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An hour 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.120 long conversation of Bears football things NFL about to unfold. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.200 I'm Jeff jonnyak a lot with Tom there and welcome 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.239 into another edition of Bears All Access, brought to you 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.360 by IGS Energy and joining us as well as the 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.760 man from sirius XM NFL Radio, Mister Jim Miller. Jim, 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:51.120 how are you doing? Maybe not quite yet, but we 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:56.200 got there? Are you there? He can't hear us? Adam Stazinsky, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.240 Brandon Arlaski our producers tonight as we get you set 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.120 for conference football weekend. But a lot of things going 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.320 on obviously this week, and we're gonna hear from jimbo 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.480 cover in Inibo. I did with him on WBBM earlier 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.200 this week about his Hall of Fame induction. So party 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.600 you was in there, buddy, Yeah, well it's been fun 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.119 because you know, like I we are talking, I became 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.160 aware of Jimbo covert in his high school days and 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.520 then I was, you know, parallel with his time at 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.880 Pitt and knew what Pitt offensive line and what their 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.679 production there, what their position coach was all about the 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.440 success he had. And then my senior year in college, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.840 we went to Pitt and played pit They were number 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.880 one in the country. We are awful, but we ended 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.280 up beating them so and then we played in the 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.760 Hula Ball together, a college All Star game. So I 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.280 knew a lot about Jimbo before he ever became a 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.720 member of the Chicago Bears. And I think there's a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.400 couple of guys you meet throughout the course of your 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.640 career that you recognize early that they are going to 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.600 be super successful. And at Sprinkle goes in as well. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.400 A player from the forties and fifties, certainly a very 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.800 difficult assignment for the staff that I was put together 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.880 the Hall of Fame Committee, the Blue Ribbon Panel, and 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.360 to get him elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.440 Passed away several years ago, but Jim Miller. When you 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.600 get those guys that a lot of folks don't have 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.440 a video of, or don't recall or ever even had 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.120 a chance to see them play, very difficult assignment when 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.840 you're comparing eras and so forth. Yeah, go back to 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.680 forty four through nineteen fifty five when he played, and 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.200 this again, it tells you how different things were as 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.040 a pass rusher. Obviously, Papa Hallis thought he was one 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.080 of the best pass rushers in the league. But he 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.400 was six one, two hundred and six pounds. Far different 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.440 than what it is today in terms of what do 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.720 you look at at the size of players. But hey 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.600 had all the heart, had all the intangibles. I love 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.520 what the Blue Ribbon Panel put together. They had great 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.400 historians on there, like Bill Belichick that really studies the league. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.280 So guys were getting elected back in the nineteen twenties. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.560 You know, I had the opportunity to talk to Dave Baker, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.480 the president of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.880 honestly wish he would open it up every five or 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.760 seven years where they allow more players into the Pro 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.480 Football Hall of Fame. But this is the centennial class, 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.320 he said, Jim, this is it this is it will 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.960 never do it again. And so a couple of Chicago 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.280 Bears make the list. And why the Bears have the 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.520 most Hall of famers, you know at Pro Football Hall 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.240 of Fame, I know, whatever era that you're talking about 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.240 in the NFL. I don't think size dictates courage because 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.720 you look at some of the guys that we have 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.440 seen throughout our career, before our career and that have 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.920 come sense. I don't think Terre Colin lacks any courage 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.919 at all in the game. Darren Sprawls never shied away 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.480 from contact. And that's when you talk about these older 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.800 guys of different sizes. I imagine they had as much 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.640 courage as anybody in the history of the league, no 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.640 matter what size they were. Maybe a lot more, Yeah, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.160 given the equipment that they were wearing back in the day. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.400 This is Bears All Access. We're gonna take a break. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.560 When we return, we'll be joined by the brand new 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.560 offensive line coach of the Chicago Bears, one Cass Steele, 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.320 looking forward to the conversation ahead here on Chicago Sports 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:02.480 Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.520 brought to you by IGS Energy. At prompt partner of 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.520 the Chicago Bears, providing electricity, natural gas, and home warranty 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.600 products to over one million customers across the country. Learn 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.320 more about IGS Energy at igs dot com. Jeff Tom 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.240 and Jim Miller with you on Bears All Access. Get 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.200 you sent for what's ahead for the Bears throughout the 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.520 course of the year this offseason. It's it's moving quickly, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.800 that's for sure. I mean it's already conference championship weekend. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.440 We'll break into those games a little bit. We'll hear 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.120 from jimbo Covert in our following segment. We're gonna talk 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.080 to the offensive line coach of the Bears, One Caste 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.279 in a few minutes. But there's also reports about the 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.839 Bears adding a new quarterback coach and John D. Philippo 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.800 and not to know him a little bit well regarded 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.560 in that role. Yeah, a lot of experience, a lot 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.279 of experience both in offensive philosophy and the way you 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.840 think about scheming and then also how to develop players. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.400 I think everywhere from anywhere in the backfield, from you know, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.159 the running backs to the quarterbacks, to the production of 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.800 the tight end position. So I think one thing you 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.040 have you look about, look about what the moves at 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.919 the Bears of May. They brought in tons of coaching experience. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.760 When you talk about having your eyes on the product 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.800 that you're gonna coach and you're gonna teach, I think 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.000 you're bringing in, you know, decades of experience with the 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.400 coaches they're bringing through here. Yeah, And I just think 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.839 the style of offense, you know, obviously being with Doug Peterson, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.960 you know, for a couple of years there in Philadelphia, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.120 and granted Frank Reich and other coaches moved on and 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.000 d Philippo got his opportunity to move on to become 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.919 the OC of the Minnesota Vikings. Then obviously this past 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.280 year down in Jacksonville, I think again he shares. He 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.200 comes with knowledge with what coach Naggi is trying to 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.320 accomplish on offense. And we could say that about a 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.200 few of these coaches. Whether it's Bill Laser, who they 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.640 edited as the OC. I think you think about those 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.159 years in Philly and the years that he developed kind 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.680 of you know, athletic quarterbacks. Whether it's Ryan Tannehill down there, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.320 I thought he had a very efficient year under Bill Laser. 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.080 And I think Andy Dalton when he was the OC 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.800 there in Cincinnati for Marvin Lewis's last stretch run there, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.600 I thought Andy Dalton was more efficient and that offense 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.760 got a lot better. So bringing him on board, and 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.560 then of course we'll talk to one castile because obviously 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.400 he brings a mindset that is very much like Kansas 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.800 City football and Andy Reid, and I'm sure that's something, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.640 is something why Matt Nagee brought that on board as 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.880 well at the old line spot. Yeah, and again the 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.039 Bears have not officially made these made these official, you know, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.119 publicly or whatever, but Dave were Gone as a pass 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.400 coordinator getting a promotion from quarterback coach after you know, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.080 being here in Mitch's loan quarterback coach these last three 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:37.160 years and still understanding exactly what Matt's trying to hear. Well, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.760 you know, the thing about it is is Mitch is 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.560 going to affords new relationships with the new coaches that 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.640 come aboard on the offensive side of the ball. But 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.680 he's got a good relationship with Dave were Gone. He's 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.600 got a sounding board, he's got a person that he 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.960 can speak to because he already knows and he can 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.479 speak to him confidently. And I think he'll be able 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.640 to do the same thing with the rest of the 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.240 coaches that come aboard. But until you really get to 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.200 know him, you get to understand what the way their 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.080 personalities work day in and day out of a long season. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.480 From OTAs to the conclusion of the regular season, I 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.520 think Dave are gone. It can really be a real 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.200 positive person in the backfield. Also, Jim, when you were 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.400 quarterbacking and all your different spots did you have. I 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.760 know there's new positions being created every year by coaching 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.280 staffs to create them as money assets as you can. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.640 What did you prefer as a quarterback? Yeah, well, back 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.400 in the day, it kind of it wasn't like that. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:33.880 I don't want to say back in the day, like, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.800 oh yeah it was back in the day. Well, if 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.440 you're looked in the mirror yet, well, I mean I 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.040 was with a grizzled OC that had done it a 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.760 long time in Ron Harry heard. I always bring him up, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.320 and I was so fortunate to have him as my 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.520 coach and know it was just you heard it right 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.800 from the horse's mouth. It went from the offensive coordinated 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.480 rate to you. But now because football has become more 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.800 mechanical and specialized. That started kind of the infusion of 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.520 a lot more quarterback coaches. We could work on mechanics. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.960 And Ron Erhardt never even believed in that. And I'll 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.960 tell you why he goes he goes when he because 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.200 when he drafted, he goes. I never tried to draft 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.560 a quarterback who was mechanically inefficient, you know, he said, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.679 I wouldn't even want to deal with that as a coach. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.320 So because it was more about the bigger pisher picture 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.000 and things like that, and anywhere I went. Chris Palmer, 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.400 who had been a long time OC in the NFL, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.560 he was oro OC in our quarterback coach in Jacksonville. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.880 And even when we arrived with the Barris you know, 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:31.000 pretty much John Shoe became the quarterback coach. But then 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.400 once he was elevated to uh OC, he became the 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.520 quarterback coach inn OC by you know, by by default. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.440 And so it used to be like that, but now 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.680 you see a lot of teams wanting to work by 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.640 more mechanics. The OC can't spend amount the amount of 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.200 time because he's bounced around with other meeting rooms and responsibilities. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.480 And now the quarterback coach has become kind of a 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.760 more of a central figure, especially when you're trying to 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.680 bring along young guys by and large. Do you view 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.800 this and in your circles and both of you guys 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.360 jump in, do you view this as a positive development 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 for young quarterbacks? Is it a necessity? Yeah? I think so. 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.200 But I think you got to challenge him, you know, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.560 you and I had a conversation, Jeff, I mean, you 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.320 know about learning defense? Anytime, I'll just tell you what 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.680 Ron Earhart used to do with me in Pittsburgh. Literally 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.640 every time we watched the meeting room. He already knew 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.880 Neil Donald and Mike tom Zac knew those guys had 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.680 played in the league eight to ten years at that 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.280 point already. When I got in those meetings, he made 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.240 me physically in front of Neil Donald and Mike tom 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.400 Zach call out every defense in front and every coverage 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.960 for every down of every game that we ever watched. Jim, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.880 what's the front? What's the coverage? All right? If I 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.320 were to call this play, what's your read versus this? 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.840 And he challenged me, oh, what blitz? If they blitz this, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.559 what are you checking to? And he kind of put 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.000 you on a spot and you had to know it. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.600 I mean, already throw you up on the board. Hey, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:56.520 draw up an under front. You know Sam Mike's grape blitz. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.559 What are you gonna do against it? When I call 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.079 out this play and he'd put you on the spot, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.680 and I'll tell you what my ass got in the playbook, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.920 and I learned my protections. I think that's a challenge 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.640 of any position coaches. They call your name out with 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:13.680 immedia seeing you better pay attention, you better be able 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.640 to answer correctly, or it's just an indication that you're 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.040 really not absorbing or paying attention the way that is 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.360 expected of you in those meetings. And one of those 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.520 veteran position coaches of note that is now a Chicago 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.760 Bear assistant coach offensive line coach, Juan Castillo, kind enough 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.080 to join Bears all access get even iguana, how you doing? 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:40.000 Is here? You go? How you doing? One? Welcome to Chicago. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.040 We welcome to Chicago, Chicago. Yeah, you know we're gonna 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.400 talk Bears. But I gotta go. I gotta go way 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.839 back for a minute because and the only reason I'm 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.760 bringing this up right away is, uh, Steve Stable, who 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.520 I had met one time at a Super Bowl NFL 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.880 films and just elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.880 Passed away several years ago, but he did an NFL 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.560 films piece on you called the American Dream, and I 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.760 watched it today and I was just blown away by 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.240 a few stories on there. That's your your doggedness to 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.320 land NFL jobs and what you the extent to which 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.000 by which you went to convince a guy like Andy 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.640 Reid or a guy like Railroads to get a job 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.960 to start your career. Uh, just a fascinating piece that 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.120 I was unaware of just how how you went about 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.840 doing that in this damn age. I mean, you know, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.640 you think that's what every young guy has to do, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.880 but you went way beyond it. The call well you look, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.800 you know the thing about it that that and I 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.720 think all these things are important when you're coaching kids 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.920 and and you're trying to take them to the next level. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.840 You know, my mom taught me work ethic I have 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.400 a sister that's an internal medicine doctor. And neither my 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.760 parents went to you in grade school. They came from 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.160 Mexico that they did have papers. And my mom became 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.080 my dad when I was in fifth grade. So my 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.320 mom before she died became an American citizen, which was 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.880 one of her greatest moments in her lives. You know, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.439 so so no, it's it is. And so I carried that, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.280 you know, as as a coach, you know, I wanted 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.440 to learn. First of all, I started, you know, I 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.320 played linebacker in the USFL, so I was on the 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.000 defensive side of the ball. And what happened is when 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.959 when my college coach wanted to get me on the staff, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.760 the only position open was coaching the offensive line. So 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.320 that's how I kind of started. You know, what I 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.280 what I did is I didn't know anything about offensive line. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.080 But what I what I did is I went to 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.680 visit seven of the best offensive line coaches in the 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.199 in the country. Five were in the NFL and tour 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.280 in the were in college. And I went to see 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.800 them every every every year for five years. And you know, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.600 the first couple of years, I was sleeping in the 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.440 car because you know, you didn't have that kind of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.760 money too, So I would I drove to Indianapolis, and 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.520 from there I would just take two weeks and drive 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.920 to see all these guys, you know, all these coaches, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.880 and and it's crazy how they helped me. And what 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.360 you find out is that those guys were the top 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.160 at their profession at that time. And what I did 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.800 is I just took the best on each one of 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.520 those guys. And you know, the thing that they didn't 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.319 know was that I never told him that I was 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.080 going to visit another guy. They all thought I was 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:27.319 their guy, you know. And you know that what's crazy 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.200 is by the third year, I'm staying at their houses. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.200 You know, it was unbelievable how they started, you know, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.120 how they helped me because you know, they'd find out 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.120 that I was sleeping in the car, you know. And 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.880 I love the story. I love the story one with 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.880 Andy Reid after a game he was rumored to be 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.400 the Philadelphia you know, top candidate and you your your 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.000 car was basically snowed under in the parking lot after 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.280 a playoff game and he was told, hey, there's a 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.280 guy named one because Steve in the parking lot wants 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.400 to talk to you. I mean, that's that's commitment one, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.240 yes or well, you know, you know, sometimes it's it's 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.920 hard to get to coaches and they may know who 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.719 you are. But I just wanted to make sure that 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.280 they coach, you know, I'm you know, I'm available, you 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.480 know I'm willing to work, and they know your work. 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.360 I think the hard part at the beginning is you 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.080 have to have a resume. You know. Now it's a 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.120 little different. I've coached twenty four years in the NFL, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:25.440 eighteen in Philadelphia, four and in Baltimore and then two 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.080 in Buffalo, so you have a resume and people start 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.400 knowing you, and so it's a little different now. But 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.800 but at the beginning, you know, it's tough. It's tough 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.240 getting an opportunity. But the thing that's that's that's amazing 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.520 is those seven coaches that help me. That's how I 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.120 was able to maintain, you know, twenty four years in 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.480 the league because they were able to teach me the 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.640 things that that I was able to teach players. And 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.760 you know, every player loves the coach is going to 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.560 make them better. And the thing that happens in the 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.960 NFL sometimes is that you know, you have veteran players, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.360 so you have to know what you're doing, get those 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.680 veteran players to listen so that they can get better. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.600 And I think that's one of my strengths is that 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.440 is that I you know, there's a certain way I 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.400 teach pass protection and certain things throughout the years that 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.840 I think that the kids end up learning the eight. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.120 You know. You know, Juan's going to help me be better, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.000 you know, and I think that's important. Hey, coach jan 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.600 I also played in the USFL for three years. This 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.680 is Tom Fair. I played with the Arizona Wranglers and 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.440 I actually our last game was against the San Antonio 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.640 gun Slingers. How was How was for me? It was 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.360 a positive experience because I got quality coaching, We had 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.720 a good organization led by George Allen, and I know 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.240 San Antonio did go through some difficulty. But how was 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.000 that experience for you as a young man, but also 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.480 as a player, Well, you know just exactly what you 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.680 said it knowledge wise, you know, just as a coach. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.760 You know, I was getting coached. You know, his name 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.600 was Jim Bates, you know, who was a hell of 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.240 a linebacker coach at the NFL for a long time. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.120 So what it did, It helped me just to be 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.880 able to learn more things. And I think what ends 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.600 up happening is that people understand is that to be 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.080 a better to be a good offensive line coach or 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.520 be a good offensive coach, you better understand defense and 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:19.080 vice versa. You know. So what helps me be a 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.080 you know, a good line coach, which I'm gonna I'm 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:23.920 gonna prove to you all is because you always have 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.520 to prove yourself. Is that my ability to understand how defenders, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.360 how the defensive ends, and how the defensive tackles rushed, 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.920 or they how they play the run because I coach 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.560 over there. I've been over there, I coached those guys, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.440 so i understand exactly what they're doing. So I'm able 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.200 to present the issues and the problems to the offensive 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.760 players and explain exactly what they're doing. Well. Coach Jim 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.360 Miller here, congratulations, Welcome to the Chicago Bears. And I 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.840 just want to let the listeners know we always hate 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.240 to play in the Philadelphia Eagles. I mean, you guys 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.240 brought a tough, you know, tough minded brand of football. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.160 Just for the listeners out there here were they're starting tackles. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.560 When you look at Sean at or excuse me, the 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.800 offensive line. Trey Thomas was the left tackle. John run 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.440 you and it was probably one of the toughest guys 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.840 to ever play right tackle. In my words, I'm good 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.280 friends with Todd Herriman's because he grew up here in Michigan. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.520 He was their left guard. Yeah yeah, yeah, Jamal Jackson, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.960 he was a great center. I mean, just to have 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.760 that tough mindset coach college free agent, you know, and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.760 and usually we had we would have one or two 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.760 college free agents. But you know, that's a good point 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.199 that you that you talk about because you know what 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.800 I found out being a defensive coaches. You know, everybody 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.880 talks about in the offensive line room. You know, you're 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.200 fortunate if you have one or two guys that are 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.240 that are tough guys or guys that that might play 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.399 on defense. And people say, well, you know, what is 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.040 it with line? I said, if all the offensive linemen 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.240 were like that, they would be playing defense. You know, 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.200 offensive linemen are different. It's a different mentality. But as 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.520 a coach, you have to teach them and talk about 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.080 being physical and finishing. And that's what we did in Philadelphia, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.520 you know, and and then your players it's like when 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.679 a fight breaks out, you know, well, you know what, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.240 when a fight breaks out, your old line coach. You know, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:14.880 I'm the old line coach. I better be in there 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.160 trying to break it. Up because when you talk about 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.920 being physical and tough, you have to walk to walk 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.199 to you know, you have to be that. And you 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.080 know when you talk to your kids about you know, 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.359 thirty minutes before practice. That's what we did in Philly. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.000 You know with coach Reid, since he was a line guy, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.040 you know, he played line he would let me start 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.919 practice individuals thirty minutes before practice, so that you know, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.760 offensive lineman, you can yell all you want. The only 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.120 way that they get better is by doing something, doing 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.359 a skill over and over and over till it becomes natural. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.000 That's the only way it's going to happen. Yelling doesn't 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.840 get it done or cussing or that's not the way 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.199 it happens, you know, And so coach Reid understood that. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.640 But again for your players is if you're gonna want 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.919 them to work like that, then you better be the 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.639 first one in the building and the last one in 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.320 the building. And then you don't have to tell him that. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.280 They just know because they know who you are. Hey, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.439 coach one, so you better you know, being in the 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.280 NFL for twenty four years and seeing the game change 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.280 a little bit, so you get a linebacker like Levon 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.960 Kirkland six one two, seventy two sixty whatever he was. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.639 Is there Could those guys play in today's game or 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.359 is there so much of a speed coverage responsibility with 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.480 RPOs in the past happy league that maybe the game 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.680 has changed a couple of those bodies out of the game. Well, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.480 you know what the thing about those kind of guys 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.159 is those you know, those guys could run two. You know, 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.040 you go back and you talk about some of those 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.919 great linebackers. Part of the reason they were great was 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.800