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Speaker 4: Here you are, Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, live from La

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Speaker 2: What brings you up this weekend out of the beautiful

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's graduation week across the country.

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Speaker 4: Many colleges, many college campuses hosting their graduations.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was invited to one up in the Santa Barbara area,

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Speaker 4: and so yesterday we saw my nephew Ben graduate and

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Speaker 4: I'm super proud of.

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Speaker 3: Him and it was a really fun day.

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Speaker 4: So I spent the show yesterday morning here with the gang,

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Speaker 4: and I'm back here with you today.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was at my daughter's graduation from elly Yello

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Speaker 2: Marymount University yesterday. A couple of very busy days for

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Speaker 2: the Hartman family to say the least in preparation. I

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Speaker 2: feel like, by the way, I spent as much money

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Speaker 2: on her graduation as I did sending her to college

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Speaker 2: for three years.

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Speaker 3: I think we got everything out of this, but worth

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Speaker 3: every penny.

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of my daughter Paris and her graduating class,

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Speaker 2: and you know, just it was great being around these

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Speaker 3: It's a much different world.

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Speaker 2: Now, no question, than when I graduated college one hundred

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 3: So I get it.

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Speaker 2: And but you know, it was just a very celebratory

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Speaker 2: day and very much needed. Now it's it's difficult for

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Speaker 2: me because everyone knows that I don't like to ever

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Speaker 2: be off work. I actually took yesterday off Montsey, by

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Speaker 2: the way, doing an unbelievable job. She did, not just

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Speaker 2: our two hour show, she did a four hour show

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Speaker 2: with Carrie Rose yesterday and then, by the way, she

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Speaker 2: worked all the way until eleven o'clock West Coast time,

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Speaker 2: anchoring the can I bring on Monsey just like right

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Speaker 2: in the beginning here. So Monzie, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 2: You were here from one to eleven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I got here a little early so I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're on the air from one.

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Speaker 6: To eleven, the air from one to five, and then

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Speaker 3: Eleven, and now you're here, and now I'm here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I should have just slept here.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, maybe build a little makeshift.

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Speaker 5: Coming actually literally said that.

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Speaker 6: We were like, we should make one of the back

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Speaker 2: Caught back there, by the way, I've been in a

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Speaker 2: So well, I'm glad you hear, monsieh. And thanks for

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Speaker 3: Of course there you go.

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Speaker 2: So Moncey Belanos in today, no question about that. We

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Speaker 2: got an NBA playoff game going on right now. It's

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Speaker 2: a Game seven, and this is a series between the

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Speaker 2: right now they're down sixteen at home with four minutes

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you could see the sideline right now. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Pretty impressed, Pretty impressed. I did not expect that to

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said that twenty four hours ago. I

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Speaker 4: was pretty much count on Denver to take Game one.

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Speaker 4: That was That was the sensational effort.

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Speaker 3: I got a news for you.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is a downright star and he's proven over

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Speaker 2: these last three playoff games, in which he's combined to

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Speaker 2: score one hundred and nineteen points. In fact, he became

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Speaker 3: He only had guy to do that was a guy

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Speaker 2: I had said before these playoffs, looking at the Western Conference, Richie,

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Speaker 2: We know Denver is because they made a run for

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Speaker 3: Now, again, it was one game.

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Speaker 2: And let's also concede the fact here that the fact

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Speaker 3: They were down a halftime in all five of those games.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Denver is not playing yet the level they

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Speaker 3: And let's see again when you look at if.

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Speaker 2: Edwards does emerge as that superstar player in this postseason

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Speaker 3: This thing done.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes I look at Denver rich and I'm saying, Okay,

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Speaker 3: What else do they have? You have Porter, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's not a team that really overwhelms

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Speaker 2: you in terms of, oh yeah, they just got much

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Speaker 4: I think I could see your argument. Team wise, it's

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Speaker 4: It felt like, okay, well, Denver is on the ropes,

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Speaker 2: When you looked at Denver against the Lakers, what was

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Speaker 3: Denver had size.

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Speaker 3: And then he got rid off the bench.

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Speaker 2: And if he does what he did yesterday sixteen point

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Speaker 3: Coming up here in about eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have John Paul Morossi talking a little Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball. But a lot of people were talking about, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, and again, whatever happens in this Orlando Cleveland game,

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Speaker 3: Boston, I mean the East.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt Boston's coming out of the East with

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Speaker 3: But coming out of.

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Speaker 2: The West, Denver's not a big eyeball team. Last year's

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Speaker 3: People say, well, who wants to.

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Speaker 2: Watch some Minnesota Timberwolves or who wants to watch Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: But you know, he comes out and he has four

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Speaker 7: He is a unique player in baseball because of exactly

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Speaker 7: That tells you something about, first of all, the job

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Speaker 7: I really admire what Mark is doing and it's pretty

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Speaker 4: Morosi joining us Fox Sports Radio. We've never seen a

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Speaker 4: Soto and you have Aaron Judge on the same Yankees team.

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Speaker 4: Max Munsey and show Hey Otani are knocking him out

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Speaker 4: out of the yard at a pace that I guess

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Speaker 4: we could forecast if they stay this hot, you could

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Speaker 4: see potentially is this record gonna fall anytime soon?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Could this potentially be the year it could be?

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Speaker 7: And and I do like the moncy Otani mentioned, and

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Speaker 7: I do think Judge's power is going to pick up

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Speaker 7: as the year goes along. But if anyone's going to

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Speaker 7: do it, I think the Dodgers might have the best chance.

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Speaker 7: I know it's a harder ballpark to rack up huge

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Speaker 7: home run numbers in, but of course eighty one games

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Speaker 7: on the road. And the thing that I remember hearing

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Speaker 7: about regarding Otani in the off season was that with

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Speaker 7: his focus solely on offense this year, that he was

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Speaker 7: going to make a run at the Triple Crown, because

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Speaker 7: it's probably the one year when he can really do that,

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Speaker 7: when he can make that run because of course he's

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Speaker 7: not pitching and having that day where he's only focused

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Speaker 7: on the mound. So I like that suggestion that I've heard,

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Speaker 7: and I'm going to go all in and say, Otani

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Speaker 7: having a chance to have a career ien homers, maybe

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Speaker 7: make a run at the Triple Crown, this is the

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Speaker 7: year for him to do that, and let's see if

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Speaker 7: maybe months he can join him and the two Dodger

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Speaker 7: teammates can make a run of fifty together.

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Speaker 2: One last question, because I like to pick out players

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Speaker 2: that we never think about, but a seemingly journeyman pitcher

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Speaker 2: for the Philadelphia Phillies is pitching lights out right now,

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Speaker 2: Schwarz right now, six and oho and seven starts in

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Speaker 2: the area one, seven to two.

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Speaker 3: This guy's never.

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Speaker 2: Had a higher strikeout to walk ratio than like two

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Speaker 2: and a half to one.

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Speaker 3: He's at seven to one.

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Speaker 2: What the hell has happened with this lefty where he

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Speaker 2: suddenly looks like Sandy kofax Well Rangers.

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Speaker 7: Fat is for me. I like him a lot. He's

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Speaker 7: always been a very good athlete. He defends this position

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Speaker 7: very very well. And you're right, he's off to an

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Speaker 7: amazing start the standard And I know it's just the

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Speaker 7: quick comparison that comes to mind. Great Venezuela and left handers,

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Speaker 7: obviously a great changeup Santana. Santana comes to mind a

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Speaker 7: little bit just in terms of the way that he

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Speaker 7: carries himself and his athleticism reminds me a bit of

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Speaker 7: you on and it's a huge compliment for me. You

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Speaker 7: look at the Phillies. He talk so much about the

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Speaker 7: Braves in that division, and the Braves probably still have

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Speaker 7: the most talented roster. But Zach Wheeler's put together one

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Speaker 7: of the best seasons for any pitcher in baseball, and

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Speaker 7: now you have Rangers Swatez as well, and I just

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Speaker 7: think that he is to me swat As when you

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Speaker 7: combine him now with Wheeler and Nola, you talk about

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Speaker 7: a team that could be very good in a short

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Speaker 7: series against the Braves. And let's remember that's been part

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Speaker 7: of the storyline the last couple of years, is that

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Speaker 7: the Braves the better regular season team, but the Phillies

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Speaker 7: have found a way to have success in October, and

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Speaker 7: so that for me, it's maybe been a little bit

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Speaker 7: more consistent in terms of how he's located the baseball Steve,

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Speaker 7: but I've always loved his athleticism and don't be surprised

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Speaker 7: if you see Rangers swat As an All Star this

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Speaker 7: season in beautiful Arlington, Texas at the Midsummer Classic.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Phillies do have the best record in

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Speaker 2: baseball as we speak.

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Speaker 3: All right, Javi, we covered some new ground today.

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Speaker 2: Which I like to do every single set Sunday when

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Speaker 2: we have a chance to talk to the great John

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi. Have a great week and we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: JP.

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Speaker 7: That's great. I love the conversations as always, and we're

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Speaker 7: ninety minutes away from puck drop round two of the

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Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playoffs. The Rangers and the Hurricanes and MSc.

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Speaker 7: How about MSG this week. It's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 7: of fun. You got Rangers. Nick's going on good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great stuff is always there.

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Speaker 2: He is the great John Paul Morosi, and of course

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Speaker 2: the Rangers trying to buck at trend in the NHL.

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Speaker 2: He actually had the best record in the NHL regular season,

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Speaker 2: trying to actually win a Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 3: Yause, normally you.

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Speaker 2: Have the best record in the regular season, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: go belly up once we get into the postseason play Let's.

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Speaker 3: Find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 2: We welcome back here on officially now Moncey Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Moncey Sports Radio. Yeah, I mean reading for us here

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Speaker 3: at Fox.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't have a terrible ring. I'm into it. What's

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Speaker 5: trending is fire JB. As in JB.

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Speaker 6: Bickerstaff, the coach of the Cavaliers. Wow, fans are not happy.

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Speaker 6: The Cavaliers hosting the Orlando Magic Game seven Eastern Conference

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Speaker 6: first Round in the NBA, and the Magic.

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Speaker 5: At halftime are on top by ten fifty three to

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Speaker 5: forty eight.

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Speaker 6: They were up by eighteen at one point, and then

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Speaker 6: Cleveland made a little run headed into halftime, but again

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Speaker 6: the Magic still up by ten. Paolo Bencaro twenty four

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Speaker 6: points leading all scorers. Donovan Mitchell fifteen points leading Cleveland,

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Speaker 6: but he is three of thirteen from the field, So

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Speaker 6: we have a lot to.

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Speaker 5: Look forward to in this next half.

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Speaker 6: In baseball, the Rockies are on top of the Pirates,

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Speaker 6: three zero, bottom of the fourth. Aaron Judge all Rise

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Speaker 6: home run number seven on the season. The Yankees are

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Speaker 6: beating the Tigers to zero bottom of the fourth, Angels

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Speaker 6: up on the Guardians win zero bottom of the fourth. Oh,

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Speaker 6: the Mets and the Rays are tied. The Mets were up,

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Speaker 6: then the Rays. Now they're tied in Tampa Bay at

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Speaker 6: three apiece bottom of the third. White Sox just scored

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Speaker 6: there on top of the Cardinals, win zero, bottom of

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Speaker 6: the second. Little NFL news, JJ Waugh spoke yesterday at

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Speaker 6: a softball charity game that he is hosting annually, I

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Speaker 6: Guess in Houston, and he talked about retirement, and he

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Speaker 6: said that he told Amiko Ryans last year.

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Speaker 5: Last year, don't call me unless you absolutely need me.

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Speaker 5: If you do call me, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 6: And he said that this is gonna that he's gonna

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Speaker 6: te him the same thing for this year, and that

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Speaker 6: he's gonna keep training because he's been training. So Dolnico

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Speaker 6: Ryans calls him, he will go.

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Speaker 5: Is what he's saying.

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Speaker 4: Break glass in case of emergency.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's my prediction.

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Speaker 2: If JJ Watt comes back, the first guy he's going

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Speaker 2: to line up against is Rich Ornberger. Oh god, I'd

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Speaker 2: say the comeback of those two guys is on the

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Speaker 2: same level.

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Speaker 4: Highly unlikely, yeah, highly Guess what. I haven't kept training.

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Speaker 3: I haven't I kept training.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate, I hate to burst your bubble, but

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Speaker 4: it is not well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you were training with your eats here with

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Speaker 2: a little taco bell.

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Speaker 4: H well right, yeah, the burrito that Monci she gave

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Speaker 4: to me this morning, Thank you, Monci.

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Speaker 3: I devoured that very quickly. I have no problem doing that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to be able to.

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Speaker 4: Handle devouring a defensive lineman on his Sunday. That would

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Speaker 4: take a whole different level of effort. Although I would

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Speaker 4: be just if he was out of brash. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you saw how fast I got that.

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Speaker 6: I.

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Speaker 2: Monci very good stuff, Jez. Thank you, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Just to remind you about the end of JJ Watts's career. Now,

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Speaker 2: in his last season in twenty twenty two, he played

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Speaker 2: all sixteen games, not only started sixteen games, miraculous, had

584
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Speaker 2: twelve and a half sacks. The problem is, in four

585
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Speaker 2: of the previous six years he played three games, five games,

586
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Speaker 2: eight games, and seven games, he had all kinds of injuries.

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Speaker 2: After that historic five season start of his career, which

588
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Speaker 2: was enough just there to propel him into the Hall

589
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Speaker 2: of Fame, let me ask about another guy that keeps

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Speaker 2: hinting about a comeback, and that would be Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: So rich the Raiders at number thirteen in the draft,

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks had run off the board, I mean six

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the first twelve picks. I think they made

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Speaker 2: a great pick in Brock Powers because he was the

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Speaker 2: best player on the board at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: If you're just.

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Speaker 2: Saying, who's the best talent on the board at thirteen.

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Speaker 3: They picked the right guy. It was Brock Powers.

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Speaker 2: He is that kind of special tight end and I

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Speaker 2: think they will love that pick for many, many years

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Speaker 2: to come. But under any circumstance, can you see your

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Speaker 2: former teammate. By the way, I'm still a little upset

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Speaker 2: about the Dynasty documentary about your former team.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: That you are not all over that in terms of

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Speaker 2: interviews and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I don't. They really missed an

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Speaker 3: opportunity there.

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Speaker 2: Could you see any way Tom Brady returning to the

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Speaker 2: field in a Raiders uniform as the quarterback of a

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Speaker 2: tea team that he will have some level of ownership

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Speaker 2: in Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yes to the first part of the question, No to

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Speaker 4: the second part. The owners will not allow a player

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Speaker 4: with an ownership stake to play in.

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Speaker 3: The league because so he'd have to forego y.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's no chance he can be a minority

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Speaker 4: owner in any franchise and play for any franchise. Conflict

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Speaker 4: of interest if he plays for a different franchise, and

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Speaker 4: also a conflict of interest for ownership if they allow

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Speaker 4: a player to have any ownership stake. Because this is

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Speaker 4: this has been long discussed as a potential negotiation ploy

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Speaker 4: if you want to keep a quarterback happy with his

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Speaker 4: contract by giving him, you know, a little taste of

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Speaker 4: the team. Hey, Listen, we know we can't pay up

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Speaker 4: front with all this money, but maybe we'll give you

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Speaker 4: a fraction of a percent of ownership of our team

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Speaker 4: and you can hold onto that for years and years

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Speaker 4: to come, and it's just like a long term investment strategy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, they're not interested in doing that with players,

633
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Speaker 4: and they don't want to. They don't want to go

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Speaker 4: down that slippery They're not doing it for Tom Brady.

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00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: They're not going to do it for anybody. So yes,

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Speaker 4: your first part of the question. And here's why Tom

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Speaker 4: Brady is addicted to football. And I do describe it

638
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Speaker 4: as an addiction, and it's the same addiction that Andy

639
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Speaker 4: Reid has. It's the same addiction that Bill Belichick has.

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Speaker 4: Nothing matters more to you than the conquest, Nothing matters

641
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Speaker 4: more to you than victory. Nothing matters more to you

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Speaker 4: than the sport. Think about some of the personal lives

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Speaker 4: of the people I was just discussing, Bill Belichick hasn't

644
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Speaker 4: been the easiest road. You know, divorced and you know,

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Speaker 4: and relationship with a long term girlfriend that ended recently.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady, that you see what happens with you know,

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Speaker 4: the personal life there, and I understand that might be

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Speaker 4: a different situation because that was such a high profile

649
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Speaker 4: marriage with him and Jaselle Bunch. And but they're sacrifices.

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid, Andy Reid, I mean, if you look around,

651
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Speaker 4: I mean tragedy. He has followed Andy Reid in his

652
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Speaker 4: family life along the way, he's had tremendous amounts of success.

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Speaker 4: Guess what that happens with other addicts. You know, if

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Speaker 4: it's if it's not football and it's say it's drugs,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it can be equally devastating.

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Speaker 3: But addiction is a real thing.

657
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Speaker 4: And I do think to have the level of success

658
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: that some of these greats have, you have to be addicted.

659
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Speaker 3: To the game. Tom Brady is.

660
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Speaker 4: And I think if he's given an opportunity to come

661
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Speaker 4: back and he feels like it's a good opportunity for him,

662
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Speaker 4: he will be back playing.

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Speaker 3: Football one hundred percent. Agree with you. I mean, let

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Speaker 3: let's I want to give you.

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Speaker 2: I give you a stat that we rarely talk about,

666
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Speaker 2: but it's an important stat in terms of whether or

667
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Speaker 2: not Tom Brady after taking one year off could come back.

668
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: So in his last two years in Tampa, in both

669
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Speaker 2: of those years he led the league in both pass

670
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Speaker 2: attempts and pass completions.

671
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Speaker 3: But here's the stat that goes along with that.

672
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Speaker 2: Despite leading the league both years and pass attempts well

673
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: over seven hundred attempts both years, he also led the

674
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: league in FEWUS sacks per pass attempt so they actually

675
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: had the stat sacks per attempt and he led the

676
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: league in that category both years despite having more pass

677
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Speaker 2: attempts than any quarterback in the league.

678
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Speaker 3: So what does that mean? He knows how to stay

679
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Speaker 3: out of trouble.

680
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: Remember this, he had the season ending injury game one

681
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Speaker 2: of the two thousand and eight season, coming off the

682
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: undefeated year beforefore.

683
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Speaker 3: They lost the Super Bowl of the Giants.

684
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Speaker 2: That is the only year he has ever missed the

685
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: start because of injury. Ever, the only other games he

686
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: missed were, of course, of the deflate gate four game

687
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: suspension at the start of the twenty sixteen season. He

688
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: never got hurt. Now, it asn't means he doesn't get

689
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: hurt hurt, I'm just talking about season ending kind en

690
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: of injuries. So no quarterback has got an IQ of

691
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Speaker 2: that level in terms of finding a way to so

692
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: because it is a survival game in the NFL, So

693
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Speaker 2: I don't have any question that physically he would be

694
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Speaker 2: capable of doing it. And you talk about incentive izeed

695
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Speaker 2: just taking a year off, which after you played twenty

696
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: plus years has got to be an adjustment of this.

697
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Speaker 2: You're like, well, what about the thirty eight million dollars

698
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: a year, you know, being a broadcaster, tom Brady's got

699
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: plenty of money.

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Speaker 3: It's not about the money.

701
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: He's got more money than the next ten generations could

702
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Speaker 2: possibly spend.

703
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Speaker 3: It's not about that. I one hundred percent agree with you.

704
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Speaker 2: This is a guy that wants to get back on

705
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: the field, and he might have if he relinquishes any

706
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: kind of ownership control, which he would have to do

707
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Speaker 2: by the by laws of the NFL. I think it

708
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: would be a great situation for him. You have DeVante Adams,

709
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: you now have brock Bowers. It's not a terrible team.

710
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: They got some defensive players. Are they good enough to

711
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: compete against the Chiefs?

712
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: No? But I'm sure Tom Brady would love the opportunity. Yeah. Yeah,

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: And here's the reality of the situation.

714
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Speaker 4: In matchups in the postseason, tom Brady has edge over

715
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. There's a mystique that he one hundred percent

716
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Speaker 4: backs up when you face Tom Brady led teams because

717
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: he's clutch when the breaks are beating the teams that

718
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Speaker 4: he plays for. I mean, no better example than the

719
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Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcon Super Bowl loss to the Patriots and the

720
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: comeback that the Patriots had in that game, manufactured by

721
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Speaker 4: the unrelenting belief from Tom Brady that they will win

722
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: that football game. You have to have a special type

723
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Speaker 4: of character to see your way through so many comeback

724
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Speaker 4: victories that Tom Brady has. And look, many of the

725
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Speaker 4: teams that he's played for also have been dominant and

726
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Speaker 4: it's difficult to do both. It's difficult to be a

727
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 4: great come from behind quarterback and also be able to

728
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Speaker 4: play the part as the dominant bully on the schoo yard.

729
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Speaker 3: But he's able to do both as a quarterback. Will

730
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Speaker 3: it happened?

731
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: Maybe not? Probably not? Could it happen? One hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: All right? Coming out?

733
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: But then the other side. Changes sometimes are necessary and

734
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: sometimes they're not in order to be a winner. Well,

735
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Speaker 2: explain this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Honberger,

736
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Well, it happens for well, when you

738
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Speaker 2: think about it, there's only one winner, one champion in

739
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: each sport every year, so everybody has to go back

740
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Speaker 2: to the drawing board.

741
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Speaker 3: You didn't win a championship.

742
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Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, that's what it's about, right, you want

743
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: to win a championship. You assume some ownership groups you

744
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: have to question their commitment to winning championships. But in theory,

745
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: the idea in a team sport is to win a championship,

746
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: and since only one team wins, everybody else has to

747
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: figure out, all right, what do we have to do

748
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: to win? And more often than not, if teams underperform,

749
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: they immediately look at the manager of the co coach

750
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: and say, well, you didn't get the job done.

751
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Speaker 3: I want to.

752
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Speaker 2: Before it because we're going to get much more into

753
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: this coming up in the next hour, because we're up

754
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: against them at the top of the hour, and I

755
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: would just want to get back to where we are

756
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: in professional sports in twenty twenty four, and just a

757
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: general overviews, you're not just specifying any one specific sport,

758
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: but the amount of money these players are making, these

759
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: athletes are making these days is obviously far different than

760
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 2: it was ten, fifteen, twenty years ago.

761
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Speaker 3: And so with money comes power. We know that.

762
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Speaker 2: And I just questioned again when we talk about the

763
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Speaker 2: influence of managers and coaches in twenty twenty four, I mean,

764
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Speaker 2: even going back when you began your professional career fifteen

765
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Speaker 2: years agoep, how different it is for coaches back in

766
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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine as to where we are today

767
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Speaker 2: in terms of their impact on the ultimate success of teams.

768
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Speaker 3: In all sports, in all leagues.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look no further than college athletics to see

770
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Speaker 4: how much the landscape scape has shifted. You look at

771
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Speaker 4: college athletics. I'm saying that because this is in all sports.

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Speaker 4: It's not just the profit or revenue generating sports like

773
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Speaker 4: basketball and football. I'm talking about all sports. You have

774
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Speaker 4: to be the number one job. You have to be

775
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Speaker 4: as a great fundraiser.

776
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Speaker 3: That's it.

777
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: You have to be able to show up every day

778
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Speaker 4: and get a bunch of people who have a lot

779
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Speaker 4: of money in their pockets to spend it on your program,

780
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Speaker 4: on your athletes, to lure athletes from other programs, to

781
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Speaker 4: be convincing enough to the people with real cachet and

782
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: real dollars to back your sports department. And if you don't,

783
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: they'll find somebody who can. That is job number one

784
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Speaker 4: of every single basketball, football, rowing, gymnastics, soccer, whatever sport

785
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Speaker 4: you coach in college.

786
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Speaker 3: In college, that is the number one goal.

787
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Speaker 2: Now just think back to I mean, I've been doing

788
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Speaker 2: this business for a long time, and so we've gone

789
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: through this hundreds of times. You know, you gotta fire

790
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: that coach, gotta fire that manager, not getting it done.

791
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: Too many losses, and I'm just wondering now whether the

792
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Speaker 2: change really even matters anymore.

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Speaker 3: We're getting symbolic heavy exactly.

794
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: In other words, it's symbolic to your fan base, right,

795
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: like they're screaming. Look, when you do local sports talk radio,

796
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: as both of us have done for years, you know

797
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: what it is.

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00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: If the team is.

799
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Speaker 2: Underperformed, fire the manager, fire the coach. He's not getting

800
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Speaker 2: in the job. But I'm just thinking to myself, Okay,

801
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: well that's that's so, that's like the easy out.

802
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: And does it solve any problem? Does it? Exactly?

803
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Does it actually solve any problems when you have players

804
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: controlling essentially what's happening on the court anyway, and by

805
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: the way, they always have I mean, when when you

806
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: lose a one point basketball game and your star player

807
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: getting ready for the final shot, dribbles the ball off

808
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: his foot and it goes out abound to end the game.

809
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 3: Is that on the coach? Seriously? Is that on the coach?

810
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Speaker 2: So coming up in the next hour, we're gonna examine

811
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Speaker 2: a few NBA teams that have now been eliminated from

812
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs, not just one. We got several teams that

813
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: have some interesting decisions to make getting ready for the

814
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Speaker 2: next season. Plus we'll keep you update on what's going on.

815
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Speaker 2: It's tied now Cleveland and Orlando. Who'll advance in the playoffs?

816
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Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along

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Speaker 2: here on another busy sports Sunday. Fox Sports Sunday broadcasting

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Speaker 3: Calves and Magic.

824
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: Tied at sixty eight right now, Game seven, and now

825
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: the Calves have taken the lead. Streuss just hit a

826
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: three point shot right there with two minutes to go

827
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Speaker 2: on the third. So after being in a deep hole

828
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Speaker 2: early in this game. Cleveland has now taken the lead

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Speaker 2: seventy one sixty eight. Of course, the winner of this

830
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Speaker 2: series gets the golden opportunity to take on the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 3: In the next round of the playoffs, which will be

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Speaker 3: not good.

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Speaker 2: No, no, actually, dude, they does Boston play Indiana?

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Speaker 3: Who they have the winner at? Wait? Is it the

835
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Speaker 3: lowest seed? Hang on, I'll check. Let let's find out

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Speaker 3: from bo.

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Speaker 8: Ben Boston plays the winner of the series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not like they reseed. No, it's it's

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Speaker 2: the three six. Yeah, because Indiana obviously was the sixth

840
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Speaker 2: seed beating the three seed Milwaukee.

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: So they're playing the two seed, the Knicks.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why Boston can just go ahead and print

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Speaker 8: out theref to.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, it's it's a moot point on the

845
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: eastern side, but on the west. Uh, it's going to

846
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: be a very interesting mix. Maverick's obviously getting probably the Clippers.

847
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: They will take on OKC. And of course we already

848
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: have this series that started last night with a big

849
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: Timberwolves upset on the road against the defending champion Denver Nuggets.

850
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Now there's a couple of teams that we are not

851
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: talking about because their season is over. And what's interesting

852
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: about the direction of both of these underachieving teams loaded

853
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: with superstar talent is the direction they're going with their coaches.

854
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: But one team's already made a decision about their coach,

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Speaker 2: and that's the Lakers. Darvin Ham was fired. Now, I

856
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: was talking to Bo about this because you know, Bo's

857
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: a big Lakers guy, and he and I are on

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Speaker 2: the same page on this. Why I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this one, Richie. So I know a

860
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Speaker 2: lot of people seem upset about this firing, saying, well,

861
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Speaker 2: then they're calling out Lebron James that you know, understand

862
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: this about Darvin Ham? Why the Lakers hired Darvin Ham

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Speaker 2: in the first place. Sure, Darvin Ham was a completely

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: anonymous player who became a longtime assistant coach with the

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks organization.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 2: And what Darvin Ham was was a very valuable assistant

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Speaker 2: because what he brought to the table, and I think

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00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: every team needs one of these type of assistants, is

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Speaker 2: that he was a locker room guy.

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Speaker 3: Right. He was the guy, glue guy. Yeah, he was the.

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Speaker 2: Guy if things get a little chippy, in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: which is inevitable that he could smooth things over.

874
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: That was Darvin Ham's role with the Milwaukee Bucks.

875
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: Former player, right, you know, he can walk into any situation,

876
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 4: he can meet people where they are, He can walk

877
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 4: people through solutions that have worked in the past that

878
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: he's witnessed.

879
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: Because see with.

880
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: His demeanor, right, It's demeanor is low key, very bright man.

881
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: He knows how to analyze the personalities in that locker room, ye,

882
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: and bring.

883
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: A little calm. That's that's what he did with the

884
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks.

885
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: That's great if you're an assistant coach, and I would

886
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: say every coaching staff needs that kind of guy on

887
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: their staff.

888
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: But as a head coach, you've got to make game decisions.

889
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: And this was not Darvin Ham's game in terms of timeouts,

890
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: in terms of substitutions, in terms of personnel on the court.

891
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: At the same time, he fell short in that. And

892
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: so the idea that I mean when I read a

893
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: headline that says Darvin Ham, who led the Lakers to

894
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: back to back postseason runs, is fired, I'm like, okay,

895
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 2: zero championships. Not every franchise has the same bar set.

896
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't forget too. One of the main reasons he

897
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 8: landed the job in the first place is because he

898
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 8: told Genie and Rob Polinka that he could make Russell

899
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 8: Westbrook work with the roster they had.

900
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Right he was and he was confident that I know

901
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: how to get through to these players. Well, that didn't

902
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: fly for very long. The fact is he lost that

903
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: locker room. And now people are conceding the fact from

904
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: like February on of this season, they'd already tuned out.

905
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: I mean the early decisions to bench Hotchamura for Torrian Prints,

906
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: to bench Austin Reeves for Cam Reddish. I mean there

907
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: was one decision after another. You had all five starters

908
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: returning from a team that had just gotten unexpectedly to

909
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: the Western Conference finals, and then you decide to tinker

910
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: with the lineup. And by the time you did put

911
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: the five guys back in the lineup and they actually

912
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: got on a run late in the season. That was

913
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: the difference between being in the play in tournament and

914
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: maybe being a four seed in the West. It was

915
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: only like a five game difference if you had played

916
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: those guys from the get go, which is what I

917
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: would imagine the Lakers expected when you extended the contract

918
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: a Rezi extended the contract of Hatchamurrow.

919
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: All right, we got our five man starting lineup.

920
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 8: I think the best story to come out of the

921
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 8: Darvenham stuff was IM, sorry Montci, but talking about that

922
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 8: game against the Clippers where they were down twenty something

923
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 8: points and they came back within five and just started

924
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 8: ignoring Darvin Ham and just running their own plays out

925
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 8: there and came back to win that game.

926
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: But what I want to go with, I want to

927
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: cut to the chase here though, I because I've been

928
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: thinking about this for a long time, because we've had

929
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: a long time to think about it, and I was

930
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: thinking about it before.

931
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: Obviously anybody who's been paying close attention.

932
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: To what's been happening this season, and you know, working

933
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: weekends with Bo being a Lakers Sam, We've talked about

934
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: the issues with the Lakers for a long time, and

935
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: it really did feel like the inevitable was going to

936
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: happen if the Lakers got knocked out anything short of

937
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: a championship. Darvin Ham was losing his job because he

938
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: was going to be scapegoated with the blame for the

939
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: lack of success this season. Lebron James fired Darvin Ham.

940
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: Let's make this very clear. If Lebron James wanted Darvin

941
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 4: Ham to be the head coach of the Lakers, Darvin

942
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 4: Ham would still be the head coach.

943
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: Of the Lakers, right. That's the end of this story.

944
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: The Lakers, in signing Lebron James to the contract they

945
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: signed him to, and also by the way, in wanting

946
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: him back, which they've made known publicly before the end

947
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 4: of the season, gives him all of the chips, gives

948
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: him ultimately all the leverage. I mean, shoot, his son

949
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: isn't really good enough to be a starter in college basketball,

950
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: and they're talking about potentially drafting him or signing him

951
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: as an undrafted free agent. They will bend over backwards

952
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 4: to a piece Lebron James because they realize their only

953
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: hope at a championship anytime soon is through Lebron James.

954
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: And the fact that there's such an incredible financial success

955
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: most importantly, because it's a business first, is because of

956
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 4: Lebron James.

957
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: So make no mistake about this. If Lebron James wanted

958
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Darvin Ham to be as head coach, whatever you want

959
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: to say about rotations or substitutions or game planning or anything.

960
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: If he just liked them, if he was like, yeah,

961
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: he's not the best coach, but I like that dude,

962
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: he would still be the head coach of the Lakers.

963
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: So say whatever you want about his intelligence, about you know,

964
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: his ability to navigate, you know, personalities, or the only

965
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: criteria that you need to pass in order to be

966
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: the Lakers at coach is does Lebron like you or

967
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: doesn't he And if he doesn't like you in that role,

968
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: you are no longer going to be the Lakers at coach.

969
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: And that is exactly what happened here.

970
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: All Right.

971
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: This is going to be difficult for me because I

972
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: consider Jeanie Buss a friend. She's been very good to

973
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: me and I have supported her. But the numbers do

974
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: not lie in her eleven full seasons as the owner

975
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: of the Lakers, the principal owner of the Lakers after

976
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: her father's passing. In those eleven seasons, the Lakers have

977
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: flat out missed the playoffs seven times and have had

978
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: two first round exits. That's nine of the eleven years.

979
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: The other two years with the run to the Western

980
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Conference Finals last year and their bubble win for the

981
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: championship in twenty twenty. That's her legacy for twenty years.

982
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: Her record as an owner is one hundred and fifty

983
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: nine games below five hundred, So her decision making has

984
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: been horrific. Her blind loyalty to certain people has been bad.

985
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: But you brought up the big point. They're making money

986
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: hand over fistyep, And so the Lakers today have a

987
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: far greater value than they had when Jerry Buss died.

988
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: So this always gets back to a question that I

989
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: never had when Doctor Buss was the owner of the Lakers,

990
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: because his commitment to winning was unwavering. He knew, if

991
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: we win, everything else will be good. But we got

992
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: to win, and I got to put people in seats

993
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: that know what they're doing in order for us to win.

994
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: And that's how they won ten championships with him as

995
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: an owner.

996
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 4: And I will say this with Genie though, she made

997
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: one really good decision because looks even though you are

998
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: relinquishing a lot of control to Lebron James, you're also

999
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: you've signed one of the most successful Lakers in recent history.

1000
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: He's participated in three hundred and forty nine games, he's

1001
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: won two hundred and four of those games, So he's

1002
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: got a to your point.

1003
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: Overall, she has won championship in six years. I get it.

1004
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: But he has a five to eighty five winning percentage,

1005
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 4: which isn't amazing, but it is better than her overall

1006
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: record as an owner.

1007
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: Well it's better than before he arrived.

1008
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 4: The best winning years of her time as the sole

1009
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 4: owner of the Lakers have been with Lebron James.

1010
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna throw some things at you as

1011
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: far as the Lakers are concerned. In fact, we'll do

1012
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 2: it on the other side when we get a little

1013
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: more time.

1014
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: Because.

1015
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, he fired Darvinham. Yeah, I get that, all right,

1016
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: that's always the easy thing. Fire the coach. All right,

1017
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: so you fired the coach. Now what we'll break it

1018
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: down on the other side. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1019
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, rich Ronberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

1020
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: from the Tireack dot Com studios. All right, updating this

1021
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: game seven between the Orlando Magic and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1022
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 3: And right now we're in a time out.

1023
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 2: It is eighty one seventy four calves with eight minutes

1024
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter.

1025
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: So again the Magic had.

1026
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: A double digit lead early in this game, but Donovan

1027
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: Mitchell got off to a very rough start. Rich has

1028
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: suddenly come to life in a big way. Thirty five

1029
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: points for Donovan Mitchell. So if this keeps up the

1030
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 2: Calves in a series and again which the home team

1031
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: has won every single game, if the Cavs win, that

1032
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: will hold up for all seven games, and the reward

1033
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: for the Cavs will be a matchup against the bust

1034
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: and Celtics.

1035
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that feels like going into a buzzsaw a little bit,

1036
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: a little bit, but hey, look, this is the playoffs

1037
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: and unfortunately for i would say undermanned teams going against

1038
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: more of a juggernaut. The fact that these games are

1039
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: played over seven get or should say these series are

1040
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: played over seven games. It really does give the ultimate

1041
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: edge to the better seeded team, the more talented team. However,

1042
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: we've seen teams rise from the basement of the playoff

1043
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: bracket to the finals.

1044
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: The heat that's a perfect example since this play on

1045
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: play in bracket emerged. That's a playing team who appeared

1046
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: to represent the East in the finals. So it can happen.

1047
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: It can happen. But the way the Celtics lose.

1048
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: And again you had that loss against the Heat in

1049
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: Game two where the Heat just shot lights out in Boston,

1050
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: and yep, after that it was blowout, blowout, blow out.

1051
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: Of course, problem is for the Heat, Jimmy Butler was

1052
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: watching the game. So we'll see what happens round but again,

1053
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: Cavs leading the Magic eighty one seventy four eight minutes

1054
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter of that game. We're

1055
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: talking about the Lakers next move after firing Darvin Ham.

1056
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: The easy part, just get rid of the coach. Let's

1057
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: start with the coaching change, all right. So Darvin Ham,

1058
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: as we mentioned before, had never been a head coach

1059
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

1060
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: He had been a respected, longtime assistant coach, known as

1061
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 3: a locker room guy.

1062
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: Again, every coaching staff needs one of those kind of guys.

1063
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of guys that know x'es

1064
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: and o's blah blah blah blah blah.

1065
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: But who's going to.

1066
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, handle that locker room And that's what

1067
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham did.

1068
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: Make no mistake about it.

1069
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: Whether Darvin Ham gets another head coaching job, he'll be

1070
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: a coach in this league for a long long time.

1071
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: It should be. He's a valuable assistant at the very least.

1072
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about the next coach. One guy,

1073
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: it appears it will not be is ty Lou or

1074
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: would it be, So let's examine.

1075
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you in the seat of tylu right now.

1076
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: Sure, So, as soon as the Lakers fired Darvin Ham,

1077
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: the Clippers, who were still at that point alive in

1078
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: their series against the Mavericks. Obviously Friday that ended, but

1079
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: they were talking about, yeah, we're working on an extension.

1080
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: The key word there is that we're working on an extension.

1081
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: As of right now, he hasn't agreed to an extension.

1082
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you two options. If you're

1083
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: ty Lou. So Tyler were one of the respected coaches

1084
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: in this league won an NBA Championship with the Cavaliers,

1085
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: beating a seventy three win Golden State Warriors team down

1086
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: three to one in that series. Here are your choices.

1087
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: If you're ty Lou, okay, you can stay with the Clippers.

1088
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: Now.

1089
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: Their current situation is thus they have Kawhi Leonard on

1090
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: a contract for two more years, Paul George has a

1091
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: player option for fifty one million, and Mike and James

1092
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: Harden as a walk away free agent.

1093
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: Those are your big three.

1094
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 2: So you have a problem here because as we saw

1095
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 2: so when Kawhi Leonard was not really able to ever

1096
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: play in this series against Dallas at the level we

1097
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: know Kawhi Leonard is capable of, it was up to

1098
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: Paul George and James Harden to step up their game,

1099
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 2: and they failed miserably over the last couple of games.

1100
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 2: And by the way, that is sort of the track

1101
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: record for both these players. They both had great careers,

1102
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: but in the postseason their numbers dropped significantly, unlike by

1103
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: the way, Kawhi Leonard, who's the opposite, He's one of

1104
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 2: those guys that has performed great.

1105
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: When he's been healthy in the postseason.

1106
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: So that's option one, sign an extension, stay with that team,

1107
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: try to keep that nucleus together and hope for different results.

1108
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: Or you could say thanks, but no thanks. Let's see

1109
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: what the Lakers have to offer, all right, So the

1110
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: Lakers have this to offer. You have Anthony Davis under contract,

1111
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: Hotcha murra Reves are under contract. You have Lebron James

1112
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: making a decision whether to stay or not.

1113
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Player option.

1114
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would love to have ty Lewis as

1115
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: coach because they want a championship together and they have

1116
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: a history together. And then of course you have to

1117
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: make a decision on D'Angel Russell. I don't think Dangel

1118
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: Russell stays with the Lakers. If he decides to plick

1119
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: up his player option, I think he will be traded.

1120
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: I think they would look to get a different direction there.

1121
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: So those year two choices for ty Lou stay with

1122
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: the Clippers or opt out of a deal with the

1123
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: hopes that you could be in the next coach of

1124
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Which one is more attractive to you.

1125
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: I would want certainty that it would be the next

1126
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: Lakers head coach if I was going to opt out. Now, guys,

1127
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: that's tampering. So you're not allowed to do that in

1128
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 4: the NBA. And we know NBA teams don't tamper.

1129
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 2: There's no tampering in the NBA or any sport. There's

1130
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: no such thing as tampa.

1131
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: In fact, the only times it has been discovered, those

1132
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: teams were fined.

1133
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 3: Heavily, yes, and they learn their lessons.

1134
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 4: No team who has ever tampered is ever re tampered,

1135
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: because it is that discipline is heavy handed.

1136
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 2: And so are you saying that agents never talk behind

1137
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: the scenes, because I remember coaches have agents cycling No no, no, never.

1138
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: Have Steve stop stop. I won't hear of it.

1139
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: So there's no tampering in terms of Tylo's agent even

1140
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: listening to a whisper coming out of the Lakers organization,

1141
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: a team that's looking for a next edit.

1142
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear whispers. All right, I

1143
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: don't even want to hear whispers. But here it is.

1144
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: What I'm talking about is if I'm Tylo, the certainty

1145
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: I'm talking about is, like you know, it's just that,

1146
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: like you know that feeling in your heart that you

1147
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: know that if you opt out of this multimillion dollar

1148
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 4: deal in the second largest media market in the country,

1149
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: with all stars all over your roster, regardless of their

1150
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: contract situation, that you will not have to move an

1151
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: upper your family and you could just literally park your

1152
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: car in the same exact space you've been parking your

1153
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: car in at Crypto dot Com arena every day and

1154
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 4: you just coach the other team, Like I just want

1155
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: to know in my heart that that is going to

1156
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 4: come true, Like if I wish on a star the

1157
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 4: night that I opt out of my Clippers deal, that

1158
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: the Lakers will hand me paperwork to sign. So that's

1159
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: a certain tam just a free time, Farius, nothing tampering,

1160
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 4: No way, no way, Jose.

1161
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, now you're not moving down the hall because the

1162
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: Clippers are moving into their new arena.

1163
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: Well but he he hasn't. He hasn't moved yet and

1164
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: he may not.

1165
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's what I'm talking about.

1166
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: Wish okay, just wish upon a star.

1167
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: That aside, because we can tamper all we want where

1168
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: we're sitting. If you're ty loo, go on, what is

1169
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: the more attractive situations?

1170
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: It's the Lakers by far. It's a lak and and

1171
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 4: here's the reason why. It's a known quantity you've had

1172
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: success with in the past. Inarguably, if you tie yourself

1173
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: to Lebron James, you're tying yourself. You're grabbing the tail

1174
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: of a dragon and you're going for a ride, and

1175
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna sort of great heights, and there's gonna be

1176
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 4: devastation along the way. There always is, and you may

1177
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 4: get shaken from the tail at a certain point.

1178
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: But so what so, what so has everybody else Frank.

1179
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: Do you think Frank Vogel is looking back on his

1180
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: time as a Lakers head coach, grabbing the tail that dragon,

1181
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: winning the Bubble Championship and parlaying that success into coaching,

1182
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: continuing his head coaching career in the NBA, you think

1183
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: he's regretting the decision to latch on to Lebron James.

1184
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: There is absolutely not.

1185
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: If you can get an opportunity in the waning years

1186
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: of Lebron's career to be his head coach, go and

1187
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: do it. So yeah, absolutely, it's a more appealing job

1188
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: unless the Clippers know that tylu has been in his

1189
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: backyard looking up at the stars, wishing upon stars, and

1190
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: they offer him a boatload of money that.

1191
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: He absolutely cannot walk away from.

1192
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: Well, he has the richest own in the leg by

1193
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: leap years. I mean, there is no limit to what

1194
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: Steve Bomber can put on the table.

1195
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: So no limit.

1196
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: So use this moment, you know where you say to

1197
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: Steve Bomber, you say, listen, we're not tampering. I'm just

1198
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: letting you know that I've been wishing upon a and

1199
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 4: if you don't give me an unbelievable amount of money,

1200
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to just I'm just going to bet my

1201
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 4: bottom dollar that that star grants me my wish.

1202
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: Well, if he was saying, well how much you want,

1203
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: he goes, I want to be the highest paid coach

1204
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: in any sport. Ever, no, I want I want twenty

1205
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars year you're paying.

1206
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: I mean, think about the Paul George situation.

1207
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: If you're the Clippers, so he has a player option

1208
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: for fifty one million, and Steve Bombers seems completely committed. Again,

1209
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: you gave up everything, including shake Gilgess Alexander, in order

1210
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: to get Paul George. Right, but if you're going to

1211
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: extend his deal, if you look at the new extensions,

1212
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: now we're into the sixty million.

1213
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: Dollars a year category.

1214
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: Are you going to pay Paul George sixty million a

1215
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: year extending his deal for a guy that doesn't show

1216
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: up on the postseason?

1217
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,959
Speaker 3: What's money between friends? Exactly? Right, honestly. Okay, So.

1218
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, First of all, the

1219
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: thing about ty Lou is tyl you just doesn't make

1220
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: sense for Lebron. He makes sense for the entire team.

1221
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: So the guy walks in with proving credentials, but there

1222
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: are other names out there. I'm like, what are you

1223
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: talking about? That doesn't make any sense. You might make

1224
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: one guy happy, but everybody else is.

1225
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: Like, what the f is going on around here?

1226
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to that, but first, let's find out

1227
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: what is trending right now now. Monsie Chorus is a

1228
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: well documented die hard Clippers fan.

1229
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: How do you feel about TYLERU?

1230
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 5: I like Tyl, I else love Tyler.

1231
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: You just said, like, but don't.

1232
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 5: I don't hate him either.

1233
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 6: I just I kind of just want to start over,

1234
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 6: but I know that's not going to happen.

1235
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: Still haven't used the love word you said, hmmm, I.

1236
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: Don't think, you know. Before game two I maybe would

1237
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: have said love.

1238
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 6: But the fact that he put in Kawhi Leonard game

1239
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 6: two is where I'm.

1240
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 5: Like, that was not the right choice. So I'm still fresh.

1241
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: Often so, if Kawhi Leonard had never played in the series,

1242
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: and this she's basing on obviously the Clippers blowout winning

1243
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: Game one.

1244
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, without Kawhi. If he had never.

1245
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: Shown up in this series, do you think the Clippers

1246
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: would have won the series?

1247
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 6: I want to say yes, obviously that's you know, who knows,

1248
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think we were in a groove in

1249
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 6: a momentum, and I think he was the wrench that

1250
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 6: kind of just changed everything up, unfortunately. But I do

1251
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 6: like Tyler. I don't want him to leave. I don't

1252
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 6: think he's going to. I think we're running it all

1253
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 6: back and that's just what's going to happen the next

1254
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 6: two three years.

1255
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: I do you expect a different outcome?

1256
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: Can we ever see Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs like

1257
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: we saw him in Toronto in twenty nineteen?

1258
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: You know, is that ever gonna happen?

1259
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 6: It seems like that's something that we may never get

1260
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 6: to see again. His knee is a degenerative issue at

1261
01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 6: this point.

1262
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard, you do understand even if you are you

1263
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: gonna re sign James Harden, I.

1264
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 6: Really think he is. I think we are running it back.

1265
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that's the right choice. I just am

1266
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 6: telling you what.

1267
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: I think is gonna have that duo sound to you,

1268
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: Paul George and James Harden are.

1269
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: They're going to run it back for the next two

1270
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 6: years because of Coawi's extensions to scream championship to.

1271
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 4: You, I really don't think they have a choice, right

1272
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: I mean they're.

1273
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 3: Opening a new venue.

1274
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 4: I mean they're outside of a potential coaching change, which

1275
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 4: may not be their choice. I don't I don't really

1276
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 4: think that you have a choice to get cute with

1277
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 4: this roster because you need some star power to help

1278
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 4: sell you some tickets at this new arena that Steve

1279
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: Balmer has dumped a tremendous amount of money into. Now

1280
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: the arena obviously is gonna fill for other dates too.

1281
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 4: You're gonna have concerts and it's gonna be one of

1282
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: the best new.

1283
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 3: Cases, going to be packed. Yeah yeah, well but that

1284
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: but this gets back to the Lakers.

1285
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: The Lakers are making money hand over fist or they

1286
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: win championship or not. And with that new arena, new

1287
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: toy in town, oh forget it.

1288
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I agree with Mancia.

1289
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 4: I don't see very many roster changes like big, splashy

1290
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,959
Speaker 4: roster moves.

1291
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: Coming for the Clippers.

1292
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 4: I think in a time of flux, you want consistency somewhere.

1293
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: And that's the other reason why I think Tylu some

1294
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 4: of the reporting we're seeing around Tyloo and the Lakers,

1295
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: I think about who who benefits the most from this reporting?

1296
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: Ty Lou obvious, Yeah, because.

1297
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: Then he can put the screws to the Clippers say hey,

1298
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 4: if you want consistency, you better pay me a lot

1299
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: of money. Because I don't know if you know this,

1300
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 4: but we are separated by one thin wall. On the

1301
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 4: other side as a franchise who wants me to coach

1302
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: their basketball team, who just fired Darvin Ham. So I

1303
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: don't think there's gonna be a lot of changes with

1304
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: the Clippers.

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 5: I don't.

1306
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 6: And what's annoying is I actually don't think we need

1307
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 6: these names into it because in reality, we're not getting

1308
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 6: new fans. The fans have been around, yeah since before

1309
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 6: the Beard says, you know, we're not getting new fans

1310
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 6: because of them. It's not like we pulled somebody from

1311
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 6: the Lakers.

1312
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 5: It's fan base. So that's that's what's silly about it.

1313
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 6: But that's been the idea, Oh, we're gonna bring in

1314
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 6: and you know, this.

1315
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 4: Reminds me of when the Warriors they moved into their

1316
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 4: new home in San Francisco. Now, don't get me wrong,

1317
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 4: the first year they probably saw new faces in the

1318
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 4: crowd and they were the worst team in the league

1319
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: that year. By the way, your fan base is your famise.

1320
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 4: They didn't make any roster changes. It wasn't like all

1321
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 4: of a sudden We're like they're breaking up the Beatles. Yeah,

1322
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 4: you know, no, I think I think with so much

1323
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: change in the organization, I do think they're going to

1324
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: stick with their roster as it says, yes for the

1325
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 4: most part.

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01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: That's what I think as well.

1327
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 6: All Right, fellas, We're down to the final four minutes

1328
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 6: in Cleveland in this game, seven winner go home for

1329
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 6: the Calves or the Magic.

1330
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 5: The Calves were down at by ten at halftime.

1331
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 6: They outscored the Magic in the third quarter thirty three

1332
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 6: to fifteen.

1333
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: They are on top. Ninety two.

1334
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 6: Eighty five is the score. Three minutes and like forty

1335
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 6: seconds ish to go. Paolo Vanco had a great first half.

1336
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 6: The defense has held him in the second half. He's

1337
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 6: missed free throws, he's missed some tough shots, but he's

1338
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,919
Speaker 6: got thirty six points. Donovan Mitchell has thirty seven points.

1339
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 6: He came alive in the second half. In baseball, a

1340
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 6: tie game in the Bronx between the Yankees and Tigers

1341
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 6: tied a to a piece bottom of the seventh. The

1342
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 6: Pirates have taken the lead over the Rockies five to three.

1343
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 6: Top of the eighth, a tie game after a long

1344
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 6: rain delay in Washington between the Blue Jays and the Nationals,

1345
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 6: tied at one a piece. Top of the second, Guardians

1346
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 6: on top of the Angels two to one. They're about

1347
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 6: to start the eighth inning. It's been back and forth

1348
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 6: between the Mets and the Rays in Tampa. Now New

1349
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 6: York on top, five to four. Top of the six,

1350
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 6: the Red Sox beating the Twins, who have won twelve

1351
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 6: in a row. So Minnesota trying to make it thirteen,

1352
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 6: but right now they're down three to one.

1353
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 5: Top of the six.

1354
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 6: The Mariners blanking the Astros in Houston to zero. Top

1355
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 6: of the fifth. They shut them out last night, and

1356
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 6: the White Sox and Cardinals are tied at one a

1357
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 6: piece bottom of the sixth.

1358
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Hi Montsi, thank you Jay very much.

1359
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: All Right, once again we are talking a little bit

1360
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: about next moves. You know, the easiest thing for any

1361
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: team to do is just to fire a coach or

1362
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: a manager and say, ah, now now we're going to

1363
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: be on the winning track with the new so We

1364
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: talked about ty Loo as a very logical pick for

1365
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: the Lakers if he should decide to lead the Clippers organization.

1366
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: First of all, he used to play for the Lakers.

1367
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: He coached Lebron James, and he brings credibility to anybody

1368
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: else in that locker room because of what he has

1369
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: accomplished as a head coach in this league. Then you

1370
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 2: hear the name of JJ Reddick, and I'm like, okay,

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: let me get this straight. So Reddick, And by the way,

1372
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: I should preface this by staying, I have total disdain

1373
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 2: for anyone that played a duke.

1374
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to kid like you. Well, you just

1375
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: hate the guy because he went to do it. Yeah,

1376
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: I do. But I mean, let's let's put that aside

1377
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: for a moment. Okay.

1378
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick co hosts a podcast to Lebron YEP.

1379
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: So they have a relationship. They have a friendship.

1380
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: And word on the street is if they were to

1381
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: bring in JJ Reddick, who's never coached anything in his life,

1382
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: that they would have a veteran assistant staff, you know,

1383
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: with guys that maybe have had some head coaching, And

1384
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: then my attitude about that would be all right, Well,

1385
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: if the only reason that you're hiring JJ Reddick is

1386
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: because he has a friendship with Lebron James, then why

1387
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: don't you skip over Reddick and just make Lebron the

1388
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: player coach. Now we all seem to agree, and it's

1389
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 2: not just with the Lakers. Wherever he has been, Lebron

1390
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: James has had the kind of cashe as a player

1391
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: well earned, and I call him the goat because I

1392
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: believe he is the goat to have that kind of, say,

1393
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,959
Speaker 2: an input in the direction of an organization. But why

1394
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: are we playing around with this? I mean, if if

1395
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: you believe the reports that pretty much the Lakers tuned

1396
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: out Darvinham during the regular season and just decided we're

1397
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: going to take control of this team from this point

1398
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: going on, why are you bringing in some figurehead coach?

1399
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: Because JJ Reddick would be nothing more than that. He

1400
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: would be simply some kind of figurehead wearing a suit

1401
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: or whatever he wants to wear on the sidelines.

1402
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 4: But what is Darvin Ham? What is Frank Fogel? Are

1403
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 4: these guys the reasons why the Lakers are going to

1404
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 4: win championships?

1405
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: Answers, No, But they at least had some coaching background

1406
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 3: their figureheads too. Look that's my point at all.

1407
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: Then why bother with it? Just going to just make

1408
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: Lebron your coach. Well, and by the way, there's been

1409
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: a lot of examples of coaches Bill Russell's last two

1410
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 2: n I'm not doing Celtics.

1411
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: He won a championship.

1412
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 4: So the reason why the Lakers have a coach instead

1413
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: of Lebron James being a player coach is because Lebron

1414
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 4: James probably doesn't want to be a player coach. Otherwise,

1415
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 4: I'm fairly certain if he went to Genie Buss and said,

1416
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 4: for the first time since Bill Russell has done it

1417
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 4: with the Celtics, I want to be the NBA's first

1418
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 4: player coach, I'm pretty sure she would say yes, and

1419
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 4: they would use it as a great marketing experience for

1420
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: the LA Lakers. I don't think there's any doubt in

1421
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 4: my mind as a matter of fact, that she would

1422
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 4: say yes. But I don't think he wants to do that.

1423
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: I think he wants somebody there. It's a little bit

1424
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: of operation human shield. Why do these leagues have commissioners,

1425
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball, of the NFL,

1426
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,799
Speaker 4: It's because the owners don't want to address the general

1427
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: public when things are going wrong. They want someone else

1428
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 4: to take the slings and arrows for them. So that's

1429
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 4: the reason why Roger Goodell is catching forty five million

1430
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: dollar checks.

1431
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 3: But every single.

1432
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: Year of a team which you're still taking the slings

1433
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: and arrow Yeah, but not as much as you would

1434
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: if you were the star of the team and the

1435
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: head coach, because now you're wearing two hats that people

1436
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 2: think carry equal weight, and they don't. But people think

1437
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: that that's the reason why the bloodlust that things need

1438
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: to change. This shall not stand a first round bounce

1439
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: from the team that swept us in the Western Conference

1440
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: finals last year. Have we not improved at all? Get

1441
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: rid of Darvin Ham? And they do, and then the

1442
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: fan base goes, thank you. That's the blood that say

1443
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: shates thine thirst, Like this is so performative, this is

1444
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: so symbolic.

1445
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: It's just they're just doing so. It's a sacrificial lamb.

1446
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 4: Killing the lamb doesn't do anything to appease the gods,

1447
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 4: but it calms the people down. That's why Darvin Ham

1448
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: is out of a job. And by the way, if

1449
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 4: Lebron liked Darvin Ham, he'd still have a job, regardless

1450
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: of the negative pr It's Lebron's team, so they're gonna

1451
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: hire whoever Lebron tells them to hire. If it's JJ Reddick,

1452
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 4: guess what they're gonna hire d JJ Reddick. If it's

1453
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 4: Tylu and they want to steal him from the crosstown rival,

1454
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Tylu. But it's gonna come down to

1455
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:50,520
Speaker 4: whatever Lebron James tells them to do, because their success

1456
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: right now is tied to number twenty three in an

1457
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 4: LA Lakers jersey, and they know it, and he's he

1458
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 4: can put the screws to them anytime he wants.

1459
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: By the way, the last time we've seen a player

1460
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: coach in the NBA was back in the seventy eight

1461
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: seventy nine season. Day Cowns, the Hall of Fame Center

1462
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: of the Celtics did not have the same success that

1463
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: Bill Russell had as a player coach center winning two championships.

1464
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: That's the last time that has happened. All right, Let's

1465
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: let's say, okay, fine, whether you hired Tyler or whoever

1466
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: is your new head coach, is the makeup of this

1467
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 2: team championship worthy. On the other side, I want to

1468
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: break this time. I want to get Bow into this

1469
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: as well, because bo is knee deep into the Lakers.

1470
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: But as this team is constructed, and again Ada is

1471
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: under contract, Hotchimurra's under contract, Reeves is under contract. Lebron's

1472
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: got the player option, so does D'Angelo Russell. Is his

1473
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,759
Speaker 2: team as constructed a championship team?

1474
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: Well, answer to that.

1475
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, rich Ronberger, Fox

1476
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the ti Iraq doc

1477
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: Com Studios. It's a holiday today, you know, Sinco to Mayo?

1478
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: That's right, And.

1479
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: For years I used to do my broadcast. Do you

1480
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: guys familiar with Pancho's restaurant down in Manhattan Beach?

1481
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: Anybody here? I was in there before. Yeah, yeah, I

1482
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 3: had a buddy who used to live there, and yeah,

1483
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: I went to Panchos for years.

1484
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: If Cinco de Mayo fell during the work week, always

1485
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: did our broadcast from Ponchos Okay at multiple stations. By

1486
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: the way, Cinco to Mayo have any significance for anybody here?

1487
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: Anybody monci Bo, Chris Ritchie, I mean, is there a

1488
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: significance to the Sinco de Mayo?

1489
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: I celebrate every year.

1490
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 4: I love holidays that I mean, listen, I I don't

1491
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 4: have a major attachment to Valentine's Day or to Cinco

1492
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 4: de Mayo, or to Mother's Day, Father's Day in like

1493
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: in terms of like, those are those are holidays that

1494
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 4: either have been absconded with or have been created as

1495
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 4: a merchandising exchange, correct, right, which which great because you

1496
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm I'm a consumer like I and so

1497
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 4: you know what my plan is today. I'm gonna be

1498
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 4: eating a whole lot of Mexian food and having some

1499
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: servass most Okay.

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: See I had a little Now, So manci Cenko de

1501
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: Mayo for you.

1502
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: Is the tequila lover that you are?

1503
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1504
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: Do you do an extra shot on Sina Demayo? I

1505
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 3: mean I.

1506
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 6: Don't need an extra reason to have another shot, if

1507
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 6: I'm being really honest with you. But yeah, no, Like

1508
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 6: my bestie literally was like Margarita's because it's.

1509
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 3: It's good to my I am.

1510
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 4: I am I making frozen Margarita's as soon as I

1511
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 4: walked through the doors of my Yeah. Well, actually I

1512
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 4: would have used the word definitely, but that yes, yes,

1513
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 4: I am.

1514
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: Bo Chris, either one of you taking advantage of sort

1515
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: of a license to kill aspect of Cinco de Mayo.

1516
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 9: So I've been drinking a lot more rum recently. But

1517
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 9: I will have to break out the bottle of the

1518
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 9: quila and see what I can mix up with it.

1519
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, I have in my fridge is Japanese beer.

1520
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: So Japanese beer too. Like nothing says happy sink to than.

1521
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: Does anybody like salt on the rim of an ice

1522
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: cold beer mug?

1523
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh well with a little.

1524
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I could be convinced you want

1525
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: to pour me a medello with a with a little lime.

1526
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 3: Yesterday?

1527
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: I actually had a margariti yesterday celebrating part of the

1528
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: graduation Sarahmiva.

1529
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: But it was it was on the rocks. Sometimes I

1530
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: like that a little bit differently, all.

1531
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 2: Right, all right, well for everybody out there, enjoy your

1532
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: sinko to my holiday, that is for sure safely, safely obviously.

1533
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: All right.

1534
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: So let's uh, let's get into the personnel of the Lakers.

1535
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: I want to show a hands here in studio, how

1536
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: many believe that this Laker roster, if they should bring

1537
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 2: it back intact, meaning you return Lebron James and you

1538
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: return D'Angelo Russell, that this team is good enough as

1539
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: is to win the NBA championship. Rich says, yes, anybody

1540
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: else Bo's given it, yes, sort.

1541
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: Of a wavering yes.

1542
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 8: I I think so.

1543
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Chris, what do you think good enough to win an

1544
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: NBA championship? The current makeup of the Laker roster is

1545
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,440
Speaker 2: it good enough to win the NBA championship?

1546
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 8: M I don't see it. That sounds like it's getting.

1547
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: Long in the tooth. And Moncy absolutely not.

1548
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 5: Fan, I'm not even saying the Clipper.

1549
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 6: It's just the Lakers in comparison to a lot of

1550
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 6: the younger teams, they look slow.

1551
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: Slow and small.

1552
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: And now I guess we're talking against Denver, they looked

1553
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 2: really small, and then all of a sudden, Denver is

1554
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: playing the big boys in Minnesota would go bear and

1555
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, Carl Anthony Towns, and all of a sudden

1556
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: they don't look so dominant inside. All right, let's go

1557
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: back to you both for a second. Then you say

1558
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: they're good enough to win a championship. But I know

1559
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: I talked to you earlier that if D'Angelo Russell exercises

1560
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: his option to return to the Lakers, in your opinion,

1561
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: D'Angel Russell has played his last game as a Laker.

1562
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's getting traded if he opts in.

1563
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so what do you replace? What do you want

1564
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 3: at the point guard?

1565
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: Po?

1566
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 6: Is it?

1567
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 4: God?

1568
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 8: I don't know they're gonna They're gonna try to get

1569
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 8: Trey Young, and I don't really want that at all.

1570
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 5: I don't think that Ron still wants.

1571
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 8: The Lakers are in a The Lakers are in a

1572
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 8: tough spot because they have to build a team that

1573
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 8: contends now, but also worry about the next three years

1574
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 8: where Lebron leaves, because I think Trey Young and Anthony

1575
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 8: Davis as a duo is fine, Yeah, but you have

1576
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 8: to add in Lebron, and as Rich was saying, Steph Curry,

1577
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 8: I don't think.

1578
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that will materialized.

1579
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 8: It's I think this could be an interesting summer in

1580
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 8: the NBA.

1581
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 3: To be honest, I do too.

1582
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: Look the reason why I bring up Steph Curry and

1583
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: the Golden State Warriors in relationship to the Lakers. I

1584
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: don't know if there's gonna be a trade where you know,

1585
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: he comes over to LAM I doubt it. But here's

1586
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 4: what I will say is did anybody expect the Golden

1587
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: State Warriors to win in twenty twenty two?

1588
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 6: No?

1589
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 8: I think I think if any team has a shut window,

1590
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 8: it's the Golden State Warriors right now now.

1591
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: But even in twenty twenty, our buddy Mark Willard, yes

1592
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: up here, I was working at our station at that time.

1593
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: He gave them no chance that year.

1594
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: He's a Bay Area guy to the core, and through

1595
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: that entire run to the championship, he kept saying, it's

1596
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: not happening, not happening, not happening, not happening.

1597
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: And it happened.

1598
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 4: But yeah, they found a way. Look they here's the thing. Now,

1599
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: I do think their window is slam shut. I agree

1600
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 4: with bo there that assessment. But I look at the

1601
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: Lakers this upcoming season kind of the same way I

1602
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 4: look at the Golden State Warriors. This is really the windows,

1603
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: the windows slamming shot on the Lakers soon.

1604
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it has yet.

1605
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 4: And I think when you have a special player like

1606
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 4: Lebron James, who's proven this season he can still perform

1607
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 4: an All Star level, the flame has not flickered out yet.

1608
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: He still stays in incredible shape. He's has a lot

1609
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: in as ever, I think he wants to add to

1610
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 4: his legacy. I think it's possible that the Lakers can

1611
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 4: do what they aim to do this season next season

1612
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 4: with a majority of the same pieces in place.

1613
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 8: The thing for me is that, like the Lakers had

1614
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 8: the best player on the floor in the Nuggets series,

1615
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 8: and Anthony Davis was the best player on the floor

1616
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 8: in all those games, they just didn't have the supporting

1617
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 8: cast aroun him that the Nuggets.

1618
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 4: Shit, they couldn't hit threes, well, they couldn't hit perimeters,

1619
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 4: they couldn't spread the floor exactly.

1620
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a tie breaker. Heres to two right, So

1621
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: Chris and Montsio one direction, you and Bo go the other.

1622
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna side with you and bow I agree.

1623
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: I think the Lakers again, they led all five games

1624
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: of the series against emver at halftime, all five games,

1625
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: and whether you agree or disagree with the firing of

1626
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham, he mismanaged the end of those games many

1627
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: many times when you have a consistent pattern of losing

1628
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: games that you should be able to win in the

1629
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. My only question moving ahead, obviously, with Lebron

1630
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis, those two guys combined only missed seventeen

1631
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: games this year, seventeen games playing.

1632
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 3: At an all NBA level. Is that gonna happen again.

1633
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: Is Anthony Davis gonna have another seventy six game season

1634
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: when he's usually in the sixties. And the difference there

1635
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: is your seeding. There's a much different when you have

1636
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 2: home court advantage, at least in the first round of

1637
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs. It makes a huge difference in your chance

1638
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: to win a championship. All Right, We got much more

1639
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: coming up, including a sneak peek of whats leias.

1640
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, there's always NFL news.

1641
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday having fun as we do

1642
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1649
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: So we are now set as far as the second

1650
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: round of the NBA Playoffs are concerned. We had one

1651
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: more game to play today, and that, of course Game

1652
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 2: seven between the Cavs and the Magic, and the Cavs

1653
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: down early, came back to win.

1654
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: This one one oh six to ninety four.

1655
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: So the Cavaliers will now move on to take on

1656
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics. So we're down to the final eight

1657
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,879
Speaker 2: in this endless NBA plays.

1658
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: Think about this. A few months from now, we're gonna

1659
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,480
Speaker 3: be back. Yeah.

1660
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: I want to just get this out of the way,

1661
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: because I mentioned it every single time. If the NBA

1662
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: wanted to help out the cause in terms of viewership

1663
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: of their NBA finals, I would take the entire season

1664
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: instead of October to June. It's December to August. Think

1665
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: about it, if the NBA playoffs or at the end

1666
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: of August NFL season hasn't started yet, dog days of

1667
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 2: summer in baseball, it's the.

1668
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 3: Perfect time you would be.

1669
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: You literally would have nothing to worry about. You would

1670
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: absolutely have complete domination of the ratings. And instead of

1671
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: starting your year in the middle of the football season,

1672
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: you started on Christmas Day at the towards the end

1673
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: of the NBA NFL season. December to August, not October

1674
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: to June makes sense for the NBA.

1675
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, the summer should belong to the NBA instead. Yes,

1676
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 4: I mean, it really does feel like the spring is

1677
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 4: shared by Major League Baseball and the NBA, And then

1678
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 4: people get excited for Baseball's All Star break as the

1679
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 4: NBA is closed.

1680
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 3: It's weird.

1681
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: Imagine August is a dead month, right, you got sure,

1682
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: you got preseason, we get ready for the NFL season,

1683
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: but it's not the regular season, no, okay, and it

1684
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: just it makes sense, all right, Okay, I think about that.

1685
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little NFL football right now.

1686
01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: You know, the drafts over. But also there's there's always

1687
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: weird stories at this time, right, So we have the

1688
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,839
Speaker 2: mini camps coming up, we have OTAs coming up, and

1689
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 2: uh and by the way, are these even necessary anymore?

1690
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: More often than not? And you know this, rich a

1691
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: lot of these coaches actually cut these OTAs and mini camps.

1692
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 3: Sure, oh yeah, yeah yeah. They just call them.

1693
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: They're there for a couple of days, just sort of

1694
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: see everybody, and they're really not doing anything.

1695
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah though, well here's what not like it used to be.

1696
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 4: Essentially are it's to have an appointment on the calendar

1697
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 4: of your players who don't train in your facility.

1698
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: It's almost like a wellness check.

1699
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, you know, you poke them, you Hey,

1700
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 4: come on into town. We want we want to just

1701
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 4: make sure you haven't gotten super fat and super out

1702
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: of shape, or you haven't you know, gotten into you

1703
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: know the drugs, are the alcohol too much or you know,

1704
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 4: we just want to see all of you. We want

1705
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 4: a couple days where we all you know meet up

1706
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 4: in the same building.

1707
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 2: How talk, Are they going to be off after this though,

1708
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: after you get to the mini camps and the OTAs.

1709
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 3: How long?

1710
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 4: Well, there's about a month off, so month, full month, Yeah,

1711
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 4: for about damage can be done in a month. And

1712
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 4: every year there is a story of report that comes

1713
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 4: out of some place that somebody got into trouble. And

1714
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 4: and look, that's the reality of the NFL. You got

1715
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 4: a lot of bodies to worry about. If you're a

1716
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 4: head coach in an NFL of an NFL team at

1717
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,440
Speaker 4: this point in your season, you have one hundred players

1718
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 4: that you have to keep tabs on. So of course

1719
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 4: there's going to be landmarks, milestone's benchmarks on the calendar

1720
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 4: during the offseason where you're requiring players to show up,

1721
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 4: show their faces, to talk a little ball, make sure

1722
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 4: they haven't gone off the deep end in any way,

1723
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: shape or form, and then let them get back to

1724
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 4: their training and their life as it stands. In the offseason,

1725
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: it's not all that important anything that goes on during

1726
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 4: the OTAs other than just wellness check. It's just to

1727
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 4: make sure everybody is doing what they're supposed to be

1728
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 4: doing for their career.

1729
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:06,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. With players.

1730
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: There are certain plays you always can count on to

1731
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 2: be in shape, and there are other players.

1732
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 3: That you know you got to watch out for.

1733
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 4: Oh, trust me, and some of that is built into

1734
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 4: the language of their contracts.

1735
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. But there was a player for the Raiders back

1736
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: in the day.

1737
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: This guy had over one hundred sacks in his NFL career,

1738
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: a couple of Row Bowls and one of my absolute

1739
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: favorite people that I worked with, and his name was

1740
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: Greg Townsend. Great defensive end for the Raiders for a

1741
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: number of years, and Greg was sort of an undersized guy,

1742
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: great speed, always fit and everything else.

1743
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 3: He shows up at camp and all of a sudden,

1744
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 3: you're like, what happened?

1745
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like he packed on like I mean, I

1746
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 2: don't know how much weight, but it was so noticeable.

1747
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. And we're like look at him, like,

1748
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: what did you eat? And he goes, have you tried

1749
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 3: potato skins? Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

1750
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: He is any potato skins like they were corn chips,

1751
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: and he goes, you got to put everything in them?

1752
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bacon, yeah, sour cream.

1753
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if Richard Chimberger was to really prepare the

1754
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 2: most decadent, tasteful potato.

1755
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: Skin, wow, wow you really? Yeah?

1756
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: I mean and you remember when they were like the

1757
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: rage at all the bars and everything else.

1758
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 4: No, I mean, it's got to be a fully loaded

1759
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 4: potato skin. You gotta whatever, wetter butter, sour cream, obvious,

1760
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: chi schudar, cheese, make a mixture, bacon, yeah, yeah, stallions.

1761
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: Or genius, plenty of cheese.

1762
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 4: Look, the point is, the point is like, could I

1763
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 4: see myself gaining thirty to forty pounds on potato skins

1764
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: alone in an offseason? Yeah, And that's the reason why

1765
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 4: you need to have these OTA's. What's interesting about OTAs

1766
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 4: is sometimes, and this is the truth, with every team,

1767
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 4: there's a coach, or there's a couple of coaches on staff,

1768
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 4: or even a head coach who's going to get too

1769
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 4: cute and start overthinking things. And I think that may

1770
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 4: have accidentally slipped out because Jalen Warren, who's a backup

1771
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 4: running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously Najee Harris takes

1772
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 4: the majority of the reps, but he's like a seven hundred,

1773
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 4: eight hundred yard.

1774
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: Back for the Steelers, and he's good. He's a good

1775
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: off speed pitch.

1776
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 4: Tiny little guy, he's like five foot seven, you know,

1777
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 4: one of those one hundred and eighty five pound guys,

1778
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 4: but he's a good change up pitch for the Steelers

1779
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 4: out of their offensive backfield. He jumps on Cam Hayward's

1780
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: podcast and he mentions the fact that the special teams

1781
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: coordinator in Pittsburgh is toying around with the idea of

1782
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 4: Justin Fields taking snaps as a punt or kick returner

1783
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 4: in the NFL this upcoming season. So Justin Fields goes

1784
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 4: from being a first round draft pick with the Chicago

1785
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 4: Bears and starting with them for a couple of years

1786
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 4: before the trade rumors Caleb william draft picks, all that

1787
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 4: stuff comes out last season and he's unceremoniously traded to

1788
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers before they trade for also Russell Wilson

1789
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: in this offseason. So he's going to be a backup

1790
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 4: quarterback in Pittsburgh to start the twenty twenty four season,

1791
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, they're talking about him.

1792
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 3: As a returner.

1793
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 4: If I'm Justin Field's agent, as soon as I hear

1794
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: this information, I am getting on the phone first with

1795
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 4: Justin and I'm saying, hey, Bud, is there any validity

1796
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 4: to this at all? That they're asking you to be

1797
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 4: a returner? And maybe Justin goes I know there's kind

1798
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 4: of a joke at first, but they're seriously considering it,

1799
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 4: and you know, geez, I don't know.

1800
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: I'll catch a couple of punts.

1801
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 4: My next words out of my mouth are, if you

1802
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 4: return a single kicker punt at practice, I am you

1803
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 4: are not showing up the next day. There is no

1804
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 4: way that you are becoming a returner in the NFL.

1805
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: Do you have any idea how detrimental this is going

1806
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 4: to be to your long term earning? Potential Special teamers

1807
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 4: in the NFL do not get paid hundreds of millions

1808
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 4: of dollars on their contracts now. Granted, Justin Fields may

1809
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 4: never get a contract like that again, but trust me

1810
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 4: when I tell you, if you keep your name out

1811
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 4: there as a quarterback, there's potential. See Geno Smith with

1812
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 4: the Seahawks two years ago. See Baker Mayfield with the

1813
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Buccaneers this offseason.

1814
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

1815
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't work out at the first place, and

1816
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 4: maybe it doesn't even work out at the next place,

1817
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 4: and maybe it doesn't even work out at the third place.

1818
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Like Baker Mayfield, who is a first overall.

1819
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 4: Draft pick and a started with Cleveland before bouncing around

1820
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 4: to Carolina and then bouncing around to la and then

1821
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 4: he goes to the Buccaneers and he's just gonna be

1822
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 4: a bridge quarterback for Kyle Trask. And then he signs

1823
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 4: a three year, one hundred million dollar contract with fifty

1824
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 4: mil up front. You want to make Justin Fields a returner.

1825
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 4: My client needs to be traded.

1826
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I understand where you come from, rich

1827
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: and I disagree, And I'll say, let me, let me

1828
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: explain this to you. And by the way, fifty years ago,

1829
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 2: a guy named Joe thisman, Joe, that Joe, thisman who

1830
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,480
Speaker 2: would later become an NFL MVP with the Washington Redskins.

1831
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: After his career Notre Dame, he was drafted fourth round

1832
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: by the Dolphins. Couldn't come to a contract situation. In

1833
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: those days, the Canadian Football League was a viable option.

1834
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: He went up to the Toronto Argonauts, played three years,

1835
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: played really well, so now the NFL had interest. The

1836
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Redskins acquired the draft rights to him and they signed him. Well,

1837
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: the problem was they already had two well established quarterbacks

1838
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: on the team and Sonny Jurgensen and Billy Kilmer.

1839
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 3: But Joe thisman, and I've talked to Joe about this.

1840
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm in studio about his rookie season with the Redskins.

1841
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 2: So he's like the third string quarterback. But you know,

1842
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: he was excited to finally get into the NFL. He

1843
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: wanted to help the team. So they said, all right, Joe,

1844
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 2: tell you what. We're gonna make you our punt returner.

1845
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, he wasn't just some like token

1846
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 2: punt returner. He actually averaged over ten yards of return,

1847
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 2: so it was something he actually could do well. It

1848
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: was the only year he did it. Now, let's go

1849
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 2: fifty years later now to justin Fields. If you're justin

1850
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Fields and you're sitting there right now as the backup

1851
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: to Russell Wilson, Okay, and you may be projected me

1852
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: to the quarterback of the future, but you want to

1853
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 2: prove your commitment to this organization. I may not help

1854
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 2: you right now as a quarterback. Maybe my day will

1855
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: come down the road. But I want to do more

1856
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: than just hold a clipboard and wait for Russell Wilson

1857
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: to go down with an injury. I want to prove

1858
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: to my teammates about my commitment to this organization and

1859
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: if I can help my team returning punts or returning kicks. Now,

1860
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 2: the kicks are interesting because obviously we're gonna have this

1861
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 2: whole new kickoff return rule. We'll see how that plays

1862
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: out before you throw a quarterback out there. But I

1863
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 2: think that would be the mentality for Justin Fields. Ultimately,

1864
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: the organization said, under no circumstance or we're gonna have

1865
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Justin Field's returning punts. But for his standpoint, if he

1866
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: comes to them and say, look, if you feel like

1867
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: this is some way I can contribute.

1868
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 10: To this team, no no, no, no telling no no

1869
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 10: no no, no, no, no no no, Because guess what,

1870
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 10: you're backing up a thirty five year old starter who's

1871
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 10: had two he's coming off of two years that have

1872
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 10: been kind of bumpy rides for him in Denver, and

1873
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 10: now he is joining the team.

1874
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 4: By the way, about a month after you joined the team,

1875
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 4: so you have a little bit of a head start

1876
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 4: if you're using that time wisely to learn the playbook

1877
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 4: and talk to coaches and doing all those things, ingratiate

1878
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 4: yourself to some of the players and reports around the

1879
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 4: building in Pittsburgh is people love justin fields. So you

1880
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 4: have to go out there and you have to kindly

1881
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 4: as you can. If the Pittsburgh Steelers are mulling this idea, say,

1882
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 4: you know, coach, with all due respect, and I appreciate

1883
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 4: everything that you've done for me so far. I'm a

1884
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 4: quarterback and I'm gonna be used as a quarterback during

1885
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 4: my NFL career.

1886
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 3: It's my sole focus.

1887
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to be distracted from my preparation because

1888
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: God forbid anything happens to our starter. I want to

1889
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 4: be able to fill in and have my full attention

1890
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 4: being paid to the most important job on the football field.

1891
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 4: And I hope you can respect that. I mean, there's

1892
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 4: no wiggle room here. That's my final decision on this matter.

1893
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 4: And then I think they'd have respect for him. They

1894
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 4: would say, you know what, all right, we gotta pivot,

1895
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 4: we gotta find somewhere else to go, and guess what,

1896
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 4: there's plenty of super fast, elusive guys on that roster

1897
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 4: that they could get the football too in a kickoff

1898
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 4: return situation and win. And it is a win over

1899
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 4: the next season or couple of seasons, depending if they

1900
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 4: extend his contract Russell Wilson falters or he's injured because

1901
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,520
Speaker 4: he's thirty five years old. Also, you get an opportunity,

1902
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 4: if you're justin fields, to put all that work that

1903
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 4: you've put in in the dark and bring it to light.

1904
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 4: Showcase yourself and guess what. We've seen this plenty of

1905
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 4: times over and over again in the NFL. Backup quarterbacks

1906
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 4: shining for a two week span, a four week span,

1907
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 4: a six six week span, even during kind of a

1908
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 4: lost season for a team, and then getting signed to

1909
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: a big contract somewhere else. It happens.

1910
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 1: All.

1911
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: I see the problem here, Rich, I mean, how many

1912
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 2: punt returners seriously get hurt? Seriously get hurt? I mean,

1913
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 2: we hear about the dangers. Why would you lower than

1914
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: we turn one or two punts?

1915
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 4: Again, if you are, if you are the if you

1916
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 4: are the second to the partner in the law firm,

1917
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 4: why are you fixing sinks in the bathroom.

1918
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 3: Because you get it done.

1919
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 4: If you are if you are the heir apparent to

1920
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 4: the vice president of the corporation you work for, why

1921
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 4: are you helping take out the trash?

1922
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 3: That is somebody else's job.

1923
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: Times have you heard stories about owners of teams like

1924
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 2: literally sweeping the place and maybe not?

1925
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 3: That is completely different.

1926
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 11: If you're the owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers and you

1927
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 11: show up and driving a Toyota Tacoma instead of a

1928
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 11: bent you're doing that because you're trying not to put

1929
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 11: on airs in front of your players. That is a

1930
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 11: completely different situation than somebody who's in literally.

1931
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 3: The seat next to the pilot. You're the copilot. If

1932
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 3: the pilot has a heart attack, you got a jump

1933
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 3: on seat. You're not.

1934
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I'm just standing on the sideline.

1935
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield agree.

1936
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 4: He's standing on the sideline in a couple of different teams,

1937
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 4: and then he got a shot with the Buccaneers and

1938
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 4: he just signed one hundred million dollars prest how many

1939
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 4: punt returners and kick returns three year, one hundred million

1940
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 4: dollar contracts they.

1941
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Want you to listen to this sort of a beast.

1942
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Thoroughbred Racing has a new Independent Regulator HAITHA that is

1943
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 2: implementing comprehensive reforms and the sport is combining hands on

1944
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: care with cutting edge technology to help keep its athletes safe.

1945
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Speaker 2: Safety runs First dot Com. On the other side, the

1947
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Speaker 2: ever changing landscape that is American sports will.

1948
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Speaker 3: Tell you it's in and what is out.

1949
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and a rich Armberger.

1950
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Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tire

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Speaker 2: Rack dot Com studios. Now, one thing I did not

1952
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Speaker 2: see yesterday live because I was busy with my daughter's

1953
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: college graduation was the Kentucky Derby, which ended with a

1954
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: three horse photo finish that had not happened at the

1955
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Speaker 2: Derby since nineteen forty seven. So sometimes you get a

1956
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 2: two horse finish, but to have three horses and it's

1957
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: an amazing finish where three horses photo finished. With these

1958
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 2: three horses, Mystic Dan ends up winning the Kentucky Derby.

1959
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 2: Now the Kentucky Derby in a lot of ways. Well,

1960
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: it's part of the Triple Crown of racing in horse racing.

1961
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 2: So you have the Derby first two weeks later they

1962
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: have the Preakness. Three weeks after that, you have the Belmont.

1963
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Speaker 2: And for me growing up, there was a lot of

1964
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: things that were super relevant in the sports world that

1965
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: are not of the same cachet now that they were

1966
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 2: back in the day. The Triple Crown races. Now, I

1967
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: remember when Secretaryat won the Triple Crown. It had it

1968
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: happened in twenty five years then Seattle Slew did and

1969
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 2: this was front page news constantly. This whole build up to,

1970
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 2: you know, winning the Triple Crown. It was sort of

1971
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Speaker 2: like the Indianapolis five hundred, which is still around, still

1972
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 2: has a nice following, but it doesn't have the same

1973
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 2: national impact that it had with the advance of NASCAR.

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Speaker 3: And everything else. Why is that rich?

1975
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Speaker 2: I mean when we talk about because we talk a

1976
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 2: lot about tradition, you know, sort of the passing of

1977
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 2: the baton in terms of generations, right, your father, your grandfather,

1978
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: sort of how you get involved in sports. A lot

1979
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 2: of times if you're from a family that has interest

1980
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 2: in sports, but sometimes certain sports, certain events seem to

1981
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: sort of fall by the wayside, even though they're still intact.

1982
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 2: They're still run exactly like they used to, but they

1983
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: don't seem to carry the same national peel that they

1984
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 2: did in the past.

1985
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Speaker 4: I think part of the conversation is options. Look, your

1986
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 4: options were fairly limited, say one hundred to eighty years ago,

1987
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Speaker 4: on what sports were nationally televised.

1988
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Speaker 3: That it felt like everybody cared about.

1989
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Speaker 4: Those stakes races, the Belmont, the Preakness, the Kentucky Derby

1990
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 4: were all nationally televised, and they were written about, and

1991
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,560
Speaker 4: there were articles, and this was in every single periodical

1992
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: across America. And there wasn't just local interest, it was

1993
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 4: national interest. Same thing with boxing back then. If you

1994
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 4: think about what the world looks like back then compared

1995
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 4: to how the work world looks now, like, we were

1996
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 4: all kind of looking through the same lens, and it

1997
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 4: was whatever was being fed to us, you know, by

1998
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 4: our local writers, our local television stations, but then also

1999
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 4: national writers and national you know, syndicated broadcasts. Now we

2000
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,879
Speaker 4: have such a fractured audience. If you have a niche

2001
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 4: that you really specifically love, you could go down that

2002
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 4: rabbit hole and get lost in that world. Like if

2003
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 4: you're into competitive corn hole, there's a place in the

2004
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 4: American entertainment industry for you to find all the cornhole

2005
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 4: news and relevant content you need.

2006
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 3: If you're really into darts, you could chase that with

2007
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 3: all your might.

2008
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Speaker 4: If you're really into football, obviously that's a behemoth. Now

2009
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 4: obviously there's tons of outlets for you, you know, hockey, baseball, NBA,

2010
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 4: college basketball, college sports in general, college football. Like, we

2011
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 4: have a situation where we have so many options, and

2012
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 4: so it's becoming more clear what people are actually interested

2013
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Speaker 4: in as opposed to what's being force fed to them.

2014
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Speaker 4: I think back then the options were limited.

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Speaker 3: I think now.

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Speaker 4: We have a much clearer picture of what people are

2017
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 4: actually interested in, because even though there's tons of options,

2018
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 4: it appears that everybody still heads towards the NFL, even

2019
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 4: though there's tons of options. Everyone still really likes Taylor Swift.

2020
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 4: Even though there's tons of options, still people will show

2021
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 4: up for the important games in the playoffs in the NBA, Like,

2022
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 4: we know based on ratings what people are specifically interested

2023
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: in what rates.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how social media has just changed the whole

2025
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 2: dynamic of not just sports, but I mean every aspect

2026
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: of our life in terms of information that can spark

2027
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Speaker 2: a universal interest. Yea, and Kaylin Clark obviously is one

2028
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 2: of those prime examples in a sport that outside of

2029
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: friends and family. And I hate to say this because

2030
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends that have played in

2031
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 2: the WNBA over the years, and great female athletes over

2032
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 2: the years, but there just doesn't generate a lot of interests.

2033
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, Kaitlyn.

2034
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Speaker 2: Clark, there's a spark yep, and a spark suddenly becomes

2035
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 2: a flame, and a flame becomes just an inferno of

2036
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 2: interest in this one woman basketball player, Caitlin Clark. Is

2037
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 2: he the greatest shooter of all time? Perhaps not, No

2038
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 2: one really knows. But the bottom line is is that

2039
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 2: before Caitlyn Clark, while there had been interests, it wasn't

2040
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 2: like there was not they were anonymous. There'd been a

2041
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,919
Speaker 2: lot of great female basketball players, but never ever anything

2042
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: close to generating the kind of interest that Caitlin Clark did,

2043
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: or a Tiger Woods in the day, or a Michael

2044
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 2: Jordan in the day. There's that rare spark again. In

2045
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: horse racing, it could happen again. Secretariat was a huge story.

2046
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: This was a super horse. This isn't just your every

2047
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 2: run of the mill, you know, thoroughbred horse. This was

2048
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: a horse that it was doing things, setting track records

2049
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 2: that we had never seen before. You know, years later

2050
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 2: when Secretary had passed away, they found out why Secretary

2051
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: had this in large, I think it's had a bigger.

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Speaker 4: Engine, just a huge yeah, just a huge capacity to

2053
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 4: pump blood.

2054
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, pump blood, which was explaining why this horse was

2055
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 2: just demolished, never tired.

2056
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Speaker 3: Right, And so that's that's really what it is.

2057
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that to say certain sports, I mean,

2058
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Speaker 2: to me, the prime example right now is boxing, because

2059
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 2: rich you and I are boxing fans, and this is

2060
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Speaker 2: a sport in need.

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Speaker 3: Of a spark desperately.

2062
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Speaker 2: I mean, this latest Canelos situation, you know, he basically

2063
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: once he got into it with Oscar de la Hoya

2064
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 2: the other day, and I keep thinking to myself, where

2065
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 2: is that spark. Mike Tyson when he came on the

2066
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Speaker 2: scene in boxing.

2067
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Speaker 3: Forget it.

2068
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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson was as big as star in sports as

2069
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: there were period. In fact, how big it was. We

2070
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: actually had a charity golf event. I was working for

2071
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 2: the Raiders at the time, and we had to bring

2072
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 2: in It was the night of Mike Tyson fighting Michael Spinks,

2073
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 2: both undefeated, right, and we were gonna get nobody to

2074
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: show up for this event unless somehow we were able

2075
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 2: to bring that fight to our event. Yeah, and they

2076
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 2: didn't even have the means to do it at the time.

2077
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Speaker 2: We had set up the whole thing. The fight last

2078
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: what ninety seconds, oh, the first round knock and demolition.

2079
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Speaker 3: It didn't matter.

2080
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to see Mike Tyson. So I would never

2081
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,839
Speaker 2: say any sport is dead, but for some reason, somehow,

2082
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: you've got to find that spark.

2083
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Well.

2084
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 4: Listen, the other thing that horse racing had that other

2085
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 4: sports didn't, and boxing had it for a long time too,

2086
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 4: is there was a lot of interest in betting on

2087
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 4: these sports. Yes, and again that brings me back to options.

2088
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 4: There weren't a ton of options in terms of what

2089
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 4: you could bet on, but that was something that people

2090
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,799
Speaker 4: felt that they had enough information on, which was sparse

2091
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 4: back then, that they could make an educated bet. When

2092
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 4: you know, you know, you had whatever discretionary income it

2093
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 4: was that you could spend on betting. Well, nowadays, again

2094
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 4: with all of the information we have and all the

2095
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 4: options we have, people really they'll spend their money sports

2096
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 4: betting wise, on things that they feel like they're the

2097
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 4: most informed on. And that's things like, for example, the

2098
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 4: NFL college football or the college basketball Come tournament time,

2099
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 4: everybody's got a bracket. I think the because there are

2100
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 4: so many options and because there's so many other potentially

2101
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 4: exciting ventures from a sports betting standpoint, where you don't

2102
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Speaker 4: have to wait for three events a year to bet

2103
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 4: on them. You can have opportunities throughout the year to

2104
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 4: bet on them. That has really distracted from the interest

2105
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 4: in horse track or horse racing, because I mean, look,

2106
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean, are you following horses you know over in

2107
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 4: San Anita and del Mar out here on the West coast.

2108
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 4: Are you watching some of these you know, you know,

2109
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 4: these these horse.

2110
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 3: People at gamble, I mean, they make a life of it.

2111
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there are there's a certain subject of

2112
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 4: people who will do that, but for the majority of

2113
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 4: sports betters, they don't have that kind of time to invest.

2114
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Chris, what do you got for us?

2115
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, like, I know the point you're

2116
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 9: making as far as like E two to the point

2117
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 9: about just the lifetime horse betters. My grandfather was one.

2118
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 9: He would even go and bet on like greyhounds. But

2119
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 9: it does feel like our generation of gambling on professional

2120
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 9: sports has taken over for that. Yeah, we no longer

2121
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 9: have to tiptoe around gambling on football or baseball. And

2122
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 9: even before it had the widespread legality that it has had

2123
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 9: in New States, that was becoming the case already. It

2124
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 9: was taking over from I mean, I know some of

2125
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 9: these places in Vegas are still called race books, but

2126
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 9: that seems like an older generation that would bet on horses.

2127
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 9: He does feel like a lot of that thing about

2128
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 9: betting on the horses got taken by betting on football

2129
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 9: and betting on basketball.

2130
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Anybody betting on the UFL.

2131
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 4: But that's actually something we keep watching these UFL games.

2132
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,719
Speaker 3: There's nobody eats man that the stands d game. I swear.

2133
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 2: I swear every UFL game I watched they have the

2134
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 2: same people sitting in the same few seats at every

2135
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 2: one of these games. Hey, Like, if I take a

2136
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 2: photo of like a crowd scene, like I would match

2137
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 2: up literally seat for seat where the few people that

2138
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,919
Speaker 2: are actually attending these games are actually sitting.

2139
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Speaker 9: So what, it's football, it's on TV betting on it.

2140
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 9: If I was back in Michigan, I would, okay not

2141
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 9: be going to these games.

2142
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 3: Let's find out what's trending right now.

2143
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out for Moncey because I know

2144
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 2: Moncey loves all sports, but.

2145
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 5: No, I hate the Kentucky Derby.

2146
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 2: Stop it all right, So horse racing is what you

2147
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 2: had to cover that yesterday?

2148
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 3: Did you take us through?

2149
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 8: They take it off the TVs.

2150
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 5: I had them take it off the TVs.

2151
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: Well, what's unreal about the Derby coverage is you do

2152
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 2: like a six hour show leading up to a two

2153
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: minute race.

2154
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 8: That's that's not the problem she has with it.

2155
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 3: No, with that problem, I.

2156
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,679
Speaker 6: Just don't understand why we continue to abuse these horses

2157
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 6: that are being injected.

2158
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 2: And well, when we had that outbreak of that's so

2159
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,839
Speaker 2: we're at Santa Anita, we started bringing up the whole idea,

2160
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: the inhumane nature.

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01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just in the Derby is just a place

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01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 6: where people want to be seen, Like you just want

2163
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 6: to go and be seen there.

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01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 4: I will say this, I've gotten an opportunity to walk

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01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 4: the stables out a bunch of different tracks.

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01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 3: I have family members who own parts of horses.

2167
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 4: And have you know, currently have in the past, and

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01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 4: the level of care and treatment these horses receive other

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01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 4: than what is arguably. I mean, and this again is

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01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 4: an arguable statement, but one bad day because some of

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01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 4: these horses meet their end and it doesn't seem fair

2172
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 4: to the horses. They're treated like kinks like this is

2173
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 4: these are some of the cleanest, most beautiful conditions you

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01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 4: could have prepared for any animal. I mean they're doted over.

2175
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 4: I mean they're in fact, this is true. Some of

2176
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 4: the people are taking care of the horses are in

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01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 4: worse shape than the horses.

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01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, it's like, I guess, for any living

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01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: animal or any living thing.

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01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 3: What is your purpose? Right right? Yeah right?

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01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 6: And you guys, not only me, So it's like, yeah,

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01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 6: the idea of that is like it goes.

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01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 5: With that, you know what I'm saying, And so I.

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01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 9: Just understand your too, I think Mancia I discussed this

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01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 9: too to her point, like we've kind of moved past

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01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 9: greyhound race. As I said, when I was a kid,

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01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 9: I remember going to Phoenix and watching the greyhound races

2188
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 9: my grandfather. But I'm pretty sure we all decide to

2189
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 9: put it as a country put an.

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 8: End to that.

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01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 9: Around like the two thousands, there might be one or

2192
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:58,720
Speaker 9: two states left where greyhound race.

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01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: I actually want one time Colorado and Denver, and I bet,

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01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 2: but like greyhound racing was notorious for its for how

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01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: it treated those dogs. And it was ridiculous because they

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01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 2: hit the first turn and like four or five dogs

2197
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 2: went flying the white.

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 3: They don't have jockeys, so they're following.

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01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 2: And I remember it because I went in to start

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01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: to check it out because I made a bet on

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01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 2: this race.

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01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 3: My heart, my horse, my dog.

2203
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 2: Went flying into the first time, like they just they

2204
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 2: just ran into each other body.

2205
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, when I was a kid, we racy. We

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01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 3: adopted a retired racing rayhound.

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01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 5: We called her.

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01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 4: We called her I named her, and nobody asked me why,

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01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: and I finally revealed. I was like, well, she's pretty

2210
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 4: lucky that she's still alive considering how bad.

2211
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Of a racing dog she was.

2212
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 4: She was an absolutely no, I'm kidding, but but that

2213
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 4: is the true story.

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01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 3: We did. We did.

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01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 4: We did adopt her, and that dog, I want to say,

2216
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 4: was the longest living dog we've ever owned. I think

2217
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 4: she was like seventeen when she finally I mean she

2218
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 4: was a pretty good dog.

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01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 3: Wow, seventeen. She was I mean a big she had

2220
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 3: to be a big dog. Yeah, and now, dogs don't

2221
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 3: live that long.

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01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 4: We have an Italian greyhound that's seven pounds named Lady

2223
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 4: in our house, who's fifteen years old CUE.

2224
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: And she has no physical problems. Actually she has every

2225
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 2: known physical problem. This dog is blind. She's got like

2226
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 2: those glazy eyes. She's got one tooth left in her mouth.

2227
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 2: She runs into stuff. She's like the ferret from along

2228
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 2: King Polly. You know, she just run into But she's

2229
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 2: a happy dog.

2230
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 4: And you know that tongue just hangs out of her

2231
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 4: mouth though there's nothing keeping it in.

2232
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, oh, what were we talking about?

2233
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

2234
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: I know we were talking about your favorite sports, like

2235
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 2: you friend of all sports?

2236
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 3: He said, No, I'm not over.

2237
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, there we go, all right, fellas.

2238
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 6: We've got the second round of the NHL Playoffs happening

2239
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 6: in New York between the Rangers and the Hurricane, and

2240
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 6: it's Rangers on top two to one, about nine minutes

2241
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 6: to go in the first period. There's gonna be a

2242
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 6: Game seven on the ice later today from Dallas between

2243
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 6: the Stars and the Golden Knights, seven thirty pm Eastern time.

2244
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,640
Speaker 5: Game seven, that's still the first round. Game seven in

2245
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 5: the NBA, the Calves with.

2246
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 6: The one oh six to ninety seven comeback win against

2247
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 6: the Magic Jnovan Mitchell leading the way thirty nine points,

2248
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 6: nine rebounds, five assists.

2249
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 5: Paulo Bencaro had a great first half.

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01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 6: He ended ten of twenty eight from the field thirty

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01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 6: eight points, sixteen rebounds. Franz Wagner one of fifteen from

2252
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 6: the field, ended with six points. Orlando is the fourth

2253
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 6: youngest team average age of twenty four point three years

2254
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 6: old in the league.

2255
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 5: The Calves are not.

2256
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 6: Going to face the Celtics for Game one of the

2257
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 6: Eastern Conference Semifinals on Tuesday in Major League Baseball now

2258
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 6: rain delay in New York, but the Yankees did take

2259
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 6: the lead Juan Soto with the three RBI double in

2260
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 6: the seventh inning. It's five to two against the Tigers.

2261
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 6: Bottom of the eighth inning, rain delay. Blue Jays were

2262
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 6: on top after a grand slam by Vladimir Guerrero Junior.

2263
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 5: The Nationals have taken the lead.

2264
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 6: It is seven to six, top of the fifth, Mets

2265
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 6: on top of the race, five to four bottom of

2266
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 6: the ninth in Tampa. They're just gonna start that inning.

2267
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 6: The Red Sox Twins. Red Sox on top seven to two.

2268
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 6: Started the ninth inning in Minnesota. Again, the Twins have

2269
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 6: won twelve in a row. Trying to make it thirteen.

2270
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 6: They've got five runs to make up. In the last inning. Mariners,

2271
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 6: Astros tied up four a piece. Top of the eighth.

2272
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 6: Royals blanking the Rangers two zero, top of the fifth,

2273
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 6: White Sox on top of the Cardinals five to one,

2274
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 6: bottom of the ninth. In Saint Louis, Cubs shutting out

2275
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 6: the Brewers five zero, top of the ninth.

2276
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 5: In Chicago yesterday, the a scored twenty runs against the Marlins.

2277
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 6: Miami trying to make up for that. It's four zero

2278
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 6: Miami on top top of the second. Dodgers Shoheo Tania

2279
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 6: two run homer. He hit a homer yesterday, breaking the

2280
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 6: record for a Japanese born player in the Dodgers franchise.

2281
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 5: They're passing Dave Roberts.

2282
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 3: I love what he had to say. He goes. He

2283
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 3: basically showed what a relief it is.

2284
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roberts hits seven home runs as a Dodger.

2285
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight.

2286
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 3: He goes to finally pass this show.

2287
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 2: He was like telling you in the chase, Yeah, I'm

2288
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 2: finally relieved that I passed that record.

2289
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 6: Yes, well you just did another homer today, two zero

2290
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 6: over the Braves for the Dodgers top of the third,

2291
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 6: Orioles on top of the Reds three zero top of

2292
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 6: the third, and the Diamondbags are beating the Padres four

2293
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 6: to two top of the second. Luis Araz yesterday, you

2294
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 6: know the Padres just acquired him.

2295
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 5: He had a four hit night. No best debut for

2296
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 5: a Padre.

2297
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeais so two tiny head. Yeah, wrote two different teams.

2298
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: By the way, double a RBI. I mean that's as

2299
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: good of it.

2300
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 4: And by the way, he was unpacking his bags fresh

2301
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 4: off the flight an hour before first pitch at Chase Field.

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01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 6: No, it's so impressive, so impressive, four hit night for

2303
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 6: that guy. Back to you guys, all.

2304
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 3: Right, thank you very much. So Mon's a great job.

2305
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 2: Is always Monsie working around the clock. So you're here

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 2: till eleven o'clock again tonight.

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01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 6: If I don't have a margarita by five point fifteen,

2309
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 6: called the.

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01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 3: Cops, that'll be that'll be good, very very good. No,

2311
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean this is.

2312
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 2: Yes, we are celebrating Cinco de Mayo here on Fox

2313
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right, so I've talked about this many

2314
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: times with rich that he does the best dirty martini

2315
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: that I've ever had in my life.

2316
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, and I've had. I've had enough to say.

2317
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you were to say, this is

2318
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: the signature margarita courtesy of one Richard Ornberger, break it

2319
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: down for wow.

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01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 4: I guess you know, boy, I would say, poor with

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01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 4: your heart. When it comes to the tequila, well that's

2322
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 4: sort of where I begin. How much are we talking?

2323
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 4: I would say a classic margarita at least half a

2324
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 4: bottle of the seven and fifty. Actually, I'll give you

2325
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 4: a very simple recipe that was kind of fun that

2326
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 4: I had on Friday because we were celebrating early on

2327
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 4: the local radio station.

2328
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 3: There's something called jug juice where if you have a bottle.

2329
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 4: Of that limeaid like that simply limemaide, and you pour

2330
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: out a quarter of it, or you pour a cup

2331
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 4: of it or whatever, and then you add to it

2332
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 4: a couple of had halapanos like like you feel it

2333
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 4: the rest of the way up with tequila, and you

2334
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 4: just let that sucker marinate in the refrigerator for twelve hours,

2335
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 4: say twenty four hours if you have time for it.

2336
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean, all of a sudden.

2337
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 4: You have a spicy margarita that stands up to just

2338
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 4: about any spicy margarita I've had.

2339
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 3: Do you like it on the rocks or the crushed?

2340
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's that is it's a depend that that's

2341
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 4: a it's a pens situation. Pool side, give me a

2342
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 4: frozen margarita every time.

2343
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 3: Frozen. All right.

2344
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 2: On the other side, will tell you what to look

2345
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 2: forward to this week on the sports calendar.

2346
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

2347
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman Rich Ornberger celebrating Saka to my hair my

2348
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: oh here, sorry, cut it short there on Fox Sports Sunday,

2349
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 2: Way Alive from the Tirak dot Com studios. I want

2350
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: to thank the crew today, Moncey belanyas after a ten

2351
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 2: hour day yesterday, we'll enjoy a margarita a little bit

2352
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: later on to celebrate the Sinko de Mayo holiday.

2353
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:20,680
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's the plan.

2354
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: That is the plan. Yes.

2355
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 4: By the way, Also, I know that I know that

2356
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 4: Moncey was doing like eleven hours of radio yesterday because

2357
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 4: I realized underneath my feet is a box of printer

2358
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 4: paper that's.

2359
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 3: Not there for me.

2360
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 5: I do not, I don't, I don't like it. There

2361
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2362
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 3: Well, it's too heavy for you to carry ways as

2363
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 3: much as you do.

2364
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 5: It's really heavy.

2365
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 4: There's no question in my mind that somebody brought this

2366
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 4: in some because otherwise Manzi's feet would dangle off of

2367
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 4: the well.

2368
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 5: I actually stand when I do the show she does.

2369
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 5: I actually stand, So you're not wrong.

2370
01:56:58,560 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 3: You see he does.

2371
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 2: And I sit here for two glorious hours every Saturday

2372
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 2: with her, and I sit and she stands, and you guys, wait,

2373
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 2: I I do that on television. I hate doing TV

2374
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: work City, Okay, I want to stand, you know, I

2375
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: don't know.

2376
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 4: You can, sort of, Liz, I disagree wholeheartedly. I would

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Speaker 4: prefer doing everything seated, as many things as possible.

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Speaker 2: Bo.

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Speaker 3: Do you do a lot of standing or do you

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Speaker 3: prefer city?

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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 8: I try to stand. I try to, but that's kind

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Speaker 8: of weird.

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01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 3: Shows a really tall guy, yeah, show how tall are you? Both?

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Speaker 8: Six two?

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01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 3: You seem taller than that? It really does. Yees? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you sure about that?

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01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 4: They call that gravitas when somebody appears larger than they are.

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Speaker 8: He really I wanted to take a moment to talk

2389
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 8: about the biggest jump scare I've ever had in my life.

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01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 8: That happened yesterday morning when I strolled in at six

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Speaker 8: am and I looked to my left and saw Rich

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Speaker 8: Hornberger sitting in the studio right and early in the morning.

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Speaker 8: And I did not expect to see no joke. It

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Speaker 8: took him about fifteen minutes to realize this. I was like, wait,

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Speaker 8: what it did sometime of my song?

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01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 3: It didn't Actually you didn't notice I was here?

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01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 1: No I did.

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01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 8: I truly didn't, because no one's ever hear that early.

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Speaker 3: No one's communicating like, you know, oh, by the way,

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01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 3: but Rich will be here.

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01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 4: No.

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 3: I told him, oh you did.

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01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 8: He wasn't listening, like listening.

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01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 2: When did you find out, Chris that Rich was going

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01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: to be here real real early on the door for him?

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01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he when he opened the door in the

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01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 4: courtyard and I was like, oh yeah, I was like

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01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 4: hey Chris.

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01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,720
Speaker 3: He was like, you're here now.

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01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 2: Chris stands while he works on the show only about

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the time.

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01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 3: Good for you, they say, it's really really good for you.

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01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 8: I'm like, bo, I don't have a problem with my height.

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01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm five six, but I make up for it with

2415
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 4: like my really like strict workout regime.

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01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and my diet overall.

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01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 8: That's not true at all.

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01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 3: What, Chris, how easy? I mean, it's theater of the mind.

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01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, improv I guess nobody knows we actually look like.

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01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. You have any idea what kind of

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01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 4: adonis you're speaking to right now? How embarrassing? It's all

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01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 4: dark and handsome. That's me, Yeah, exactly, Chris. Chris Prefet

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01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 4: stands six feet tall and he has no eyes whatsoever.

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 4: I see Mary mac coming in, she's ready for her shift.

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01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 4: Do you stand or do you sit?

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01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 2: Mary Mack when he works? Stan or site right to

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01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: see that.

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01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 3: That's that's one after my own heart.

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01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 4: I am going to stay seated unless there's an emergency,

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01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 4: and then I'm going to continue to sit until I'm

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01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 4: aware how impactful this emergency.

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Speaker 9: By the way, I don't know how Mexican euros are,

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 9: but that's probably my food. I will pair with tequila tonight.

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01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 8: Well, if you could sit during an NFL game, would

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:48,720
Speaker 8: you still be playing? Rich It's like a burrito?

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01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in fact absolutely.

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01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 4: In fact, my favorite part of playing in football games

2438
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 4: was when we got to come back to the sideline

2439
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 4: because nobody cared if you say In fact, the worst

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Speaker 4: teams that I've ever played on were the ones were

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Speaker 4: all like, once you get towards the sideline and like

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02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 4: support your guys. I'm like, I'd rather support them from

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02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 4: a seated position. I can choot just as hard. At

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02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 4: least Barry Sanders sleeping there. Hey, Bill, hand me that

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02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 4: tablet real quick. I gotta check some y I like

2446
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 4: Marshawn Lynch, like he had a he had a maid

2447
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 4: in the shade man he would find places a city

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02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 4: skittles like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let's I said, I want to break

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Speaker 2: down the entire week coming up here in the sports world.

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Speaker 3: Let's see where do I begin? Right now, I can't