WEBVTT - 302: Guess Who's Coming to Dinner w/ Kerry Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with Iheartradiots, Yeah Yeahs and Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a very exciting episode. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into the episode, it is man, G just had at

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<v Speaker 2>the time this recording an amazing birthday. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>want to know. What are you someone that's not into

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<v Speaker 2>birthday numbers or you are?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really care. I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it's it's so funny when I tell my

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<v Speaker 1>age and then people are like what I'm like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you not see like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a little bit like insulting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but well you do look they're probably you

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<v Speaker 2>do look amazing, though. I feel like you're someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>looked young. You're his true true looked young your whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, right, I think, so, yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a I feel like I have a babyface.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's people like, you know, there's people like

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<v Speaker 1>b Arthur who looked probably like she was sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>when she was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, don't I look so good and so young?

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<v Speaker 1>You look so I feel like you you're getting younger

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<v Speaker 1>and younger looking. Do you ever look back at the episodes, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>even watching this episode, some of them close ups on Huk,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh damn, I feel like I damn

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<v Speaker 1>what no? Like, I felt like I looked almost older

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<v Speaker 1>back then in certain shots.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Reilly, Oh my god, I thought we looked like babies,

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<v Speaker 2>like if we look young for our age. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>look at us on Scandal, I feel like we look

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<v Speaker 2>like full blown teenagers.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like we look like so young it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes do you ever think like, how did I get cast?

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<v Speaker 1>I look like a kid?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How did I get cast in this role?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>How did anyone believe that I could be someone that

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<v Speaker 2>like has a job? Yeah, or like a backstory? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode is amazing. We have in store for our

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<v Speaker 2>gladiators today, probably their most favorite guest if I would

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<v Speaker 2>have put money on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, this is this is what an important like special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>This is We're taping on a freaking Saturday. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>How many saturdays did we work on Scandal?

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<v Speaker 4>We worked?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, we worked a bunch of saturdays on Scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>So the weekends were not forty eight hours, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like thirty six at best.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and we loved it. We we did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, she's busy, she's busy. She's got a very busy life,

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<v Speaker 2>a very busy personal life.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a very full life.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're very grateful to have her because Gladiators, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've said before, it is your most favorite, number one

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<v Speaker 2>guest of guests of all time. She has been on

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<v Speaker 2>the pod once before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she's gracing us with her presence yet again.

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<v Speaker 6>Who I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you so much, Thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 2>this again. You are obviously we've been teasing you. We're like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's everyone's number one guest as everybody would only want

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<v Speaker 2>her to have her on the Gladiators.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no way to even tease.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first, Gladiators, thank you for answering the call of

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<v Speaker 2>all of our posts on the social medis for amazing

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<v Speaker 2>questions that we're going to get to you in two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>But before that, we just have to say between the

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<v Speaker 2>last time we had Carrie Washington, the one and only

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<v Speaker 2>Kerry Washington who played the Olivia Pope on Rewatch.

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<v Speaker 5>Podcast, you wrote a book that came out which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is insane, and we need to just talk about in

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<v Speaker 2>the book of how it relates to this podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned in the book that your real life sometime paralleled Olivia,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were comfortable in just saying that, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think we I mean, it's a big deal to

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<v Speaker 2>write a book and have a book come out, and

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<v Speaker 2>if there's anything that relates to Olivia on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>we would love to have you speak about you.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I caught you, guys. I love I

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<v Speaker 6>think I have a hard time remembering like what I

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<v Speaker 6>cut out of the book, but I know I wrote

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<v Speaker 6>at some point, so I hope I made it into

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<v Speaker 6>the book about telling you both. I remember so vividly

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<v Speaker 6>sitting in Opa and telling you guys that I was

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<v Speaker 6>going to go to Oprah's house for like a birthday brunch.

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<v Speaker 6>So I totally remember that that couch and I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>what am I gonna wear? You guys were like, what

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<v Speaker 6>are you gonna wear? Then Oprah's house?

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<v Speaker 5>It was so crazy, what are you gonna wear an

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<v Speaker 5>Oprah's house?

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<v Speaker 6>So it's just like those special memories of being on

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<v Speaker 6>a rocket ship together and being like can you believe

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<v Speaker 6>our lives? Like what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>When?

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<v Speaker 1>Then Oprah showed up on set, like I'm grow keen

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<v Speaker 1>to set. That was another moment. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Off the elevators at OPA and like, yeah, it's insane,

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<v Speaker 6>so cool, Yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the part in the book where you talk

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<v Speaker 5>about me.

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<v Speaker 6>That story is as well shocking that that's your favorite.

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<v Speaker 6>That story is very special to me. It's very very

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<v Speaker 6>special to me, and I need to know you so much.

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<v Speaker 6>And yes, I was talking a little about how like

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of times we would be doing these scenes

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<v Speaker 6>where we would be talking about the given circumstances of

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<v Speaker 6>our characters, but really we were talking about ourselves in

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<v Speaker 6>so many ways like that these characters kind of gave

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<v Speaker 6>us a way to work through our own shit characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really TV is really different than I

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<v Speaker 2>think movies. I mean, I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>experience with the movies, but I know you two do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when you're working eighty hours a week

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<v Speaker 2>for seventy eight years on something, you're spending so much

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<v Speaker 2>time as your character as you are in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it and the writers are writing to.

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<v Speaker 5>You, so it gets confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the book, Carrie talks about this moment where

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<v Speaker 2>I was considering starting a family and Carrie had chosen

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<v Speaker 2>ready to start a family, and we were doing these

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<v Speaker 2>lines where you were like passing the torch to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember how they were.

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<v Speaker 6>But you were really talking about you stepping into like

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<v Speaker 6>O pa being yours being like.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, qpoh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And and you know, like every time we weren't acting,

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<v Speaker 6>we were talking about like were you ready to be

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<v Speaker 6>a mom? Did you want to be a mom? Did

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<v Speaker 6>you cause you have did you have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 6>be a mom? And then we got these scenes that

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<v Speaker 6>were like you can do it. This is your office,

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<v Speaker 6>like you can take it on, like rise to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 6>You have it in you, And I was like getting

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<v Speaker 6>knocked up office.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we we used to talk. We used to mention

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<v Speaker 1>how we felt that there were cameras in trailers or

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<v Speaker 1>on seid because the writers, yeah, because we're writers, would

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<v Speaker 1>write about stuff that we were going through, we were

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<v Speaker 1>about to go through, or we were we could really

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<v Speaker 1>late to.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so trippy and we'd be like, hell, did

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<v Speaker 3>they know this?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And Carrie used to do this thing for actors listening,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm curious who taught you that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, sometimes again, when you're working eight hours week, like

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<v Speaker 2>and you're doing the scene which we're down a scandal

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<v Speaker 2>a billion times and a billion takes, sometimes at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of a scene that would be really involved to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like wake us up or get us here,

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<v Speaker 2>you would use our real like sometimes you'd be.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Katie, you like or you would say like drop

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<v Speaker 5>an f bomber like you would take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we were also had to be word perfect on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and so sometimes if the coverage would move,

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<v Speaker 2>like let's say, into my close up, you would change

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<v Speaker 2>the words because who taught you to do that?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I don't remember. I'm so you don't remember.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember who

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<v Speaker 6>taught me to Let me think, I feel like everything

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<v Speaker 6>that I do as an actor that school somehow goes

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<v Speaker 6>back to Jamie Fox. That's like, actually, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 6>where I got something. It all goes back to Jmie

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<v Speaker 6>because he's been so like pivotal for me at so

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<v Speaker 6>many different times in my career. And I talk about

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<v Speaker 6>this in the book too. There was this one scene

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<v Speaker 6>we were doing for Ray It's like this really important

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<v Speaker 6>moment where I played his wife and he was Ray

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<v Speaker 6>Charles and I find his heroin works in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 6>and I remember like the rehearsal that morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know when you rehearse the scene and it's like electric.

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<v Speaker 6>You're like, oh, there's so much danger and excitement in

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<v Speaker 6>the scene, and it was so great. And then by

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<v Speaker 6>the time we got around to my coverage like seven

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<v Speaker 6>hours later, I was like, I just wanted to recapture

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<v Speaker 6>that magic from the morning, and I kept like repeating myself,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to like, you know, scratch the same itch, looking

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<v Speaker 6>for the same thing that we had had, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>seven eight hours before. And Jamie was like, stop trying

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<v Speaker 6>to repeat magic, like you you can't. That's not what

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<v Speaker 6>we do. You have to keep digging for something new,

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<v Speaker 6>like keeping wow, for what's new. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>he was like, it has to be new every single time.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that I think, like that idea of like

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<v Speaker 6>specifically saying somebody's real name or talking about what's really

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<v Speaker 6>going on, I don't I don't know if that specifically

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<v Speaker 6>came from him, but that commitment to like keep digging

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<v Speaker 6>and make it new all the time, I know that

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<v Speaker 6>that's something he really that Also.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it also takes the pressure off of ourselves, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do that too, you try to. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>even shooting the A seven fifty two episode, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Carrie and I had our moment on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor when I finally wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>I kept I kept in my head. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>stay in that space, stay in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of just sort of letting go and then letting

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<v Speaker 1>whatever new magic like you were saying, happens in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I put so much pressure on myself and then something

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<v Speaker 1>gets lost in doing that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I think instead of have faith in those moments,

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<v Speaker 6>like we have yet that the that the magic is

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<v Speaker 6>list like we believe like there's only this finit amount

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<v Speaker 6>of talent or this finite amount of creativity available to me.

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<v Speaker 6>So I have to hold on so tight as opposed

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<v Speaker 6>to like, no I can this is so woo woo,

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<v Speaker 6>but I can plug into this infinite creative source. And

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<v Speaker 6>so like, even if it's different, it's still going to

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<v Speaker 6>be magical. And I feel like that's it is. It's

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<v Speaker 6>so important because I get really stale when I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>trying to repeat the same.

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<v Speaker 5>You used to you gave me the most.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always tried to hold onto it, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen here today, folks. But one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite directors we ever got to work with on Scandal

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<v Speaker 2>was Carrie Washington some sort of direction where you said

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<v Speaker 2>something like, oh my god, I'm gonna you said something

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<v Speaker 2>about every time you're saying the scene is someone, you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to change them, right. It was something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you're trying to like like affect change in them,

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<v Speaker 2>like like you're trying to see like that way you

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<v Speaker 2>do do it a little bit differently every time, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Because I think we it's so caught up in actors

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<v Speaker 6>it's like what do I look like? What do I

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<v Speaker 6>sound like? Am I getting it right? But in life,

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<v Speaker 6>when you're talking to somebody, you're actually talking to somebody

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<v Speaker 6>for a reason, Like that's the whole thing we learn

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<v Speaker 6>about like objective intention. Right, It's like you're communicating something

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<v Speaker 6>and it only works if that person hears you, So

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<v Speaker 6>like really focusing on trying to transform the actor across

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<v Speaker 6>from you with your words and not like am I

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<v Speaker 6>saying this right? But like no are they? Am I

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<v Speaker 6>getting the idea? Across that I need to be getting across.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in season three, if you can kind of remember

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<v Speaker 2>this is season three, and I want to say, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, is that what's going on in your life?

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<v Speaker 6>Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>I think so? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you could see it on your face. You could,

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<v Speaker 1>you have, but not because it was large. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. It's there's there's a certain like a

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<v Speaker 1>glow and a confidence.

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<v Speaker 6>Plumpness it is. I don't mind it. I remember I

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<v Speaker 6>used to say to Shonda, like, can Olivia be like

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<v Speaker 6>instead of swimming this season, can she'd be eating a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of chocolate? Because how blame.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a little bit larger.

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<v Speaker 5>She's three oh two. I mean this is today. We're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about episode three or two.

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<v Speaker 2>So you must have been you might have been in

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<v Speaker 2>your life in this season. I think you might have

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<v Speaker 2>been prego, but you maybe hadn't announced it yet. Just

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<v Speaker 2>to give context what's going on, but also in professional

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<v Speaker 2>land context, this is around the time like, look, you

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<v Speaker 2>are obviously a very very very successful actress before scandal,

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<v Speaker 2>you had done a million moves and like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking season three. This is now at the time

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<v Speaker 2>where you are like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's crazy your life deals like this is a

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<v Speaker 6>cover of Vanity for now crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is Oh my god, is that Carrie fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Washington everywhere you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you speak to Mariah Carey tweeting at us?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy times.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like this is season three, so middle of

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<v Speaker 2>season two, Juggernauts starts to take off and now exactly

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<v Speaker 2>we're an SNL that any fair can you talk to

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<v Speaker 2>it all about how your life changed?

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<v Speaker 6>It was just such a complete loss of anonymity, right,

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<v Speaker 6>like a complete we all you felt it. We all

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<v Speaker 6>felt it. It went from being like, oh, I can

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<v Speaker 6>run into the supermarket and there might be one or

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<v Speaker 6>two people who's like I really like that show, to

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<v Speaker 6>like we would arrive places and there were screaming crowds

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<v Speaker 6>of thousands of people. We were like, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 6>It just was different. Everything was different. It was like

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<v Speaker 6>being followed by the paparazzi for the first time. It

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<v Speaker 6>was Yeah, it was wild. It was really wild.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what was cool? We talked a lot as

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<v Speaker 5>a group.

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember having a lot of conversations with like

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus and Carriage, and we were in it together and

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<v Speaker 2>really being like with Darby and just like all of

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<v Speaker 2>us sort of like trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>like support one another when this had never happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>But to carry you more than anybody else, that was

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember carry there was We

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<v Speaker 1>might have talked about this the last time you were on,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was a day that we bumped into each

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<v Speaker 1>other at Whole Foods and I barely freaking recognize you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like you do a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>when you want to be incognito, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because you had like these big old.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I put on my big glasses and I

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<v Speaker 6>like I have hoods and hats and yes, yes, people.

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<v Speaker 5>Are so young. No, we were talking about the beginning

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<v Speaker 5>of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're someone that would walk into the makeup trailer or

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<v Speaker 2>wherever when you're like not made up and your hair

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<v Speaker 2>is not done and you're in your jeen jacket, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, she looks like like just

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<v Speaker 2>you're so young looking like people would probably be like

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<v Speaker 2>is that Carrie Washington?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, but yeah, that day I was like, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I barely recognized you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like doing a good job, and I.

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<v Speaker 6>Would, you know, still not make eye contact. That began

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<v Speaker 6>a period of like looking at the floor everywhere I went,

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<v Speaker 6>because you didn't want to make eye contact with people,

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<v Speaker 6>so you'd be like looking down. And but also do

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like we had I never felt isolated because

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<v Speaker 6>we had such a family in each other and because

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<v Speaker 6>we were on this ride together, and I felt always

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<v Speaker 6>so grateful for that that we really really had each

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<v Speaker 6>other to be experiencing this with and and processing it with,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. And and also that I was pregnant, that

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<v Speaker 6>I you know, I was a newlywed and I was

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<v Speaker 6>starting my family. So I also felt like I had

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<v Speaker 6>really like real world important priorities to be focused on.

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<v Speaker 6>So I wasn't like totally swept up in it, like

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<v Speaker 6>I had this new husband and you know that I

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<v Speaker 6>was mad that I'm still madly in love with, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I was pregnant, so I had this thing

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<v Speaker 6>I was protecting my new family. That so I had

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<v Speaker 6>our family and my real family, and so even though

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<v Speaker 6>there was lots of chaos, I did feel like clear

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<v Speaker 6>about the things that mattered.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do you guys remember Seana had this like that,

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<v Speaker 2>we had like this big I remember, God, it was

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<v Speaker 2>always so scary, But once in a blue moon they

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<v Speaker 2>would be like.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody stay after the table read and you're like, what

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<v Speaker 5>what is We're all getting fired?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It would always be like pick out the cast and

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<v Speaker 2>Crewe gift for Christmas, or it would be like yes.

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<v Speaker 5>It would be like you're in trouble. But one time

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<v Speaker 5>the talk was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she had been through this before with Grey's

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<v Speaker 2>Anatomy and probably learned a lot from that experience. But

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<v Speaker 2>the talk was sort of like anything happens, you call me, do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember being like, you get in a car accident,

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<v Speaker 2>you call me, like you fuck up?

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<v Speaker 5>You call me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't want to open up to something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in two days, knowing that I could have helped,

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<v Speaker 2>besides the fact that I mean, and look, we were.

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<v Speaker 5>All such goodie too shoe like typing.

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<v Speaker 6>Other casts and what they were, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, we were so good.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh good A lot more drugs apparently, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Any we didn't do any drugs and we only hung

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<v Speaker 2>out with each other.

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<v Speaker 5>We were so lame.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every time we would get to like these gatherings

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<v Speaker 2>where they'd be like all the hot shows of twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all together. It's like we didn't even fucking bother

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<v Speaker 2>talking to any other cast ever. We just hung out

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<v Speaker 2>with each other and.

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<v Speaker 6>Within and within our family. We also weren't like screwing

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<v Speaker 6>each other. Like literally, I tell people all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>like the only time anybody was making out was between

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<v Speaker 6>action and cut, Like, yes, true on camera, but off cameras,

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<v Speaker 6>it's so true to our spouses or our spouses were

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<v Speaker 6>hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yes, it was very very peat. It was very

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<v Speaker 2>R rated on camera and very PG off camera.

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<v Speaker 7>I just was like, g it was very like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll be right back, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Olivia Fan Burning questions for you Gladiators who missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but we put out the Pope signal to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gladiators who delivered very good burning questions for you

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<v Speaker 2>about season three.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have both. We have some that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to read off, some questions we're gonna read, and then

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<v Speaker 1>some of them we're going to hear the person's voice voicemails.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Okay, so Mari asks.

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<v Speaker 1>In season three, we're introduced to Live's complicated relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>her dad and her dead but not actually but actually

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<v Speaker 1>not dead mom. That got me thinking about what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of angsty teen music Live might have been into when

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<v Speaker 1>she was younger, probably mainly just to piss off Papa Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving me whole with Courtney Love the group whole.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, Carrie, what do you think young

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Pope was listening to in her angsty times?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I feel like Jagged Little Pill right, like

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<v Speaker 6>a lot. I think a lot of Alanis and I

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<v Speaker 6>think a lot of Radiohead. I feel like she would

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<v Speaker 6>have been very like I love it like moody because

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<v Speaker 6>it's because I feel like she's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 6>like a resistant romantic, so that Radiohead like melancholy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like oh I feel so deeply and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I know things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then computer, I was just gonna say, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying the same thing. An interesting little fun

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<v Speaker 1>fact is that young Olivia Pope was played by Yaha

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<v Speaker 1>Shahiti and four Blackish Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah yeah Blackish Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's been quoted about saying how incredible you were

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<v Speaker 3>to her on set and that you showed up to

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<v Speaker 3>set when she was shooting some of her stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and you like spoke to her and wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>her feel comfortable and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like Carrie fucking Washington again for people listening, actors

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't come wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Now because of Carrie.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that Washington school of acting, but most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I have to now even when I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to, because people think is what I do?

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody go to ex sept to do somebody they heard

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<v Speaker 6>I did it on Scandal like ship.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you talk to Yara about? Like what were

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<v Speaker 2>were you just like establishing a mother like a younger

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<v Speaker 2>older relationship, Like what were you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we had

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<v Speaker 6>a sense of each other. That she I mean, first

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<v Speaker 6>of all, I was like, she's so pretty. They think

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<v Speaker 6>that's what I look like. But I would just remember

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<v Speaker 6>like wanting to make sure that we agreed on the choices,

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<v Speaker 6>like what cereals she was eating, or like just and

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<v Speaker 6>just to make her feel welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I am this.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't like no one does this, like truly, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>does this. Okay, we've got a voicemail from Skyler in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and what is Skyla.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's say what Stylet Florida is saying.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't want to assume you talk like that.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say Florida because that's where my in laws live.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they talk like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But you do not, Skylar. Okay, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Kerrie, Katy and Giama. My name is Skyler and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from Florida. I'm a new Scandal fan. I've actually

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<v Speaker 4>watched it three and a half time since November. Right

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<v Speaker 4>now it's March, So I think that's enough about my obsession. Carrie,

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned in your book how your pregnancy here in

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<v Speaker 4>season three required you to adapt the ways you gave

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<v Speaker 4>yourself to Olivia Pope. Besides your physicality, what changed about

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<v Speaker 4>how you played Olivia and what these change is difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to adapt to. Ken, thank you so much and I

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<v Speaker 4>love you all. Blessay.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, we love Skyler.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we love Skylar Skyler.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god. So it really was just that I had.

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<v Speaker 6>I had. I think so much of how I enter

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<v Speaker 6>a character usually is through physicality, through understanding, like how

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<v Speaker 6>they walk, how they stand, like where they live. In

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<v Speaker 6>my body and so it felt very strange when I

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<v Speaker 6>got pregnant because my body as Carrie was totally transforming,

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<v Speaker 6>but Olivia wasn't supposed to be transforming. So I just

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<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, I felt like a fraud. I

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<v Speaker 6>felt like I felt like I was betraying her a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit, Like I was changing and she wasn't changing,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I was like not as devoted to her.

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<v Speaker 6>It was really weird. I felt like I was like

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<v Speaker 6>I was betraying her by doing this thing in my

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<v Speaker 6>personal life that was really important to me that I

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 6>wanted to do well. I started seeing a new acting

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<v Speaker 6>coach to figure out, like, Okay, what are other ways

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 6>into her? How can I really fully commit to her

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<v Speaker 6>when my body doesn't belong to her in the same way,

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<v Speaker 6>but I want all the rest of me to belong

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<v Speaker 6>to her, like my heart and my mind and my

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<v Speaker 6>every other cell, and even like, how could I let

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<v Speaker 6>the pregnancy be a part of the essence of her

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 6>even though it wasn't part of her physicality? So it

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 6>was cool because that season, Olivia was hiding a lot

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 6>of things emotionally, and so I started using like hiding

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 6>my pregnancy, my feelings are on hiding my pregnancy. I

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 6>started to lend them into Olivia's feelings about hiding her truth,

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 6>like she was hiding different truths than a pregnancy. But

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<v Speaker 6>I so, I just started looking for ways to to

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<v Speaker 6>kind of pour myself into her, my truths into her,

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<v Speaker 6>even though my body was so different.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so great, car.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Like you tried, did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>Could you were?

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even imagine like being playing Olivia Pope and

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<v Speaker 2>being pregnant and like wearing those shoes.

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I would have died which swollen ass feet?

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at my seat, my feet in both my pregnancies,

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't about your feet all the time, Kate on

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<v Speaker 6>the pilot complaining about the shoes.

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 5>But I so.

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 6>My mother told me that when she was pregnant with me,

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<v Speaker 6>her shoe size went up two sue sizes. And I

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 6>love shoes, you know. I love a heel, I love

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 6>you love his shoe.

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 5>I love you're so good in that.

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.160
<v Speaker 6>Would I love a Lubaitton? I love a shoe. Yeah,

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, I'm not throwing all these shoes away.

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 6>So I actually loved keeping the shoes on because I

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 6>was it was like my version of Japanese foot by name.

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 6>I was not going to let my feet grow. I

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 6>was not going to let my gorgeous shoe collection go

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 6>to waste. To this day, I think my shoes were

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 6>up like my feet maybe would up like a half

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 6>a size. But I squeeze, like like the Cinderella ste sisters,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 6>like I squeeze into the shoes I love anyway, So yeah,

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 6>I but I yeah, I love the shoes. I never

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 6>complained about the shoes.

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm so impressed by that.

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<v Speaker 2>The other member I have of you being pregnant, which

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>speaks to Skyler's question, is I think you were there

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>two g Also, something happens I think at the end

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>of this season where somebody don't pop a Pope shoots

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:54.160
<v Speaker 2>somebody in Huck's office and it's really scary, and Olivia

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 2>Pope is like screaming like no, no stop.

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 5>It's like really bad.

0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 6>I thought my dad would and then I thought my

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 6>dad was dead, like covered and on the floor, and.

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Then they would call cut and we would like go

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.120
<v Speaker 2>down to your belly and we'd be like, but it's

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>not fake, it's not me, it's fake.

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 5>We're just like this is a real trauma.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 6>We're just playing.

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.239
<v Speaker 5>This is I was there.

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I was down at that belly one time and I

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>heard a voice talk back and say, back up, motherfucker,

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 1>back up, stop touching my almost belly. You know.

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 6>Really she was like back up, back up, backup. Funny, Yes,

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 6>I remember. I also remember Super Awkward, which Janeau was

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 6>our director. So what episode was that I was so

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 6>pregnant put a staw on it, you know, and told

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 6>things And I had to do this sex scene, this

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.719
<v Speaker 6>love scene with Scott Foley, and I was like twelve

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 6>and a half months pregnant, and I remember this, you know,

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 6>being like, can you guys roll over in bed? And

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 6>it was like stop, like can you roll over this

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 6>mountain of a baby?

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 5>What did you do?

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 6>So we were laughing so hard. We're like in bed

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 6>making out so bad, so bad. I just like also

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 6>would go to my belly and be like, not your dad.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 6>We're like He's like, we're like pretending to sexy, roll

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 6>over to our side.

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 8>But Scott's like like like himself himself to like leap

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 8>over my belly to get to the other side of

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 8>the god.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is just also but you you being pregnant

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>also reminded me of all the wonderful food trends that

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>you introduced to me. I'm sure a lot of other people.

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken about it many a time. The first one

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>was our Yes and then the raw organic sour crawt

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>with mounds of.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Mut sweet potatoes.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>She had a peace period, a moment where she was

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with peas.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 5>We went through a thing of eating a hundred almonds

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 5>that were cooked in the microwaves like.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Hot sunset, and Katie had the pickles with hummus you had.

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I was I would eat that now, though I would

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 2>eat that now. Okay Brook from Melbourne, good luck on that.

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Do the accent, Katie to the accent for the whole thing.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 5>Shrimp on the Bobby, You're so bad.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay Brook from Melbourne, Australia asks, one of my favorite

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>episodes of all time is Vermont's for Lovers Too. What

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 2>was it like to see the Vermont House for the

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>first time and what about Vermont do you think provides

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a sense.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Of solace for Olitz as well as the audience?

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Those scenes were so magnificant, magnificant.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 6>So okay, first of all, shout out to the extraordinary

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 6>Ava Duverney because sheed that episode, and it was after

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 6>her feature had been at Sundance and she hadn't yet

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 6>become like the like Crazy Oscar nominated Banana's successful Mogul

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 6>Empire running Ava DuVernay that she is today. But the

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 6>talent was all there, the generosity was all there, the

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 6>fierceness was all there, and she's the exact right person

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 6>to have like found that Vermont house, which I then

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 6>later directed in A bunch of us directed in, but

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 6>she like discovered that house, established that house, put a

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 6>helicopter on the show, like just and that was so

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 6>funny because Okay, years later, maybe I told her the story.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 6>But years later she directed me in that Apple commercial

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 6>with Taraji and Mary Jim and she called me and

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 6>she was like, you have like a good side and

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 6>a bad side, right, And I was like what And

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 6>she was like, don't you like prefer to only be

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 6>shot from one angle? And I was like, Ava, you

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 6>have the wrong like that that is not me, Like

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't care who sheould be from the bottom from

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 6>the top side. Decided like just tell the story, but

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 6>like she was like, no, there was something. There was

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 6>something And I was like, I don't know who she's

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 6>confusing me with and then she called me back and

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 6>she was like, I know what it was. You were pregnant.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 6>And she was like, so I couldn't show from the

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 6>waist down, like we had to do this again, this

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 6>love scene of like you and Tony kissing. But I

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 6>just remember being like, I can't go past her waist

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 6>because she's got this belly. So I was like, yeah,

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 6>you don't have to worry about that now babies are out,

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 6>and shoot me however you want. But she was so

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 6>amazing and that episode was so amazing. And I think

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what it is that Shanda loves about

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Vermont that she wrote it, but it is perfect because

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 6>does feel like the perfect hideaway, romantic estate, perfect for Olitz.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 6>And I think of them often like being happy. I

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 6>think they're happy in Vermont, you guys. I think they're

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 6>making jam. I think they do like I do. I

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 6>think they do like occasional political consulting. I think they

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 6>like fly in and consult you know, kind of like

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 6>Judy Smith, Like you never know where Judy is. She

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 6>just shows uff at a crisis to fix stuff.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 4>So do that.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 6>I think that, Like he's a former president who like

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 6>Obama like sweeps in to do important things in the

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 6>world and maybe produces documentaries like the Obamas, and she's

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 6>like out there being a fixer. But their home base

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 6>is in Vermont. I think that they're that they're still

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 6>in love.

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 5>I can't.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>My parents live there and I go there all the time,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and I can't ever think about First of all, it

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>is it's the best, Like it's amazing, it's so beautiful,

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's so like progressive and cool and feels like

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>this sort of like utopia.

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 6>It's so wonderful, like that's where they should be.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 5>More food. It's a culinary podcast. We've tricked you all.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Should we ask we ask another question? Should we ask

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 3>one more question?

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>So Hillary asks, can you please ask Carrie to rank

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>her love interest on Scandal from Olivia's perspective and then

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>from your own perspective in terms of compatibility. Oh wow,

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So this is a this is like a freaking Jepardy question.

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 4>This is good.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, Okay, I don't I'm not going to

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 6>rank them as Carrie that just feels yeah. Yeah, So

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 6>I always felt like any guy who showed up to

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 6>be one of Olivia's love interests was like doing a

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 6>service to the show, and so I'm so appreciative that

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 6>they came in and took their clothes off. And I

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 6>mean I but and also such nice guys, right like

0:31:56.120 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 6>Brian wall Hernandez normally such nice, lovely, lovely human beings.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 6>Scott Foley not so much.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>That's public knowledge, yes, yeah.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 6>And then of course Tony Goldban is like my favorite,

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 6>one of my favorite human beings on the planet in

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 6>the galaxy. He's just the best. And I love Scott.

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 6>I love Scott of course, well this girl.

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 5>Loves Scott too.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Who wrote in Mariah Aka at Jake Ballard's bay, hey

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok asks everyone me wants confirmation that Olivia did

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>indeed love Jake to some extent. The Olitz stands keeps

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>coming for me. But I always make videos saying Jake

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was the better guy. He always made sure she was

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>eating and dancing and other stuff to keep this. But

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>she did love Jake like that was her person, her bestie.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>She just wasn't in love with him like she was

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>with Fit. Maybe I'm just Delulu, Oh Delulu, I love it.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But if I am, I'm not the only Delulu Gladiator

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>for o Lake.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Thanks besties, thank you.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 6>And that was a beautiful draaddic reading. I agree with her.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 6>I agree with her. I think that Olivia and Jake

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 6>really did love each other. I think she does love him,

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 6>And I actually love that about Shonda's writing, that that

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.479
<v Speaker 6>you actually can have more than one person in your life, right,

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 6>that you can love more than one person, but your

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 6>one final person that you end up with is the

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 6>one final person you end up with, right, Like I

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 6>think that Olitz is Olitz, and I do in my

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 6>mind and heart believe that they're happy together now. But

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 6>I think that Olake was a real thing, and I

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 6>do think that Jake. I think she's right, like, Jake

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 6>loved Olivia in ways that were really important, and he

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 6>taught her a lot. They taught each other a lot.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 6>They really they had a different kind of intimacy that

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 6>I think was really really special, and I love their relationship.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 6>I think the show would not have been the show

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 6>without Olake. They think in many ways, like you appreciate

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 6>you appreciate Olitz because you know that it was even more.

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 6>It was a different kind of love that when beyond Olake,

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 6>but Olake helps you understand what Olitz is right, So yeah,

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 6>I agree, And I think also, you know, when I

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 6>was talking about these other guys who would come onto

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 6>the show, I also think like the role that Scott

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 6>fully played in in like really leaning into the uniqueness

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 6>of their love and and understanding what Olitz was but

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 6>still holding space for Olake. I don't think there's a

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 6>lot of actors that could have help that space the

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 6>way Scott fully did. Like he's such a he's such

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 6>an incredible human being and such an incredible actor, and

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 6>and you know had had the fan base around OLiS

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 6>that he did, and but Scott. It takes somebody with

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 6>Scott's level of like talent and like he's so attractive

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 6>and so likable and so accessible, like you you love him,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 6>like you can't not love him, and that we needed and.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Ask Scott so pro level at it, Like he's made

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a whole I feel like so much of his career

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>has been love Tryangle. Yes, Yeah, that's the whole show

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>is like him their Speedmen and Felicity. Like he's done

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 2>that for four between those two shows, that's literally fourteen

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>years of living in a love trying.

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 6>I think that's a superpower. I think somebody who like

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.439
<v Speaker 6>is very very very very loved and very very very

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 6>very hated, and to hold that space of like I'm

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 6>not threatened, I'm I can hold all of that energy

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 6>and just show up every day and be that and

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 6>let fans like spin out of control because they love

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 6>me so much or hate me so much. Like it

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.439
<v Speaker 6>takes a special human being to do that. And I think,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 6>I just think Scott is He's He's he's the best.

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 6>He's the best, right, He's just.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Like and a great director, and he directed us a

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>bunch of times.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>On the show.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 6>And sure I learned so much from Scott as a director.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 6>And I would say I learned just as much from

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 6>Scott when he wasn't directing about nothing, because we would

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 6>have a director on set and I would look over

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 6>it at Scott and he would be like, why are

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 6>we doing that? And I'm like, what are you talking about?

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 6>And He's like, we could be home an hour earlier

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 6>if we put a camera here, in a camera here,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 6>and a camera here, and I'd be.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 5>Like, oh, wow, we rehearsing a scene.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 6>We'd be rehearsing a scene and I'd be like, well,

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 6>I'd be like, my character would stand over here, and

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 6>he'd be like, if your character stands over there, Carrie,

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 6>we are going to be here for another two hours.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 8>And I'd be like, he's got it, so he.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 6>But he's But also he wasn't like phoning it in.

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't like, don't stand over there because then we

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 6>can't go home. He was like, how can we make

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 6>the scene work.

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 5>And how we be efficient and honor of the scene. Yeah,

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 5>we will be back with more after the break.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, before we move, We're going to hit the

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 2>episode really quickly.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 5>But I'm going to do g let's do it. I

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 5>know it's going to be that's only gonna be last

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 5>five minutes because that's how we do this.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But wait, thank you, We're gonna do a speed round

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>of the last like few questions that fans have asked,

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>because I want them to get them in.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's hear from Frankie and Ruby Ontario.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 4>If Olivia could season three, So one piece of advice,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 4>what do you think it would be and how do

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 4>you imagine it would have altered the course of season three?

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.720
<v Speaker 6>That's all I have to say. By one piece of advice,

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 6>I think about like Vermont is for the lovers. So

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm thinking about that episode, So I would say, like,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 6>just trust that it's going to be okay, Like it

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 6>feels like the romance trauma feels so overwhelming, but it's

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 6>gonna be okay.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 5>Love it.

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's good. That's always do it. That's always good advice.

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well go and cheat that homegirl, gun cheat that

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>ask there's one thing Carrie could change about Olivia?

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 3>What would it be?

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I wouldn't change a thing about Eliza. Yeah, because yeah,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 6>I love her. I love her messy, awesome journey. Yeah,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 6>I just love her. I guess maybe you know. And

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 6>I think about like Carrie pregnant walking down the hall,

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 6>like I was trying to do the Olivia Pope walk.

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 6>It was more like an Olivia Pope waddle. I remember,

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 6>like I remember, I had like tension. I remember I

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 6>had to go to like a physical therapist because my

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 6>inner thighs were so tense because I was trying to

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 6>keep my walk like on Olivia Pope walk.

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 5>Pope's signature walk is not fucking around.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 6>It's it was a thing. But so I guess I would.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't change a thing about her. I really wouldn't.

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't I love that. I love that.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 1>There's one question here, it's such a good no no.

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ash a ka, it's it's Tony Braxton on Twitter

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 2>asks me, first, why is there no receptionist that Olivia

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Pope and associates and firing one.

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 6>We never trusted anybody enough to.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Be exactly, yes, agreed all the rest right, We were

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.280
<v Speaker 1>all the rest exactly.

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 6>There was no hierarchy. It was very much like all

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 6>for one, one for all, So having a receptionist would

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 6>be like somebody working for us. But we were all

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:57.959
<v Speaker 6>working for each other all the time.

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, Yeah, I couldn't trust We couldn't trust a receptionist,

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>although no one was kind of a receptionist Season one

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and her sister I.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Got people coffee. Okay.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Second, what do you think Olivia Pope would be up

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 2>to these days, which we've already addressed. She's in Vermont,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>she's Judy smith ing, She's kind of going around consulting.

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Is she maybe also encouraging everyone to vote.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 6>A hundred person after stealing an election?

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 8>She?

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 6>I do? I think she would. I think part of

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 6>what Olivia like, part of the framework of who Olivia

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 6>Pope is she really wants people to know that they matter,

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 6>Like she really has so much compassion for people, and

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 6>she's so non judgmental. She really she understands that you

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 6>are not who you are on your worst day, that

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 6>everybody deserves a second chance, that we all matter, that

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 6>we all are important, we're all like equal children of God.

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 6>So in that vein like, yes, voting is really important

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 6>to her, like she wants people to know that they

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 6>matter and that this democracy only works when we all

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 6>show up. And now, more than ever, like this, we

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 6>are at a time in this country where I know

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 6>that you might feel like you don't matter. I know

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 6>that you might feel like these systems don't work for you.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 6>I know that you might feel like no matter what

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 6>you do, things stay the same, and the powerful people

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 6>have stuff and the rest of us don't. I get that.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.320
<v Speaker 6>I get those feelings. But the only way it changes

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 6>is if we show up in faith and say, like,

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 6>I think I can help make it better. That's what

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 6>we need. We need everybody to feel like maybe if

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 6>you show up, you can help make it better, because

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 6>it's only going to get better if we all show up,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 6>and it's not going to happen overnight. It's not going

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 6>to be one president. It's not going to be one

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 6>person who fixes it. Like I keep saying to people,

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 6>each and every one of us, we are the Olivia

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 6>Popes of our lives, of our communities, Like we have

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 6>the power to transform this world. But we have to

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 6>show up and we have to believe that, and we

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 6>can't leave it to one president or it's like all

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 6>the little elections, the mayors and the sheriffs and the judges,

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 6>and it's about just showing up and trying. We have

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 6>to try. I feel like that's so opa, right, like

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 6>over a cliff. Yeah, yeah, we have to be there

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 6>for each other.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 5>Over a cliff, for this place.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is what we're talking about today, which we've

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 2>got a QW things that you can easily answer.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 5>It's episode three oh.

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Two guests Who's Coming to Dinner which aired on October

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 2>tenth in twenty thirteen, and.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>It was written by Heather Mitchell and directed by Alison

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Lady Brown You.

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 5>Love Alison Brown, Alison.

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 2>It was guest starring Norm Lewis's Senator Edison Davis, Dan

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 2>w Bailey, Is Noah Elliott.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Kate McGregor Stewart is married and Kristen Carrey as Brooke Foster.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 5>Gee, you want to do a synopsis for me?

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 6>Baby, Let's do it.

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's you do it? You do it?

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 5>Should we do it in heart and sync?

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's try that.

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I love it. I love it.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, ready because Carrie's here are number one person? Ready, one, two, three,

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>go Whie houses plans. We're giving flashbacks to her.

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 6>Father's dinners and relationship with howk grew. In the end,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 6>some shocking secrets are revealed, like.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Learned to love a big, big glass of wine and

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Jake Ballard.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 2>This is where here's the biggest things that we need

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 2>to just talk about very quickly before you go. Your

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>looks shift a bunch in this episode. It's crazy, like

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>there's all these flashbacks to you having dinners with your

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.399
<v Speaker 2>father Pope and g being Haggrid huck in the thing,

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and you get your bag stolen and and you start

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to put together to your dad like there was this

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 2>guy and he helped me, and your dad is like dadada,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and you were like the guy brought up B six

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>thirteen and your dad is like what, And then you

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 2>take your dad's pen, and you figure out where hawk

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>is from. And you're standing on the corner of Wonderland

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Avenue in front of acne paper and you look at

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>the pen that your dad gave you and it says

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.959
<v Speaker 2>the same fucking pen. And you put it all together

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and you learn this episode your dad is command and

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>that Huck was part of the whole thing.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 5>It's crazy and you it's so amazing. Do you remember

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:17.799
<v Speaker 5>picking these?

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>So this was when you wore your hair in like

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a bang with like a curlly.

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 5>Can you talk to us this episode? It was so big?

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>How you and Linda via Lobos, who I love so much,

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>shout out to the greatest hair.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 5>This is not a hair, got it? Do you remember

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 5>picking these? This hair? And like, how and why?

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:43.760
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Unbelievable, it's my favorite Olivia hair.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't I just remember. I mean that we had

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 6>so many wigs, remember who was like people would laugh

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 6>at how many wigs we would have on our show.

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 6>It was just like end.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 3>And it was like there were several people wearing wigs.

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, yes, gosh no, but it's so fun. It's

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 6>so fun to see these pictures.

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, don't you love your coats?

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Let me see these, It's we always do Olivia Pope's

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 2>fashion moment.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 5>These coats are unbelievable.

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 6>In this episode, Paolo, Linda was amazing because Linda came

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 6>So I met Linda many many years ago. We had

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 6>done a bunch of movies together. But her, like sure,

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 6>like what I always think is her coolest credit on

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 6>her resume is that she did in Living Color with

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 6>the Waynes Brothers in the like back in the day

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 6>when Jlo.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 7>Was a weekend Yeah, all those crazy wigs right, like

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 7>that sketch comedy world where it was like a different

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 7>way every five minutes.

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 6>And like big bald, awesome character changes through costume and

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 6>makeup and wigs. So she's just a master at her craft.

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 6>And she did this job, an incredible job of tracking

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 6>Olivia through hair. It was like the big one of

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 6>the biggest ways that we told story about where Olivia

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 6>was in time and emotionally was with her hair.

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 6>I mean I remember being in the shower and like

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 6>having that wet Olivia curler, being out on the island

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:20.800
<v Speaker 6>with Jake when we escaped curly hair. People were like, what,

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 6>like she really you know she was?

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>She was so awesome and in that run episode. Remember

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the episode when you're running with like a camera in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you and your hair is all like supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, it was so messy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Fait, We always do you.

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<v Speaker 2>We do Kerry Washington school of acting on this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>where we talked about who who won? We do Olivia

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Pope fashion moments. Okay, this episode really didn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>like big things. We always do Kerry Washington School of

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Acting moments where it's like who won the scenes of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Episode, and you and Papa Pope have the most amazing

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 5>scenes in this episode. It's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>But then my favorite end of the episode, actually, if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember shooting this, Huck slams Olivia Pope up against

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<v Speaker 2>a car and has her jaw like this because he

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<v Speaker 2>finds out that your dad is command and is the

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<v Speaker 2>person that took his whole life away and threw him

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<v Speaker 2>in a hole in all of this, right, like, when

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember shooting that?

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<v Speaker 6>Nope?

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<v Speaker 5>Is remember shooting that?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember shooting you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being really disturbed and upsets that I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, that Huck had to do that to

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<v Speaker 1>live because I felt it was it was it wasn't right,

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<v Speaker 1>like if.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't feel it didn't feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct for Huck to react that way and put his

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<v Speaker 1>hands on her. I remember having a problem with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I mean, you can't but remember.

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<v Speaker 5>The last best part of this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Really is that we learn in these back flashes you're

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<v Speaker 2>having dinner with Papa Pope his house and he's like,

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.720
<v Speaker 2>would you know he's making this like ridiculously amazing steak

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>or something, and he's like, would you like wine? You're like,

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't drink wine, and of course the whole audience

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<v Speaker 2>is like, Olivia popes like wine and he's like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>because you've never had good wine. And then he pours

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<v Speaker 2>you something that's delicious and we see, which I thought

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.520
<v Speaker 2>was so brilliant, but we see for the first time

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're acting in this moment, is like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the Nectar of the Gods has like touched your

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 2>mouth and you on her obsession with red wine and

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 2>we get to see it and that she only likes

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>good wine and that that was something that was introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to her by her father, and that that was something

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 2>that didn't used to happen in her life. She didn't

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>used to chug goblets of red wine. I mean, it

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 2>was like so fucking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 6>Shout out to our scandal writers. I just love that

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 6>they meant stuff like that, that we got to that

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 6>we got to build. I love that our show was

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 6>always moving forward but always moving backward. That we as

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 6>we were like you know, progressing plot, we were also

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 6>filling in the past all the time. Yes, sort of

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 6>the DNA of the show. And I just I love it.

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 6>I love that we just were always kind of growing

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 6>our roots and our leaves right like constantly with these cameras.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>True, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I am so appalled at how little I remember, But

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 6>it was it was the whirlwind of you know, these

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 6>sixteen hour days of I've just it was such a

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 6>high volume of material that I was having to metabolize

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 6>all the time that it was like in and out,

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 6>in and out, Like it was really I really I

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 6>think about it. I'm like, I feel like when people

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 6>talk about how they don't remember stuff when they channel,

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 6>like you know, like like people who channel ancestors or

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 6>they're like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hypnotized, They're like hypnotized, they're like on a different plane

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it has been working through me constantly, and just I

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 2>was like, the special the most lines probably in the

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 2>history of television, ninetyay pages.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny because now anytime that I'm on a set

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 6>and somebody's like, ooh, today's a heavy day for you,

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.320
<v Speaker 6>I laugh. I'm like you and you're.

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, this is heavy, kidding me, Yeah.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 6>It's like kidding me. Or like the other day on

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 6>the show, I'm I'm on a half hour comedy.

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>And I do President's Amazing.

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 6>And my character does these really fun like little monologues

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 6>on Instagram. And the other day we had an actor

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 6>who had we had an emergency on set and so

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 6>they were like, we had to pivot, we had to

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 6>shoot something else, and they were like, do you think

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 6>you could memorize the monologues? And I turned to Sherry,

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 6>who's my makeup bars on and it was also my

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 6>makeup bars on piano, and I was like, Sherry, do

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 6>you think I can memorize the monologues? And She's like,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 6>yeahtect me like it's.

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's say yeah, but you also you have to

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>let that stuff go. It has to go in and

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>out or else you don't have the bandwidth for something new, right, Like,

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Katie is the only actor I know that

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>can recite a soliloquy from a freaking placed like ten

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Working early on I've still got but I can't tell

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you like and everything else is put into.

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<v Speaker 5>The short term bad it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>I think part of that too is also being a

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 6>mom and a wife, right, is that like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>at a certain point, I didn't have the luxury like

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<v Speaker 6>in college where you would remember stuff and you'd you'd

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<v Speaker 6>live with it and you'd sleep with it, and you'd

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 6>go home and think, I remember when I did Last

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<v Speaker 6>King of Scotland, Like I was that character all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like in my hotel like I was heard

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<v Speaker 6>like all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, what a nightmare.

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 6>But I couldn't Like I couldn't do that on Scandal.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 6>I didn't like a toddler. I wasn't gonna go home

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 6>and be like, it's my name on that door, like

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 6>you got to let that go and like you know,

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 6>like can you imagine namdu space my name on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Door handles there's people, let's go.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go. Solid food starts this week.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't think we forgot anything. G did

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<v Speaker 2>we forget anything before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got and then you guys next listeners.

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<v Speaker 5>Episode three oh three, Missus.

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<v Speaker 2>Smith goes to Washington. I don't remember what the hell

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 2>that is or we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, she's the one that puts makes a bomb and

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>straps it on her body.

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<v Speaker 3>Carry Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I remember all the lasers and the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Really intense episode.

0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Me and Carrie thank you so much for so much.

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Person to come and have do audience participation.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the best having you. Gladiator sending question is

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<v Speaker 5>the greatest.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 2>And someday when you rewatch, when you're really think you're

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna do it, when you're like eighty.

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>We should do it all together. We should have like

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a hang and watch like a bunch of episodes together.

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<v Speaker 5>Fun Carrie, because you didn't really remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Any like I don't remember any of it either, and

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I had nothing con bear to you. But Quinn comes

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:15.879
<v Speaker 2>in there, I'm like, what ye.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>What am I doing?

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Like we just got to the scene where Honk and

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Quinn like hook up for the first time, and I

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that was coming.

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 5>Did you hear?

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 3>No at all?

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 5>No idea? What's happening and it's so fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Can we also, I like, I know we keep saying it,

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.839
<v Speaker 6>but it's so overdue, Like I miss you guys. We

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 6>need to get to get there.

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm like, yo, we need and it doesn't need

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:41.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, we should have to have a dinner.

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we need to have like an east coast

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 6>and a west coast because I know that's where I

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 6>not everybody's here and not everybody's there, So maybe we

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 6>just need to do like we're going to do an

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 6>eaper coast and a west coast and west there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 6>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody get Carrie's book. Everybody watching? Yeah, so everybody rewatch

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Scandal on Hulu. What else am I missing? Any of

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the plugs?

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<v Speaker 6>Noo oh, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>We had Carrie Washington on. Thank you, carry love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, love you so much. You're the greatest orlest

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<v Speaker 5>my may.

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