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Speaker 4: We did two weeks ago. We like set a goal.
Speaker 4: Last week was just kind of we're just chatting. You know,
Speaker 4: we're just taking these goofing you know, just goofing around.
Speaker 6: You know we could goof around last week.
Speaker 3: You're such a Yeah, we can't goof around. We can't
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Speaker 5: This Monday is gone. It's Tuesday is.
Speaker 1: A stand back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like the midnight rule. It's like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: still feel this for a few days.
Speaker 8: Thanks, I mean we okay, I'll give you until after
Speaker 8: news and notes, after.
Speaker 6: News and notes it, I don't know.
Speaker 9: You gotta give me until we start talking about the
Speaker 9: packers tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Two whole days.
Speaker 9: Bron I am not the one that has to put
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Speaker 7: We're taking calls today. So you think they're gonna be
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Speaker 5: Sitting here soaking, it's not soaking.
Speaker 9: Be not mistaken. It's it's not soaking. It is pissivity,
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Speaker 4: Five minutes after, I'm blood red five and a half,
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Speaker 4: By the way, last night had a great conversation on
Speaker 4: the Cowboys Hour had sidecar social.
Speaker 3: With one Cavante Turpin. Okay, last night.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 5: I did have you tell him that was a great catch.
Speaker 5: It was a great catch.
Speaker 3: We talked about the catch.
Speaker 4: We talked about his mentality through it all and how
Speaker 4: he knew he was going to get ear hold and
Speaker 4: stuck through with the ball. It was really cool. He
Speaker 4: did a great job on the show last night. It
Speaker 4: was with Nicole Hutcheson, who, of course was just here
Speaker 4: with Girls Talk, Boys Talk this morning. I did ask
Speaker 4: him the quest question, which nickname is better? I asked
Speaker 4: him right at the end, you can go look at it.
Speaker 4: There is there is tape evidence, and I threw him
Speaker 4: out there. I didn't throw any allegiance to any of
Speaker 4: the nicknames, but a couple of the nicknames.
Speaker 6: But before you, before you said what was your nickname?
Speaker 1: Ts Mini?
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't use it exactly, which makes it all.
Speaker 3: I used to continue because I thought that was a
Speaker 3: torpedo is mine, and that's.
Speaker 1: There's a reason that.
Speaker 3: Sorry, what did you present him?
Speaker 4: I presented Turpy Turpey speed Speed and he said he
Speaker 4: liked it. And then I also presented the torpedo and
Speaker 4: he said, no, scratch that one out.
Speaker 3: What interesting?
Speaker 10: Almost sorry, Beam, I thought I would have it. He
Speaker 10: did at all, makes that entire belly void.
Speaker 4: No, I just got to go back to the line
Speaker 4: and send my turping Jersey.
Speaker 1: Offer it up for a reason. He knew what was
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 5: No I did.
Speaker 4: I offered it up because I thought torpedo was yours.
Speaker 4: But torpedo is beams. That's unfortunate. I would have never
Speaker 4: put Beam in that situation.
Speaker 10: But you Yeah, but but Bat like I was trying
Speaker 10: to make people.
Speaker 6: But he liked.
Speaker 3: But he did like Turvy Turvy speeds and he says
Speaker 3: he hears it a lot.
Speaker 5: He said his.
Speaker 4: Favorite one of all time was one from high school
Speaker 4: and he was called video game.
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, And I was like, that's pretty sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, being called video game just as like a joystick
Speaker 4: running through everybody, which I could see that with turbans.
Speaker 1: But the people circle button, juke button, I think you're
Speaker 1: throwing the magic man man.
Speaker 3: Now you see me? Now you don't you like it?
Speaker 3: I know you do?
Speaker 11: The nel.
Speaker 6: That's why nicknames.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you see that where he's like demonstrating, Yeah, the ocean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get into.
Speaker 8: News and ah shucks must we I don't want I told
Speaker 8: you got five five and a half.
Speaker 1: Minute except the timer all the live long dinner.
Speaker 9: But this pasifty shall live on, all right, So let's
Speaker 9: start with the good The good news is is twofold
Speaker 9: number one. It does appear that Jadeveon Clowney will make
Speaker 9: his debut for the Cowboys this Sunday against.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 5: That's good.
Speaker 3: Stop with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we like that, We like it a lot.
Speaker 3: And that was courtesy of Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: That was courtesy well, actually it was courtesy.
Speaker 3: Of Stephen Jones, Stephen yesterday and.
Speaker 9: Jerry today on both on one O five three the fan.
Speaker 9: So that that looks like it's it's ago. Also on
Speaker 9: the good news front, Deron Bland is expected and on
Speaker 9: track to return from his foot injury against the Green
Speaker 9: Bay Packers as well.
Speaker 1: Like that, it's good.
Speaker 3: Stop on the right track.
Speaker 9: Two defensive players, yep, two defensive players get the back impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which side of the ball is struggling the most?
Speaker 12: Right now?
Speaker 5: Defense?
Speaker 1: Defense? All right?
Speaker 9: Now, offensive side of the ball. Now we go to
Speaker 9: the bad news. Yeah, that was the good news. Here's
Speaker 9: the band. Can't stop there, I can't stop, won't stopt.
Speaker 1: So City Lamb, let's start there.
Speaker 9: City Lamb, as we all know, has the high ankle spring,
Speaker 9: and his timeline is varying depending on who you talk to,
Speaker 9: what day of the you know, what time of the
Speaker 9: day you're talking.
Speaker 3: It is all over the place.
Speaker 9: On one note, it's well, let's go ahead and state
Speaker 9: that he will not play against the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: So let's be clear on that.
Speaker 9: But I've heard everything, Yeah, I know right, I've heard
Speaker 9: everything from it'll be a week to week evaluation after
Speaker 9: the green Bay Packers game you put but that was
Speaker 9: a body catch you got extend. So yeah, so ceite Lamb.
Speaker 9: His his timeline is all over the place. But we
Speaker 9: know he's not going to play against the green Bay Packers,
Speaker 9: and I'm just going to treat it as a week
Speaker 9: to week thereafter because I've heard everything from two to
Speaker 9: three to two to four to three to five week
Speaker 9: to week on CDEE Lamb.
Speaker 1: But scratch him against the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3: And it is a high ankle.
Speaker 1: It is a high ankle spring.
Speaker 4: So the way with high ankle springs vary from everybody.
Speaker 4: Everybody wants to tab the four to six weeks as
Speaker 4: the norse default, which that still is very possible, but
Speaker 4: with a wide receiver like ceedee.
Speaker 3: Lamb, there's it goes twofold one.
Speaker 4: You look at him and you say, well, he needs
Speaker 4: to be able to cut and move and go laterally
Speaker 4: and accelerate.
Speaker 3: What do you need to do that. You need your
Speaker 3: ankle to do that, and you need it to be healthy.
Speaker 4: So even if he is returning and he's able to play,
Speaker 4: it probably won't be one hundred percent within that four
Speaker 4: to six week window. The second part about it is
Speaker 4: that he's been very durable throughout his career, and when
Speaker 4: he has missed time, he's been very quick to get
Speaker 4: back to it.
Speaker 3: I thought Steven Jones yesterday put it in a very
Speaker 3: simple term. He said he heals.
Speaker 4: Quick, and I was like, Okay, I guess that that's
Speaker 4: not the doctor term.
Speaker 7: And he's a tough dude. I mean, he played all
Speaker 7: of last in with one shoulder with a spraining.
Speaker 4: Dac joint all the way through, and so I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be getting back. But the fact that they're not going
Speaker 4: to put him on IR that's a win.
Speaker 9: That does bode well for him, And a little Birdie
Speaker 9: told me that yesterday Ceedee Lamb was doing some rehab
Speaker 9: work on the field outside alongside Trevor Trevon Diggs with
Speaker 9: training britt Brown, and he was you know, running, cutting,
Speaker 9: doing some some I'm not going to say full speed,
Speaker 9: but it was brisk jogging in between his cuts, and
Speaker 9: he was you know, doing everything he needed to do
Speaker 9: and that he was moving fairly well. Now that being said,
Speaker 9: he was also spotted in the building thereafter on the scooter.
Speaker 9: So my thought process is taking both of those data
Speaker 9: points together, is that they they liked that he can
Speaker 9: be back far sooner than a four week period, which
Speaker 9: is why they're not putting him on the IR. But
Speaker 9: when he's not rehabbing, they do not him on that
Speaker 9: leg or that ankle at all. So so that's not
Speaker 9: great news for CD, but certainly far from worst case scenario.
Speaker 5: It's not craziest rumor that you heard wevolving around CD.
Speaker 9: The craziest would I won't say crazy, but I did
Speaker 9: hear the default four to six and it was it
Speaker 9: was never viewed as.
Speaker 8: For them that he was on the flight to Germany
Speaker 8: to go against themselves. And all kinds of other stuff. Really, yeah,
Speaker 8: there's a lot of I mean, that wasn't a rumor.
Speaker 8: I mean there's a lot of stuff going on. There's
Speaker 8: a lot going around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: In that he's in the considered that wild place in
Speaker 4: October fist.
Speaker 3: They have that at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 9: It's fine, nice plug and nice plug to the curveball.
Speaker 9: This is also on the offensive side. Curveball came out
Speaker 9: of left field yesterday, Tyler Booker, that's.
Speaker 3: Not worth curveballs.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, as an outfielder, I continue.
Speaker 3: They keep going they curved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't know.
Speaker 5: He said.
Speaker 3: He said, a curveball out of left field.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 3: That's fair throwing.
Speaker 1: And can't curve. You better learn how to slap. Isaiah
Speaker 1: knows because you know outfield.
Speaker 6: But when you're hitting home base from the third place.
Speaker 1: Damn it. Kyle.
Speaker 9: Okay, So Tyler Booker, he is out for now. This
Speaker 9: looks like a true four to six week times.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 1: This is a truth.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about right now?
Speaker 9: Seriously, at some point in the game, there's late in
Speaker 9: the game.
Speaker 1: It was before that interception, the final few reps.
Speaker 9: It's like you can kind of pinpoint when it may
Speaker 9: have happened, but he popped back up, so he played
Speaker 9: every single snap in the game.
Speaker 1: We saw him in the locker room after the game.
Speaker 1: He was fine.
Speaker 9: No boot, no, not a not a single device. No indication. Okay,
Speaker 9: we talked to Shotty yesterday, no indication. No one knew
Speaker 9: that Taller Booker was dealing with this situation. Yeah, they
Speaker 9: kept up on the rap right shortly thereafter after the
Speaker 9: press conference, kaboom. Tyler Booker is out for projected four
Speaker 9: to six weeks of true four to six weeks, and
Speaker 9: he is likely to be headed to IR this week.
Speaker 5: So with what.
Speaker 9: Last week, it's a Heindel spring, it's a Heinkel spring,
Speaker 9: a little bit more, a little bit more severe than CDs.
Speaker 9: And like Jerry Jones said on one O five three
Speaker 9: the Fan and Stephen Jones said yesterday, difference between those
Speaker 9: two being not only severity, but just the size of
Speaker 9: the individual trying to come.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the bigger you are, the harder it is to
Speaker 6: come back from.
Speaker 9: And that's just so Hence Coop is now The offensive
Speaker 9: line that lost Cooper BB to i R one week
Speaker 9: prior will likely lose Tyler Booker to ir this week.
Speaker 1: So you're seeing brock Hoffman that starting center and TJ.
Speaker 9: Bass is going to be next in line at right guard.
Speaker 1: Our pets heads are falling.
Speaker 6: I thought you said five minutes.
Speaker 1: Started the timer.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, so the.
Speaker 9: Time seriously, yeah, completely out left field. This is Remember
Speaker 9: you didn't now you're Green Bay.
Speaker 4: Bro He did pick up Trevor Keegan from waivers off
Speaker 4: Philadelphia's waivers. I'm not saying stop, I'm just saying, these
Speaker 4: are the options outside of it, it's not good.
Speaker 5: Well your first option.
Speaker 3: Game.
Speaker 8: Oh that's right, he's already sorry, you're to your third
Speaker 8: you're now third offensive guard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're down your two young.
Speaker 8: Second, you're second string center, third string offensive guard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bass is a gamer.
Speaker 9: But my my problem is is there is now now
Speaker 9: that I've seen Tyler Booker on an NFL field, there's
Speaker 9: a drop off there. But also there's the comp It's
Speaker 9: the combo that I mean, you're going against this Green
Speaker 9: Bay Packers defensive front and you have two backups right
Speaker 9: either in the middle of it.
Speaker 7: That's that's who aside from Michael Parsons and then not
Speaker 7: even to dismiss him, but they're a great defensive front
Speaker 7: carried away in it before and after Michael parksons so well.
Speaker 5: Since you brought his name up.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys have been watching the
Speaker 8: Green Bay Packers to date, but he's been lining up
Speaker 8: over the center a lot.
Speaker 6: He loves doing it.
Speaker 3: He loves that, and they started that.
Speaker 5: Yes, well now they thank you.
Speaker 4: It allows Gary to go on an island outside sacks
Speaker 4: against Cland.
Speaker 8: And it's ISO. They're gonna they like the ISO. Micah
Speaker 8: on your center or your guard Jesus, TJ.
Speaker 3: Brockoff, is it.
Speaker 5: Commercial time yet?
Speaker 1: We?
Speaker 3: I mean we can maybe go there.
Speaker 1: We should probably that we happened to the five minute
Speaker 1: the need to.
Speaker 3: Break, gotta go to break anymore?
Speaker 9: Now you know it's pat No, we had too good,
Speaker 9: too bad, too good on the defensive side, too bad
Speaker 9: on the offensive side. And now let's let's give it
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Speaker 3: He thought that twenty four hour rules still applied.
Speaker 4: But TJ or excuse me, but Tyler Booker is out
Speaker 4: for four to six.
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Speaker 9: He was like, what are you doing? You're sitting on
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Speaker 3: Or you know what I know? Cheer you up here, Isaiah.
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Speaker 3: What's going on? I need you to bring the energy zah. Yeah.
Speaker 13: We need a better pass rush and can we actually
Speaker 13: cover somebody? I mean, come on, I mean that game
Speaker 13: on Sunday was horrible. It's that one touchdowns secondary. I
Speaker 13: could have went out and covered. I'm like seeing in
Speaker 13: the TV. I'm like, come on, like our secondary horrible.
Speaker 9: I love that, Mike, really quickly before you get there,
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Speaker 13: And I don't want to coach.
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Speaker 1: He was like, do we have a pass rush? Can
Speaker 1: we even come any money?
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Speaker 7: Speaking for the fan as a whole, I think, uh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 7: what what can we do as fans to get these
Speaker 7: guys more involved?
Speaker 6: Actually cover some guys?
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's rough to watch, and as a fan,
Speaker 7: you're sort of sitting there hopeless. You're like, wait a second,
Speaker 7: I know these guys are better than what we're seeing
Speaker 7: on tape, right, they.
Speaker 6: Have to be. They have to be.
Speaker 7: And being as someone who's seen this team throughout camp,
Speaker 7: but granted it's the only football team we get to
Speaker 7: watch it camp, right, at several points during this camp,
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 6: Like, this was this looks pretty good, man.
Speaker 1: These guys im.
Speaker 7: And especially you know, guys like hier Elim, Jack Sanborn,
Speaker 7: guys that you thought at camp like, all right, I'm
Speaker 7: seeing something near.
Speaker 3: Attle bit ony question.
Speaker 6: It's flabbergast.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The question mark to me is and in talking and
Speaker 4: talking with Barry and in talking with some of these
Speaker 4: other defensive minded guys over the last couple of days,
Speaker 4: I keep hearing the same thing.
Speaker 3: And honestly, you and I have the same conversation too.
Speaker 4: It's simple. This is simple stuff from a scheme standpoint.
Speaker 4: You're running stuff that you've learned all the way back
Speaker 4: in the early years, and this is We've had this
Speaker 4: conversation on the show. And then you talk to some
Speaker 4: of the guys kind of off the record, just in
Speaker 4: locker room yesterday and after the game on Sunday, and
Speaker 4: when you're talking to these guys, they say, oh, there's
Speaker 4: just no communication and people are trying to pick up
Speaker 4: the scheme. It's like, why are we still trying.
Speaker 3: To pick up the scheme? It's week three?
Speaker 4: Where was the lapse to get to this point on
Speaker 4: a simple scheme to start with? Not only are you
Speaker 4: you're frustrated the result and you're frustrated at the big
Speaker 4: plays because in Shotty talked about it yesterday too, you're
Speaker 4: not just giving up fifteen to twenty yards per play,
Speaker 4: you're giving up thirty thirty five yard.
Speaker 3: Plays, these big downfield plays.
Speaker 4: And that's busted coverage, that's bad situation, that's bad eyes,
Speaker 4: that's bad everything on the defensive side.
Speaker 3: And yet it's a simple scheme at the same time.
Speaker 9: I really think it's just a combination of a lot
Speaker 9: of things going wrong at the exact same time. It's
Speaker 9: a perfect storm of errors, miscommunication, it's guys being asked
Speaker 9: to do things that they don't excel at. It's injury,
Speaker 9: it's it's this, it's that, it's the third it's it's
Speaker 9: quite literally just everything that could be going wrong right
Speaker 9: now for this defense.
Speaker 3: Is really going wrong really quickly.
Speaker 7: I think it is a parallel to last season two
Speaker 7: when you're talking about Mike Zimmer trying to install a
Speaker 7: new defense, a new coordinator at the time last year,
Speaker 7: and Jordan Lewis had brought something up halfway through the
Speaker 7: season when he was talking about the details, and it's
Speaker 7: guys that are going above and beyond the role that
Speaker 7: they are giveing been in that given defense and trying
Speaker 7: to clean up too much. We were looking at it
Speaker 7: yesterday with Donovan Wilson getting out of his zone to
Speaker 7: cover up the run when he is indeed supposed to
Speaker 7: be covering the space in the zone in the backfield
Speaker 7: that is wide open for a touchdown. I mean it's
Speaker 7: it is paying attention to the detail in manning your
Speaker 7: position and knowing your job and not trying to clean
Speaker 7: up for everybody else because everyone needs to be on
Speaker 7: their own.
Speaker 9: And this is I mean, no matter how you slice it,
Speaker 9: no matter how you slice it, let's just keep it
Speaker 9: all stay. If you trade a generational pass rusher away
Speaker 9: six days ahead of the season, you're not putting your
Speaker 9: defensive coordinator in a good spot.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're just not.
Speaker 4: And not to keep defending coach Eberflues, but when Eberflus
Speaker 4: is getting a lot of the negativity and a lot
Speaker 4: of the pushback.
Speaker 3: For all of this, and some of it deservedly so.
Speaker 4: But at some point when are we going to look
Speaker 4: at it and say, oh, these guys weren't very good
Speaker 4: with Zimmer, they weren't very good with Eberflus. They of
Speaker 4: course had a great time with dan Quinn, A damn
Speaker 4: good time, damn good time with dan Quinn. When are
Speaker 4: we going to look at it and say, these guys
Speaker 4: just don't fit here and they don't play well, They're
Speaker 4: just not good at what they do well. I mean,
Speaker 4: when is that going to be the point is just
Speaker 4: these guys can't play.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that, well, first I'll put an
Speaker 9: asterisk on because they had a damn good time with
Speaker 9: dan Quinn until the playoffs. Very true to the Green
Speaker 9: Bay Packeray Packers, because let's not let's not forget about
Speaker 9: some things to make other things look. Let's just put
Speaker 9: it all out there. But to answer your question, Kyle,
Speaker 9: I think that's a valid conversation. I think it's a
Speaker 9: conversation if we're about to find out if if no, no,
Speaker 9: we're about to find out if it's true what Schottenheimer said,
Speaker 9: which would go to your point. Shottenheimer said they've had
Speaker 9: meetings about changes that are coming, potentially with the scheme
Speaker 9: and potentially with the personnel. So that makes me wonder
Speaker 9: if that type of conversation is already being had between
Speaker 9: the coordinators and Shottenheimer, because he said in his press
Speaker 9: conference he said the standard is not being met.
Speaker 1: So changes have to be mad.
Speaker 4: Because there are times where I look at the film
Speaker 4: and you're playing ten yards off the line of scrimmage
Speaker 4: on third down and two, and I'm saying, okay, that's
Speaker 4: the scheme. But then there are other times where it's
Speaker 4: just wrong place, wrong time, wrong step in the wrong
Speaker 4: direction at this time instead of going that direction, and
Speaker 4: it's just coverage wise, you're.
Speaker 3: Not in the right spot, and that's going to be
Speaker 3: a problem. So at times it's technique, at times it's scheme.
Speaker 3: It's all bad on the defensive side of a second.
Speaker 9: We will take another call, But I want Isaida weigh
Speaker 9: in on the next call?
Speaker 1: Just he is biting his tongue, So.
Speaker 5: No, I just that was one caller. We got to
Speaker 5: get seven more, that's all.
Speaker 3: Why are you biting your tongue.
Speaker 5: I'm not biting my myself.
Speaker 3: You are, all right? Brian is our next caller? What's
Speaker 3: going on? Brian?
Speaker 12: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning, oh man. So you know,
Speaker 12: here's the I'm just going to give you a what
Speaker 12: if and ask each one of you to tell.
Speaker 1: Me what you would do.
Speaker 12: Okay, if if Jerry calls in tomorrow, and says, Hey,
Speaker 12: you know what, I'm hanging up to cleats as the GM.
Speaker 12: I'm just going to go watch the games from from
Speaker 12: the box and.
Speaker 17: You're the GM.
Speaker 12: What's the first thing you change to try to turn
Speaker 12: this around? Personally? And this is just a guess. You know,
Speaker 12: I've never coached or done anything like that a day
Speaker 12: in my life, but mine is. I think next week
Speaker 12: I start clowning and Houston because the other guys aren't
Speaker 12: getting it done and they've had a chance already, and
Speaker 12: I make it. That's that would be the first thing
Speaker 12: I would change. Can't change injuries. You know, they are
Speaker 12: what they are. That's the first thing I would look at.
Speaker 12: And I'll hang up and listen to to y'all's answer.
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you. And that's a great question.
Speaker 4: Great question. I know what Isaiah would do.
Speaker 6: Isaiahs stand back quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're going to have to speak. I know, the telebooker
Speaker 1: thing really.
Speaker 14: Go.
Speaker 8: I have to bounce and I don't think that's gonna
Speaker 8: hurt in a major way for a while. The reason
Speaker 8: why it hurts is because the first half of your season,
Speaker 8: and we said this on the post, you're not going
Speaker 8: to get away from aswering. I'm going to answer Brian's question,
Speaker 8: but like I need people to understand the severity of
Speaker 8: the timing of these injuries. The Dallas Cowboys, in order
Speaker 8: to have remotely be remotely successful this year, needed to
Speaker 8: win the first half of.
Speaker 5: The season because the second half is not second half.
Speaker 3: You just you just have a tough time.
Speaker 8: You've got to be hitting on all cylinders and be
Speaker 8: fully healthy to combat those teams.
Speaker 6: See how Detroit played last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Detroit's amazing.
Speaker 6: So you're playing them and then Philly and then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: This is compromising your ability to get off to a
Speaker 8: good start and go into that that bye week in
Speaker 8: Week ten with a winning record. So anyways, the first
Speaker 8: thing that I would do. First of all, I don't
Speaker 8: think Jerry Double has had a bad run in terms
Speaker 8: of injuries, and the whole organization has. There's there's talent
Speaker 8: on this team. These guys are fully capable of playing.
Speaker 8: They're not showing you at this moment. And I can't
Speaker 8: put my finger as to why that is. If I
Speaker 8: were playing coach slash GM, I guess if I'm the
Speaker 8: GM and I'm calling him telling the coach what decision,
Speaker 8: I mean whatever, however you guys want to look at it.
Speaker 8: If I'm shoddy, I'm there are guys in the secondary
Speaker 8: that I'm that I'm sitting.
Speaker 5: That's just the reality.
Speaker 8: I would go back to guys who have made huge
Speaker 8: contributions to you in the past. In wan Ye, Thomas,
Speaker 8: and Marquise Bell. These are guys who were leading your
Speaker 8: team in tackles, but yet they're now subjected to just
Speaker 8: be a special teams contributors. Marku's Bell two years ago
Speaker 8: had one hundred tackles last time I checked. He Now
Speaker 8: he just runs down on kickoffs and punts. Make it
Speaker 8: makes sense. There's there's something he could be doing. Mayris Lee,
Speaker 8: if I was one of the few guys that actually
Speaker 8: got a gym in cover three and you know played
Speaker 8: two to you know played this covers the way he's
Speaker 8: supposed to, so I would give him more opportunities. I
Speaker 8: would not have any entitlement to guys based upon their salaries,
Speaker 8: and that tends to happen in the NFL often there
Speaker 8: are plenty of guys like the Bells, like the wan Ye's,
Speaker 8: like the Mayor z Lea files that don't get opportunities
Speaker 8: because coaches are either have a favoritism towards certain individuals
Speaker 8: or certain players paychecks state that they should be playing
Speaker 8: first over guys who may be more capable to fit
Speaker 8: schemes and may be more capable to make plays. So
Speaker 8: I would like to see that go away, because we
Speaker 8: heard the word competition all through training camp, and there
Speaker 8: are individuals whose play through these first three games don't
Speaker 8: show that they should still be receiving the opportunities that
Speaker 8: they're receiving.
Speaker 5: I'll put it that way.
Speaker 8: But because of affiliations, comfortability, or paycheck, some of these
Speaker 8: guys are still on the field. And I believe that
Speaker 8: if what you said in training camp was true, if
Speaker 8: a backup performs better than a starter, we saw those
Speaker 8: rotations happen in training camp. The starter goes back, the
Speaker 8: second guy comes up and gets more reps. In practice,
Speaker 8: that doesn't seem to be the case now that the
Speaker 8: games are present, and I would like to see that
Speaker 8: see these coaches keep that same.
Speaker 9: Energy for me, and I love Brian's thought process from
Speaker 9: a coaching standpoint, because I'm with Isaiah. If you're the GM,
Speaker 9: you shouldn't be making those decisions. So let's just say
Speaker 9: from a coaching standpoint. I like the idea of Jadeveon
Speaker 9: Clowney and James Houston starting to let's see what that
Speaker 9: looks like. Okay, I love Isaiah's point because I was
Speaker 9: thinking that as well. Literally before you said it, I'm like, one, yeah, Marquis,
Speaker 9: and you said it, Kaboom, there you go. I would
Speaker 9: go from a coaching standpoint, let's go to the middle
Speaker 9: of the field. I'm putting Marrisleia file on the field
Speaker 9: early and often, and that's at the expense of Jack Sanborn. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 9: that's that's that would be the first movie. That's my
Speaker 9: first coaching decision. But if he wants he being Brian,
Speaker 9: if he wants the GM question, I'm flipping at least
Speaker 9: one of those picks I got from Green Bay for
Speaker 9: a Marquee defensive player, likely in their drusher.
Speaker 3: I'm not there yet. I don't think this team is
Speaker 3: one piece away. I don't I'm.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they are one people.
Speaker 9: Actually, I'll go ahead and agree that they're not one
Speaker 9: piece away with piece anime if you don't know. But
Speaker 9: what I would say is, if you combine this move
Speaker 9: with the coaching decisions that we're talking about, then maybe
Speaker 9: you now have a maybe you're cooking with something there.
Speaker 9: Maybe you're starting to brew up a good recipe. Maybe
Speaker 9: if it's one year Thomas and Marquis fell plus Mayors
Speaker 9: Leafile plus James Houston getting more burn plus j Daveon
Speaker 9: Clowney and then you throw in some kind of Marque
Speaker 9: addition on the defense. I think those things could be
Speaker 9: a recipe.
Speaker 4: As exciting as that might be, to go and get
Speaker 4: a Marquee defensive player. And trust me, if they go
Speaker 4: get the right guy, then I'm fine with it. But
Speaker 4: I said it when the trade happened was not a
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five move. That was a twenty twenty six
Speaker 4: to twenty seven move. And so with the way that
Speaker 4: the way that this defense is so broken right now,
Speaker 4: I don't have the faith that one guy is going
Speaker 4: to come in and change that to the point where
Speaker 4: this is a playoff push type of team, because that's that's.
Speaker 3: The ultimate goal, is not to make the tournament.
Speaker 4: Right now, you're hoping they have the talent to make
Speaker 4: the playoffs, but that's not the goal. The goal is
Speaker 4: to go and win the whole damn thing. And I'm
Speaker 4: not going to do that with one extra player. If
Speaker 4: you're going to go get a guy and it's the
Speaker 4: right guy, fine, but I would rather see what happens
Speaker 4: and then use those picks later on to fill in
Speaker 4: where you're gonna need it.
Speaker 7: And I don't want to name names here, but I
Speaker 7: think there are vested players on your team that could
Speaker 7: be worth something there on the market that I don't
Speaker 7: think you see a future for sure, there are quite
Speaker 7: a few. And at least for me currently, that's I
Speaker 7: would start building capital.
Speaker 3: For the future.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: For me, that's your GM, that's my that's my my
Speaker 7: coaching hat. Mars absolutely right. I don't need to see
Speaker 7: the current linebacker corps as they stand, not naming names.
Speaker 7: I don't want to see the current linebacker corps as
Speaker 7: they stand on the field again.
Speaker 5: Period.
Speaker 1: I named the name. Yeah, continue all right?
Speaker 3: Antoine from Pasadena is our next collar? Antoine? What's going on?
Speaker 17: My friend, Marty Man?
Speaker 3: How are you great?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 17: I'm fine? Hey, tell me something about this kid, number
Speaker 17: twenty five, Trequeasy Bridges. Yeah, we had a good game
Speaker 17: on tape. And you have Reddy Stewart. Those are two guys.
Speaker 17: I'm not saying you can build a secondary round but
Speaker 17: their efforts. Yeah, their effort is exactly what you want
Speaker 17: to see out of the George Pickens of the world
Speaker 17: and out of the Mazzie Smiths of the world. And
Speaker 17: it would be nice if there was a message of
Speaker 17: the rest of the team. That is going to be
Speaker 17: effort that carries this team to the rest of the season.
Speaker 17: It's gonna be the efforts that makes up for the injuries.
Speaker 17: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Appreciate you and the question as well. Bridges and and
Speaker 4: Ready Steward were those two guys, of course that were
Speaker 4: late in the edition. They were the first waver Wire
Speaker 4: wave that came in, so a lot of Cowboys fans
Speaker 4: for seeing them really for the first.
Speaker 3: Time because of that depth.
Speaker 4: Overall, thank you for the call and thank you for
Speaker 4: the question. But what did you see from those guys?
Speaker 8: I think those guys are great run fits. I don't
Speaker 8: see them as coverage guys right now. They might be
Speaker 8: good zone coverage guys if they know the responsibilities. I
Speaker 8: honestly didn't spend a lot of time watching them individually,
Speaker 8: so I would have to go back to speaking more
Speaker 8: detail about them. But I do know and I did
Speaker 8: mention this, you know, off off air, those guys are
Speaker 8: gonna come up and hit you. So I do agree
Speaker 8: with you on the effort aspect. If I'm putting on
Speaker 8: my GM hat, I am one that would load up
Speaker 8: my team with high effort individuals very much so like Detroit.
Speaker 6: And I'm so glad you bring it up.
Speaker 5: Somebody we saw it last night?
Speaker 6: Who was here? Who was here in trade twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Say the name again, just to be clear, al Kadeen Muhammad.
Speaker 6: There you go, and you saw him last last night.
Speaker 6: Make it at least three two said and a half.
Speaker 7: Two and a half with the Detroit line played lights
Speaker 7: lights out for the starting started for them, playing across
Speaker 7: the across from Hudginson. Yes, absolutely, and just high euport
Speaker 7: guy making plays that has earned the spot and is
Speaker 7: fighting for that position. And I do not think you
Speaker 7: have enough guys like that on this team currently that
Speaker 7: are doing that.
Speaker 6: And I was and Shamar.
Speaker 1: James Man, James Houston, James Houston is.
Speaker 7: James Houston is one of those guys. Shamar James yep
Speaker 7: still inactive. I don't understand it. Guys like that that
Speaker 7: need to earn that spot. I think that are hungry.
Speaker 7: You need out there and you're just not seeing it right.
Speaker 5: Now, and so they point it's very well sase.
Speaker 7: Some guys are just giving this like it goes that's
Speaker 7: my boy, like it goes to from out there.
Speaker 5: It goes to my point that I was saying. Some
Speaker 5: coaches have affiliations.
Speaker 8: So you talk about like a sand board, right, Okay,
Speaker 8: I understand he understands your system. He comes in, all right, bull,
Speaker 8: he's your guy. But once the game start and you
Speaker 8: put on the film, it's like, okay, I'm waiting, and
Speaker 8: if you don't see it, you have to make a change.
Speaker 19: Right.
Speaker 8: If you look at the secondary we're running basic schemes.
Speaker 8: All right, I understand that you're high paid. Understand, we
Speaker 8: just we gave you the bag a couple of years
Speaker 8: ago or maybe even last year.
Speaker 5: But if you can't get the job.
Speaker 8: Done and you're not executing what I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 8: going to the next man that is ready and willing.
Speaker 8: Let me see if he wants to right, because it's
Speaker 8: the next man of mentality. You don't want to do it.
Speaker 8: I can't make you do anything. You're a grown man.
Speaker 8: You make your own decisions, right, You have a paycheck,
Speaker 8: you have a contract, you decide to do what we're
Speaker 8: asking you to do, or quote unquote not understand what
Speaker 8: we're doing. Okay, cool, you be in that moment, I'm
Speaker 8: going to the next guy. That's that's how this league works.
Speaker 8: There's no feelings, there's no emotion like nobody nobody's coming
Speaker 8: to care about your feelings. We have an admission, and if
Speaker 8: you can't get the job done, I'm going on to
Speaker 8: the next guy. Last night, I'm watching that game and
Speaker 8: I text like I was livid because last year at
Speaker 8: training camp, during during the preseason games.
Speaker 5: I talked about him. I said, that's my dude.
Speaker 8: When I watch him in practice, my eye just is
Speaker 8: attracted to individuals like that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he's a dude, he's a guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, does he need some more moves, Yeah, but look
Speaker 8: at his body type and look at his effort.
Speaker 5: You can't teach either one of those things.
Speaker 4: And I'll back this up because I remember standing there.
Speaker 4: We were in the back corner of the end zone,
Speaker 4: closest to the tunnel where the players walk out, and
Speaker 4: the defense was going that direction. The offense was coming
Speaker 4: toward us, and I remember watching and Muhammad was on
Speaker 4: the right side of the line of scrimmage and Isaiah's
Speaker 4: sitting here.
Speaker 3: He's like, damn, it's like that ninety two.
Speaker 4: Cat or whatever number it was. I remember you said
Speaker 4: the number, was it ninety two. I can't remember what
Speaker 4: his number was, but it was one of the whatever
Speaker 4: his number was. I remember you saying, man that you
Speaker 4: didn't even have his name yet. You were like, he's
Speaker 4: he's real. And I mean, like you said, there was
Speaker 4: there were growing pains, there were things that he needed
Speaker 4: to learn to get there.
Speaker 3: But where he's that, he just showed it.
Speaker 4: He announced his presence to the National Football League on
Speaker 4: a national stage last.
Speaker 8: He almost has as many sacs as your entire team
Speaker 8: from last night's game.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens in Baltimore on.
Speaker 7: In big bold letters, in big bold letters, Next man
Speaker 7: up should not just apply to injury. You should be
Speaker 7: able to look at the guys that you have on
Speaker 7: the field and say we need to make it.
Speaker 8: Like they said in training him and like that energy
Speaker 8: and I'll get shot credit because he said it yesterday.
Speaker 6: He's like, we're gonna make personnel changes. We're going to
Speaker 6: take a hard look.
Speaker 8: You hope to see it, and I know we gotta
Speaker 8: get to this next color be direct break. The things
Speaker 8: that we're referring to, they're inexcusable, Like the mistakes that
Speaker 8: are happening are beyond inexcusable. But these are most simplicitic
Speaker 8: people all talking about after the game. Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 8: have to get to a more simplicit defense. There's there's
Speaker 8: nothing else that's more simplistic than what's already being ran,
Speaker 8: like legit, like I would he's talking.
Speaker 6: About like that.
Speaker 7: Calls should be more simplistic, but there is nothing else
Speaker 7: communication you can run that is more simplistic than what's
Speaker 7: being called.
Speaker 8: In the fact that these guys are not executing it,
Speaker 8: have to make changes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta make a switch. Gotta make a switch, and
Speaker 4: we've got to take a break. When we come back
Speaker 4: here on Talking Cowboys. We've got a couple more callers.
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Speaker 4: the line. It's not Troy Yekman. I wish he was calling.
Speaker 4: That'd be fun too, But that's okay. We're gonna be
Speaker 4: totally fine. We'll be back with more right after this.
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Speaker 1: The forgotten Yeah, forgotten?
Speaker 4: All right, Let's get to these next couple of callers.
Speaker 4: The calls have been phenomenal today by callers. You guys
Speaker 4: are really bringing the heat today. This one is Troy
Speaker 4: from Philly, one of our very own Troy and enemy
Speaker 4: behind enemy lines, giving us a call.
Speaker 3: Troy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 13: My guys?
Speaker 16: What's going on?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 6: Troy?
Speaker 3: Good to hear from you.
Speaker 16: Same here, man. Well, first of all, I'll be I'll
Speaker 16: be Troy Ami if you want me to, you know,
Speaker 16: come on, having a problem with that.
Speaker 4: I just need somebody to give us a call to
Speaker 4: that way we can bring them back in the building.
Speaker 3: That's that's all.
Speaker 16: I wish I could do the impersonation. I would do
Speaker 16: it for you. You guys are all over it.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 16: I'm I'm totally where you are because I believe that
Speaker 16: this team, Uh, there's definitely some problems on the field,
Speaker 16: but I think most of this team's problem is off
Speaker 16: the field on the sideline because I'm seeing the same
Speaker 16: old coaching stuff. We're gonna do it our way and
Speaker 16: my guys, and I thought all that was supposed to
Speaker 16: be different because that defense is not working. I want
Speaker 16: to see just like you guys were saying, I need
Speaker 16: to see thirty I need to see thirty five.
Speaker 12: You know I use the.
Speaker 9: Numbers, don't you know?
Speaker 16: I need to see fifty Like where's this guy? Like
Speaker 16: you got dynamic players sitting on your bench like that
Speaker 16: you're not playing? Where is Where are these guys? And
Speaker 16: it can't be that they're not getting it because the
Speaker 16: guys on the field ain't getting it, So I mean,
Speaker 16: it can't be like I need to see more of
Speaker 16: the guys that's not on the field. And if I
Speaker 16: see fifty seven on the field one more time, I'll
Speaker 16: be calling you guys next week from best Buy because
Speaker 16: I'm going to need another TV. I'm like, I'm sick
Speaker 16: of them, I really am. I get that he may
Speaker 16: be trying and all that, I get it, but I
Speaker 16: can't do him anymore. I can't if I want to
Speaker 16: just switch over to the office for a minute, because
Speaker 16: I well, nineteen plays seventy six yards ten minutes and
Speaker 16: they ran the ball eleven straight times. I'm screaming at
Speaker 16: my TV even before that drives me. Once eighty eight
Speaker 16: goes down, we need to be running the ball more.
Speaker 16: You getting seven to pop every single time. This guy,
Speaker 16: you now have a running game of a running back.
Speaker 16: Run the ball. He needed to have thirty carries last week.
Speaker 16: Thirty carries and you get the other guy. I really
Speaker 16: don't care much for twenty four, but you get the
Speaker 16: other guy seven or eight like that's where we need
Speaker 16: to be on offense. And then one last thing, we
Speaker 16: don't have a one A and A one B in
Speaker 16: terms of receiver. We got a one in the two
Speaker 16: because if we had a one and a A one
Speaker 16: A and one B one B will be able to
Speaker 16: do what one A does. Once once eighty eight went
Speaker 16: out to me, it looked like San Francisco playoff game
Speaker 16: a few years ago. That's what it looked like to me.
Speaker 16: We're right back to that same thing where there is
Speaker 16: nobody we can get the ball to bring, run the ball,
Speaker 16: get that safety in the box and then you can
Speaker 16: do what you want to do behind that, I'm not
Speaker 16: getting it.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, the lots to unpack.
Speaker 4: They're really good call overall, Troy, I think you did
Speaker 4: a great job and I agree with you on the
Speaker 4: last side of it. If Pickens is gonna have to
Speaker 4: show that he's a one this week.
Speaker 7: I would argue that you do have a one A
Speaker 7: in one B. I think the talent is there for
Speaker 7: George Pickens. I think he hasn't been running routes very well.
Speaker 7: He hasn't been great in run blocking, but he the
Speaker 7: talent is there, obviously. But I think you're back to
Speaker 7: the issue of last year where you do have a one,
Speaker 7: a solidified one. Yeah, and then you have a three
Speaker 7: and a four and a five. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: There is no second option there. You have Cavante Turpin,
Speaker 7: who I think you can scheme, who's played well. He's
Speaker 7: great and he's very talented obviously, but I think defenses
Speaker 7: can kind of scheme him out of the play. I
Speaker 7: just don't think you have a reliable enough too.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go ahead and say it again.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say it, Ryan Flinoy, I need to see
Speaker 9: more of Ryan Flinoy.
Speaker 1: I need to see it.
Speaker 9: I mean when you look at and this is why
Speaker 9: I pose the question to Shoddy yesterday.
Speaker 6: More opportunity or more from his opportunity.
Speaker 9: Because when given the opportunity, Ryan Flinoy has done his
Speaker 9: job and then some he's giving you the plus on
Speaker 9: top of the doing the basic of doing his job right.
Speaker 9: So even in Chicago, obviously the game starts getting out
Speaker 9: of hand and Chicago starts pulling away. Now we start
Speaker 9: to see in that timeframe Ryan Flinoy get targeted and
Speaker 9: then what did he do his job and then got
Speaker 9: you some yak after that? Good quality catches going up
Speaker 9: high point in the catches. He's physical, he has to speed.
Speaker 9: His route running is vastly improved over last season, which
Speaker 9: wasn't poor, but that means it's that much better this season.
Speaker 9: So for the question of you know, what's the answer
Speaker 9: in the absence of Ceedee Lamb, I asked Shotty about
Speaker 9: Jonathan Mingo as well, and he did say Jonathan Mingo
Speaker 9: is nearing the finish line. So his twenty one day
Speaker 9: practice window KETA note can be activated as early as
Speaker 9: next week if the Cowboys choose to do so. So
Speaker 9: Jonathan Mingo might be on the way back, but as
Speaker 9: far as this week effective this week, there's no reason
Speaker 9: in my mind that Ryan Flinoy shouldn't be given some
Speaker 9: a good amount of talgets Opposite, George Pickings totally agree.
Speaker 4: The moment that Patrick just mentioned Ryan Flinoy and Jonathan Mingo,
Speaker 4: Isaiah just let out the biggest yawn and I couldn't
Speaker 4: agree more.
Speaker 3: I just don't think those guys are very good right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm.
Speaker 6: Just saything change your mind at all, and not even.
Speaker 5: A little bit.
Speaker 4: Really, No, I until I see it in the regular
Speaker 4: season and Ryan Flinoy has made a couple of plays,
Speaker 4: I'll give him very much no credit and show me more.
Speaker 6: Are they giving you more than Jalen Tolbert right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jayleen, I've been very disappointed in Jalen Tolbert, and
Speaker 4: I've been very active and saying, yeah, I've been disappointed.
Speaker 8: Jalen Tolbert's route running is fine, it's good, probably the
Speaker 8: best you have, the best you have right now.
Speaker 6: But what is he doing?
Speaker 3: But he doesn't do anything else?
Speaker 4: He doesn't block, he doesn't give a ton of effort,
Speaker 4: theres You can say that about.
Speaker 5: Going, you can say that about others. I agree that
Speaker 5: are paid more.
Speaker 6: Than him, and we've said it on the show.
Speaker 5: I didn't say it makes it okay?
Speaker 6: Just fourteen receptions.
Speaker 8: I'm not on the thrash Jalen Tolbert train right now
Speaker 8: because because because Jalen Tolbert. Jalen Tolbert is your best
Speaker 8: route runner right now that you have available. Now, wait,
Speaker 8: i'd argue, yes, I just quite argue.
Speaker 1: It might be Cavante.
Speaker 6: Is that good? Is that a good thing? Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 6: is your best route runner right now.
Speaker 5: No, it's not your best rune. No it's not. It's
Speaker 5: not what you want. It's not what you want.
Speaker 8: But I mean it's the it's a reality, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean. That's what you have at your That's
Speaker 8: what you have right now.
Speaker 1: It's always going to give you routes.
Speaker 9: He's going to give you physicality and in his possessions.
Speaker 9: He's also going to give you a ton almost curse,
Speaker 9: a ton of effort in his blocking in the run game.
Speaker 9: That's what you're going to get from Jalen Tolbert in
Speaker 9: addition to his value on special teams. Again, there's no
Speaker 9: reason we should not see more Ryan Flinoy going forward.
Speaker 4: John from Alaska is our fifth and final caller today. John,
Speaker 4: thanks for waking up early and starting your day with us.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning, it is early. I need some
Speaker 11: black record. Yeah, buddy, Hey, y'all took most of my points.
Speaker 11: I was going to talk about ask if Leinois was
Speaker 11: going to get more or more reps because Lamb is out.
Speaker 11: But I agree with you, I'd like to see more Belle,
Speaker 11: Thomas and Carson on defense. The one thing that I
Speaker 11: haven't heard mentioned is from the from the the information
Speaker 11: that we have at the moment for the three games,
Speaker 11: A Birthless is his defense. His style is kind of
Speaker 11: reminding me of a previous defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: We get he said it, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: comparison Mike Nolan d.
Speaker 6: Kind of an inception of it.
Speaker 4: Is also a first year with a new head coach
Speaker 4: and a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but well, Nolan, I remember correctly. His his issue
Speaker 11: was that he was trying to fit players into his scheme.
Speaker 11: And I'm just wondering, from from your perspective, is he
Speaker 11: Birthless trying to do the same thing or is it
Speaker 11: something else?
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call.
Speaker 4: John, great question, Isaiah, based on what you're seeing, is it?
Speaker 3: Is it there? Again?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 3: Back to that point?
Speaker 5: No, I don't. I don't have a problem with Eberfu's system.
Speaker 3: I don't think I do either.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: It's not the Michael start. I really like Nolan was
Speaker 3: super complex.
Speaker 5: I really do a lot of complexits.
Speaker 8: Listen, there's a lot of if you go back, I
Speaker 8: don't know how many people hout and debt people get, but
Speaker 8: if you go and watch the film and you understand
Speaker 8: defensive concepts and responsibilities based upon coverages and based upon
Speaker 8: the defensive line assignments and how the linebackers are supposed
Speaker 8: to play off of that and everything that that coincides
Speaker 8: that to make a good good defense, you can I
Speaker 8: can see the framework of what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 8: I genuinely can see the frame work, and then you
Speaker 8: could see individuals who are doing their assignments. But then
Speaker 8: you on those same plays that you can circle individuals
Speaker 8: that are doing what's asked of them. You also can
Speaker 8: circle individuals who are not doing what is asked of them.
Speaker 8: And if one person fails to do their job on
Speaker 8: a defense in a scheme.
Speaker 5: It exposes everybody.
Speaker 8: So I don't have a problem with Eberflus's system, and
Speaker 8: I really really will advise people to go watch the
Speaker 8: film and really kind of pull the e break back
Speaker 8: a little bit on their criticism of Eberflus at this time,
Speaker 8: even though it's easy to do.
Speaker 5: So, this is his unit.
Speaker 8: If changes aren't made this week, right, which are Eberflus
Speaker 8: and Shoddy right, And this is a big moment for
Speaker 8: them in terms of culture, and it really in terms
Speaker 8: of the culture that they've been preaching, then I would
Speaker 8: say that the scrutiny is warranted, right, But in terms
Speaker 8: of scheme this guys just aren't doing what's asked of them.
Speaker 8: Literally on the touchdown, we talked about it already, the
Speaker 8: touchdown with the seams, two people didn't do their job.
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson didn't get a jam on the same route
Speaker 8: and Malik Hooker was over there on the opposite hash.
Speaker 8: I don't know what he was doing playing Hookie on
Speaker 8: the opposite side. Those are two guys that failed to
Speaker 8: do their job and exposes everybody. When you go back
Speaker 8: to the touchdown when they were playing Matt Zone and
Speaker 8: who scored back there or DJ Moore. Everybody did their job.
Speaker 8: Malik Hooker did not do his job right. So literally
Speaker 8: everybody else was doing what's asked of them. One person
Speaker 8: did not, So guess what, everybody looks bad. So I'm saying, like,
Speaker 8: understand this that you can have everybody doing what they're
Speaker 8: supposed to do, and if one or two guys decides
Speaker 8: to go rogue, everybody looks bad.
Speaker 5: And who they're gonna point the finger at. Ebra Flus
Speaker 5: isn't doing his job. That's wrong. That's what's wrong.
Speaker 8: It's just these guys aren't being aren't doing what's asked them. Therefore,
Speaker 8: if the changes aren't made in the personnel, then go
Speaker 8: ahead and shoot the messenger.
Speaker 9: That's that's the crux of my issue with ebra Flues
Speaker 9: right now. It's not the system. The players are not
Speaker 9: executing well enough that clue. It starts from the pass rush.
Speaker 9: The lack of pass rush, the lack of the ability.
Speaker 9: It doesn't help, It doesn't help. But then what that
Speaker 9: does is expose even more so the miscommunications on the
Speaker 9: back end, because there's time for those miscommunications to be exploited.
Speaker 9: Because the pass rush is not getting there, so one
Speaker 9: thing makes the other thing worse. Now that is not
Speaker 9: on eber Flus, that that is not schematic for me.
Speaker 1: For me, it's the decision to.
Speaker 9: Samborne over Mayrist someone over Houston, however you want to
Speaker 9: spend it. This is a critical juncture right now. And
Speaker 9: this is why I'm completely with Isaiah. This is a
Speaker 9: critical juncture. We here what you're saying. What you're saying,
Speaker 9: Shady and eber Flus show us that the entitlement is
Speaker 9: not present. You know, Sanborn was with you in Chicago
Speaker 9: and he familiary with the scheme cool. He's struggling through
Speaker 9: these first three games and you have an athletic guy
Speaker 9: and you you're.
Speaker 6: Going he's struggling in the defense.
Speaker 1: He knows yep, to my point, and you haven't authentic him.
Speaker 5: But it's important to.
Speaker 9: The decisions on personnel and that that's to this point,
Speaker 9: that's my main issue.
Speaker 1: And it's fixable and we.
Speaker 5: Have to get out of here. We have to go.
Speaker 8: But if you don't make the changes, trust me, And
Speaker 8: I know I know from being in locker rooms. I
Speaker 8: know from hearing people walking around here. There's already fractures.
Speaker 8: There's already fractures in the locker room that freaking gorilla
Speaker 8: go glue can't fix. If you don't make these changes
Speaker 8: this week, no flex seal because if you don't make
Speaker 8: these changes, guys already have it in their head it
Speaker 8: doesn't matter what I do. That guy still and get
Speaker 8: the first opportunity that's already being set, that's already being set,
Speaker 8: that could be real dang. And if you don't make
Speaker 8: the changes and give these guys the opportunity based upon
Speaker 8: the preachings of your teachings, you will lose the entire club.
Speaker 8: And if you don't believe me, go look at last
Speaker 8: week when people are getting sacked. Go look at last
Speaker 8: week when guys are making plays, and see whether or
Speaker 8: not those guys are being picked up or if they're
Speaker 8: being celebrated.
Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow to turn the page to the
Speaker 4: Green Bay pack game and see exactly what's gonna happen
Speaker 4: with that Dallas defense taking on Jordan Love and the
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers offense. We're gonna look into it and
Speaker 4: see can they make those changes and what changes should
Speaker 4: they make going into that matchup with Green Bay for
Speaker 4: Patrick you know, see Walker, Josh Rodriguez Isaiah stanback, paulp
Speaker 4: but steatus in the back. You what you want answering
Speaker 4: the phone call today, Let's go pee Wall. All right,
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Speaker 4: long from Talking Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow.
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