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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: a Paranormal podcast Network. Now get ready for another episode

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Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. The thoughts and

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Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. Remember each week this is the

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Speaker 1: place you go to when you want to find answers, insight,

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Speaker 1: or just comment about things that are out of the ordinary, mysterious, intriguing.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's angels to aliens and shadow

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Speaker 1: people to hat Man. We discuss it here on this program.

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Speaker 1: But having been the person that introduced to paranormal phenomena

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Speaker 1: to the world shadow people in hat Man, I do

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Speaker 1: tend to get more of those more than anything, but honestly,

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Speaker 1: I welcome especially love near death experience stories, love angel

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Speaker 1: encounter stories, love holy encounter stories. In fact, I've written

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Speaker 1: more books on those topics than I have on these

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Speaker 1: demonic things. But hey, I like to keep it open.

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Speaker 1: So you guys, go to Heidi Hollis dot com, send

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Speaker 1: me as much detail as you'd like in an email

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Speaker 1: from the site, and tell me what's been going on.

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Speaker 1: How does it make you feel what was going on

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Speaker 1: in your life when these things happen. These things are

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Speaker 1: really important because it helps me to determine and to

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Speaker 1: what exactly may have happened and why. Now. I will

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Speaker 1: also say the website, I have a page there where

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Speaker 1: you will be able to see a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that I discuss here on the show. Go to

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Speaker 1: the radio page and it will indicate some of the

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Speaker 1: details here from this program. You know, I have to

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Speaker 1: say as well, if you want to come on this

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Speaker 1: you're also welcome to do that. I don't just have

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Speaker 1: to read your emails off on this program. But hey,

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Speaker 1: going to start off with a very detailed email here

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Speaker 1: that comes with some intriguing images that you will see

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Speaker 1: which I love. This is going to really really help

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Speaker 1: is what's going on in this person's life. It starts

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Speaker 1: off with, Hey, Heidi, I hope you're doing well. I

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Speaker 1: finally have my story l O L. So here it is.

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Speaker 1: I've been chatting with Heidi for a while and she's

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Speaker 1: a godsend. Oh that's sweet of you. I'm telling you, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you find me online and you want to chat,

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Speaker 1: why not. So okay, she continues, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 1: it's the hat Man. Anyway, here I go. It took

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Speaker 1: my tablet weirdly shut off. That's a comic currents, believe

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Speaker 1: So I don't know all these details. And I didn't

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Speaker 1: it shook me to my core. I looked him up

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Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Just before

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Speaker 1: the break, I was talking about this very detailed, large

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Speaker 1: email that Marcia from Newfoundland sent over. And I like

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Speaker 1: these types of emails because it really gives me, and

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Speaker 1: you're the listener, in depth visual on what was taking

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Speaker 1: place throughout a person's life in encountering something like the

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Speaker 1: hat Man. So Marcia shared how she was three years

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Speaker 1: old hat man shows up and how he has these

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00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: shark like teeth and another time where he came at

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Speaker 1: her and luckily it didn't cause her any harm, but

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Speaker 1: she hid under her blankets, fell asleep, And I thought

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Speaker 1: that was peculiar because that does happen to a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. It's like, I can't help but to think

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00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: something else maybe going on when that happens. So this

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00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: is the next day, and she says, I asked my

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Speaker 1: mom if anyone else was in the house, but it

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Speaker 1: was only me, her and my old stepdad, and he's

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00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: not tall like the hat man. So a couple of

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Speaker 1: years later, I think I was fourteen and was staying

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Speaker 1: at my friends for the night. She slept in her

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Speaker 1: tiny bed and I took the floor. Halfway through the night,

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Speaker 1: I awoke to crushing pain and pressure, like someone was

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Speaker 1: sitting on my chest. Oh no, I couldn't breathe or move.

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00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I thought instantly something was attacking me. It felt like

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Speaker 1: it was fighting me. I finally was able to scream,

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Speaker 1: waking my friend, who instantly turned on the lights. Out

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00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: there there we go. That's that's my move. Lights come

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00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: on for me. It's like, oh, it's terrible, okay, so

466
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: she continues. After she turned on the lights, she pulled

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Speaker 1: me in the bed with her. I was crying and

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00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: holding my chest from pain. We honestly didn't talk about

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00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: it much, but I knew it was the Hag. She

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00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: is well known here where I live. I'd hear stories around.

471
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: We also believe in fairies. We have many stories and

472
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: lore of them here. Ghost stories were normal to hear about.

473
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, that's fascinating. You know, different culture is different areas,

474
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: They have different understandings, and here we are. So the

475
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: old Hag, believe it or not, is seen oftentimes with

476
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: the hat Man um directing or hanging out with them.

477
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: Says she is very similar in her approach with hat Man.

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00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: She she's hideous looking, first of all, and she kind

479
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: of comes at people while they're sleeping and renders them

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Speaker 1: paralyzed or in pain. They feel like they can't breathe.

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Speaker 1: Just this horrifying, horrifying sensation. Nothing cute to look at,

482
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: just nothing, alright, so she continues, But I had to

483
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: be careful in what I'd say as a teenager because

484
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: at the age of sixteen, I was diagnosed with schizo

485
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: effective disorder. Oh my gosh. I was in mental hospitals

486
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: my whole teenage life, drugged on pills. I had shocked treatment,

487
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: had to be fed by others because I'd be knocked

488
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: out on pills. They'd have a nun and the priests

489
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: come in to pray next to me. So I didn't

490
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: talk on the hat Man due to doctors saying, oh,

491
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: it's just a part of your hallucinations. But my sister

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00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: believed me. But I did get sick. I would see

493
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: shadow people a lot, but they called them hallucinations as well. Okay,

494
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I have to stop right here. So people who have

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00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: been rendered or called as having mental illness, they do

496
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: tend to have a lot to say about shadow people

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00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: and hat man UM. And it's like, I'm not a physician,

498
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: not a doctor, so I can't say somebody does or

499
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: does not have these disorders. But I'm noticing these connections,

500
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: these similarities, and these people are cognizant and aware and

501
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: are noticing these things and connections too. It's something that

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: I've noticed in my many years of practicing UM and

503
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: working with those who have various mental illness, and you know,

504
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's something that has brought me to

505
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: an understanding again. These dark things look for weaknesses, they

506
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: look for ways to get at people. So are these

507
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: people just more aware and more sensitive? Um, It's not

508
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: my position to say that, but just to see that

509
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: this is definitely something that is going on. She continues.

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00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: I've seen a woman who ran beside my car. I've

511
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: had my stereo and my room turn on full blast,

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: waking me up. We even had the stereo in the

513
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: living room turned on by itself during the night, waking

514
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: us all thinking how strange. It was strange. Let's see,

515
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: it's extremely strange. I mean, who has that? Um, just

516
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: you and me? Marcia's kidding. So yes, stuff was real,

517
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: But I also believe sometimes that I was sick. I

518
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: do suffer severe depression anxiety, but luckily still since I

519
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: was twenty one, I've been in remission and I still am.

520
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: But I still have to take pills just so I

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00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: don't go back. But since finding out the hat Man

522
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: was in fact real, I started questioning if I was

523
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: really sick to begin with. But I know it's too

524
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: late for me. I'm thirty six now and I've suffered

525
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: a lot in my life. These pills are probably the

526
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: only thing keeping me from losing it. I was diagnosed

527
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: with other things. I won't go through your list here.

528
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: So I'm sick every single day in pain. I worked

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00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: at a mental hospital for ten years before getting sick

530
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: and having to quit, and that hospital was haunted as well.

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00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh that just adds to it, doesn't it? My goodness? Um,

532
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: But now I've decided to accept my mission on this

533
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: earth is to help others, especially with seeing hat Man

534
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: and unknown things. My sister's family is a military family.

535
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: They always live close to airports and on military basis.

536
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: They said they could be out on their patio and

537
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: just see UFOs. Her son has awoke to see a

538
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: few aliens around his bed. Her daughter hears and feels

539
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: spirits in a room and will close her eyes until

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: whatever it is goes away and turns on her light.

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00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, they've lived in a haunted house themselves

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00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: with spirits running about. My mother sister has felt her

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00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: bed go up and down, talks at times like someone

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: is sitting there, as well as having her foot grabbed

545
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: and pulled. Myself, my mom and sisters, we have done

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00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: tarot gosh. I wouldn't recommend that. Uh. They did my

547
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: cards a couple of times in a row to see

548
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: if I'd get the same card, and the card I

549
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: got was the Devil. They pulled the same card every time.

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00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I still get that card to this day. The best

551
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: thing we could do with knowing the unknown is true

552
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: is that with this knowing, I feel we are given

553
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: a gift to help others and to hopefully open their

554
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: eyes more. Because if Heidi is correct, that's me. I'm

555
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: just kidding. With the hat man being Arimon, which is

556
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: something I announced here on this show a couple of

557
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: episodes ago, which I fully believe she's right. I've done

558
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the research my off and was like, yes, this is him,

559
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: Like holy crap, answers finally l o, l oh, my gosh.

560
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: That's uh. That's quite the reaction to it. And let

561
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: me tell you how it was like a deer in

562
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: headlights myself when um I saw the sculpture that was

563
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: done of hat Man and it happened to be from

564
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: a hundred years ago by Rudolf Steiner, and he said

565
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: it was a character called Ariman that is essentially the devil.

566
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, hat Man is the devil, and

567
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: yeah that's his face. Creepy, crazy stuff. You know. To

568
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: comment here, Marcia, he started at three years old having

569
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: seen hat Man. And if we go and say people

570
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: have shared hallucinations around the globe and the thousands, I've

571
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: personally received emails and storieses been told me in the

572
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: thousands when it comes to hat Man, could we all

573
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: truly really be having the same hallucination? I have had

574
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: others in your situation that have seen him and other

575
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: dark things. And it's not like you're looking for this, right,

576
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: It's like like you said, you stumbled across something online

577
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: and lo and behold you look a hat man and

578
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: you find me. And it's such a pattern. Guys, it's

579
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: such a pattern, and it's not something that is in

580
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: us to try to make up. It's pretty specific. Hat man,

581
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: three piece suit, trench coat, sometimes he's got a cane.

582
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's wearing a cape, sometimes a trench coat, sometimes

583
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: a hat, no hat, top, hat, gaucho, hat, fedora. He

584
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: changes it up, and that nasty grin if he is

585
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: dare to smile. You just don't forget it. It changes

586
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: who you are, so even at the age of three

587
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: years old, to have your reality challenge like that and

588
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: it plays upon you. It does. You relive it, your

589
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: rehash it, and you're more cautious, Like you couldn't handle

590
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: seeing a mask. So I get it. I didn't like dolls.

591
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: I didn't like clowns because what did I see as

592
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: a kid. I saw a robotic toy clown come after

593
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: me and my sister when we're kids, and it caused

594
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: us to pass out. Now, I want to just brush

595
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: that off and just let it be, but my sister

596
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: remembered it too, so it's like, Okay, I know I'm

597
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: pretty sane. I'm pretty stable, and I have the support

598
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: as well to understand that. You know, my whole family

599
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: will experienced things. Your whole family experienced things I don't understand.

600
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes when people have a little bit too much of

601
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: an experience, everybody else takes a step back and goes, Okay,

602
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: that's all you. But it happens, you know, it can

603
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: push some of us over the edge and it just

604
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: change who we are. So well, we're gonna continue this

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. And just before the break, I am going

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Speaker 1: over this extremely detailed and large email that I welcome,

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Speaker 1: So everybody go to Heidi Hollis dot com if you

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Speaker 1: have a comment, experience, or suggestions that you'd like me

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Speaker 1: to address here on this program and just send it

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Speaker 1: through the website. It is highly welcome that you tell

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00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: me about what was going on in your life if

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Speaker 1: it was an experience, and why you might have the

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Speaker 1: position that you do and the p sspective that you

649
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Speaker 1: do as to why certain things happen to certain people,

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Speaker 1: because there are a lot of very subjective factors that

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Speaker 1: I've been finding over the years. So and if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to be a guest on the show to again

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Speaker 1: share your experiences or your research, I welcome that as well.

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Speaker 1: So again Heidi Hollis dot com and I will be

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Speaker 1: keeping my eyes out for your messages. Okay, So Marcia

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00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: continues with her email. She goes, this year, I have

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00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: been awoken from my sleep to someone coming in my room,

658
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Speaker 1: walking around to the other side of the bed and

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Speaker 1: just stand there looking at me, before sitting on the

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Speaker 1: bed and staring at me some more. Then when I

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00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: decided to look after a few minutes, no one's there.

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00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: At first I thought it was my boyfriend. He said

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. Then it happened a few more times while

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Speaker 1: he was far away working. I think it's the hat

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00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: Man doing this again, But I won't give him the

666
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: pleasure of my eyes meeting his, and hopefully I'll never

667
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: have to again. But knowing Arimon, the hat Man, well,

668
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: he wants to be seen exactly. That's what I tell people.

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Speaker 1: I love that Marcia and others like yourselves out there

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Speaker 1: listen and take some of the stuff in when it

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00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: comes to some of the things I've come across, because uh,

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00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: it has been a long time, a couple of decades now,

673
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: pulling these stories together and this research and background, and

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00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: to stumble across Ariman. So I go to my episode

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Speaker 1: that has titled the Big Reveal on hat Man because

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00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: that's a doozy, and the eighth sphere that is an

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00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: other doozy in connection to what is being discussed here

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Speaker 1: in this email. All Right, so she continues, we just

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00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: have to research about him and everything else bad and

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00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: good in the unknown world and learn to control our fear. Amen, sister.

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Speaker 1: I think the more I know, the better I'll be

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Speaker 1: at being prepared if he or his minions come back again.

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00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: And I believe Heidi and others are right. He has

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Speaker 1: the Hag the black eyed children to shadow people working

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00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: with him or for him. This is why I think

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Speaker 1: he has a lot to do with other things in

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00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: my life. Yes, yes, indeed, even that hag experience I

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00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: had was probably him. And in Heidee's book, listen to

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Speaker 1: her advice on blessing your home and the other ways

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00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: to combat the evil. That's very kind of you again there, Marcia,

691
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: um best to keep ourselves as safe as we can.

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00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, this is my story. It's hard putting it

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Speaker 1: in order and explaining it perfectly, but I hope it

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Speaker 1: helps others. And a big thank you to Heidi for

695
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: all the work that you've put in to this and

696
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: try to give us the best answers to the hat

697
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Speaker 1: man as you can. You are a blessing, Hidill I'd

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Speaker 1: still be lost a few hadn't written your book. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many can agree to the same peace and love

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Speaker 1: to everyone. We are going to be okay, Marsha, that's

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00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: that really? That just touches me. I Oh, I'm I'm humbled. Um.

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00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: You know, I have spent many, many, many years being

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00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: the sole person that takes these emails and I still am.

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00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's answering these emails and um,

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: and over the years I was like, you know, you

706
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: could you could charge for that, Like, I'm not a psychic,

707
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, It's like, I'm not this. I'm not that.

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00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I want to see people do

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Speaker 1: better and be Okay, this this threat, this threat, this

710
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: hat man threat, shadow people threat. It is so real, guys,

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00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: it is so real. It's it's nothing to be taken lightly.

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00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: And U I know it's uh seems repetitive sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I talk about some of these things, but it's also

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Speaker 1: very necessary, all very necessary. And you know, if I

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Speaker 1: were just pulling this stuff out of a hat, not

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Speaker 1: intended to have that pun But if I was just

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00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: pulling this out of the air, how about that that's better? Uh,

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00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: And saying and well, everybody, this is the real deal.

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Speaker 1: I just stepped off the bus and I figured I'll

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Speaker 1: just tell you this. No. Um, it's a really really

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00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: peculiar thing to say. And I've been doing talk radio

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Speaker 1: and whatnot for a long time, and I've interviewed a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. I've asked these questions to see, have

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Speaker 1: you heard of somebody that's done this? Remember this? You know?

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Speaker 1: So in my background, I remember before I was born. Okay, yeah,

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00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: I've heard of people like, oh, I chose my parents.

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00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. I don't remember choosing my parents. UM.

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00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: I remember agreeing to be born in order to do

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Speaker 1: exactly what I'm doing right now, which is warning about

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Speaker 1: these dark things, these demonic things, this devil thing. I

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Speaker 1: remember coming from a light and just being plain, plain

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00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: and painfully honest. How about that. I'm just I don't

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Speaker 1: know how else to put it. I remember these things.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be regressed. I wasn't trying for anything.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to walk across my living room to

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Speaker 1: go to the bathroom talking to my friend. UM, I mean,

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Speaker 1: nothing was in my mind, and I was shown who

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Speaker 1: I was and where I was coming from and why

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Speaker 1: I was here, and it was really really difficult. I

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00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: was in college at the time, didn't do drugs, wasn't

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Speaker 1: a drinker. Um. And having that revelation and remembering, whoa

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00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: what am I doing here? I'm going to school to

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Speaker 1: become a therapist. This is not what I came here for. Well,

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00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: I gotta get busy. I have no time. I gotta go,

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00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go, I gotta go. It was so important

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00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: and I get goose bumps sitting here talking about it

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00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: every time I think about it. I have no doubts

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Speaker 1: about what it was I came here to do, and

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Speaker 1: I've never stopped since those days. In the beginning, I

750
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't practice as a therapist for several years because I

751
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: was just burning the road, trying to get around the

752
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: conferences to tell people, to warn people these things are coming.

753
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Prepare this is what you've got to do. And it's like,

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00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: who is this chick, Why is she doing this? Um? Well,

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00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I agreed to do this. I came here to be

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00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: doing this. UM. So when I see message getting distorted

757
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: out there, ah, it can't be. It just can't be. Um.

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00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: It's got to be corrected. People have got to be

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00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: helped the right way, and that is my goal. That's

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: my goal. So UM, I've never charged a person to

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00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: talk to me. I've never charged a person to get

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00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: a response from me. I don't do that type of thing.

763
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: I figure a soul is priceless, you know, silly me. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, and I've tried to make

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00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: my books. They were free through a program they had

766
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: on Amazon until they stopped that, but now through Kindle

767
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: and Limited the books are all include it. So trying

768
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: to help people, I get such weirdness. I mean, people

769
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: are so bizarre in the paranormal world. If you haven't noticed, um,

770
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: every once in a while, I get, Oh, if you

771
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: really want to help, why don't you make your books free?

772
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, you work for free to write because I

773
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: know I do. It's uh yeah, it's like, well, let

774
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: me let me go and pay for all the paper

775
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: and hand it out to you. I can't do that,

776
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: you know. It's people are such butt heads, that's all

777
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: you could say, right. I don't get it, um, but

778
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: somebody could go on right, uh about falling in love

779
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: with demons and having demon children or something, and there's

780
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: no question, like, wow, they did such a service to

781
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: mankind there. So you guys, I know where I'm coming from.

782
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: And UM, I know why I'm doing what I'm doing.

783
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: And it's like, I share these things as painfully honestly

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00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: as I can. And I use my real name. A

785
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: lot of people don't use the names in this business.

786
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: You might think they are, but they're not. Ask them, UM,

787
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: and I understand why I do. UM, but it's like,

788
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: I I know, uh, this is just what I'm supposed

789
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: to be doing. So UM, I put it all out there.

790
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: I do it all the time, and I would do

791
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: it all over again because it has been absolutely rewarding

792
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: from the soul of me. It's such a pleasure and

793
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: such an honor. And you know, I didn't read this

794
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: email prior, and it's just you know, it just touches me.

795
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: I get these types of responses and I'm like, you

796
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: know that one email made all of this worth it,

797
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: just to say one even to say one person, it's

798
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: that worth it. So I think we have to place

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00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: the value on ourselves and on individuals in this battle,

800
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: this age old battle between good and evil, it's on.

801
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: It is on right now. People expect seeing chariots in

802
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: the sky. Well, the UFOs are about to be revealed officially, right, Um,

803
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: that's what you call it um. So it's been going

804
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: on and they're battling it out in the privacy of

805
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: their own homes. I fight for their lives, I know,

806
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: I have fight for your life. And then you're like

807
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: crawling into work and and you look like you had

808
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: a fight with the devil and you did. But who's

809
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: going to believe you without slapping a title on you

810
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: as being having an issue of some kind. So it's

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Speaker 1: not easy, guys, it's not easy, and so I get it.

812
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: But do you know what One step at a time,

813
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: pulling our hands together, in our hearts, minds, and souls,

814
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: all of that's what it takes so we can win

815
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: this battle. Everybody's hoping the end of the world is

816
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: here now, and I'm like, if that's true, we're going

817
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: to lose way too many people. We've got to get

818
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: it together before that happens. So again we've come to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of another program. I hope you enjoyed it

820
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: as much as I have, and sharing here again. Go

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Speaker 1: to Heidi Hollis dot com send over whatever is on

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Speaker 1: your mind. You have been listening to Dark Becomes Light

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Speaker 1: with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranoma Podcast Network and we will

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Speaker 1: catch you next time. God bless the goodbye everybody. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait

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