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Speaker 1: Welcome into jag zam kind Annie Stevens. Here is Brian

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Speaker 1: Sexton and John Oser. It's the adult drums of March.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna look ahead a little bit to the

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Speaker 1: draft and tell you what's been going on with the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars right now during the off season.

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Speaker 2: We'll start off with big things. Big thing number one

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Speaker 2: is a no go.

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Speaker 1: After free agency when there was limited moves, we did

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Speaker 1: see the Jaguars try to make a pickup with a

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Speaker 1: special teams player from the Seattle Seahawks, take Bobo, but

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Speaker 1: their offer was matched by the Seahawks, so he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be staying in Seattle and Brian without a ton of additions.

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Speaker 2: That was someone they kind of went after. They really

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Speaker 2: wanted him.

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Speaker 1: Because he's a special teams ace and he's really tough

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Speaker 1: and committee for that position.

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Speaker 3: And is a capable fifth receiver. He is a really

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Speaker 4: I mean, look John out Quickly, the Seattle Seahawks jumped

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Speaker 4: to match that the Jaguars wanted him. They were patient

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Speaker 4: and waiting for things to settle down to make their offer,

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Speaker 4: but it didn't take Seattle. On the eve of signing

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Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigbook to the biggest wide receiver contract

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Speaker 4: in league history. It took them almost no time to

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Speaker 4: make their decision about what they wanted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought the t's on, this is gonna be

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Speaker 5: no go Bobo, no Bobobo.

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Speaker 6: But they did really like him.

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Speaker 5: And I think it speaks to how the Jaguars are

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Speaker 5: going about free agency and that they're they're shopping for

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Speaker 5: things they want and when they don't if they don't

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Speaker 5: get those things, they're not going Willie and Nelly and Okay,

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Speaker 5: I didn't get this cool thing, Now I'm gonna get

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Speaker 5: the next cool thing.

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Speaker 6: They wanted this guy.

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think that it means they're going to

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Speaker 5: switch off to the quote next free agent or who

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Speaker 5: also play special teams. This was a very specific need

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Speaker 5: and I think they'll continue to look for the right

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Speaker 4: And Liam Cohen talked about this guy, not Mike or

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Speaker 4: Bobo specifically, but he talked about having that fifth receiver

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Speaker 4: caui last year during training camp, the bigger guy that

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Speaker 3: Teams in a meaningful way.

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Speaker 4: And they went They traded for Tim Patrick right before

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Speaker 4: the season began, and then they went looking hunting for

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Speaker 4: this guy, which goes to tell you, John that finding

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Speaker 4: this guy, a bigger receiver special team's ace is not

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Speaker 4: an easy guy to find. Y.

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Speaker 5: This guy's a little bit of a younger Tim Patrick

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Speaker 5: and with less tread on the tires.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens on that front.

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Speaker 1: We will or second, big things are they going to

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Speaker 1: be Let's make a deal. Now, they didn't make a

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Speaker 1: ton of big free agency signings or only one actually,

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Speaker 2: Now this is the time of the.

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Speaker 1: Year when they can focus a little bit on that. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: some people are going to be coming up in their

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Speaker 1: final year of their contracts. Other people they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get ahead of it with them. How much of that

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Speaker 1: is a focus for them right now? Also with the

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Speaker 1: draft coming up, John, But they are working on these deals.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a focus and it's a long

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Speaker 5: term focus. Parker Washing, Brenton Strange and Trayvon Walker are

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Speaker 5: the three. To me, my understanding is those are the three.

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Speaker 5: They want to figure out a way to try to

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Speaker 5: all three really reliable, really tough players, guys who fit.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be hard to get all three done within

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Speaker 5: a year. I think it's very doable. When I say.

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Speaker 6: Hard, you've really got to make the numbers work.

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Speaker 5: You have to make the player understand where it meets

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Speaker 5: the situation, where it makes sense for the team, and

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Speaker 5: those conversations can be hard when you're trying to do

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Speaker 5: the cap right. But I also think the relationship with

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Speaker 5: The team considers them long term building blocks, and now

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Speaker 5: you've just got to figure out a way to cement

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: The hard part, John, is is that the contract. Parker

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Speaker 3: So Parker was your number one guy last year.

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Speaker 4: Fifty eight catches led the team, ninety five targets led

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Speaker 4: Five receiving touchdowns led your team fourteen point six yards

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Speaker 3: So how do you pay that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, how do you keep up with a guy

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Speaker 4: certainly the guy that made the biggest plays for you.

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Speaker 4: But that's not that's not forty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: That's not what pookin Akua is going to get. So

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Speaker 4: as you start thinking reasonably about this is what he

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Speaker 4: means to us, and how do we carve out a

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Speaker 4: and Trayvon Walker who you mentioned, and Anton Harris who's

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Speaker 3: You got it. There's a lot of moving parts. It's

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Speaker 3: a very complicated negotiation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have some mechan ms KAI with Antonon, meaning

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Speaker 5: they had the fifty year option potential franchise tag, which

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Speaker 5: you see at that position sometimes when they need to

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Speaker 5: extend time. But I think with Parker Washington, the key

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Speaker 5: is they keep speaking about this receiver position as sort

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Speaker 6: None of them were over a thousand yards last year.

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Speaker 5: That's how ideally you would pay the guys as part

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Speaker 5: as part of a puzzle, so that's the rub.

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Speaker 4: One other factor also is is that you paid Jakobe Myers,

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Speaker 4: He is the highest paid receiver on your team. He's

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Speaker 4: only twenty third overall in the NFL, and I would

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Speaker 4: imagine that if you pay him twenty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 4: you're expecting him to graduate into that number one guy

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Speaker 4: role for them next year. So it's a fascinating conversation

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Speaker 4: as you start to look forward with where this team

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Speaker 1: Yep, something to keep an eye on, especially as the

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Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be on location.

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Speaker 2: We're looking ahead.

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Speaker 1: The owners' meetings are taking place next week. The stadium

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Speaker 1: construction well underway here in Jacksonville, but they're going to

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Speaker 1: be voting the owners are on where the team will

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Speaker 2: Game their home games.

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Speaker 1: Excues me next season when the stadium is being renovated. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously they have one more season here in Jacksonville, Brian,

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Speaker 1: but it's between Jainesville and Orlando. It's going to officially

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Speaker 1: next week, will have a location.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I had speaking engagement in Orlando last week and a

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Speaker 4: a strong assumption on the part of people in the

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Speaker 4: we haven't heard anything from the league, and there's a

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Speaker 4: be for the Jaguars going forward. It's not the most

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Speaker 4: talk about a lot on this show. The stadium, obviously,

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Speaker 4: So it's a question and a concern because people want

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Speaker 4: to know where they're going to sit in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: The Jaguars have played time to get this one done,

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Speaker 4: but there's a lot of interest in Central Florida, I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all the buzz seems to be Orlando.

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Speaker 5: But the reason there's a vote and the reason they

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Speaker 5: things official, so we'll see next week.

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Speaker 2: Officials officially official. Next week, we'll check in and see

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Speaker 1: Next week on Jagson, we'll hopefully have the latest for

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Speaker 1: you then a little later on in the show. Today,

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Speaker 1: stay with us, We're going to check in with some

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Speaker 1: of your players in the off season, see what they're

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Speaker 1: getting up to. We check in little Laquinn Allen. Welcome, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind downy Stephen Jaguars team reporter checking in with

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Speaker 1: to in the off season. And first off is going to,

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Speaker 1: of course be running back with Quinn Allen.

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Speaker 6: You finish up.

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Speaker 1: Finally your rookie year's over, so I imagine the first

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Speaker 1: time you have been playing football in a while, right,

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Speaker 1: So does it feel a little weird?

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Speaker 7: It definitely feels a little bit of weird. But I've

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Speaker 7: been training, you know, I'm ready to get back. I

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Speaker 7: can't wait till you get back.

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Speaker 1: So what are you up to right now?

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Speaker 2: What's what's the training deal?

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Speaker 4: And where are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm training at Arizona Exles, you know, just perfecting my craft,

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Speaker 7: you know, so I can take it to the next level.

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Speaker 8: You know, we hit the field and we lift every day.

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Speaker 7: And you know we have a like training staff in

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Speaker 7: just keep your body, you know, up to date, you know,

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Speaker 1: Definitely absolutely rookie years behind. You now have that little

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Speaker 1: bit of experience. What was the biggest I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's shock or surprise. What was the biggest like

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Speaker 1: change for you going pro?

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Speaker 9: I would say just just like a day to day basis,

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Speaker 9: just knowing like your body is, knowing like how to

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Speaker 9: perform at the highest level every day because you know

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Speaker 9: it's a long season.

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Speaker 7: Even before the season starts, you know, camp and all

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Speaker 7: of that. But you know, other than that, once you

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Speaker 7: realize that, you know, it's smooth.

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Speaker 2: Some changes in your room.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Traves etn go back home. He signed with the Saints.

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Speaker 2: But now you have a.

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Speaker 1: New guy and sea Rod coming into town. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with this game or not, but

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Speaker 1: is it kind of exciting to have a new face

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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to meet him, you know, I can't

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Speaker 7: wait to learn a few things with them.

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Speaker 8: The season's gonna be great. I can't wait to get

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Speaker 8: after it.

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Speaker 1: I did want to ask you a follow on social media,

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Speaker 1: of course, and I saw you on Twitter show a photo.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's AI, but it's from twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: so tell me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Where did that photo come from?

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Speaker 7: So I was getting recruited to Syracuse and twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: was COVID and Syracuse wanted me to commit there.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to jag Zam.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're gonna check in with doron oser ozone

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Speaker 2: Share your wisdom with us as you do every day

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Speaker 3: I'll share it.

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Speaker 1: So definitely we're gonna start with a Scooter from Saint

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Speaker 1: Augustine says the roster looks pretty solid. Is this the

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Speaker 4: The only I can add to this is that when

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Speaker 6: How it looks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's nothing wrong with that because these are

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Nothing, deadlines makehap things happen.

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Speaker 4: Nothing really happens till the deadline. Ano the Jaguars, the

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 4: DNA guy, and I don't want to say you pay

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Also, all three of these guys, I'm not meaning to

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Speaker 5: So all three of these guys are guys that when

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Speaker 5: You don't worry about these guys with any sort of

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Speaker 1: There's just very few players when we talk about setting

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Speaker 2: He's one of those players.

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Speaker 1: Obviously your quarterback by definition, but Tremon Walker's one of

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Speaker 3: Not as good.

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Speaker 5: If you want to be tough, if you want to

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I this will not necessarily be a popular opinion, but

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Speaker 4: we think, but because I think when he's healthy, as

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Speaker 3: Then he's so tough.

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Speaker 4: I think he could do that over ten years and

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Speaker 5: I always go back to, and it's right comparison, but

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Speaker 5: it's one Jags fans might be familiar with. He reminds

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, for.

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Speaker 5: Sure, never necessarily. Oh wow, he's the best SAT guy

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Speaker 6: You have egg on your face right now?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: I think with Trayvon, I think that's the kind of

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Speaker 3: Go, Wow, yeah, exactly good, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Our final question for you, John Mikey asks you, Mike,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of the Cleveland Browns proposal to

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Speaker 2: Does it have any chance of passing?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about.

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Speaker 6: At the meaning does that have a chance.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty far out.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a I don't have a real feel

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Speaker 5: that it has a chance. I don't think this team

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Speaker 5: likes it, meaning the Jags. I doubt that vote for it.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 5: It sounds okay on paper, but here's what I think

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Speaker 5: the league has to guard against with this, and I

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Speaker 5: think they will guard against I d I do not

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Speaker 5: think it'll pass. You've got your a GM in twenty

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Speaker 5: six can trade theoretically twenty seven nine thirty thirty one

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Speaker 5: first second round picks in I I in in what

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Speaker 5: for the GM is a desperate move to keep his job,

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Speaker 5: and then you have the new regime coming in with

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Speaker 5: nothing to build.

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Speaker 2: On half a decade.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: The argument the owners other owners could say is well,

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Speaker 5: it's up to the owner of that team to take

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Speaker 5: responsibility for that GM. But I think sometimes, Brian, we've

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Speaker 5: seen the owner's uh the salary caps a goold example

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Speaker 5: of this. Owners have to make rules to guard against themselves,

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Speaker 5: to protect them against themselves, and I think this would

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Speaker 5: be I think this would lead to a lot of

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Speaker 5: really bad situations.

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Speaker 6: I think the move would be bad for the league.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine why ownership would want to put themselves

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Speaker 4: in this situation, except that we have seen plenty of

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Speaker 4: owners in this league who opened that checkbook in pursuit

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Speaker 4: of free agency and watch it create downstream effects to

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Speaker 4: their salary cap. Just imagine if Trent Balki had had

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Speaker 4: all that sort of leverage and spent knowing he was

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Speaker 4: on the hot seat and left James Gladstone and Tony

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Speaker 4: Boselli without anything that they could use to move up

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Speaker 4: last year to grab the player.

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Speaker 3: That they wanted.

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Speaker 4: It just it hamstrings your future.

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Speaker 3: I would not would not allow this to happen.

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Speaker 5: But again, the other argument is owners own the team,

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Speaker 5: so it is ultimately the owner's responsibility if he sees

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Speaker 5: a GM about to do this to say, hey, I

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Speaker 5: don't care what regime you're in, this is my team.

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Speaker 6: You're not doing it. Realistically, it's not often how the.

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Speaker 5: League works, so I think this is a dangerous thing

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Speaker 5: and could really hamster franchise.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I've heard in terms of support for

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Speaker 4: this is that it creates more interest because it creates

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Speaker 4: a trade. That's not a reason to do it. There's

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Speaker 4: enough interest in the national it dominates. Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 4: it's fun, but it doesn't I think stand up to

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Speaker 4: the test of time. Which is what this league has

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Speaker 4: done so well is to make sure that they do

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Speaker 4: the right thing for the right reason.

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Speaker 5: I mean, clearly, the league likes the effect of making

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Speaker 5: compensatory picks tradeable. The league clearly likes because it used

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Speaker 5: to me, you got those compics he had to take

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Speaker 5: and they were sort of bored well, now you have

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Speaker 5: compics and it's.

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Speaker 6: Like when you do a little light with a cat,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 5: So compicks are fun because everybody trades and use them

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Speaker 5: as currency. But I don't think this team likes it,

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Speaker 5: and this team likes using picks as currency. So hopefully

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Speaker 5: this team's approach.

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Speaker 6: To this.

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Speaker 5: Well help allow the rest of the league to calm

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Speaker 5: down and say, let's not go this far ahead.

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Speaker 6: You've already got three years worth. Yeah, have your fun

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Speaker 6: with those three.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, they need twenty four votes to make this pass.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to see twenty four votes on this one.

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Speaker 1: So far out five years from now, who knows what'll

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Speaker 1: be going.

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Speaker 5: With excly, Yeah, and I think that's what I just

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Speaker 5: think it's dangerous to.

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Speaker 6: Get off my lawn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, stay with on Jagsam. We'll come back

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Speaker 1: after the break, tell you what's coming up with the

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Speaker 1: owner's meetings and with the Jaguars next week. Dogs fans,

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Speaker 1: time to lock in your seats for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: You can place your deposits now.

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Speaker 1: Next season here at ever Bank Stadium gonna be limited

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Speaker 1: capacity due to that renovation, so you don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss out on your chance to see some of the

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Speaker 1: best matchups of the season. Those are the games that

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Speaker 1: are going to be at the stadium here next year.

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Speaker 1: So check out Jaguars dot com slash tickets can call

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Speaker 1: in as well, I if want to get that locked down.

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Speaker 2: There is new things.

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Speaker 1: Every time I drive by, there's something going on. The

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Speaker 1: new concourse is out there. It's very nice, so I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to see what progresses as this all ways along.

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Speaker 4: But I come over the Matthews Bridge on a daily basis,

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Speaker 4: and I the other day came over the Hartbridge just

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Speaker 4: to get a different view of it.

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Speaker 3: And it's they are.

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Speaker 4: Working around the stadium at all times and there's I

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Speaker 4: counted ten cranes, probably six of them are inside there.

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating stuff to see.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: So as we look forward to next week, not a

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Speaker 1: ton going on around here, but owners meetings are gonna

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Speaker 1: be taking place in Arizona this year. As mentioned, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be voting about where the Jaguars will play

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Speaker 1: their games season. After this, we're hearing Orlando or Gainsville.

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Speaker 1: A lot of commotion about Orlando, so hopefully by this

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Speaker 1: time next week we'll kind of know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always a big news event. William Cone will

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Speaker 5: speak to the media media at the breakfast on Monday,

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Speaker 5: so that's always a fun thing for Jaguars fans to see.

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Speaker 1: And some new faces in the coaches photo because I

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Speaker 1: think about what eleven new head coaches are different locations

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Speaker 1: for some of the head coaches, so we'll get some

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Speaker 1: new faces in the photo as well. Hopefully Liam Cone

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Speaker 1: doesn't get in a fight with it's all I'm the

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Speaker 1: head coach.

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Speaker 6: I think they'll be fine in the off season fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll have some news for you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back here on jag xam on Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: bringing the lays details the

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