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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey

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Speaker 1: there are folks, a hostage situation in Soho, a French

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Speaker 1: face shove, a devil is on the loves of the Ozarks,

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Speaker 1: and Sidney Sweeney is selling us sweet bathwater for eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: Those were just some of the stories that kept us

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Speaker 1: talking after our morning run this week. Hey there, folks,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ on this

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Speaker 1: May thirty first, on this Saturday Robe. Some of these stories,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say we keep arguing about, but

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Speaker 1: we go at it about some of this stuff. We're

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Speaker 1: not on the same page.

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Speaker 2: We don't always agree with how we think things should

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Speaker 2: go or how people reacted. So it's fun to have

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Speaker 2: a conversation after the fact, and maybe y'all can get

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Speaker 2: into your own discussions about what you think about some

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Speaker 2: of the big stories of the week. And Monday Woo.

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Speaker 2: It started out with a bang, with an unthinkable story

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Speaker 2: that happened right here in Soho in Manhattan. And do most.

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Speaker 1: Folks around the country know where Soho is in? You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe not so common for us, but it's yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. It's it's lower Manhattan it's south

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Speaker 2: of Houston Street, thus the name Soho. So it's a

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Speaker 2: very bougie part of the city. There's a lot of shopping,

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Speaker 2: a lot of cute restaurants, a lot of tourists. When

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Speaker 2: if you can spot a celebrity, a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: go to Soho because that's where a lot of that's

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Speaker 2: wet a listers and you know, of course us like,

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Speaker 2: because we're right, like to have a drink or have

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Speaker 2: a bite, an overpriced bite somewhere. So, yes, this is

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Speaker 2: a very wealthy and swanky part of the city. It's

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Speaker 2: not a place where you would ever imagine the story

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Speaker 2: that's being told could happen in a eight bedroom luxury

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Speaker 2: townhouse in Soho on Prince Spring.

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Speaker 1: But is that more so the part of the story

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Speaker 1: all right too. Allegedly, two guys take another guy hostage

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Speaker 1: because they want his bitcoin password and they essentially want

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Speaker 1: to rob him. Yes, so they hold him hostage for

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Speaker 1: weeks and the according to police, torture this guy put

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Speaker 1: him through all kinds of hell. He finally gets away,

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Speaker 1: runs down the street, he finds a traffic cop and

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Speaker 1: here we are. But in this story. Would this be

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Speaker 1: as big of a deal if it wasn't in Soho

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Speaker 2: York, it would still be a big deal. But it's

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Speaker 2: a bigger deal when you think about, yes, who did

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Speaker 2: it and where they were doing it. I have to

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Speaker 2: tell you I saw the pictures. I lived on that

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Speaker 2: and I did not have a swinky eight bedroom townhouse.

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Speaker 1: The five bedroom places it was nice.

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Speaker 2: I just want to point that out. This was not

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Speaker 2: the same. But I lived on that same street.

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Speaker 1: But your rooftop deck was amazing.

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Speaker 2: However, I did not have a rooftop.

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Speaker 1: The grill I couldn't believe. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: I had a massive roach infestation in that apartment, to

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Speaker 1: Clear here, folks, I'm just joking. She didn't have all.

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Speaker 2: But no, it actually shocked me even more because I thought,

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Speaker 2: and to think what police say happened inside of it,

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Speaker 2: when you get these details because this alleged victim who

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Speaker 2: apparently now they're saying, now these other two men was

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Speaker 2: invited to the home. They were all crypto investors, they

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Speaker 2: all had lots of money. He was twenty eight years old,

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Speaker 2: being held without bail, beat him, drugged him, used electric shock,

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Speaker 2: were actually going to ultimately kill him. And so he

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Speaker 2: managed to escape because he finally, after seventeen days, told

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Speaker 2: these two men, okay, okay, I'll give you my bitcoin password.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy to think that that all happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, desperate times. What I'm saying is, there's something

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Speaker 1: this story? There's got to be something I am missing

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Speaker 1: because if someone is that, it's not just a regular theft.

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Speaker 1: how desperate you have to be to do this. How

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing that was so interesting to

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Speaker 2: heinous crimes and took away their passports because he said specifically,

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Speaker 2: not be found. They have private planes. These are men

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Speaker 2: why were they so desperate to get more money? We

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Speaker 2: don't know those details, they have not been provided, but

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Speaker 2: say they found multiple polaroid pictures of the victim with

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Speaker 2: a gun to his head smoking a crack pipe because

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Speaker 2: they put it in his mouth. They found torture devices

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Speaker 2: police break in silence of the lambs find this, you know,

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Speaker 2: serial killer with all of his That's what it sounded

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Speaker 1: This sounds like desperation to me. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: more about what in the world was going on. This

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Speaker 1: is it's just all too bizarre. I'm throwing soho.

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Speaker 2: And there's another quick twist because they're trying to tie

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams and his police detective to this too, because

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Speaker 2: apparently two off duty police officers or who work for

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Speaker 2: they're trying to figure out they don't think that they

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Speaker 2: they were even supposed to be moonlighting basically as private

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Speaker 2: security for these two crypto investors. So there are many

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Speaker 1: All right. That kept folks talking. Another one that kept

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that for one second. I don't think

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Speaker 2: with one another. There were clearly having an argument. And look,

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Speaker 2: I get mccrone's situation or dilemma, because if he said

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Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if it were reversed, imagine if we

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Speaker 2: be having a very different conversation.

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Speaker 1: You have to ask, is it ever acceptable for a

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Speaker 2: No? I don't think there can be a double standard

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Speaker 2: when it comes to this. I don't think that anyone

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Speaker 2: You'd think they'd know better. This is not acceptable behavior.

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Speaker 2: So how does he explain what his wife did other

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Speaker 2: she shoved me, she was pissed off at me, we

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's what I mean if they were on

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Speaker 1: Okay again, we're taking them at their word that this

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Speaker 2: Okay, So don't say you were joking around and you

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Speaker 2: That's just simply not true anyway.

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Speaker 1: Anything if you don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Exactly just say it's a private matter, and that's how

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure hindsight's twenty twenty, and maybe he wishes

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Speaker 2: to not tell a lie. I mean, that's really what

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Speaker 1: what we saw. She shoved him. You could go as

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Speaker 2: Agreed, He jerked back fully.

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Speaker 2: And he looked shocked by it. Oh, he had a

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Speaker 2: sure at that point that whoopsie, that all just got

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Speaker 1: Than that, or maybe we're just seeing get wrong. I

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Speaker 1: will take them at their words, but they say, over

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Speaker 1: in France, did you see all that? Over in France

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Speaker 1: is not as big of a deal it is other places,

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Speaker 1: because the French have a long history at least the

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Speaker 1: press does leaving people alone public figures in their private manners,

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Speaker 1: no matter how scandalous. Sometimes it might be well.

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Speaker 2: And just to point out for those who don't know,

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Speaker 2: be living under a rock perhaps not to know that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: their love story in our country I don't think would

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Speaker 2: his now wife, Brigitte. He was fifteen when she was

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Speaker 2: thirty nine, She was married with children, She was his

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Speaker 1: That's the headline that is actually accurate. Sidney Sweeney is

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