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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's level,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Hey,

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Speaker 1: everybody knew he scrugs here with a special show today.

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Speaker 1: For those of you looking for Danny McCrae and Barry

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Speaker 1: Church Well, they were on other shows today. This means

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Speaker 1: I get to have some fun with two of my friends,

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Speaker 1: former Cowboy Everson Walls and in my fourth favorite tar

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Speaker 1: heel of all time in Carolina basketball history, Jesse Holly.

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Speaker 1: As long as I'm in the top five, it's all

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Speaker 1: I Caraboba, I'm a new top five. You're in the

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Speaker 1: top five. I got Jordan's number one. You know, dog

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Speaker 1: team makes I five there, so he's number one. James Worthy,

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Speaker 1: James Worthy's number two, a kid from my high school,

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Speaker 1: west Over High School with Famille, North Carolina. He's about

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Speaker 1: to sign. He's already committed to the guitar heels, so

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Speaker 1: he could be number three. You number four because you

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Speaker 1: also helped bring a national You helped bring a national championship.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, come on, you lissen me behind the guy

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Speaker 1: that hadn't even played yet he's he's just a recruit.

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Speaker 1: You know, I understand it. But my time, like Carolina

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Speaker 1: was a great time. I went as a two sport athlete.

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Speaker 1: I won a national championship. So I'll be number four

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Speaker 1: or this listen, I'll be number one and everyone else

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Speaker 1: is hard. So I'll take that. I'll take that. Now,

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Speaker 1: this kid's a bus, and this kid's a bus from

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Speaker 1: your high school. You gotta move up. I move up,

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Speaker 1: I move up. You know, this is one of those

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Speaker 1: things where where finally, finally, you know, here I am.

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Speaker 1: I'll turn fifty in December. You know, I started going

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Speaker 1: to west Over High School nineteen before. It took this

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Speaker 1: long for us to get for somebody to be good

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Speaker 1: enough to play Caroline of basketball. So this is a

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Speaker 1: huge deal in my world for me and Everson. I've

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Speaker 1: always wanted to ask you this question here. Were you

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Speaker 1: a part of that group that went into the ends

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Speaker 1: on the Texas Stadium and broke up that fun bunch

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Speaker 1: when they tried to do that little little thing and

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Speaker 1: Smurst tried to do that little thing here in the

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Speaker 1: ends on it, you guys broke it up. No, I

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Speaker 1: can't not lie. I was not a part of that,

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Speaker 1: and one of one of them, my teammates, Ron Fellows,

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Speaker 1: he was a little a little upset at me because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there and what I was letting him not.

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Speaker 1: I was, well, I was covering my man, so we

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Speaker 1: was somewhere else. So my man, he was, he had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the play. You were the one

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Speaker 1: that got scored on. So don't get upset with me

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Speaker 1: because you can't hold it down on your side. So

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Speaker 1: I can't just come run into the end zone. It's

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Speaker 1: already over with by now. If you don't want them

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Speaker 1: to score, if you don't want them to celebrate, then

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Speaker 1: don't let them score. That's what I had to tell

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Speaker 1: Ron Fellows. So no long answer. No. So so to

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Speaker 1: explain to some of our younger viewers out there, back

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Speaker 1: when Washington had won Super Bowl seventeen. The next year

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Speaker 1: they came back. They were the highest scoring offense in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, and they had a game every of course

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys and the old Texas Stadium, and whenever

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Speaker 1: they would score, the receivers groups they called the Smurs,

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Speaker 1: Dennis Thurmant. It was Dennis Thurman, Michael Downs and round

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Speaker 1: Oh what are you gonna say? Jesse? Ups are? No,

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Speaker 1: I was good good. He don't know nothing about this

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Speaker 1: old school stuff. Man. I'm I'm sitting up here with

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Speaker 1: you young guys. Man, I'm used to being with the

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Speaker 1: old dudes. We start off slow. You know, we have

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Speaker 1: a little tea on the side or something. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got your boy, Jesse. Jesse's probably guys energy drinke

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Speaker 1: right there. He's ready to go. So let's go. Maybe

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Speaker 1: let's go. Don't let me stop you guys from getting

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Speaker 1: man can keep up. Let's go. So how about the

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Speaker 1: apparently bringing a whole bunch of COVID with four more

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Speaker 1: players have COVID, including quarterback Ben roethlisbergerg It it all

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Speaker 1: started with tight Advance McDonald. So you know the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: so they're just kind of virtual meetings on their bye week.

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Speaker 1: Because playing the Steelers with all this COVID happening there

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Speaker 1: so a perfect truly a perfect time for the bye

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Speaker 1: week for the Cowboys. Ever, sing what did you make

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Speaker 1: kind of confused KNWI about the protocol. If he was

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Clipson Notre Damn game this weekend.

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Speaker 1: is always about the dollar. It's always about the dollar,

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Speaker 1: right right, Allison, when you get your buffalot. You know,

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Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, Rookie cornerback treybod Diggs broke a bone

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Speaker 1: is going to be a guy that you look at

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one and beyond, then I need him

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy heading into this so that we

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Speaker 1: can evaluate all these guys, put guys on the field

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Speaker 1: during OTAs in mini camps so that I can now

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Speaker 1: really start implementing things. Then having him have a setback

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Speaker 1: in late December in a meaningless game that we're not

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Speaker 1: even gonna win, to go to the playoffs or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. Now, if you told me you were seventy one,

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Speaker 1: ain't no or whatever and we had a realistic chance.

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Speaker 1: All let's how to get some of these guys back healthy.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the year, you're not playing

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Speaker 1: for anything. I'm not rushing this guy back. Get one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, take your time getting healthy, and I

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Speaker 1: want everybody rebbed up and ready to go for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one off season. To a few things, let

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Speaker 1: me let me say something. First of all, you are

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Speaker 1: so right, Jesse. I had Charlie Waters just always in

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Speaker 1: my ear, giving me confidence, giving me nicknames, just you know,

445
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Speaker 1: crazing me. And I'm like, man, this dude is really

446
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Speaker 1: on my job and I needed that, you know, at

447
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Speaker 1: that time, because like you said, things are coming at you.

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Speaker 1: Dennis Thurman, you know he was. He was my mentor.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy that kept us together, you know,

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Speaker 1: tell us what to expect and how to feel about

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Speaker 1: certain things, because even as a rookie, you don't know

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Speaker 1: how to feel about certain things. And you're right though,

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Speaker 1: in regards to everything coming at him. That's the last

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Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say in regards to Digs is that

455
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Speaker 1: when you start thinking and start getting intimidated, your brain moves,

456
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Speaker 1: but your feet stop moving, you know, when you start

457
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Speaker 1: thinking too much, when you have fear, when you have doubts.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem with a lot of defensive backs. When

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Speaker 1: that ball is in the air, we always say turn around,

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Speaker 1: turn around. Well, they're too busy thinking about the consequences

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Speaker 1: as opposing to having the heart to just turn around

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Speaker 1: and taking a chance of not being afraid to get

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Speaker 1: beat at that time. So you're right, the confusion, the fear,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, the doubt, it can

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Speaker 1: it can affect your play, and hopefully as he steps

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Speaker 1: back from this, as we just said, he can come

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Speaker 1: back a better player. This is why I love having

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Speaker 1: you guys here, former players, giving our viewers and listeners

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Speaker 1: and insight into really what goes on the field. That's

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Speaker 1: something I didn't know right there that you and Jesse

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Speaker 1: just brought up and said, Hey, having somebody who's been

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Speaker 1: there who can tell you basically, I'm not crazy, I'm

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Speaker 1: not as bad as I think I am. And look

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Speaker 1: out for this and look out for that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's stuff. That stuff matters. I mean, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing like they got toasted too, so they know where

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Speaker 1: you are. They know mentally where you are. We've all

478
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Speaker 1: been toasted. There are no virgins in the NFL, my brother,

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Speaker 1: all right. Speaking of the future, Garrett Gilbert, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Cowboy fans feel like has a future's a potential

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Speaker 1: backup with this team after his performantive performance against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: But Cowboys owner Hall of Famer Jerry Jones said today

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Speaker 1: on his radio show on wonder Fire three the Fan

484
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Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton is the starting quarterback when they get

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Speaker 1: back to action. So they got the bye week this week,

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Speaker 1: and then they go to Minnesota next to face the

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Speaker 1: Vikings up there. Jesse, your thoughts on Andy Dalton becoming

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback with Gilbert being his backup? Now, let

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Speaker 1: me say this first. I know that we work in

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Speaker 1: the media, and we love the sound bites and we

491
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Speaker 1: love the ability to write stories on certain things. But

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Speaker 1: this is one of those moments where I just wish,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're the only team in the league where

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Speaker 1: our owner and our owner's son have radio hits every

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Speaker 1: single week, two or three times a week. Because to me,

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Speaker 1: I think Jerry misspoke. I do. I truly think he

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Speaker 1: and I get it. He's the owner, can do what

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Speaker 1: he wants, say what he wants. I get it. But

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Speaker 1: I truly think he misspoke. There's no reason you have

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Speaker 1: to come out and say that today, on a Monday

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Speaker 1: or Tuesday. There's no reason. And I think sometimes just

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Speaker 1: because you have a mic does not mean you have

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Speaker 1: to say something into it. And I think Garrett Gilbert

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Speaker 1: has earned hisself the opportunity to at least and let

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Speaker 1: me compete again. Let me compete this week, you know,

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Speaker 1: and when we head to next week for an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go out there and play again. He is a

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Speaker 1: look the best that we've seen since Dak Prescott has

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Speaker 1: went down at the quarterback position. Now. I know that

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Speaker 1: we may not hear that name much. We hear Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton name more because of it's time in Cincinnati. But

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Speaker 1: but Garrett isn't a rookie. He's been around the league

513
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Speaker 1: and around football for a very long time. And you

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Speaker 1: saw the confidence in command that he had in the

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Speaker 1: game this past Sunday. I didn't like that. I just thought, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm like god lye and I know that you're paying

517
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you know, three million dollars and money matters,

518
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Speaker 1: and money counts. But if you're trying to put a

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Speaker 1: product on the field at this point in time of

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Speaker 1: the season, because no one believes you're going to truly

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Speaker 1: and honestly compete for a championship if you're he does

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Speaker 1: a realistic but Jesse, he believes that they can win

523
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Speaker 1: the nfcast and as long as they have that opportunity,

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Speaker 1: he believes Andy Dalton gives them the best opportunity to

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Speaker 1: do it. So I always said, when I used to

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Speaker 1: do that Jerry Jones radio show, I'm one to five

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Speaker 1: three the fan. You gotta get inside his head, in

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Speaker 1: his head he believes. He'll tell you he's the most

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Speaker 1: optimistic guy. He'll tell you that he lives in the

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Speaker 1: land of what is that word he used the other day,

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Speaker 1: um naivete that's it. So you can say, Jerry, he

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Speaker 1: has to and he has. That's where he signs a

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Speaker 1: lot of checks every single week to make sure that

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Speaker 1: those guys are competitive on the field. So he has

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Speaker 1: to live in that land. I don't have to live

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00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: in that land. Hell, he signs my checks too, so

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Speaker 1: I don't have to live in that land. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to live in that land. He does. I get it.

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Speaker 1: As someone who's a business owner, I get you gotta

540
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: be optimistic, you gotta be always positive for your product.

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Speaker 1: But I just I just think that particular time's timing.

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Speaker 1: You don't if that's what you truly believe, don't say

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Speaker 1: it today. You know, let the process play out because

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Speaker 1: you I just think when people are gonna start looking

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Speaker 1: around and saying, we saw what we had with Garrett Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: and we saw it, we have Andy Dalton. I probably

547
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Speaker 1: would watch more to see round two of Garrett Gilbert

548
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: than I want to see round two of Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I think Andy, Andy gave us a win though Jesse, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he came in as a reliever, right,

551
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: yes he did, but he but he gave us a win.

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Speaker 1: And I think, and I get it, Jesse where you're

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Speaker 1: coming from. I do. When you look at this NFC east, uh,

554
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: you see nothing but futility. But at the same time,

555
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Speaker 1: that's what's given Jerry pause to say, hey, we're not

556
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: out of this yet. No matter how much we suck,

557
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: we are still in this. But it is Andy a

558
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: better option? That's the question? Is Andy a better option?

559
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: I still would side with the track that we were on, Garrett,

560
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Gilbert was off the rails in regards to our plans.

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Speaker 1: Did very well. And like you said, this guy's almost

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Speaker 1: thirty years old. It might be thirty, so he's had

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Speaker 1: professional experience and he showed that in the ballgame. But

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Speaker 1: you're looking at if I'm gonna look at Andy Dalton

565
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Speaker 1: versus Gilbert Garrett, I'm sorry, I gotta go with Andy,

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Speaker 1: not just as an owner, but even if I'm a teammate,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Okay, Andy, we got sidetracked because you

568
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Speaker 1: got COVID. Let's continue this track that we're on and

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Speaker 1: see if we can do something with it, because we're

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Speaker 1: still in it. Only because the NFC East is so bad.

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Speaker 1: If this was any other division, Jesse, Andy's on the bench,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm resting uh digs even if he's ready

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Speaker 1: in December. I get all of that. But this is

574
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Speaker 1: such a unique situation to where the division winner might

575
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Speaker 1: have five wins. Bro five wins, we can get to

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Speaker 1: five wins, that is a question. You got, you got,

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Speaker 1: you got, you got seven more games. We got the Giants,

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: we got, we got Philly. Still we you know, it's

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Speaker 1: still like it's still the NFC East. So you have

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Speaker 1: to say not just yet. I'm you know, if it

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Speaker 1: was any other division, any other season, I'm with you, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: but I just can't give up right now, especially when

583
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: forget that, forget the game after uh when when after

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Speaker 1: the Giants game. He played well in the Giants game.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see him with a weaker preparation again,

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Speaker 1: with a better defense, with this new defense, and with

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Speaker 1: this special teams that seems to be waking up and saying, hey,

588
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: we're part of this team as well. We're that third

589
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: fast of the game, but we're no less important than

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Speaker 1: the other two fastt So you have that mentality right now,

591
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: go into the locker room, Jesse. That defense was fired up.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me add this quick little tibit. I

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Speaker 1: know we gotta go to break quick little tidbit. Does

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton have a short leash? No? No, No, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Okay no. If that's the case, everybody's on

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Speaker 1: the short lease? Yeah, I would have to do. Is

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Speaker 1: that you saying no, too knew it? Yes, I here's

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Speaker 1: my thing on on Andy Dalton and that we debated

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Speaker 1: this yesterday because Barry Church was also with Jesse saying

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Speaker 1: playing Garrett Gilbert until they're out of this. Andy Daltons

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the guy once they're out of this.

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Speaker 1: Then in December, you know, because I think that's what

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Speaker 1: it'll be decided for the Cowboys in December, then you'll

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Speaker 1: go ahead and go at Garrett Gilbert because by December,

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Speaker 1: then again, you know, when you're out of it, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and all the games. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what they'll do. But I think Andy Dalton as

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Speaker 1: long as they're in this, the Jones family wants to

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Speaker 1: see Andy Dalton out there, and Mike McCarthy has said

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Speaker 1: such as well. They want to have the best opportunity

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Speaker 1: to win. Andy's experience in the league they feel like

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Speaker 1: reporter joined by two former Dallas Cowboys got Jesse Holley

659
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: in here in Everson Walls. Jesse, you grew up in

660
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: that Tri state area? Were you a Yankees or a

661
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Mets fan? Yankees? Okay? This is perfect because one of

662
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones' best friends in the industry was the late

663
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: George Steinbrenners. And you know George Steinbrenner. While he didn't

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00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: have a radio show, he invited the media to come

665
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: talk to him all the time, and he was always

666
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: forever talking. And I read the book The Yankee Years

667
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: by Tom Verducci, and Joone talked about how he understood

668
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: what he got into and knowing that the boss was

669
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: gonna say one thing over here, but how he dealt

670
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: with his players in the clubhouse was a whole different thing.

671
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: And for me, Mike McCarthy, you signed up for this.

672
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Jones talks on Tuesdays at eight thirty one,

673
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: one oh five three to fan a, Sean and r J.

674
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: And he talks on Fridays at ten thirty. Okay, because

675
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I used to do that ten thirty Friday show with

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00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, and you know Stephen talks on Monday. All right,

677
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: this is what these guys do. They talk. So you

678
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: got three times a week where you're going to hear

679
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: from ownership in basketball, Mark Cuban before they changed the

680
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: rules and they used had the StairMaster back there in

681
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: the mask locker room where we could all go back

682
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: there as media members. We would all go to Mark

683
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: who'd be on that StairMaster at about six six oh five,

684
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: and we would all get our pregame interviews from the

685
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: owner of the Mavericks. This is good for us in

686
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the media, but I have no sympathy for any coach

687
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: who comes in here because you know what you signed

688
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: up for. Jerry Jones not only has a radio, he

689
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: used to have his own TV show was called Special Edition.

690
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean Jerry on TV man. Jimmy

691
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: Johnson survived it. He won two Super Bowls with it.

692
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. This is why you're

693
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: in the big top bill parcels. He dealt with it

694
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: in won games. I mean, Mike McCarthy, go, hey, win

695
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: some games. You're going to have to deal with it.

696
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: It was one time before you got to the Cowboys, Jesse.

697
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: I remember it was a player that we in the media,

698
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: we're asking Wade Phillips about and Way about signing and Way.

699
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: It was like, well, we don't know where we're gonna do.

700
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: We may sign and we may not. We're like, Jerry

701
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: already told you signed it, and Wade just kind of

702
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: went like this, Okay, wherever Jerry said, wherever Jerry said,

703
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: and that just is what it is. Nobody handled it

704
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: better than Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett knew what it was.

705
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: The Jones family talking comes with the meal and they

706
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: may say one thing and you're trying to keep something

707
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: under wraps and they may blow it out there. But

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00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: this is what you signed up for. So for Mike

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: McCarthy and you know, saying, hey, why do you have

710
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: to why do you have to go out and tell everybody?

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00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: Andy Daltons, this is what they do. This is what

712
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: they do. Okay, they want you to talk about the Cowboys.

713
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: They like the attention of it, and this is what

714
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: it is. And I'm okay with it because I'm selfish

715
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: and i want to know because the coaches don't give

716
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: me anything. You got Mike McCarthy acting like he's some

717
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: hockey coach. You don't want to tell nobody anything. You

718
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: got a leg injury. We have stories, you have stories

719
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: to writing, stories to tell, and you know what, I

720
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: want to truth. When I want the truth, I go

721
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: to Jerry. Okay. It's like it's like Will Smith said,

722
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: tell the truth. Okay, Jerry's gonna tell me the truth.

723
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: These coaches don't tell me anything. So that's why I

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00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: love doing the Jerry Jones So we want I want

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: the truth, and Jerry Jones don't give it to me. Stephen,

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00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: not too much, but you know I have I begged

727
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the different just a bit. Jerry's gonna tell you Jerry's truth,

728
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes Jerry's truth is not necessarily what's going on

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00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: inside the locker room. And you know, Jerry's on the team.

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Jerry owns the team. He owns them the most amazing

731
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: UH sports business in the world. But we all know

732
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: that before Jerry became famous and rich, Jerry seemed like

733
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: he was selling snake oil. You know, he would be

734
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Everything's out o this. Every every

735
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: potion is gonna make you better at sex, better at

736
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: at eating, better at everything. You know that's that's the way,

737
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of look at him. So he's

738
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: gonna put a cherry on top of everything. So listen

739
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: to Jerry. That may not necessarily mean that you're gonna

740
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: get the truth. You might just be more entertained than

741
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: you might get accuracy. Ever since, he wears two hats,

742
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: and I've always said this about Jerry, this has been

743
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic. He wears two hats, and I want

744
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a sports fan, you want the

745
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: owner of the team to be excited. You want him

746
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: to be optimistic and always looking at how things can

747
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: get better. But I want my general manager to be pessimistic.

748
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: I want my general manager to say the glass is

749
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: half empty, the water is dirty, and we probably need

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00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: to change everything. The issue becomes the general manager and

751
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: the owner or the same guy and that. But at

752
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: the same time, from a media standpoint, that has always

753
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: that has been a part of the fun of this.

754
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what's made the Cowboys so interesting

755
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: that their own NBC three times the maximum three times

756
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: every year. You just saw they were playing the game

757
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: of the national Game of the week with TVA. But

758
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: even when the Cowboys aren't good. People are still talking

759
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: about the cowboys. And this is what Jerry Jones has built.

760
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I learned by doing

761
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: that radio show with him, Everson, Jerry's always been in

762
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: business for himself. So you know, from selling insurance to

763
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: being a Shaky's Pizza franchise owner, Jerry's always been hustling.

764
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: Jerry's always been selling hope and he and that hasn't changed, man.

765
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: So that is what he's going to do. So when

766
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: he's talking about let's go Andy Dall's gotta be there.

767
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna be our guy. We can still win this division.

768
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: It's a slim chance. That's Jerry. Jerry got Marguerite is

769
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: to sell. Okay, got he got, He got sharts to sell.

770
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: He's trying to get you, Everson, to buy your grandkids.

771
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Always got fifteen dollars. He has fifteen dollars Hamburgers to sell. Yes,

772
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm not there. But the problem you have when you

773
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: have an owner that creates this this situation that, for

774
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, sometimes you have crap rolling

775
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: down hill and it's all sound rosy coming out of

776
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: Jerry's mouth, but by the time things get to be downhill,

777
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: it just turns into a bunch of crowd. And here's

778
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you don't have a product on

779
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: that field that's going to resemble anything close to your optimism,

780
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, whether you're looking at on

781
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: the field, as far as your team is concerned, it's

782
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: not anything positive. They're gonna come up with all types

783
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: of accidis to talk about just how bad your team is,

784
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: even if they didn't play as bad as they say

785
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: because of the optimism that was raining down on them.

786
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: We're all in our seats, We're ready for it. Here

787
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: it comes. Jerry said, it's gonna be true. I'm gonna

788
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: believe in the Cowboy majesty in the height. And then

789
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: you see what we see, say against the Cardinals, you

790
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: see what we saw against the Red Skin, I'm sorry,

791
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: against the Washington football team. And then all of a

792
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: sudden you have over the top criticism, which can really

793
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: affect everything that you're trying to build. Newie, So you

794
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: gotta think about that. Sometimes sometimes reality is the best

795
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: medicine for a team like the Cowboys. And I'm telling you,

796
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something how it affects the locker room

797
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: when you have a guy like, you know, the owner

798
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: and the general manager. And I saw this from my

799
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: own perspective when I was there done under the way

800
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett error. When there is a level of hierarchy,

801
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: and I mean the guys who are worth the money,

802
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: the big contract guys, the guys who are on have

803
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: the jerseys and the stores, and they have the plaquers

804
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: and they have the giant sized faces on the side

805
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: of the stadium. Those guys are handled by Jerry and

806
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: then it's all the rest of us that are handled

807
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: by Garrett or Wade or Mike McCarthy. And so then

808
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: it begins that it begins that fight of these guys knowing, man,

809
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: that's coach can't do nothing to me because I answer

810
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: to the guy upstairs. I don't mean I don't mean

811
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I mean the other guy upstairs. Yeah, Halo

812
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: lower down, but that other guy. And so now this

813
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: is when you tre talking about how does it affect

814
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: on the field, because you have guys who are on

815
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: the field who know that no matter what that coaches say,

816
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: that I'm tied in to the other guy, and that

817
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: guy will determine whether I'm here or not not this

818
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: guy who was calling the shots from the sideline. And

819
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: and that sometimes can affect a play on the field

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00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: because guys who probably shouldn't be on the field maybe

821
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: should have left time on the field. But because they

822
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: have the contract that they have, they're dealt with differently

823
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and by different people. I remember one time it was

824
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Felix Jones, and Felix Jones had like fumbled in a

825
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: couple of games, and Jason Garrett was like, you know

826
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: guys who fumbling games, you know that don't pay the consequences.

827
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: We might not start him in the game. He said this,

828
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: and then they caught Jerry five minutes later and said

829
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Philix Jones will be the starting running back for US

830
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: next week. So, as a player in the locker room,

831
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there looking like, well, who do I believe?

832
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Do I believe the guy who said Philip Jones is

833
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: gonna sit coming out of the game. I'm gonna guy.

834
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I know who to believe, I know who to believe.

835
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: But but you see how that you see how that

836
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: can be a sticky situation for guys in the locker room.

837
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking around and saying, well, I heard that report

838
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and I heard that report. Now let's see what's going

839
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: to happen this week in practice. And then you see

840
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Philix Jones starting the next game, you go, oh, I

841
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: know who I know who really called the shots here

842
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: and there. So that's something of dynama that can sometimes

843
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: can mess up a locker room because you know the

844
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: difference between who says who, who does what. Jesse, Here's

845
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: here's two things I'll respond to you on that. Number one,

846
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: I never ever ever felt bad for Jason Garrett when

847
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: those situations happened. Because Jason Garrett knew what he signed

848
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: up for. He could have taken a job as a

849
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: head coach in the Atlanta Falcons would an owner like

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Speaker 1: Arthur Blank who to let him do what he wanted

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Speaker 1: to do. But he said no to that. He said

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Speaker 1: not to Steve A. Schotti, another owner who let him

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Speaker 1: do whatever he wanted to do, but he said no,

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Speaker 1: I'll stay here as the offensive coordinator. Make it as

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Speaker 1: much money as way. Phil, So you got what you

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Speaker 1: signed up for, and yes, you are right. There are

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Speaker 1: players that know Troitman didn't like Chan. Dailey didn't want

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Speaker 1: to run chainl again his offensive Guess who got got Chan?

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Speaker 1: Gaily so yes, you are right. This is how it

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Speaker 1: works here. But this is also how everybody who comes

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Speaker 1: in here you get. Mike McCarthy knows the way it

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Speaker 1: goes here. Okay, Jerry's been here thirty years now, thirty years.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. You can like it, you

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Speaker 1: can dislike it, but you know what it is. And

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Speaker 1: for me, I would rather know where I stand and

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Speaker 1: know the way things are for things that just to

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Speaker 1: not never know. You know, Jerry's gonna want what Jerry wants.

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Speaker 1: And Jerry loves us. He loves the style. He likes

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys to be big, he likes the Cowboys to

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Speaker 1: be in the news. This is how he's operating. How

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Speaker 1: the coach of teams KNEWI And that's what matters. Man.

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Speaker 1: You still gotta be able to coach the team. And

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Speaker 1: that might be good for the media and and and

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Speaker 1: just really interesting for all of us, But when you're

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Speaker 1: trying to put a winning product on the field, you

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Speaker 1: gotta let your coach coach, and you know, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: you gotta know when to be quiet and what not

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Speaker 1: to say. There are times when you have to be

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Speaker 1: in Unison as a as an organization in Unison, your

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Speaker 1: coach has to he's got enough problems. You gotta deal

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Speaker 1: with all these guys in the locker room. Now, he

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Speaker 1: has to deal with this, deal with the media, these

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Speaker 1: confusing things here. We just talked about it. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get I'm not gonna give him

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Speaker 1: the former president. I'm not gonna give him that. He's

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Speaker 1: much better than that. But it's just a it's a

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Speaker 1: chaotic situation when you have different information coming from the

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Speaker 1: same organization. So as a player like Jesse was saying,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, who's calling the plays, who's calling the shots?

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Speaker 1: And we know who's calling the shots in one way,

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Speaker 1: but we gotta have somebody on this field, on this

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Speaker 1: sideline that I can look to other than the player

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Speaker 1: who knows what's going on. And I'll say this in

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Speaker 1: closing for this topic. If I'm a player and I

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Speaker 1: really like what I saw in and Garrett Gilbert in

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Speaker 1: that game, and I feel like, you know what I fellas,

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Speaker 1: we get we get Garret Gilbert again, let's let's just

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Speaker 1: try to put this together. And then you hear, oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't get Garret Gilbert next week. Like that affects

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Speaker 1: me as a player because I may have really liked

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Speaker 1: what this quarterback was doing. If I'm a receiver, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: this looks much better than what I had with Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: And then now I got to realize we back to

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton again. That could bring down my spirit in

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Speaker 1: the way that I prepare and mentally, physically emotional. It's like,

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Speaker 1: start start a quarterback controversy like we did back in

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Speaker 1: the eighties. Man, that's all you gotta do. That's all

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. Just go to the paper like we did.

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Speaker 1: Just start the quarterback controversy. That's all you got. Garrett Gilbert,

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Speaker 1: the Gary hogeboom of the Cowboys. All right, ay, fellas,

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Speaker 1: this was fun. We didn't even get to the other topics.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the coaching topic tomorrow. Here. Everson Walls

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Speaker 1: and Jesse Holly will be with me tomorrow. So one

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Speaker 1: more day of having more former Cowboys bringing some insights. Fellas,

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Speaker 1: this was fun. I appreciated. Everybody. Make sure you tell

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Speaker 1: friends about this, about this show. It's normally the players

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Speaker 1: louds with with Barry Church and Danny mccraib, but they're

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Speaker 1: on some other shows. We're kind of mixing things up.

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Speaker 1: And having some fun. We'll talk to everybody tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: two thirty Central. All right, fellas, take care, everybody, go Cowboys.

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