WEBVTT - Episode 231 "Sean Garrett"

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<v Speaker 1>Um borrow with me here. You know BT's so low,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out oct no color what we see O getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid the bula backing. You can't stand on the home

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<v Speaker 1>SUSI already you know he can't ball with me because

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<v Speaker 1>you have with the square to me they getting they

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<v Speaker 1>called to me balla. Welcome to the Battle Show. Podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>available everywhere you get your podcasts. I go by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Ferrari Simmons. I go about now you know

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<v Speaker 1>BT with that man living legend in the building. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do snapshir we do snaps the bold famous sea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's up, sir. Welcome to the show man. We said snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you doing snaps? Man? Give me novation. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't know this, but I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>you all the time. We talked all the time. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends in the industry that I met in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry, but we talked about personal stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you pulling up on us. Man. We go,

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<v Speaker 1>how you host a show with us? Then we will

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<v Speaker 1>getting your business? Okay, all right, here we go. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys thoughts on LSU, Angel Reese and Jill Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jill Biden controversy. You guys know that LSU won

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<v Speaker 1>the we didn't know that ship for people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because it's a podcast and some people be in

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<v Speaker 1>Lala land. Um, Jill Biden, the uh, the wife of

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<v Speaker 1>the president, the first lady. She invited both teams to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the White House, and then of course one team,

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<v Speaker 1>one team one and that never happens. You never invite both.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like one h two to eighty five. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really good game. I watched that game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good game. And that was my first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever watching a woman's basketball game. And for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin Clark is a bad mother weather none time out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bad. She's not a bad girl. I only watched

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<v Speaker 1>it for her. I shoot, she just shoot from the pardlt.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they put the black verse the

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<v Speaker 1>white thing, but he's fired anyway. With Internet about that,

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet, I felt like the way it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>playing out the way it should have played out. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know LSU man shout out the LSU. Yeah yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they did. The ladies got down, um and Kaitlyn is

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<v Speaker 1>hard like she she should get down. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Caitlin actually calmed everything down. He did when when

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<v Speaker 1>she got an opportunity to um speak about it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>speak about it. And man, I think she was real

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<v Speaker 1>professional sportsmanship, right, I think she did. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she wanted to smoke though with what baby girl

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<v Speaker 1>facts facts the court, Yeah on the court by Kayla

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<v Speaker 1>got all the smoke. Listen. I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that both teams should have been invited, you know. Fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think LSU kind of looked at that as like

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<v Speaker 1>a slap in the face. And then and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the only the thing that I hate most about the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet is the Internet and the media makes everything so racial.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like everything has to be black and white. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's never gonna stop. Keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>because we saw it with Larry Bird and Magic Johnson UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just I don't I haven't seen a female

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<v Speaker 1>rivalry like that in a long time. I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>remember one that was good for TV for me. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the viral moment for female basketball, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like that, this is the moment I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all look back on and say, like this

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<v Speaker 1>was the turning for Remember what I'm saying, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, well, it's it's about time that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go on record to say I think it's about

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<v Speaker 1>time that the females start get pay Come on now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. They got they gotta feel them,

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<v Speaker 1>they gotta feel them seats up. Though they feel they

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<v Speaker 1>feel well, I think they was the attention that it

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<v Speaker 1>was felt. Yeah, like they feel the seats up right.

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<v Speaker 1>But not only that, I feel like it's more than

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<v Speaker 1>enough ways for them to figure out how to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how to put put people in the seats. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if they, you know, started to do more um

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<v Speaker 1>participation in advertising, you know what I'm saying, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>commercializing it more, um, just bringing more light to it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like girls be balling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think they need more media coverage. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the media to speak more about because this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the most I've ever seen a woman's basketball game

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<v Speaker 1>being being covered in the number showed like I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the whole game. I did too. Yeah, I've never even

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<v Speaker 1>watched a woman's basketball game. I watched the whole game

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm watching watching the NBA Finals. I'm like, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God, I was one time for fly J's

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<v Speaker 1>my little homie. Remember she was on she was on

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<v Speaker 1>the Rap Game, she was on the Rap JD. She

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<v Speaker 1>now plays for LG and she has a recording deal

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<v Speaker 1>with rock Nation. Wow, big shout out to her. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, right, all right, um, how'd your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>How'd your wife? No? Okay. Marcus Houston says he met

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<v Speaker 1>his wife when she was seventeen, but did not pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship until she was eighteen. He is twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>older than her. Thoughts, y'all didn't know that. I knew that,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead. He met her at seventeen and did

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<v Speaker 1>not pursue it that she was eighteen. He's twenty years old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he talked to or anything. He wait until she was legal. League,

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<v Speaker 1>come one, who is believing that you met a young

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<v Speaker 1>lady at seventeen and you said, Hey, I'm gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months and talk it. Take you on a day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this stuff, Lisa, stop resurfacing because this happened before,

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember when he married her and they would

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the age gap and how how young she

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<v Speaker 1>was and nothing happened. So like, why are we continuing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why are we continuingly talking about it if we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna say or do anything, you know you want

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<v Speaker 1>to people, go ahead, go ahead, I said, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know why people keep talking about it because r

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Jail and they was high. They look at

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<v Speaker 1>that time they were sweeping another rug under the rug

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<v Speaker 1>and then it came back out again and they for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Car Malone, My thing is, I wouldn't get would I

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<v Speaker 1>would want more attention on things. Does this matter? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not upset that this stuff keeps rehashing. We needed

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<v Speaker 1>to just to protect these women out here. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about this, Sean? I mean, I think what

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<v Speaker 1>do y'all y'all feel like? I mean, but do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like do you feel like the women are like

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<v Speaker 1>who Who's whose fault? Do you think it is just

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<v Speaker 1>like the whoever's older, it's their fault? Whoever is the

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<v Speaker 1>mature dog? She's seventeen when he had his eye on

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<v Speaker 1>her and thirty seven a thirty seven year old man

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<v Speaker 1>should not be a mutual friend too. So some people

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a little sketchy because some people we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Gail be and the uh they do? What

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<v Speaker 1>does what does she call it um grooming? Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 1>people do the grooming thing, so that's kind of raises

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<v Speaker 1>a brow too. She turns eighteen, he turns thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Still a twenty year gap. Ain't no twenty eight year

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<v Speaker 1>olds or thirty two year olds or not see this

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<v Speaker 1>as a red flag. Well, I think the mutual friend

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<v Speaker 1>was was the probably one of them that was helping

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<v Speaker 1>doing the grooming. You know what I'm saying, like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I believe with people adults, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the age thing, the age the age yub don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>think eighteen is not an adults But he said seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he probably really met her at fifteen, nineteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you have so much more things going on

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<v Speaker 1>around that those times frame mentally. But well they married now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, says man. Code wives and baby mamas are

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<v Speaker 1>off limits. What are your thoughts? And do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>like baby mamas is off limits amongst friends meaning you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my baby mom, you shouldn't be here. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying it as like an industry thing, like people

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<v Speaker 1>you know like you Yeah, yeah, I mean I me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would take that same it that same route.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, respectfully, I don't think that I would if

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<v Speaker 1>I know somebody, Uh, the baby Mama's probably a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of off limits. Yeah, it was a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what if the opportunity presents itself. Is she single?

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<v Speaker 1>That is true? I don't know if if it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm cool with, like that, I'm cool with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely, I'm probably not gonna now. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>I think the baby mama is off limits, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you know the kid, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like like, if you ain't got no relationship with the kid,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like I don't think the baby Oh lord

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<v Speaker 1>who Future does definitely does no bout. I mean, ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got no choice but to know each other. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know they don't have no choice. But I'm saying, prior

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<v Speaker 1>to him dating his baby mama, did he know that

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<v Speaker 1>was Oh, I don't know. I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Future and Batau ran around the same. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that was in the same But is

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<v Speaker 1>that not like he said, Like we were just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an industry standard, like bro code. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>man ain't nobody ain't nobody baby mama off limits. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think yes, because the dollar reason why I say

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<v Speaker 1>wives are off limits because people people saying the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think people will kill you over their

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<v Speaker 1>baby mama too. Yeah, but they why like Brome is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely yeah, wife is off well, ex wife too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's what he means is because it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they got my ex wife because if his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't care who's to me? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. So they not respectfully to the mother the

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<v Speaker 1>mothers of my kids, right, respectfully, I'm not tripping. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to get you in trouble personally Ferrari Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right to my exes. I'm not tripping on any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying. No, X happier relation is

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<v Speaker 1>off women, your baby mama limits, your ex wife not

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<v Speaker 1>off limits to my circle. Now you and my grooms

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<v Speaker 1>man still to my friends. Yeah, but industry people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>friends because I'm let's stop, let's stop not friends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but Garrett was was wrote somebody record and y'all not friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And the man baby Mama tried to give you that

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<v Speaker 1>thing you're gonna hear is off limits to me because

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<v Speaker 1>that's my That's that's what I mean, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely take a personal I would take a personal if

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<v Speaker 1>like my friend, like if fou out, r if if

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<v Speaker 1>if foul out was to hit my my baby one

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<v Speaker 1>be like wheezy, what's happening? Like But yeah, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, oh my god, oh yeah, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's it's no man dreams, it's you know what

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about? Okay, Yeah, because I was ahead, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like on the court, on the court and on the

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<v Speaker 1>field better than now, I'm taking his head off. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not he can't fuck with me. Okay, but can

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<v Speaker 1>we go? Can we go there? Yeah? All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to you in the dream, you guys is

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<v Speaker 1>like the first unofficial versus the first viral. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>were the first viral moment in the pandemic ye, which

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<v Speaker 1>turned into versus and all this stuff like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the viral moment came from Sean being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tipsy or drunk or whatever you want. I actually, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I don't do nothing to roll, but but

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<v Speaker 1>now you know, I had went to the dentist. I

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<v Speaker 1>was at the dentist that day and I had two

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<v Speaker 1>root canals. So I was actually when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I got the call from Swiss, I was with

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<v Speaker 1>my man Bobby, and I was out of it in

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<v Speaker 1>his truck, you know what I'm saying. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>got the call, it was like, Yo, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if I'm gonna really be able to do this Swiss,

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<v Speaker 1>and Swiss like, yo, I need you right, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was it was like the same night he

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<v Speaker 1>called you when you got online. It was yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like an hour ye, like an hour away. Was

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<v Speaker 1>this like the verses or was it just like something

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<v Speaker 1>like well, it was like what was so crazy? When

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really understand I was actually holding my I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually holding my phone the entire time, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like it was set up. It was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was the versus versus was you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey man, we're gonna have it a little battle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a little conversation. And this was like he

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<v Speaker 1>had told me like a week before. Should I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>about it? You know what I mean? And I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>when he when he called me and reminded me that day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I am I am lit, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? I was he was late, but who

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<v Speaker 1>wants up with me? No? I was, oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I still yeah, I mean why when it got real,

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<v Speaker 1>it got real serious. And you know what really turned

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<v Speaker 1>it up was Swizzy put me on the cables and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, bro, you ain't feeling this, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta show you this commercial this So he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>the commercial and you know, because we both did like

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<v Speaker 1>little like little commercial to for the for the event,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, he was just talking about, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the culture and you're not the culture, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what gas? Like, who is gassing you to

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<v Speaker 1>think that you? What are you talking about? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking like? So it just it just went from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in my natural I'm already on ten to

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<v Speaker 1>come to you know, being on the field, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of like men men men's dream

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<v Speaker 1>have always had this um competitive nature. Yeah, we've always

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<v Speaker 1>been competitives. You know. He always wanted to occupy that house.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Can can you go down

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<v Speaker 1>the list of your number one because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>know them Ushers? Yeah you wrote ushers. Yeah, Yer's goodies,

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<v Speaker 1>Sera's goodiesh Beyonce's check up on it, Fergie's London Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do give me body too? Yep, give me body?

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<v Speaker 1>He did upgrade body. Yep, you did upgrade, you upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>you diva. Uh that's the shy soldiers lose my breath.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got Beyonce records, but he got records too.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't got these, but he got the newest ones. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't got the bombs like these. Man, listen. So so

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's go, let's go, let's go, let's put let's

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<v Speaker 1>put his against even the latest album alone grand So

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna tell me, so let's just keep it gangster.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna tell me which one of them records on

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<v Speaker 1>they're harder than ring the alarm Renaissance. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>blog we s my shit that that's classic forever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about records that you just got to perform.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a ring on it, Okay, classic forever. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>put up one of mine up, I put check up

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<v Speaker 1>on against that. Nah. It was nine weeks number one,

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<v Speaker 1>So what you say, number one? What's happening? Dream? You

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<v Speaker 1>gonna to come on here? Dream? It was cool, he Dream,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me do it more real quick, Hey, Dream,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta have you on The Baller Show. Sean Garrets

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<v Speaker 1>on here talking smack. I'm talking and I'm talking, So

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<v Speaker 1>we need you to come back on here. We might

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<v Speaker 1>need to do an episode both of y'all, but that

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<v Speaker 1>would be I got more I got more hot one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred than ones and him about far period. Hey, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let him come on here into enough crying.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're doing? What is we doing? We'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back with more of The Baller Alert Show. Sean Garrett,

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from? I'm from Atlanta from um and

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<v Speaker 1>you grew you grew here? Know. I moved to Europe

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<v Speaker 1>when I was fired, okay, um? And how what made

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<v Speaker 1>you get into music? Like? Was music something that that

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<v Speaker 1>was already in you? Like? How did you? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's hard to become a number one hit writer.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know I was an artist and saw my

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<v Speaker 1>first record deal when I was fourteen. Um, I came

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<v Speaker 1>back to the States with who where do you? Who'd

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<v Speaker 1>you signed with Aerial BMG so in Europe and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually came back to the States to sign a new

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<v Speaker 1>deal here in America, um My deal fell through. I

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<v Speaker 1>was signing with Warner Um Warner that I worked for,

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<v Speaker 1>yep um and so um and so then man, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom came. My mom got sick and I and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>losing my mom to cancer. And so I moved back

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<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta, and you know, I started shopping um my

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<v Speaker 1>demo for a new artist deal. Uh. And so people

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yo, you were by Sean Garrett. Yeah. People

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yo, you really read some great songs, like

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind or would you mind writing songs for

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<v Speaker 1>other people? And I was like, I don't really do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who asked you that? Just generally people were hearing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like a lot of the songs that

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<v Speaker 1>I was that I wrote for myself, they were all different.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always had this perspective of, like, none of my records.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really wanted none of my records to sound

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<v Speaker 1>the same. So I could do a body of work

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<v Speaker 1>they would all go together, but they would they would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be different. Like, you know, like it made sense

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<v Speaker 1>for me to do a year right on an album

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<v Speaker 1>like Confessions, because my perspective would be, let me do

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<v Speaker 1>something on this album that's going to be different, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a standout outside of what everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, right, And so I never really even thought

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<v Speaker 1>writing songs, writing and producing songs for other people with

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<v Speaker 1>something that I really wanted to do. I never even

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<v Speaker 1>something I never even thought that I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually was like totally against it until I

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<v Speaker 1>lost my mom. And you know, it was really like

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of a wake up call of just like

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<v Speaker 1>realizing that, you know, life is short and she should

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<v Speaker 1>always say, like, you know, you should put all your

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<v Speaker 1>eggs in basket, in one basket. So I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>doing a wishing deal with Hitco. I mean lad publishing company.

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<v Speaker 1>UM original Hitco, the original one, Yeah, the original one. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And right before then, I started getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>UM offers from different publishing companies. So I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>they really want to pay me this much money to write?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a hit record for them to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to you like that or No. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like in our community, like in Atlanta, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's like, you know, you had you had Hitco,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you had Sony, you got all these different

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<v Speaker 1>publishing companies. That's right in our area, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So heard your stuff was circulating around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of circulating around, and there was different people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually ended up doing my deal with hitco

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<v Speaker 1>Um God Rest his Soul with Shakier Stewart and Billy Callaway.

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So Billy Callaway was throwing these um Billy Callaway was

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<v Speaker 1>doing these bowling leagues, the Entertainment Bowling League, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment Bowling League. Everyone would be there, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was just all of the play is that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually in Atlanta, Man, you had plugged in. Chris hicks

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<v Speaker 1>Um was actually the president of Warner Chapel at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he also had Noontime. They also had Noontime,

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<v Speaker 1>so neon Time was a whole production company. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you got the dreams uh and Tricky they were all

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<v Speaker 1>at what's the name, what's the name of their uh

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<v Speaker 1>the click Uh damn, I forget the name of the click,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was a whole click um. So you had

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<v Speaker 1>like different section sectors of you know. B Cox was

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<v Speaker 1>signed too, if I'm not mistaken, he was signed the

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<v Speaker 1>Noontime John toy Austin was signed the Noontime UM. Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>Fabe was signed a Noontime UM so you know you

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<v Speaker 1>like that young click. I wasn't in the click just

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<v Speaker 1>like people just liked the songs, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I ended up doing my deal a HITCO

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<v Speaker 1>and and the crazy part was like, as an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>I was an outsiders. As a publisher, that was my publisher, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So as a producer and a songwriter, I was working there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was signed there, and so um, my first opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to get it get in the game was UM working

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<v Speaker 1>on Ushers. Yeah, I was working on was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get on Confessions, UM, and that was one that you

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to get on there. So I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get on there because it wasn't um, it wasn't easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like that you know, La had called me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like what you're gonna do? Kid? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Confessions album is about to close. So I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity as man, if I if I can get

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<v Speaker 1>on this album, this could be the start of something

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<v Speaker 1>and I can get I can get in and get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here, you know what I'm saying. Because my

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<v Speaker 1>whole perspective was like I wanted to get in and

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<v Speaker 1>get out. I really wanted to if I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this, I really wanted to do it. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it at the highest level. So UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up doing my UM doing my deal there UM

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<v Speaker 1>and so the quickest way I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to because at the time everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>real clickish, so I wasn't in the click to be

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<v Speaker 1>very honest, you know what I mean. J d Um

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to J d Um, Brian Michael Cox, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys, man, they were already implemented in

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<v Speaker 1>the systems right and so I'm an outsider UM at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Also, Pouvier was signed to Hitco um My

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>man Zeke who now uh is president for um Epic.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a songwriter, he worked, I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>signed to Hicco as well. Um Tab Tab was over

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<v Speaker 1>uh No, I think Tab was signed a Hitco too,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a part of Tricky and Dreams crew.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be honest, man, it was like they all

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<v Speaker 1>thought all my records were completely They were like, who's

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<v Speaker 1>this new guy? Man? His song was a whack like,

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<v Speaker 1>so people thought your songs weren't good or they was

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<v Speaker 1>just hating on you. I don't know what it was. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you know, I was an athlete. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, Bob Bob. I played football, basketball, baseball, like

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<v Speaker 1>I played every sport. So I'm I've always been real competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>always been like really in shape. So wrong business. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just with competing. It didn't matter, you know

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. My question to you is, how did

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<v Speaker 1>Usher get Yeah? This was your first big one? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>This was my second song. Actually ever, what was your

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<v Speaker 1>first hit? My first? But USh, Yeah it was my

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<v Speaker 1>first hit. My first song out was latifs I Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Want to Hurt You. That was my ship, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Um from my slow jam playlist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so like that's crazy so um And I actually really

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<v Speaker 1>loved that song, Like I thought that was I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that song was gonna go. Then he did a video

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<v Speaker 1>in the rain and yeah, yeah, I didn't very about

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<v Speaker 1>to do a video in the rain. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>the first but go ahead in the car? How did

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<v Speaker 1>they say? Yes? How did you get in the door? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had. Um. I got a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Antonio Junior as well La Ree's son. Okay, Tonio,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my boy, my guy Junior. Um, So you know

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<v Speaker 1>working over there. Um, that was my perspective. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we ship, the only way I'm gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get on this album is I'm gonna have to do

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<v Speaker 1>something really different and I'm gonna do something that's completely

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<v Speaker 1>far to the left, or they ain't gonna fuck with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I, um, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted some of those little John beats. I was like,

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna do one of Michael Jackson song.

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna create a Michael Jackson record on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a little John beat. And cast thought I was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It was just like, um,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.959
<v Speaker 1>they all they all thought that. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they was hating or what, but they all thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was talking as if my records were just like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it just wasn't good because they didn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like theirs, and I thought that shit was amazing. Or

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<v Speaker 1>they might didn't want you to get through the door. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do listen to The Confession's album, that's the

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>only song that sticks out, you know. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>like this style of like you know, I had like

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<v Speaker 1>a I have an unorthodox style of writing songs, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's like it's like I really

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<v Speaker 1>I really try to do things creatively to a point where, um,

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes you it it's so uh it makes it

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>makes the consumer love it from not just a melodic perspective,

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>but a style, right, And so I always create songs

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that have a style that that's sort of like that.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I knew it not only was a good song, but

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it made the artists look cool. It made him feel cool.

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if you think about like Chris Brown's running or

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>give Me That or Ain't No Way or wall to wall, Um,

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 1>those are all that's That's like, that's like Chris's signature.

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Female Like that's still Chris today. You know what I'm saying,

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 1>He's still that he uh says the words and and

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>does the runs and stuff. I know what you're saying.

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, there were you there with Usher with Chris Brown. Yeah,

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that's another thing that's a part of my gift is

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>like I'm really really good at producing vocals and creating

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>there with the artists. Yeah, like like we did like

0:24:57.640 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we did be there in like two and a half

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>weeks the whole album. You know what I'm saying on

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that album, um, ring the Alarm Upgrade, you M Get

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Me Body green Light with Pharrell, Um, that was a

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>dope album. Um, how was it working with her? Like,

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I know she likes to write a lot of her stuff.

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Did did you write it in she assisted or changed

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>words in the booth? Or how does that work with

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Beyonce at the time? M Beyonce's Beyonce's like, well, first

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of all, everybody knows she's really really private, right, and

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>so she don't really like people like knowing her business.

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But to be very honest, like, she's like one of

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the one of my favorite people to work with because

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>she's extremely smart. Right. Um, I don't know if y'all

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to listen to a knife wonder kind

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of explained the story on like when I was doing

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Recause like girl or is she the reason why the

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>first record I did for the Girls it was definitely

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>child is? Um? Is she the reason girl? T shirt?

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm Through with Love? Why are you going? You know?

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Soldier lose my breath? Bee was like at that time,

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>she was like she wanted the best right and so

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>she would just you know, she had these rooms set

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>up at Sony and she would give us all like

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>it was only like God rest his soul. But Lashan

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Daniels and Rottney that was one team. It was me

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was actually working with um My Man Swiss

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Swiss Beach, and I was also working with Pharrell, and

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>then I was working with I think I brought in

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other tracks as well. But a lot

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of times Bee let me do, she let me do

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>when I got around her, I was trying to give

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>her the craziest shit possible. So I would come with

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>ideas shit before she wouldn't come to the studio a

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of times, you know what I mean, Because I

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>was so excited to work with her, And that's why

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, pound for pound today, I'm

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>still one of the best songwriter producers for Beyonce period

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like she and I really work well together,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Like in reference to like communicating, like she'll just say hey,

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>She'll say, Sean, I'm feeling this way today, or I

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>want to do this, or i want to do that.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll take that perspective and go make a record and

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>come take it back and then like you just leave

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>her with it and then she does her thing or

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>are you in there vocal coaching her or anything like that,

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>or does she just she takes the demos and then

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the reference and then go do her thing. And that's time,

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>like I would do a demo, like anytimes I do records,

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll do the demo, you know what I'm saying. And

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>so then she'll, oh, I might just do the chorus

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and then finish the song up. You know what I'm saying.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>She might cut the chorus and see how she feels

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>about it. And a lot of times it was just

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>we was it just every song was just going crazy,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And it was like I

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>would make this, I would create the ship like right

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>there in front of her to the point where she

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>would love it, and she would cut you know what

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And it's just it was. And she was

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>then going in another room. So she so she like

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>five rooms going so I think at the time also

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there was um uh she was Solange was there, her cousin,

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>um Angie was there, or Bay. So these are production rooms,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>studio studio studios. They'll runt out of studio and they're

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>having different separate um separate, separate studio rooms. They would

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>have like a group of people working in one room,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>like maybe me a songwriter, producer, and and a tract producer.

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's the same. Yeah, it's the same thing. They've

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>been doing the same thing for years because most people

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know that there's other writers as well. Yeah, there

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>will be other people in the in the rooms and

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it'll be it. That's why it's so competitive, you know

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, and say this song sucks, We're about

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to go Sean Gear. Yeah, like a lot of times,

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's where some of the that's where some of

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the um I guess some of the um hate comes

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>from sometimes because at the end of the day, it's

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm in there dissing or or hating on somebody.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, shit, they're gonna go with the best

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>song her record, you know what I mean? Now, Yeah,

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it wasn't like like

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like anybody that know me and shit,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just I'm a real nigga, Like I'm like,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool, Like I don't I don't really got no

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>problems with nobody, you know what I'm saying, unless there's

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a problem, and then there's a problem. I have a

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>question recording and at the end of the day, before

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>we get off of the songwriter thing, it's about it's

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>about who gets the most on the record right on. Yeah,

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well it's it's really about the songs, you

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the part that's today. I feel like people

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>compromise and they end up having to pay for it later.

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like, you need the best fucking song to

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sell your product. But that's why she has so many

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>people around her so she can pick from the best.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>That's hard too, you know what I'm saying, because it's

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like you can have a lot of people in the room.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I never like to work. I never liked to

0:29:55.520 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>work like that because for me, it's like I'm more

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so paying attention to what whomever it is that's driving.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>If Beyonce's driving, I'm paying attention to what Beyonce. He's

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about her process. Yeah, I ain't got shit to

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>do with I'm not focused on anything else because anything

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>else is gonna take me off of what I came

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to do, you know what I'm saying, And I'm focused

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>on where she's where she's coming from and and and

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>being it's it's about you being smart enough to understand

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>how to take this ship to the next level. Understanding

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the job. Yeah, she's the job and you're gonna work

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>according to her process. So it's like the way they're

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>doing it now, it's crazy, like they be having like

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>six seven eight people writing on a song. That shit

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. And a lot of these songs that's coming

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>out of y'all can tell like the songs ain't really crazy.

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been music is not as good as because yeah,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>because it's all over the place. But to your point, though,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and I do miss how the old process were, where

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like a Jimmy Jammt Terry Lewis spending time with

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>their talent, a Janet Jackson getting to know her and

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>then create something for her, like a whole sound for her. Yeah,

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I feel like that's missing. How

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>important is it for the artist to have the right producer? Important?

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Like it's important. You got to think about it like this, right,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I look at the consumer, like I really respect

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the consumer. I like that's the end goal. It's almost

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like like Nike selling sneakers, Nike packages, their shoes properly.

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the box, it's the paper, it's the way the

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>shoe look, it's the color. It's everything, right, that's the

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>presentation is everything. The product is everything. So the fans

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, UM, that to me,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the reason why you know, people

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>will pay for your ticket when your music is incredible,

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the reason why Taylor Swift sells out the way

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>she does because her music, her fans already know she's

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>going to deliver an incredible project, right, And that consistency,

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a problem with us because when you're in assistant,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>what does consumer thing? Shit? Last time I went to

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>go buy this damn last time I went to the

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>grocery store over at the Walmart, the damn the meat

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>was spoiled. But why is that though? Why why does

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>why does um with the you know, with our side

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of the music business. Um, I look at like the

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>country singers and stuff like that, they always have the

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>same producers, like Corners Bro. It's like, you know, it's

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's that's it's us, you know what I mean?

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Like we always think we can get shit cheaper. We

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>always think we can you know, what I mean. Uh,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like Gibson was talking about, it's like

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you think you can, like you really think the people

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that really do this shit, they really are amazing at it.

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I really do this music shit. You know what

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And I'm very thorough about it. You know

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And I'm gonna do amazing songs no

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>matter what. I'm not just a songwriter. I'm a songwriter,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>producer and singer and artist and creative. Who needs to

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>call you back? Y'all know who need to call me back?

0:32:55.760 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>You know? Nah? Man? Look, man, think about to call

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you back then, y'all hear who need to call you back? Hey? Man,

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>y'all heard the new Glue? Man? You know what I mean? Like, Um, look,

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just excited still about doing amazing music. Man.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That new Usher song? Is that new Usher song is crazy?

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Is it? It's called Glue? You heard it? Yeah? I

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about now, But just for the audience, Yeah, okay,

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you're good. Questions in the comments, boy, but that song

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>is great? Um, how was it working with Usher for

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.959
<v Speaker 1>this for Glue? I mean it was really amazing actually,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>because um, one Usher is like one of the hardest

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>working UM artists. He gonna work his tail off, He's

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna he's gonna challenge yourself. I really wanted to challenge

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>him on his vocals. Yeah, because he he's back in

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that false subtle range is giving me Maxwell or something. Man.

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought. I thought, I was like, man, that sound

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like Prince. Yeah, Like I'm like, like, no, shout out

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to Prince Man, and like Prince is like unbelievable, Like

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it definitely is the inspiration of that spirit of him

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>um DeAngelo Um. I just wanted to help Usher. Well

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>one I got I got annoyed by the idea of

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>UM and what this is one thing I don't really

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>like about our community. Man, It's like we're always putting

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>each other down or we're never giving um our people

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>man the respect that we deserve. Like you know in

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the country, in the country sectors or the pop world,

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, they always got the same respect for their

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>for their for their artists, and they show it on stage.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Artists think the producers and songwriters that help they bringing

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>them on stage. And for some reason it's like I

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we feel like we can't thank somebody

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like you can't thank the person that really bust they

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>asked to help you shine. I always say the real

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the real stars of the songwriters and the producers. Yeah. Man,

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like I I but but don't get me wrong.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Back to Usher. Usher works his ass off, Beyonce works

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>her ass off, like so's Chris Brown works his ass off.

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>You know he's wanted. I love him, man, I love

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Chris too. Um. And it's like when it comes to

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 1>working with each other, it's we're all using our talent

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to get to get to one place, and that is

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the scoreboard, that is to win, right or number ones,

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And it's like it's a

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>combination of us helping each other, using our talents in

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>different ways. Right to be creative, because sometimes it's like

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what, um, you know, uh, the ideas like

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>when an artist does one cycle with an album, the

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>next cycle is a completely different cycle, right, but you

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>also still want to keep that level of uh, that

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>level of greatness. You still want to keep that shit

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>up there, you know what I'm saying. Speaking of that,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and you go, like you just said, from how the

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>old album was to like the newer sound summer Walker Project. Um,

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what was your thoughts on the performance of that and

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the reception of the second album versus the first The

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>first single was a little bit different, and that was

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>on purpose, right because if now, if you look at

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>we were trying to do, you see what scissors at now? Yeah,

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you see what's going on. Yeah, that's where I want

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to get to. People don't understand, you know what I'm saying,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we were trying to get Summer in that space

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of the world, right because she had already been you know,

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you got to keep involving, you know, the urban side.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So we need we needed to cross, right, because if

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't cross, then you stay in the space and

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it becomes to it a lot of times you started

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to climb, you hit that ceiling, hit right, and so

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that was just expertise of trying to get her to

0:36:54.760 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that level. But the problem is ready. Well I don't

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>know if fans are ready, but sometimes it's the way

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you play it right. It's like like everything works in

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>a law, Like the law of it is the star

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is the person that knows. That's why they a star.

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>The star is giving the world what the world what

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the star wants to give the world. Right, and so

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the world has to wait and deservingly and respectfully allowing

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the artists to roll out their project. Right. And so

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>when you got if you put yourself in a position

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>where you're allowing people to not even let you roll

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>your shit out properly, then it makes you nervous. Give

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>an example. Yeah, some some artists don't stand behind their music, right,

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they don't. If they they'll get nervous if they get

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>some sort of uh, if it seems like like a

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>bad comment, if it seems like people get bad comments

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.399
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. You got to keep in mind,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>this whole comment thing, this whole idea of likes and dislike,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>has just came about in the last five years, right,

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>So now we have allowed ourselves to lose our strength

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and being confident in our decisions of what we're putting

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>out there, right, And so now it's causing it's causing

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>artists to not necessarily have the strength that they have before,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's like they're hesitating. You're hesitating, you're worried about

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody you know, commenting on some shit that ain't got

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>shit to do it really what you're doing, right, And

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so the idea is just and nothing's perfect, man, nothing's easy. Um,

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it ain't always gonna be perfect, but you gotta, you know,

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta. That's the whole point of us having each other,

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>man and trying to trying to push forward, trying to

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>um elevate UM. And I love Summer and I had

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>an amazing time working with her, and she was in

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and to be very honest, man, but people don't realize

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that she was pregnant the entire damnity, the entire time

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of recording her album, all the way up until the

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>days she had her child. Oh wow, you know what

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So shout out to shout out to Summer.

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>It was a dope album too. I really like that album.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know in shouts the Summer man like Summers.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just uh I really, I really enjoyed

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>working with her, Like, well, you be on the next

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>project because I know she's dropping an EP soon. Well

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this EP she do this EP she's putting out. That's

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>her thing, like her relationship she got with her labels.

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Like when it comes to her albums, like everybody works

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on that, but but that's when it's her project, you know,

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>her um, when it's her ep that's that summer thing,

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So you don't have any

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>records on that. Nah. So she so she's writing on

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that and yeah, she summer got a pin like she

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>she writes on all the shit I'm saying, But this

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>particular thing, it's almost like her brain child, you know what.

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like personal for her. Yeah, it's a real

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 1>personal So you know, respectfully, man, I think it's also

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>important to let people get their shit out too. Yeah,

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and then when it's when it's time to get them

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>his they call you. Yeah. I mean I have a

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thanks bro, I have a niche, and my niche is

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>just trying to do number one records man, like you know,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's not, uh, my perspective is not necessarily

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes a hit record is not the most emotional record. Yeah,

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying it. You know, some records

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>are to build base, you understand, or stretch your your

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>market out. Like yeah, I don't. Yeah, you know what

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like you know, and and and and

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody doesn't really understand that, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>To the point, if you know, so, I can't beat

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>all things to everybody. And that's why I have to understand.

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, Okay, if an artist is like I've given

0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>so much of myself to the world. I've given myself

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to the industry. I've given myself to all these artists,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. What about yourself? Though? Uh?

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, have you reached the heights of success as

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>an art is that you want? Or have you done

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 1>that yet? Nah? I think I think that's the beautiful

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>thing about life, right. It's like, um, like I'm working

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on my album now and it's like, you know, I'm

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna tour like internationally and stuff like that. That's a

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>good thing about like working on your own shit. It's

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like you can go and you can tour and you

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>can do shows, you know what I'm saying, And you can. Um,

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>being an artist is completely different than being a hit maker,

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And I can't lie sometimes. Um,

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it so much. I enjoy giving of myself.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I really do. Like some people don't some people really

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have a person? Is that hard though? Like when you

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>got when you got a record that you're like, man,

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a hit record, and then you got us

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>or somebody like, hey, man, come on, let me get

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that record. Yeah, I mean for me, man, Nah, you've

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>never done that before, Like I want to save it. Yeah,

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I've I've known that record at get this one away.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>This is mine. You know what's crazy, Like Mario's breakup

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was like that. My breakup was my record was huh yeah, yeah,

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>so that wasn't your record, now that was my It

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>was my record, but then I ended up because you're

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 1>on the hook, but album, I'm on the whole record. Yeah,

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>so I thought it was your record. But so what

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>happened was at the time Mario had Aum Mario's manager. Um,

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like Mario was in a place man where he really

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>needed to hit something, and so it was like, you know,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>his manager was like, man, Sean, whatever, what do I

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta do to get I said, dam, I had already

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>told you, bro, like I ain't played the ship for

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you for somebody else. Um, but anyway, um, you know

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>again man, that's just me giving them myself. I was like,

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll share this record with you. You know

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Um, that's dope, you know what I'm saying.

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So and that's the part sometimes that you know artists forget.

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, man, I I did this for my heart. Yeah,

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do that. You know what I'm saying,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't have to. I have to share this

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>with you, bro, like I purposely said, Yo, I'm gonna

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>share this with you. I put my own money. I

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:12.919
<v Speaker 1>spent my own money at radio, you know what I'm

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>saying to get it going. I remember it was on

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>radio everyone. Yeah, it was on radio crazy. The pds

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>was like a couple of ps, like I don't know

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>about this one, and I knew it was I knew

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy because I knew it was different. Speaking

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>of smash record, it definitely blew up at the verses.

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Did you see the verses? I know you did. Did

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I see the Marian versus Mario? I love a Marian,

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>but I knew Mario can eat with them vocals, but

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think honestly, I thought like with O versus. Yeah,

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people was on Mario side because when

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I seen the verses, I said, man O, Mario got

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the records. He about the smoke Mario. And then when

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I watched it, I was like, I love a Marian,

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm telling that Mario and you know what the

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>great single about Mario Yo. It was funny because it

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>was almost like I saw Mario setting him up, you

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, he was sting at the end

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of everyone. He wouldn't go acapella and just sing him

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>under the table, you know what. He went back to

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>his you know, the crazy shit. Mario went back to

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>his um. He went back to his first album and

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>um uh I love you. I would never yeah, like

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>he got some songs or that, or he got U

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or he got uh he got braid my hair or

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I love that song. He has some but he killed him.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>He killed him with the vocals though. That's why I

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>was like killed. I was like, but he was on

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>his b more ship too because when he got the

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>talking shit, Yeah, I was like, oh he had all

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the licenses. We didn't. I just felt like we didn't

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>expect that. I think a lot of I expected that

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.439
<v Speaker 1>from am Arion. I have to ask you a question.

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Though we've been talking, we've been talking about everything, guys,

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I Tavia BT asked you all these questions, you know,

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you. We'll be right back with

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>more of the baller alert y'all. Where the hell is

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the money at Let me explain where you're writing records

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>for people? How do you know or how do you

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>bank on getting paid? Where do you get paid? How

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>do you get paid? Because now you know, I'm you know,

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>your normal person. Thing you didn't did usher? Yeah, you're

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a millionaire overnight. Yes. No, I'm gonna say this because

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it gets political, right, so I'm gonna have to be

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>all shit, No, but I'm not gonna be political. But

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but the reason why I said it like that is

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>because I'm on this platform that's the music business, and

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so many different ways. It's almost like trying to

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>explain to somebody how this building. Uh so, dumb it down.

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>If you got a number one record, what does what

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 1>does the money look like? All of these different people

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 1>make money from the source, which is the song, right,

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and it becomes a situation of how that song is

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>going to be divvied up in reference to how it

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>makes money one, how it busts how do how do

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you bust the money down? From one song, two songs,

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>three songs, four songs, an album, a package? Right, And

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>so those those different um, those different components really matter.

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So when people try to tell you to break the

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.319
<v Speaker 1>ship down or to hurry up and tell you. There's

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>no hurry up way of telling you that, because because

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you'll come back later and be pissed that you miss something.

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 1>And that's what's wrong. That's the tough part about our

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 1>generation right now. It's like our generation don't communicate, We

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like to talk. And that's the worst thing you

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>can do because when you you get these were talking

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>about Manny talking too much. Yeah, because I know a

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of shit. You know what I'm saying, and I

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>know what to do, and I know what not to do,

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>so I know what to ask for and I know

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>what not to ask for. So when I come into

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a situation like number one, I'm a producer. I am

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a producer first period. So you produced to be No. See,

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 1>that's the misunderstanding producing producer does not make all the time.

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Producer puts the fu song together, create the song like

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 1>that's so instantly. I'm already if I write the song,

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I've already owned fit center to copyright. That's what did

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>he said? If I talk on a song is mine,

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll produced it. Yeah, I don't know, well I'm saying

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>if I'm talking a song it's mine to politics, you

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So I see what's what's green?

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Or one person is read to another, you know what

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Depending on your strength, your status, and your

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.479
<v Speaker 1>ability to hold your own, you know what I'm saying.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 1>So if I I was never I was never able

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to get like tossed around like that because I actually

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>did the songs. You know what I'm saying, Like, you're

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>not nobody, e't inna come and handle me like that

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like I did, Loving you no more for Diddy, loving you,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Um, and I love didd

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>He shout out to Diddy. Um. But everybody got their own,

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>like the way Diddy came in the game it as

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a producer, but he produces the way he produces because

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he had the leverage to produce the way he produces.

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Just to give a little more context and to break

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it down in black and white for our audience, for

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the song is one hundred percent, fifty percent

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 1>goes to the songwriter, correct, and then fifty goes to

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the producer. Right, But here's a yeah, and then they

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>did that up on their ends. If you got well,

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people breaking sometimes people yeah, Well, sometimes that's kind

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of the same thing. Fifth percent as the writer side.

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Other fifty is the track side or the music side.

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>The music side. Yeah, but to add to that, a

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 1>person might come and do some drums, and then another person.

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You might have another person that come and play keys,

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you might have another person that comes and

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh programs uh rhythm right, an arranger, you know

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.240
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like I arrange, our produce, I write.

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's different ways that it's broken down. Sometimes like

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>in uh uh in the country music they um they

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 1>break it down. On the pop side, they just break

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it down a third third, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't do it that way. We do it a

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>little different, right, and sometimes it hurts the person who's

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.439
<v Speaker 1>actually doing most of the work, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So it depends. That's it depends like on who you're

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>working with and how you want to work with them, right,

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>And so if you don't know those different things, a

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.479
<v Speaker 1>lot of times what was happening is that people would

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>come in and they would be working and they don't

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>talk discuss no business. And that's how you come in.

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 1>That's how you have all of these split disputes, and

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>so that's how people get sued for a record when

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>someone says, you know, this person, what does that mean?

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>When people you see all the time, when people say,

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>well this person stole my record or you know they

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>stole my beat, how does that happen? I give you

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a prime example. Right, So, so I got I'm not

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna mention on names, but this is some This is

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>the first my first lesson I learned in the music

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>business that was that really pissed me off, and I

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up probably losing I don't know. That person ended

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 1>up making over time from Yeah, probably like five million dollars. Right,

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So I had somebody to engineer my session, right, and

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that person was a songwriter. But that person didn't write

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a fucking lick on this song on Yeah. But because

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that person was a songwriter, and at the time, the

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>guys that the company wanted everyone to participate from the

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>company because it made the company look bigger, they ended

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>up convincing me because I was new, to give this

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>person four percent of Yeah, what I'm saying. And I

0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was fucking pissed later because I was like, y'all just

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>sucked me over. When you learn you know what I'm saying,

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you learn, and so that was all I needed to

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>ever learn, and that was the reason why. So sometimes

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>people tend to think like, oh, you know, well, this

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>person is like um, like I've always had. Sometimes I

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>get this stigma that I don't know why I got

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>this stigma. It was like, like I was telling y'all before,

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I don't do not to go do

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 1>my job. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes people hate

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>on you, but it's like, I don't know why y'all

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 1>hating this shit because I don't I've never had a

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.919
<v Speaker 1>confrontation with somebody or or wouldn't stole something from someone

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that took some I've worked by my damn self, or

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I collaborate with a track I might work with Ninth One,

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that I may work with Swiss Beasts, i might work

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.360
<v Speaker 1>with Champ. I've worked with so many different people to

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>help make so many different people money, you know what

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. In this business, that's why I get a

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:12.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of love, But at the same time, you're gonna

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>get hate because success just breathes that right. But to

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>simplify things, the reason why I've never been in no

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>issues like that because I always do the ship by myself. Yeah.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say that that's probably why

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't like a bunch of people in the studio

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>because when I try to collaborate, that's exactly right, bro.

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's like when you try to collaborate with people,

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the ship gets messy and messy. So it's a hit

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>kid Glow really happened though he knew about himself. Yeah, yeah,

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>he do everything by myself. The money is on a

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 1>number one record, a hot one hundred number one record.

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>That's why when you ever you hear me say I

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>got eighteen hot one hundred number ones. Anybody that knows

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what the hot one hundred chart at the chart? I

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be on what do you understand what that is?

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't know, you don't know. And a

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of these kids is doing music. A lot of

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.760
<v Speaker 1>these people that's managing people. It's managers that don't understand

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So on your new podcast that you

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>have coming soon, but you be discussing more in depth

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of what you mean. Yeah, I will, I will. That's

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>why you over here being political. Do you have a

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>name for the podcast yet? Yeah? Um no, but I

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>will I will be I will, I will be UM.

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I will be letting you guys know first what it is. Um, Yes,

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>for sure, And it's gonna be crazy. It's really gonna

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 1>be crazy. I really love y'all show too, to be honest,

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not being political. I want to I want

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to be clear. I'm not being political. I'm just being

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>correct and it and I said it is political, you

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying that the business is political. And

0:53:55.680 --> 0:54:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you get yourself and shit that you know, you know

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>how a lot of shit go viral when it shouldn't

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>go viral. It's like, damn, I was just walking down

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the street and some shit go viral. Well, today, you

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>just have to be extra clear about the context and

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:15.320
<v Speaker 1>how you're speaking like that because it's so many different

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>elements to the question. Right, It's not a it's not

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a one answer. It's not a one answer to that

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>question because it's a loaded ass question, right, And I

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 1>would love to be as informative as I can possibly be,

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.840
<v Speaker 1>But part of it has the change has to be

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 1>from this new generation of people who are managing people

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>who are artists, who are producers, who are songwriters. That's

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>why I'm gonna start doing these seminars. I'm definitely gonna

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>do some informative seminars and to to help being with you. Yeah,

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and also man like, yeah, we're gonna get down, like

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to get a to that. Um, So

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 1>how are you single? Have you do you have children? Yeah?

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't like to, Yeph, but I don't

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 1>really like to talk about that. I like to I like,

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I got two boys. I really don't. I try to

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>keep my personal life um as private as I can,

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>only because to protect my family, you know what I mean,

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to protect my to protect my kids, you know what

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, And to protect whoever I'm in a relationship with,

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But now important is that

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>for artists to protect their their family nowadays, especially with

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>social media being so crazy, the way you enter something

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is the way you're gonna end up exciting, you know

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And so, to be very honest, like

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the music business, if that's how you're making your money, um,

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta learn how to understand the details of it

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>because the details has a lot also to do with

0:55:55.560 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like shit, to be very honest, it has a lot

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to do with how you how you get dealt with agree.

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, people like leverages everything right,

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times the leverage is what causes

0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you to take a loss on a deal, right. So

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>so sometimes you know, it's like people don't like to

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.919
<v Speaker 1>communicating ship. So they might be like, man, this shit

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>take it too long, or or damn, why is it

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:28.879
<v Speaker 1>taking so long to get the song done? Or why

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is it taking so long to have this conversation. It's like,

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>because in the end, you're gonna want to know all

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the answers to this shit, and you're gonna want those answers.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Those answers that you're expecting to get, is the purpose

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.760
<v Speaker 1>of the conversation and the dialogue at the beginning, because

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>if you already know how this process works, you already

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>know that X plus O minus x equals whatever. You

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>already know that. So if you're not taking your time

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>to understand that from the beginning, you're gonna be pissed off.

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:04.600
<v Speaker 1>In the end, you're gonna be pissed and you're gonna

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 1>blame someone. And that's what we do in our community.

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:08.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, We're not taking the time

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to understand what this business is about, and it ain't trickery.

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 1>It ain't no bullshit. If you if you know what

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, you know what I'm saying, and if you

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>approach it from the right perspective, it ain't gonna be perfect.

0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, of course sometimes you're gonna you know,

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you are gonna get yourself in some shit. Um, But

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I can honestly say it comes with a lot. You

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying that it's come with a lot

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to hit songs. That's my goal. My

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>goal is to make hit records and it makes everybody money. Right,

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you're very pr train. That's that's what I realized. The

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>relationship question, right, you get a grade job. You did it, okay,

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna ask, what, wait, with all the

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>issues that, like you said, the music industry has and

0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>people not paying attention, would you want your kids to

0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>be a part of it? I ain't got no choice.

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>There are and it's it's like you know the all

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you can, Yeah, I mean the hardest part is like

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>like fighting with them, fighting with them to like my

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>oldest like fighting with him to um, because you love

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>him so much you want him to know the pitfalls first, like,

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you might feel like I got all this

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>shit happened to dad. I'm I'm lit like here, I'm

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my my numbers, is this my stylish this? I got

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>this shit figured out. I got this figured out. Yeah,

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you got that figured out. But you do not understand

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 1>how to move yet. And the way you move has

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 1>everything to do with where you end up being. And

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be harder for him because of who his

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>dad is. And that's something that I feel like a

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of kids as parents are in the industry, they

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>don't understand because they're like, Yo, my dad is this

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 1>person and they're not helping me, and it's like, WHOA,

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I think your dad is probably trying to protect you

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna be really hard, hard because of who

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.919
<v Speaker 1>your parents are. And if you get to a certain

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 1>level of success as a kid, they're gonna say, well,

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they only like that because it's dada. Sean geartt Well,

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>let me say this right, So when you bring this

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>on your kids, it comes on them like four or five,

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.600
<v Speaker 1>four or five, like four or five heavy ass waves

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 1>more than it comes on you. Because I was just myself.

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. No one knew who I was.

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But for your kids, that shit makes it because the

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 1>first generation was the first generation of the it's the same.

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's such a good point. When you first generation,

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you're really taking all the bullets, so you can help

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.480
<v Speaker 1>them not take the bullets because you're hoping that they

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>can take the bullets. But they ain't gonna be able

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to take the bullets. They can't take the bullets that

0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>we took, right because you know, it's almost like adrenaline,

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I ended

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>up making it out of that situation because I had

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 1>the adrenal just because of mine. Why can't they Is

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 1>it because you gave them a certain life that you

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't have it so where that they didn't have to

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:01.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like to be prepared like that to take the bullets. No,

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a life. It's what comes with it.

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not the life. It's like you know, it's like

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't want my son to have to deal

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>with Like it's it's really tricky. It's really tricky, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about hate, right, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you look by the time, by the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was um by the time I had like my ten,

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<v Speaker 1>I had ten number ones, Like they didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>My face looked like you know what I'm saying. There

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<v Speaker 1>was people like there was people telling me like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know, y'all man is Sean Garrett. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>be like word and I'll be talking to the person.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait so you said you said people would say

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<v Speaker 1>I managed Sean Garrett and as a selling point and

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<v Speaker 1>you're bro I was so high. I mean if you

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<v Speaker 1>really think about it, like like we ran the game man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like like I ran the game for like a good

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, ten to twelve years, like hands down, like

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<v Speaker 1>at least five number one one is a year. But

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<v Speaker 1>would they know who your son is? Hell? Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's heavy on your children one. Trying to explain shit

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<v Speaker 1>to your children, uh from your logical perspective, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like completely like night and day. And because me

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<v Speaker 1>and my son are so close in age. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you may think that you're talking to them on

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<v Speaker 1>their level, or you may think that you're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>them on the same level, but you're not talking to

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<v Speaker 1>them on the same level because they're emotional. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like my son, these kids are emotional as hell. So

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like the word no. They don't like they

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<v Speaker 1>want it now. They want to do easy to them

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<v Speaker 1>because because their dad's yeah, because you took the bullets,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ship exactly, it's like I could do this

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<v Speaker 1>shit already, got thirty number one. Yeah, and and the

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<v Speaker 1>ship that they got in a DNA like he got it,

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<v Speaker 1>like he got it. Yes, he got it. He got everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Everything, But but why won't

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<v Speaker 1>you just give it to him? Because some people believe no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving it to him. But it's just like you

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<v Speaker 1>still want to you want to be cautious with your children,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got kids, okay, so when you have me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh really worry enough for everybody, all right, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you know, But like kids, it's just like it changes you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when somebody have a child for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time and you talk to him like a couple, like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple months later or a year later, two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, damn, y'all, you're a change because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's that's a feeling that you can't like your

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<v Speaker 1>child is your everything, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like certain things you just don't play with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like I don't play with

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. You know what I'm saying, I don't play

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<v Speaker 1>about my kids. I don't play about I don't play

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<v Speaker 1>about life period. So a lot of times, just like

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<v Speaker 1>people used to be like damn, you know Sean Garbb,

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<v Speaker 1>be so serious, like hell yeah, shit, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>life and death. I always looked at it though that way, though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I always looked at it like when I go in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, Shit, this might be this record could change

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I really did look at it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did think that, yeah, it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>change the world. I really did think that. I really

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<v Speaker 1>did think that we were going to change the world

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Brown. Like I really thought that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really happened, you know what I'm saying. Working with Beyonce,

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<v Speaker 1>Like think about it now, Like if I never work

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<v Speaker 1>with Beyonce again in my life, wow, I'm like, it's happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like she's the biggest superstar

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. I would have never thought at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I knew she was Beyonce, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where you start struck when you first started working with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, like yeah, like I worked with Destity's Shout first,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, man, like it was I was nervous as hell,

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<v Speaker 1>Like is she the reason was the first song? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared. I was kind of like I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I knew that that was a comfort zone, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, like shout out the knife wonder

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<v Speaker 1>unfe wonder beast. Yeah. I don't know if y'all saw

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<v Speaker 1>what he just posted, but what do you say? It's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy like he he just explained like when we first met,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding he explained we first met and how serious I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I had my damn briefcase handcuffed in

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<v Speaker 1>my hand to my hand like I was just serious

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<v Speaker 1>about this ship, bro. And it was like I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time they by the time I had like

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<v Speaker 1>ten number ones, they didn't really know my face looked

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<v Speaker 1>like because I didn't really I didn't want them to.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't care about people knowing who I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was an artist too. I was an artist too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really care about that. What It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>it's two that's two different cakes. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I'm in when I'm in Superman hit hit

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<v Speaker 1>making mode, that's completely different than Superman as an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes I really enjoy it to the point over

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<v Speaker 1>here that I spent a lot of time doing it

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<v Speaker 1>where I just didn't get back to this artist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean I've had some hit songs Clark

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<v Speaker 1>Camp better than being Superman. Have you read where you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be it? Because like you said, you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to be the songwriter more and so you cater to

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<v Speaker 1>that more and being great and your artistry kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took a hit being in the fortune take a hit, though.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like if there's no way I could

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<v Speaker 1>have took a hit, because if I was just working

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<v Speaker 1>on me as an artist, that means I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been putting out maybe five songs a year versus twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>or having ten number ones in one year versus one.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was the math that I was using, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and it really never was. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Sean Garrett to Sean Garrett, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also like you gotta let your you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>let life come to you. Like sometimes you could drive

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<v Speaker 1>your car completely off the off the rail if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not patient with God and letting and allow

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<v Speaker 1>God to just like deal with you accordingly. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's like I can't I can't try

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<v Speaker 1>to be everything. I can't be all things to everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I just gotta pace myself in and allow myself to

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<v Speaker 1>let God bring it to you. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you gotta just like I get into my own girl,

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<v Speaker 1>because like sometimes I like to just be at home

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like to just be at home. What

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing, you got such a such I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just at I'm just chilling, Like I just like to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the world. I like to see what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to let God talk to me. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to just, like what you mean, like be at home

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<v Speaker 1>alone and yeah, She's like, weren't you here with me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes it's like I don't. I just like to chill,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Because that piece I need

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<v Speaker 1>that piece sometimes Gendi Nah. I mean nah, a person

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<v Speaker 1>can't give you what God gives you for me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. She gives me peace when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in that piece type of peace mine. She gives me that,

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<v Speaker 1>she gives me a certain type of piece, but only

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<v Speaker 1>God gives me that's spiritual piece that I need sometime

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. You know what I'm saying, Because you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>because if I'm not balanced, man, that I can't give you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't give I can't give nothing of myself. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you gotta step away, you know, have a mental break.

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<v Speaker 1>How long does that last though? Is it like months

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<v Speaker 1>or week or day? I mean, it ain't like no

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<v Speaker 1>three three months abatical and no ship like that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just, um, it's just sometimes you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>might you might need a day or two, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, just to just enjoy your enjoy your

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your peace and weigh things out right, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so much going on in the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much going on with um money, like the money,

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<v Speaker 1>like like our currency, like it's some real shit going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. With our currency, what's it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go dig you or you know you got Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and uh shoot, China, China and people in India. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Trying to create a whole other currency.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, for me, shit like that matters, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I'm just I'm just one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people sometimes und need a little piece, of course

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<v Speaker 1>we all do. And to like offer, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like to offer something, you got to build within.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like you gotta get your energy back sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you got to recharge said all the time. I'm that

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<v Speaker 1>was my whole point about. You know, keep going back

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<v Speaker 1>to you as an artist. You know, you have been

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<v Speaker 1>a servant to your industry for so long, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes it's okay to be selfish if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want, like as far as to be an

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<v Speaker 1>artist and to be as big as you want to be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely getting more to that place of being selfish

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<v Speaker 1>with myself myself from an artist's perspective, Like that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, right, But that's such an such a mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, that artist's mindset is like like

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<v Speaker 1>I think Future probably said it best, Like when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about Future the way he explains the way he

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<v Speaker 1>explains himself in his life, it really makes sense for

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<v Speaker 1>the artist's future, you know what I mean, Like every

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of it, would y'all agree? Guys? What does

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<v Speaker 1>he say? So it's like, you know when when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about future, like when future talks about he had

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<v Speaker 1>to be selfish at times, he had to be um

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<v Speaker 1>even though his relationships on like how serious he took

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<v Speaker 1>it or how it comes across. It could have came

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<v Speaker 1>across to some people as if you know some sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he don't care something, but he has to focus. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to. You have to really give yourself. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be selfish with yourself. The industry is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a number one girl in some type of capacity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it breaks you down like this shit. It really the

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<v Speaker 1>industry will break you all the way down because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, if you're already dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>shit like this's been on the internet along, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just too much. You got the answer

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<v Speaker 1>to people you don't know. You don't really you think

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<v Speaker 1>you're not answering to them, but you you definitely you

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<v Speaker 1>answering in some way because you see that shit it's

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<v Speaker 1>over on a certain to a certain extent. After seeing

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<v Speaker 1>shit happened or seeing shit said so many times, it

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<v Speaker 1>affects you. Yeah, like celebrities always talk about like how

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<v Speaker 1>comments don't affect them, and I'm like, yes, yes, yes

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<v Speaker 1>it dude, because if you got the time to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to a negative comment that a fan said, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got a thousand other comments, it's positive that you could

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<v Speaker 1>respond to. Then the comments. You know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>slaves are I mean celebrities are slaves. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet at this point you are, man, you were

1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:59.040
<v Speaker 1>slaves to success? Yeah, you slave to the success. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like man, you know you think to yourself, you like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn like what you were saying. It's like, Sean, do

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you ask me do I feel like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was slighted as an artist? I don't feel slighted.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be very honest, it's only twenty four hours

1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:22.720
<v Speaker 1>in a day. Sometimes it takes me twenty. But you

1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:27.080
<v Speaker 1>feel under appreciated. I do. Sometimes I ain't gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>like like if there's nothing, if there hasn't been, if

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<v Speaker 1>there has been anything, I feel like that's the part that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, that shit really fucks with you sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when people don't appreciate your hard work or

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<v Speaker 1>your or your your talent, your gift, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that ship at some point it does fuck

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<v Speaker 1>with you. But we appreciate you here on the Ball

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<v Speaker 1>Alert Show, and I appreciate you. Just learning more about you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, makes my appreciation grow even more. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>what you were saying about, you know, how you took

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<v Speaker 1>a different route on purpose and did things differently and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up, you know, that becoming your signature and you

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<v Speaker 1>becoming really really successful at it. On another level, that

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<v Speaker 1>hits from me too, because I don't know if you remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably don't, but um, I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>early twenty maybe eleven twelve. I did a DAT tape

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<v Speaker 1>and with Greg with Greg Street, and he hosted or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he wanted to make this whole big deal

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<v Speaker 1>about it, so we did it on his radio show

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually called in and you were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>giving me my props and all that stuff. Remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. I really do remember that. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was you. Yeah, all right, listen. Life is crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Life is one big circle, it is. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>they never appreciated Michael Jackson. They never appreciated Prince. People

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<v Speaker 1>don't appreciate any of the grades that we have in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us until it's too late. I really appreciate, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate these times. UM. You know, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up UM with a lot of you guys, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get a chance to, like I think, to

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<v Speaker 1>get to to get back to you what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working so much that I didn't really the

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<v Speaker 1>human side of me. I lost the human side of

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<v Speaker 1>me at some time, at some points because I couldn't, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't focus on being a human. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on being a machine. UM. And now I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>spending a little bit more time being a human and

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<v Speaker 1>having a time to be appreciated and having uh time

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<v Speaker 1>to actually process um, real conversations and love and appreciation

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<v Speaker 1>and UM. Because it's really tough sometimes, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like it's you know, I'm really, I'm really,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really passionate. You know what I'm saying. I'm very passionate.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, sometimes it has been times that, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't always like it when the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>perception of you is out there. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you can't be out there that long without

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<v Speaker 1>somebody having an issue or somebody not liking some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's like and you really

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<v Speaker 1>just been trying to just do your best and be

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<v Speaker 1>your best and give everything you got and that ship

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<v Speaker 1>gets to a point where it weighs on you, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But but at the end as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, you know, I'm very appreciative, um for being

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<v Speaker 1>out here and and the love I've I've I've received

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<v Speaker 1>over It's been a great life. Like it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>great it's been a great time. You gotta come back

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, brother. Yeah, yeah, we got up upset

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<v Speaker 1>shit man. UM, trying to finish up this this Usher album. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank y'all man, And UM, I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank y'all to everybody who's been really receptive to the

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<v Speaker 1>new single Glue for usure. UM working on my album

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, I want to do the international tour. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes I never I never really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I never even realized so many people appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>my my work as an artist. UM, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, a lot of interviews I've been having it's like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>where is your shit at? Like, and UM, I really

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I didn't really think people appreciated it that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that it's hard man. You know what I meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, they want to let me get so. I

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<v Speaker 1>got so used to people being selfish, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>was selfish. I will say this, you know last thing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to um let people know that you love them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Because it's it's shit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge. It's a challenge, uh every day and and um,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, you know, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that was That's so crazy. I didn't know that that

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<v Speaker 1>was you. And that was ten years or damn there

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<v Speaker 1>eight years ago, right and now look look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. That's the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate to about life. It's like seeing people grow

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to have conversations later about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. You might have never known where

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<v Speaker 1>a person was going through or what a person was

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<v Speaker 1>really trying to do with their life. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So well, thank you agatting Sean Garrett. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get out of here, if you gotta have a

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<v Speaker 1>pep talk, my name is mister Sean Garrett aka to

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<v Speaker 1>Pen the pep Talk for me today is just basically

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<v Speaker 1>definitely stand on your positivity, maintaining your mental stability, not

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<v Speaker 1>allowing anything or anybody to talk you out of your peace,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a very important part of life, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what your profession is. The other part, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the music business and you definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to be successful, learn as much as you possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>about every aspect of the business, and not just in

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<v Speaker 1>the music business, but that's in life. Yeah. Motivating, Motivating

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<v Speaker 1>yourself is motivating the world because if whatever you give it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're given that positive energy back out to the world,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to come back to you. Peace and love.

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