WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Alfred Wegener

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Alfred Wegener presented his ideas on continental drift

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<v Speaker 1>before the Geological Association in Frankfort on January sixth, nineteen twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>or one hundred and twelve years ago today, So our

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<v Speaker 1>episode on him and the controversy about his research is

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<v Speaker 1>Today's Saturday Classic. This originally came out December ninth, twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a

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<v Speaker 1>production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Frye. I really love

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<v Speaker 1>historical disputes, especially when it's some kind of scientific or

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<v Speaker 1>technical discovery or advancement, or some kind of medical something

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<v Speaker 1>that people were arguing over, Like when I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what to talk about next and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>on my list is really grabbing me at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes helped googling, like scientific disputes in history. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one that I've been hanging on to for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Alfred Wegener and the dispute over his theory

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<v Speaker 1>of continental drift. And I really expected this episode to

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<v Speaker 1>sound a lot like our previous one on Ignat Semmelweiss

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<v Speaker 1>and hand washing, except geology, because that's how the story

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<v Speaker 1>gets told a lot of the time, especially to a

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<v Speaker 1>general audience. It kind of gets summed up as Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener introduced his theory of continental drift and was basically

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<v Speaker 1>laughed out of the academy, and then after his tragic

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<v Speaker 1>and untimely death, he was proved to be more or

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<v Speaker 1>less right and for a discovery that was as important

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<v Speaker 1>to the field of geology as the discovery of DNA

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<v Speaker 1>is to biology. But that is really not how this

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<v Speaker 1>story goes at all. Alfred Wegener had a huge career

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<v Speaker 1>outside of his ideas around what we understand today as

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<v Speaker 1>plate tectonics. He did important and respected work that touched

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of different disciplines, and while there were

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<v Speaker 1>definitely people who were very critical and even hostile when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to what he called continental drift, he did

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<v Speaker 1>have his supporters, or at least people who were willing

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<v Speaker 1>to entertain the idea that he could potentially be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Wegener was born Alfred Lothar Wegener on November first,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty in Berlin, Germany. His parents were Richard and

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<v Speaker 1>Anna Vigener, and they had five children, Three of whom

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<v Speaker 1>survived infancy, Alfred was the youngest. His older brother and

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<v Speaker 1>sister who survived were named Kurt and Tony. The men

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<v Speaker 1>in the Wagner family typically went into the clergy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was also true for Alfred's father. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>theologian and a classicist, and a pastor and an orphanage director.

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<v Speaker 1>He also taught at the local gymnasium, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>against the rules for Kurt and Alfred to attend the

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<v Speaker 1>same school where he was working because he their father,

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<v Speaker 1>so they attended a different school and both wound up

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing an education in science rather than following that family

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<v Speaker 1>tradition into the church. Kurt studied geophysics and Alfred studied

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<v Speaker 1>at universities in Heidelberg, Innsbruck, and Berlin before getting a

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<v Speaker 1>doctorate in astronomy in nineteen oh five. Even before finishing

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<v Speaker 1>that doctorate, Wegener's interests went outside of what you might

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<v Speaker 1>think of when we say astronomy. He had studied Max

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<v Speaker 1>Planck's work on thermochemistry and thermodynamics, and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people he studied under for his doctorate were using planetary

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<v Speaker 1>astronomy as a way to study the Earth rather than

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on other planetary objects. He was also interested in

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<v Speaker 1>weather and meteorology, and after finishing his degree, he started

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<v Speaker 1>working at the German Aeronautical Observatory in Lindenberg. His brother

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<v Speaker 1>worked there as well, and they used kites and balloons

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<v Speaker 1>to study the Earth's atmosphere and atmospheric phenomena. At one

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<v Speaker 1>point during this work, the Vegener brothers spent fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>hours aloft in a balloon, which set a world record.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred Wegener was also part of the team that confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>the existence of the stratosphere. Wasn't a team he was running,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was involved in it. Waganer had been interested

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<v Speaker 1>in Greenland since he was young, and in nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 1>six he got the opportunity to go there as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Danish Denmark expedition, which intended to map Greenland's

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<v Speaker 1>northeast coast. Wegener was the expedition's physicist and meteorologist, and

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<v Speaker 1>his research involved more work with kites and balloons to

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<v Speaker 1>collect atmospheric data. He also got a lot of practical

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<v Speaker 1>experience in polar exploration. This expedition made its way through

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<v Speaker 1>extremely inhospitable territory, so Wegener learned things like Arctic survival skills,

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<v Speaker 1>and how to handle a team of sled dogs. On

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<v Speaker 1>July tenth of nineteen oh seven, while they were on

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<v Speaker 1>Cape Bismarck, Wegener and the team observed several water spouts.

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<v Speaker 1>They took a lot of pictures and documented what they saw,

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<v Speaker 1>and this experience may have inspired Wegener's interest in tornadoes

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<v Speaker 1>and water spouts, which will come up again later in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Wegener kept journals during this expedition, documenting his

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<v Speaker 1>experiments and their results, as well as the ordinary work

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<v Speaker 1>that was associated with it, like setting up the equipment

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping it maintained and repaired, and he also wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about his own challenges as a member of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>He had no experience in polar environments before this, and

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<v Speaker 1>his knowledge of Danish was limited. Unlike many of the

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<v Speaker 1>other scientists involved, he was also very early in his

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<v Speaker 1>career and he hadn't really established a name for himself yet.

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<v Speaker 1>This expedition achieved its objectives of mapping the northeast coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Greenland, but it was also tragic. Several of its

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<v Speaker 1>primary members, including leader Ludwigmilius Erickson, died after being stranded

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<v Speaker 1>when the sea ice broke up around them. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>before it was even over, Wegener was talking about where

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<v Speaker 1>he might go in the future, even considering an expedition

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<v Speaker 1>to Antarctica as a future project for himself. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh eight, after he returned from Greenland, Wegener moved to Marburg,

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<v Speaker 1>where he started working at the Physical Institute in Marburg.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen oh nine. He also lectured on meteorology and

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<v Speaker 1>astronomy at the university there, and Wegener became particularly interested

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<v Speaker 1>in atmospheric discontinuities, which are sudden, sharp changes in temperature

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<v Speaker 1>or pressure. For example, there are discontinuity services around the

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries of weather fronts and at the borders of atmospheric layers.

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener wrote prolifically over the next three years, publishing more

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<v Speaker 1>than forty scientific papers and then editing the ones on

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<v Speaker 1>the subject into a book called Thermodynamics of the Atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a widely respected and referenced text on atmospheric

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<v Speaker 1>thermodynamics for years, until it was ultimately replaced by a

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<v Speaker 1>later book on the subject that Wegener also wrote. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ten, one of Wegener's colleagues brought an atlas into

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<v Speaker 1>their office that was Richard Andres Algemini handatlas. This was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first atlases in Germany that included both

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<v Speaker 1>the coastlines of South America and Africa and the basymmetry data,

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<v Speaker 1>or information about the ocean's depths, that had been gathered

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<v Speaker 1>by the expedition aboard the HMS Challenger in the late

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century. So Wegener noticed something in this combination of

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<v Speaker 1>data that intrigued him. He noticed that the eastern coast

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<v Speaker 1>of South America looked like it would fit exactly against

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<v Speaker 1>the western coast of Africa. And this wasn't just at

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<v Speaker 1>the coastline at sea level. It was also part of

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<v Speaker 1>the underwater topography off of the visible coast. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to Elsa Coppin, daughter of climatologist Vladimir Coppin.

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Coppin had advised Wegener in advance of the Denmark expedition,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alfred and Oas had started corresponding. Veganer wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't the east coast of South America fit exactly against

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<v Speaker 1>the west coast of Africa as if they had once

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<v Speaker 1>been joined? This is an idea I'll have to pursue.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't pursue it right away, though it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of slipped his mind until about a year

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<v Speaker 1>later when he read a newly published paper on paleogeography

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<v Speaker 1>that documented fossils that had been found on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the Atlantic. That combined with Wegener's earlier study of

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<v Speaker 1>that atlas to put him on the path of formulating

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<v Speaker 1>a theory of continental drift. And we will get to

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<v Speaker 1>that after a sponsor break. Alfred Wegener was not at

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<v Speaker 1>all the first person to notice that the eastern coast

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<v Speaker 1>of South America and the western coast of Africa looked

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<v Speaker 1>like they could fit together like puzzle pieces. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an observation that children make the first time

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<v Speaker 1>they experience a globe or an atlis that shows all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And people had been spotting that similarity starting

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as there were maps showing both of those coasts.

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<v Speaker 1>In fifteen ninety six, Dutch map maker Abraham Ortellius wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that the Americas looked like they had been quote torn

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<v Speaker 1>away from Europe and Africa by earthquakes and floods. Francis

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon commented on it in his Nova Organum or True

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<v Speaker 1>Suggestions for the Interpretation of Nature in sixteen twenty in

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<v Speaker 1>a passage on similarities found in the natural world. He wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>quote similar instances are not to be neglected in the

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<v Speaker 1>greater portions of the world's confirmation, such as Africa and

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<v Speaker 1>the Peruvian continent, which reaches to the Straits of Magellan,

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<v Speaker 1>both of which possess a similar isthmus and similar capes,

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<v Speaker 1>a circumstance not to be attributed to mere accident. By

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century, naturalists that also started to document animals, plants,

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<v Speaker 1>and physical features that seemed to exist on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of oceans in a way that seemed impossible or at

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<v Speaker 1>least really improvable, given that the ocean was there to

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<v Speaker 1>separate them. There were rock formations on one side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean that seemed to pick up again on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. Mesosauris fossils were found in both Brazil and

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa, and there are freshwater trilobite fossils from the

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<v Speaker 1>genus Para doxides that were found in both North America

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<v Speaker 1>and Europe. Naturalists found living animals too, like lemurs which

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<v Speaker 1>live in Southeast Africa, the island of Madagascar, and Southeast Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though there's a lot of water separating all of those.

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<v Speaker 1>There were also coal beds on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic and seemed to be a part of the same system.

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<v Speaker 1>And physical evidence of glaciers that had once existed in

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the world now have tropical climates, and fossils

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<v Speaker 1>of tropical plants and areas that are now polar. The

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<v Speaker 1>list went on and on and on. So people started

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with all kinds of possible explanations

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<v Speaker 1>for how all of this stuff came to be. So

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<v Speaker 1>for the animal fossils and the living animals, maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>swam really was one, but kind of briefly that was

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<v Speaker 1>easy to discount. It seemed incredibly unlikely that the animals

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<v Speaker 1>in question could have swum that far, or maybe, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, clung to a floating log all the way

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<v Speaker 1>across the ocean. Maybe they swam. Explanation also didn't account

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<v Speaker 1>for things like rock formations and glaciers that seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>have existed in what seemed like the wrong place. Another

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<v Speaker 1>popular idea was that at one time there had been

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<v Speaker 1>land bridges connecting the continents, but that those had ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>sunk into the ocean. This tied into another prevalent idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the Earth had once been molten and was contracting

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<v Speaker 1>as it cooled and solidified. It was a little like

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of a plum as it dries into a prune,

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<v Speaker 1>which could explain the existence of both oceans and mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>That land bridge idea still had some problems, though, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't explain the rock formations that seemed to stop at

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<v Speaker 1>one coast and then pick up again on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ocean, unless maybe those formations had been

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<v Speaker 1>part of these land bridges that were now underwater. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there also wasn't a clear answer to what could

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<v Speaker 1>have caused the land bridges to sink, if they had

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<v Speaker 1>ever existed. In eighteen fifty eight, Antonio Snyder Pellegrini argued

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe Africa and South America had been one continent

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<v Speaker 1>at some point point in the past. He suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>the continents had been forced apart in the flood that

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<v Speaker 1>is described in the biblical Book of Genesis. Then a

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<v Speaker 1>few decades later, when radioactivity was discovered in eighteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>that raised more questions about this general idea that the

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<v Speaker 1>earth was molten and was just contracting as it cooled.

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<v Speaker 1>How could that be happening if there were radioactive materials

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<v Speaker 1>within the Earth that were giving off heat. On December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth, nineteen oh eight, American geologist Frank B. Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>gave a presentation to the Geological Society of America in

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<v Speaker 1>which he suggested that the continents were moving and had

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<v Speaker 1>been pulled apart by lunar gravity. He thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>collisions of the continents had pushed mountains into being, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the continence movement had also left deep tears in

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<v Speaker 1>the oceans. He published a paper in nineteen ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>other papers followed. It is definitely possible that Wegener read

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor's nineteen ten paper or one of the ones that followed,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a while the theory of continental drift was

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<v Speaker 1>actually called the Tailor Veganer hypothesis. In nineteen thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>though Taylor said that his name should be dropped off

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<v Speaker 1>from the descriptor because other than the basic idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the continents were moving, his ideas were really different from Veginer's.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what Veganer thought was going on. He thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the planet was made from concentric layers of material, which

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<v Speaker 1>were denser the further down you go, and the outermost layer,

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<v Speaker 1>with the continents on it was not contiguous. Oceans filled

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<v Speaker 1>in any gaps. The continent layer was made of seal

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<v Speaker 1>material that's largely silicon and aluminum, and the ocean floors

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<v Speaker 1>were sema that's silicon and magnesium. Seal was less dense

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<v Speaker 1>than sema, so the seal continents could float along the

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<v Speaker 1>sema ocean floor, kind of like icebergs float on the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Veginer thought that at some point, about two hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, all the continents had been connected into one

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<v Speaker 1>land mass that he called Pangaea, and then something had

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<v Speaker 1>broken them apart and allowed them to mindgrate around the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought this motion explained how mountains formed. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that the Earth was cooling and shrinking like a prune,

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<v Speaker 1>or that mountains were being pushed up by the force

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<v Speaker 1>of colliding continents. He thought they were formed by the

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<v Speaker 1>resistance that the continents experienced as they were sort of

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<v Speaker 1>pllowing through the ocean floor beneath them, sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>the way a tablecloth wrinkles if you try to push

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<v Speaker 1>it across the table. Veginer also thought that islands were

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<v Speaker 1>pieces that had broken off the continents as they were moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Veganer was not entirely sure what was providing the energy

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<v Speaker 1>needed for the continents to move. He proposed several possibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one that he focused on the most was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was some kind of energy related to irregularities

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<v Speaker 1>in the planet's rotation on its axis. Wagner detailed all

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<v Speaker 1>this in two papers published in nineteen eleven and nineteen twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>both titled The Origin of Continents. He cited evidence from

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<v Speaker 1>several different fields, including geology, paleontology, geophysics, and geotesy, and

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<v Speaker 1>on January sixth of nineteen twelve he spoke about these

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<v Speaker 1>ideas before the Geological Association in Frankfurt, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>presented on it at the Society for the Advancement of

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<v Speaker 1>Natural Science in Marburg, Germany a few days after that.

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<v Speaker 1>This was just dramatically different from how most scientists understood

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<v Speaker 1>the world at the time, and to be clear, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really not how we understand it today either. But it

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<v Speaker 1>also wasn't the only hypothesis out there. Other geologists had

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<v Speaker 1>also put forth various ideas about how the Earth's continents

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<v Speaker 1>might have been joined together at some point in the

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<v Speaker 1>distant past. Basically, it was clear that the whole model

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth as a molten object that was cooling

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<v Speaker 1>and contracting just wasn't correct, So a lot of scientists

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out what really was happening. Wegener

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<v Speaker 1>had some supporters, or at least people who thought he

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<v Speaker 1>might be onto something. These were especially people who had

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<v Speaker 1>personally seen or already knew about some of the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that he had cited, But he also had plenty of detractors.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of this was rooted in the details of his work.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, he said that Greenland was moving at about

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty feet or thirty six meters a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an error, and it was easily disproved. It

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't seem like slight irregularities in the Earth's rotation

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<v Speaker 1>could have provided nearly enough energy to move entire continents,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if those continents were plowing their way through a

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<v Speaker 1>less dense layer of the planet underneath them. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who disagreed with Wegener were particularly scathing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, doctor Rollin T. Chamberlain of the University of

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago said, quote Veganer's hypothesis in general is of the

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<v Speaker 1>footloose type, in that it takes considerable liberty with our

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<v Speaker 1>globe and is less bound by restrictions or tied down

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<v Speaker 1>by awkward, ugly facts than most of its rival theories.

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<v Speaker 1>So this wasn't really a case of one man, Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener against the whole of science. Enough people thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was at least partially correct that they became known as

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<v Speaker 1>the mobilists, while people who disagreed were called the anti

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<v Speaker 1>mobilist or the fixists. This was not the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener's work on his continental drift theory, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>keep working on lots of other stuff during his career,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>that after we pause for a sponsor break. Alfred Wegener

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<v Speaker 1>took another expedition to Greenland starting in nineteen twelve. This

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<v Speaker 1>was another treacherous expedition meant to cross and survey the

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<v Speaker 1>Greenland ice sheet from east to west, including spending the

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<v Speaker 1>entire winter out there on the ice sheet. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>a glacier that the team was on unexpectedly calved, and

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<v Speaker 1>Veganer wrote that they quote escaped death only by a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>Veginer and Elsa Coppin that we mentioned earlier had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>engaged before that expedition, and they married after he returned

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirteen. They would eventually have three daughters together.

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<v Speaker 1>Ess was a translator, translating scientific works, including some by

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. She also published a biography of Alfred, including

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<v Speaker 1>parts of his notes and journals after his death. Wegener's

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<v Speaker 1>work as a scientist and a researcher was interrupted by

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<v Speaker 1>World War One. He served in the German Army, first

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<v Speaker 1>as a lieutenant and then as a captain. He was

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<v Speaker 1>wounded twice, once on August twenty third, nineteen fourteen, in Belgium,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once again in France on October fourth of

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<v Speaker 1>that same year. That second injury was a lot worse.

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<v Speaker 1>He was shot in the neck and had to go

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<v Speaker 1>home to recover. He used that recovery time to write

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<v Speaker 1>his book, The Origin of Continents and Oceans, which expanded

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<v Speaker 1>on his earlier ideas around continental drift. Once Wegener was

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<v Speaker 1>sufficiently recovered, he returned to the army, this time serving

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<v Speaker 1>with the Field Weather Service as a meteorologist. This was

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<v Speaker 1>not a particularly taxing assignment. He was stationed on the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Front, which was a dangerous place to be, but

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<v Speaker 1>his daily duties mostly involved making some routine weather observations,

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<v Speaker 1>so he spent this time on study and research, writing

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<v Speaker 1>a paper called on the formation of Hoarfrost on horse corpses,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a book called Tornadoes and Waterspouts in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>This book pulled together information on two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight reported tornadoes that had struck in Europe between fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six and nineteen thirteen. Because he could only get

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<v Speaker 1>to one library to do his research because he was

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<v Speaker 1>literally stationed at the Western Front during a war, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the tornadoes in question were in Western Europe, reasonably

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<v Speaker 1>near where he was stationed. This was the first Pan

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<v Speaker 1>European book on tornado climatology, and it was really thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>His intent was not to speculate on the causes of

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<v Speaker 1>tornadoes and waterspouts, which was not settled at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>It was instead to pull together a wealth of data

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<v Speaker 1>on how large the tornadoes were and when and where

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<v Speaker 1>they struck and how they moved, along with other details

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<v Speaker 1>like what they smelled and sounded like and any electrical

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<v Speaker 1>phenomena associated with them. On April third of nineteen sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>while Vegener was at home in Marburg for Easter, a

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<v Speaker 1>meteorite struck outside the nearby town of Treesa. Two professors

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<v Speaker 1>from the University of Marbor got in touch with Wegener

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<v Speaker 1>about trying to figure out where this meteorite had fallen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Wegener cross referenced newspaper accounts and eyewitness statements try

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<v Speaker 1>to calculate its trajectory, eventually requesting some additional leave from

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<v Speaker 1>the army to try to finish up this work. When

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<v Speaker 1>the meteorite's remains were found on March fifth of nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>they were very close to the spot that he had predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Later in World War One, Wegener was transferred to the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Front and then back to the Western Front. He

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<v Speaker 1>kept working on his book on tornadoes, which came out

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventeen. Once the war was over, Weginar had

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<v Speaker 1>trouble finding work at a university, and this seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have been at least as much about economic conditions as

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<v Speaker 1>it was about his controversial theories about how the earth worked.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Elsa eventually moved in with her father, and

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred went to work at the German Marine Weather Observatory,

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<v Speaker 1>in a position that his father in law had previously held.

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<v Speaker 1>Begener held his position for five years, and he did

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<v Speaker 1>have teaching privileges at the university of Hamburg. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, Wegner published research on the causes of lunar craters.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, there were four primary hypotheses about what

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<v Speaker 1>had caused the craters on the lunar surface. That they

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<v Speaker 1>were the remnants of some kind of bubbles that had collapsed,

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<v Speaker 1>That they had been caused by tidal forces, that they

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<v Speaker 1>were volcanoes, or that they were the aftermath of meteorite impacts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener used cement powder to simulate both the lunar surface

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<v Speaker 1>and the meteorites, basically throwing little bits of cement powder

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<v Speaker 1>at a layer of cement powder with a teaspoon. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he would carefully missed the surface of the simulated moon

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<v Speaker 1>to set the powder. Once that was done, he would

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<v Speaker 1>measure and document the craters that had been formed. In

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<v Speaker 1>the pamphlet that he published on this subject, Wegener outlined

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<v Speaker 1>various arguments against the other three hypotheses before detailing how

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<v Speaker 1>these simulations supported the idea that meteorite impacts had caused

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<v Speaker 1>the creators on the moon. I love this so much,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly so do I. It's Alfred Wegener's crafty time that

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<v Speaker 1>is very scientifically grounded. I love it it's simultaneously very

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<v Speaker 1>charming and really cool. It's ingenius. In nineteen twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Wegener published another edition of his book on the Origins

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<v Speaker 1>of Continents, and this one was translated into several languages.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still a controversial work, but it was not

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<v Speaker 1>unanimously dismissed. Two years later, in nineteen twenty four, Vegener

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<v Speaker 1>and his father in law published a book called Climates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Geological Past. That same year, Begener became a

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<v Speaker 1>professor at the University of Grutz, where he was the

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<v Speaker 1>chair of the departments of Meteorology and Geophysics. He also

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<v Speaker 1>published another expanded edition of his earlier work on continental drift,

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<v Speaker 1>this one also called The Origin of Continents and Oceans.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen twenty six, theories on continental drift were well

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<v Speaker 1>known on both sides of the Atlantic. In that year,

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<v Speaker 1>the American Association of Petroleum Geologists held a symposium in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City to discuss them. Wegener was not there,

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<v Speaker 1>and overall the symposium was very critical of him. When

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote the next edition of his book on Continents

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<v Speaker 1>and Oceans, he tried to address at least some of

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<v Speaker 1>their criticisms. In nineteen twenty eight, a tornado touched down

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<v Speaker 1>near Gratz, and that rekindled Wegener's interest in that subject.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Elsa walked the path that the tornado had followed.

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<v Speaker 1>They took statements from eyewitnesses, and Wegener agreed to work

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<v Speaker 1>with meteorologist Johannes Letzmann on a project to try to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the causes of tornadoes. The following year, Wegner published

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<v Speaker 1>the final edition of his book on the Origins of

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<v Speaker 1>Continents and Oceans, this one proposing six possible mechanisms for

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<v Speaker 1>what might cause continental drift. As that happened, Wegener was

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<v Speaker 1>planning another trip to Greenland. This time he planned a

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<v Speaker 1>set up a weather station on the ice sheet where

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<v Speaker 1>a team would overwinter for two years to systematically gather

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<v Speaker 1>data about the polar climate. Wagner was almost fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>he recruited several younger scientists for this expedition, hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure there would be a new generation of polar researchers.

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<v Speaker 1>This expedition really struggled from the start. The stock market

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<v Speaker 1>crash of nineteen twenty nine affected the global economy, and

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<v Speaker 1>their funding almost fell through When they got to Greenland

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<v Speaker 1>on April fifteenth of nineteen thirty, the harbor was impassibly

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<v Speaker 1>iced over, and it stayed that way for two months.

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<v Speaker 1>The expedition had nearly one hundred tons of supplies to unload,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was basically impossible for them to start doing

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<v Speaker 1>so until July. Then they faced unusually bad weather and

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<v Speaker 1>propeller sleds that did not work as they had hoped,

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<v Speaker 1>which kept them from being able to haul their equipment

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<v Speaker 1>very well. They had planned to set up a camp

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<v Speaker 1>called ice Mitta or mid Ice, part way across the continent,

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<v Speaker 1>but as winter approached they were woeful leave behind schedule. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 1>ice Mitta would have been totally set up and fully

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<v Speaker 1>supplied before the weather became impassable, and the teams at

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<v Speaker 1>the mid Ice station and on the coast would stay

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<v Speaker 1>where they were until spring. Instead, by September, the shelter

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<v Speaker 1>for the mid Ice station and most of their supplies

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<v Speaker 1>were still sitting at the harbor, but researchers Johannes Georgie

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<v Speaker 1>and Ernt Sorge were at the station. Wegener and some

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<v Speaker 1>of his colleagues were absolutely convinced that they if they

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<v Speaker 1>did not get more supplies out to Aimanta. The two

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<v Speaker 1>researchers there were not going to survive the winter. Wagener

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<v Speaker 1>led a relief expedition, which departed by sled on September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first. As they progressed across the ice sheet, though

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<v Speaker 1>nearly everybody with them turned back because it was just

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<v Speaker 1>too treacherous. Wegener, Rasmus Willemsen, who was innook, and meteorologist

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<v Speaker 1>Fritz Low were the only ones who got all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to Ice Mitta, and they arrived there on October thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time they got there, Low was from extreme

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<v Speaker 1>frostbite and his toes had to be amputated. They were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty surprised to find the Ismanta team in an ice

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<v Speaker 1>cave with enough supplies that they hoped they would make

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<v Speaker 1>it through the winter. They were actually doing some scientific

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<v Speaker 1>study from this improvised research station in the ice cave. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>they seemed to be doing okay with two people, but

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely did not have the supplies to sustain three

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<v Speaker 1>more for the whole winter. So Vegener and Willemson decided

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<v Speaker 1>to head back to the coast, leaving Low behind to recuperate.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two men left on November first, hoping that the

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<v Speaker 1>wind that they had been fighting on their way in

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<v Speaker 1>would help them on the way out, So the team

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<v Speaker 1>at the coast really didn't have a way of knowing

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<v Speaker 1>any of this, and the team at ISIMTDA didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a way of knowing what happened. After Vegener and Villainson

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<v Speaker 1>left the ice cave in April of nineteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>where there had been no word from the two men,

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<v Speaker 1>people started searching for them. Kurt Wegener came to Greenland

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<v Speaker 1>to take up his brother's spot at the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the expedition. Alfred Wegener's body was found on May twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty one, carefully laid out and stitched into sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>bag covers. The spot was marked with a cairn and

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of cross Skisveganer's cause of death is unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could have been heart failure or possibly carbon

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<v Speaker 1>monoxide poisoning from a camp stove. Whatever the cause, it

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<v Speaker 1>is clear that Rosmus Willemsen had survived Wegener and had

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<v Speaker 1>tried to give him as thoughtful a burial as was

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<v Speaker 1>possible on an ice sheet, But Villamsen was never seen

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<v Speaker 1>again and his body was never found. The team that

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<v Speaker 1>found Wegener's body after this search surrounded it with ice

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<v Speaker 1>blocks and put up a large iron cross. The German

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<v Speaker 1>government offered to mount an expedition to bring his body

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<v Speaker 1>back to Germany, but Vegener's wife, Elsa insisted that it

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<v Speaker 1>be left where it was. Apparently she found the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that someday, as the ice shifted and split, he might

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<v Speaker 1>wind up floating at sea in an iceberg. She thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was a somewhat romantic and suitable and for him.

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<v Speaker 1>After Wegener's death, some scientists continued to support his ideas

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<v Speaker 1>of continental drift. British geologist Arthur Holmes worked out a

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<v Speaker 1>model that explained how the continents moved through convection in

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's molten layers, but that was controversial as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot closer to how we understand it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Without its most vocal proponent, the idea of continental drift

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<v Speaker 1>mostly fell out of favor in most places, although it

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<v Speaker 1>does seem to have been accepted by the Nazi government

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<v Speaker 1>of Germany after Vegener's death, and it was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>used as evidence of German innovation and modernity in Nazi propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that the continents were once connected by now

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<v Speaker 1>sunken land bridges became a lot more mainstream. Then in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties and sixties, a lot of research started

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<v Speaker 1>backing up the basic idea of continental drift. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it was connected to magnetism. In molten material, magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>particles line up with the poles then stay in that

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<v Speaker 1>position once the material cools and solidifies. In the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>paleomagnetic research suggested that Europe and North America had once

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<v Speaker 1>been connected based on the way these magnetic materials were oriented.

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<v Speaker 1>Maps of the ocean floor that were created starting in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties made it clear that the seafloor is

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<v Speaker 1>not flat. There are mid ocean ridges that we now

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<v Speaker 1>know align with the edges of tectonic plates. Study of

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<v Speaker 1>these ridges made it clear that they were both younger

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<v Speaker 1>and thinner than other parts of the seafloor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties researchers discovered what looked like magnetic stripes on

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<v Speaker 1>either sides of these ridges, corresponding to the shifts in

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<v Speaker 1>the polarity of the Earth's magnetic field and that magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon that we talked about earlier. Also in the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>the worldwide Standardized Seismograph Network made it possible to spot

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<v Speaker 1>global patterns in when and where earthquakes occurred, which once

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<v Speaker 1>again were connected to the movement of tectonic plates. Together,

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<v Speaker 1>these and other discoveries made it clear that some Wegener's

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<v Speaker 1>ideas were right. The continents are on tectonic plates, and

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<v Speaker 1>these plates slowly move, but his ideas for how and

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<v Speaker 1>why they move weren't really close to the mark. The

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<v Speaker 1>accepted idea today is that the plates are pushed apart

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<v Speaker 1>at the mid ocean ridges and in subduction zones. One

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<v Speaker 1>plate slides under its neighbor, pushing material back down into

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's mantle. Most of the time this movement is

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<v Speaker 1>explained through convection in the molten mantle, but there is

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<v Speaker 1>still some debate on exactly how this works. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of convection, but then in terms of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how specifically is the convection making this do That's where

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<v Speaker 1>there's more debate still Today, there is a lunar crater

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<v Speaker 1>named for Alfred Wegener, as well as the Alfred Wegener

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<v Speaker 1>Institute for Polar and Marine Research, and various honors and

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<v Speaker 1>awards bear his name as well. There is a theoretical

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<v Speaker 1>explanation for ice crystal formation in clouds called the Bergeron

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<v Speaker 1>Fendysen Wegner process. Wegener's former home is also now Thevegner Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to read a lot more about this

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<v Speaker 1>dispute about continental drift and how the idea grew into

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<v Speaker 1>plate tectonics, there is a four volume set called The

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<v Speaker 1>Continental Drift Controversy. It's more than twenty two hundred pages long,

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<v Speaker 1>so to be clear, it was not part of the

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<v Speaker 1>research for this episode. I saw a lot of pages. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it exists. I wanted everyone to know in case you

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<v Speaker 1>really are so interested in finding out so so, so

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<v Speaker 1>much more detail. I don't know how many podcast episodes

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two hundred pages of a book be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the research. We'll just do a new podcast. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but us reading that book aloud. Sure it will get

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