WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Is Depth An Issue? 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:08.080 This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:16.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as by no 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:22.279 Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.120 Rob Phillips Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio as 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.920 we get ready to go into week eleven. Of course, 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:34.720 it's Tuesday at the Star. I'm Taylor, joined by Brian, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.000 Rob Mickey, and we're still getting over Sunday's loss or 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.919 are we officially over it? Move on? Move on? Got 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.639 you're right for the Eagles, you got no time. Got 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.559 an eight one football team coming in, Billy Mickey. Three 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.440 games in twelve days, right, Yeah that too? Yeah, I 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.600 figure that out. Yeah. Player's safety, we're all about it, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.080 giving everybody, We're all about that player's safety. We are, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.360 we are married. Are you over it? You know, I'm 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.880 trying to sound like you're not. I don't know. We 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.039 had an interesting discussion on cover four yesterday and it 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.039 was kind of one that made me think a little bit. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.880 We did. Our big talk was is Philly a must win? 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.200 And of course, you know you think division they have 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.400 to win all of that, But Manny's argument and He's 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.800 kind of argued this for a while now, was that 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.039 you let Philly kind of run away with the NFC 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.119 East title, and he argued that Atlanta was really more 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.600 of the must win because they could be a wild card. Yeah. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.200 I mean, so now that you didn't must win, it 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.959 does the next one a must win? Yeah, it seems 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.120 like it. I think they're all must win. I got 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.800 my thought on that. But go ahead, Rob, Well, they're not. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.840 They're not out of this division race. I mean they're 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.160 they're two and oh in their division, right, So that's 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.680 that's good shape. You play Philly twice in your three 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.520 games behind them, so you gotta hope for them to 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.279 slide a little bit and you gotta beat him twice. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.920 They're technically Eagles have now run away with this thing. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.520 Now obviously it's an uphill task and this team is 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.960 banged up right now. Philly's got some injuries too, But yeah, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.239 I mean the wild card part of it hurts Tay 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.320 because now you have head to head losses against two 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.160 teams that are right in the hunt with you, and 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.520 that's Atlanta in Green Bay. Yeah, so you know you've 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.280 got to look around the rest of their first place 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.959 schedule by the way, Mickey had just won row for two. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.280 But you know it doesn't matter. But if they had 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.440 the second or third place schedule and they had to 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.600 play the Saints, Minnesota would be another one they got 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.120 able to play. Had any arguments on that one, green 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.480 Bay or Minnesota, I would other play green Bay in 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.399 the Atlanta the Saints. You should have had a better 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.680 chance against Atlanta, right, should have you had your guys 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.240 on the field. It was interesting. I think either the 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.680 NFL or Bleachport one of those shared a graphic the 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.520 other day is that all of the teams that are 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.680 currently leading NFC divisions were either at the bottom two 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.280 or like the bottom of their division last season. Wow. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.959 It just shows you the parody in this league. And 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.400 I mean Atlanta is threatening. If they don't make the playoffs, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.359 that'd be two years in a row the NFC champion 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.680 doesn't make the playoffs the next year, which is just 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:12.880 kind of crazy when you think about Rosster turnover and 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.080 all that stuff. Can I go back to my must win? Yes, yes, please? 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.440 Because you only play sixteen of these they're all must win. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.840 I know it's not it's not aggressive last night, Yeah, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.400 it's not like Major League Baseball or NBA or hockey, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.359 where you have a number of games where you look 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.639 at the Dodgers. You know, the Dodgers went out through 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.800 and had a terrible month, had a great month when 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.200 they won twenty something in a row. But yeah, when 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.360 you when you only play sixteen games, they're all must 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.000 win and the problem is that it comes down to 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.840 usually one game, you know in the division, or one 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.840 game you know, you're trying to think, okay, can ten 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.560 wins get you in the playoffs? You know? I mean 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.680 the I think the NFC South and the NFC West 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.680 is making that very difficult for you to have to 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.400 think about that. Usually you can just kind of just 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.360 dance on in there and say, hey, we're we got 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.080 hot at the right time and let's go. But that's 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.400 why that Rams games, Ramley sticks with you. Yeah, Rams game, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.280 Rams Game, Atlanta game and Packer game all means something 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.200 to me right now? They really really do so four 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.560 out of their five losses, no, they're only have four losses. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.320 Three out of their four losses have all been NFC teams. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.800 They could have a great division record and not make 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.320 the playoffs. If you want to be yeah about it. Yeah, well, yeah, 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.600 you got the Eagles just run away with it right now. Yeah, 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.760 I mean in the league, see, they've got they A 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:28.760 lot of this has to do with when you play teams. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.800 You know they've got They've still got to go to Seattle. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.120 I mean, after Dallas, they got to believe they've got Chicago, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:39.000 then Seattle. Then they've got the Rams and then Giants 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.000 and US again, I think is how it kind of goes. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.039 But yeah, it's it's uh, you know, that's what you 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.680 do when you win the games you're supposed to win. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.320 I mean, they've done a great job. They've beaten Washington twice. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.800 The only loss they've had is to Kansas City. We 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.839 all kind of understand what Kansas City is, you know. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.719 So that their wins have been against the same teams 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.159 as Dallas have. They've beaten the Giants, they've beatn Arizona. Yeah, 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.720 they won. They won games that the Cowboys have won 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.680 as well. There's always team there's always a team that 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.680 rises up that you don't expect, and I think New 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.800 Orleans is probably the biggest one. The fact that they're 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.440 winning games is by the margin that they are and 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.080 they think that they've won seventh straight they have. But yeah, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.600 I mean you're scoreboard watching now, and and last weekend 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:24.240 hurt because Atlanta, Carolina, Detroit, Green Bay all win, yeah, 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.240 and you lose, and and a couple are head to 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.400 head that you've already lost too, So it's uh, they've 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.400 got an uphill battle, no doubt about it. There's only 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.640 two teams in the NFC that aren't in the first 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.320 place that have a better record than the Cowboys, the 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:45.880 Titans NC. It's Carolina, Carolina and Minnesota and Minnesota. No 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:53.440 Minnesota play Detroit or Seattle six and three, yeah, Settle, Yeah, yeah, 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.640 so they won I think Carolina and they went on 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.640 Thursday in Seattles. I mean, that's it. And one of 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.760 them's only one game better, So just take care of 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.840 your business. The Eagles still have Eagles, easy to say. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.800 Eagles still have Oakland as well. Yeah. It took play 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.160 check with me after Thanksgiving. That's what Bill always says. Right. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.159 Let me ask you this though, Mickey, these three games 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.120 we kind of talked about that you would like to 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.320 win two of the three, two of the three, So 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.240 that puts you in a position of seven and five, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.520 seven to five, yeah, and I think it's easy for 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.560 you to say must win brand because there are only 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.640 sixteen and maybe better phrasing of it would have been like, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.680 is this a game that if they lose, they'll be 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.640 out of it? You know what I'm saying. You got 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.680 a hard time winning the division when you're four games back. Yeah, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.920 you've already lost a Philly once. Yeah, I mean that 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.680 from a division standpoint, this year feels like a must 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.040 win game. You're gonna have a hard time anyway, since 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.080 no one's repeated since two thousand and what three? Yeah? 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.640 Is that right? That's true? Philadelphia? Yeah, Philadelphia one from 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.120 two thousand to through two thousand and three, right, right, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.560 that's crazy, that's parody. No one's known is repeated. No, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.080 it just shows you it's year to year, it really is. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.760 One year does not beget the next year. Well, and 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.240 that's why it's almost unfair that they do the first 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.720 place schedule thing. And I get it. It's easy to 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.800 schedule it out and if you had such a great 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.920 team the year before, you should be able to play 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.040 these same teams kind of in that New England. Yeah, 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.640 and so you know, but when Mickey's bringing up is 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.160 a good point. Now you have such drastic free agencies, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.960 such huge drafts. You're a different team. Yeah, but but 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.679 I think if you're a fan of other teams, it sells, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.960 it really gives you hope. Well, yeah, the league is yeah, yeah, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.960 the league is. Yeah. I don't, I don't and I 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.480 don't particularly have hope for my Dallas Mavericks. Right now, 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.480 you tip off the NBA season and there's two teams 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.720 that have a chance to win it, like legitimately maybe three, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.160 Like yeah, I mean, I guess hope springs eternal, and 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.480 I wonder, you know, Philadelphia could have the very same 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.800 thing happened to it that Dallas did last year. Yeah, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.000 you have a heck of a run. Then all of 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.760 a sudden, you get into divisional round the playoffs with 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.960 the home field, and you go up against a team 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.960 that is very capable of beating you, like the Saints 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.640 or Minnesota one of those people. Well, and it's funny 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.800 that you bring that up to because obviously a huge 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.960 storyline that everyone's going to be looking at this week 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.040 nationally is the Dak first Wentz talk. Yeah, you know 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.040 a lot of people are talking about, oh, dak first Wentz. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.080 The different places that they were taken at right, and 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.880 I was thinking about it, and it's almost like the 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.000 Philadelphia Eagles are having the Dallas Cowboys twenty and sixteen 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.760 schedule or not schedule, but season the way it's going 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.800 right now, way it's going right now, right. You know, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.120 they've had some different injuries. Cowboys had injuries too. They 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.400 were not injury free last year, sure, and so looking 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.160 at that is kind of funny to see because I 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.120 was going to look up there twenty and sixteen where 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.520 they wore Okay, so they had seven or not three 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.480 and our right, and then lost. Yeah, they lost their 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.240 tackle got suspended for like ten games. But then they're 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.600 three and two after Week six, five and two, after 0:08:55.679 --> 0:09:00.280 Week seven, five and three, after Week eight, five and four, 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.800 week nine, Yeah, and then they beat the Falcons in 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.040 Week ten. Yeah they did in a close game. Yeah. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.800 You know, you look at Wins's stats too, and he 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.800 and Dak are very similar this year. But Wins is 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.040 having a kind of a Dack like season from last year, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.880 where he's the efficiency is sky high. I mean, no 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.880 very few turnovers, ball's going down the field, making a 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.920 lot of plays. Yeah, they got he's got some weapons 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.640 on the outside. They went out, and they've kind of 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.120 solidified the running game a little bit. A little bit 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.320 like watching the Cowboys play, they do more of their 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.720 ball goes sideways more when they run the football. It's 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.640 more of a read option attack, and you rarely really 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.000 see him pull the ball where you see him where 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.920 he gives people problems. He's really accurate. He's a very 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.160 accurate throwing quarterback. I mean, at least this year he's 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.440 been you know the games I was watching, He's hit 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.560 some really good touch passes, but he escapes trouble. There's 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.240 people that have a chance to begin him on the 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.360 ground and they don't do it, and he buys a 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.800 second chance with his feet. He's a big guy, he's 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.680 got some athletic ability. So yeah, I mean, if you 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:01.959 have a chance to get him on the ground, you 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.520 better do that. Few teams haven't. Do you think they 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.400 ever think about that, like a just little edge, like 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.920 I just want to be better than this guy. No, 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.440 you don't think so the want to be good. I 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.839 don't think you. I mean, I don't think you sit 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.840 there and contemplate that during the week, like you go 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.000 home and go, oh, I'm going to be better than him. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.719 I think it's just kind of something funny to think 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.280 about what Prescott in Wins is saying, Yeah, you try 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.280 and think you want to be better. Well, you want 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.679 to be better, but I don't think you would be 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.680 labor the point. No, you know what, I think the 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.240 Cowboys really respected Wins. They had him up on the 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.000 top of the draft boarder near the top of the 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.320 draft board. They coached him in the Senior Bowl game, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.360 learned a lot about him. They had the fourth pick 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.920 of that draft, too. Yeah, they could have moved up 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.040 if they were really interested in getting him. I was 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.680 more so thinking of, like, you know, there was such 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.480 a storyline of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady for so 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.800 many years about who was the better quarterback, and you know, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.560 different things like that that people loved to compare the 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.960 two and know you ever wondered they did different things 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.400 where it was like Peyton would be like, I'm the 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.880 better one. Oh yeah, very similar to kind of like 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:10.640 the Dez Norman type rivalry. Yeah, another basketball comparison. I'm 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.840 not comparing them to these two guys, but Magic and 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.080 Bird used to They admitted they would open the paper 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.880 in the eighties and see what the other did in 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.120 the box score, and Bird said when it was time 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.079 to go, he knew it was time to go. When 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.480 he stopped checking. He didn't care what Magic was doing anymore. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.400 But see, they played against the I know, I know different. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.079 It's more fun probably for the media and fans because 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.640 I mean, like Tay said, there's that Cowboys Wentz connection 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.160 that went back to the Senior Bowl, like they coached him, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:37.760 you know, and then they had that high pick and 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.040 they wound up, you know, going with the running back. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.880 Wentz is already taken, but they didn't know Tony Romo 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.480 would get hurt. They didn't tire exactly, no, but there 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.320 is that, there is that storyline that goes back and 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.280 Dak obviously has been fantastic. Well they made the Cowboys 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.200 made the determination though they were going to try and 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.520 help Tony. We've talked about that. That's whether you drafted 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.960 Ezekiel Olliett. You know that was going to be your 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.480 difference maker right there. You know, he it was, you 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.800 know him Ramsey. I mean, they were, they were, they were, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.760 but you know, they said, hey, we need the runner. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.560 They were they were trying to prolong Tony's career with 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.200 a legitimate running back. Well, the best season he had 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.080 I think, correct me if I'm wrong. Twenty fourteen, DeMarco 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.560 Murray had that fantastic season and it just took so 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.040 much pressure off Tony and then DeMarco got hurt and 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.000 he had an incredible December if I remember correctly as 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.839 well as you know. I mean, everybody was always getting 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.560 on Romo about his poor Decembers, but that one, they 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.360 don't think they lost a game. He was his touchdown 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:34.360 the interception ratio was was big. Yeah. I mean he 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.200 was pretty good in two thousand and seven and two yeah, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.280 and two thousand and nine, yeah, well it was up there. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.719 It was pretty good. I think I think he might 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.719 have been his best quarterback rating of his career in 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.559 twenty fourteen. Anyway, you see what a running game does 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.280 for any quarterback. Yeah. Absolutely. So it's always fun to 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.000 talk about these different things. Mickey loves it. He's the 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.040 one who wanted me to bring all of this up today. 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.760 He's just very excited by it, aren't you, Mick. We 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.320 better be excited about who's going to be able to 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.120 play and who's not going to be able to play. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.600 On Sunday. I think more than anything else. Well, why 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.040 don't you that's a great segue, Mick, Why don't you 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.720 give us a full update on what Jerry Jones and 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.000 Coach Garrett said yesterday afternoon. I don't know that they 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:21.719 said anything that was totally revealing, but I think when 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.080 Jason says of somebody it might be some time in 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.120 reference to Sean Lee, let's say three games, then I 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.520 think it'll be some time. He's going to have a 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.960 hard time making it back for this game. And if 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.680 he doesn't get back in time for this game, Thanksgivings 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.000 probably out too, So then you gotta see. It's a 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.839 weird injury. Jason explained to us how it happened, and 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.600 it's almost like you get pushed from behind and you 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.319 stretch your hamstring out. I've never even heard of that before. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.280 Remember what happened, Yeah, Remember what happened with Switzer at 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.360 camp when he got yea Yeah, same thing. Yeah. He's 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.960 also dealing with a bilateral quad problem too. There's a 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.760 lot of things going on with Sean Lee. You really 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.559 don't He's got things, brus that people don't understand. He's 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.679 got he's he's playing through he was playing through some 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.439 things right there. But yeah, Mickey's right, though, I think 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.920 there's a better chance for Tyrann Smith, who matter of fact, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.760 he was out there. Yeah when when you Yeah, that's 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.400 a great thing about working here. You can just kind 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.560 of walk by the windows and somebody's out there working 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.960 on the field, and you know they're trying. I mean, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.040 Britt Brown's out there. They're trying to get him ready 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.200 to play. They understand the magnitude of the game and 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.600 what's going on right now. It's just we all saw it. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.000 But with Lee, I don't expect him to play the 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.440 next three weeks. I mean the schum Yeah, three games 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.560 in twelve days. You can't ask him to do that. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.160 You really can't. I mean probably even if he could. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:48.440 Don't want him playing the next two Yeah, yeah, it's 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.320 a bad schedule. Think about the first time he heard 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.920 his hamstring like. They didn't rush it. They said, hey, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.960 we got this bye week at a bye weekend, let's 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.440 give him Green Bay And so yeah, I mean, oh yeah, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.640 because you know, when you say three games, that sounds 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.840 like a long time, but in this situation that you're right, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.320 Rob three games twelve days very appealing to someone who 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.920 needs that time to rest, and it affects Hire and too. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.560 I think you know. Jerry reiterated that this morning on 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.160 the fan, better chance for him to play this week, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.280 But then can he turn around on three days rest 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.840 and play on Thanksgiving? Well, it depends on what happens 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.600 in the games. On what happens in the game. Jason 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.080 yesterday said, you got to look at it individually and say, 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.360 can he play Sunday and then when we get to Thanksgiving? 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.600 We need to Thanksgiving. But obviously they need him in 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.760 this game. And then Jeff Heath in concussion protocol and 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:39.360 I was reminded that he had a concussion in training camp. Yeah, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.960 so this is two within what four months? Four months? 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.760 Same thing's going on with Freeman right now in Atlanta. Yeah, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.320 he's had multiple three Yeah, yeah, he added in training camp. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.080 Remember you missed some time, Okay, I don't remember at 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.680 what point, but he did, so that complicates this one. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.800 Training camp feels like a long time. Now. Dan Bailey 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.760 starting to kick a little, I understand, I don't know 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.920 if he's kicking enough. And then we have to consider 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.400 what Jerry said initially about well can he get back 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.080 sooner than people thought? And just kick field goals and 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.320 not kick off because the kickoff kind of torks your 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.640 leg more severely. So that's another one to keep an 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.440 eye on. The one do we know for sure is 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.240 Zeke's not going to be here, Thank you. It's a 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.760 good wrap up. And by the way, Swain was out 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.520 there working too today. Sounds like he may be able 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.840 to practice tomorrow. Jason, we founded hopeful. Yeah, more so 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.440 than the other two guys who they he basically ruled 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:43.600 out of practicing on Wednesday. So yeah, the Tyrone one 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.320 I think you got to hope for. I think the 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.680 Sean you better start figuring out how you're going to 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.640 play without him, Yeah, which they haven't figured out yet. Nope, 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.000 you know who I kind of feel, And this is 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.120 way early. We're sitting here on Tuesday. I feel like 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.600 Shanley and Cheeto will switch places on the inactives list 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.919 this week. Yeah, oh you think probably so probably? So 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:07.960 are you trying to rub it into him that he 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.960 that he missed on Cheetah last week? No, we got 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.800 pizza tomorrow. Technically I missed too, So I need to 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.480 help you on that. Nah, Okay, we're good. No, I 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.320 just know that they need to figure out something to 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.800 I mean, like I say, Jason said, he's not in 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.879 the business of trying to develop guys right now. He's 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.280 trying to win football games. So let's see where Cheetoh fits. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:25.879 And he might and they might need him, I mean, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.160 because Anthon Brown hasn't been Anthony Brown hasn't been great. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.359 And you know, and there was some even before we 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.120 got to this point Anthony Brown, they were they were 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.119 doing some things rep wise in practice with Jordan Lewis 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.920 to kind of give him more work, you know, or 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.520 equal amount of work with with Anthy Brown. Well, and 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.879 I know, Mick, you know, you have fun saying you think, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.840 but there could have been there is going to be discussion. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.960 Last week, two linebackers were on the inactive list. Of course, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.560 you had Marsha Lillard and Justin Durant on that list. 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.200 You got to look at that now with Lee out, Yeah, no, yah, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.920 that's that's you know. Do you do you go with 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.159 you feel more comfortable going with Durant the experience but 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.240 maybe not the athletic ability, or do you feel like, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.679 well maybe and I know you don't know, march Lillard. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.359 I think this is really probably an unfair question. But 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.040 which if you had the better athlete, would you go 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.959 with the better athlete? Now that or the experience? Mickey, 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:29.199 My understanding is it's gonna be Hitchens probably at the 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.280 week spot. Okay, So then they have to figure out 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.480 out who's gonna play who's gonna play Mike? Then, So 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.320 now that gives you the question, do you do you 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.240 go with? You continue to go with Jalen Smith there? Well, 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:43.840 but they can't not not for saying, I'm saying somebody 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.520 else Durant. Can Lillard play? Yeah, that I'm saying, I 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.080 think you could try try March Lillard? Yeah, why not 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.119 at Mark? He's played Mike linebacker before. But he's I 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.280 think he's a better will. But you know, you're you're 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.320 in a You're in a situation where you really don't 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.160 have a lot of options. You touched on this yesterday. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.560 Lillard better runner at this point, movement, younger guy, right, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.359 fresher legs than duran He's a veteran. He's played twenty 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.000 nine games though in the NFL, so may sit on 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.040 the outside all the time. Been on the outside of 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.160 majority of preseason. He played in the inside a little bit. Yeah, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.159 play twenty nine career games. Yeah, well that makes you 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.479 feel a little bit better because I would say, you know, Jalen, 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.720 there's that experience factor too when he's had to step in, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.760 So it does. Durant helps stabilize things. They're just for 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.600 recognition experience standpoint. So I think it'll come down to 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.800 who can play that middle linebacker spot on the nickel, 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.680 because that's where I think Jalen gets in trouble because 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.160 you gotta cover, you gotta cover, you gotta move you still, 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.600