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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the man charged in the

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Speaker 1: brutal burning death of a gorgeous young girl, Jessica Chambers.

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Speaker 1: She died from having her whole body set on fire.

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Speaker 2: A murder charge against.

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Speaker 1: This man in the murder of another young co ed

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: A judge dismisses the murder charge against Quentin Tellus, also

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Speaker 1: charged in the burning death of Jessica Chambers. The murder

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Speaker 1: charge dropped regards a twenty fifteen brutal stabbing of a

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Speaker 1: lovely young graduate student. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. In the last weeks.

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Speaker 1: It was decided by a judge that Quentin Tellus will

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Speaker 1: not face trial for the murder of a ULM grad student.

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Speaker 1: A Fourth Judicial District Court Judge, Larry Jefferson dismissed the

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Speaker 1: endicament against tell Us.

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Speaker 2: Instead, tell Us.

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Speaker 1: Pleads guilty to three counts of unauthorized card use and

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Speaker 1: possession of marijuana. He was sent to tenures for stealing

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Speaker 1: the female student's debit card on the same night as

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Speaker 1: her murderer, ming Chen So, a ULM graduate, was murdered

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Speaker 1: in Monroe Louisiana on a July night. G he stole

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Speaker 1: her credit card and debit cards and use them around

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Speaker 1: the time she was killed the same night, but.

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Speaker 2: A judge dismisses the murder charge.

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Speaker 1: We know that, and tell Us was also accused in

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Speaker 1: the murder of Jessica Chambers in Mississippi the year before.

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Speaker 2: Chambers was burned alive.

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Speaker 1: Tell Us put the trial twice, but the trials both

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Speaker 1: ended in a hung jury.

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Speaker 2: So with one.

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Speaker 1: Murder charge out the window, what about the murder of

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Speaker 1: Jessica Chambers?

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Speaker 2: Will he ever see justice in that case?

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Speaker 1: We know that Quentin tell Us charge in Jessica Chambers

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Speaker 1: murder has been extradited from Louisiana. What happened in the

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Speaker 1: Jessica Chambers.

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Speaker 3: Case, Well, no, they call me. You know, I thought maybe,

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Speaker 3: And I asked Barry, was she okay? And you know,

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Speaker 3: he told me, you know, how bad she was burnt.

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Speaker 3: And they was flying her to Memphis. And matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: when we were standing out the yard, the helicopter come

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Speaker 3: steady praying the Lord it should be okay, you know what,

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Speaker 3: finally I asked, and I said, just where is the

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Speaker 1: In the face of overwhelming evidence of guilt against a man,

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Speaker 1: death of a beautiful young Mississippi cheerleader, a second mistrial

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Speaker 1: We want justice. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You are hearing me

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Speaker 1: This is Jessica's mother joining us. Lisa Chambers, Miss Chambers,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Yes, miss Chambers, you

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Speaker 1: When you learned this jury had mistried, what was your reaction?

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable? How can you look and evidence and it's like

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Speaker 1: Know, Miss Chambers. I recall all the cases I prosecuted,

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Speaker 1: many many more than I can even remember, and in

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you and your family firmly believe

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Speaker 1: Even in addition to all the evidence, Ms Chambers, Where

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Speaker 5: We were in the room at the courthouse, in the

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 5: They just came and told us that the jury was home,

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Speaker 5: and we did because this time, this go around was crazy.

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Speaker 5: This go around it was kind of crazy at the courthouse.

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Speaker 5: You have people following you. I had stuff like, you know,

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Speaker 1: You mean people were following you around the courthouse for.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my stars, these chambers. I did not know that.

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Speaker 1: I am so sorry those people did that. I remember

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Speaker 1: Do you think this jury has any idea that Quentin

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Speaker 5: Probably I'm not sure, but I didn't know one of

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Speaker 1: How do you know that? So we were told, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just stunned right now. To Terrest's April investigative reporter

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Speaker 1: people were haters were following Ms Chambers around the courthouse

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Speaker 6: You know, one of the things that that happened this

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Speaker 3: There were people standing outside the courtroom.

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Speaker 6: With signs that said as she said, you know, said frequent.

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Speaker 1: Just can't believe they would pick on the victims family.

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Speaker 2: It's appalling, Mss Chambers.

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Speaker 1: When you say you will not be intimidated, What do

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Speaker 5: I won't be intimidated. I just won't let anybody stop

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Speaker 3: I didn't get to see her right then.

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Speaker 3: Never seen somebody it hurt that bad. It lived as

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Speaker 2: You know, mister Chambers.

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Speaker 1: Did you get to speak to her before she went

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Speaker 1: You were hearing me speaking with Jessica's father, Ben Chambers

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Speaker 1: Will there finally be justice for Jessica Chambers? A beautiful

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Speaker 1: Quentin Tellus. In last weeks, he has been extradited from

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Speaker 1: charge of a young girl, but that murtyr charge was dropped.

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Speaker 1: Will he ever meet up with Lady Justice? What happened

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Speaker 1: the focus of prayers, thoughts for so long. Now it

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Speaker 1: Lisa Chambers, Miss Chambers, again, thank you for being with us,

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Speaker 1: Ms Chambers that day? What led up to the moment

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Speaker 5: Nothing? Really, she had been asleep. She left home around

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Speaker 5: no excuse me. My son went to leave the house

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Speaker 1: And went to the med Miss Chambers, did you get

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Speaker 1: What did you tell her? Do you remember?

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Speaker 5: I just told her that mom and Daddy were there,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would take her play any day.

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Speaker 1: I know you would.

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Speaker 2: I know you would miss change.

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Speaker 7: It just breaks my heart to hear you because I

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Speaker 1: With my father, it was really my soulmate in this world.

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Speaker 1: When I lost him, I just it was beside myself.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am. I always I think of Jessica as a butterfly,

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Speaker 1: I want to go to doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist

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Speaker 1: but he has studied psychiatry as well. Doctor Bober, I

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Speaker 1: But my question do you is not about that. My

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Speaker 2: It's like I just couldn't take it in.

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Speaker 1: Months had passed.

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Speaker 8: Nancy, this family has been through more pain and suffering

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Speaker 8: So again, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family,

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Speaker 1: Know, to Kenya Johnson joining me Atlanta veteran prosecutor. It's

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Speaker 9: It's very touching because the family members have to hear

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Speaker 9: Prosecutors are coming back and keeping them up to date,

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Speaker 2: What about it?

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Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, veteran prosecutor out of California, how do

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Nancy, it's very, very difficult, and our prayers are

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Speaker 10: violent methods of execution. We'll call it what it is

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Speaker 10: the reasons it may have hung twice. There are some

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Speaker 10: goes out to you, missus Chambers. You are so brave

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Speaker 11: Of our system of justice which we all fight jealously

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Speaker 11: are about the juri'sh rights, and I respect your decisions.

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Speaker 5: Your inability to.

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Speaker 11: Reach a verdict does not mean that you've not done

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Speaker 11: an admirable job, because you have and this court appreciates it.

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Speaker 11: So with that, I'm going to send you. I'm going

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Speaker 1: That was Panola County Circuit Court Judge Gerald Chatham, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he was just being polite. But I don't

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Speaker 1: With overwhelming evidence against Quentin Tellus, who had been pestering

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Speaker 2: Car and Jessica were set on fire.

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Speaker 1: Then video surveillance I guess from a neighbor's security camera,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Tellis's, who needs to go to her house because

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Speaker 1: Tellis changing his story time after time, caught in lies

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Speaker 1: do you need to prove this case?

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: Is bad guy Quentin tell Us finally having a date

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Speaker 1: with Lady Justice.

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Speaker 2: He has just been extradited back to Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: What happened to Jessica with me? Is Lisa Chambers. This

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Speaker 2: Who is not giving up.

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Speaker 1: Miss Chambers. When you went to the hospital and you

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Speaker 1: and that she could go, what was going through your mind?

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Speaker 1: Do you even remember?

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Speaker 5: Just that it wasn't real, but it was. How could

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Speaker 3: What she lived?

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Speaker 5: In pain? I didn't know what to do? So how

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Speaker 5: I fixed it? That I couldn't? You just want to

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Speaker 1: Could go, Miss Chambers. When you went in to the

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Speaker 1: Do you think she knew that you were there?

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Speaker 5: I don't think she could see me, but yes, I

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Speaker 1: Why did you say that?

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Speaker 5: I think she held on till we got your family.

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Speaker 5: Was annoying because I was there when she passed, and

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Speaker 5: I hadn't been there just very shortly, just long enough

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Speaker 1: Send them aside her ms chambers during this trial? What

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Speaker 5: I believe they harped a lot from the erics when

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's what she said at all. I

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Speaker 1: You Take a listen to Sheriff's detective Barry.

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Speaker 12: Thompson, and I'm not going to gloss over the fact

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Speaker 11: For first responders?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 12: And from those statements, was there a name that resonated.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and what was that?

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Speaker 1: From the statements, a lot of the firemen had heard

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Speaker 12: Initially the thought, yes, as an investigator, did you close

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Speaker 1: But yes, at first they thought she was saying Eric,

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Speaker 1: But on the witness stand they clarified she was saying eh.

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Speaker 13: It would because you have to have the breath pressure first,

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Speaker 13: The larentinal area is what we call our voice box.

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Speaker 3: And if those are damaged by inhalation of smoke or fire,

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Speaker 13: The vocal folds are very thin and they're very pliable,

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Speaker 2: The way they should.

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Speaker 13: I use my hands like this, but I tell students

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Speaker 13: But if there's anything impinging, like a growth or something

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Speaker 5: They're supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Translation, there was no way Jessica Chambers was able to speak.

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Speaker 1: inside of her mouth and her throat and her air

442
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: passages leading down to her lungs looked as if someone

443
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: had squirted lighter fluid down her mouth and set her

444
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: on fire. They were actually charred from smoke inhalation and

445
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: breathing in around a fire. There's no way she could

446
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: have said anything. Many people believe when she said she

447
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: was trying to tell us. We don't know what she

448
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: was trying to say. There is a mountain of evidence

449
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: indicating proving Quentin Tellis was guilty. Mss Chambers, Jessica's mother.

450
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: What do you think was the strongest evidence showing he

451
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: did this thing to Jessica, the cell.

452
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: Phone, Beata and all the video. I mean, he was

453
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: with her on the phones, they're together. It's just no

454
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: possibility way that it was in you one else but to.

455
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: Vincent Hill, cop turned private investigator, Vincent, I mean, it's unbelievable.

456
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: It's fantastical to believe that he's pestering her all all

457
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: day long, their cell phones are together, and then one

458
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: hour after they're together, she's dead. And what somebody else

459
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: snuck up in there in that forty five minute window

460
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: and killed her.

461
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy talk, It's crazy.

462
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 14: Miss Chambers is right. The cell phone dated, Nancy suggests

463
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 14: without a doubt that.

464
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 5: This was Quintin.

465
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 14: And one of the things I found interesting at seven

466
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 14: forty six, tell Us calls his sister and says hey,

467
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 14: or he calls his girlfriend and says, I'm walking to

468
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 14: my sister's house. In that route where Jessica was found,

469
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 14: there's a cut through that would lead to exactly where

470
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 14: his sister lives. So, I mean, the evidence was right there. Nancy,

471
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 14: I still can't believe this jury could not come up

472
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 14: with a guilty verdict in this case.

473
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Ms Chambers, during the trial, did you make eye contact

474
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: with the jury.

475
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: How were they behaving?

476
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 5: They were paying attention. I mean, it seemed like they

477
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: were paying attention, taking notes. This jury was much more

478
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: a chance than the last. The first jury, he would

479
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: have thought that, Yeah, that would come back definitely. Gil.

480
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: What went through your mind when they told you the

481
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: jury hung.

482
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know if I can even say that.

483
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: I mean, what would they hang on? I don't you know.

484
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: I was just total shock. I mean, if it was

485
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 5: like a perfect picture, I don't have it.

486
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 6: I can't.

487
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: I'm feeling shocked that they do that.

488
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 10: I'm just.

489
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

490
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Why was he even on the streets. He should have

491
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: never been uti the jailor you know, the crabs. He

492
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: was committed in the things he'd done, Why he was

493
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: in for that, He should have never been out he was.

494
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: He only got out of prison in October, and he

495
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: killed my daughter, and he should have never been on

496
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: the street.

497
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: That's my problem.

498
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: You are hearing Jessica's father, Ben Chambers, just incredulous in

499
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: shock that Quentin tell us the man I believe murdered

500
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: his daughter Jessica was even walking the streets to start

501
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: with with me right now, reacting to the jury's mistrial

502
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: is Jessica's mother, and she is not giving up to terress.

503
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: April Clarion Ledger reporter, What exactly is the nature of

504
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: the evidence against this guy, Quinton tell us In the

505
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: case of Mandy So's murder, well.

506
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 6: Probably the biggest piece of evidence he had used her

507
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 6: credit cards and has been convicted of basically a credit

508
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 6: card fraud. They found a receipt for seven cents where

509
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: he went to check and see if it worked. I

510
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: think in addition, they have inline video, But I think

511
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 6: the biggest thing is that they have a witness that

512
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 6: I believe will testify. They were swapping stories of you know,

513
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 6: one time I don't know, robbed a gas station or

514
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 6: something things like that, and then Quinton one time allegedly

515
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 6: told him that he had tortured a woman to death

516
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: for her pen number and then taken her credit cards

517
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 6: to use them. And when you look at the evidence

518
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 6: in Mandy's case, she was stabbed over thirty times with

519
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 6: superficial stabs and then once with a fatal stab, and

520
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 6: authorities believed very much that that's what Quinton was talking about.

521
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: These two murders are separated by only about two hundred

522
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: and twenty five miles in eight months. The common link

523
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: is Quinton tell Us. Mandy So, a graduate student in Louisiana,

524
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: apparently had some relationship friend wise not romantic with Quentin Tellus.

525
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: She was there at University of Louisiana at Monroe and

526
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: cops say whoever killed her stabbed her about thirty seven

527
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: times inside her apartment. Neighbors identify Quentin tell Us around

528
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: her apartment that day. Not only that, but video footage

529
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: shows them together at a Walmart the day before. They

530
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: say that tell Us picked up So's prescription for a painkiller,

531
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: a common painkiller called it lor Tab.

532
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: And we also learn.

533
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: The neighbors say they saw tell Us coming in and

534
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: out of her apartment in the days leading up to

535
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: her death, that the neighbors felt quote creeped out by

536
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: tell Us. Then we find out he calls his family

537
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: and gets them to try to use Mandy's ATM card

538
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: at a Chase Bank, Okay tried to check the balance

539
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: in her account. Then two calls go to Chase Bank

540
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: from tell Us his phone with her pen. Kay entered

541
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: into the phone to find out the balance. The next day,

542
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: he asked his mother in law's neighbor to take a

543
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: quote blue Chase debit card with a Chinese name on it.

544
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: So hso to an ATM and get two thousand dollars.

545
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: Wow. I wonder who killed her?

546
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: So we see the common thread emerging, Miss Chambers, of

547
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: a young girl, a young woman who doesn't go along

548
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: with his plan. In Mandy So's case, it was give

549
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: me your money, give me all your money, let me

550
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: drain your ATM. Do it or I'll kill you. Or

551
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: with Jessica, he pestered her for sex all day long.

552
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: She said no, no, no, no, oh, so he killed

553
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: her same m o, Miss Chambers, exactly when you realize

554
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: that he is killed not one, but two young girls,

555
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: how does that affect you, Miss Chambers.

556
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 5: Mandy would be alive, Jessica would be alive had he

557
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: not ever gotten out early in the first place. If

558
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 5: they happened to call him with Mandy. I wonder if

559
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: they ever called him at all, how many more would

560
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 5: there be If somebody some Jerry doesn't pay attention. I

561
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 5: have to say there will be more. I think he

562
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: has no conscious, he doesn't care, and it's just I

563
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: can't believe that he's allowed to do this stuff. I

564
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 5: just don't understand.

565
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: I can't either.

566
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: I cannot either, Miss Chambers, how has this what he

567
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: did to Jessica? And I pray to God that the

568
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: Lord numbed her so she did not feel the pain

569
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: of what he did to her. Could you tell our

570
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: listeners how this horrific crime on your baby girl has

571
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: affected your life.

572
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 5: I can't do anything. I don't leave my house much anymore.

573
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I live right here. We're all of them

574
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 5: like two mid of each other. You don't want to

575
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 5: leave home, you don't. It's hard to explain, is well

576
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 5: I leave. I know she's longer here, but as long

577
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 5: as i'm home office, she's here, So I try to

578
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: stay home. You don't want to go out in public

579
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: just because people have to say something and you don't

580
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: know how to answer, Like how are you today? Well,

581
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 5: how do you think I am? I'm lost, part of

582
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: my heart's gone. It's just it's just it's like part

583
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: of me dead. I can't really explain to you. You

584
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: just nola want to function. I can't start to be honest.

585
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I can't, Miss Chambers, what is your most vivid memory

586
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: of Jessica?

587
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: Just all sitting here all the time, get some on

588
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: the phone, the cheering on how being a flyer, just

589
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: everything about it. I can remember everything, down to the

590
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: face as she made of a child, to the pictures

591
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: she would take sticking her tongue out. I can remember

592
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 5: everything about her. It's it's not a memory that I

593
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 5: don't have. I remember at all.

594
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: Miss Chambers. Right now, what is your message to Quentin

595
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: tell Us?

596
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 5: He will, he won't be away with it. I don't care.

597
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: What's the jury to us? He won't get away with it.

598
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: God has the final say. You can't. You can hide

599
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 5: and you can lie to all people you want to.

600
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: She can't lie to him. He already knows.

601
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: Quentin Tellas has somehow managed a snag a hung jury,

602
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: not once, but twice in the burning death of a

603
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: teen girl, Jessica Chambers.

604
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: Will he ever be sentenced for her murder?

605
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: We wait as justice and false, and we pray for

606
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: justice for Jessica.

607
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,