1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: When you see a man, you're supposed to see a 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: man get irritated and flustered when you're in the relationship. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to see that on the first date. Okay, 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: so he was true and I got the inck Cause. 5 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: What up y'all at your boy Kevin stage. Welcome to 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Not My Best Moment, the podcast where I talk to artists, athletes, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: entertainers and friends about their successful failures. 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Based on my New York Times best selling books Successful Failure. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Available wherever books are sold except target black people. We 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: can't go there. It's unsure, but let's just stay not 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: going till they come back to the table. Today we 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: have one of my favorite content creators in the world, 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: Mecca Evans, creator, podcast hosts, actress, comedian, digital personality, one 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: half of unh Hinged and a Moral with Jamila Bell. 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: You've seen her in Safe Space. She's known for her 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: bold personality, quick humor, red hair. 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: As of late, she is the CEO and. 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Co owner of Mecca Femi Esthetics, an advocate for female empowerment, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: mental health, and community building. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: Mecca Evans. 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: Woo. Okay, that was such an intro okav. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, Mecca. You're the real deal. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: I must say this publicly. You are one of my 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: favorite creators. My wife has been telling me that I 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: have not been giving her her just due because she's 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: the one that put me on to you, and she's 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: talking about yeah I talk. So shout out to Melissa Mecha, 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. I want to jump in right. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I think you are. You are very upfront and honest 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: about your journey, and you're a Christian walk. But I 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: don't think people understand. You're a church girl for absolutely serious, 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: not for content, not for jokes. You love him for real, 33 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: you go to church regularly for real, and and your 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: your good Christian part of your life is one of 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: your not not your best moments with your first boyfriend. 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: Tell the people what was going on? 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Soon wrote Church Girl about me. 38 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: I really just that is my song. 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: Actually, un ironically, I'm wearing a Hampton shirt right now. 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: I left home. I went to that HBCU and I. 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: Lost my mind. I lost my mind. 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: I did all the things I was oh so bad 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: for an action DOWNV and so and then my very 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: first boyfriend was an atheist. I was just you know, I 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: was wilin for I was wiling a little bit. I 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, but I was. 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: I was. Really. 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: The one thing I always give my mom her props 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: is by her being a teacher. She always like encouraged 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: us to learn and encourage to learn about like other 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: religions and like my name is Mecca because my dad 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: was Muslim, and like there was an element where I 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: could always ask questions. It wasn't like you have to 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: blindly like, oh, we said that, and that's it. So 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, when people maybe don't necessarily 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: put me in a Christian box, they're seeing that, yeah, 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask some questions. And so the reason that 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: was such a formative moment for me because it was 59 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: the first time I tried to do things right and 60 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: it didn't. 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: It didn't go right. It didn't go right. 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: Mind. 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, you know that I was gonna say something 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: so crazy Kevi and I have to use Oh, I 65 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: have to remember this, this is this is not my platform, 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: this kep on stage platform. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: It's family friendly. 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: Hold on. 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: You know that man. 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Had me read the weight and relationship goes, which is 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: why I know relationship goes is a poorly written book 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: because I was in a Bible study weekly group about it. 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: The grandma mistakes in the book are ridiculous. I'm serious, Like, 74 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe that's why I don't feel with with Mike like that, 75 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: because he's a part of my trauma. 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: This is not your atheist boyfriend. This is another boyfriend. 77 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: So this is the boy that I moved to Baltimore for. Like, 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: so after I left Hampton, I had applied to Towson. 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: I got into Towson, but I really went to Baltimore 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: for him. And he was, like, you know, a good 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Christian boy. My mom really liked him. He came and 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: he visited my church. We sat down like the quintessential 83 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I was like twenty two. We sat down with the 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: pass of like, yeah, so we're gonna be married after 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: we finished the school thing. We gonna you know, wow. 86 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: I feel like people don't realize how like I was 87 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: really trying. 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: I was really trying to twenty two. 89 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: I was trying to be like you and Melissa. I tried. 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: I did, I really tried. It just did not go 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: correct for me. 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you should have read my New York Times best 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: selling book Marriage to Be Hard, also available where every. 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 3: Books are sold. 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: But keV, You're not like a psychological terrorist. So it 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: was never you know, gonna work. 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: Not a psychological terrorst there was. 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: There was psychological warfare happening in that relationship. 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so you guys break up and your world comes 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: crashing down. 101 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially, And we broke up. I happened to be visiting. 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: We broke up during the pandemic, and I was one 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: of the people not following the rules. I'm so sorry, y'all, but. 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: I have flown Mecca, What were you doing? I told you, 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: I'm wild. I don't like rules. 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: That's why it affected me so bad when I tried 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: to follow them and it didn't work like. 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: I had. 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I had was surprising my brother Darrington for his birthday, 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and so I had just happened to be at home, 111 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, we broke up, and he told me he 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: was cheating and philandering because God had put it on 113 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: his heart to let me know all that. 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: God didn't put it on his heart not to cheat, 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: just he just put it, you know. 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: Just to tell me. 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I had to go get tested because rawness was happening. 118 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: It was a mess, kiv it really. 119 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: Because you was out here, was I tried. 120 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I really tried, keV it was it was a mess no, 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and I was down back and I was so hurt 122 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: over it, you know. And I was thinking about this 123 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: when I was writing the prompts and the questions. I 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: was like, dang, why did was I so hurt? And 125 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I really think I was so hurt because like that 126 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: was the first time that I had like asked God 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: for something that was really real. I was sided of like, 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: oh God, I don't want to get a on this test. 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: Like I will say, I was blessed. I don't have 130 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: church hurd and I had a really good childhood and 131 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I just didn't have a lot of trauma. So this 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: was like my first big event where I was like, 133 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, God, my feeling are hurt. Like I'm 134 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: not even mad at you. You hurt my feelings real bad. 135 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: It's not even mad. I'm just sitting here like a 136 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: sad puppy, like. 137 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Dang, Grandma not just hurt. 138 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: She just her over here about everything. 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Blew. 140 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So you go back home, your mom buys you 141 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: a bottle of patron and tells you that you have 142 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: a week church. 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Lady mother. She surprises me. You know, it's like she 144 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: sometimes she really shocks me, truly like a servant, like 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: was a school teacher, changed careers and became a social worker, 146 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: very involved to this day, like truly a servant of 147 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: the kingdom, like all the things. And so I think 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: by her witnessing, I mean I had him on a 149 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: speaker like this, like so she everything, and so I 150 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: think she saw how devastated I was, and I just 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I was in my room while cooped up, and she 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: came in there and she was like with the biggest 153 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: bottle of patron I ever seen in my life. I 154 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: didn't I don't even know they made bother patron that big. 155 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I said, where did you even find that? But she 156 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: was like, you have a week. You have a week 157 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: to get everything out, to sulk, to feel. And after 158 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: a week is up, girl, We're not doing this no more. 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: And on the seventh day, like god. 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Cad, yeah, you know what I'm saying, she came in 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: the room and she said, Okay, get dressed. 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: Your friend. 163 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I've called your friend. She has set up a whole 164 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: little day. I still have the pictures from that day 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: and I had so much fun that day. But it 166 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: was a really valuable lesson for me in terms of 167 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: like learning to feel and more in things like even 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: now more so happens like on a career level, but 169 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: if it's something that I really want, I do allow 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: myself to be sad because I feel like, you know, 171 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: being sad is what's going to make you be able 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: to elevate after. 173 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: So during this time at home is when you start 174 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: making tiktoks. 175 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: That's why like when I say like this was such 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: a really big transformative moment for me, because as I 177 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: was in that room taking shots to patron to the head, 178 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I quite literally was sitting on the toilet downloading TikTok, 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: like really, yeah, you know what's crazy. I had this thought, 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: like fleetingly, like what good is gonna come with this? 181 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: And I wasn't even talking about downloading TikTok. I was 182 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: more so like dang, I moved out there for him. 183 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: And after this, I still got to go back and 184 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: finish school and I don't really have no friends, like 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: I was all in was we was in church, and 186 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: I said, I went to his church, I did all 187 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: his stuff. I'm about to go back out there and 188 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: really not have nothing for myself. And so I think 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: about the fact that I was thinking, like, what good 190 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: is gonna come from this while literally downloading the good. 191 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: That kind of came from it. 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, that's why I do be having to give 193 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: God his props. He'd be doing a little wit, you know, clockey. 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: So I must give you your props here. 195 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: I learned a lot from you when it comes to TikTok. I. 196 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: You know, I started YouTube and everything was polished and stuff, 197 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: and I, you know, after Melissa put me onto you, 198 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: I started watching you and I was like, Mecca, you 199 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: never care if it flops your aud you don't have 200 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: You don't this. I wouldn't even recommend people do things 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: like this. This is not how you're supposed to use TikTok. 202 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: You just are a special person. You have no caption, 203 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: no no, no nothing, No caption in the bottom, no 204 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: text on top. You start with the your It's like 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: you're holding your phone up here. You only see a 206 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: little piece of your face. You start in the middle 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: of the sentence, in the middle of the thought, and 208 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: people be knowing exactly what you're talking about. You post 209 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: a lot and you don't seem to care how they do. 210 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: You just post. And I think I made a video 211 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: about this before, Like yo, Meca just be letting the 212 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: choppers sing? 213 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: How did you is that? 214 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: What? 215 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: Afety doesn't allow me to care about the numbers? I can't. 216 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: I have to get this off right now, and you 217 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: know I've been trying. Like the thing is, I have 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: been trying, I think now with like how everything's going, 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I actually have tried to like do that, and I'm like, well, 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: this doesn't work for me now like now, I doesn't 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: set my algorithm up so it knows I'm gonna be crazy. 222 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: So when I try and do something correctly, again, try 223 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: and do stuff right, and it don't. 224 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Go right, Like nah, you really are proof that, which 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: is advice I gave people. You really got to do 226 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: you the rules are there, but you got to make 227 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: it work personally. And I think you've done that. And 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: it's funny because I told you and I told you 229 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: me separately and on occasion together, because y'all y'all have 230 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: gotten dragged individually and together on a myriad of occasions. 231 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: And I tell people, in some strange way that is 232 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: a sign that you're making it. Oh yeah, because you 233 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: I told you mean of this, and I'm gonna tell 234 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: you if they say Mecca on TikTok for the most part, 235 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: they talking about you, Mecca, Like. 236 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: Mecca, y'all not even talking about what it's really what 237 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: it's really foul. 238 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: Will we talk about me? Fo you feel me? Shout 239 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 4: out to my. 240 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: Y'all ain't got no style, I said, I have. 241 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: A personal style. Mind you know what the crazy part is, keV. 242 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you see my brother who got 243 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: on there and was explained to my mom, My brother 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: and my cousin were in a video together. 245 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: Mind you. 246 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: We've been saying she can't dress this whole time, but 247 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: y'all being crazy, like y'all doing too much, like like 248 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: it's like hold on. 249 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: Time, wait a minute. 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: But I think it's because like I've always just like 251 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't mind experimenting. I like a little all black vibe. 252 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of what they're talking about in 253 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: terms of all where like egro boots, I like, how 254 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, I like the stuff that I like. And 255 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: so it's even I think coming from you know, my 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: dad and my brothers and stuff and my cousins, Oh 257 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: fresh Jordan's freshest and that really just was never my tea. 258 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: And so it was in a certain you know, brand 259 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: of Black Family. It was already That's why it didn't 260 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: bother because it's like what it been saying, girl, Please. 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: I want to take a quick break from the show 262 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: and then hear from responsible. So I'm curious, what did 263 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: you go to school for? Like, what what did you 264 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: think your life was if it if it went down 265 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: the path that you marrying that boy, what would what 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: would your life look like? 267 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: Do you think? 268 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: I actually so, I was started out a journalism major. 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Then I switched over to p R after the first 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: year because I originally wanted to be an anchor and 271 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: and I realized I actually wasn't good at reading prompter, 272 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: which since I've gotten actually really good at reading prompter 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: because they've had to do it on like several occasions 274 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: at this point, But at that time, I just couldn't 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: get a hold of it. And so I remember looking 276 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: at the entry level jobs for like PR JAW and 277 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: it was just like thirty thousand dollars a year, And 278 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, oh, well, I'm a I think guess. 279 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: I go go back to school. 280 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: Like it ain't nothing, girl, what the hell have to 281 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: still trying to get that money back in blood down? 282 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: Girl? What the what. 283 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: So that, And that's kind of where the point at 284 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: which I was in Baltimore. At that point, I actually 285 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: had planned to be a teacher. My really, yes, I 286 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: was gonna do like my mom and my minor was 287 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: theater and then early childhood education and I had I 288 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: used to do summer camp. Well, I used to be 289 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: a summer camp counselor through one of the black programs 290 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: in Sacramento every single summer that I was like in 291 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: college and I like kids, you know, I'm pretty good 292 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: with kids. 293 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: I used to do that. 294 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: I used to work in daycare and I used to 295 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: be thinking I was going to go to early childhood 296 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: But once I realized the higher up you go, that's 297 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: the only way to make money is to go really 298 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: high in school and hire you go, the less interaction you. 299 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: Actually have with the kids. 300 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: It's just like administrative duties and people paying arguing with parents. 301 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: And I was like, that's that's the sucky part. 302 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with parents about not being 303 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: able to pay their daycare bills. 304 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: Wow, Mecca as a teacher is such an interesting. 305 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: Would that have been an interesting character art visual? 306 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have. 307 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: Been on TikTok yelling your kids can't read. Read with 308 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: your children, like please? 309 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: So I want to talk about this. You you audition recently, 310 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: You booked your first role? 311 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 312 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: Was it your first role? 313 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: No? 314 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: You were my first role, but oh it's my first 315 00:15:59,360 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: It was my. 316 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: First roll that I auditioned for. 317 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what's going through your mind right now? Like you, 318 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: you're living a life that didn't exist when you started 319 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: this to talk as a job and stuff didn't exist. 320 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: Do you ever like sit and think of like what's 321 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: going on? 322 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you were in a theater major, so you 323 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: had some you had some desire there, but but your 324 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: pathway has been very different than the traditional pathway. Does 325 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: that ever cross your mind anytime? 326 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: I just always like pray that I'm doing it right. 327 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Like I pray, I'm like, you know, I'll be in 328 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: that cupboard. I be okay, So what what's the next 329 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: what's the next step? I think looking at people like 330 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: you and Esa Ray and Quinta, like specifically Etha and Quinta, 331 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I watched them on YouTube when I was in high school. 332 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: I watched y'all on All Death too. But like you, 333 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about going into the scripted shows. And I 334 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: guess like the direction that I've been going in watching 335 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: them quite literally make the steps from step, like watching Insecure. 336 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: When I was at Hampton with such an event, we 337 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: would crowd around someone's TV and watch it. Same with 338 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Abba Elementary. So I try and follow the playbook while 339 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: also making get my own, which is obviously going to 340 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: be very sporadic and chaotic naturally, but it's not necessarily 341 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: like I feel like I don't feel imposter syndrome, but 342 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: I do. I'm very concerned about like I want to 343 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: do things right. I don't want to fumble things. Yeah, 344 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to fumble an opportunity. I think 345 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: in the next five years, I want to be definitely 346 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: have a couple other couple shows under my belt. I 347 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: would love to be in movies and shout out to Mel. 348 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: She's such a you know, someone we met through you. 349 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: But then also Mel Mitch like a good big sister figure, 350 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: Like she really wants us to do stand up. And 351 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: it's not that I don't want to do stand up. 352 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm just more like I want to do comedic acting, 353 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: like I want to be like a more like a 354 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Catherine o Hair, like the improv, the movies like that's 355 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: more my tea and I realized that, so I'm trying 356 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: to do the things to get me. 357 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm one of the people who actually doesn't believe everybody 358 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: needs to do stand up. 359 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: I think, and I don't mean that in a like 360 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: a negative way. 361 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: I think it's just so many different ways of expressing 362 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: your talent. Like you can be a comedy actor, you 363 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: can be a successful podcaster. Stand up is a skill 364 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: that you have to spend time and learn how to do. 365 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: And I think people think, well, if you're funny, that's 366 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: the way you can do it, but like you also 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: can do it through TikTok and through comedy acting and 368 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: through podcasting, because there's no there's no quick way in 369 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: stand up. And I think sometimes people not to say 370 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: you're doing this, but sometimes people get in the stand 371 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: up just to make money and they end up there 372 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: getting hurt because they not good at it, because it 373 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: takes time to get good at it. And then also 374 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: because you're you know, already a popular figure, you don't 375 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: get the luxury of not being good early. 376 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah you can't, y'all already be talking about me. 377 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: I can't that that would hurt me if y'all said it, Actually, 378 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: she's not funny. 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: Oh. 380 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: That was my one thing I was leaning on. That 381 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: was the one thing. 382 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: I could say, like please, no, no, I don't we 383 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: can't chance it. 384 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: I know what I'm good at, I know my strengths. 385 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if you do it, I'm more than willing 386 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: to help you, you know, and all that type of stuff. 387 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: But you don't have to do I think there's because 388 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: of the Internet. Like lexp she lexp Andrea. They their 389 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: podcast is the show. Yeah, you don't have to learn 390 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: a different a different skill, like your podcast is a show. 391 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about fame with 392 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: you because you are famous. 393 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: You're famous that on stage this is this is my 394 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: famous friend, y'all for real, y'all should see when keV 395 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: walk around, how how folks act. I was at the 396 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Black Effect, like, ooh, okay, let me hold on and 397 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: let all the people talk to keV. 398 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: Mecca, you have almost seven hundred thousand followers on TikTok. 399 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: That's that's fame. If you get dragged, it's fame. My 400 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: question I asked all my social media people this, what 401 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: was the what was the trial by fire of going 402 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: from relative obscurity and be able to post anything, and 403 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: it never trends to now your way you dress, the way, 404 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: the take you have, or just for you. People just 405 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: be like I don't know about Mecca, not even a 406 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: specific thing. 407 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: It's just like that light. 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: Skin hussy Jezbell, just like, oh my god. 409 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Like what has there been a struggle in any way 410 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: adapting to this part of your life? I? 411 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: Yes, and no. You know, keV I grew up. 412 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I was two hundred and fifty pounds with a mustache 413 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: out of black middle school. So I can play the 414 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: dozens very very well. That's why I've And so what's 415 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: has happened was I don't be going back and forth 416 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: with people the way I used to. 417 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: My followers have been around four minute. 418 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: No. I used to go on them profile pictures and 419 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: be frying folks at like you don't want to do this? 420 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: Really? 421 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: Yes, No, I used to. I used to get I've 422 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: actually gotten so more mature. 423 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Mature, like I like I used to go back and forth. 424 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: I was like, we can do that, but then you know, 425 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: it's so many people coming at you that it's like 426 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't have time to roast everyone. I can, but 427 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna take all day. And so, you know, learning 428 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: the just ignoring block. That's been hard for me. It has, 429 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: but I think it's been the it's been the best 430 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: thing for me. And then also the element of like, 431 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: don't give things attention, Like, yeah, y'all actually don't know 432 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: me personally. And I had to come to the realization 433 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: that I'm like an avatar at this point, like Mecha 434 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: Velly is not Mecca, and and I had to kind 435 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: of split them in my brain because I do see 436 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: how you know, when you're on the chopping block constantly, 437 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: the way that I've been on the chopping block, if 438 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: you're really tying your self worth to that, it can 439 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: be it can really mess you up mentally. There was 440 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: someone on TikTok who said she's just a yapper, and 441 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I got on and said, first of all, I'm a 442 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: child of God, so we can let's start there, and 443 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: so are you, you know, because I'm not gonna take 444 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: that away from no one. I know who I am 445 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: and who I am, and I'm looking fast at this 446 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: so I could never just be a yapper. I'm a daughter, 447 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm a sister, you know, I'm a lover, I'm. 448 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: A friend, you see what I'm saying. 449 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, you know you can't put me in just 450 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: one box. You could try knock, gonna walk. 451 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break, We'll be right back. 452 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious in some ways, macabelly is an extension of 453 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: your actual personality. How did you develop? Like how did 454 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: you know? Like were you a funny kid? Like you know, 455 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: like how did you pull this part out of you? 456 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: Because you said, you know, you got twelve thousand followers 457 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: and TikTok in your first week. Yeah, to me, that 458 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: means you were you just being yourself. I mean, I 459 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: know that's kind of cussing. 460 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: Hebrew Israelites out I was going back and that's very specific. 461 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: I had an arch nemesis for a point in time. 462 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: I had to stop acknowledging her because she kept getting 463 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: followers off me, like I was going. 464 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: Back in from the Hebrew Israelite arch nemesis. 465 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, it's so much no that and they hated me. 466 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: That's why ben. 467 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: I actually met someone from one of the Houston newspapers 468 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: out here who I was like, oh my god, you've 469 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: been following me that long? He said, And you know what, 470 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: I just want to say you ain't been as mean 471 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: to the fellas lately, thank you, because I used. 472 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: To you didn't let up? 473 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: Thank you? Was he ab no? 474 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: But you know he was a bald black man. 475 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: So I used to all black men get it bad 476 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: on the internet. 477 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: They do, and I used to be number one. But 478 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to like where I get it from, Actually, 479 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: my dad was a stand up comedian, like I amateur. Yes, 480 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: my dad has so much lore. And so that's where 481 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: when you talk about where where do you and your brother? 482 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: Because you know Darrington is eon crazier than I am, Like. 483 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: How did y'all be on video together? I'd be like, wow, 484 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: he making Mecca look like a regular person. 485 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: My daddy's whole family makes us look like regular people. 486 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. 487 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: But like, like my dad, he was a black panther. 488 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: He used to do stand up in San Francisco with 489 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Robin Williams before he got picked up from Mork and Mindy, 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: and so I heard like all these stories about like 491 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: a time and then to play game like he used 492 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: to do like stand up with us, like he had 493 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: a mic, And so I'm very just aware of like 494 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: comedic timing naturally and I think when you come from 495 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: like a funny family, My family is very funny, and 496 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: like you to your point, I've always said on the internet, 497 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I am probably the least funny one in my family. 498 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: The problem is. 499 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: Them negroes don't got no sense and they would get 500 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: all of us canceled. So with the way that they speak. 501 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this is gonna sound crazy. 502 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: Y'all know my dad has dementia. I said, if my 503 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: father had his mind about him, I would have been 504 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: canceled seventeen times more over with the things he would 505 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: have got on the Internet and said. And y'all would 506 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: have been weak. But just know it would have been 507 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: wildly inappropriate, right, No, Like I used to be in 508 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: college calling him like, Daddy, delete this off Facebook. 509 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: That's funny because I'm not the funniest person in my 510 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: family either. I just I'm the only one who uses 511 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: the internet. My mom, my grandma, my sister, they they 512 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: get some my great grandma. 513 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: I feel like that's how it goes, though. 514 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: I really like the more I meet people, I really 515 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: feel like that's how it goes, because you'll meet people 516 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, actually, everyone in my family's funnier 517 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: than I am, and I just I don't know, Like 518 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's because the least funny one feels like we 519 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: have to try and we have to get our laughs 520 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: from others because the others here are much funnier than 521 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: I am. So I have to go outside to get 522 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: my laughs. But maybe that's what it is. But I'm 523 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. I have a theory there. 524 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: I have a question I've been meaning to asking. If 525 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: you don't feel comfortable asking, I'll have them. 526 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: Edit this out. 527 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, what happened with you in the Turkey leg hut? 528 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: This is like it's a thing. I've tried to search 529 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: this on TikTok. 530 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: I've actually never said it in I've never said, oh, 531 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: I'll give keV on stage the exclusive though, I'll let 532 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: you all know what my issue was, Like, I've never 533 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: I made the video. So what happened was obviously it 534 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: was a big attraction out here. They had all them rules, 535 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: under them easy ups, and I happened. You want me 536 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: to wear a church clothes to sit up under an 537 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: easy epp. I need y'all to be so for in 538 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: the dead of Supper in Houston. Day was really just 539 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: not being smart with what they were telling us to do, 540 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: and so I did. I have went a couple of times, 541 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: and when people would come into town, we would go. 542 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: I went on a date to the Turkey let cut. 543 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: This is where my beef starts the origin story of 544 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: the villainy and why I had to make them my enemies. 545 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Worst experience ever. And mind you, at this point I 546 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: had been there about three times. We had to wait, 547 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: They told him he couldn't come in with the hat, 548 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Then he had to pay someone on the side for 549 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: the hat. Then we were standing for another forty five 550 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: minutes in the heat, and then by the time we 551 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: got to the sit down if they were busy. The 552 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: liquor wasn't strong that day. It was just the girls 553 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: were being rude. 554 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 4: It was I'm not even capping. 555 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: It was one of my worst dining experiences and I 556 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: was so pissed I couldn't even call the boy back 557 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: that could have been the love of my life. The 558 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: date did not go well because we went through so 559 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: much trying to get in, and you know, and you know, 560 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: this is the thing. When you see a man you're 561 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: supposed to see a man get irritated and flustered, when 562 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: you're in the relationship. You're not supposed to see that 563 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: on the first date. Okay, So he and I got 564 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: the ick because. 565 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: Because he was. 566 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Just and you not that you have to say that 567 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: for when you you know, at least three months in, 568 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: when you're locked in, when it's like, you know, I'm 569 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: tied to you, buy some things, I like you, but 570 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: your first date, and I just I always felt that 571 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: in my spirit. I said that really wasn't his fault, 572 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: but I just that really was. And then you know how, 573 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: and then you know how boys are. He was so 574 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: flustered trying to get in that he couldn't get himself 575 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: together once we got seated. So he's man, So now 576 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting all energy that the Turkey leg hut needs 577 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: to be getting puffing. And so now I had to 578 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: sit there for an hour and get barred that and 579 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: just act like I'm just yeah, that was crazy, huh. 580 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: And So what happened was the first video I made, 581 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: and you know how, I like we said, I make 582 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of videos. This one happened to go viral. 583 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: So I got home from the date. That's why, and 584 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: that's why it's been this whole thing of where did 585 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: this start from? Because I didn't say I went on 586 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: the date, but what I said was turkey leg hut, 587 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I got your number. You are my public enemy, and 588 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: I will y'all will never get the chance again. And 589 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: so that video went up and then it began this 590 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: thing of like where did this come from? And I 591 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: just never explained it because again, this big fine man 592 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: who I was interested in is now it's nothing because 593 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't he done been so mean to me. 594 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I don't fool with them. 595 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: You got lord man, that's the thing that makes you 596 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: so interesting. People be like, y'all know how Mega feels 597 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: about I scrolled your thing forever? I said, what happened? 598 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: And find you make so many videos? Boy, when you 599 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: watch a Mega video, you try to go back to it. 600 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: It's like the shade room. This is like seven new videos, 601 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: Like I went to the laundry math, I went to 602 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: church by this, What y'all think about it? I'd be like, 603 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: I can't scroll that far now. I just wanted to 604 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: show somebody this video. 605 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: I had to. 606 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: I had to chill all my go in the church 607 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: content because you know, like they I was kid before kid, 608 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: they used to be cussing me, y'all like you're not 609 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: a real Christian. 610 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 611 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: So that's why when you were getting there, I was 612 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: a little weak. I said, welcome to the club, cav welcome. Please. 613 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: When you say you don't hate and you lead with 614 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: a christ like spirit, they don't like it for whatever reason. 615 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 616 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: Surprise, surprise, surprise. 617 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: It's funny. 618 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: I used to get hate in real life from church 619 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: content before the Internet. They district missionaries used to get 620 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: up and walk out of my shows at church because 621 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: it was a fact. I got real life hate from 622 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: powerful people. I've been here, listen. So you now have TikTok, 623 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: you have unhinged any moral what's the next thing you 624 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: want to add to your I know, and you booked 625 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: the road I did. Would you say that you're you're 626 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: doing what you want to do or is this or 627 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 2: is there more for you that you're like? Okay, now, 628 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: if I can just do X, Y and Z, I 629 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: really feel like, you know, I'm doing what I want 630 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: to do. 631 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I started a podcast with my brother. It's 632 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: called Breakover. We drop every Wednesday, and I just felt 633 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: like that was fun because I was like, well, this 634 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: will get the boys something I always you know, like 635 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: y'all are cool, but y'all are girls, And I'm like, well, 636 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: here's an N word. 637 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: And so I was actually in a meeting with I 638 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: can't think of her name. 639 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: She worked at All Death and like, you know, we 640 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: were just trying to get a plan together with my 641 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: YouTube and. 642 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: She's like, oh, I saw you on Cat's page. 643 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: I know all them from back in the day, blah 644 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: blah blah. And she's like, so one of your goals. 645 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm just trying to do the cab 646 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: on stage. I told keV I was gonna steal his model, 647 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: like I just I've been creating different shows under my channel. 648 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: She gonna say, oh, that's the that's the All Death model. 649 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: It's I said, well, hopefully in ten years someone else 650 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: is telling you it's Mecca's model, because it's a good. 651 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: Model to have. 652 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: Listen, I have. 653 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: All I've done is watch other people and be like perfect, perfect, 654 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. 655 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: I will never steal your thing word for word. 656 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: But it's like you watch a personal trainer train somebody 657 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: at the gym and you'd be like, you can't stop 658 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: me from doing those exercises. 659 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I was like, I'm literally doing I 660 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: have a boys show. I have another girl show with 661 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: me and my best my other best friend from Hampton Coucy. 662 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: She's a doctor, she's a fashion girl. 663 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: So that's how I This is my best friend who's 664 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: very aesthetically pleasing and into fashion, and we're gonna talk 665 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: about things. 666 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: I just have. 667 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: I have a lot of three podcasts. 668 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: So three podcasts and then I want to act, which 669 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do and you're doing it. 670 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm doing it. 671 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: And honestly, when I when I go out to LA 672 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: to film, I'm gonna do a little bit. I think 673 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there like a month. You know, 674 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: I got people out Oh I'm. 675 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: Trying to work. 676 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: See see how I put it out there? Now, you 677 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: gotta put it out there now with the LA people. 678 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: You got to that's big spend. That's big money, Mecca. 679 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: Los Angeles. 680 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: I'll be out there so telling auditions in the tape. 681 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: So what I gotta stand. 682 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 3: Congratulating, thank you before I let you go. 683 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: Let the people know where they can find you, the 684 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: names of your podcasts or all the things people say 685 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: at the end of podcasts. 686 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can find me at the Unhinged and Moral podcast, 687 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: the Breakover podcast, or the Darling Diaries podcast. My socials 688 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: are at Mecca Velly M E C C A V 689 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: E L L double I. I'm on all platforms talking crap, so. 690 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: She's a wonderful person to follow. My current favorite mega 691 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: video is that Drake song Smack your when you're smacking 692 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 2: your butt. 693 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: To the well. 694 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: But you know what, someone on Twitter got so mad 695 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: at me. They said, this is cornier than the song. 696 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: I said, that's why it's funny, Like I literally like 697 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: the last song that he made Nokia and I had 698 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: literally done the Proud Family Penuts dance to it, and 699 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: I was like, he is so funny, Like I could 700 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: just dance like a peanut from the Proud Family to 701 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: his songs. 702 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: Thank you Drake, it's so funny. 703 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: Man Again, y'all, if you don't know Mecca, you get 704 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 2: get familiar. She will make your day. And she will 705 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: And also, met, I do have to give you your credit. 706 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: When when you're on a topic and not being funny 707 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: and you really want to like get some thoughts off, 708 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 2: you can be you can give a dissertation and really 709 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: break some stuff down. 710 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: You were talking about. 711 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: I'm telling you the Black Church is a conservatory. The kids, 712 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: the kids who were raising there, they know how to talk, 713 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: they know how to get them. The R and B 714 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 2: stand up comedy acting. The Black Church was allowing us 715 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 2: a space to perform, to get better and feedback. 716 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 4: And feedback because take. 717 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Time time means you bombing, bom bombing, and we know 718 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: you're bombing. 719 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: Take your time though. 720 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: And we know your and we all know that's as 721 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: close to an actual bu as you gonna hear. 722 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I never got to take your time. I just 723 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 4: want to say that. 724 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: Of course, that's why you are who you are, lady 725 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: and gentlemen. Mecca lou Evan, God bless you. Got to 726 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: keep people. This has been a Unanimous Media original. Not 727 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: My Best Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts and Unanimous Media. 728 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: It was hosted by me Kevin Fredericks, Executive produced by 729 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: Stephen Curry, Eric Payton, and Charlotte Sumter Rigette Co executive 730 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 2: producer Klena Maria Cutney. The executive producers of the iHeart 731 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: Podcasts are Sean T Tone and Jason English. 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