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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradiots, Yeah Yeahs and Katie.

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Speaker 2: This is a very exciting episode. But before we get

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Speaker 2: into the episode, it is man, G just had at

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Speaker 2: the time this recording an amazing birthday. I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to know. What are you someone that's not into

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Speaker 2: birthday numbers or you are?

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Speaker 3: I don't really care. I really don't care.

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Speaker 1: I get it's it's so funny when I tell my

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Speaker 1: age and then people are like what I'm like, do

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Speaker 1: you do you not see like.

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Speaker 3: That's a little bit like insulting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but well you do look they're probably you

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Speaker 2: do look amazing, though. I feel like you're someone who's

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Speaker 2: looked young. You're his true true looked young your whole life.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, right, I think, so, yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: a I feel like I have a babyface.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But then there's people like, you know, there's people like

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't I look so good and so young?

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Speaker 1: You look so I feel like you you're getting younger

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Speaker 1: and younger looking. Do you ever look back at the episodes, Like,

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Speaker 1: even watching this episode, some of them close ups on Huk,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh damn, I feel like I damn

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: Reilly, Oh my god, I thought we looked like babies,

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Speaker 2: like if we look young for our age. Now I

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Speaker 2: look at us on Scandal, I feel like we look

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Speaker 2: like full blown teenagers.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we look like so young it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes do you ever think like, how did I get cast?

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Speaker 1: I look like a kid?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: How did I get cast in this role?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: How did anyone believe that I could be someone that

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Speaker 2: like has a job? Yeah, or like a backstory? Yes,

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Speaker 2: this episode is amazing. We have in store for our

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Speaker 2: gladiators today, probably their most favorite guest if I would

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Speaker 2: have put money on it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this is this is what an important like special guest.

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Speaker 1: This is We're taping on a freaking Saturday. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we a Saturday.

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Speaker 3: How many saturdays did we work on Scandal?

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Speaker 4: We worked?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, we worked a bunch of saturdays on Scandal.

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Speaker 2: So the weekends were not forty eight hours, they were

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Speaker 2: like thirty six at best.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and we loved it. We we did it again.

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Speaker 1: Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Look, she's busy, she's busy. She's got a very busy life,

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Speaker 2: a very busy personal life.

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Speaker 5: It's a very full life.

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Speaker 2: And we're very grateful to have her because Gladiators, like

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Speaker 2: I've said before, it is your most favorite, number one

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Speaker 2: guest of guests of all time. She has been on

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Speaker 2: the pod once before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's gracing us with her presence yet again.

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Speaker 6: Who I love you so much.

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Speaker 2: We love you so much, Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 2: this again. You are obviously we've been teasing you. We're like,

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Speaker 2: she's everyone's number one guest as everybody would only want

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Speaker 2: her to have her on the Gladiators.

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Speaker 5: There's no way to even tease.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first, Gladiators, thank you for answering the call of

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Speaker 2: all of our posts on the social medis for amazing

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Speaker 2: questions that we're going to get to you in two minutes.

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Speaker 2: But before that, we just have to say between the

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Speaker 2: last time we had Carrie Washington, the one and only

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Speaker 5: Podcast, you wrote a book that came out which.

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Speaker 2: Is insane, and we need to just talk about in

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Speaker 2: the book of how it relates to this podcast. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned in the book that your real life sometime paralleled Olivia,

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Speaker 2: and if you were comfortable in just saying that, because

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Speaker 2: if there's anything that relates to Olivia on this podcast,

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Speaker 2: we would love to have you speak about you.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I caught you, guys. I love I

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Speaker 6: think I have a hard time remembering like what I

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Speaker 6: So I totally remember that that couch and I was like,

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Speaker 5: It was so crazy, what are you gonna wear an

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Speaker 6: So it's just like those special memories of being on

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Speaker 6: our lives? Like what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: When?

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Speaker 1: Then Oprah showed up on set, like I'm grow keen

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Speaker 6: Off the elevators at OPA and like, yeah, it's insane,

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Speaker 5: I love the part in the book where you talk

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Speaker 6: That story is as well shocking that that's your favorite.

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Speaker 6: That story is very special to me. It's very very

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Speaker 6: And yes, I was talking a little about how like

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Speaker 6: so many ways like that these characters kind of gave

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Speaker 2: I think it's really TV is really different than I

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Speaker 2: But I think when you're working eighty hours a week

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Speaker 2: And in the book, Carrie talks about this moment where

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Speaker 6: But you were really talking about you stepping into like

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Speaker 6: And and you know, like every time we weren't acting,

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Speaker 1: Remember we we used to talk. We used to mention

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Speaker 2: And Carrie used to do this thing for actors listening,

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Speaker 5: And I'm curious who taught you that?

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Speaker 2: you would use our real like sometimes you'd be.

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Speaker 3: I kept I kept in my head. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Instead of just sort of letting go and then letting

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Speaker 1: whatever new magic like you were saying, happens in the moment,

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Speaker 6: Because I think instead of have faith in those moments,

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Speaker 6: So I have to hold on so tight as opposed

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Speaker 5: You used to you gave me the most.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, is that what's going on in your life?

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Speaker 1: Can you speak to Mariah Carey tweeting at us?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It would always be like pick out the cast and

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Speaker 5: It would be like you're in trouble. But one time

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Speaker 2: You know, she had been through this before with Grey's

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like I remember being like, you get in a car accident,

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Speaker 5: You call me?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to open up to something,

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Speaker 5: We were so lame.

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Speaker 2: Like every time we would get to like these gatherings

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Speaker 6: Within and within our family. We also weren't like screwing

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Speaker 2: Olivia Fan Burning questions for you Gladiators who missed it,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but we put out the Pope signal to

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Speaker 2: the Gladiators who delivered very good burning questions for you

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Speaker 2: about season three.

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Speaker 1: So we have both. We have some that we're going

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, so Mari asks.

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Speaker 1: In season three, we're introduced to Live's complicated relationship with

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Speaker 1: It's giving me whole with Courtney Love the group whole.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Carrie, what do you think young

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like oh I feel so deeply and I feel

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Speaker 5: Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 1: And then computer, I was just gonna say, I think

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Speaker 1: Shahiti and four Blackish Yes.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah yeah Blackish Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And she's been quoted about saying how incredible you were

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Speaker 2: Just like Carrie fucking Washington again for people listening, actors

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Speaker 5: They don't come wait.

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Speaker 3: Now because of Carrie.

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Speaker 2: Like that Washington school of acting, but most people don't

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Speaker 6: I feel like I have to now even when I

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Speaker 6: Everybody go to ex sept to do somebody they heard

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Speaker 6: I did it on Scandal like ship.

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Speaker 2: What did you talk to Yara about? Like what were

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that we had

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Speaker 5: And you know, I am this.

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Speaker 2: I can't like no one does this, like truly, nobody

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Speaker 2: does this. Okay, we've got a voicemail from Skyler in Florida,

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Speaker 2: and what is Skyla.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say what Stylet Florida is saying.

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Speaker 6: We don't want to assume you talk like that.

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Speaker 5: You don't.

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Speaker 2: I just say Florida because that's where my in laws live.

447
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: That's why they talk like that.

448
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 5: But you do not, Skylar. Okay, let's hear it.

449
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 4: Hi, Kerrie, Katy and Giama. My name is Skyler and

450
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 4: I'm from Florida. I'm a new Scandal fan. I've actually

451
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: watched it three and a half time since November. Right

452
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: now it's March, So I think that's enough about my obsession. Carrie,

453
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: you mentioned in your book how your pregnancy here in

454
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 4: season three required you to adapt the ways you gave

455
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 4: yourself to Olivia Pope. Besides your physicality, what changed about

456
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: how you played Olivia and what these change is difficult

457
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 4: to adapt to. Ken, thank you so much and I

458
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 4: love you all. Blessay.

459
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 6: Oh my god, we love Skyler.

460
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we love Skylar Skyler.

461
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 6: Oh god. So it really was just that I had.

462
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 6: I had. I think so much of how I enter

463
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 6: a character usually is through physicality, through understanding, like how

464
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,479
Speaker 6: they walk, how they stand, like where they live. In

465
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 6: my body and so it felt very strange when I

466
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 6: got pregnant because my body as Carrie was totally transforming,

467
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 6: but Olivia wasn't supposed to be transforming. So I just

468
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, I felt like a fraud. I

469
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 6: felt like I felt like I was betraying her a

470
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 6: little bit, Like I was changing and she wasn't changing,

471
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 6: and so I was like not as devoted to her.

472
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 6: It was really weird. I felt like I was like

473
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 6: I was betraying her by doing this thing in my

474
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 6: personal life that was really important to me that I

475
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 6: wanted to do well. I started seeing a new acting

476
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 6: coach to figure out, like, Okay, what are other ways

477
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 6: into her? How can I really fully commit to her

478
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 6: when my body doesn't belong to her in the same way,

479
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 6: but I want all the rest of me to belong

480
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 6: to her, like my heart and my mind and my

481
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 6: every other cell, and even like, how could I let

482
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 6: the pregnancy be a part of the essence of her

483
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 6: even though it wasn't part of her physicality? So it

484
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 6: was cool because that season, Olivia was hiding a lot

485
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 6: of things emotionally, and so I started using like hiding

486
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: my pregnancy, my feelings are on hiding my pregnancy. I

487
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 6: started to lend them into Olivia's feelings about hiding her truth,

488
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 6: like she was hiding different truths than a pregnancy. But

489
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 6: I so, I just started looking for ways to to

490
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 6: kind of pour myself into her, my truths into her,

491
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 6: even though my body was so different.

492
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: That's so great, car.

493
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 6: Right, Like you tried, did you?

494
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: Like?

495
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 5: Could you were?

496
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't even imagine like being playing Olivia Pope and

497
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: being pregnant and like wearing those shoes.

498
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: I would have died which swollen ass feet?

499
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, at my seat, my feet in both my pregnancies,

500
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

501
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 6: I don't about your feet all the time, Kate on

502
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 6: the pilot complaining about the shoes.

503
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 5: But I so.

504
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 6: My mother told me that when she was pregnant with me,

505
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 6: her shoe size went up two sue sizes. And I

506
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 6: love shoes, you know. I love a heel, I love

507
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 6: you love his shoe.

508
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: I love you're so good in that.

509
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: Would I love a Lubaitton? I love a shoe. Yeah,

510
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 6: And I was like, I'm not throwing all these shoes away.

511
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 6: So I actually loved keeping the shoes on because I

512
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 6: was it was like my version of Japanese foot by name.

513
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 6: I was not going to let my feet grow. I

514
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 6: was not going to let my gorgeous shoe collection go

515
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 6: to waste. To this day, I think my shoes were

516
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 6: up like my feet maybe would up like a half

517
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: a size. But I squeeze, like like the Cinderella ste sisters,

518
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 6: like I squeeze into the shoes I love anyway, So yeah,

519
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 6: I but I yeah, I love the shoes. I never

520
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 6: complained about the shoes.

521
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: I'm so impressed by that.

522
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: The other member I have of you being pregnant, which

523
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: speaks to Skyler's question, is I think you were there

524
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: two g Also, something happens I think at the end

525
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: of this season where somebody don't pop a Pope shoots

526
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: somebody in Huck's office and it's really scary, and Olivia

527
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: Pope is like screaming like no, no stop.

528
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: It's like really bad.

529
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 6: I thought my dad would and then I thought my

530
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 6: dad was dead, like covered and on the floor, and.

531
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: Then they would call cut and we would like go

532
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: down to your belly and we'd be like, but it's

533
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: not fake, it's not me, it's fake.

534
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 5: We're just like this is a real trauma.

535
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 6: We're just playing.

536
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 5: This is I was there.

537
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: I was down at that belly one time and I

538
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: heard a voice talk back and say, back up, motherfucker,

539
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: back up, stop touching my almost belly. You know.

540
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 6: Really she was like back up, back up, backup. Funny, Yes,

541
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 6: I remember. I also remember Super Awkward, which Janeau was

542
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 6: our director. So what episode was that I was so

543
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 6: pregnant put a staw on it, you know, and told

544
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 6: things And I had to do this sex scene, this

545
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 6: love scene with Scott Foley, and I was like twelve

546
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 6: and a half months pregnant, and I remember this, you know,

547
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 6: being like, can you guys roll over in bed? And

548
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 6: it was like stop, like can you roll over this

549
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 6: mountain of a baby?

550
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 5: What did you do?

551
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 6: So we were laughing so hard. We're like in bed

552
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 6: making out so bad, so bad. I just like also

553
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 6: would go to my belly and be like, not your dad.

554
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 6: We're like He's like, we're like pretending to sexy, roll

555
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 6: over to our side.

556
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 8: But Scott's like like like himself himself to like leap

557
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 8: over my belly to get to the other side of

558
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 8: the god.

559
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: But this is just also but you you being pregnant

560
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: also reminded me of all the wonderful food trends that

561
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: you introduced to me. I'm sure a lot of other people.

562
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I've spoken about it many a time. The first one

563
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: was our Yes and then the raw organic sour crawt

564
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: with mounds of.

565
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: Mut sweet potatoes.

566
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: She had a peace period, a moment where she was

567
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: obsessed with peas.

568
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 6: Yeah.

569
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: We went through a thing of eating a hundred almonds

570
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: that were cooked in the microwaves like.

571
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Hot sunset, and Katie had the pickles with hummus you had.

572
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: I was I would eat that now, though I would

573
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 2: eat that now. Okay Brook from Melbourne, good luck on that.

574
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: Do the accent, Katie to the accent for the whole thing.

575
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: Shrimp on the Bobby, You're so bad.

576
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Okay Brook from Melbourne, Australia asks, one of my favorite

577
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: episodes of all time is Vermont's for Lovers Too. What

578
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: was it like to see the Vermont House for the

579
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: first time and what about Vermont do you think provides

580
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: a sense.

581
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 5: Of solace for Olitz as well as the audience?

582
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Those scenes were so magnificant, magnificant.

583
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: So okay, first of all, shout out to the extraordinary

584
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 6: Ava Duverney because sheed that episode, and it was after

585
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 6: her feature had been at Sundance and she hadn't yet

586
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 6: become like the like Crazy Oscar nominated Banana's successful Mogul

587
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: Empire running Ava DuVernay that she is today. But the

588
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: talent was all there, the generosity was all there, the

589
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 6: fierceness was all there, and she's the exact right person

590
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 6: to have like found that Vermont house, which I then

591
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 6: later directed in A bunch of us directed in, but

592
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 6: she like discovered that house, established that house, put a

593
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 6: helicopter on the show, like just and that was so

594
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 6: funny because Okay, years later, maybe I told her the story.

595
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 6: But years later she directed me in that Apple commercial

596
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 6: with Taraji and Mary Jim and she called me and

597
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 6: she was like, you have like a good side and

598
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: a bad side, right, And I was like what And

599
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: she was like, don't you like prefer to only be

600
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 6: shot from one angle? And I was like, Ava, you

601
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 6: have the wrong like that that is not me, Like

602
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: I don't care who sheould be from the bottom from

603
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 6: the top side. Decided like just tell the story, but

604
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 6: like she was like, no, there was something. There was

605
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 6: something And I was like, I don't know who she's

606
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: confusing me with and then she called me back and

607
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 6: she was like, I know what it was. You were pregnant.

608
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 6: And she was like, so I couldn't show from the

609
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 6: waist down, like we had to do this again, this

610
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 6: love scene of like you and Tony kissing. But I

611
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 6: just remember being like, I can't go past her waist

612
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 6: because she's got this belly. So I was like, yeah,

613
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about that now babies are out,

614
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: and shoot me however you want. But she was so

615
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 6: amazing and that episode was so amazing. And I think

616
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is that Shanda loves about

617
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 6: Vermont that she wrote it, but it is perfect because

618
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 6: does feel like the perfect hideaway, romantic estate, perfect for Olitz.

619
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 6: And I think of them often like being happy. I

620
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: think they're happy in Vermont, you guys. I think they're

621
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 6: making jam. I think they do like I do. I

622
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: think they do like occasional political consulting. I think they

623
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 6: like fly in and consult you know, kind of like

624
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 6: Judy Smith, Like you never know where Judy is. She

625
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 6: just shows uff at a crisis to fix stuff.

626
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: So do that.

627
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 6: I think that, Like he's a former president who like

628
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 6: Obama like sweeps in to do important things in the

629
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 6: world and maybe produces documentaries like the Obamas, and she's

630
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 6: like out there being a fixer. But their home base

631
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 6: is in Vermont. I think that they're that they're still

632
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 6: in love.

633
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: I can't.

634
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: My parents live there and I go there all the time,

635
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: and I can't ever think about First of all, it

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: is it's the best, Like it's amazing, it's so beautiful,

637
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: and it's so like progressive and cool and feels like

638
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: this sort of like utopia.

639
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 6: It's so wonderful, like that's where they should be.

640
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 5: More food. It's a culinary podcast. We've tricked you all.

641
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: Should we ask we ask another question? Should we ask

642
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: one more question?

643
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: All right?

644
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: So Hillary asks, can you please ask Carrie to rank

645
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: her love interest on Scandal from Olivia's perspective and then

646
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: from your own perspective in terms of compatibility. Oh wow,

647
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: So this is a this is like a freaking Jepardy question.

648
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: This is good.

649
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Okay, I don't I'm not going to

650
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 6: rank them as Carrie that just feels yeah. Yeah, So

651
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: I always felt like any guy who showed up to

652
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 6: be one of Olivia's love interests was like doing a

653
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 6: service to the show, and so I'm so appreciative that

654
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: they came in and took their clothes off. And I

655
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 6: mean I but and also such nice guys, right like

656
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 6: Brian wall Hernandez normally such nice, lovely, lovely human beings.

657
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 6: Scott Foley not so much.

658
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: That's public knowledge, yes, yeah.

659
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 6: And then of course Tony Goldban is like my favorite,

660
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 6: one of my favorite human beings on the planet in

661
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 6: the galaxy. He's just the best. And I love Scott.

662
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: I love Scott of course, well this girl.

663
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 5: Loves Scott too.

664
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Who wrote in Mariah Aka at Jake Ballard's bay, hey

665
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: on TikTok asks everyone me wants confirmation that Olivia did

666
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: indeed love Jake to some extent. The Olitz stands keeps

667
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: coming for me. But I always make videos saying Jake

668
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: was the better guy. He always made sure she was

669
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: eating and dancing and other stuff to keep this. But

670
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: she did love Jake like that was her person, her bestie.

671
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Speaker 2: She just wasn't in love with him like she was

672
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Speaker 2: with Fit. Maybe I'm just Delulu, Oh Delulu, I love it.

673
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Speaker 2: But if I am, I'm not the only Delulu Gladiator

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Speaker 2: for o Lake.

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Speaker 5: Thanks besties, thank you.

676
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Speaker 6: And that was a beautiful draaddic reading. I agree with her.

677
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 6: I agree with her. I think that Olivia and Jake

678
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 6: really did love each other. I think she does love him,

679
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 6: And I actually love that about Shonda's writing, that that

680
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 6: you actually can have more than one person in your life, right,

681
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 6: that you can love more than one person, but your

682
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: one final person that you end up with is the

683
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: one final person you end up with, right, Like I

684
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 6: think that Olitz is Olitz, and I do in my

685
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 6: mind and heart believe that they're happy together now. But

686
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: I think that Olake was a real thing, and I

687
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 6: do think that Jake. I think she's right, like, Jake

688
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 6: loved Olivia in ways that were really important, and he

689
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: taught her a lot. They taught each other a lot.

690
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: They really they had a different kind of intimacy that

691
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Speaker 6: I think was really really special, and I love their relationship.

692
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Speaker 6: I think the show would not have been the show

693
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Speaker 6: without Olake. They think in many ways, like you appreciate

694
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Speaker 6: you appreciate Olitz because you know that it was even more.

695
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 6: It was a different kind of love that when beyond Olake,

696
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 6: but Olake helps you understand what Olitz is right, So yeah,

697
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Speaker 6: I agree, And I think also, you know, when I

698
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 6: was talking about these other guys who would come onto

699
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: the show, I also think like the role that Scott

700
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 6: fully played in in like really leaning into the uniqueness

701
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 6: of their love and and understanding what Olitz was but

702
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 6: still holding space for Olake. I don't think there's a

703
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: lot of actors that could have help that space the

704
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: way Scott fully did. Like he's such a he's such

705
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 6: an incredible human being and such an incredible actor, and

706
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 6: and you know had had the fan base around OLiS

707
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 6: that he did, and but Scott. It takes somebody with

708
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 6: Scott's level of like talent and like he's so attractive

709
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: and so likable and so accessible, like you you love him,

710
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 6: like you can't not love him, and that we needed and.

711
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Ask Scott so pro level at it, Like he's made

712
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Speaker 2: a whole I feel like so much of his career

713
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: has been love Tryangle. Yes, Yeah, that's the whole show

714
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: is like him their Speedmen and Felicity. Like he's done

715
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: that for four between those two shows, that's literally fourteen

716
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Speaker 2: years of living in a love trying.

717
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Speaker 6: I think that's a superpower. I think somebody who like

718
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 6: is very very very very loved and very very very

719
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Speaker 6: very hated, and to hold that space of like I'm

720
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Speaker 6: not threatened, I'm I can hold all of that energy

721
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Speaker 6: and just show up every day and be that and

722
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 6: let fans like spin out of control because they love

723
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 6: me so much or hate me so much. Like it

724
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 6: takes a special human being to do that. And I think,

725
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Speaker 6: I just think Scott is He's He's he's the best.

726
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 6: He's the best, right, He's just.

727
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Like and a great director, and he directed us a

728
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Speaker 1: bunch of times.

729
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Speaker 3: On the show.

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Speaker 6: And sure I learned so much from Scott as a director.

731
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Speaker 6: And I would say I learned just as much from

732
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Speaker 6: Scott when he wasn't directing about nothing, because we would

733
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Speaker 6: have a director on set and I would look over

734
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: it at Scott and he would be like, why are

735
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 6: we doing that? And I'm like, what are you talking about?

736
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 6: And He's like, we could be home an hour earlier

737
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Speaker 6: if we put a camera here, in a camera here,

738
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Speaker 6: and a camera here, and I'd be.

739
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Speaker 5: Like, oh, wow, we rehearsing a scene.

740
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Speaker 6: We'd be rehearsing a scene and I'd be like, well,

741
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Speaker 6: I'd be like, my character would stand over here, and

742
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 6: he'd be like, if your character stands over there, Carrie,

743
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 6: we are going to be here for another two hours.

744
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 8: And I'd be like, he's got it, so he.

745
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Speaker 6: But he's But also he wasn't like phoning it in.

746
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 6: He wasn't like, don't stand over there because then we

747
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 6: can't go home. He was like, how can we make

748
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Speaker 6: the scene work.

749
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Speaker 5: And how we be efficient and honor of the scene. Yeah,

750
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Speaker 5: we will be back with more after the break.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, before we move, We're going to hit the

752
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 2: episode really quickly.

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Speaker 5: But I'm going to do g let's do it. I

754
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: know it's going to be that's only gonna be last

755
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 5: five minutes because that's how we do this.

756
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: But wait, thank you, We're gonna do a speed round

757
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Speaker 2: of the last like few questions that fans have asked,

758
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: because I want them to get them in.

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: Okay, let's hear from Frankie and Ruby Ontario.

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Speaker 4: If Olivia could season three, So one piece of advice,

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Speaker 4: what do you think it would be and how do

762
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: you imagine it would have altered the course of season three?

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Speaker 6: That's all I have to say. By one piece of advice,

764
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 6: I think about like Vermont is for the lovers. So

765
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about that episode, So I would say, like,

766
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 6: just trust that it's going to be okay, Like it

767
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 6: feels like the romance trauma feels so overwhelming, but it's

768
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 6: gonna be okay.

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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's good. That's always do it. That's always good advice.

771
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well go and cheat that homegirl, gun cheat that

772
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: ask there's one thing Carrie could change about Olivia?

773
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Speaker 3: What would it be?

774
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: Oh, I wouldn't change a thing about Eliza. Yeah, because yeah,

775
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 6: I love her. I love her messy, awesome journey. Yeah,

776
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 6: I just love her. I guess maybe you know. And

777
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: I think about like Carrie pregnant walking down the hall,

778
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: like I was trying to do the Olivia Pope walk.

779
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: It was more like an Olivia Pope waddle. I remember,

780
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 6: like I remember, I had like tension. I remember I

781
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 6: had to go to like a physical therapist because my

782
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 6: inner thighs were so tense because I was trying to

783
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: keep my walk like on Olivia Pope walk.

784
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 5: Pope's signature walk is not fucking around.

785
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Speaker 6: It's it was a thing. But so I guess I would.

786
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 6: I wouldn't change a thing about her. I really wouldn't.

787
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't I love that. I love that.

788
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: There's one question here, it's such a good no no.

789
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, ash a ka, it's it's Tony Braxton on Twitter

790
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: asks me, first, why is there no receptionist that Olivia

791
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Pope and associates and firing one.

792
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 6: We never trusted anybody enough to.

793
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: Be exactly, yes, agreed all the rest right, We were

794
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: all the rest exactly.

795
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 6: There was no hierarchy. It was very much like all

796
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 6: for one, one for all, So having a receptionist would

797
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: be like somebody working for us. But we were all

798
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 6: working for each other all the time.

799
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Speaker 2: Uh huh, Yeah, I couldn't trust We couldn't trust a receptionist,

800
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: although no one was kind of a receptionist Season one

801
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: and her sister I.

802
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: Got people coffee. Okay.

803
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Second, what do you think Olivia Pope would be up

804
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: to these days, which we've already addressed. She's in Vermont,

805
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: she's Judy smith ing, She's kind of going around consulting.

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00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: Is she maybe also encouraging everyone to vote.

807
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Speaker 6: A hundred person after stealing an election?

808
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Speaker 8: She?

809
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Speaker 6: I do? I think she would. I think part of

810
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 6: what Olivia like, part of the framework of who Olivia

811
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 6: Pope is she really wants people to know that they matter,

812
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: Like she really has so much compassion for people, and

813
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: she's so non judgmental. She really she understands that you

814
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 6: are not who you are on your worst day, that

815
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 6: everybody deserves a second chance, that we all matter, that

816
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 6: we all are important, we're all like equal children of God.

817
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 6: So in that vein like, yes, voting is really important

818
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 6: to her, like she wants people to know that they

819
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: matter and that this democracy only works when we all

820
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Speaker 6: show up. And now, more than ever, like this, we

821
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 6: are at a time in this country where I know

822
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 6: that you might feel like you don't matter. I know

823
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: that you might feel like these systems don't work for you.

824
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: I know that you might feel like no matter what

825
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 6: you do, things stay the same, and the powerful people

826
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Speaker 6: have stuff and the rest of us don't. I get that.

827
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 6: I get those feelings. But the only way it changes

828
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 6: is if we show up in faith and say, like,

829
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Speaker 6: I think I can help make it better. That's what

830
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 6: we need. We need everybody to feel like maybe if

831
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Speaker 6: you show up, you can help make it better, because

832
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 6: it's only going to get better if we all show up,

833
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Speaker 6: and it's not going to happen overnight. It's not going

834
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Speaker 6: to be one president. It's not going to be one

835
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Speaker 6: person who fixes it. Like I keep saying to people,

836
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Speaker 6: each and every one of us, we are the Olivia

837
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Speaker 6: Popes of our lives, of our communities, Like we have

838
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Speaker 6: the power to transform this world. But we have to

839
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Speaker 6: show up and we have to believe that, and we

840
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Speaker 6: can't leave it to one president or it's like all

841
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Speaker 6: the little elections, the mayors and the sheriffs and the judges,

842
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 6: and it's about just showing up and trying. We have

843
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Speaker 6: to try. I feel like that's so opa, right, like

844
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Speaker 6: over a cliff. Yeah, yeah, we have to be there

845
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Speaker 6: for each other.

846
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Speaker 5: Over a cliff, for this place.

847
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is what we're talking about today, which we've

848
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 2: got a QW things that you can easily answer.

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Speaker 5: It's episode three oh.

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00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Two guests Who's Coming to Dinner which aired on October

851
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: tenth in twenty thirteen, and.

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Speaker 1: It was written by Heather Mitchell and directed by Alison

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Speaker 1: Lady Brown You.

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00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: Love Alison Brown, Alison.

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00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: It was guest starring Norm Lewis's Senator Edison Davis, Dan

856
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: w Bailey, Is Noah Elliott.

857
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Kate McGregor Stewart is married and Kristen Carrey as Brooke Foster.

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Speaker 5: Gee, you want to do a synopsis for me?

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Speaker 6: Baby, Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's you do it? You do it?

861
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Speaker 5: Should we do it in heart and sync?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's try that.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ready because Carrie's here are number one person? Ready, one, two, three,

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Speaker 2: go Whie houses plans. We're giving flashbacks to her.

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Speaker 6: Father's dinners and relationship with howk grew. In the end,

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Speaker 6: some shocking secrets are revealed, like.

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Speaker 1: Learned to love a big, big glass of wine and

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Speaker 1: what happened to Jake Ballard.

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Speaker 2: This is where here's the biggest things that we need

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00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: to just talk about very quickly before you go. Your

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00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: looks shift a bunch in this episode. It's crazy, like

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Speaker 2: there's all these flashbacks to you having dinners with your

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Speaker 2: father Pope and g being Haggrid huck in the thing,

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Speaker 2: and you get your bag stolen and and you start

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Speaker 2: to put together to your dad like there was this

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Speaker 2: guy and he helped me, and your dad is like dadada,

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00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: and you were like the guy brought up B six

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Speaker 2: thirteen and your dad is like what, And then you

881
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: take your dad's pen, and you figure out where hawk

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Speaker 2: is from. And you're standing on the corner of Wonderland

883
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: Avenue in front of acne paper and you look at

884
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: the pen that your dad gave you and it says

885
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 2: the same fucking pen. And you put it all together

886
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: and you learn this episode your dad is command and

887
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: that Huck was part of the whole thing.

888
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 5: It's crazy and you it's so amazing. Do you remember

889
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 5: picking these?

890
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: So this was when you wore your hair in like

891
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: a bang with like a curlly.

892
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 5: Can you talk to us this episode? It was so big?

893
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: How you and Linda via Lobos, who I love so much,

894
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: shout out to the greatest hair.

895
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: This is not a hair, got it? Do you remember

896
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: picking these? This hair? And like, how and why?

897
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 6: No?

898
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, it's my favorite Olivia hair.

899
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: I don't I just remember. I mean that we had

900
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 6: so many wigs, remember who was like people would laugh

901
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 6: at how many wigs we would have on our show.

902
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: It was just like end.

903
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: And it was like there were several people wearing wigs.

904
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yes, gosh no, but it's so fun. It's

905
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 6: so fun to see these pictures.

906
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't you love your coats?

907
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: Let me see these, It's we always do Olivia Pope's

908
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: fashion moment.

909
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: These coats are unbelievable.

910
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 6: In this episode, Paolo, Linda was amazing because Linda came

911
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 6: So I met Linda many many years ago. We had

912
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 6: done a bunch of movies together. But her, like sure,

913
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 6: like what I always think is her coolest credit on

914
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 6: her resume is that she did in Living Color with

915
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 6: the Waynes Brothers in the like back in the day

916
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 6: when Jlo.

917
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 7: Was a weekend Yeah, all those crazy wigs right, like

918
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 7: that sketch comedy world where it was like a different

919
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 7: way every five minutes.

920
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 6: And like big bald, awesome character changes through costume and

921
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 6: makeup and wigs. So she's just a master at her craft.

922
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 6: And she did this job, an incredible job of tracking

923
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 6: Olivia through hair. It was like the big one of

924
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 6: the biggest ways that we told story about where Olivia

925
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: was in time and emotionally was with her hair.

926
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: You know.

927
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 6: I mean I remember being in the shower and like

928
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: having that wet Olivia curler, being out on the island

929
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 6: with Jake when we escaped curly hair. People were like, what,

930
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: like she really you know she was?

931
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: She was so awesome and in that run episode. Remember

932
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: the episode when you're running with like a camera in

933
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: front of you and your hair is all like supernatural

934
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: and beautiful.

935
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, it was so messy.

936
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

937
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: Fait, We always do you.

938
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: We do Kerry Washington school of acting on this podcast

939
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: where we talked about who who won? We do Olivia

940
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Pope fashion moments. Okay, this episode really didn't have any

941
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: like big things. We always do Kerry Washington School of

942
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: Acting moments where it's like who won the scenes of this.

943
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: Episode, and you and Papa Pope have the most amazing

944
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: scenes in this episode. It's so great.

945
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: But then my favorite end of the episode, actually, if

946
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: you remember shooting this, Huck slams Olivia Pope up against

947
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: a car and has her jaw like this because he

948
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: finds out that your dad is command and is the

949
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: person that took his whole life away and threw him

950
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: in a hole in all of this, right, like, when

951
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: do you remember shooting that?

952
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 6: Nope?

953
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: Is remember shooting that?

954
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: I remember shooting you know what?

955
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: I remember.

956
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: I remember being really disturbed and upsets that I had

957
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: to do that, that Huck had to do that to

958
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: live because I felt it was it was it wasn't right,

959
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: like if.

960
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: It didn't feel it didn't feel.

961
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: Correct for Huck to react that way and put his

962
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: hands on her. I remember having a problem with that,

963
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, you can't but remember.

964
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 5: The last best part of this episode.

965
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Really is that we learn in these back flashes you're

966
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: having dinner with Papa Pope his house and he's like,

967
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: would you know he's making this like ridiculously amazing steak

968
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: or something, and he's like, would you like wine? You're like,

969
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't drink wine, and of course the whole audience

970
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: is like, Olivia popes like wine and he's like, it's

971
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: because you've never had good wine. And then he pours

972
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: you something that's delicious and we see, which I thought

973
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: was so brilliant, but we see for the first time

974
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: it's like you're acting in this moment, is like it's

975
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: like the Nectar of the Gods has like touched your

976
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: mouth and you on her obsession with red wine and

977
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: we get to see it and that she only likes

978
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: good wine and that that was something that was introduced

979
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: to her by her father, and that that was something

980
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: that didn't used to happen in her life. She didn't

981
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: used to chug goblets of red wine. I mean, it

982
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: was like so fucking hilarious.

983
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 6: Shout out to our scandal writers. I just love that

984
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 6: they meant stuff like that, that we got to that

985
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: we got to build. I love that our show was

986
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: always moving forward but always moving backward. That we as

987
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: we were like you know, progressing plot, we were also

988
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 6: filling in the past all the time. Yes, sort of

989
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 6: the DNA of the show. And I just I love it.

990
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 6: I love that we just were always kind of growing

991
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 6: our roots and our leaves right like constantly with these cameras.

992
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 6: So yeah, so fun.

993
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 3: True, that's true.

994
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 6: I am so appalled at how little I remember, But

995
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 6: it was it was the whirlwind of you know, these

996
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 6: sixteen hour days of I've just it was such a

997
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 6: high volume of material that I was having to metabolize

998
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 6: all the time that it was like in and out,

999
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: in and out, Like it was really I really I

1000
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 6: think about it. I'm like, I feel like when people

1001
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 6: talk about how they don't remember stuff when they channel,

1002
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 6: like you know, like like people who channel ancestors or

1003
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 6: they're like.

1004
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Hypnotized, They're like hypnotized, they're like on a different plane

1005
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: it has been working through me constantly, and just I

1006
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: was like, the special the most lines probably in the

1007
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: history of television, ninetyay pages.

1008
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 6: It's funny because now anytime that I'm on a set

1009
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 6: and somebody's like, ooh, today's a heavy day for you,

1010
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 6: I laugh. I'm like you and you're.

1011
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: Like, this is heavy, kidding me, Yeah.

1012
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 6: It's like kidding me. Or like the other day on

1013
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 6: the show, I'm I'm on a half hour comedy.

1014
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: And I do President's Amazing.

1015
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 6: And my character does these really fun like little monologues

1016
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: on Instagram. And the other day we had an actor

1017
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 6: who had we had an emergency on set and so

1018
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 6: they were like, we had to pivot, we had to

1019
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 6: shoot something else, and they were like, do you think

1020
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 6: you could memorize the monologues? And I turned to Sherry,

1021
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 6: who's my makeup bars on and it was also my

1022
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 6: makeup bars on piano, and I was like, Sherry, do

1023
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 6: you think I can memorize the monologues? And She's like,

1024
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 6: yeahtect me like it's.

1025
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: So it's say yeah, but you also you have to

1026
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: let that stuff go. It has to go in and

1027
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: out or else you don't have the bandwidth for something new, right, Like,

1028
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I think Katie is the only actor I know that

1029
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: can recite a soliloquy from a freaking placed like ten

1030
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: years ago.

1031
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Working early on I've still got but I can't tell

1032
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: you like and everything else is put into.

1033
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 5: The short term bad it goes.

1034
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 6: I think part of that too is also being a

1035
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 6: mom and a wife, right, is that like I wasn't

1036
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 6: at a certain point, I didn't have the luxury like

1037
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 6: in college where you would remember stuff and you'd you'd

1038
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 6: live with it and you'd sleep with it, and you'd

1039
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 6: go home and think, I remember when I did Last

1040
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: King of Scotland, Like I was that character all the time.

1041
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 6: I was like in my hotel like I was heard

1042
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 6: like all the.

1043
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Time, what a nightmare.

1044
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 6: But I couldn't Like I couldn't do that on Scandal.

1045
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 6: I didn't like a toddler. I wasn't gonna go home

1046
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 6: and be like, it's my name on that door, like

1047
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 6: you got to let that go and like you know,

1048
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 6: like can you imagine namdu space my name on that.

1049
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: Door handles there's people, let's go.

1050
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 6: Let's go. Solid food starts this week.

1051
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think we forgot anything. G did

1052
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: we forget anything before.

1053
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: I think we got and then you guys next listeners.

1054
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 5: Episode three oh three, Missus.

1055
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Smith goes to Washington. I don't remember what the hell

1056
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: that is or we're talking about.

1057
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh, she's the one that puts makes a bomb and

1058
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: straps it on her body.

1059
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: Carry Do you remember that?

1060
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember all the lasers and the right.

1061
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

1062
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 6: Really intense episode.

1063
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1064
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 5: Me and Carrie thank you so much for so much.

1065
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: Person to come and have do audience participation.

1066
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 5: It was the best having you. Gladiator sending question is

1067
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 5: the greatest.

1068
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: And someday when you rewatch, when you're really think you're

1069
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: gonna do it, when you're like eighty.

1070
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: We should do it all together. We should have like

1071
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: a hang and watch like a bunch of episodes together.

1072
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 5: Fun Carrie, because you didn't really remember.

1073
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: Any like I don't remember any of it either, and

1074
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: I had nothing con bear to you. But Quinn comes

1075
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: in there, I'm like, what ye.

1076
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: What am I doing?

1077
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Like we just got to the scene where Honk and

1078
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: Quinn like hook up for the first time, and I

1079
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: didn't know that was coming.

1080
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 5: Did you hear?

1081
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: No at all?

1082
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 5: No idea? What's happening and it's so fun.

1083
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 6: Can we also, I like, I know we keep saying it,

1084
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 6: but it's so overdue, Like I miss you guys. We

1085
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 6: need to get to get there.

1086
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, yo, we need and it doesn't need

1087
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: you know, we should have to have a dinner.

1088
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1089
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 6: I think we need to have like an east coast

1090
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 6: and a west coast because I know that's where I

1091
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: not everybody's here and not everybody's there, So maybe we

1092
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 6: just need to do like we're going to do an

1093
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 6: eaper coast and a west coast and west there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1094
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 6: I love that.

1095
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: Everybody get Carrie's book. Everybody watching? Yeah, so everybody rewatch

1096
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: Scandal on Hulu. What else am I missing? Any of

1097
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 2: the plugs?

1098
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: Noo oh, that's it.

1099
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: We had Carrie Washington on. Thank you, carry love you.

1100
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 5: Thank you, love you so much. You're the greatest orlest

1101
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: my may.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.

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Speaker 2: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 2: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can

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Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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Speaker 2: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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