1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: It's the son of which podcast. I'm your host Claude 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Harmon solo episode of the pod this week. I just 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: got back. I was over at the LPGA CME Globe 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: there kind of tour championship season ending for the LPGA Tour. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I was over there with the Marina Alex. I saw 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Hull and I wanted to touch on some stuff. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Charlie said last week she was in the last group 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: last week with Nellye Korda, had a chance to win, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: didn't get it done. Nelly Quorda won again. I mean, 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: what an unbelievable year, and no joke. I got to 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: sit and watch Nelly Quorda hit golf balls for the 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: last three days and if she's hitting golf balls on 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: the driving range, I'm gonna sit and just I mean, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: it's like golf porn. I mean, the golf swing's just 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: so good. You know the work she's done with Jamie Mulligan. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: But I just when you watch Nellie's golf swing, I mean, 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: she is a player that I will stop and watch 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: hit golf balls. It's that good. So she is a 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: privilege to watch. But it was Charlie Hall that made 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: some comments about slow play, which is a serious issue 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: on every single tour. It's taking you know, over five 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: and a half hours to play golf in a tournament, 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: which is just it's just ridiculous, and slow play is 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: nothing new, right, And the thing is, this is just 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, but if the tours wanted to fix this, 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: they could fix it, right, they could fix slow play, 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like they want to fix it. 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: So it was Charlie Hall that said, what was her quote, 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: She said, I'm pretty ruthless. If you have three bad 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: times in a year, you lose your card. She's like, 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: that would stop, so pay immediately. You know what, She's 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right now. They're never going to do that. 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: That might be a little bit extreme. The powers that 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: be are never going to do that, but historically what 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: they've done in the past is if you get a 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: certain amount of bad times and you get fined and 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Again solely my opinion, but I don't 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: think the finds work. I mean certainly not on the 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: PGA tour. Those guys make so much money. If you're 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: a big star, and there are some big stars that 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: you know, everybody knows theyre slower The thing about slow 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: play that drives me crazy, and I think drives everybody 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: crazy that's involved, certainly at the professional level, is everybody 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: on tour PGA Tour, Champions Tour, dp World Tour, LPGA Live, 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: everybody that plays on those tours, everybody associated with those tours, 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: everybody involved with those tours knows exactly who the slow 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: players are. Every player knows who the slow players are. 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: Every caddy knows who the slow players are. Every rules 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: official knows who the slow players are. Every tour commissioner 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: knows who the slow players are. All the media know 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: who they are. Everybody in the game knows who the 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: slow players are. And the players that play fast don't 53 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: affect the people that play slow because they just keep 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: playing slow. But slow play dramatically affects fast players. I 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: happen to work for two of the fastest players in 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: the game, Dustin Johnson and Brooks kept goa. They are fast, right, 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: DJ maybe gets a little bit slower on the greens, 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: But you know, the camera guys that you talk to 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: from CBS or NBC or ESPN. If DJ's in the 60 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: group and he's last to hit, they're kind of standing 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: behind two of the players. They can't get the camera 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: behind DJ fast enough because he's already gonna pull the trigger. 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: So when fast players are paired with slow players, and 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: everyone knows who the slow players are, right, I mean, 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: there will be players that you get paired with and 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: you'll just go, oh man, we're gonna be on the 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: clock NonStop. And that's the thing, right, So they tie 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: the players. They have a certain amount of time. I 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: think it's around forty seconds to hit your shot. There's 70 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: some different rules if it's on a par three, if 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: you're third to play, you're out of position, all that, 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: but generally it's about forty seconds. And I think most 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: of the time they'll give the guys up to a minute. 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: So you've get forty seconds to hit a shot right 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: on a golf course, competitive around the golf So what 76 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do right now, okay, is I got my phone. 77 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to start my stopwatch. I am not going 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: to say anything, and I am going to stop when 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: we get to forty seconds. Okay, three, two, one go. 80 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: So that was forty seconds. And I did that to 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: prove a point, right, that should have seen like a 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: really long time of just dead air that's forty seconds. 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: That's how much time you've got to hit a golf ball. 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: So if you can't hit a golf ball in forty seconds, 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: my question is, what the hell are you doing? Like, 86 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: what is taking so long? And I think one of 87 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: the things that we're starting to see, and I think 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why slow play is such an 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: issue is you go watch junior golf, you go watch 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: AJJA golf, you go watch high school golf, you go 91 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: watch college golf. It's like watching a glad. I mean, 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: they are playing so slow. We have a college tournament 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: at my club, the Floridian every year of the vast 94 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Bar Collegiate Invitational. They can't finish, like, they can't finish, 95 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: they run out of daylight. I think it took one 96 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: of the final groups last week on the LPG almost 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: five hours forty seconds. They finished in the dark. Now 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the quarter had to finish in the dark on Saturday night. 99 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: You couldn't even see the flag because they're running out 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: of daylight because they can't finish faster. So everyone knows 101 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: they've got X amount of time, right, And what happens 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: is the slow players will just do their own thing 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: until the group gets put on the clock, right, and 104 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: as soon as the rules officials come out and say, okay, 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: you guys are on the clock, the fast players all 106 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: look at them and say, you know this isn't me, 107 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: and the rules officials, the tour officials will go, yeah, no, 108 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: we know it's not you. But we've got to put 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: the whole group on so they know who's the slow player, 110 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: they know who's the fast player. So what ends up 111 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: happening is once you get on the clock, you don't 112 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: want to get a bad time. The slow players speed 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: up and they start moving really really fast. And then 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: if you're not a slow player and you get out 115 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: of position and you need to take you know, time 116 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: to get yardage yourself, I've got no problem if you 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: need a little extra time. If you're in the rough right, 118 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: if you're out of position, off the tee, if you're 119 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: out of position and you now have a shot to 120 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: where you're not in a fair way, it's tough to 121 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: get a yardage. It's going to take some creativity. You're 122 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: going to have to try and you know, think on 123 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: the fly. I get that that can sometimes take a 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: long time. But if you're standing in the middle of 125 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: the fairway shouldn't take you two minutes to hit one. 126 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: And so what we're starting to see is the players 127 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: on TV that everybody is watching, right, junior golfers, high 128 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: school golfers, college golfers. They want to emulate the best 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: players in the world, right, they want to emulate everything 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: about them, their golf swings, their techniques, their routines, all 131 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: of it. But what's happening is junior golf, the pace 132 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: of play is just atrocious. Like it's criminal how bad 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: it is. Right, college golf, I mean, it's brutal, how 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: slow it is. I think the coaches in college golf 135 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: are basically now de facto caddies. Right, it's an individual sport. 136 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: They're walking around with their players, they're getting yardage, they're 137 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: looking at the yardage book. So at the elite Division 138 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: one college golf, in all the big programs, the coaches 139 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: are basically caddies. Right, They're getting the yardage, they're talking 140 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: strategy and stuff like that. But that process is taken forever. 141 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: The aim pointin from two feet is taken forever. Listen, 142 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm not bashion on ame point. Right. I think there's 143 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: a simple solution to this, right, slow players kind of 144 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: fall into two categories. There'll be slow players that you know, 145 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: do a bunch of regrips, that do a bunch of waggles. 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we know who those players are, right once 147 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: they get over the golf ball, it just takes them 148 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: forever to hit it. We know who those players are. 149 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: But what really slowing play is it's like nobody is 150 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: ready to hit their shut So if you're the first 151 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: person to hit, you're gonna get your information to go. 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: So if you're the first person to hit and you're 153 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: in a group of three, that means there's two other 154 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: players that while you're getting your yardages, while you're getting 155 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: all of your information, you and your caddy. We're talking 156 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: about tour golf now, it's like, what are you doing. 157 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: You should be getting your yardage, looking at the shot, 158 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: looking at the wins, so that when the player hits 159 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and it's your turn to hit, you would think that 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: you'd just be ready to go. But it's almost like 161 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: I joke about it all the time, but it's almost like, 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: and this happens a lot in junior golf and in 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: high school golf and in college golf. It's like, when 164 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: it's your turn, to play. When it's your turn to pot, 165 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: when it's your turn to hit your t shot, when 166 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: it's your turn to hit your iron shot or whatever. Right, 167 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: it's almost like players turn into figure skaters. You know 168 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: that scene in the Olympics a figure skater where they 169 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: announce the figure skater who's next up, and they kind 170 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: of skate up, and they kind of skate around and 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: they skate into the middle of the rink. They throw 172 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: their arms up in the air and stuff like that, 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: and then they get into their pose and then they 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: go into their routine. And I watched this, it's like, Okay, 175 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: you're second in the group to hit. The player who's 176 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: hitting first, it's like they're not doing anything. It's like 177 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: they're not getting the yardage. It's like they're not looking 178 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: at the wind, they're not looking at the lie. They 179 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: have no idea what club they hit. So then as 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: soon as that person hit, it's like, Okay, all of 181 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, now I'm on stage and I've got to 182 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: go through this elaborate routine. You couldn't be doing all that, 183 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: not distracting the other player and stuff, but you can. 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: You'd be getting all of your yardages. You could be 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: getting all of your data, gathering information and where the 186 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: wind is, where the lie is, where the pin is. 187 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: All of that. You can be doing that why somebody 188 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: else is hitting. Be ready to go when it's your 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: turn putting, I mean the putting green. How long does 190 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: it take to putt these days? It just takes forever. 191 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: And I played golf on Sunday for the first time 192 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: in about a year and a half. Right, I played 193 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: an eighteen hole round of golf, and one of the 194 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: guys that I was playing with said, man, you play 195 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: really really fast. And I'm like, I don't really think 196 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: I play fast. I just kind of get up, look 197 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: at the shot, and hit it right. I mean I 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: try and not stand over it. I try and not 199 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts in my head. And I 200 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: think the longer you stand over a shot right, the 201 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: more waggles you take. I just I don't see golfers 202 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: taking more time, and that being about positive things, I 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: think the longer you stand there, in my experience, what 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: you see is players in their head, they're doubting that 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: their decision, they're not comfortable, they don't know what they're 206 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: trying to do, and so it just takes them forever 207 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: to hit it right. And I think if you can 208 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: just kind of be ready to go. I mean, we 209 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: walked to pro am today and you know, Marina Alex 210 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Why teach on the Ladies Tour and four amateurs right, 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: and we see this across the board. How long it 212 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: takes golfers to hit shots, How long it takes them 213 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: to pull the club, to go through their routine, to 214 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: go through their practice swings, to figure out where they're 215 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to It just takes forever. And I just don't 216 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: think that is helping golfers score better. I think the 217 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: longer you're standing there, the more time you take, you're 218 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: just creating more and more doubt. And I think what 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: players are doing, and when I ask players, this is 220 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: the response I get. I think a lot of players 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: that are slow are trying to make sure that they 222 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: don't leave any stone unturned in their preparation to hit 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: the shot right. They're going to try and take in 224 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: as much information is possible so that they don't hit 225 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: a bad shot, so that they don't mess it up. 226 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: And when I ask players, what are you doing? I 227 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: mean I will I film routines a lot, especially on 228 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: the putting Green. I will film players' routines in practice 229 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: and say, okay, do you realize you just took on 230 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: a fifteen foot pot. I'll say, okay, let's imagine your 231 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: first to play, right, You're first to play, and you're 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: gonna come up and mark it, okay. And what I'll 233 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: do is I'll film it and time it from the 234 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: time they mark the ball and they go into their 235 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of information gathering phase. And you'll sometimes show players 236 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: you realize you took almost two minutes to hit a 237 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: fifteen foot pot. And so when they watch it back 238 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: and you film it, you watch it back and you 239 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: look at all the looks. I mean, that's another thing 240 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: that I talk to players about, and an effort to 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: try and get them to be more decisive, but an 242 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: effort to try and get them to play faster is 243 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: I'll film their routine and say, okay, hey, you just 244 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: took four looks. You just took five practice strokes. What 245 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: are the looks for? And what are the practice strucks for? 246 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: And invariably people can't give you an answer, but when 247 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: they do give you an answer, they're like, listen, you know, 248 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I go through my 249 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: process make sure I go through my routine, make sure 250 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I go through all of that, and all of that 251 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: is so that you don't make a bad pot hit 252 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: a bad shot. But shouldn't the process and the thought 253 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: process be about, Okay, what am I going to do 254 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: here to hit a good shot? Right? What do I 255 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: need to do to focus in here on hitting a really, 256 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: really good shot? And I think if you can focus 257 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: on trying to hit a good shot as opposed to 258 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: trying to not hit a bad shot, the mindset changes 259 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: and the way that you are going to go about 260 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: your shot would be much much faster. So I'm timing 261 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: players you know in practice now, junior golfers, high school golfers, 262 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: college golfers, even you know players that are trying to 263 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: play years ago. I've had them on the pod. He's 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: a friend, Trevor Immlman. When Trevor and I work together 265 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: back in the day on the European Tour, Trevor was slow. Listen, Trevor, 266 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, I got no problem saying Trevor slow. Trevor 267 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: knows he's slow. Trevor is meticulous, which is another way 268 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: of saying slow. Right, But Trevor got a bunch of 269 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: slow play bad times like first year, second year out 270 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: on European Tour, we were in Sweden. You got another 271 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: bad time, so he was gonna have to pay a fine. 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: And the fines accumulate, so the more fines you get. 273 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Once you get a certain amount of bad times, you 274 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: get a fine, and then if you get another bad 275 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: time in that year, I think the fine doubles trip. 276 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: But if you continue to get bad times for slow play, 277 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: the finds escalate. And Trevor was about to get popped 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: for a pretty big number. I mean it was it 279 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: was five figures, right, And he was a rookie and stuff, 280 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: and so I actually the old kind of legend on 281 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: the European Tour, John Paramore, the head rules official, just 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: one of the coolest people you could ever meet. I 283 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: mean he was just a prince of a guy, I 284 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: mean a gentleman. I actually said to John, I said, listen, 285 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: we've got to try and fix this with Trevor. And 286 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: so in one of the practice I had John Paramore 287 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: come out and ride around with us for nine holes 288 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: and time Trevor. And when Trevor got out of time 289 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: or went over is a lot of time, he was like, 290 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: you're out of time, and I think it really kind 291 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: of helped Trevor see how to maybe streamline his routine. 292 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is you're trying to 293 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: get and we're not talking about tour golfers, right. I 294 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: mean sometimes when you go out on a golf course 295 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: and you're trying to get around a golf course, drive 296 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: around a golf course. I do that sometimes just to 297 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: go out and kind of take a look at the 298 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: golf course, and you'll get behind a group. I'm not playing, 299 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm just riding around taking a look at We just 300 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: redid all our greens at the Floridian, did a couple 301 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: of redesigns some of the holes. So I did this 302 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: the other day. I wanted to go out our sixth 303 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: law re redesigned it. Wanted to go out and take 304 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: a look, and went out, drove around. I was pulling 305 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: up to the sixth hole and there was a group 306 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: before on the team. These were all like mid handicappers, right, 307 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, just average recreational, everyday golfers, right, And so 308 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to get around them and I had 309 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: to wait for them to tee off. Four of them. 310 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: The amount of time it took for four people to 311 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: tee off was a joke, Like it took forever to 312 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: have four people stand up and make golf swings in 313 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: hit a golf ball, and I just was blown away 314 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: at how long it took. And I don't think finds 315 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: are the answers. I really really don't. There was a 316 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: player who plays on the PGA Tour and is a 317 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: human rain delay. It's a glacier. That's how slow he is. 318 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Everybody knows he's slow. Nobody wants to get paired with 319 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: the He won a tournament, made a poor on the 320 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: last hole, was on TV, and the last four or 321 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: five holes the back nine was just a joke. I 322 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: mean I think there were almost a hole and a 323 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: half two holes behind. This player made a great up 324 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: and down on the eighteenth hole to end up winning 325 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: by one. You wanted how to stop slow play. The 326 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: rules official walks up and goes, oh, and by the way, 327 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: you didn't win, We've docked you a stroke penalty. You're 328 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: going back to the eighteenth hole. You're now in a 329 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: playoff because of slow play. That would fix it. Finding 330 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: somebody fifty grand that's just made three million, four million, 331 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: two and a half million. It just doesn't work right. 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. It might work early on, like I said, 333 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the story I told about Trevor Immlman for rookies, but 334 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: the tour players and listen, there are some superstar household 335 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: names on all of the tours that are slow that 336 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: everybody knows slow. And then the other thing I think 337 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: that would change things is there's been zero transparency from 338 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: certainly from the PGA to there's a list of players 339 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: how much they're paying in slow play finds, how many 340 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: bad times they're getting, but none of that information ever 341 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: gets released, right, it's all kept in house. I think 342 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: if the fans knew how much certain players were getting fined, right, 343 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: how much they were paying over the course of the 344 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: year in slow play finds, I think the player's persona 345 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: might be different right in the public's eyes and the fans' eyes, 346 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: in the media's eyes, and I think maybe that would 347 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: somewhat be a catalyst to where you didn't want your 348 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: public image. I mean, listen, we all know who the 349 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: slow players are by the eye test, right by the 350 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: players in the group that they play with, if you're 351 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: following that, like, we know who those are. But if 352 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: there was a master list, and you could look at 353 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, like every year, like the most penalized team 354 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right, you know who that is, right? 355 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: You know who the most penalized team in the NFL is. 356 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: I think if the tours would list slow play fines, 357 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: how many bad times where the public could go and 358 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: take a look at it. I think it would change 359 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: the way that the slow players played, I really do. 360 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I think it would force them to kind of maybe 361 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: say listen, I don't want to have this image, but 362 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: I just don't think finds work. And I've talked to 363 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: a couple of rules officials that have said, listen, we 364 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: don't want to give a player a stroke penalty that 365 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: could affect their livelihood. Right, So you could give someone 366 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a slow pay penalty one stroke and they end up 367 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: missing the cut and then they don't have an opportunity 368 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: to make money that week. I get that argument, and 369 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I unders stand it. I don't agree with it because 370 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: I think that is just perpetuating the myth. And then 371 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: when they do find players, when they do give players 372 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: penalty strokes, it's never a player of any significance, Right, 373 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: It's never a superstar that is slow. It's always someone 374 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: that's at the back of the field, maybe an amateur, 375 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: maybe a qualifier and stuff, but it's never a superstar 376 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: that everybody knows is slow, right, that just doesn't happen. 377 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: So I just I think everybody in the game knows 378 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: its slow play is a problem. But I just question 379 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: if the powers that be really want to fix it 380 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: because every year we talk about it, every year they 381 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: say they're going to change it. And what it's doing. 382 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: It trickles down everything in the professional game, trickles down 383 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: to the average golfer, from the clothes that they wear, 384 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: from the mannerisms, from the swings, from the waggles to 385 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: the shoes to the potter. Right, everybody's trying to and 386 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you'll the best players in the world. And one of 387 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: the really cool things about golf unlike professional football. Yeah, 388 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: you can go to a football game and wear a jersey, right, 389 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: and pretend like you're a part of the team, and 390 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: that's how you're showing your fandom. But in golf, you 391 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: can buy all of the equipment that your favorite player plays. 392 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: You can buy his driver, the same shaft with the 393 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: same grip. Do that with every club in the bag. 394 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: You could get the same wedges, you get the same 395 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: stamps on the wedges, you get the same putter, same 396 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: grip on the putting right. You can emulate that, and 397 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: you can buy all that. Like nobody's buying shoulder pads 398 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: and all the stuff that you would need helmets to 399 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. No one's buying that stuff, right, 400 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: So everyone is trying to emulate what PJ door player 401 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: is doing, especially junior golfers, college golfers, high school golfers 402 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like, they're definitely trying to emulate it. And 403 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: so a lot of times you watch enough golf on 404 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: TV and you see how many looks these guys are taken, 405 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and how elaborate some of the routines, I mean, some 406 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: of the routines on the putting greens are I mean, 407 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: they're just so much going on, so many reads, taking 408 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: so much time, so many looks, And so that is 409 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: trickling down to junior golf. That is trickling down to 410 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: high school golf. It's trickling down to college golf, and 411 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: those junior golf, high level junior golf at the AJGA level, 412 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: high school golf, high level high school golf, college golf, 413 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: Big Division I college program to joke how slow it is. 414 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the rounds just take forever, So be ready 415 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: to hit when it's your turn. I understand that there 416 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: are great rules in golf, and I understand that there's 417 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: history and tradition and all of that stuff. But as 418 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: we come to the end of twenty twenty four, can 419 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: we just play ready golf? Right? Can we just play 420 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: ready golf? If you're ready to hit and you're not 421 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: in the line of sight of your other player, you're 422 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: not going to affect their shot, and you're ready to go, 423 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: pull the train and hit it, hit it. You don't 424 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: need to wait. In tournaments, they have to wait, right. 425 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: In tournaments, by the rules, they have to wait. But 426 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: if you're not in a tournament, you're just playing at home, 427 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: say to your playing partners, hey, guys, any chance we 428 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: can play ready golf today? If you're ready to go, peggett, 429 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: send it, hit it, go right. If you're not gonna 430 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: get in somebody else's way, right, if you're on the 431 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: putting green, if someone's got a forty footer and you've 432 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: knocked it in there fifteen feet and you're not in 433 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: their line, and you're not gonna be in their through 434 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: line and they're taking a bunch of time and stuff, 435 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: and you're ready to go. Say hey, I'm ready to go. 436 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I go ahead and putt right? 437 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Play ready golf, be ready to go. When it's your turn, 438 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: take your practice swings and do all of the drills 439 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: and the mimics and all that stuff. Do all that 440 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: stuff while the other guys are hitting, and you can 441 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: get out of the other player's line of sight right, 442 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: you can get out of that. I think sometimes people 443 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: don't want to do that because they're like, I don't 444 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: want to mess them up. But you can make your 445 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: practice swings right so that way as soon as the 446 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: other player has hit their shot, so you've done it 447 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fairway, you're the longest right. 448 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: You're playing a group of three. By the time the 449 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: other two people have hit, you should be already walking 450 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: into it and be ready to go because you've had 451 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: ample time to get the club, get the yardage, figure 452 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: out the lie, figure out the wind, figure out where 453 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: you're trying to land it. You've got ample time to 454 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: do that. But on the PGA Tour you've got forty 455 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: seconds to do that, and so time yourself, go out, 456 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: put your phone in your pocket, hit the stop watch, 457 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: put it in your back pocket and say, all right, 458 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and hit the shot in under forty seconds. 459 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Put a timer on. We're starting to do that a 460 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: lot with our juniors. We're putting them in drills and 461 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: in situations where there's time constraint to where they can't 462 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: take a lot of time, so they have to think 463 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: clear and they have to make better decisions. But I 464 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: like what Charlie Hall said, love it. It's never gonna happen. 465 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little too much, but it's not getting 466 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: any better. I actually think it's getting worse. I think 467 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: slow play is getting worse year on year. It's getting 468 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: worse at the competitive level. Without a doubt, at the 469 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: elite competitive level, slow play is a massive, massive issue. 470 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: It just is. And I just think that if everybody 471 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: would be ready to go focus on hitting good shots, 472 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: do all of your information gathering before your playing partners hit, 473 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and then have a specific routine that you stick with, right, 474 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, do you need five six practice swings? I 475 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: mean I watched the guy today on the golf course, 476 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: a twenty five handicapper off on a tea box. The 477 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: guy made six practice swings and then backed off and 478 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: then got back in and made two more. You're like, dude, 479 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And then do you think the 480 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: shot was good? Rarely do I see a player take 481 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of time. We see this at the 482 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Elite Tour level because obviously they're the best players in 483 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: the world world. So some of the slowest players in 484 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: the game are also some of the best players in 485 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the game. Right when they're slow, they hit good shots. Rarely, 486 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: if ever, do I see someone take an eternity in 487 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: their information gathering and then all the waggles and the 488 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: practice swings. Rarely do I see a player hit a 489 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: good shot and in my head, I'm like, you could 490 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: have gotten up there, not made a practice swing, had 491 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: one waggle, took a look at the target, and hit 492 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: the exact same shitty golf shot and done it in 493 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: under forty seconds, done it under twenty seconds. So next 494 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: time you go out to play, think about your routine. 495 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: See if you can maybe scale back your routine and 496 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: work on on the driving range and say, all right, 497 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: let me tie myself and see if I can get 498 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: my routine. You know, all the practice swings, all the 499 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 1: drill feels, everything that I need to do to hit 500 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the golf ball. Give yourself the tour mark, start it 501 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: a minute, and then see if you can get it 502 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: down to forty seconds. Right, So time yourself. There's timers 503 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: on everybody's phones. Time it. See if you can hit one. 504 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Go through your full routine and under a minute, and 505 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: then start pairing it down and say, all right, let 506 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: me see if I can get it to fifty. And 507 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: then let's see if I can get it to forty. 508 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, 509 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: you might find that you play better because you're gonna 510 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: have to think faster, and you're gonna have to think less, 511 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to rely a little bit more 512 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: on being an athlete and instinct and things like that. 513 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: But I take my hat off to Charlie for having 514 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the guts to put that out there. It's controversial, it's 515 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. Maybe it's an overreach, but something needs 516 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: to be done about slow play and we got to 517 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: fix it. So ready golf, be ready when it's your turn, 518 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: and if you're ready to go, send it. Son of 519 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: a butcher comes to you almost every week. Rate review, 520 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Can't thank everybody enough 521 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: for listening. We will be back next week.