WEBVTT - Canelo Alvarez vs. Terence Crawford Predictions w/ Nick Schulman | Nick Wright Boxing 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome in What's Right with Nick right as promised a 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:11.440 special bonus episode one of our now very few two 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:17.959 time guests, our Boxing and Gambling and Poker correspondent. But 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.799 in this episode we are going to focus exclusively on 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.280 the boxing piece of it for and tell me if 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:29.320 I'm wrong, not just fight of the year, but arguably 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.320 the fight of the decade the last few years. At 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:37.280 the very least, it is Poker Hall of Famer and 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:42.800 for my money, the sharpest of the boxing sharps Nick Shulman, Nick, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.839 great to see you, Fight of the year, fight of 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.320 the decade. How excited are you for Canelo Crawford? 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:53.280 So excited? Great to be here. Every time football comes back, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.720 it's like I sort of remember what a big sort 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.320 of deal you are, you know, so I really appreciate 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.600 this crazy because you're my boy. You know, I'm kind 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.120 of just poker in the fights. But whenever it come like, 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.760 oh yeah, you know, I'm very honored to be here, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.640 and well I know how hard you work. So thank you, sir, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:11.360 Thank you brother. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.440 We have been listen. If people didn't see your last appearance, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.960 I'm gonna give a quick recap of it. So Nick 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.720 told us many Pakiao can win that fight. Yeah, throw 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:26.280 the shades on. Nick said, many Pakiao can win the fight, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.800 and Nick got Packiau at plus four hundred correct four 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.520 to ten, but fo ten okay, no, no, I'm not changing 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.360 I'm not going to short change you ten cents. He 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.119 went off at two to one plus one ninety plus 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.559 two hundred something. You got a great number. You were 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.320 at the fight with six seats, and I don't think 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:50.800 in the moment realized the gravity of how bad you 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.240 got scammed in that fight. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.320 I realized he was minus eight hundred on Penny Live 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.280 after that the tenth rounds. Yeah, but so. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.160 Any somehow that fight ended up being a majority draw, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.480 which is just as painful as it gets. And but 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.880 you were definitively on the right side of it. And now, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:17.680 to be fair also, and here's the thing, I love boxing, 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.800 but I love boxing the way some of the professional 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:28.000 poker world loves, you know, like the EPL where they 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.560 watch it and they bet it. But if you asked 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.520 him to take like a hundred question tests, they wouldn't 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.320 do great on it. And so I can't speak with 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.960 real authority, which is why I bring you on. But 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:45.400 you really liked some an undercard, and so I was like, listen, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.440 this was the one. I forget who it was, but 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.680 he wasn't want to. I don't want you to tell 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.919 me because it'll spoil the story. And so I bet it. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.840 I was like, yeah, Nick likes it. I bet it. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.800 I and I was rolling with you. And then we 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.800 turned the fight on and I I see the guy 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:08.680 that I bet against is six eight one fifty. I 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.440 text you and I'm like, yo, we got like a 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.320 foot and a half height difference, and you just sext 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.400 me back. They don't call him the Towering Inferno for 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.239 nothing that our guys just couldn't lay in the shot. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.799 But well, yeah, go ahead, no no, I mean no, please. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:33.079 So but during that preview of the Pacquia fight, we 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.600 talked to little Canelo Crawford. You gave away Ivy's gambling position. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:43.280 We talked about this, the magnitude of this fight, and 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.400 we said we were gonna do this again. So I 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.560 am now, and I'm also gonna say one more thing 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.720 and then we're really I'm gonna see most of the 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.000 floor to you because I do this. And by the way, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.520 people are watching as Nick drink some wine, I have 0:03:56.600 --> 0:04:00.240 one rule for the podcast. If I am doing doing 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:05.160 broadcasting after six pm Eastern, I'm drinking during it. This 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.080 is we are taping this on a Wednesday night. My 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.200 friend will yeah, thank you. It will post sometime. I 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.839 think either Thursday or Friday. Set you up for the fight. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.440 But I'm doing this for three reasons. One is, it's 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.520 the fight of the year and it needs to be covered. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:30.080 Another is I love the idea of boxing becoming super 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:34.799 mainstream again. And and I want to help however I can, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:40.880 because at its core, there is something just human about 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.799 wanting to watch two grown men stand in the center 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:50.440 of a ring and see who wins comes out and Third, 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.600 and this is the part that Nick may or may 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:58.800 not appreciate. I happen to truly believe that Nick Shulman's 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:04.279 boxing knowledge t plus his broadcasting chops would make help 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.080 make boxing more mainstream if he was a part of 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:13.120 some boxing broadcasts. So this is my entry point to 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.320 pushing him in that direction. So I am going to 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.720 essentially interview you as if I know nothing about the fight, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:21.760 even though I know at least a little bit about 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:26.279 the fight. So the story going in for the undefeated 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:31.159 Terrence Crawford against the legend Canelo Alvarez. Is that he 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.880 is jumping what from one fifty four to one sixty eight? 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.120 How set the table for how he even got to 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.680 one fifty four? He being Crawford and is that the 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:43.560 story of the fight. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.520 That's I mean, aside from them both being all time greats, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:53.520 that's absolutely the main focal point here. A weight jump 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:58.640 of this magnitude is quite rare. You've seen guys move 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.760 up the ranks. You've seen pac Yao beat bigger guys. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.920 Roy Jones Junior, nobody thought he'd ever be fighting at 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.760 light heavyweight heavyweight. He was up there doing crazy things. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.800 Sugar Ray Leonard beating Marvin Hagler is the one that 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.680 everybody really talks about. Nobody gave Ray Leonard a chance 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.600 in that fight, and he went in there and boxed. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.240 You know, he did his thing. But yeah, to move 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.719 up two way classes like this is somewhat unprecedented in 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:30.560 the modern era. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:32.440 Why is he doing it? 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.239 Well, it's interesting. You know when they first announced the fight, 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:43.599 I will admit I was thinking, Wow, they made Terrence 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:48.120 an offer that he can't refuse to lock up generational 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.280 wealth for his family. But This is wild that the 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.719 number one pound four pound guy has to go up 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:00.320 multiple divisions to fight, you know, the one of the 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.000 best guys at that weight. Perhaps Canelo's slipping a little bit, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:09.440 but that was just my knee jerk. And even Terrence 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.200 said himself in an interview that he feels his ceiling 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.600 is one fifty four. He said that fairly recently, So 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.040 I'm like, I gotta take him at his word. But 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:26.680 now that things have come to a head and the 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.720 pre fight has happened and everything, I think he believes 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.440 he will win. I think his team believes he'll win, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:34.440 and I believe he'll win. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.360 So the and we'll listen. The market is not If 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.520 the I don't listen, you get a sharper price, probably 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.120 than most would. And you've been looking at this for months. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.640 But as we sit here today, it's right around minus 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.000 one fifty five, minus one thirty five or plus one 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.280 thirty five, Like is that where I don't know what 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:57.239 I was seeing? 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.360 More like one eighty one sixty. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.520 All right, So then I listen. So he I mean, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.920 with Canelo being the favorite, the point I sew Canello 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:12.680 is the favorite, but he is not a overwhelming favorite. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.160 He's not even that substantial of a favorite for our 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:20.440 if if it is minus if it is minus one eighty, uh, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.280 just to give context for that, for our you know, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.520 football fans out there, that is the same as the 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.760 Packers money line when they're a three point favorite against 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.200 the Commanders for Thursday Night football, like minus one eighty is. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.240 Though those upsets happen all the time, so the so 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:44.320 is it fair to say this? The boxing world believes 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.120 Terrence Crawford's the better fighter at this point than Canelo Alvarez, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:55.319 But because of the weight change, that is what's tilting 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.920 the scale. Not that people think Canelo and this is unfair, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.760 but is purely a better fighter. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.520 You know, it's so interesting, Nick, It's like every take 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:10.240 you hear, for the most part, Canelo's too big, he's 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.839 too strong. If you talk to the public, that's what 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.599 everybody thinks. And there's a few takes from trainers to 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.720 that really kind of bothered me. Joel Diaz and Abel 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.040 Sanchez come to mind. They're just saying, like Crawford's got 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.640 no shot. Love him, but you know he can't do 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.520 anything to Canelo. I'll take you back to the last 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:37.480 time I bet against Crawford. It was twenty sixteen. I 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.680 was playing the World Series of Poker and I was 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.560 playing with Ivy. I was just playing cash. But uh, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.320 and once again just qualifier. I'm not a tout. You know, 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.600 I'm gonna black out and go nuts and give all 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.760 my picks and plays. But just so you guys know, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.840 you know, protect yourself at all times in the betting. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.640 But Ivy said, you know you like the fights, right Nick, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.199 you want to go to night see Budd? I said absolutely, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.320 So he slid me a ticket and he was fighting 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.800 Victor post All and he was something like minus six hundred. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.520 I got somewhere around six to one on post All. Rangy, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.320 good Japs, smart, Eastern European. I'm always high up on 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.240 the Eastern Europeans in general because they tend to be 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.120 quite humble, pragmatic. You know, maybe a little bit of 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.760 that's from poker, but also in boxing, they're a little 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.240 bit slept on. In America. Sometimes this is a popularity contest. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.720 These guys can really fight. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.400 I don't want to interrupt. The story is who's the 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.199 favorite in this? 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.800 Going back to twenty sixteen, Crawford was a six to 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:39.760 one favorite. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.760 Okay, so Crawford was minus six hundred. YEA bet the dog, 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.040 you bet, I've got the dog, got it, go ahead, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:45.719 so keep going. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.160 I pulled up to the arena, and, you know, much 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:53.120 to my pleasure, I realized I had the best seat 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.440 in the house and I was alone for four rounds 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.120 as Crawford was getting his shit off switching stances. I 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.480 knew he was great, but this was like something really 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.800 special and the camaraderie with his team and everything. Ivy 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.240 pulled up middle of the fourth round and spent the 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.280 entire fight on his phone betting basketball, you know, just 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:25.000 eight seven and a half, not eight right, texting, you know. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.800 Every once in a while he'd like pop up and 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.880 come with like a yes sir, you know, but then 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.400 right back to work. So finally in the ninth round, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.319 I said, by the way, Phil, uh, do you have 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.400 a sat Did you bet this fight? He said, oh, 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.320 this fight? Uh, I have Crawford, Nick, But you never know, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.160 it's boxing. Anything can happen. He got this smug kind 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.199 of smile, you know in a Bronx taill when when 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.760 when mush bet the horse and Palmentary rips up the tick, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.319 That's what it felt like. I was like, okay, right, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.800 And a lot of people don't know this, but ever 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:03.160 since then, I've I've actually been business partners with Bud. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.680 And the business plan, yeah, it's it's crazy. And the 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.559 business plan it's a really simple one. He goes out 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.120 there and fights and I bet on him every single 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.360 fucking time. And guess what, nick business has been booming. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.600 Why would I switch up on my man? Now you 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:22.240 know what I mean? 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.880 So this is so, this is what I want and listen, 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.120 die hard boxing fans. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.600 And by the way, sorry to cut you off, but 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.760 after post all he rattled off eleven straight stoppages. They 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.600 call his resume to question. But he beat Jeff Horn, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.160 who was undefeated at the time, who beat Pacyao. He 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.440 beat David Benavitez, his brother in a in a fight 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.680 where he didn't really engage, and then he found just 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.840 a gorgeous stoppage. He beat a mere Khan, he beat 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.760 kel Brooke. We'll get into it, but but he beat 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.679 the mean machine kaval Yawskis, who's great. Please just sorry, go. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.959 On, no, no, no, so you got you got exactly 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.160 where I was going. And I promise for Canelo fans, 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.040 we're gonna get there. But I want what really perked 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.400 my ears up about this is when we were talking 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:13.480 about this a month ago and you said, Ivy, and 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:18.520 now I'm gonna sidebar it real quick. I have. This 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:22.520 is a weird thing about the way I'm wired because 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.160 of the industry that I'm in and the people I've 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.560 been around, because of the industry that I'm in versus 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.439 poker and the poker world, I have been lucky enough 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.520 to I mean, I guess I can say this because 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.719 it was public. It was I didn't talk about it, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.920 but it was all over the internet. A few months ago, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.439 I'm in a Grizzlies game and at the Grizzlies Lakers 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.560 and at the end of the game, Lebron James comes 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.440 over hugs My wife tells her it's great to see her. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.280 DAPs me up and like and I was, as you know, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.800 as Leonardo DiCaprio would say in The Departed, My hand 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.520 didn't shake like that felt. It didn't feel normal, but 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.840 like it was. It wasn't like a as big of 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.400 a thing as I think people would assume. Here Friday night, 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.280 I'm going to Kansas City to do our first things, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.640 first show, but then after the show, Patrick Mahomes Steakhouse. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.320 This is grand opening, and I'll probably get to spend 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.680 some time with Patrick, who I've become I consider a friend. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.160 That's not like I'm I'm not saying that for any 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.520 reason other than like to set the table for what 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.040 I'm about to say. With that said, about three months ago, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:45.440 I was in Vegas at the World Series with Jared 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.240 Blesnik and Blez is like, hey, you know what I 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.080 was with Blez. But it wasn't Bleaz who did this. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.520 It was Nacho Barbero, legendary Nacho. I see him as 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.320 for poor people. And Nacho says to me, have you 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.240 ever met Ivy? And I'm like, no, I actually it, 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.080 And Nacho says he's like, oh, you have to meet Ivy. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.800 And in that moment, my heart raced like I was 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:14.120 a child, like my nerves of the situation. It was 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.520 so unlike anything that's happened to me as an adult, 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.760 because if you don't run in those circles and you're 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:28.520 a poker fan or gambling fan, he is Lebron Mahomes 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.240 whatever you want, like this legendary, large in life figure. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.880 Which is why I say all that to say this 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:41.920 when you said that Ivy thinks Bud might be the 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.160 best ever pound for pound, the best ever, I was like, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:49.160 holy shit, that's not gonna be a comment that's thrown 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.880 around loosely. So my question is I know he's won 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.600 of all these fights. What has happened over the last 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.000 decade that is there a moment? Is there a sequence 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.320 of moments? 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But and 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.239 I've ran this back hundreds of times, and I'm not 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.600 saying that to sound deep. I just he landed the 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.800 shortest little right hand. They're both on the inside, kind 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.520 of like right on top of each other, and they 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.920 punch at the same time. As the legendary Connor McGregor 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.399 once said, timing beats speed, and precision beats power. But 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.520 it shocked Brook to where he kind of didn't know 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.080 where he was. And if you go watch it for 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.240 people that haven't seen it, it's the knockdown before the 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:48.639 stoppage for the official stoppage. That's one. Another one was 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:53.440 Jose Benavitez Junior comes to town, comes to Omaha, Nebraska 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.120 or abut Is from starts going to the barbershop, starts talking, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.800 starts talking crazy, right, but then he gets out there 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.160 and fights really not to win, big respect to Jose 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.359 and the whole family, but he's kind of on the 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.120 back foot. It's hard to look great against these guys 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.840 who don't really engage. He's just kind of jabbing, moving, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:17.720 shaking his head. Nope, And somehow, some way Bud found 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.000 him in the twelfth round and put him out with 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:26.359 a crazy upper cut sequence. Wild stuff. And again, do 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.200 I think Canelo would have beaten kel Brook and Jose 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.440 Benavitez Junior? Yes, I do, So you know we're not 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:37.399 overlooking the task at hand. Another one was the Sean 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.600 Porter stoppage. And there's a clip that any boxing fan knows, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.800 but it's going into the eleventh round. I believe maybe 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:50.320 the tenth. I believe the eleventh Bud's corner says, we 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.119 think he might be up on the cards. He wasn't, 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.639 by the way Porter that is, and Bud. Bud looked 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.560 really surprised, and he said he's up, and they said, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.720 you know, we think he might be up, and he 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.560 said it again. He kind of said how and he 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.160 looked at another member of his corner and he said 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.480 he's up, and they said, Bud, it's time to go. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.239 Got him right out next round and it was an 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.720 amazing sequence. He sort of faked a left upper cut 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.120 then let it go. It was like really beautiful boxing, 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:27.639 sublime skills. There was one knockdown. Reporter was genuinely, you know, 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.400 shocked on the canvas. He looked at his corner, then 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.199 he got up. Then there was another knockdown where they 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.080 had a wild exchange in the center of the ring. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.119 That's where Porter started punching the canvas. It was a 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.960 very kind of poignant moment. I guess you know, he 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.359 fought his ass off. He's a legend, but it was 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.880 just kind of like and his dad threw the toweling 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:54.280 Kenny Porter in the corner. Did David Avenisian knockout in 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:59.040 the center of the ring, a fairly unsung fighter, but again, 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:04.600 this is an incredible display of power from in Cloak. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.040 They were off the clinch and he put him out 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.560 close cold in the middle of the ring. This is 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.119 when he went to another promotion BK Prime or whatever. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.760 It was a little bit odd, but that one was shocking. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:24.160 And of course Nick the aerrol Spence win in its entirety, 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:29.000 but especially the little right uppercut he landed off the 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.760 ropes in the seventh or eighth round. That's a shot 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.400 where when you watch it you don't know what happened. 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.320 Spence just went down. You have to run it back 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.280 to see how crisp the timing was. This guy's throwing shots. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.720 When you think about throwing something, it's not the timing 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:52.040 is impeccable, all right, I mean that was This is crazy. 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.240 Shit going on with this guy is when all time 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:58.080 great and people are so sleep like the bud disrespect 0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.840 has gotten wild. And listen, I will eat all these 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.280 words if Canelo pieces them up and it's just another 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.560 day at the office. But it's not gonna be. He 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.120 might not be able to win or overcome the weight. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.960 But these guys that are acting like this isn't a 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:15.239 generational talent who's already unified two divisions and jumping up 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.679 two more to go for a third. What are we 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.280 doing here? Okay, so a few things. 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:27.359 Here that That's why I that Nick Shulman needs to 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:28.800 be on these broadcasts. 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.800 Any fight fan. There's millions of fight fans out there 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:33.680 who can rattle off all those highlights too. But I 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.359 love you, brother, thank you. I'm not trying to. 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.480 I know I make you uncomfortable, But the point I'm 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.119 making is, you're right. A lot of people, there's a 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.760 lot of fucking people, bro, who know all the stats. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.720 I know, but I I'm I am, I am aware, 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.760 but they can't deliver it the way I can. That 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.919 was That was awesome. Here's my question before we go 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.800 to the Canelo's side of things. It's actually a two 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.200 part of the first one. Is this because I'm gonna 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:03.000 show my own ignorant. Is it fair to say Madromov 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.240 is not like a great fighter? 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.840 No, No, that's unfair. Actually, okay, he is a great fighter, 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.400 and I feel really sorry for whoever has to fight 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.040 that kid off back to back losses to Crawford and 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.960 Virgil Ortiz. That's the same Madromov who was a heralded 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:24.640 amateur who Dimitri Beeval brought into camp to prepare for Canelo. 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.000 And let me tell you something, nobody's gonna look good 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.639 versus that guy. You might get the job done, but 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.600 no one's gonna do that guy. Like so people love 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.720 talking about that performance, like bud By the way bud 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.160 pieced him up and clearly won and had to wait 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.720 for Turkey Ala Sheik getting into the California Hall of Fame, 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.600 eight different concerts, Strobe lights, a smoke show. It was 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:51.080 a crazy delayed event. No problem. The game is the game. 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.719 But let's not acct like he went out there and 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.760 looked bad. I really that's not. 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.320 Even that's not even why I was asking. And it's 0:23:58.400 --> 0:23:59.960 kind of why I was asking, But here was the point. 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.680 So Madramov is a great fighter. He you know, back 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.320 to back, tough, elite. He's very good. Very is reserved 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.199 for Okay. Sure, but he's he's not a he's not 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.639 a walkover. That's a real fight. But here is okay. 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:18.520 Regardless of that, I'm just looking at timeline since the 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:23.399 Spence fight, that's July of twenty three, Bud has fought 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:28.879