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Speaker 1: The off season is coming to a close, ME and

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Speaker 1: James want to give you one more final free agent video.

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Speaker 1: We each came up with our own list of five

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Speaker 1: free agents we think the Mets could, should, and maybe

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Speaker 1: would sign this offseason before we hit spring trade, before

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Speaker 1: we hit opening Day. Truthfully, some of these guys probably

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Speaker 1: you guys. And yeah, I mean, like the list isn't pretty,

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Speaker 2: I think my five will be kind of very me,

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Speaker 2: I think this obligatory, which kind of inspires this video.

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Speaker 2: Because per Christ was on the Red Sox Report there

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Speaker 2: the Mets are connected with ty France. Right now, and

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Speaker 2: that kind of gather juice is flowing for doing a

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Speaker 2: Mets roster right now, but also given their kind of

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Speaker 2: shifting philosophies this offseason, and makes a heap of sense.

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Speaker 1: It does, but I also hate it. I absolutely like

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Speaker 1: talking about it because ty France is just like a

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Speaker 1: this point. And this is this says a lot about me,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season. I would rather find out if

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Speaker 1: Mark Viendo's has even announced left of what he had

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: Like, well, there was. There was the falling in love

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Speaker 2: First base in the year he's spent with two different teams.

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Speaker 2: Production Wise, I don't think he's like a fine He's

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Speaker 2: But also two years ago Ty France was very bad

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Speaker 2: If you can make a deal for us to get

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Speaker 2: Seen will say anything specifically about this, But I still

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Speaker 2: It is funny, though ty France does again still fit

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Speaker 2: I just I wonder if there hasn't been a good

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Speaker 2: Basically were looking for a right handed bat, Like why not?

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Speaker 2: But again, he's just it's hard to stick him on

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Speaker 1: the other best picture available on the market right now.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a pipe tream, especially because right now I

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Speaker 2: Also, it's funny if you look right now on the

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Speaker 2: best freeges available MiB dot com list them. I think

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Speaker 1: Guys who legit really like might be DFA candidates on

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Speaker 2: Basically, if you're not going to get a guy right

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Speaker 2: But he's I do agree that we could use probably

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Speaker 1: I keep and he does have velo. I forget about it.

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Speaker 1: He's got vella. He throws ninety eight. It's it's a sinker,

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Speaker 1: Box yourself in. All right, number three, I'm gonna also

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Speaker 1: needs to play every single day.

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Speaker 2: You could play second, you could play short, you could

436
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Speaker 2: play third, play first, play left. I don't give a shit,

437
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Speaker 2: but like go out there and you need to get

438
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Speaker 2: four played appearances a day.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like messed up what we're gonna say here,

440
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Speaker 1: but like he needs to play every single day so

441
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Speaker 1: that God forbid, there is an injury to somebody in

442
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Speaker 1: the lineup, he's the starter. The guy who takes that

443
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Speaker 1: spot on the team right now should never be the starter.

444
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Speaker 1: Even if there's an injury. That's Ronnie Mauricios wherever it

445
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Speaker 1: eventually does end up, that's where he plays. But don't

446
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Speaker 1: have him on the major league roster until then. Let

447
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Speaker 1: someone and you better not say who I think you

448
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Speaker 1: might as a guy, because I'm gonna be so you're

449
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Speaker 1: not gonna tell me, ikf.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, but my my number four is a conglomeration

451
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Speaker 2: of infielders.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ru'm a cop out. I'm gonna run through

453
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Speaker 1: the pros and cons of each one, because I do

454
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Speaker 1: think that we're going to leave this offseason with one

455
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Speaker 1: more infielder. Because again, I just I don't think Ryan

456
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Speaker 1: Mariso is going to be an opening day roster, which

457
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Speaker 1: is not a shot at him.

458
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Speaker 2: He just needs reps. And I just think that I

459
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Speaker 2: think that we can beat vdel Bruhan. I think we

460
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Speaker 2: can be V Brewhan with this spot. I think we

461
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Speaker 2: can get someone better.

462
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Speaker 1: I would hope we could be.

463
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Speaker 2: So with that being said, here's my list. And also

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Speaker 2: you mentioned hek is a lefty masher. The wayest roster

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Speaker 2: is right now, we don't really.

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Speaker 1: Need the lefty master anymore. Well, the first time you

467
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Speaker 1: say that a long time about the mess, it's more

468
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Speaker 1: about with like Carson Ben and left field too, like

469
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Speaker 1: you could actually and left. Yeah, and I think my

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Speaker 1: number five is a is a right handed cadvy for

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Speaker 1: Carson Bench. Possibly I think we have the same number five,

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Speaker 1: then we might have a different I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: I actual kind of deeper found one I didn't expect

474
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Speaker 2: from mine. But so I have a milange over here

475
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Speaker 2: for outfielders Mortgesporing, if.

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Speaker 1: You will, and they are.

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Speaker 2: We went outfielders here, I thought, infield, in fielder side

478
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Speaker 2: bad mispoke. So here's the four and then we're gonna

479
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Speaker 2: go through pros and cons for each one. It's gonna

480
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Speaker 2: be a fun little sixty five minutes segment.

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Speaker 1: Podcast rant about the IKF.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's gonna crash the car right up right off

483
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Speaker 2: the interstate right now, the Van Wicks, someone's from screaming,

484
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Speaker 2: am Ramona Reus. I don't hate it IKF Darrostrada, he

485
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Speaker 2: got shot. That's dog that was like that was like

486
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Speaker 2: seven years ago now and then still and then Luisi

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Speaker 2: Arius so to eureus is on here.

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Speaker 1: Family is on here. So first one we got Ramone.

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Speaker 1: Here's the pros he can be, plus the feder second

490
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Speaker 1: and third base. He's been that forever.

491
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Speaker 2: He was like such a meme with the Orioles because

492
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Speaker 2: especially in the fantasy baseball circles, everyone's like, why is

493
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Speaker 2: Ramonia Reus playing every day? Let's get any prospect onto

494
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Speaker 2: his team and playing, and all Ramonia Reus did with

495
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Speaker 2: stave off the young guys as much as you could

496
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Speaker 2: until they finally got knocked off the team this year.

497
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Speaker 1: So they're like Jordan Westbrook's just better. I think he

498
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Speaker 1: finally got traded and again non tendered by the Astros.

499
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Speaker 1: But the other thing about Ramona is that he kind

500
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Speaker 1: of always had this rep as a lefty masher. At

501
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Speaker 1: least that's something guy've internalized. I went through all the

502
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Speaker 1: stats from the day to today, not whatsoever, not in

503
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Speaker 1: the counting stats, not in the underlying stats, but not

504
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Speaker 1: at all. So he probably isn't anything close to even

505
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Speaker 1: a league average hither. Like I think ty Franz profile

506
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Speaker 1: is a better hither than Ramonia Reus, but Juria's profile

507
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Speaker 1: is a much better defender second and third, if that's

508
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Speaker 1: what we're possibly seeking, I think he's I think he's

509
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Speaker 1: a fine option for that. Like, is it crazy to

510
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Speaker 1: say that I'd rather have defensive insurance for bobahe at

511
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Speaker 1: third than I would for Hori Polanco at first? Yeah?

512
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Speaker 1: Possibly is I think I think Horry Plank was just

513
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Speaker 1: gonna be a good first baseman' and at worst he's

514
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Speaker 1: gonna be like probably still better than Pete was defensively

515
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Speaker 1: at worst, Yeah, or at worst.

516
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Speaker 2: And again, like there's been I think we went over

517
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Speaker 2: this a few episodes ago, where there's just been a

518
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Speaker 2: lot of these kind of guys who have moved down

519
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Speaker 2: the defensive spectrum to go from like second or third

520
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Speaker 2: to first and just been good the whole time, Like

521
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Speaker 2: it's never really been an issue. This was a good

522
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Speaker 2: tweet from Andre's all of them. Yeah, if Mets Metrics

523
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Speaker 2: had this tweet like a month ago now where he was.

524
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Aronda did it. He was really good at first.

525
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Speaker 2: Michael Bush did it. He was fine at first.

526
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Speaker 1: Van Jr. He's pretty good at first.

527
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Speaker 2: Okay first, Cold Keat did it fine at first. Like

528
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Speaker 2: all those just happened in the last like eighteen months,

529
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Speaker 2: two years. Yeah, Bot mcgraid a little bit before them.

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Speaker 2: There's just there's a good list of guys who have

531
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Speaker 2: done this. Yeah, Coronaworth did he was pretty good. Luis

532
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Speaker 2: Rise almost did it, but he was actually significantly worse.

533
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Speaker 2: Thank god, he's not a conversation here anymore.

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Speaker 1: Next one different. I KF.

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Speaker 2: So here's the pro he is actually still an elite defender.

536
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Speaker 2: He is really good, and this would give a real

537
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Speaker 2: meaningful backup at shortstop. This forty man roster doesn't really

538
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Speaker 2: have right now with all like it kind of but

539
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Speaker 2: I think I think I have definitely better defender short

540
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Speaker 2: than Bobashad. Yeah, here's the big contract AF he sucks.

541
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Speaker 2: He's terrible.

542
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's a good vibes guy.

543
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Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't think. I don't think he

544
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Speaker 1: is anymore. I think the fact that the Blue Jess

545
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Speaker 1: lost the World Series because he didn't.

546
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Speaker 2: Take a lead, it's just like you're like, got jeez,

547
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Speaker 2: Like I don't know to look that guy in the

548
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Speaker 2: eye in the clubhouse.

549
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Speaker 1: But it like and there's just there's no way for

550
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Speaker 1: me not to be mad in April and IKF is

551
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Speaker 1: like doing anything like it's just for my mental psyche.

552
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Speaker 1: I can't have him on this roster. I can't do it.

553
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Speaker 2: I would feel the things that like everybody else felt

554
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Speaker 2: with a Joey Wendell situation.

555
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Speaker 1: Yes, with I CAF that would be my Joey Wendel.

556
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Speaker 1: So I think he'll be Zach Short again.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to throw him on here because I

558
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Speaker 2: feel like there's probably been in a conversation, but I

559
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Speaker 2: don't think it's possible. Next one tyro Strava Tyron Straw

560
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Speaker 2: is interesting. The injuries have really piled up over the

561
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Speaker 2: last few years, especially last year being I think it

562
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Speaker 2: was a wrist and a really bad hamstring knocked him

563
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Speaker 2: out for the whole year. When I had him on

564
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Speaker 2: so many Deep Fantasy should have been great, but like

565
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Speaker 2: two years ago when he was on those Giants teams

566
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Speaker 2: like he was a good player, like he played every

567
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Speaker 2: single day, was good. Especially twenty twenty three and twenty

568
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Speaker 2: twenty four, he was an elite second base defender and

569
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Speaker 2: that was with Kai Korea, like they were he was

570
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Speaker 2: the infil coach for those teams. So I think that

571
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Speaker 2: little connection there, I think is something. And he doesn't

572
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Speaker 2: like he doesn't swingle pool noodle, he makes lots of contact,

573
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Speaker 2: like he doesn't strike out very much. Just not the

574
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Speaker 2: worst power in the league, like he's He's someone who

575
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Speaker 2: I think is interesting, but his hamstring might be roast

576
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Speaker 2: beef because we haven't heard the worry about him anywhere.

577
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Speaker 1: No nobody has made a move after him at all,

578
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Speaker 1: and the Rockies said we'll take Willie Castrop. Last time

579
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Speaker 1: we saw him, I think had a twenty five WRC

580
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Speaker 1: plus for the Cubs in the second half, So I

581
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Speaker 1: think also the Louis from he still out there. I

582
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Speaker 1: didn't even mention it, but he is. But he's he's

583
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Speaker 1: pretty bad. He had the one pop off here where

584
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Speaker 1: he made changes and said I'm gonna go back to

585
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Speaker 1: the bad version of myself. Swing slower, hit the ball worse.

586
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Speaker 1: He's terrible. We also like getting Angels cast offs because

587
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, coaching, this could help. A change of

588
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Speaker 1: scenery is probably the best thing I could have. You

589
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Speaker 1: know what's crazy? Think about the change of scenery. Schoeyotani

590
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Speaker 1: was incredible when to the Dodgers.

591
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Speaker 2: Even better, way better, significantly better. Imagine Mike trave for

592
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Speaker 2: got a change of scenery might actually win something. Cared

593
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Speaker 2: about winning last one, quick one.

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Speaker 1: Luis Urias, he's the youngest of his crew of twenty

595
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Speaker 1: eight years old, so I think that's kind of meaningful.

596
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Speaker 1: These other guys are all in their thirties. He will

597
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Speaker 1: be an angel. He was a former top prospect. He

598
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Speaker 1: was a former top project. Which trait was he? Because

599
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Speaker 1: he came up with the Brewers? Was he? He came

600
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Speaker 1: up more than Hadres, I believe, and he went to

601
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Speaker 1: the Brewers in one of those Padres Brewers trades. He

602
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Speaker 1: went something like Andre's Brewers, Red Sox Mariners. He's been

603
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Speaker 1: all over the last I think see Josh Hater he

604
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Speaker 1: might have been Josh Hayden.

605
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Speaker 2: I don't think he was Josh Hail Hayden got him

606
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Speaker 2: up real quick. Gossa and Taylor Rodgers. Yeah, look, while

607
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Speaker 2: I talked about it real quick, but just again fits

608
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Speaker 2: what the Mets have been seemingly seeking this offseason, which

609
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Speaker 2: is very high contact rate, good swing decisions. He's always

610
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Speaker 2: been a poll flyball guy, which I think is good,

611
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Speaker 2: but he's never actually been ever any kind of productive

612
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Speaker 2: at the play.

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Speaker 1: For a moment in his career, he was traded with

614
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Speaker 1: Eric Lowerd to the Brewers for Zach Davies and Trent Grisham.

615
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Speaker 1: That's a legendary trade right there. That's baseball. That's that's

616
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Speaker 1: good ball. That's baseball.

617
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Speaker 2: Susan David starting for that one. But also the other

618
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Speaker 2: thing about Urry.

619
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Speaker 1: David Surge connection there you go right there.

620
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Speaker 2: But I think about Reis as bad. That defense has

621
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Speaker 2: been horrible. It's supposed to be play, Yeah, it's been

622
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Speaker 2: really bad. So again I just threw me in here

623
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Speaker 2: because he's twenty eight and like maybe there's some kind

624
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Speaker 2: of reclamation thing there. But from this group, I think

625
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Speaker 2: I think Ramon Reus is my favorite one, but I

626
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Speaker 2: just think that would probably want to get a better

627
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Speaker 2: bench infielder than Vidal Brujan.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think the Met's are thinking that too.

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Speaker 1: All right now, to kind of talk about the last

630
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Speaker 1: two guys and like with each other because your last

631
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Speaker 1: guy's an outfielder too. Yeah, trying to find the caddy

632
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: for Carson Bench. First option to me was Austin Slater

633
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Speaker 1: he was on the Yankees last year. Was mash Yeah.

634
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Speaker 1: He just he mashes lefties. He literally crushes them, like

635
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Speaker 1: nine hundred ops against lefties, like he's really, really good.

636
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Speaker 1: That's the only thing he's done his entire career, and

637
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Speaker 1: he will be a major league player for another two

638
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Speaker 1: three years because of that. He doesn't lead off at

639
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Speaker 1: times when lefties were on the mound because he is

640
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Speaker 1: that good against them, and I do think makes a

641
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Speaker 1: ton of sense with Carson Bench. Again, it's gonna kill

642
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Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor. Tyrone Taylor's gone off this team. If that happens,

643
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Speaker 1: you can't carry that many outfielders. That's kind of I

644
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Speaker 1: guess the question. And they might just keep Tyrone around

645
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Speaker 1: because if he plays left field on the days where

646
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Speaker 1: there's a tough lefty on the mound, One, Tyrone does

647
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Speaker 1: hit lefties better, and two you're gonna get elite defense

648
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Speaker 1: out in left field like him and Robbert next week

649
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Speaker 1: next to each other. That nothing's dropping in the left

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Speaker 1: on the left side.

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Speaker 2: I think that the thing know why the Mets would

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Speaker 2: probably still try to keep Tyrone Taylor. This still might

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Speaker 2: come at the expense of running Risio s Pop. Then

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Speaker 2: you have no actual infielders. But unless Brett Bady could

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Speaker 2: do all the infield stuff, it's just you know that Robert.

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Speaker 1: The injury get hurt. The injuries have been bad.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to lose actual plus plus defensive center

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Speaker 2: fielder off your for the man unless they're that confident

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Speaker 2: in Carson Bench, which would be a real like nuts

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Speaker 2: on the table kind of moment for this management team.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about that. But slay theer's just like hit ball,

662
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Speaker 2: hard run, fast, good arm, good defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty much what it is.

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Speaker 2: And like there's there are other options out there, and

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Speaker 2: right now, how we just had the conversation of trying

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Speaker 2: to beat VDL bru hunt for a bench in fielder.

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Speaker 2: Right now, there's a chance, especially if Carson Bench doesn't

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Speaker 2: make the opening day roster, which is possible, that that

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Speaker 2: bench outfielder spot is Christian Pache as the right handed

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Speaker 2: bat of the bench. And like I I don't really

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Speaker 2: want Christian Pache maybe on this major league team. I

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Speaker 2: think he's probably also dope. At least it's a great

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Speaker 2: defender against similar to Tyrone Taylor, but like other options

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Speaker 2: would be like Randall Gritchick we've talked about, but his bats,

675
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Speaker 2: I think felt too much last year is probably over.

676
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: Miguel and Duhart cannot play defense. Starling My Tay will

677
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: not play defense. Mark Cannon and Tommy fan me actually

678
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Speaker 2: the other right handed outfielders out there, and that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: Mark Cannon was my other guy because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm really having a hard time, and you know what

681
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Speaker 1: he was. He talked about elite vibes. Mark cant just

682
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: one of the nicest guys ever. Bring me a nice

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Speaker 1: guy back, that would be it. But I do they

684
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Speaker 1: just you gotta find a way to be Christian Pasche

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Speaker 1: was his roster spot. I think like I would, I

686
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Speaker 1: would love for like Mark Hanna to like let Carson

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Speaker 1: Bench stay in his apartment with him, Like that's where

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Speaker 1: Carson be a good story, live with Mark Cannon, to

689
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: eat good food, make sure at the ballpark on time,

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Speaker 1: just just be like a glorified babysitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but that's part of the deal. Like I

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Speaker 2: I don't really want starting my ted doing that.

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Speaker 1: I don't put his elite vibes, but but the vibes

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Speaker 1: are bad. Last year the es were bad. I ever

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Speaker 1: talked about how great of a vibe guys Starling Ma

696
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Speaker 1: Tete was, but the vibes are apparently horrible, So I

697
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: don't know how good vibes. He could have been Francisco

698
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Speaker 1: Lidoor and want so that's why.

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00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But I mean I was also like Tyrone

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Speaker 2: Taylor if he could just be Carson Bend his babysiting,

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Speaker 2: I think that'd be fun too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I think that'd be good, like the country boy Carson Bench,

704
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Speaker 2: like hanging out with Tyrone Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that'd be a fun thing.

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Speaker 2: I just think it seems like they're going to try

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Speaker 2: and get like a few more roster fill in types

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Speaker 2: of guys.

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Speaker 1: We try.

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00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: Wanted to try and cast a wide net here, but

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Speaker 2: weirdly not not the ballpegs. Seems like that's the one

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00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: spot they're not gonna try and do it. Yeah, and

713
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: there's just not really that great of options either right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a few, but mostly like the real

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00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 2: ones got got scooped up.

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Speaker 1: You know which which makes sense. Yeah, it's February third,

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Speaker 1: we're recording this.

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Speaker 2: Like yof Cser the other guy would consider for the spot,

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Speaker 2: mccutchem would be good, vibes.

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Speaker 1: Would be good vibes. I would actually love to see

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Speaker 1: Andrew mccuchen play a little left field for this team.

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Speaker 1: The thing is that Andrew McCutcheon come April thirtieth might

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Speaker 1: be cut, and I just I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: Andrew mccutchon get cut. Yeah, as possible, but I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be like a better version of Starling Marte to me,

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Speaker 1: like I think he I would love Yes, yes, definitely.

727
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: And right as of right now again because Carson Back,

728
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Speaker 2: I think Carson bed will be on this team asap

729
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Speaker 2: because I think they want to do the PPI.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be on team opening day. Everything

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Speaker 1: leads who's playing left field, Tyrone Taylor. I really think

732
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: it'll be Tyrone Taylor, and like, I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: Carson Bench. It'd be very funny the DH Bobachette opening

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Speaker 1: day and let Brett Baty play third. Like these little

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00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: teeny tiny quarks of this roster still don't feel super

736
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: worked out, but also do they need to be No,

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00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I guess not, but like I think I actually think

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Speaker 1: that's exactly why we don't have a DH is so

739
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Speaker 1: that these little quirks can just be like, go play DH.

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Speaker 1: Yeah whoever, just DH or I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean it would also be really weird an opening day,

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Speaker 2: Like if Mark Fianzo's dhing and Brett Baidy's on the bench.

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Speaker 1: What if what if I give you, well, that won't

744
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: happen because called Paul Skins dispitching Brett Bady's pulls starting

745
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: opening day? Yes, that left handed bat? Now on what

746
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: if I told you something crazy? What what if they

747
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Speaker 1: just DH Carson Bene. I think it's a really good defender,

748
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: he's like his canon for an arm But like against

749
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: you just put Tyrone out on the outfield, get that defense.

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Speaker 2: I guess that that might be the way, but like

751
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: also I think Bathy's probably better. They're base bobet still

752
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: no defensively, defensively, Yeah, it's it's very funny to work

753
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: all this stuff out. Like I think Marcus Simeon is

754
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: a better third baseman than.

755
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: Defense possibly is.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Marcus Amity can do. I've

757
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: been doing like some second base stuff for like just

758
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: positional stuff, fantasy baseball coming up.

759
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, maybe maybe it's not Maybe he's

760
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: not cooked, I hope. So same with Polanco. It's like

761
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Speaker 1: the fact that these three guys in the middle of

762
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: the or there's like, like, I like Polanco, I'm not.

763
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Speaker 1: I mean video I was like, okay, but like not

764
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: because of him. It's just more of it again. We

765
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: still kind of had fresh wounds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's just funny looking at his team

767
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: right now, Like I still like this team a lot,

768
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: and we've been doing a lot of the full league

769
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: contact stuff for the winds up.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like Mercenary Mets. I'm going to be actually

771
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: lowkey glued to spring training games. Oh can't wait. I

772
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: gotta see what I want to see. A grand Ball

773
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: hits to Bobi. Shit, it's gonna be definitely an adventure

774
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: early on and hopefully by the day that the games

775
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: actually start mattering, we feel confident and everybody at every position. Yeah,

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: this is the first time we've actually taken a deep

777
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: breath that dust has settled, like after like what was

778
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: a crazy ass six weeks and it's like WHOA, this

779
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: seems really different, and I think this team is really good.

780
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: Teams really really good. Definitely really good. But I'm excited

781
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Speaker 1: to see how it gels. Love to know who you

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Speaker 1: guys think the Mets should sign down in the comment

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Speaker 1: next one. Peace out the guys.

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