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Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky. Hey, Judy, I'm

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Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I said, las nandas p. Hey boo, it's me Ross

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by ros Hernandez, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have a feeling you're gonna live

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Speaker 1: for this one. This is Star Amarasu, who many of

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Speaker 1: you may know from social media because she's such if fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Just her ability to perform and also where her brain

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Speaker 1: goes with things is just unexpected sometimes but it's always

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Speaker 1: so right, Like she just has the best taste. She's

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Speaker 1: so funny. She can give you just one look and

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Speaker 1: you know everything you needed to know. She's just I

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Speaker 1: can't speak more highly of Star. I'm such a fan.

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Speaker 1: She's also an amazing DJ musician. She does it all, honey.

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Speaker 1: So of course she's also somebody that's got great insight

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Speaker 1: and stories and everything we look for in a great episode.

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Speaker 1: So I can't wait for you to listen. I don't

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Speaker 1: have much to say up top here, I will give you.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a Sylvia Brown bibliomancy. Okay, This is

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Speaker 1: from her book All Pets Go to Heaven Love that

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Speaker 1: Ooh okay, and this is the line I'm choosing. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be our message today from Sylvia Brown. It says, naturally,

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Speaker 1: since she is on the other side, she has first

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Speaker 1: hand knowledge of the other side and all that it contains.

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Speaker 1: That's becoming my resident expert on all that takes place there.

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Speaker 1: Who's she talking about, Oh, her spirit guide Francine. She

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Speaker 1: had a spirit guide named Francine. Okay, so we just

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Speaker 1: got a message from Francine that Francine is with us

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Speaker 1: throughout this episode. Who is Sylvia Brown's spiritual guide. Sylvia,

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Speaker 1: of course is now probably wherever Francina is, rest in peace. Sylvia, okay,

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Speaker 1: here is be very much alive Star Amarasu and with

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Speaker 1: the show. Oh my god, I don't believe it. Spooky Y,

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy about this. You came fully glammed and gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Well, sister, you told me to come on your podcast.

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, well I'm going to show up. You're

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Speaker 2: one of the most glam bitches I know, so I

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Speaker 1: At this very moment, I am wearing my comfort wear.

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Speaker 1: But now podcasts, I'm told her on camera too, and

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Speaker 1: I constantly forget about that.

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Speaker 2: You know what, It's okay, you look beautiful. Regardless of

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Speaker 2: how you say.

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Speaker 1: You feel about your luck, you look beautiful. You that's

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Speaker 1: very sweet of you. Just say if you look very gorgeous,

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Speaker 1: I'm not thank you. But if you start making out

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Speaker 1: let me well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like on our show we like almost

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Speaker 2: do that a couple of times. Don't we talk about that?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think we should talk about it in

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Speaker 1: that way, like, right, we're not allowing to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like big things coming though, heykay.

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Speaker 1: Things in the works, Now, let's talk about about it.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that me and Star and somebody

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We recently worked on a series, a scripted series, scripted,

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Speaker 1: very scripted, quite scripted, a little off the rails as words,

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Speaker 1: wordy words that we had to remember. And it's very cunt.

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Speaker 2: I would say, cunt cunt in a roundabout way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cute. People are gonna love it.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of in the sense that we never talked

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Speaker 1: That's true. It's one of these things where where we're

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Speaker 2: We are just women, young women with dreams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is our identities. Yes, now tell me about

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Speaker 1: your dreams.

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Speaker 2: You which dreams?

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Speaker 1: Darling? Well, first of all, just last week you, you

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Speaker 1: and I had a photo shoot. We did this project.

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Speaker 1: We can't tug for this project. Stop trying to make

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Speaker 2: We can't stop it.

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Speaker 1: But this was a photo shoot for that project, for

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Speaker 2: Very downtown Santi Ali essentially pretty much.

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Speaker 1: And I walking in happened to pass by a Botanica,

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Speaker 2: As we were leaving, we got in the elevator and

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. And he was moving it so freaking

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Speaker 2: He was having fun with it. Looky, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he was loving it. Like you know what,

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Speaker 1: So we go to this Botanica after the shoot gorgeous store.

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Speaker 1: Had I wish I knew it was called I would

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Speaker 1: called witchcraft? It was called something like that, and it

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Speaker 1: got oils. One oil. One oil that we both got

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Speaker 1: was the one that's called gay Love Gay Love Oil,

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Speaker 1: and it had the Pride flag on it because we

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Speaker 1: we want our shopping spree. We really did us well

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Speaker 1: because it was like the Botanica supply store, so like

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Speaker 2: I swear was cheaper because like I feel like I

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Speaker 2: only spend like forty dollars on my bag of ship

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Speaker 2: because I bought some of the stuff for you did

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Speaker 2: buy something, you said, make sister thirty.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, I'll cover that one.

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Speaker 1: Because I spent a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: You spend going well. Because we all got these figurines

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could talk about who she is? Were they she?

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Speaker 2: You know, we could say she. Why can't we say

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Speaker 1: No, we can't because it could be a man, it could.

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Speaker 2: Be another one. There is like a couple like hot

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Speaker 1: But if we would have went to the Botanica before,

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Speaker 2: Because apparently one of them is gay, one of them

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Speaker 2: guys that we work. Yeah, well, the one, the one.

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Speaker 1: The one, the one because he was in the show,

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Speaker 1: the one that died, no, you know, the one that

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Speaker 1: was the one that puked, No, the one that was

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Speaker 1: taking the pictures I was taking the picture girl.

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Speaker 2: The one that was taking the other day. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then the other one wasn't. See Now what we

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Speaker 2: Would love to do that one day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so but actually no, I don't do witchcraft like

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Speaker 1: is that you have a witch history.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry of that tea? Wait one second, Hi.

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Speaker 1: No, that was good. I want to hear the witch tea. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what I want to hear the witch tea?

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Speaker 2: Which story?

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Speaker 1: First? Of what you got nails? I do feel like

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Speaker 1: the longer the nails, the closer to the other side

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Speaker 2: Okay, I could see that like a witch nail type teeth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah right, because well, what's the movie? Oh

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Speaker 2: like non Secretive, but like one of my favorite vampire movies.

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Speaker 2: It is called Byzantium. And the way that the vampire

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Speaker 2: nailed long and they preck it into people. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: which is sickening.

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Speaker 1: What kind of nails do they witch? Shape? It like

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Speaker 1: turns like the better be coffin tips.

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Speaker 2: It's like pointy sharp claw and they like press it

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Speaker 1: But I see this is the thing though. Coffin tip

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you're a vampire, you have to

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Speaker 2: charon in Charon Sharon, Yeah, shout shout out to sure,

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Speaker 2: she wrote it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you can work with us on our next project,

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Speaker 1: one of these projects. Okay, so you were a witch?

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Speaker 2: I have done okay. I I would say that I

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Speaker 2: am a root worker is the classic term, like I'm

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Speaker 2: a bit more like animism, vibes like the trees and

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Speaker 1: Basically I lived with this.

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Speaker 2: Girl and at one point I did my own spells

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Speaker 2: girl she had ordered a book and two copies came. Oh,

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Speaker 2: and so you're like, no, she she was like knocked

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Speaker 2: I was like, well it was meant to be.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'm a root work.

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Speaker 2: And then the book was about root work, which is

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Speaker 2: more like people who came from Africa, African slaves. Magic

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Speaker 2: more indigenous magic. Okay to Africa. And then also they

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Speaker 1: What is her name, Caitlyn Jenner?

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Speaker 2: Okay, her name maybe sounds like Schmitland min or.

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Speaker 2: So I go meet up with her for dosas. We're

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Speaker 2: It was no shit, man, but like I did witchcraft

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I'm stuck with this man. Shit because

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Speaker 2: It is karma. I go, I got my karma. It

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Speaker 1: You know, many people believe and that many people don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, were you doing like spell work and stuff?

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Speaker 2: So I had one for beauty that I did a

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Speaker 2: Yes, and never get into divination.

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Speaker 1: Uh meaning what because I do think that, like when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think that's part of it. Also, Like

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Speaker 1: No, I've never done that.

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Speaker 2: You never did that? Now, scrying to like find somebody are.

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Speaker 2: That that's one version, or like sometimes going into your

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Speaker 2: I basically have notebooks where I just start writing things.

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Speaker 2: Now, I close my eyes and I start like imagining,

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Speaker 2: to cast me in January. We're going to film this thing.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna which that part isn't coming up, but like

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Speaker 1: What did you protect this is gonna happen low key?

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Speaker 2: Well should I say it on cameras like nix it? Actually,

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Speaker 2: It's like not it's a sleeper thing like happens the

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Speaker 2: I think I was on the right timing for the thing,

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Speaker 1: But see, you, I think are just naturally powerful. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 1: Well, you were telling me about psychometry. Okay, yes, you

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Speaker 2: I can, like, well, that one is where you like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've told this story like a long time ago

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Speaker 1: every single week. So I used to know a guy

437
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: that had this ability where he can touch something and

438
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: he like that's a ravens but he could like get

439
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: pertinent information out of things. And he didn't do it

440
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: for a living, which makes it even more legit. I

441
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: think that he was just somebody like he was like

442
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed by it. He didn't want people to

443
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: know he trusted me, and he told me, I'm not

444
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: saying his name or anything, so I'm not outing him,

445
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: but he he trusted me with this secret, and I

446
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I believe in that kind of a thing,

447
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: like sure, whatever, but it's one thing just to say

448
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: that and another thing to see it. I see it happen.

449
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: So I at the time was trying to devil in

450
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: the lady lesbianism. I mean at the time, my presentation

451
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: was not giving female Okay, so you're in your like

452
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: non binary tees. No, this was like, oh, this is

453
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: high school. Oh okay, okay, So I have this moment

454
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: with this girl in the backseat of my car because

455
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: of where do you go? Okay? But I see anyway,

456
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: so we're backseat in the car. I don't think anything

457
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: really crazy. I think it was mainly just like us,

458
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: like talking and gossiping whatever.

459
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm not a making out session.

460
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't remember, but either way we were. It's

461
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: like where do you hang out? Where? Where do you

462
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: even gossip? When you're in high school and you live.

463
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: With your parents the mall?

464
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: But okay, but you can only go to the mall

465
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: so many times.

466
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: Right, you wanted a little bit of like intimate gossip.

467
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. I still to this day, I have

468
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: a hard time with like being in noisy places and

469
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: talking gossip because this is karma. I have multi times

470
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: in my life been talking shit about someone and they're

471
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: right there. Oh yeah, me too. That has happened to

472
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: me in public.

473
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: And then you know what I usually do, which is

474
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: really crazy. It's like if I'm talking shit about the

475
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: person and then I'll go like, and you know what

476
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: actually to them, and I'll be like, let me tell

477
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: you something, and then you just start going in. I

478
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: usually do that, like I if they clock me and

479
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: they're there, and then I just start going in because

480
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, let's let's remove the veal.

481
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: But at least the situations I'm thinking of, It's like,

482
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: it's more like talking shit in like a way that

483
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: deserves bad karma coming out. You mean, being mean, Okay,

484
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: being mean, and then all of a sudden that person

485
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: is right there and now I'm mean. It happens, It's happened.

486
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: We've all done it.

487
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been mean before, but I try now just

488
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: to tell the truth or at least from my perspective, Sure, okay,

489
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: so I have this back to the story, sorry, backsee

490
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: the car with this girl.

491
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: Whatever. The next day, I pick up this friend he's,

492
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, sits in the backseat of my car.

493
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: He starts re enacting the conversation I had with that

494
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: girl the night before, and I was like, I believe you.

495
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: Now he was from sitting there for word doing the

496
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: conversation that I have with.

497
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: The girl that i'd be boating in the car. Yeah.

498
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: As a child, my mom told me that I used

499
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: to come into her room just tell her stuff and

500
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 2: like things that I thought and that would happen, and

501
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: she used to get really freaked out by it. So

502
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: I think you can sort of close those doors when

503
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: you're a child.

504
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Well, children are creepy when they're like I know something. Yeah, Like, okay,

505
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: you're a.

506
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Kid, stop calmed down. My mom told me that there

507
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: was a lot of times where I would come into

508
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: her room and tell her things and it would happen

509
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: or like the situation would be revealed later. So I

510
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: feel like I stopped. I put a little damper on it.

511
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: In my age, like now, I don't watch a lot

512
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 2: of like horror or scarier spooky things. So that's not

513
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: where my mind usually goes. So I feel like I

514
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: usually am open to spirits and like a mystical experiences.

515
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: And sometimes I think that what we think of as

516
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: ghosts or spirits are potential like energetic beings from other realms.

517
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: That's a whole other story.

518
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: It's all part of this conversation is that the story

519
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: I feel free, it tells overrun the whole combo. This

520
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: is all about you. These people are no, they're not

521
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: sick of you. Okay, So do you have example, like,

522
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: do you know examples that your mother has told you

523
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: that you have said, like a memory, now now a lot.

524
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: Does people say that that's hereditary? Do you think that

525
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: it's in your family?

526
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: I think so because also like those same types of

527
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: things get called mental illness, right, and I feel like

528
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: in my family, like some people are often diagnosed with

529
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: like paranoia or feel like you know, they have like

530
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: heightened sense of anxiety and heightened senses of paranoia and situations,

531
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: and like some people in my family have been diagnosed

532
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: with like hearing things and hearing voices and stuff. And

533
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: so that's like that's a tricky area where it's like,

534
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: is this mental illness perhaps.

535
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. You go to a psychiatrist and

536
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: you're like, I hear dead people talking to you now

537
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: the psychiatrist, unless you go to the psychiatrist, Hey, doctor,

538
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: your mother told me this, and your mother's name was this,

539
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: and then maybe the doctor's like oo okay, he's writing

540
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: in the prescription. Never mind, rip, you have a gift, right.

541
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: You need to be on television.

542
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: When it becomes like super specific, right, Yeah, yeah, I

543
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: think that like vibes though, my mom is very much

544
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: a vibes person, and I kind of trust her intuition sometimes,

545
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like sometimes they take it

546
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: with a grain of salt, because I also have this

547
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: belief that people who are sensitives is we'll all say

548
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: the terms like sensitives people who are able to tune

549
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: tune energies and like know things, sometimes their own preconceived

550
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: notions or things that people have taught them about the

551
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: world flavor their intuity, you know, like if someone's super

552
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: conservative and they grew up in a conservative family, or

553
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: maybe they're going to into it more fucked up things

554
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: about other people that are outside of the bounds of

555
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: their conservative upbringing. Yes, is that necessarily right? No, sometimes

556
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: it is, but you know, but because they have that,

557
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: like the lens already, I think the practice is to

558
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: remove all lenses, have no judgment, and then you could

559
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 2: be a real like I trust.

560
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: That as well, And I think that that where we

561
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: see that the most is like religion. Like people that

562
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: were raised Christian are like, there's a demon here or

563
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: a Jesus will save us or whatever. And maybe they're

564
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: like psychic people and they because there are a lot

565
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: of psychics that are like, you need Jesus or whatever.

566
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: But then there's people that don't have that lens or whatever,

567
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: and they don't view it that way. But I think

568
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: they're talking about the same thing, good and bad or spirits.

569
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: To somebody who's like super religious, any kind of spirit

570
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: might be bad just because it's the spirit that's not

571
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Jesus or God.

572
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on the religion.

573
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: But it could be their ancestors trying to help them,

574
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: or it could be I don't know. I believe in

575
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 2: benevolent spirits. I basically had the situation where I had

576
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: bottom surgery, like two thousand and thirteen, I was twenty one,

577
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: and I was like staying because the apartment that I

578
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: lived in was like on the second floor a bunch

579
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: of it was like a hotel San Francisco. San Francisco.

580
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 2: I lived in like an sro do you know what

581
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: that is? Like a single room and then your bathrooms

582
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: a shared in the hallway with like everyone in the building.

583
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

584
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: And so I was healing from surgery. I ended up

585
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: staying at somebody else's house that was like a cute

586
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: like house in Berkeley. I'm staying in this house. I'm

587
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: like kind of just like you know, healing and pain,

588
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: and I feel like when you're in those kinds of states,

589
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: you're closer to the edge of like the other world. Right, Yes,

590
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: So I'm like laying there. There was a music box

591
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: in the room. I remember, it's the middle of the night.

592
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: The windows open, I see three little blue lights flying

593
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: into the room, and I'm like a little bit delirious, right,

594
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: So I was like hi, Like I wasn't scared. I

595
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: was like, Hi, I see them go like spin around.

596
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: The music box starts playing and then they spin away

597
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: and then I'm talking right, So then my roommate or

598
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: a friend who's like, you know, staying in the room

599
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: beside wakes up and comes out. It's like, why is

600
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the music box playing? And I was like, I don't know,

601
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: it just started playing. Who do you think that was?

602
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: Or what was that?

603
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: My intuition says, it was like not of this realm,

604
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Like it was a different realm, you know what I mean.

605
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Not.

606
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it was ghosts. To me, it was

607
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: giving alien vibes. Really, yes, So it was like blue

608
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: lights and I was like, oh, that was so interesting.

609
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: And I've talked to other people who have seen similar things.

610
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I got my one other transferend who was talking about

611
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: seeing blue lights before.

612
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, this is interesting because so you already, I believe,

613
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: have these gifts that you were born with, like you're

614
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: whether it's hereditary or what it is. But then when

615
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: you like throw trans in the mix, right, trans people

616
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: have always been known to be spiritually connected. Yeah, And

617
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: so to me personally, I always feel like trans people

618
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: their intuition is like I trust a transperson's intuition. I

619
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: think that people need to all have at least one

620
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: transperson because they can give you the right advice on things.

621
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of it is, you know,

622
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: some say it's like living between realms because like living

623
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: between the binary Like, I don't know, what are your

624
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on on that.

625
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's obviously a historical precedent for trans people,

626
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: right and even including the Bible, you know, but I

627
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: think in the Bible they prefer to transpepot it's the eunuchs.

628
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, you know, it's in a lot of texts.

629
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: There's sacred texts about people that sort of of either

630
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: like remove parts of their genitalia or our spiritual unus.

631
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: I believe of them, that's a whole other thing. But

632
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: I do try to believe of myself as like I

633
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: have the spiritual connection and in a different lifetime I

634
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: potentially was a spiritual eunuch, like I was like you know,

635
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: anointed dressing, doing the thing and praying to the to

636
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: the goddess or the mini faced goddesses, like the Mother,

637
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: the Crone, the maiden.

638
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, like you look at me when you said crone,

639
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: Well if she fits you said, the Mother, the Crone.

640
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: The Maiden, the Crone. Right now, I'm in my maiden energy,

641
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: and sometimes I get into the mother energy. I would say, Mother,

642
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm in maiden just because I'm young, and fuckable.

643
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: I actually believe this is just my own thing that

644
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: I think that there's like blood ancestors that we all

645
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: have whatever we share whatever, DNA, whatever. But I think

646
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: that there's also like your transistors. Yeah, and I think

647
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: that we're like kind of all the same, like breed

648
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: of human or something like.

649
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think we're all like a thing

650
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: that it's not that we're related, like we we're allowed

651
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: to have sex with each other if we need to. Like,

652
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like any that situation. Yeah, depending

653
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: on the situation. Just not when your sister's out of

654
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: the country for a couple of weeks.

655
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, do not thou shalt not covet thy sister's trade.

656
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: It never works out for the person.

657
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: That's the eleventh commandment, that is the Bible.

658
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: That's the doll commandment, like the minute like you pop

659
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: the moone, thou shalt not covet thy sister's trade. And

660
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: it also works for Remember, I think gay guys can

661
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: get away with it a little bit more absolutely they do.

662
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Like with the dolls.

663
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: It just I've never seen it work out whenever somebody

664
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: dates another dolls exit they were friends.

665
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: It just never works out for that doll. No it doesn't.

666
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but back to what you were saying.

667
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, but anyway, I do think that there's like gender

668
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: nonconform whatever it is, gender variant person. Yeah, like we

669
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: all have it, as in ancestors somewhere in a line,

670
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: I believe. I agree.

671
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: I also think that like what unfortunately we're dealing with

672
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: is like a resistance to evolution. But we see this

673
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: in like all sorts of aspects of humanity right now,

674
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: Like we haven't evolved to the point where we want

675
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: to like protect our world, our actual lived world that

676
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: we live in. Like that's so odd to me. And

677
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: I think the idea too, is like it should be

678
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: a fascinating scientific marvel that you can take a hormone

679
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 2: and change your physical body. Also that people can heal

680
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: from surgery. I love, like how mutable our bodies are,

681
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Like that's so amazing trans and otherwise surgical intervention is

682
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: like such a fascinating art.

683
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: It really is, like.

684
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: That should be the thing. I'm like, shouldn't it be

685
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: more like how fascinating that humans can like transform in

686
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: this way? Like we haven't really woken up the idea

687
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: that like we are so transformational as a species, as

688
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 2: an overall species, to be able to get plastic surgery,

689
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: to be able to you know, like live in these

690
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: ways like starfish, you know, remove a limb and it

691
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: grows back, and lizards are like that too, Like we,

692
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: I think, are holding ourselves back from that that we

693
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: could eventually get there, because if you cut us and

694
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: you put the pieces of your skin back together, you

695
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: can heal.

696
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just go like it heals.

697
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Back, Like that should be fascinating.

698
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: It is.

699
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: It is in a way, but it's not because there's

700
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: like all this rhetoric about transnis is some sort of

701
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: in natural thing when I'm like, I don't know, Like

702
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: to me, it does feel natural. And I also think

703
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: that like being able to change your reality is natural too.

704
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, absolutely, I love looking at it that way.

705
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I think we should hear one more story from you.

706
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I know, and we segue into another story from starf

707
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: We're also.

708
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Tell me a psychometry story, please.

709
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's what happened.

710
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: I was.

711
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: This is you know, like early days. Let me think

712
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: I was twenty sixteen. I'm going to stay in a

713
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: home in Berlin, and so it's like old apartment like

714
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: I want to say it was World War two built building,

715
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: like posts world War two.

716
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure building right, it's a really old building.

717
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: The person was like, it's a subject that old nineteen

718
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: forties or so, that's World War two.

719
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: But when you're in Europe, there's buildings that are like right, right.

720
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's an old

721
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: building right now, live in an apartment that's like a

722
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties building, and to me that's I'm like, oh,

723
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: it's the old ast building.

724
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long enough time for people to

725
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: live and die and have full life.

726
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: Person that lived in my apartment either died, but I

727
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: don't think he died in the apartment. I think he

728
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: went to hospice. That's what my intuition was telling me,

729
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: because it was like on the counter like pill days

730
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: written like etched into the counter because like he just

731
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: had it written down on the countertop.

732
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I need to not forget.

733
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I'm so twenty sixteen, I move into this place.

734
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: I felt ill at ease the entire time I was

735
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: in there. One of these days, I'm like, oh, like

736
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: something's up with this.

737
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: Apartment, Like the walls want something they want something.

738
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: That's what I felt. There's an old record player, right,

739
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: the person who lived in there, they didn't have like

740
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: the kind of music that I thought the house wanted

741
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: to hear. But I felt like the house was telling

742
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: me I wanted to hear jazz music. So I start

743
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: going on my phone. I'm like jazz music like. And

744
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: this was when I wasn't a big jazz aficionado, Like

745
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: I didn't listen to a lot of jazz at this time,

746
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: but I start like looking up jazz songs and jazz

747
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: singers and I was like, oh, like Sarah Vaughn, Sarah Vaughn,

748
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Sarah Vaughn. I start saying Sarah Von. I start finding

749
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: Sara Von songs, and I plug in my phone and

750
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: you know how they had the ox cord and they'll

751
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: show her the I plug it in. I started playing

752
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: Saravan and immediately felt at ease in this apartment. And

753
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like, the house wants to hear

754
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: jazz music. So then when every time I was in

755
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: the house, I would just put on jazz music mmm,

756
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: because I felt like the house had been used to

757
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: that at one point. And then it stopped and it

758
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: was that the space itself did not feel at ease.

759
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: Apparently recently there was like a scary movie that's about

760
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: the house being like the house, how the house feels

761
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: about being haunted or something, which I thought was like interesting.

762
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: How the house feels Yeah.

763
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Like it was the house. The house is the thing

764
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: that's haunted, you know what I mean, Like it's not people,

765
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: but it's like the house actually feels weird and has

766
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: seen so much that it's reacting.

767
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's what a lot of people believe that

768
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: like the trauma, the memories and whatever, it can be

769
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: trapped in a location.

770
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I felt in that space. I was like,

771
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: it's talking to me, and it wants to hear this thing,

772
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: and I'm like one of the few people that can

773
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: hear it.

774
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: You know.

775
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: It felt very prescient, like jazz, Like I didn't feel

776
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: settled until I started playing that music in the home.

777
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: You're one of these people. If you wanted to, you

778
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: could become a world renowned psychic. I think I.

779
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: Think that would be scary for me. I don't like that.

780
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you need that. But the attention in

781
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: that way, no, No, you got other things going on, right,

782
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: But I'm really good at manifesting for sure. Like I

783
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: feel like this world can be malleable in a lot

784
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: of ways if you believe, and things don't have to

785
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: be as hard as we sometimes believe them to be.

786
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: But it does take patience, which I think a lot

787
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: of people lack, and that is why they get frustrated.

788
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: Like I have so many friends that I see I

789
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: think and also see potential in people and try to

790
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: guide them towards the thing that will work for them,

791
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: and then people kind of give up. Most people give up. Sure,

792
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: if something doesn't happen in a year, you know they're

793
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: going to kind of have to be crazy. I kind

794
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: of have to just like keep your eye on the prize.

795
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes be willing to shift like and be malleable. Like, Okay, Like,

796
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: perhaps this thing isn't working in the way that I

797
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: want it to work. I wonder if there's a different

798
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: way I can get there. Maybe I'll go two steps

799
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: this way and then up the road and then actually

800
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: I'll just do like a circle and somehow ended up

801
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: where I wanted to get to originally, but like the

802
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: path was weird and different.

803
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sometimes you just gotta do that instead of

804
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: going I'm just gonna go home.

805
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think a lot of people just end

806
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: up going home or giving up. And around the resilience,

807
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: I think also being trans we do have that power

808
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: of resilience and understanding that things take time.

809
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, you can see it through because you live

810
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: it like your whole existence is having patients.

811
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Patience is a virtue. I do believe that.

812
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: I believe that too. Yes, what do you think about

813
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: haunted dolls? And I'm talking like that doll? Is that

814
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: one Gabriel? No, that's Liberati girl.

815
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. It doesn't look.

816
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: White one, Gabriel.

817
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't like haunted. Are you haunted?

818
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: No, he's not. You passed the test. But that's a doll.

819
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a doll. But he's not haunted.

820
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: No, No, he's not haunted.

821
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: If anything, I'm getting a good vibe from this doll.

822
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: Actually, this is haunted.

823
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: This skull, this school is haunted.

824
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Do you pick up anything off of this skull? Okay,

825
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: here's I might tell you from what I've been told.

826
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Red lipstick, Oh interesting, what do you know? Tell me

827
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the gender of the person?

828
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: I just red lipstick.

829
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Red lipstick So are you saying that

830
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: only women can wear?

831
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: That's all. That's all I'm.

832
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: There's your conservative what's the tea? There's a in here?

833
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh red lipstick?

834
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. I have a haunted doll from eBay

835
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: dot com that I want to show you.

836
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: Let's get into it.

837
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living. Okay. This doll

838
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: is going for one hundred and sixty nine dollars and

839
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: sixty nine cents. And her name is I don't know

840
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: how you say this. I sold Eve is her name.

841
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: I it literally it's spelled I sold Eve. But one word,

842
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: I sold thevey. I sold thevey. Okay, yeah, gee, how

843
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: show as I sold avey?

844
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, no no, I don't like that. Really, girl,

845
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: she's scared. The eyes, honny know me.

846
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: She's got some very vibrant eyes eyes. She also has

847
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: ears that there's a situation there, right, you know what

848
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: this is giving?

849
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: This is giving like if it doesn't give haunted to me,

850
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: it gives that somebody tried to put their essence into

851
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: like a poppet, like something outside of themselves, and like

852
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: put some of their own energy into it. So it

853
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: is like energized. I don't think that like it's possessed.

854
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

855
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: Okay, it looks like she's wearing a wedding dress. Is

856
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: that a wedding dress? I mean yeah, I think so.

857
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: The dress is cute on seat. Yeah, Now that I

858
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: see it like wider, I'm like, oh, it's kind of cute. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

859
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: The face to me, it's giving, like somebody puts some

860
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: energy into it.

861
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and she's a blonde, kind of a conservative influencer.

862
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: Look to her face, trad wife. Okay, Well, she comes

863
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: with a bio. So it says this is only for

864
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: eighteen plus people. No children are allowed to buy this doll,

865
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: it says, I sold. The ve is a trans woman's

866
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: whose energy is velvet soft, hypnotic, and deeply self possessed.

867
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: She carries the aura of someone who spends a lifetime

868
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: balancing expectations and desire, learning to live as herself in quiet,

869
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: liminal spaces. In spirit, she has laid down shame and

870
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: moves with complete confidence in her identity, her body, and

871
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: her allure. Her presence is sensual and magnetic without being reckless.

872
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: She delights in chemistry, attraction, and the charged tension between

873
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: fantasy and reality. A solve is not shy. She steps

874
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: forward quickly with those who call her radiating iglamorous sultry confidence.

875
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: So basically, so I was right, Yeah, I feel like

876
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: whoever owned her put a part of themselves in this doll.

877
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: So perhaps this person never transitioned and they put the

878
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: transition to part into the of themselves into the stall.

879
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: Is what that gives? Everything you say to me gets

880
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: uh huh.

881
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: They're like, this is who they wish they were.

882
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they put it into this doll.

883
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: So could do you think that could still be someone

884
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: that's alive potentially but maybe not, like maybe it's like

885
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: a closeted person or like it was a I would say,

886
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: well does it say the year, because I would say

887
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: they're probably dead. Yeah.

888
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: From looking at the picture, like I said, immediately, I

889
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think it's haunted. I just think

890
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: that somebody put part of themselves into the stall. So

891
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: now that you're really.

892
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a much cheaper way to transition, right,

893
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: you could just do it in the afterlife through a

894
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: mean you like.

895
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Play with dolls or like you have dog, like somebody

896
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: was collecting them or had it on the shelf and

897
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: looked at it all the time or something.

898
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could believe. It says if you buy her,

899
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna get vivid story like dreams that feel intimate

900
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: and charged with emotion. It feels like she's a little.

901
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: Horny, right. Whoever's selling it is a little horned, I think.

902
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm.

903
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: Saying, girl, who's a seller?

904
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: What's the count? It says that you will You'll get

905
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: a sense of being watched in mirrors or reflective surfaces,

906
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: especially at night. You're gonna get sudden waves of confidence, boldness,

907
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: and heightened charm in social situations where I live.

908
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: She's kind of giving them like an amulet at this point.

909
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Just take her with you. Soft touches, tingles, or pressure

910
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: around the chest, hips or throat when she is near

911
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: synchronicities around roses, lace, lip color, and trans identity themes.

912
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: I can't even believe that this is like all on eBay.

913
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

914
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not in the haunted doll like purchasing.

915
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: World, so I am very much.

916
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: Are they a lot of the descriptions like this. This

917
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: feels like a lot. This feels like very descriptive.

918
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh, this isn't even I'm just reading you some bullet

919
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: points off of here. This. There's way more about this.

920
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: It talks about what she's looking for. She wants a

921
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: fierce ally or trans person to buy her, definitely eighteen plus. Yeah,

922
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: she it feels like.

923
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: She should buy her and put her on the shelf.

924
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: You know what, No, I don't need her coveting my trade,

925
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: right because you know she will. I'm looking at her

926
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: right now. She's already dressed for a wedding, right, I

927
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: don't need that. But do you think this is real? Yes?

928
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: I think it's real. I think it's real, but I

929
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: think it's whoever's selling it is like embellishing it a bit,

930
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: But I do think it's real.

931
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, you got to sort of dress it

932
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: up for the.

933
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Sale, right, it's feeling. I was like, this is giving

934
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: like somebody who writes stories and wants to write a story.

935
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: So they're having fun writing the descriptions, potentially maybe even

936
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: using AI to help them.

937
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, but they're like, okay Ai, so here's my doll.

938
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: She's kind of sensual, she's trans. What do you got

939
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: for me?

940
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Potentially that could be it? Do you see a lot

941
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: of those dashes in it M dashes. It's like where

942
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: it's like the dash in the middle like a of

943
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: a sentence to cut between phrases. That's like a tell

944
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: of ai AI because they often use like that to

945
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: separate sentences.

946
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't see that in this one, but that's good

947
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: to know. Or like E Moji's too. M. Yeah, I'm

948
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: in the same. Okay, let's do another thing. Can I

949
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices?

950
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it.

951
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev plice. Have you ever

952
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: heard the term EVP? No, can you explain that to me?

953
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: I would love to. It's electronic voice phenomenal.

954
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

955
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: So it's anytime someone that's like ghost hunting or they're

956
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: just like in a haunted place and they're filming or whatever,

957
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they're like, wait, I

958
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: just heard a voice, and then they play it back

959
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: and they're like, that wasn't me, that was a ghost.

960
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: So they posted on YouTube and then I have two

961
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: of them for you, and I want to play both

962
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: of these and then you're gonna tell me what you hear,

963
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: and then I'll give you ABCD option. And one of

964
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: those is what the person believes the ghost is saying,

965
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: m Okay, so this was coming from Canadian ghost hunters.

966
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Is the name of the YouTube channel, and it's at

967
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: Carobert Courthouse in Saskatchewan.

968
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to Saskatchewan.

969
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and the courthouse there to the people of Regina. Okay,

970
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: back to the Canadian ghost hunting Ready, what is thing

971
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: ghost saying? Hold on?

972
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 2: I'm ready?

973
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Okay? It sounds like shit, but there is a whisper

974
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: in there.

975
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: It sounds like.

976
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: But it's you can't be distracted by the fuzziness. There's

977
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: underneath it. There's like a top mile. Okay, it's a

978
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: little whisper.

979
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Maybe you need to run that through one of them

980
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: online programs where the AI separates the sounds, because that,

981
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: to me just sounds like nothing. That's a whole lot

982
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: of nothing and static on the TV.

983
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you some options and I'll tell

984
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: you they believe it's one of these.

985
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: Y'all are being serious back there?

986
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: Okay, here, you let's go. Is it a I plead

987
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: the fifth it's a courthouse? Is it b hey? Come out?

988
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: Is it c babe? I'm done? Or d yay, I'm bye?

989
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: Can you play it one more time you heard at

990
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: that time, I heard the rhythm.

991
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, I'm gonna say the third option.

992
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I forgot what that was. Babe, I'm done. They believe

993
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: it was hay come out, okay band, all right, here's

994
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: another one.

995
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know about that, but.

996
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, this one is from the same exact location, same location.

997
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: This ghost decided that they were gonna say no fuzz.

998
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna project. I'm going to articulate, okay something.

999
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: Watch it or something, oh watch it, or like, oh shit,

1000
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: it was like oh shit, or watch it okay something

1001
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: that's what it sounds like.

1002
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a push it? Maybe Sultan

1003
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: pepa fan b oh shit? Right, see don't slip or

1004
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: d ozam pick.

1005
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Push it? Wait, I heard push it? Oh I heard

1006
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: something I'd lived At first, I thought oh shit, but

1007
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: now I heard push it spooky.

1008
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: They thought it was oh shit. I mean, it could

1009
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: be any of it. That's just what they thought. Not bad. Okay.

1010
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: One last thing.

1011
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 2: Oh I kind of got that one.

1012
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you did. There's some prize. Okay. Last thing, I'm

1013
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna take an inventory of different unexplainable phenomenal and I'm

1014
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: just curious. We'll kind of do it rapid fire and

1015
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: just curious. What are your thoughts that come to mind?

1016
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Aliens real, Yes, they live on another planet.

1017
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: They're here right now, they're in this room right now,

1018
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: they're with us.

1019
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: They're visible or what they're.

1020
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: Watching us all NonStop? We are them also sometimes depends.

1021
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: Wait what this is not going to be rapid fire.

1022
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the next thing. You're not really

1023
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: back on the pot if you want to get if

1024
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: we want, we're gonna.

1025
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: Have to like fully go on a healiencountered alien. Yes,

1026
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: you had come on, tell us you're not to know

1027
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: you're not.

1028
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get your right. They're going to

1029
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 2: come off to come back.

1030
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: The people are gonna be so mad at you.

1031
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: Good, that's the way they don't want me to come back.

1032
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: So next week you don't want more? I like that.

1033
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Next question, what do you think of.

1034
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: Like, I've been abducted? That's another story.

1035
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: Why didn't we get this story?

1036
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: Next question?

1037
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: I had a time because.

1038
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: We were talking about witchcraft today and a little bit

1039
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: about aliens. But next time, you've been abducted. I have

1040
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 2: a belief abduction is like my favorite topic.

1041
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: Next question. Thank you, these aliens turned you into somebody

1042
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: that is not answering these questions my potential. Okay, what

1043
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: do you think of cryptid creatures like Bigfoot? Is like

1044
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: probably like that girl.

1045
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think it's like one thing. Probably

1046
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: I believe in those things. I think, like because mutations

1047
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: happen right in life. There are people born really tall,

1048
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: people born with like hair all over their bodies that

1049
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: look like dogs.

1050
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: Like.

1051
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of mutations that could happen, So I

1052
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: believe it.

1053
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it. But you think it's like a

1054
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: type of like human.

1055
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: It could be an animal mutation of other tings.

1056
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: We don't see these things every cha all.

1057
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: The time, well, because it's a mutation, so it probably

1058
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: happens once every Yeah.

1059
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: But when it happens, why are they like living out

1060
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: in the woods and we never get to see them.

1061
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure they would get like beat up or

1062
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: hurt and probably that one and probably some of them

1063
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: we never find out about because they just get killed

1064
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: as when they're young or little and they just like

1065
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: roadkill or something, you know what I'm saying. Okay, Okay, sure,

1066
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: that's my thought. I'm like, it could be other species,

1067
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: people could live under the ground. I kind of believe

1068
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: that too.

1069
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: What about you did kind of touch on this and

1070
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna be a whole other

1071
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: episode past live.

1072
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, to believe in it, But like, I think I'm

1073
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: kind of the numerology vibe where your life path number

1074
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: sort of dictates, like or your destiny number dictates, like

1075
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: if you've done this a few times.

1076
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: Or like a lot, or your destiny number.

1077
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: Mine is eight. So I'm kind of I've turned a few,

1078
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: like quite a few times. I'm kind of you're kind

1079
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: of done, not yet not fully done, but you have

1080
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: like another one after this, yeah, like maybe one or

1081
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: two maximum, Like I'm not gonna do it a bunch

1082
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: of times again. Yeah, I feel like I've learned a

1083
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: lot of the lessons in this life. It feels yeah,

1084
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: because I was like, yes, I get this, like I

1085
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: get this world, Like it's fine, yeah, yeah, yeah, and

1086
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: it's not like freaking me out or annoying me to

1087
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: the point of going crazy.

1088
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: What if being trans is one of the last ones.

1089
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: I would guess, but then I meet some trans people,

1090
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: But I think are dumb. I think it could be

1091
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: you know what I think it could be. I think

1092
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: like it becomes a really hard test of unlearning because

1093
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: some people really hold on to the things that they've

1094
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: learned from their parents, or their upbringing or the places

1095
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 2: their space. Sure, I think about like a Kaitlyn specifically,

1096
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: like a Kaitlyn Jenner type who ultimately is towards a

1097
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: white power agenda, conservative and all these things, and like

1098
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: she had the opportunity to actually impact change and didn't

1099
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: take it well.

1100
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: But her she had so many decades of living the

1101
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: life of someone that received male privilege and famous male

1102
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: privilege that it's like her lens is very blurred. This

1103
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying.

1104
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: But like, you know, she had the opportunity in this

1105
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: life to learn those lessons.

1106
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,479
Speaker 1: It's not over right, but I think clock's a taken

1107
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: Be careful.

1108
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm not texting her. I'm literally just saying, like that's

1109
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: my intuition. Like Sylvia Brown has been staring at me

1110
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: this whole fucking tis. Her books are all in here.

1111
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, there are a lot of these.

1112
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: These are just some of the Soyvia Brown library.

1113
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: I feel like I would be a psychic like her,

1114
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: where I would just say fucking shit, and like sometimes

1115
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: the things stick and that's like the.

1116
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Tea, but that's still pretty good. Like if you're right,

1117
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: Like if you're right half of the time, that's actually

1118
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable.

1119
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: I think that I would be one of those ones actually,

1120
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: because what happens is I just start talking shit in

1121
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: my mind and then sometimes that stuff happens in real life.

1122
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: Sure, also I have.

1123
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: To be careful. Actually, I was living with this one

1124
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: boy and he's a pisces. His birthdays a couple days ago.

1125
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: But like basically we would like be sitting on the

1126
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: couch and we'd have like conversations and whatever. We would

1127
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: talk about on the couch together in the morning we

1128
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: were like waking up. Eventually it might happen like a

1129
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: day or a day later, like we were talking about

1130
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: somebody and then he would run into them or like

1131
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: that's just like love the energy of our conversations. Like,

1132
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: so we would have to be careful about what we

1133
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: talked about because like things happened. Honestly, we made a

1134
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: lot of like jokes. I would like make jokes about like,

1135
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: oh my god, and then somebody got shot in front

1136
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: of our apartment.

1137
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: You made jokes about like somebody drama.

1138
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: We were making jokes about like fighting and drama and death,

1139
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: and then somebody died out front. But I don't think

1140
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: he died.

1141
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: He got shot.

1142
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: He was screaming for help, and we opened the door,

1143
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: and we like see this guy like laid out.

1144
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: And you think that the powers of you and that

1145
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: person together.

1146
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if in that case it was that

1147
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: we made it happen or that we predicted it in

1148
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: our conversations together, but definitely we've manifested, like talking about

1149
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: somebody and then he would run into them or I

1150
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: would run into them.

1151
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what do you think that is like manifesting?

1152
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: You think it's well, I.

1153
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: Think I'm a very powerful witch, as we said before,

1154
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: and like I'm a master manifestor. And sometimes accidentally it's

1155
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: always the things that you think are like funny jokes,

1156
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 2: then it's like he And.

1157
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: Then yeah, is there a fun conspiracy theory that you

1158
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: sub Oh gosh, can you give me some examples? Yeah,

1159
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: dlly pardon is tattooed all over her arms.

1160
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: I believe I could believe that.

1161
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: That's like a fun one.

1162
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm into the Mendela effect. I do believe.

1163
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I don't.

1164
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: You don't get into Mendela effect.

1165
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that we were kids and we

1166
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: were dumb, and I think that we a lot of times.

1167
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: Uh it's like the power of collective, like we're all like, yeah,

1168
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: that did happen? Like I think that you can go,

1169
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: you could see a car accident and then like fifty

1170
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: people are there and they're like one person's like yeah,

1171
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: and then like the car rolled over three times, You're like, yeah,

1172
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: did didn't it? And then I think like before you

1173
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: know it, everyone's like I saw it too, it rolled over,

1174
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: and then the tape plays and you see like it

1175
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: never rolled over, and then people are like, what the

1176
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: world changed?

1177
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're like Fruit of the Looms

1178
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: one is pretty okay, so the f Loom one is

1179
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: like cornicopia, no cornicopia, and there's no cornucopia.

1180
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: And so they say that there there.

1181
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: Was a cornucopia in the logo.

1182
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: See. But this is my problem with them, is that

1183
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: every single time I go, that's how I remember.

1184
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: It, with a cornucopia or no cornucopia.

1185
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: I remember it with a cornucopia exactly.

1186
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: But in this version of reality, there's no cornucopia in

1187
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 2: the fruit of the loom.

1188
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: There's never been. There's never been in a fruit alone.

1189
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, Like it's real. Even last night, Okay,

1190
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: so like a couple of nights ago. So last night,

1191
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: two nights ago, I was on Instagram and then this

1192
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: guy he's like been posting online about how oh my god,

1193
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: he is a part of a Mandela effect because he

1194
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: made a commercial, a Dorito's commercial that people are like swearing,

1195
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: like he posted his Dorito's commercial that he made like

1196
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, and people are like, oh, I remember seeing

1197
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: this commercial on TV. It never aired on TV. He

1198
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: submitted it as part of a competition and never went anywhere,

1199
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: and he posted it on YouTube and it only had

1200
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: eight thousand views on YouTube. And then there's like this,

1201
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: it's a million plus views on Instagram and he's posted

1202
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: all these videos talking about it, and it's like people

1203
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: keep commenting like I remember seeing this on TV. This

1204
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: was on TV, like this was the one that won

1205
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: and it wasn't. But a year later, in this reality

1206
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: there was a commercial that did win that had a

1207
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: similar concept of pigs flying m So there's.

1208
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: Like this is the same you remember that part of it.

1209
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: Well, what I think, what my thought is, like, yes,

1210
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: that idea that's similar. Like we live in like this

1211
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: sort of collective ether of imagination, and I think that

1212
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: if you're in a different reality that's similar to the

1213
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: one that you're in, things are going to be similar,

1214
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: just because of chance and happenstance, like the fact that

1215
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: even our planet consistent life. We have to be in

1216
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: the perfect position between these other planets and the Sun

1217
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: to be able to have life here on this planet.

1218
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like come on, like we literally, like I

1219
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: have to be in the perfect position. But if the

1220
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: planet was like like five miles different than where we

1221
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: are right now, maybe it's a different world, you know

1222
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1223
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: Letly different reality. It could be where there's no cornucopia,

1224
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: where there's no cornucopia. But then how do we how

1225
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: did how did we morph morph the two realities?

1226
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, because I think that consciousness wants to be alive,

1227
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: so your consciousness would like move to the reality where

1228
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: you're alive.

1229
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: There's people that think that we all died during COVID.

1230
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: I thought we died in twenty twelve. Perhaps that was

1231
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: the first death man, and then we moved into a

1232
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: new reality. I mean I've written stuff. I've written like

1233
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: fiction about that, like twenty twenty like that Oprah Winfrey

1234
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: would be the president in twenty twenty four, Like Oprah

1235
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: Winfrey whins president, but she's never ran for office, but

1236
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: if she did, Like it's the same type of vibe,

1237
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: like of a like reality TV star or like a

1238
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: star of the television you made this happen would run

1239
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: for president.

1240
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: What do you mean you wrote this out and it happened. No,

1241
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: it didn't happen.

1242
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: But I'm saying we have a reality No, no, no,

1243
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: I wrote it after this, But I'm saying, in an

1244
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: alternate reality, a different reality TV start as a person

1245
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: that runs for president, you get it. They kind of

1246
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: explore this and the Spider Man thing of like cannon events.

1247
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: Have you heard this phrase, or like there's a cannon event.

1248
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: So it's like the cannon event is that somebody dies

1249
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: in this person's life. And for each version of Spider Man,

1250
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: it's either their aunt or it's the uncle, but like

1251
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: somebody close to them dies, and so then each version

1252
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: of the reality is different. It's a different person that

1253
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: might die, or it could be two realities. Where it's

1254
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: the same person that dies the aunt, you know, but

1255
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: the aunt's name might be different in a different reality.

1256
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: Canon event. You never heard that phrase, like a cannon

1257
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: event is like for the characters.

1258
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: I remember when Mariah Carey had a cannon event, which

1259
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: was what we try to forget about that era was

1260
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: Nick Cannon.

1261
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say when she had like a

1262
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: nervous breakdown. You remember when that was like the conversation, Oh,

1263
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: like Maria, you had a nervous breakdown, she lost her

1264
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: voice or something.

1265
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: There's so many theories that like this celebrity died and

1266
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: now they've become replaced. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of

1267
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: that going around these days. Okay, wait, so I looked

1268
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: at the fruit of the loom thing. Do you know

1269
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: the website Snopes They like debunk things. So well, here's

1270
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: just something from FastCompany dot com and they wrote Snopes

1271
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: found that, despite this questionable photographic evidence, the company's logo

1272
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: has never had a cornucopia in it. Furthermore, Snopes argues

1273
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: this seems to be the case of the Internet suffering

1274
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: from Mendela effect. Author Fiona Broom came up with the

1275
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: name Oh no, this is about Mendel effect. But wait, wait,

1276
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: I want to find why do people think that there's

1277
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: because I felt I thought that there was a carnacopia.

1278
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh loom, you don't see you don't believe in the

1279
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: Mendela effects, like you just think it's people are just misremembering. Well,

1280
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: I think some of them, Well this is one where

1281
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's that one might be legit, that's

1282
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: a legit change, that's but there's like Berenstein, Berenstein, that's

1283
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: the other one. That's that one is really popular, and

1284
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: that to me, I'm like, first of all, most people,

1285
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: it's not like it was something that was on TV

1286
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: that we heard the voice all the time, like what

1287
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: we didn't hear the pronunciation of Barrenstein or Berenstein or whatever.

1288
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: So we just like solid and we said it the

1289
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: way we wanted to. There was a TV show and

1290
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: there was a song the Bernstein Bears.

1291
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: You remember it being the Bernstein Bears, And what is

1292
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: it really? It's Berenstain, barren Stain. It's Berenstain in this reality.

1293
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: See I remember it being the bren Stain Bear. You

1294
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: remember it being the bar baren Stain Bear. That's also

1295
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: the thing, there's like people that remember it being this way,

1296
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: and then said, I don't know, I really don't know.

1297
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: Well guess what. We're pretty much done.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was It went by so fast.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much that I want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. So the invitation is certainly.

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Speaker 2: There for you to count back if the fans demand it.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to look this good next time?

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Speaker 2: No, next time? Why don't you just put on a

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Speaker 2: dress and we'll call it even How about that?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't have to dim my light at all, and

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Speaker 2: I never will wake that up. Right, get the winning time.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're axing me, not a hex I'm

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Speaker 2: just telling you.

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Speaker 1: I rebuke. I rebuke you telling me what to do.

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Speaker 2: Don't you tell me what today?

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Speaker 1: I rebuke My fingers don't have nails on them right

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Speaker 1: now exactly, And that was your choice, you see. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: In the world, people will always try to tell you

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Speaker 2: not to wear the dress and not to wear the nails,

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Speaker 2: but you have to resist that and be yourself.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. No, I think that's good.

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Speaker 2: So you know what, I see the light in you,

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Speaker 2: and next time when I'm here, we're gonna both get like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna talk about our looks and we'll

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Speaker 2: show up to coordinated.

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Speaker 1: Well, you stole our heart today. Thank you. Can you

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01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: please uh tell us like where people can find you

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: because you have so many things.

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Speaker 2: My website is star went two three four dot info.

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Speaker 2: My Instagram is star Amarasu s t A r A

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Speaker 2: m E r A s U. Always going viral, like

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Speaker 2: I feel like the new viral is like if you

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Speaker 2: get like one hundred thousand views, Like that's like semiviral,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's not bad because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: get a million views in this economy. Yeah, that does

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Speaker 1: for something that's not this like reactionary or stupid. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like kind of and you're DJing all the time

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Speaker 1: and a dj anyway. Love you, bye, love you, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, bye, Thank you so much. This star,

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Speaker 1: we obviously have to have her back. If you didn't know,

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: we do have YouTube video episodes of pretty much every

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Speaker 1: single one of our episodes that come out a week later.

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Speaker 1: So if you go right now to YouTube to exact,

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: he writes, a YouTube channel, you can watch a video

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Speaker 1: of last week's episode and eventually that will change. The

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: will come out the same day as the audio podcast,

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01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: But if you're someone that likes that visual element, you

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 1: can watch all those episodes there and exactly writes YouTube.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me

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Speaker 1: came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want

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Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

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Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 1: show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 1: by the chilling Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark,

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Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz

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Speaker 1: Hernandez on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.