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Speaker 2: Edo State?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And them and tie Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: As we come on the airwaves today, as I look

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Speaker 2: Always ready.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to October, my friend, It has finally arrived. How

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Speaker 2: I'm good. It doesn't count as Broctober for Iowa State,

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Speaker 2: even though Brock is gone. We don't count that anymore.

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Speaker 1: We could call it October depending on how it's true

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Speaker 1: for rock obect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, true, two seas like thick with two seas, Rocktober

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Well, welcome then, welcome all. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: stopping on back here listening to the solid Verbal. We've

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Speaker 1: got week six in front of us. Go back you

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Speaker 1: listen to the episode that we dropped on Tuesday. If

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Speaker 1: you want the deeper dive for the Vandy Bama game

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Speaker 1: of the Miami Florida State game. We've got a handful

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Speaker 1: of others on today's episode that we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: through with all y'all We've also got an exciting contest.

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Speaker 1: We've also got your quads. We've also got your window

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Speaker 1: Week six, Dan Rubinstein, as always, it is a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be back with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, the pleasure is all mine. Tie. And speaking

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Speaker 2: of pleasure, Tie, pleasure speak, don't ever say that, Steven,

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Speaker 2: I have limits. Sorry, speaking of pleasure. I was looking

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Speaker 2: if Vandy truly hasn't played a defense worth a dang

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Speaker 2: through the air. So tie, welcome to Sow your Oats

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Speaker 2: Saturday once again. Colin, get out there and score responsibly.

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Speaker 2: We've done a soyar Oats Saturday before, I believe, way

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Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of opportunity for teams

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Speaker 1: Well, we're leading this show off with October and Sow

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Speaker 1: your Oats Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Swordsman Saturday, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: What could be to follow here?

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Speaker 1: this week's prize a little bit later. Agree, Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 1: upset minded. Vandy's a giant killer, Diego Pavia, big game hunter, right,

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think there's weirdly less pressure

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Speaker 1: Look, we did the ACC power rankings on the last episode.

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Speaker 1: This is a really meaningful match, not just because it's

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we talked more about it on the Tuesday episode.

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Speaker 2: You think Iowa State should be favored.

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Speaker 2: I think you're bringing in last year's baggage with Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: beat up now. But like I think you're bringing in

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Speaker 1: Aren't we all?

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Speaker 2: That's true?

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Speaker 1: Aren't we all going through life doing that? Damn? Come on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when there is a line that I do not understand,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, well they can move the ball. Sowersby's

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm in for a dime,

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Speaker 1: where are you at here? Why don't you go first?

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Speaker 1: Because I have more to say here? But I'm you.

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Speaker 2: Already went first. You can't start talking about a game

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Speaker 1: Well, why don't you go now? And then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like Cincinnati here. I think Iowa State is

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Speaker 2: a good team, definitely good team. I think Jerry's out

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Speaker 2: right now on great team. They haven't separated themselves consistently.

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Speaker 2: Now they've n the bell, right, they beat Kansas State

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Speaker 2: That was impressive. I think Cincinnati's a good team. I

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Speaker 1: This defense is dead last one hundred and thirty sixth

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Speaker 1: seventy four percent of their passes against the Cincinnati Bearcads. Dan, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kickoff is high noon?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's high noon, which I actually like for Iowa State.

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Speaker 2: But no, there is something about the offensive momentum that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've seen some conflicting opinions on this matchup, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not like the Iowa State passing offense

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Speaker 1: I've been in autum all year. Give me the Clones

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Speaker 2: Okay. The only other thing I would point to in

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Speaker 2: Those high leverage like third in goals or you know,

437
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Speaker 2: first and ten from the thirteen when Iowa State has

438
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Speaker 2: the ball, Like, I think that's going to decide the game.

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Speaker 1: Here High noon ESPN Plus. Okay, Kansas State the Wildcats

440
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Speaker 1: on the road at Baylor. Baylor favored by six and

441
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Speaker 1: one half points. Did you happen to see that Dylan

442
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 1: Edwards was finally back out there are more of a

443
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Speaker 1: featured role last week?

444
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Yes, a big deal.

445
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: Twenty carries I believe for one sixty six in a touch. Yeah,

446
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: significant moment for KSE State to get him back. They

447
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: have been reeling since that trip to Ireland. They're two

448
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: and three. They played in four to one possession games,

449
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Speaker 1: three of which went for ls. I don't really understand

450
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Speaker 1: case State Dan. I still have not heard a cohesive

451
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: argument for how we got here with k State football.

452
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: I know it hasn't been great, but they've been pretty close.

453
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Speaker 1: It hasn't been a total disaster. I look at the spreadsheet.

454
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Speaker 1: There are plenty of numbers on here I point to

455
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Speaker 1: and I say, oh, that's okay. Obviously they're two and three.

456
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: They could be doing a lot better. But it doesn't

457
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Speaker 1: feel to me now a couple of games into this

458
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Speaker 1: thing that case State is quite the disaster it felt

459
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Speaker 1: like a couple weeks ago, and this is a really

460
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Speaker 1: good opportunity for them on the road at Baylor, perhaps

461
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Speaker 1: to re establish themselves, to build some new found momentum

462
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Speaker 1: and carry it with them the remainder of the season.

463
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Speaker 1: Is it time to believe in our k State Wildcats?

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Speaker 2: Again, Dan, I think they're a good by low team,

465
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Speaker 2: But like, what is it that you're If you're buying

466
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Speaker 2: in Dylan Edwards, that's fine with him healthy, They're certainly

467
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Speaker 2: going to run the ball better, it seems is a

468
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: team that's pretty beat up. I just don't know what

469
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Speaker 2: you can count on them to do really well all

470
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Speaker 2: the time. You know, year to year, it varies what

471
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Speaker 2: that thing is. But the sloppiness on offense, especially through

472
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: the air, is just killer to me. Like they don't

473
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Speaker 2: have a passing game at all, And so going to Baylor,

474
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Speaker 2: going to all these places that have teams that have

475
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Speaker 2: the ability to score points, I just don't know how

476
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: Kansas State matches week to week. So look, if you

477
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Speaker 2: run well, that opens up the passing game. Obviously, you'll

478
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: be able to control clock a lot more and so

479
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: that you can get more control if you're running the

480
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Speaker 2: ball better, and Kansas State gets after the quarterback reasonably, well,

481
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: I don't think they're turning it into sacks, but they

482
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Speaker 2: can't lean on the defense. They've had relatively consistent quarterback

483
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Speaker 2: play before Avery Johnson. They don't have that. I just

484
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: don't think this is a team right now that's built

485
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Speaker 2: to win eight nine games, and obviously it's up far.

486
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Speaker 2: It's pretty unlikely at this point in the season that

487
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Speaker 2: they are. But I think they're improved. I just think

488
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: there's even with Baylor's defense, there's more to like about Baylor.

489
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Speaker 2: But here's the butt. I'm bringing the butt on Sowyer

490
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: Oat Saturday. Colon, get out there and score response to responsibly.

491
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Speaker 2: Now Baylor Kansas State just feels like a back and forth.

492
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Speaker 2: It just feels like a little bit of shootout potential

493
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Speaker 2: in this one. I don't have either one of these defenses.

494
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Baylor to win thirty eight thirty four.

495
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Speaker 2: I think it's that kind of game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too far off, actually, Okay, And as I

497
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: was going through and looking at numbers and kind of

498
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Speaker 1: also a nooner, this is a nooner that is correct

499
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Speaker 1: as I was trying to put all of this together

500
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Speaker 1: in my head. I kept feeling like, Baylor is that

501
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: meme from Moneyball, you know what I mean, the one

502
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: where Jonah Hill's up at the whiteboard. Yeah, this is

503
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Speaker 1: Baylor football, Dan. Their offense is electric, their quarterback leads

504
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: the nation in passing guards and touchdowns. Their deficit is

505
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: that their defense is a wreck. Yeah, it's still a wreck.

506
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: It's not better. I love the offense. I just think

507
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: it's a bad matchup for their defense. If Case State

508
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: can get it going on the ground, if what we

509
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: saw a week ago with Dylan Edwards, if that's going

510
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: to be now more of a trend. If Case State

511
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: does get back on track on that front, they could

512
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: definitely jump back onto the radar if they go to

513
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Baylor and they win this one. Out right, So I'm

514
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Speaker 1: with you, I actually like case State outright though I've

515
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Speaker 1: got this at thirty eight thirty. Whoa. I think I

516
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Speaker 1: agree that there's probably a lot of shootout potential here,

517
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Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be case State reasserting itself,

518
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: getting going on the ground. If they can do that,

519
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: if they can control clock, keep the Baylor offense a

520
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: little bit more off the field. Again, their defense case

521
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Speaker 1: States is not amazing either, right, but I think with

522
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: what they can do on the ground, potentially that's an

523
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Speaker 1: opening and that's a really good matchup for them to exploit.

524
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Speaker 2: By the way, this is what Oklahoma State has done

525
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: this season against FBS teams in Oklahoma. Scored Oklahoma State

526
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Speaker 2: because they what they did to Baylor last week? Sure, okay,

527
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State scored three points at Oregon, twelve points against Tulsa,

528
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Speaker 2: and then twenty seven against Baylor.

529
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Speaker 1: Right.

530
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Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, and maybe it's a post Gundy bump,

531
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Speaker 2: but Baylor's defense has not arrived.

532
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Speaker 1: Are we going to play this game the remainder of

533
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Speaker 1: the season where it's like, how many points did Oklahoma

534
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Speaker 1: States score against you?

535
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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that. Actually, by the way, speaking of

537
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Speaker 1: Baylor's defense, there is one aspect of it that I love. Okay,

538
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: have you seen their turnover prop.

539
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Speaker 2: You showed this to me. I had not before then,

540
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Speaker 2: but yes, now I have.

541
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Speaker 1: Whenever somebody recovers the turnover, whether it's an interception or

542
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: a fumble, they got a full bear coat from the

543
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Speaker 1: closet of their strength. Coach Vic Valoria it is awesome.

544
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Speaker 1: It is I don't know where you go from here

545
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: in the turnover prop game, right, go and read, go look,

546
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: look it up and google. There are guys on the

547
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: sideline wearing a full bear outfit, like a tanuki suit

548
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: in the old Mario. It's great. I love this so much.

549
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: I didn't know that people wore bear fur I didn't

550
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: know that that was a chosen fur coat. Yeah, I've

551
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: heard of like a mink coat.

552
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I had. I had a little bit of bear

553
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: on the back of my baseball glove when I was

554
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: growing up and playing in the mind.

555
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: I've seen the rugs. I've seen the bear skin rugs.

556
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, those creep me out. I don't like that.

557
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Not my thing for in general, is not my thing. No,

558
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: but I can appreciate the look of it.

559
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: Sure the bear coat. Go look up the bear coat.

560
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Even if your anti bear coat, it's pretty statement piece.

561
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: H's something, all right. So we sort of agree. We're

562
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: both taking the points here at a three point thirty

563
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: ESPN number nine, Texas on the road at unranked Florida,

564
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: Texas is a seven point road favorite. Dan, would you'd

565
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: like to take a ride with me on the underthink express.

566
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: Sure, let's ride it.

567
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Jootcho Florida is one in three? Would you say it

568
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: in a bit of a state of crisis.

569
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's crisis. I think everybody's

570
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: sort of at peace with what's going on.

571
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to fire billion apiers. What right? This

572
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: is how this story ends. The offense has been painful.

573
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: It has been painful. So now what you're telling me,

574
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: if this schedule is to be believed, and who knows

575
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: what we can believe anymore? Right, we are going to

576
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: take that offense and we're going to put it up

577
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: against an elite Texas defense that probably is the best

578
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: they're going to see all season. Realistically, how many points

579
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: can we expect here from Florida, like, barring four turnovers

580
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: and short fields from Texas? That's set up? What is

581
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: the truly now, what is the upper limit for points

582
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: that Florida can score against Texas?

583
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Twenty four? Upper limit? Realistic number upper if everything goes right?

584
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Twenty four.

585
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's north at twenty Okay,

586
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I might have it at seventeen.

587
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Got Dallas Wilson back Dallas.

588
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about that. Actually, Yeah, I've been waiting

589
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: for this. If you believe that Florida can cover this game,

590
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I think you're counting on one of two things. The

591
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: first is that Florida's defense, which is tough and has

592
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: kept him in games this season that they come to play.

593
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Texas offense has definitely had some warts as well, you know,

594
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: notably in the passing game, Arch hasn't been good. So

595
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: maybe the defense can kind of step up and provide

596
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: a different look, a different equation for Steve Sarkisian to

597
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: try and solve. And then the second bit of that

598
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: would be the home field advantage because they're playing this

599
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: one in the swamp, right, which, look, We've been around

600
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: college football for a long time at this point, you

601
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: can't discount these loud home environments unless it's a wide

602
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: out apparently, So I think there is a case to

603
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: be made for Florida. I'm not necessarily buying it, but

604
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Speaker 1: more to the point that you made earlier about Florida

605
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: State maybe having more pressure on them despite being a dog,

606
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I think you could probably make a similar case for

607
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Billion Apier and the Florida Gators because they need an

608
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: act of God at this point. I think to retain

609
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: his services, or for him to not be fired and

610
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: be retained at Florida. It may already be too little,

611
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: too late, but this is sort of like a must

612
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: win situation for them, and perhaps maybe some desperation mode

613
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: will light a fire. No, that's it. That's the best

614
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: I can do if I'm trying to craft that case.

615
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Florida Gator's home Dog of the Week, play the sound.

616
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: The Yakos Home Dog of the Week.

617
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Yacko's Hot Dogs is not a sponsor, well, certainly could be.

618
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: I loved my experience at Yako's. I don't know if

619
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: I love the food, but I loved my experience there.

620
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: It checked every box of like an old time neighborhood

621
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: hot dogs. It was everything you wanted in more. Yeah, yes,

622
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: exactly right. The case of Florida is easy, right. You

623
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: got to be able to ride the roller coaster when

624
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: you have a central belief system like I do, and

625
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: that is good defense at home tough place to play underdog. Right,

626
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: as a home dog, you take that team. Okay, you

627
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: take that to Rubric quarterback and defense. Though my Rubric

628
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: is quarterback in defense. But anytime you can give me

629
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: a home dog with a good defense and a tough

630
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: place to play, which the swamp very much is. I

631
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: take the points.

632
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: We were talking about DJ having the yips a week ago, and.

633
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: I stand by it time right to be true.

634
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't mean interrupt, continue, please

635
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: build your kid.

636
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: How many points it's week one? But how many points

637
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: did Texas score on the road against a good defense

638
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: on the road? Uh? Seven seven points, one touchdown? So

639
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: you don't need twenty twenty four points if we get

640
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: a similar performance from Texas in this spot, right, sure,

641
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: you don't need that many points. I grant you. This

642
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: is by low. I grant you. This is believing in

643
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: a last stand, last hot dog stand, if you will.

644
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: There is something about Florida in this spot. They have

645
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: equal time off rest. Right, they were both off last

646
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: week rest advantage, so there's no rest advantage. But it

647
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: is rest home and the worst of Florida. And you

648
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: could argue that also existed at home against USF. But

649
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: all right, you can. You can say they you know,

650
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: overlooked the bulls whatever they got to win that game.

651
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: That's a stupid game to lose in the manner that

652
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: they lost. That's a stupid way to lose that they

653
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: were awful in Death Valley against LSU, certainly very bad

654
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: against Miami offensively. But I think they have the defense.

655
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: And what is it that you've seen from Texas this

656
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: season in Austin away from Austin to make you say,

657
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: I think they're going to have this figured out against

658
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: a good defense in a tough place to play, when

659
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: I believe.

660
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: UTEP was a struggle, right, So well, look, it's it's

661
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: a very good question.

662
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: I understand why Texas is favored. Yeah, I just I

663
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: would imagine three and a half, four and a half.

664
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: That's just a bigger number than I anticipated. So they're

665
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: my home dog, and I'm not thinking twice.

666
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that's valid. I just I can't go

667
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: with Florida because it feels to me like Florida is

668
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: in disarray.

669
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: You gotta buy low. They're a penny stock. You gotta

670
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: buy low, you gotta have.

671
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Faith, but they're less than a penny stock. It feels

672
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: like they're in disarray. It feels like we were in

673
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: desperation mode three weeks ago and we're still there now.

674
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like they're getting better now. Maybe Dallas

675
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Wilson gives them some pop. I don't know, right, but

676
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm just not buying it. Like, if you believe that

677
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: Florida can cut or you're counting on that defense, sure,

678
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: and even that defense, which I generally like the defense,

679
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: they're not getting pressure at all. If they were, maybe

680
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: you could craft some sort of case given Arch Manning

681
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: struggles that involves turnovers and field position, and I'm just

682
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm not buying that.

683
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

684
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: I understand why the spread is where it is, but

685
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: to me, this looks like a fairly comfortable win for Texas.

686
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: I think it's something like twenty seven to thirteen. And

687
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: actually this might be a bit of a neck crack

688
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: for Arch if I could say that for a second.

689
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: How fun sixty one percent completion percentage so far this season.

690
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if we're talking about this game a

691
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: month from now about how this matchup for him, this

692
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: showing for him on the road in the swamp turned

693
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: things around. I think we're gonna get a good showing

694
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: out of him against this defense. Twenty seven thirteen is

695
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: my final.

696
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: We disagree three thirty ESPN two it's the hoose, Yeah, buddy.

697
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Ranked twenty fourth in the Country AUDIESPN two on the

698
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: road against Louisville. Louisville is a seven point oh favorite.

699
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: They are undefeated. They are obviously hosting a surprise team

700
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: in the Virginia Cavaliers. This is very quietly a massive

701
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: conference game in the ACC.

702
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: It very much is.

703
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: You're right, it is a massive conference game that nobody's

704
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: talking about. We haven't talked about Virginia much at all

705
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: this season, or Louisville for that matter. But if we

706
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: could just replay this for a second, it was a

707
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: mammoth upset, even though it wasn't a mammoth point spread,

708
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: but maybe an upset more in name only that Virginia

709
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: would win that game. A week ago in double overtime

710
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: against Florida State. Their offense is rolling over forty five

711
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: a game, over two hundred and forty rushing yards per game.

712
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Dan Chandler Morris has been a revelation at quarterback. It's

713
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: a very balanced, it's a very dangerous attack. So the

714
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: question is can they continue that momentum that was an

715
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: emotional win at home a week ago?

716
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: Now?

717
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Can they continue that again this week against another tough

718
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: opponent or are we going to see a bit of

719
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: a letdown. How do you feel?

720
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: So the concerns with Virginia are obvious, and the appeal

721
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: points for Virginia are obvious. Right that they're able to

722
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: move the ball, they're beat up up front on offense,

723
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: They're able to weather that against Florida State. The defense

724
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: is a concern for Virginia against a team that can

725
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: move the ball like Louisville. Although Louisville has been led

726
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: by their defense this season and it's you can point

727
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: out that it's a letdown spot for Virginia. That's totally fair.

728
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: Given the emotional nature of that win against FSU, it's

729
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: kind of a letdown spot for Louisville as well. Needing

730
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: to come back and beat Pitt on the road. That

731
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: was a tough spot that they were able to go out.

732
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: They were down seventeen zip after a quarter. Yeah, they

733
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: had to force five turnovers. To your point of being

734
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: led by defense, Miller Moss has been solid, but not

735
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: spectacular correct and notably for what it's worth. If we're

736
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: talking of this in terms of the point spread, Louisville

737
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: has not covered the point spread at home all year.

738
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: They did last week, but they have not covered that

739
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: point spread at home. They're zering three so far this season.

740
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: They also needed a strong fourth quarter to beat Jmu.

741
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: I want to say, Who's obviously a good team earlier

742
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: on in the season. It's not a direct letdown look

743
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: ahead for Louisville after beating Pitt. I think they have

744
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: Miami next, but it's after a bye. There is something

745
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: about Virginia that I just believe in that I think

746
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: this show travels. So I'm taking the points you.

747
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: Want to believe.

748
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: I want to believe. Okay, I'm believing in the Who's

749
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: right now? I think Louisville's good, But there is something

750
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: that I mean. I said that you were using old

751
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: stuff to inform your current opinion. I don't know if

752
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: I can escape. You know, Miller Moss Memories and last season.

753
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Miller Moss Watch extends across multiple seasons.

754
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Right, Moss Watch continues. And so I think Louisville is

755
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: good this year. Obviously we talked about the ACC being

756
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: wide open and Louisville. Why not Louisville right after Miami?

757
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: Of course, I just I don't know. I'm a Virginia believer,

758
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: and it's again double letdown spot. It's on the road

759
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: there's every reason in the world to think Louisville. But

760
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: something strikes me that the Cardinals haven't been especially pronounced

761
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: in their wins. And I'm I'm not gonna say lro

762
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: luck runs out, but I'm just not a believer that

763
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: they're on solid ground yet.

764
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Virginia is like the Bell and Polar Express, where you

765
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: can see it and you could see somebody shaking it,

766
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: but you can only hear that sweet, sweet sound if

767
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: you truly believe.

768
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't seen Polar Express. That's Tom Hanks.

769
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: You never seen Polar Express.

770
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: No, you're out here watching kids movies.

771
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of kids.

772
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: It's one of the bet Hold on, this is the

773
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Polar Express? Is one with Tom Hanks? Right?

774
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: Is one with Tom Hanks?

775
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's animated.

776
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: It's animated. It's fantastic.

777
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: It's from two thousand and four.

778
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Listen. I'm a huge Chris van Alsberg fan. I was

779
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: back in the day. I still am to this day.

780
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: I got a whole collection over at mommy age's house.

781
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: If that's the author, that's the author.

782
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he put his dog in all the all

783
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: of the books and everything. Yeah. I got an autograph

784
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: from him. I was very into Chris van Alsberg. Holy holy, yeah. Okay,

785
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: so don't lecture me on polar Express, Dan, but.

786
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: That's the first place you go with like believing, with faith,

787
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: polar express the bells.

788
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: The first place I go. It's the first place I'm going.

789
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Here right, fair enough to where you stand.

790
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't believe. Okay, I'm not hearing that bell. I

791
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: like the momentum that Virginia might have, but I do

792
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: think it's an obvious letdown spot it is going into

793
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: this game with Louisville. I think this is gonna be

794
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: a fun game. I think Virginia's offense is good enough

795
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: that it's going to score, but I also think that

796
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Louisville's defense is good enough that they're going to force

797
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: more turnovers. Totally, and I'm just like the letdown potential

798
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: that could be on display for Virginia, that to me

799
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: is a little bit worrying. Now, maybe they come out,

800
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: maybe they show a level of maturity that I am

801
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: under selling right now, and if they do, good for them.

802
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting against Virginia. It was an incredible win.

803
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: A week ago. They're ranked in the top twenty five.

804
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: I was looking. I think we talked about it at

805
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: some point, but like, there's a really good chance that

806
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: this is a team that gets to eight wins at

807
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: this point given the remaining schedule, which would be an

808
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: absolute coop for Tony Elliott. Right he was on the

809
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: hot seat to start this season. So to come now

810
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: into this game with real ACC Conference ramifications, that's a

811
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: huge win for them. Good for him, great for them.

812
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm just not on it. I'm not on it. It's

813
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: still a good story even if they lose. I've got

814
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: Louisville something like thirty five four, and I'm actually gonna

815
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: make it my lock of the week, luck of the week.

816
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: So maybe the best news yet for Virginia. I wasna

817
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: saying I might lock up Virginia right now. Holy moly.

818
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough some.

819
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: Other quick games. Let's just mentioned him here in passing please.

820
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got thoughts on Wisconsin at Michigan.

821
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: This one's at high noon on Fox, Michigan favored by

822
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half points. Yeah, are we done so

823
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: on Wisconsin at this point?

824
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: The only thing that you can feel, I think decent

825
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: about in this game is Wisconsin has done a really

826
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: good job against the run. Now, granted they played against Alabama,

827
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: who doesn't run the ball and hasn't had a lot

828
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: of success. I don't know what the exact numbers were

829
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: from that game, but the numbers have been okay, And actually, no,

830
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: they've been pretty good for Wisconsin against the run, and

831
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: obviously we know that's where Michigan shines the brightest on offense.

832
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, throwing into this Michigan defense, Michigan coming off

833
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: of a bye, I think this equal rest time Wisconsin

834
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: also coming off of an off week. But I just

835
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 2: there's no real reason to believe Wisconsin can keep this close.

836
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: And there is every reason in the world to believe

837
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: that Michigan can generate points from their defense via short

838
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: fields and you know, maybe get some explosion plays. So

839
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm on Michigan here to cover a big spread. But

840
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's just the lack of offense from Wisconsin.

841
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: I just don't know how they get to thirteen points

842
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: in this one.

843
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: This is like forty one seventeen or something like that.

844
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: In favor of Michigan, I'm with you three point thirty

845
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: on Peacock Boise State making the trip to South bend

846
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: to square off against Notre Dame. When I made the

847
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: document earlier in the week, it was Notre Dame minus

848
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. It jumped up to twenty and

849
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: a half. I still don't think it's high enough. I

850
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: think Notre Dame is going to absolutely beat the daylights

851
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: out of Boise State that game a week ago against Arkansas,

852
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: And granted, Arkansas's got its own ishe They just fired

853
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: their coach as a result of what Notre Dame did.

854
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: But Notre Dame I think sent a real signal later

855
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: in that game when they were up like forty points

856
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: and chose to run a fake punt. Sure, this is

857
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: a boise defense that I don't think is very good.

858
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I just don't it's not. So my thought is that

859
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is going to run it up wherever possible.

860
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: I think they know what the assignment is. I think

861
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: they know they need to look damn impressive every game

862
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: moving forward. They do have a usc game coming up

863
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: in a couple weeks that's obviously the biggest one left

864
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: on the schedule. But Boise State could well be a

865
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: top twenty five team by the time, all of a

866
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: sudden done You never like to count a team like

867
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Boise out of that G five slash G six whatever

868
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: we're calling it, playoff spot. They're not my first pick

869
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: at this juncture, but Boise State obviously has some name

870
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: recognition and they're going to be part of that conversation.

871
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not. Notre Dame is going

872
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: to hammer them. They're absolutely going to hammer them, making

873
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: it by lock of the week. So I don't want

874
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: to jinx it, but I think Notre Dame wins this

875
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: one going away by like thirty points.

876
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: All right, you heard it here first, Ty and I

877
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: agree Notre Dame's defensive issues are done with Notre Dame.

878
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: They're not done. Chris ash are on the same page.

879
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's locked in. They're ready to continue a pace with

880
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: their defensive dominance in the field.

881
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: Is Boise's defense? I agree that probably, and they're going

882
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: to get destroyed.

883
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: Boise can move the ball. They've been scoring points, granted

884
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: lesser competition. Notre Dame traditionally does not struggle with G

885
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: five teams when things are looking good. Right now, I'm

886
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: just being an ass tih. That's where they exactly struggle.

887
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm aware, thank you.

888
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: I think there's no real reason to feel great, like

889
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: to feel great about Boise State keeping this reasonably close,

890
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: unless you are truly that against what Chris ash has

891
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: done with this defense. Because the offense does appear to

892
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: be in a really strong place for Notre Dame. CJ.

893
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Carr looks more and more comfortable by the week. You know,

894
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: the Malachi fields like Jaden Greadhouse there Notre Dame. You're

895
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: gonna have to sort of sit down for this and

896
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: write this down. But they're throwing the ball to receivers effectively.

897
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Carr looks really good.

898
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: I haven't said that in a long time.

899
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: He looks really good, really good.

900
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: He against Arkansas, granted Arkansas, but that's a real opponent.

901
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: The comfort he had and the effortlessness with which he

902
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: played stepping into the pocket. He's not buying time by

903
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: running backwards or anything like that. You know, he throws

904
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: the ball down the field confidently. One of your complaints

905
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: early on about Notre Dame this season was that Mike

906
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: Denbrock and you know, Marcus Freeman weren't opening up the offense.

907
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: He was going downfield, went down like he would. It

908
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: looked like he was very much encouraged to take shots.

909
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: He wasn't the most accurate all of the time, but

910
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: whether it was play design, whether it was Arkansas's defense,

911
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: there he hit plenty down field to wide open receivers,

912
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: and so I thought that was a very good sign

913
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: for what No. Dame's offense can be moving forward.

914
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: What I like about what I have seen so far

915
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: a very comfortable in the pocket, doesn't seem to be

916
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: two phased by anything that defenses are throwing at him.

917
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: It helped that he had time against Arkansas. Right, you

918
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: bring pressure, it's a different story. But he seems to

919
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: like very effortlessly work through his progressions and he doesn't

920
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: get happy feed while he's doing it. He processes the

921
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: game very quickly. He seems to always know the right

922
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: place to go with the football, even if the passes

923
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: aren't fully accurate, and even still the accuracy is pretty good.

924
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: It's just he's young. He's still stepping into this thing

925
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: and learning what it takes to be QB one. I'm

926
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: very encouraged. I'm incredibly encouraged. I have been screaming at

927
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain for years now. Please develop

928
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: some sort of downfield passing a game passing attack. Excuse me.

929
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: If you do that, especially now with this compliment of

930
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: running backs, and if the line can progress, that makes

931
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing better. It makes the whole thing better.

932
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: They didn't try any of this against Miami. They tried

933
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more of it against sexis A and

934
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: m but those are separate conversations. Altogether, I really like

935
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: what I saw for Notre Dame last week. I think

936
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: they're gonna pound Boise State this week.

937
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. I just couldn't find that reason.

938
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: The other thing is the Boise State passing game these

939
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: past couple of seasons, whenever they play a very much

940
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: real team. It just like, even though Maddix Madson threw

941
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: some nice passes against Penn State last year, I think

942
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: he threw three picks in the game against Penn the

943
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: playoff game against Penn State, like the just the passing

944
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: game is not there against the realist Boise opponents. And

945
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: I think you'd need that against Notre Dame. So yeah,

946
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm going I think Notre Dame wins is very comfortably.

947
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: We'll see some under the radar games, Dan, Please, if

948
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: you're looking for reasons to be interested in some other matchups.

949
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: I've got a handful of them for you today, Okay, sure,

950
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: start at high noon, Big ten Network number twenty two Illinois,

951
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: fresh off that big home win over us SEE on

952
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: the road in West Lafayette against the Perdue boiler Makers.

953
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: Small drummer, big drum.

954
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: Perdue, huge drum, big base. You got the biggest drum,

955
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: huge drum. Yeah, Purdue a nine and a half point

956
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: home dog. Very interesting. Let them look ahead spot here

957
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: for Illinois because the.

958
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Middle child sandwich of the middle Child is actually a

959
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: really good name for a letdown lookout.

960
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't make a great sandwich too.

961
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: Down a field, huge win last week over usc big

962
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: game on deck at home against Ohio State. Sandwich in

963
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: the middle. We've got the lowly Perdue boilet Makers. I

964
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: will add one other thing, though, Dan. This comes to

965
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: us from verbal or Samantha Perdue is oh and ten

966
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: on weeks where Taylor Swift releases an.

967
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: Album that's not against the spread though, just in tent

968
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: just stand up. That's just outright.

969
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So I am sorry to say this, but

970
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: sadly it's true. The Swifty First is coming for Purdue again.

971
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: Album something like, I'm a showgirl. I believe it comes

972
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: out of a showgirl.

973
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: You excited?

974
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'll check it out.

975
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean i'll check it out.

976
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Will you have a final copy in your house?

977
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure Kate's already ordered it. Yeah, okay, I check

978
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, okay, don't be ashamed. I'm not ashamed,

979
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: too old to be ashamed. I'm not picking Prdue to

980
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: win out right. It wouldn't surprise me if they cover, though,

981
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: because this is a weird spot for Illinois under the

982
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: radar game, I agree three thirty also, hold hold on,

983
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold Oh go ahead, good?

984
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: I fully agree with you, do you? I'm taking points here.

985
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: Illinois SECONDARYA is beat up. They tried everything they could

986
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: to give away the game against usc. Perdue can only

987
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: do one thing well, and that's throw the ball. I

988
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: think Barry Odom's a good coach. And which program allowed

989
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Perdue boiler Makers to score fifty

990
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: points in a game? Are they bringing a swifty curse?

991
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: Is that what you're telling me? I don't think I'm

992
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: not at right, but I think that Illinois gets a

993
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: scare and they win this game. Also, the last time

994
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Illinois went on the road, they lost by fifty five

995
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: points or something.

996
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: They get a swifty scare. Yeah, swifty scare now three

997
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: thirty ten Network. Yeah, Washington on the road at Maryland.

998
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: H I'd a very angry Maryland fan right to us.

999
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: By the way, were we being dismissive or not mentioning

1000
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: Maryland enough?

1001
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: I think we were being dismissive in the pregame or

1002
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: the preseason. Excuse me, I didn't think much of this team.

1003
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: I didn't, I really didn't. I don't know if I

1004
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: was right or wrong about that. I do think they've

1005
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: been better than I expected.

1006
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: Fau and IU Taos in Wisconsin. Who's about to fire

1007
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: their coach? What can't they do? Continue?

1008
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: They are a six and a half point home dog.

1009
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: Now with Washington traveling cross country, yeah, I love betting

1010
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: against against teams that go cross country. This might be

1011
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: my new favorite thing on this show.

1012
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in a letdown spot.

1013
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: It is a letdown spot. I am going to take

1014
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Maryland plus the number. I think Washington's better, but this

1015
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: could be an opportunity for Maryland to win a game

1016
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: outside the month of September, which is kind of new

1017
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: in its own right, as we recorded this October. First,

1018
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: you're right, it is October. So here we go. Let's

1019
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: do it. Let's go Maryland plus the points. But I'm

1020
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: still on Washington out right.

1021
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: So the numbers indicate that Maryland has a strong to

1022
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: very strong defense. The opponents indicate that who knows, right

1023
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: for Maryland, we kind of have a concept that Washington's

1024
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: defense is not all that good. They weren't that great

1025
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 2: against Ohio State. They weren't that great before Ohio State.

1026
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: Maryland's offense is not that good. Starting a freshman quarterback,

1027
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: there's going to be some lumps and they're not going

1028
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: to open up the full playbook likely for him.

1029
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Like him, though, Yes, I do like him. I think

1030
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: he's looked pretty good in his.

1031
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: Owner interesting ceiling. Yeah, I like Maryland here too. Yeah,

1032
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Washington lost to Rutgers last year, but that's last year,

1033
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: different quarterback, different team, whatever. I think Washington's good, but

1034
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a tough spot. I think Maryland at

1035
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: home with even if the defense isn't strong to very strong,

1036
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: even if it's just fine, that's there's still a dog.

1037
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: I think people are gonna be excited. What time is kickoff?

1038
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 1: Kickoff is three point thirty on the Britain Family.

1039
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: So not a crazy body clock situation for Washington. Sort

1040
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: of right in the middle there. I'm gonna go Maryland here.

1041
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: This is just the kind of spot. I'm gonna go

1042
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: Maryland outright by the way. Woo yeah the turtle twenty

1043
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: seven twenty four Maryland outright fear of the Turtle.

1044
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: Four o'clock FS one. We got Michigan State on the

1045
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: road at Nebraska. Nebraska favored by eleven and a half points. Dan,

1046
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of points. To be honest

1047
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: with you, it.

1048
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Does feel like a lot of points.

1049
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: Like if Dilan Royola is half as good as everyone's

1050
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: been yelling at us, he should have a field day

1051
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: against Michigan State. Right, this is not a good Michigan.

1052
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: State past and they're beat up. But I think linebacker

1053
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: Michigan State is like they have. They have a lot

1054
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: of defensive issues in this moment.

1055
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I just think Sparta is feisty. I think they're

1056
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: going to score. I still generally like their offense, I

1057
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: like their players. I think Nebraska wins, but I want

1058
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: Michigan State in the points. Man, this is way too

1059
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: many points.

1060
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: What did I put down here? I put down? Oh,

1061
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: here we go. I gotta scroll down for Michigan State Nebraska.

1062
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: Oh.

1063
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even pick a winner in this game. I'm

1064
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: not taking Michigan State because the game is in Nebraska.

1065
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: But to your point, you are always in a game

1066
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: against a team who can't stop the run. And Nebraska

1067
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: cannot stop the run, and Michigan State can move the

1068
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: ball a little bit on the ground. I think they're

1069
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: better through the air than on the ground, but in

1070
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: this kind of environment bringing that defense to Lincoln, I

1071
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: think Nebraska wins this game and covers double digits.

1072
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Seven pm. ESPN. It's number eleven Texas Tech on the

1073
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: road at Houston. Houston is a eleven and a half

1074
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: point do I'm not making any kind of wild prediction here.

1075
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say that I'm generally interested in

1076
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: home dogs, as you know, and my common all year

1077
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: has been that Houston place tough. I think Houston is

1078
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: tougher than meets the eye. You can bring out some

1079
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: of the offensive numbers. I know those aren't great. I

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00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: get it again. We have the same spreadsheet, so I've

1081
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: seen it. I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, I

1082
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: think this is an interesting test for both sides of

1083
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: this one. I think Tech is better. Tech is going

1084
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: to win. It would not surprise me if this ended

1085
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: up being like thirty to twenty and Houston gets a

1086
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: little bit of a backdoor cover.

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00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: They have a common opponent this early on in Oregon State,

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00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: Texas Tech shall lack the beaves. I mean a lot

1089
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: of people are going to beat Oregon State this year,

1090
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: and Houston beat them in overtime. It was a narrow win.

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00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is likely very, very good. We're also taughtalking

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: about a home doog with what we think is probably

1093
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: at least a pretty good defense here. I don't know

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00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: if i'd consider Houston a swamp level difficult place to play. No,

1095
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not there with Houston and my belief system.

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00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking Texas Tech, but I don't love it. I

1097
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: don't love them in this spot. Does Texas Tech have

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00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: any sort of look ahead because they're coming off of

1099
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: bye which I like as well as is Houston know

1100
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: Houston played Friday night against Oregon State. Texas Tech has

1101
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Kansas tough, but not like that's not what biggest game

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00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: of the season.

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00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Now, if it were two weeks in the future, you

1104
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: could say, well, they're on the road at Arizona State.

1105
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: That could be a little bit of a look ahead. Agree,

1106
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't see it this week though. I think they'll

1107
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: be focused. I think they'll be ready to go. They're

1108
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: coming off of a bye week. I think they win.

1109
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: But it again, Houston is one of these teams that

1110
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: kind of scares me. And I stand by what I've

1111
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: been saying for a while now, they're going to dump.

1112
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: The well coach team.

1113
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: Houston's in this same class as like Wake Forest teams

1114
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: that you know, still trying to build the thing, still

1115
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure it all out, working with new coaches.

1116
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: I guess we'll Yeah, Houston's second year guy and Willie Fritz,

1117
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: but still kind of piecing this thing together. It might

1118
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: take a while, but these are teams that are playing

1119
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: with a lot of heart. When you're a home dog,

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know at nither Way. Yeah, big team coming in.

1121
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: I let's say thirty to twenty. Let's say that that's

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: my final thirty to twenty. My prediction Tech wins Houston covers.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Also Baron Morton on the road

1124
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: is not Baron Morton and Lubbock and not even close.

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Speaker 1: Ten thirty espn Okay, Duke at Cal Cal is a

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00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: three point home dog. They are also ties Home Dog

1127
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: of the Week the Yakos Home Dog of the Week.

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00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: I hate the cross country travels situation, the hinterlands of

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: the I hate it going even more when you're going

1130
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: from east to west west east. I can deal with

1131
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: east to west. Forget about it. Okay, I got Cal

1132
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: out right here. You mey Cal outright with the points.

1133
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm all on the Golden Bears here.

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: I have Cal outright as well. Duke weirdly has one

1135
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: of the worst pass defenses I believe in the country,

1136
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: and they're getting your guy Jks and Tron Grizzel. I

1137
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: really wish it were Grizzle, but it's Grizzel. Yeah, I'm

1138
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: gonna go Cal here. I think it's a good matchup.

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: This is, by the way, so it's a ten to

1140
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: thirty PM Eastern kick. So this is ten thirty Duke

1141
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: body time kick, which they'll try their best to acclimate.

1142
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, top Dog is the hot dog

1143
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: of choice of yours truly in the Berkeley area.

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00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: I thought you were retired from hot dogs.

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00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I can't recognize a good dog from

1146
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: my past.

1147
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: You actually came out of retirement this past.

1148
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Did briefly come out of retirement? I was starving at

1149
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: a tailgate.

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00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: You just like suddenly fell silent because we walked. I

1151
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: think I mentioned this on one of the shows. We

1152
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: walked eleven point two miles around the tailgate scene outside

1153
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Beaver Stadium, and at one point we went to visit Tyler,

1154
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: one of our long time for bawlers, who graciously invited

1155
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: us to his tailgate. By the way, if you invited

1156
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: us to your tailgate, you're gonna get an email from

1157
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: us shortly. Yes, But we went to go see Tyler.

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: We walked down a hill to get there. It was

1159
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of a long jaunt to get over. Yeah, And

1160
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: at some point you just sort of fell silent.

1161
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1162
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: And there was a passing moment where I was like,

1163
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: is Dan's still with us? Mentally?

1164
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm still not sure.

1165
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm still not sure either. The same could be said

1166
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: for me. So he came out of retirement. You ate

1167
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: a hot dog, you said it was good, So that's.

1168
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: Well, it was just I hadn't eat eaten anything. And

1169
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: it was Tyler, right, that was his name, he probably

1170
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: still is. He's like, oh, we have some food if

1171
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: you guys are interested. There's some like buffalo chicken pop salad.

1172
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: There's some hot dogs. I think we're out of our burgers.

1173
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah whatever wasn't like guys load up on food, right,

1174
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: wasn't like crazy enthusiastic, but very hospitable and nice about it.

1175
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: And I said, Tyler, I'm about to eat your food.

1176
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: That was so hungry. So I took down a dog

1177
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: and some pasta salad.

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Speaker 1: It was great, awesome, awesome, still a really good time. Yeah,

1179
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: legs is still a little bit sore, but that was

1180
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

1181
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. We d it like four different tailgates.

1182
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: It was the best a couple other games. Rapid Fire.

1183
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: I just want to go through these Rapid Fire, Okay,

1184
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: please do high noon ESPN Clemson on the road at

1185
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Clemson favored by fourteen on the road.

1186
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm going North Carolina. Really, you know why? You know, why?

1187
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: What the hell has Clemson done? Fourteen points is so

1188
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: many points? What the hell is North Carolina done? I

1189
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: totally agree, Ty, I am on your side. I think

1190
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: I legitimately stink this year.

1191
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there evidence that Clemson doesn't fourteen? It's just

1192
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: too big a number. It's just too big a number.

1193
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine, you want.

1194
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: To do that. You sure I do want to do that. Yes.

1195
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: North Carolina's defense at times has been fine.

1196
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: One PM on the c dub Wake Forest at Virginia Tech.

1197
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech favored by seven points here.

1198
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, six seven points. I'm taking Wake Care.

1199
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: Give me Wake Baby, give me Wake.

1200
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: Weg is just going to be a thorn at everybody's side,

1201
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: and they're going to win some of these. They can

1202
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: stop the run. Obviously, Virginia Tech ran the hell out

1203
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: of the ball. Was it Terry and Stewart for the

1204
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: Hokies last week? I just think it's a good matchup

1205
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: for Wake Virginia Tech squeaks by. I just don't think

1206
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: they've earned a number like that. Let's go to the

1207
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: nightcap seven thirty sec.

1208
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Network. It is Mississippi State on the road at Texas.

1209
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: A and M. Now, no crazy predictions from me. We

1210
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: both think pretty highly of A and M. Yes, you

1211
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: had them number one in the sec No.

1212
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: I did not. I said there's a case for like

1213
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: four or five different teams. Yeah, excuse me, but you

1214
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: had them up there. Yeahissippi State has been a very

1215
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: good story so far.

1216
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm interested in seeing how they match up. There are

1217
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: another one of these teams that feels like they're going

1218
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: to be hard out the rest of the way. Texas

1219
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: A and M is at home, they're at night, but

1220
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: they're favored by fourteen points. Is that too much against

1221
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi State for me?

1222
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm taking Mississippi State here. It's obviously a letdown

1223
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: spot losing to Tennessee in overtime. There is just something

1224
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: about Texas A and M, like they're very clear flaws

1225
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: to go along with clear talents and advantages that I

1226
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: think you need to be closer to a finished product

1227
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: to be favored against what I believe to be in

1228
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: Mississippi State a quality team, not a great team, a

1229
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: quality team. And so it's kind of like see it before.

1230
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: You're fully willing to get on board with A and

1231
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: M here because there's like, the running backs are great

1232
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: at A and M. The best of Marcel Reid is great.

1233
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: The offensive line has been dependably very good, for Texas

1234
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: A and M. There's a lot to like about this defense,

1235
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: but in terms of producing, stopping teams in the red zone,

1236
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: finishing drives, I'm not there for a number like that yet,

1237
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: and this is a great week to prove it.

1238
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: And the last one that I've got here on my lists,

1239
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: the Rapid Fire list, seven point thirty on Peacock, Minnesota

1240
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: on the road at number one, number two. I guess

1241
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: it depends where you look, if you're looking at Verbowler

1242
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: Pole or elsewhere. Ohio State is favored by twenty three

1243
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: and a half points against the Gold Go First.

1244
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: It's a lot of points.

1245
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of points against the highest graded passer

1246
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten, Great Drake Lindsay.

1247
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State hasn't been especially explosive this year on offense,

1248
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: nor have they really tried to be. They're not taking

1249
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: shots with Julian saying they're working them in with reasonable

1250
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 2: I don't know they're being very deliberate with how they

1251
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: are playing offense. I think they're just led by their

1252
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: defense and smart decision making on offense. And man, I

1253
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: wish I believed in Minnesota. I wish they could move

1254
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: the ball somewhat on the ground. I wish they did

1255
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: something excellently on defense. I just don't think they're going

1256
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: to keep it all that close. That said, this has

1257
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: like prime Ohio State, very like crock Pots. Gets out

1258
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: to like a thirty five to seven lead, pulls starters

1259
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: near the end of the third quarter, and there's just

1260
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: like a nice comfortable backdoor cover from Minnesota losing this

1261
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: game thirty seven to fourteen, something like that.

1262
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: I am going to go Ohio State. Yeah, but I

1263
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: am genuinely curious to see what Drake Lindsay looks like

1264
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: against this defense. I like Drake Lindsey. This continues my

1265
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: long standing tradition of liking every Minnesota quarterback until I

1266
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: feel like I've been slighted.

1267
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: If you're not watching on YouTube, Tye is wearing his

1268
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: throwback eighthan caliak manas Jersey right now, that's right.

1269
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: If we're being honest, there could be a little bit

1270
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: of look ahead here for Ohio. Well, yeah, Illinois on

1271
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: the road next week. It's a big game. Yeah, okay,

1272
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,440
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1273
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,840
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1276
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1279
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1280
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1281
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1285
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: which again I saw some of the numbers while we

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01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: were away last weekend. I want to say it was

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Speaker 1: something like seven thousand messages that were exchanged on her

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Speaker 1: minday on game day last week. Obviously a big week

1289
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Speaker 1: Week five. But if you're a college football fan, if

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Speaker 1: you want to hang out with other college football fans

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Speaker 1: and talk about what's going on, it's a great place

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Speaker 1: to do so. You also get access to the game.

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Speaker 1: Run the Board. Run the Board is our weekly pick

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Speaker 1: them game, twelve games you pick them against the spread.

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Speaker 1: We give a fabulous prize out to the winner. There

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Speaker 1: is also an ongoing season long contest If you finish

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Speaker 1: in the top five, you get a seat on our

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Speaker 1: board of trustees. This week, Dan, the winner gets a

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars gift card to gold Belly.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember gold Belly. We talked about gold Belly

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Speaker 1: diff pizza in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: What I ordered a Langer's Pastrami sandwich from La It's

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing that held up super well. It's great.

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Speaker 1: They will deliver it right to your door. It is

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Speaker 1: a great way to spend game day. Gold Belly one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars gift card. We're buying that on

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Speaker 1: our own accord out of the old jar. Petty cash

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Speaker 1: here over at SVHQ.

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Speaker 2: Stop.

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Speaker 1: What you're doing to the victor goes the gold Belly spoils.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of spoils, Ty, will you drop that big stanky convulsing,

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Speaker 2: rabid Drummond Fife for.

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Speaker 1: Me High noon on Saturday, Richmond at three and two

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Speaker 1: on the road at buck Now three and two. We

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Speaker 1: drove right through the belly of the buck Now Beast

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Speaker 1: on the way home on I eighty Dan on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: It was so meaningful we didn't even mention that we

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Speaker 1: went through it.

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Speaker 2: Is that true.

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Speaker 1: You probably didn't even know it unless you saw signs

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Speaker 1: and recognized it. But I gotta go buck now here.

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Speaker 1: This is a matchup of a newcomer in the Patriot League,

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Speaker 1: the Richmond Spiders. They're on the road at the Nellies. Typically,

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Speaker 1: I don't go Nelly's. I'm gonna go Nelly's here.

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Speaker 2: So buck Nell in the way that I think it

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Speaker 2: was the first episode of the OC. Welcome to the OC,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the pat League. Buck Nell gets it done

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Speaker 2: against Richmond next.

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Speaker 1: High noon Yale two and zero on the road over

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Speaker 1: here at Goodman Stadium, Lee High Mountains five and zero

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Speaker 1: on the year, trying to make playoff push. Dan gave

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Speaker 1: me the Mountahawks.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back Lee High by thirty five, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no question.

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Speaker 1: Twelve thirty Fordham one four on the road at your Lehigh?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, what did I say? Lehigh? Lafayette?

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Speaker 2: Lastete me? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Well? I see Lafayette, I think Lehigh because Lee High

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Speaker 1: owns Lafayette. But right, alas Lafayette three and two hosting Fordham.

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Speaker 1: Who you got?

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Speaker 2: I got Lafayette?

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Speaker 1: Pick.

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Speaker 2: Did we not meet a bud of yours who lives

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Speaker 2: in Easton? We did shout out to I believe Andy,

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Speaker 2: Magnificent Beard, Andrew excuse.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, wonderful Beard. He's a penn stater though he's got

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Speaker 1: no affiliation.

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Speaker 2: With what I know, but he knows where. He knows

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Speaker 2: where championship lives are made, and that's Easton, PA. Continue

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Speaker 2: One pm.

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Speaker 1: Morgan State two and three on the road at Georgetown

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Speaker 1: also two and three, this one being played in multi

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Speaker 1: sports field. I think we know which direction we're going here.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we're going Georgetown here. You gotta go that situation.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Two pm. Colgate one and

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Speaker 1: three on the road at Cornell Battle of the Seas Cornell,

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Speaker 1: Oh and two. We got.

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Speaker 2: Ivy's tough man. IVY Week is tough. You know, the

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Speaker 2: IVY League. They're going to the playoffs this year for

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Speaker 2: the first time I saw that FCS playoffs. Yea eligible,

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Speaker 2: I'm going Cornell here. They're getting on the board against.

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Speaker 1: The Gators and last, but certainly not least. Yeah, Harvard

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Speaker 1: two and oh Harvard on the road at holy Cross?

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Speaker 1: Holy Cross? Is this right? They're zero to five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of people are saying the Oregon State

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Speaker 2: of the pat League.

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Speaker 1: That's what A lot of that is not od.

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Speaker 2: Harvard by a million. By the way, do you know

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Speaker 2: Harvard and Bill C's SP plus ranks is like eightieth

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Speaker 2: in the country. Really is that they're ahead of Fly Northwestern,

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Speaker 2: in UCLA and Oklahoma State. Harvard is top I believe

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Speaker 2: eighty five or ninety in the country right now. Their

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Speaker 2: quarterback is legit, Jadeen Craig, I call him Blade and

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Speaker 2: Craig colon cutting through defense defenses. Yeah, Harvard's in a

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Speaker 2: good place, man. Harvard's tough. They won the IVY last year.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to beat holy Cross by I

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Speaker 2: don't know, eighty to ninety points.

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Speaker 1: This legit means that Harvard could be favored over like Ucla.

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Speaker 2: I think if we were to ask Bill and get

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Speaker 2: a custom spread or a custom prediction against take your

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Speaker 2: pick of teams that are down P five or G

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Speaker 2: six whatever, that Harvard would be favored on a neutral

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Speaker 2: field by a handful of points.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So look this weekend

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Speaker 1: isn't his jam packed as last. So if you do

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Speaker 1: need to go out and be amongst the people, if

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Speaker 1: your window opportunity, I think your windows anytime before we

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Speaker 1: before four pm Eastern time, even if it goes a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Yeah, back maybe by five, catch the

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Speaker 1: afternoon showing of cats. Whatever you're into, go to the

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Speaker 1: pumpkin patch. Dan and I we were talking a lot

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Speaker 1: about farms on the way home. Maybe you're into like

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Speaker 1: the apple picking thing. Someone's dragging you out to do

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Speaker 1: that right now?

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Speaker 2: Insider donuts.

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Speaker 1: Sure the reason for the season. If you gotta do that,

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Speaker 1: just be back by like dinner time Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Okay, has mel Hiper season started for you? Are you

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Speaker 2: picking up pumpkin pies of Wegmans?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't. I don't need storebop pumpkin pie.

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Speaker 2: Can you excuse me? Are you going to make a

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Speaker 2: pumpkin pie? Or are people making you pumpkin pies yet?

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Speaker 1: Mom age has already begun the process? Yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to burn door. I just want pumpkin pie.

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Speaker 2: Does does anybody respect that wish?

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Speaker 1: Generally?

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Speaker 2: No, Okay, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But my pumpkin pie for me is I'm not full

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Speaker 1: Kuiper because Kyper eats one a day apparently.

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Speaker 2: And your birthday is Thanksgiving season, right it is? No,

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Speaker 2: you're in your mid to late forties this Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: How dare you?

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Speaker 2: It's great? You should get a pumpkin pie.

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure pumpkin pie season.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I guess the opposite of the window of opportunity is

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a quad fix My.

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Speaker 2: Question to you is how bad you really want place?

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Speaker 1: If you're going to be around your TV anyway, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to be going out. Your optimal quad is

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Speaker 1: actually in the afternoon. You can build this either if

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Speaker 1: you've got one of the streaming services that lets you

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Speaker 1: build it, or if you just got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: screens you want to make it on your own. But

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Speaker 1: three point thirty is sort of like the jackpot Vandy

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Speaker 1: at Bama, Texas APT Florida, Virginia at Louisville, and you know,

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Speaker 1: because we're both interested in Washington at Maryland that's also

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Speaker 1: in that range. You could, depending on your affiliation sub

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Speaker 1: in Boise at Notre Dame, Penn State at UCLA, although

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be much big game or

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Speaker 1: staggered a little bit. The four pm game, the Michigan

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Speaker 1: State versus Nebraska game I think could be kind of

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Speaker 1: interesting as well. So you got like seven really good options,

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Speaker 1: all within about a half hour of each other. If

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Speaker 1: you want to build the quad and truly recognize and

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Speaker 1: realize your destiny as the quad father in week six.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you want to build quads, listen

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Speaker 2: to Tom Platts and do squats. That seems reasonable, maybe

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Speaker 2: like a healthy amount, not like a crazy.

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Speaker 1: Don't do yeah, don't do what he did.

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Speaker 2: But if you're a Penn Stater and you want to

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Speaker 2: build love handles, go to Lucky Boy for a breakfast

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Speaker 2: burrito in Pasadena. Oh buddy, Oh that's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, look we got to shoot here. We've

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Speaker 1: been going for about an hour and fifteen. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: Dan and I do, which truly goes a long way.

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Speaker 1: We're always interested in growing this big tent here.

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 1: We need your help to do it, though. Please if

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Speaker 1: you are interested, if you like what you hear, please

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Speaker 1: help support us, even if you're not doing it on

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Speaker 1: the Patreon. Just spread the word. That's all I ask.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Tie and look, if you're looking to

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Speaker 2: sew your oats, get out there and score responsibly.

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Speaker 1: How is the mood striking you now? For that guy

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Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand,

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Speaker 1: thank you one and all for supporting what we do.

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Speaker 1: As Dan said, go out there and score responsible and

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Speaker 1: stay solid.

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Speaker 2: Peace,