6: My god, Gilbin Peoples.

1619
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: Oh like they're they're incredible. There's like three or four characters.

1620
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: You're just like, how is this not like this is

1621
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: an actor? Like they have to bet they're the real people.

1622
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 6: To me, I'm like guys.

1623
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 5: This silly work for the FBI, right, they should be

1624
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 5: way more boring if you work for the FBI.

1625
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 6: No smiles.

1626
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Uh, you know we're talking Ellie.

1627
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I read that article.

1628
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah oh, I got a little series on HBO. I

1629
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. How many highly recommend you watch it?

1630
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: On the left side of a plane? Way how many?

1631
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 4: How many episodes were talking?

1632
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: I think it's short. I think it's like a four

1633
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: part series, maybe six of the max.

1634
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: But I think it's good, good alignment. Then you're right,

1635
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 3: is it half nail episodes?

1636
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: It's a little longer.

1637
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: You know, I'm trying to watch it.

1638
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: I used to make thumbs on the.

1639
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh this, Hey, he's uncle Jerry.

1640
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: Gotta get through the eighty eight eighty nine NBA. I'll

1641
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: catch you.

1642
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 3: I'll catch ups, all right, guys.

1643
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 4: Thank you saving so.

1644
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: Much for sending your questions. Keep them coming no dunks

1645
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: at the fla dot com, or you can tweet them

1646
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 1: in at no Dunks, Inc. Or use that hashtag no Dunks.

1647
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,919
Speaker 1: We'll catch you on Friday with the Drop podcast.

1648
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 6: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1649
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome, thanks for joining us, folks, and

1650
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: remember dal Ecles what was his name? Ah, just making

1651
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: sure you're listening.

1652
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,839
Speaker 1: Did he play for the Wizards?

1653
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bullets, Yeah yeah, the Bullets yeh yeah yeah yeah,

1654
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 4: all right cool.

1655
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 2: He was easy to loadel heckles, Embrace the Apeople.

1656
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: You could stay.

1657
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: Every day.

1658
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 6: And dad be happy every minute.

1659
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 7: It's been so long that you're the monna wait for.

1660
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:29,959
Speaker 2: It happened already.

1661
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 4: It's gonna be grevy