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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Scheriico.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson, and we are here.

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Speaker 1: Today to talk to you about film and filming and

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Speaker 1: film stuff. Uh, Danielle, what's going on with you? What's up?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? I'm fine, just ringing in the

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Speaker 2: new year, just keeping it going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, had some uh had some personal news

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Speaker 1: come through during the holidays that I just let's just say,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot more free time than I think

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Speaker 1: I had before. So I'm getting used to it, if

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just sliding into a more relaxed way of life,

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Speaker 3: which I love.

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Speaker 2: I love adjustment of that.

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Speaker 3: I have been doing the opposite so as you know,

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Speaker 3: I do my rouber list every year. We talked about

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Speaker 3: it last episode, and one of the things I put

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Speaker 3: on my list, because I'm forty five, is that I

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Speaker 3: just I have to start taking care of my skin somehow,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like I just any anything that's happening up

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Speaker 3: to this point has just been pure genetics. But I

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Speaker 3: can see that train crashing. Like my Grandma's ninety. I

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Speaker 3: look at her face all the time, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you're still very cute, you don't look like you're ninety,

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Speaker 3: but I see what's coming. Yeah, So I've started electrocuting

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Speaker 3: my face essentially. I mean, that's how I put it.

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Speaker 3: I think most people would say that I'm using a

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Speaker 3: micro current you have is it like a handheld supper?

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Speaker 3: And you're like, I have two things? So let me

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Speaker 3: tell you And here's here's the only reason that even

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Speaker 3: attempt to get into this. So last January I was

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Speaker 3: in London with my friend Amy, who is just like

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Speaker 3: very chic and elegant and wonderful, and we were walking

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Speaker 3: around notting Hill and we passed a place called the

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Speaker 3: Face Gym, which I immediately made fun of.

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Speaker 2: I was like, a face gym? The fuck is this shit?

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Speaker 1: A total face fitness control, total face control?

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Speaker 3: And I was like what she's like and then she

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Speaker 3: stopped me and she's like, actually, they're amazing, like they're wonderful,

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Speaker 3: amazing places. And then she went in and made us

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Speaker 3: two appointments and I was like, what the hell what's

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Speaker 3: going on here? And I'm like, all right, I'll try

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Speaker 3: anything once, which has not served me well in life

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Speaker 3: as an ethos, but I can't give it up.

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Speaker 2: It's just the way I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm that way too. I love it. I think we're

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Speaker 1: on the right side of history.

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Speaker 3: I've had a lot of fun. I've made a lot

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Speaker 3: of mistakes, but I've had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Sure, And I went to the face gym. So this

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Speaker 1: is what's the word.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen in a face gym.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna like beat me up, like literally punch me

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Speaker 3: in the face.

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Speaker 1: Whoever the Billy Blanks of faces comes in, it's like,

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Speaker 1: get those cheeks up.

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Speaker 3: No more, no more lines they exhumed to stop the

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Speaker 3: insanity lady, and she just starts shouting at your face.

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Speaker 2: Like what's the worst.

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Speaker 3: So I go in and they have this menu you

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Speaker 3: can choose from, and I'm like, start me out with

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Speaker 3: the basics, like just clean my pores and like like

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Speaker 3: so they did, like they kind of did this mist

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Speaker 3: and this cleaning thing, and they use like a vacuum

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Speaker 3: to like suck up your face and they put all

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Speaker 3: these oils on it and then they use this microcurrent thing.

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Speaker 2: And what the woman who was doing my my face

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Speaker 2: jimming did.

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Speaker 3: Was she did one half of my face first, and

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Speaker 3: then she gave me a mirror, and I looked and

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh damn, I can actually see a difference.

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Speaker 1: Oh. They love doing that shit. They love being like check, yah,

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Speaker 1: well we just did the other the other half of

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Speaker 1: your face as old as fuck. Look at this baby's face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like the ultimate stunting. Like they do that shit

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Speaker 1: at like Soaphora. They do it every every fucking time

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Speaker 1: I've been to like an Esthetician, They're like, see what

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Speaker 2: You're dumb? Oh look at you, dummy.

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Speaker 3: They're like, look at this crip, creeper fucking shit you

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Speaker 3: at this Shirley Temple shit we just gave you. It

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Speaker 3: But then they gave me that mirror, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I look, haggard, I'm gonna walking around these streets looking

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Speaker 1: So so I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do the other side immediately.

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Speaker 3: So she did the other side, and I'm like, what

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Speaker 3: is And you can buy the microcurrent machine there, but

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Speaker 3: I didn't buy it there because I'm like, I'm not

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Speaker 3: paying UK prices for this thing. So I came home

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, what could I get? I'm gonna started

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Speaker 3: looking up like micro current. So I got this thing

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Speaker 3: from new Face and you face, which is how you

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Speaker 2: Got an uh huh.

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Speaker 3: So it's this little handheld thing and it's got these

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Speaker 3: two knobs on it, and then you put this like

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Speaker 3: oil on your face. You start fucking zap in your

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Speaker 3: face and it zaps it like every couple of seconds.

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Speaker 3: You can kind of change. I think there's three speeds

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Speaker 3: and I've just been zapping my damn face, just zapping

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Speaker 1: It's stimulating collagen. Isn't that what it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: doing or something like that?

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Speaker 2: Think so this is a thing, like I don't know

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Speaker 2: the science of it. It just works.

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Speaker 1: We should get Elizabeth to come on again. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm true beat to Brooklyn, so don't quote me on this,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like it's because like our cells are

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Speaker 1: just getting old and we need to in order to

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Speaker 1: look new, you have to regenerate them. So you either

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Speaker 1: have to fucking shock them to death or scrape them

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Speaker 1: off with a razor. Have you ever tried that dermo planing?

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what it's called out They make

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Speaker 1: those face razors. Now it's like a tiny little face razor,

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Speaker 1: and he and much like you like doing the new

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Speaker 1: face stuff. I think you like put some kind of

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Speaker 1: moisturizer or oil on your face, and then he starts scraping,

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Speaker 1: and then apparently it's scraping away dead skin cells, so

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Speaker 1: then you're just obliterate the first shitty old witch layer

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Speaker 1: and then it's like underneath, it's like baby skin, it's beautiful, like,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's what you have to do, I

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Speaker 1: guess is destroy the fucking cells, the old cells, and

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Speaker 1: then it regenerates new ones.

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Speaker 3: And my only comparison point for this is my feet.

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Speaker 3: So it's like when your feet are callous, you gotta

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Speaker 3: scrape them off with that like planar thing, So you're

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Speaker 3: basically taking your face callous off.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think new skin can come out underneath. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also like something about lymphatic drainage which I'm a

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Speaker 1: little unclear about, which is that I guess if you're

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Speaker 1: we are cuting it.

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Speaker 3: Like this bitch is electrocuting in its time to get

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Speaker 3: to work, time to make the fucking donuts. Like I

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Speaker 3: have had like that massages before, and I feel but

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Speaker 3: they didn't use any electricity. It's just like their hands.

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Speaker 3: But they like massage in certain places so that stimulates.

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Speaker 3: So I'm using electricity now. I'm like, let's get into

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Speaker 3: this modern shit. And I've been fucking electrocute in my

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Speaker 3: again like I usually have. Again all genetics, but I

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Speaker 3: have high cheekbones and like pretty nice skin, but now

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Speaker 3: it looks even better. And then I got this thing.

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Speaker 3: They sold me on it on Instagram. Here's how you

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Speaker 3: get me to electrocute my face. Don't show me a

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Speaker 3: twenty year old with like naturally dewey skin being like

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Speaker 3: and this is how I keep my skin like I

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Speaker 3: don't care. Show me a seventy year old woman who's

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Speaker 3: like I have frownlines from nineteen eighty three. That's how

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Speaker 3: you get me to buy your shit. So that's why

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Speaker 3: I bought a Sola Wave, which is a tiny wand

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Speaker 3: and it uses red light therapy and it buzzes and.

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Speaker 2: It warms up. And I've been using it because.

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Speaker 3: I have frown lines like in between my eyes because

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Speaker 3: I just like scrunched my eyes together all the time.

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Speaker 3: So I have these two little lines now coming out

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Speaker 3: the elevens, the elevens. I got the elevens. So I've

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Speaker 3: been using the wand on the elevens and it fucking works.

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Speaker 3: It's like three weeks, yeah, and I realized, like, my

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Speaker 3: only problem is that I have to do it all

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Speaker 3: the time. I can't just do it once a week

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Speaker 3: but I've been trying it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is basically what happened to me when I

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Speaker 1: was doing that retinal you know, they tell you, I

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Speaker 1: mean basically, they tell you to start using retinal now

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: But I was doing the rent All thing, which you know,

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Speaker 1: basically what I was doing is putting on a retinal

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Speaker 1: cream at night, you know. And it was great for

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Speaker 1: the first like three weeks. I was keeping up with

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Speaker 1: the you know, I don't know the routine or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But then I just fucking forgot, Like I traveled and

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, fuck, now I'm not using the

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Speaker 1: rent all for five nights. And then I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well I guess I'm not using it as much exactly.

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Speaker 1: But also I have to tell you I have had

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Speaker 1: my face electrocuted before I went to get a facial

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Speaker 1: down at my friend Amy. Lavelle's a plug for Amy level.

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Speaker 1: If you're in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: She has a a oh please.

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Speaker 1: Aviary absolutely Aviary and Summer Hill across the street from

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Speaker 1: How Crispy the Greatest Chick.

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Speaker 3: Please eat a chicken sandwich and go get your Facebook

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Speaker 3: and with executed.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I literally do that. I get a lash lift

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Speaker 1: and go eat a fried chicken sandwich. Afterwards I get

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Speaker 1: girl all that. Yeah, because you know how to live. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I went to Aviary. I had a

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Speaker 1: facial there. They asked me if I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: the face sapping right. I was like, yes, I'll try

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Speaker 1: anything once like you. And it was funny because it

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Speaker 1: was it did feel like a little zap, right, It

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Speaker 1: was going, yeah, ZiT and I could feel it a

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Speaker 1: little bit under my skin. And then afterwards she got

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Speaker 1: me onto this like it was. It's basically like retinol,

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Speaker 1: but it's like a toner. It's by this fancy plate

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Speaker 1: that biologic rearche. I don't know if I said that right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's but it's rashish. I don't know forerrero. So,

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Speaker 1: but that is like a they call it a pee.

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Speaker 1: It's called a P fifty lotion, and apparently it's doing

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Speaker 1: whatever it is that I need to have done nice.

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Speaker 1: But it's not a like a cream. It's just like

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Speaker 1: a thing you just dab, like after you mesh your face,

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Speaker 1: so that for some reason feels a little bit less,

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Speaker 1: like like I can manage that a little bit better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then we'll putting a cream on. I don't know, well,

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Speaker 1: especially at nighttime.

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Speaker 3: Like at nighttime, I'm not always feeling like I want

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm extremely lazy when it comes to that

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Speaker 2: And I you don't have to be that lady. You

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Speaker 3: Maybe you need a two step like a little Texas

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get everything down to the fucking minimum.

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Speaker 1: I will say something about that Biologique rischersh stuff. Part

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Speaker 1: it smells like rancid salad dressing. Why the fuck do

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Speaker 2: Your farts?

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Speaker 3: Like you don't come near me, you won't be able

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Speaker 1: How did that go?

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Speaker 3: That was one of the wildest experiences of my life.

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Speaker 3: So again Country guys, Country and my dentists, so they

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Speaker 2: W And I was like, let's do.

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Speaker 1: That, yo, that is amazing.

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Speaker 3: This guy pulls up at a fucking conversion van and

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Speaker 2: I'm like all right, and Vladimir put me down.

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Speaker 3: There was a machine at one like the back end

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Speaker 3: like he did it like he's like, this will take

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Speaker 3: I sat down and he just did my scan and

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Speaker 1: because you know that I get scans every six us, right,

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Speaker 1: But like, even a CT scan is uncomfortable, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And all that shit.

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Speaker 3: I had no time to be anxious because I was

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Speaker 1: Dude, did they have to put Okay, I think I

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Speaker 1: either had a seats here at MRI on my brain

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Speaker 1: wants too. Did they put the like Quiet Riot mask

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Speaker 2: When they did it, they had it was like a

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Speaker 1: Oh, so they had like.

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Speaker 3: A little forehead shield. And then he had me bite

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Speaker 1: Yes, bitch, Yes, I've had one of them.

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Speaker 2: It rotates around that head.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I've had one of them. It's actually fucking

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Speaker 3: And when he gave me the little cotton thing, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I can't believe it came right

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Speaker 1: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: And then I sit down on the stool and he's

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Speaker 3: I didn't smell so bad, and he was like, here's

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm sorry pull suck in that like my

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Speaker 3: I still don't know how to talk to people's I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that moment, like I had that moment

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Speaker 2: My you know.

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Speaker 1: And so I was like, okay, well let me look

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Speaker 1: It's not extensions. We're not putting anything on you. It's

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Speaker 1: just literally like we take your eyelashes and we curl

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a little you know how like when

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Speaker 1: perms in the eighties as much as I got perms

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. My fucking mom loved a home permanent.

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Speaker 1: Loved it.

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Speaker 1: You know those chemical stink to high heaven, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: then they they comb them out, and then they just

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Speaker 1: just curls up. Right. I don't know how it's done

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Speaker 1: because I'm on the table, but it's very relaxing. And

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Speaker 1: I look cute and like demure mat and I'm like

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Speaker 1: or something, and so of course I had to get

437
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: him done again. I go listen again, going through some

438
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: personal changes, and I was totally in my feelings about

439
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: it at that very moment that I pulled up to

440
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: that lash lift, and then I just sounded like a

441
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: maniac because I was in a good space about it.

442
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: Let's just say that I was in a really good

443
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: space about it. But I was definitely doing the whole

444
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: like and you know, it's good for me, transitioning, move on,

445
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, like phoenix rising from the ashes. I was

446
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: like saying all this crazy shit, but I was like

447
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: definitely on one about it. And this poor person that

448
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: had to sit there and deal with my crazy shit

449
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, okay, but I don't know how to

450
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: talk to people either, Like I just walk into a

451
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: public place and just a onloading, like onloading everything.

452
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is that these poor people they

453
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: don't know that we don't know. Yeah, well, because they're

454
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: working public jobs again, so they're out amongst people and

455
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: they talk to people all the time. And I'm like,

456
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 3: I live alone and I don't talk to anybody. Yes,

457
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: it's like I've been released, like you know, those basements

458
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: in the seventies and eighties where it's like kind of

459
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: slanted and the doors opened on either side like you can.

460
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: It's like I've been fucking broken out.

461
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: Of one of those basements, yes, with like a storm door,

462
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: and I'm just coming every every time I leave the house.

463
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 3: It's like I'm fucking flying out of one of those basements.

464
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna say.

465
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: I know, I really do think it has a lot

466
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: to do with the living alone, because it's just like,

467
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: if you had somebody around, you'd be sitting there being

468
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: like chit chatting every five fucking seconds and like cooking

469
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: and like you know, sitting around in bed or doing whatever.

470
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: Even if you just had a roommate, you're talking a lot,

471
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: like oh my god, being alone means you have a

472
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: lot of that shit backed up, and then when when

473
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: the floodgates open, they open.

474
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: They open.

475
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: My my my former sister Ali just I call her

476
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: my sister because we've got I've known her since I

477
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: was fourteen, and like she's my nephew's mom, Like she's

478
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: just been part of my heart forever.

479
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: So she's my sister. And we went out for we had.

480
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 3: We got dinner together, and she made the mistake of

481
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: asking me like, Hey, how's your home rento going? And

482
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: I swear I saw her at one point. She's so sweet,

483
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: but I saw her at one point after I talked

484
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: for like twenty straight minutes, I'm like showing her Pinterest

485
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 3: pages and like and then might do this, and then

486
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that, And she had one of those

487
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: yawns that she like tried to conceal that she like

488
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: stuck in her mouth. So I saw her chin just

489
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 3: kind of stretched and she was like mmm, And I'm like,

490
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut up now.

491
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I'm been going on about this

492
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: for a long time.

493
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: All that happened to be on a podcast once talk

494
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: about talk about embarrassing the other person who's interview with

495
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: me was just like doing that gunning, and I was like, God, damn,

496
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: I better wrap this up.

497
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: I just have a wrap it up sign flashing in

498
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: my head every time I leave the house, Like He's like, ma'am,

499
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: I just asked, I just told you the price. It's

500
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: five ninety nine. I do not need this twenty minute conversation.

501
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: With you.

502
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I'm gonna put it there's I do

503
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: have social things on my list this year so I

504
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: can try to re enter society. And I'm definitely talking

505
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: about it with my therapist a lot, because god damn,

506
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: I have to.

507
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: But I'm proud of you forgetting a lashlift. Look, do

508
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 2: whatever you need to do to feel better. It's not

509
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: hurting anyone, that's right. A lash lift is minor.

510
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Well, listen in that same vein, I'm glad you're electrocuting

511
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: your fucking face.

512
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: Thank you.

513
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: I feel every day, I know, And I was gonna

514
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: say you like you famously have never needed anything, but

515
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: I get it, Like I'm look, I get it. And

516
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: all I have to say about that is well, welcome

517
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: to the pain. But look, I'm gonna say it right now,

518
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: Like you look glowing even over this little video, you

519
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: look glow.

520
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: You My dark underreye circles are going away.

521
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably like I sleep a lot, Like why

522
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: aren't these circles going away?

523
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, let me zap them. Yeah no, Like,

524
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: don't get too close to your eye and I'm like,

525
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: too late, bitch, I take that.

526
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: Soula wave and I'm like right up in there. I'm

527
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: probably gonna go blind, but I've had a good run.

528
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. We absolutely we're doing We're doing the things we

529
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: want to do, and that's all that counts, right.

530
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: Look, yes, because we have a bare men's we have

531
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: such minimal enjoyment that we allow ourselves. So I'm all

532
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: for it. You know what else, I'm all for this

533
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: theme you came up with this week.

534
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, finally, thanks for coming

535
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: up Millie.

536
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: I I.

537
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: Have been so lacking in the good themes, like, and

538
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I apologize for that, but honestly, like I was like, yo,

539
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: we I brought something to the table.

540
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: Holy shit, everything for sure. Yeah.

541
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: Well, and also like coming up with the name, like

542
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: that's always been a you thing, Like you're incredibly good

543
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: at coming up with theme names. Okay uh, and I'm

544
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: famously bad at it. Even in my days as a programmer,

545
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: I had a hard time coming up with names for themes.

546
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: You're the best at it. But for some reason I

547
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: pulled this out of my ass this week, and it's

548
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: just now I'm just like, Okay, cool, you did something.

549
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Now you don't have to do anything for a while.

550
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: You're a grand slam pinch hitter is what you are

551
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: like basses are looted. Thank you, here comes Millie knocks

552
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: it out of the damn park.

553
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for using an analogy. I completely understand. I

554
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Well, why don't you tell them then,

555
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: what the theme is for the week?

556
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: I mean, our theme this week is hang up the phone,

557
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: I need to use the internet. We're having a visceral

558
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: flashback right now. You are of our age group.

559
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely for anybody that's younger than I don't know, thirty,

560
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't know how long has high speed internet been around.

561
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: I can't I can't even.

562
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Say yeah, I think thirty is probably safe.

563
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this this theme is definitely about the early

564
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: days of the Internet. Okay, and we have got two

565
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: movies this week that are just like fucking WLAH impeccable,

566
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: honestly impeccable, beautiful. But I want to ask you, because

567
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people know this, I think by now,

568
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: But if you somehow don't Danielle and I met off

569
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the internet technically right during like the umber live journal

570
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: sort of days blogs. I can remember going to your blog. Yeah,

571
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I had a blog for a long time. Yeah, yeah,

572
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: and that's I think That's kind of what I want

573
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: to ask you is, like do you when do you

574
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: remember like being on like when your family got a modem,

575
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: or like how do you remember like being introduced to

576
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: the internet.

577
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I totally remember, because there's no way in hell

578
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: my family had a computer in my house.

579
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: No way I remember going.

580
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: To my I went to college for a year right

581
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: out of high school, and then I left college for

582
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: like thirteen years. But that first year nineteen ninety five,

583
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: there was a huge announcement announcement during our orientation and

584
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: they're like, we have internet, so we have email addresses

585
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: for everyone WHOA And I was like what? And I

586
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: was still using the computers in the library. Did not

587
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: have my own computer when I to college, and I

588
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: didn't get my own computer until like ninety seven. I

589
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: want to say, so my first introduction, like I knew

590
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: it was kind of around, but my first introduction to

591
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: it was I had to save enough money to buy

592
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: my computer and then make sure I had enough money

593
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: to pay for internet, which was not included in your

594
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: phone bill or anything like that.

595
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: It was like a whole separate thing.

596
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: You had to hook it up through your phone, but

597
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: like it was just very different how to connect to

598
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: even the internet. Earthlink anyone out there have Earthlink?

599
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh?

600
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Helly, I remember what it was called mind Spring bitch

601
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: because that shit moved out of Atlanta. That shit was

602
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: an Atlanta company, and like, I know a lot of

603
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: people who used to work at mind Spring day and

604
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: that turned into Earthlink.

605
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: So Earthlink was the shit.

606
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: And I really just I kind of found my people

607
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: through the things that I liked and there it's wild

608
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: that I have friends right now who have had for

609
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: over twenty years that I met on forums for musicians

610
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: that I liked. I met on like craft forums and

611
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: we're still friends twenty years later.

612
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: That's inesane wild.

613
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. I So, I remember in elementary

614
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: school and I was living in Charleston, right right outside

615
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: of Charleston, South Carolina. There was one person that I

616
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: knew that had a computer and they had a Commodore

617
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: sixty four and their parents were doctors, so they were

618
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: rich as shit. And I remember playing like video games

619
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: on the Commodore sixty four only at this girl, this

620
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: girl's house. But I don't remember the Internet. I mean,

621
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: there was obviously none of that. It was just basically like, oh,

622
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm playing I'm playing a computer game.

623
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Right right, logo of the Turtle.

624
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the first time I'd ever been in

625
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: front of the computer, and it was only for extremely

626
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: wealthy people, right. And then I remember in nineteen ninety five,

627
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: one of my best friends had a computer, her mom

628
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: had a computer, let's get serious. And then they had

629
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: America Online, damn, and we fucking fucked with that shit

630
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: so hard. Like we created a screen name for my

631
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: friend Karen, and we would go into chat rooms and

632
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: just like sit around and chat.

633
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: With people all the time.

634
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, about music, but then

635
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, just like shit, like we didn't know what

636
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: we were doing. And then so we fucked with America Online,

637
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: like on the rags. When we were at Karen's house.

638
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I remember we would watch Terminator two Judgment day on

639
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: VHS and then we'd go into her basement and play

640
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: with America Online like all night long. Like that was

641
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: the sleepover vibe back then. But then my family got

642
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: a computer at some point and it was fucking huge.

643
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: It was like this giant machine. And then we got

644
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: America Online because you could get a free trial. Remember,

645
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: you could just like go to the store and get

646
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: a free disc to.

647
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Leave your house. Sorry sending them to you.

648
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they would send them to you, and we

649
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: would we would use America Online on that fourteen point

650
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: four modem. God, oh my god, because that, I think

651
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: is something that our movies are both about. Is this

652
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: idea that like the Internet ran through the phone?

653
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't.

654
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in order to connect to the

655
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Internet you had to like dial you had to have

656
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: the modem dial in exactly. Oh god, it could take forever.

657
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: Oh I just could please drop in the sound casey

658
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: of the former dial up dude.

659
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, that sound is gonna haunt my fucking dreams.

660
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: But you know, it was like and I remember fourteen

661
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: four was like I think that was like the hottest,

662
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: and then I remember went to twenty eight eight, I

663
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: think it's yeah, and then everyone was like, holy fucking shit,

664
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: the graphics just got better. God, everything is fucking different

665
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: in my life because the fucking modem got better.

666
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Because mine sweeper looks so clear.

667
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm able to go talk about SKA bands faster.

668
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Ah so dumb. I mean, I mean everything about that world, though,

669
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I mean as much as like fucking gen X people

670
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: like are annoying a shit like that whole world of

671
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the early Internet was kind of super fun and like

672
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: so fun, I think honestly, like that's that's a big

673
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: part of my movie too, is just like this like

674
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: weird culture of the Internet, which you know, obviously we'll

675
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: we'll talk a lot about, but just like the idea

676
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: of like a bunch of little kids like getting on

677
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: there and people like, you know, doing all this weird

678
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: shit and talking they're weird shit. I mean, I don't

679
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: think my parents like ever knew what was going on, no,

680
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: but they were like, I mean they never they certainly

681
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: never flew anybody down to meet me, and you know,

682
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: that never happened. But it was this thing in order

683
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: to like make friends and you know, just sort of

684
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: like connect with people. It's great.

685
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: It was so fun. It was so much fun. But

686
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: I also have to say, for both of our movies,

687
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: when I look at Old Tech, it makes it just

688
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: makes me sick to my stomach.

689
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how we did it. It makes me

690
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: fucking sick. I'm looking at these movies and I'm like.

691
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: Ew Yes, Like both of our movies have like sequences

692
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: where there's like stuff happening, and you're just.

693
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, my shit, look at how gross this.

694
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. There's this part of your movie where

695
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: they're tracing a phone call, and I'm just like, look

696
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: at this ugly shit, Like, look at how they have

697
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: to put a home telephone receiver onto a machine. It

698
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: makes me now like Apple products are all smooth and beautiful.

699
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: No, it makes me want a fucking puke. It makes me.

700
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: And I have a reveal. I told you I have

701
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: a reveal for your movie, Oh my god. And I

702
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: waited till we recorded because I wanted to get your

703
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: pure reaction to my next statement.

704
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have never seen hackers.

705
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: That I'm shocked, but that's okay.

706
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: I avoided it for most of my life. Yes, yes,

707
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: I watched it for.

708
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: This pod, and I gotta tell you this is my hereditary.

709
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: I do not know how I'm ever.

710
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Gonna forgive you for making me watch this piece of shit.

711
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is the worst.

712
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: Movie I have ever fucking seen.

713
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: But it is also the funniest movie I have ever

714
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 3: fucking seen.

715
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh, we are going to talk about that shit and

716
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: more like.

717
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: I've known of its existence and I avoided it, and

718
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, this does not look good.

719
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: It is not for me.

720
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: It has aged so terribly. It might be the worstly

721
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: aged worstly is that a word? It might be the

722
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: most terribly aged movie ever. True, really so dated.

723
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Right, well, you're going first, and I cannot wait to

724
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: get into it.

725
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: So let's please get into it.

726
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: Okay. I am fucking ready to go, so okay, and

727
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: trust me, I don't even have a lot to say

728
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: about it, so I can't wait to fucking show. Oh

729
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: I do I do well because it's just like you know,

730
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: it's so dumb. So my movie for the theme hang

731
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: up the phone, I Need to use the Internet is

732
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: a movie from nineteen ninety five. It was written by

733
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Raphael Maru. It was directed by Ian Softly, and it's

734
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: called Hackers.

735
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Pack the Planet.

736
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna pretend that this movie is high art. Okay,

737
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: we you know why you're here. You know why you're here. Okay. Also,

738
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this right now.

739
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: I have to.

740
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I have to say this upfront, because I just have to.

741
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know shit about hackers and I don't fuck

742
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: and I don't fuck with hackers, just like I refuse

743
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: to say anything bad on record about eminem and the

744
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: entire city of Philadelphia. You can't catch me saying bad

745
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: stuff about hackers because I don't do that. Don't don't

746
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: hack me, don't hack my planet, you know what I'm saying.

747
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: But but I will say the writer of this film,

748
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: I think was really interested in the hacking subculture, and

749
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: like shadowed a bunch of hackers and he hung out

750
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: with them while he was writing the script, and so

751
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I know, and so I know that there's like a

752
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: lot of references to hacking culture in the movie. Don't

753
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: ask me to tell you about them. Just look them

754
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: up on the internet, just like the vibe of the episode.

755
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: Look it up on the Internet. But the other notable

756
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: thing really about the movie, besides the fact that it

757
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: is capturing this entire subculture in this like perfect era, right,

758
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: is the soundtrack, which is all like these really big

759
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: electronica bands like Underworld and Prodigy and Orbital and Kruder

760
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: and Dwarfmeister, and like this was at the time that

761
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: this movie came out, that was pretty much brand new, right,

762
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Like Enim really wasn't big in America yet, but it

763
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: was growing in Europe, right, And it was kind of

764
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: like the new rock and roll in a lot of ways.

765
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: It was like this whole new genre of music, and

766
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: it was pretty much listened to by like a lot

767
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: of like weirdos and freaks. And I mean, I just

768
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: think that's really remarkable because now electronic music is just

769
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: so much part of music, right, So in this time

770
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: it was really really new, and so of course you

771
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: mix this whole like electronic music with the hacking culture.

772
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the day, the movie

773
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: itself like was pretty much like the first big Hollywood

774
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: movie for like computer nerds. Which good for you know,

775
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: we know how that all turned out. It's been completely

776
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: positive for the entire world. So good for you. You got

777
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: your movie, your first movie.

778
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: The Internet is not a failed experiment. We shouldn't cut

779
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: to shut it off immediately.

780
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Everybody is a total good actor, and we

781
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: have nothing but wealth and security.

782
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Everyone's prospering on the Internet universe.

783
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: So a one senten synopsis because we have to write,

784
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: even though I think you pretty much will know what

785
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: this movie is about. A group of high school kids

786
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: who are also computer hackers, are framed for a cyber

787
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: crime and are desperate to try to clear their name perfect.

788
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's what the movie is about. Roughly, this

789
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: movie is also for me. It's about the sunglasses lobby

790
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: just really kicking it into high gear. Was there like

791
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: a fucking sale on tiny Mirrord glasses when this gossp

792
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: designer was getting the shit together? I think that the

793
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: tiny sunglass makers were definitely in cahoots with the roller

794
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: blade manufacturing army.

795
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there is like a whole Starlight Express element

796
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 3: to this film that we have to discuss. This fucking

797
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: Starlight Express hang zone will be discussed.

798
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Because I have never fucked with roller blades in my

799
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: entire never.

800
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: They're very dangerous.

801
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: They are the toe shoes of the rolling world.

802
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that makes any sense.

803
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: It absolutely makes a hard percent sense.

804
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Like not even JFK. Junior could make rollerblading sexy.

805
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Can you even think of anything that comes close to

806
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: roller blades? Whereas they started off dorky and they're still dorky.

807
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: Pogo balls, that's it.

808
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: But you know how like a lot of times people

809
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: take like extremely dorky things and then they like there's

810
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: a moment where somebody tries to make it cool, and

811
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: then people kind of ironically get into shit.

812
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: I feel like.

813
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Roller blades have always been dorky and continue to be

814
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: so Am I wrong about that?

815
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: No, you're not wrong about it, because they they're by

816
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: sheer size of what they are.

817
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: They can't be slimmed down.

818
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: They can't be the Only thing we're going to come

819
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: close to to make rollerblading cool is when we finally

820
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: get some kind of like like neon spinning wheel that

821
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: goes on underneath them and it's not even wheels, it's

822
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 3: just like air and particles or some shit.

823
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Like in forty five years rollerblades might be cool.

824
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: But even then, I guarantee people are gonna be like,

825
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: we have flying cars, why are you on those fucking blades?

826
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I even feel like Razor scooters had a

827
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: slight day in the sun. Yeah, this is like roller

828
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: They need to get that pr on the rollerblading tip

829
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: because that is y'all got. Y'all got some work to do.

830
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: It feels like I'll just say that.

831
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Even still thirty years later.

832
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: Still, but the rollerblades, the sunglasses, and then I have

833
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: three major questions that I hope we're going to discuss,

834
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: of course in relation to this film, And they are

835
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: what is Matthew Lillard wearing? What is what is Matthew

836
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: Lillard saying? And what is Matthew Lillard doing at any

837
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: point in this film?

838
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh? How dare you think we would never approach the

839
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: subjects of Matthew Lillard in Hackers? Are you joking? Right now?

840
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: I can make this entire episode nothing but that we

841
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: might have.

842
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: To do a bonus because I have so much to

843
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: say about this film.

844
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 3: But it's.

845
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, go forth, get us into this wild world.

846
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna it's The plot is sort

847
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: of like, it's tiny, it's a tiny bit convoluted. But

848
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: then I'll just try to be as brief about it

849
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: as I can. So essentially, at the beginning of this movie,

850
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: Felicity Huffman is prosecuting somebody for an internet crime, and

851
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: as it turns out, it's like an eleven year.

852
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: Old kid.

853
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Wall. Yes, and just like we talked about in like

854
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: the omen episode, like the shot sent this little kid

855
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: in a suit being tried in a courtroom for hacking

856
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: is really fucking funny.

857
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.

858
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: Uh, And so this this eleven year old kid gets

859
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: prosecuted for the he took down Wall Street. He's eleven,

860
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: and his his handle, his name is zero Cool. That's

861
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: his handle. So Zero Cool was an eleven year old

862
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: kid who like fucking took down the financial institutions of

863
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: the world. Okay, and it cuts in like seven years later,

864
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: and guess what Zero Cool is now in high school.

865
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: His real name is Dade Murphy. Okay, but his handle

866
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: has changed now. His his Internet handle is crash Override

867
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: all right now, Dade Murphy Slash Crash Override is played

868
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: by the British actor Johnny Lee Miller, and he talks

869
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: like a newspaper reporter from the nineteen forties the entire movie.

870
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: So get used to it. Just get used to it.

871
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: And okay, I see, I'm back on the internet, Sae.

872
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I know.

873
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to have sort of an American accent right now,

874
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: but I don't know why you keep talking like James

875
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: Cagney in a movie from the forties. But I will

876
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: say about this about Johnny Lee Miller in nineteen ninety five,

877
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: perhaps the era ideal. Maybe he's very cute, bleach blonde, sarcastic.

878
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: This was right before he was in Trainspotting. Even though

879
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: he sort of looks the same, like still has the

880
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: bleach blonde hair, Okay, and so he's very cute. He's

881
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: a good person to navigate us through this hackers world

882
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: because it's set up very similarly to every teen movie

883
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: you've ever seen, which is that Dane Is has been

884
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: prosecuted as a child and now he's just trying to

885
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: lead a straight life. He wants to leave his baby

886
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: hacking days behind him, but he also is still so

887
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, he spends a lot of time as a

888
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: as a student like hacking. I guess, I don't know

889
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's just like online typing very fast.

890
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: But also he's he was banned from using computers until

891
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: he was eighteen, So how does he even know how

892
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: to do this shit anymore?

893
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it feels like you're gone off

894
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: the internet to day you miss everything. Yeah, so I

895
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: don't know, it's so hard to say what he's doing.

896
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I guess. So, yeah, he was banned from the from hacking,

897
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: and so now he's back, but him and his mom

898
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: have just moved to New York City. He's starting a

899
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: new high school. Okay, So it's just like that that

900
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: thing that like disturbing behavior thing where some tragedy has happened,

901
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the family has moved to a new place, and then

902
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: they have to attend the new school and meet the

903
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: new kids. Okay, yes, so the first day of school

904
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: he shows up, he meets a fellow hacker named the

905
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: Phantom Freak, and I say, freak. It's a pH r eak.

906
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I love how he introduce this. He's like, I'm the freak,

907
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, the fan of.

908
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: Freak, and I'm ever heard of me?

909
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: Like, like, your secret hacker name? Why are you just

910
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: like you should know me? I'm the secret hacker name

911
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: the freak.

912
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm incredibly impressed. They introduce a person of

913
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: color right up front. I was very happy by that.

914
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Renally Santiago is who plays the Phantom Freak. Okay, but

915
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: he's called that because he's into telephone freaking, which again

916
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: is another fucking old ass way that we used to

917
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: get our kicks back in the fucking day. I mean,

918
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I might even explain to you how it works, because

919
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: again it's probably like on the Wikipedia for it or something.

920
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: But the one thing I will say that's so wild

921
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: coming at it from like a modern perspective, is the

922
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: idea that used to be able to get free phone

923
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: calls by playing the touchtone sounds yes over the phone.

924
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

925
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know how that worked. Still don't understand

926
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 3: the mechanics of that, But I just love that. When

927
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: we first see this character, he's like, why are you

928
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: talking to me? I'm on the phone to Venezuela. Yeah,

929
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: You're like what. So Like, then you see him do

930
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: it and he has a little handheld recorder and he

931
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: plays his tones and is just connected.

932
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I truly cannot believe the entire planet ran on

933
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: that tech. Like, that's so fucking weird to me.

934
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: But makes me sick, makes me sick.

935
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: It was the nineties, right, So. In addition to the

936
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Phantom Freak, Dade also meets a girl named Kate, and

937
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: she is played by the Queen Pixie Cut herself, Angelina Jolie.

938
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: Now Angelina Jolie and Johnny Lee Miller were married. That's

939
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: her first husband. They met on this movie. Okay, and Kate,

940
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: she is swinging a big dick in this school. She

941
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: is definitely the sexiest, most freaky girl in their entire class.

942
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: She wears a lot of like sexy outfits. She has

943
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: a boy a boyfriend who has a motorcycle.

944
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: A lot, a lot of biker jackets.

945
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and Dane is like falls in love with

946
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: her instantly. Okay, as indicated by the inner cut clips

947
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: of sex noises and old cheesecake films. Wonder what these cuts?

948
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: I have to talk about these cuts.

949
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: It's his own nineties, and they thought they were being

950
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: like so prolific, and it's like smash cut, smash cut,

951
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 3: smash cut, smash cut into like five different movie scenes

952
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: and you're like, Okay, he has a crush, we get it.

953
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of that in this movie. Well,

954
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: and actually there's a lot in the first half of

955
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: the movie, and then it kind of goes away after

956
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: a while. So it's like that. It's always kind of

957
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: like a natural Born Killers thing where they're just like

958
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: showing like random clips of things to like describe characters

959
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: and then and then it just sort of stops after

960
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: a while. So I think that's very interesting. But but

961
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: dates in love with her, even though she pranks him

962
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: on the first day by telling him that there's a

963
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: pool on the roof. So but as you'll know, Dade

964
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: gives as good as he gets and you know more

965
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: about that later, obviously. So in the in the mix,

966
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: there are a few more hackers that Dade meets, eventually,

967
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: this guy named Lord Micon who's played by Lawrence Mason.

968
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, just another character of color. I couldn't figure

969
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: out what his deal was. What does he do? I

970
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: don't know what the pot function is.

971
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: Well, they call him Nikon because he has a photographic memory. Okay,

972
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: that's right, but I don't know how that applies to hacking.

973
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: I never quite figured that out, and they never quite explained.

974
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: That, never explained it, okay, thank you, because I was like,

975
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: did I miss something? Or does Lord Mikeon have like

976
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: no real hacking skills. He's just a guy that knows

977
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: a lot and can remember a lot.

978
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: He's their DJ parties.

979
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so it's not very fleshed out, but so

980
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: he he's there, He is there, Lord mike On is there.

981
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: There's another kid named Joey. No, he doesn't have a

982
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: handle yet because he's too young. He's the baby of

983
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: the group, right.

984
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: That's because the freak tells him, you want to be elite,

985
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: you gotta do a righteous hack. Yes, so you can't

986
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: even get a name until you do a righteous hack.

987
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's he's like the rookie, he's got to

988
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: earn his his handle. But he's played by Jesse Bradford,

989
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: who later was in Swim Fan. So it's like has

990
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: like his trajectory of online movies is so wild. I'm

991
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: sure he knows that about himself, but.

992
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's aware.

993
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: But I truly just love that he in this movie

994
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: has a babyface, is wearing braces and constantly smoking cigarette.

995
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: I know I thought about that. She was saying, man,

996
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: I used to smoke while having braces, and that was

997
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: that was a crazy those are that must have been

998
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: a crazy look because I looked at that kid and

999
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he's a chainsmoking kid as braces.

1000
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: Really weird look.

1001
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: Could not get away with it today, could not get

1002
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: away with it today.

1003
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. And then of course you have a hacker

1004
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: by the name of serial Killer and that cereal as

1005
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: in Breakfast. He is played by the absolute nineties ledge

1006
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Lillard, who goes completely for broke in every fucking

1007
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: way in this movie.

1008
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: I you breathe like, I love Matthew Lillard. I think

1009
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: it is fantastic. Yes, this was His character was hilarious.

1010
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 3: He's like an unhoused high school student with a lot

1011
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: of braids and weird glasses, and he talks like a

1012
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties beach bum hippie.

1013
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I loved it.

1014
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: He has a lot of energy in their friend group,

1015
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: like he's he's the one that's kind of he kind

1016
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: of pulls the idea of being a hacker into this

1017
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: like counterculture world. Like his character says that his parents

1018
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: were hippies and stuff, so he's kind of like that guy.

1019
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: He's just like and he likes to speak in these

1020
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: very like psychedelic ways, like he's let's just say this.

1021
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: He wears these crazy ass tiny sunglasses all the time.

1022
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: The braids, the torn up fucking like it's like a

1023
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: weird He's probably got like you know, safety pins like

1024
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: going up the seams of his giant jeans. Everything he

1025
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: wears is like deconstructed and tactical. It's like a mess.

1026
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: Always with like a band T shirt but like like

1027
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: a glittered up band shirt.

1028
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: He is absolutely out of control. Okay, and I'm just

1029
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this right now. So you got the crew,

1030
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: the hack and crew that Dade meets when he when

1031
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: he first comes to his new high school. If you

1032
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: thought the teen lingo and disturbing behavior was bad, have

1033
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: a fucking seat, because the dialogue and Hackers is going

1034
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: to make you pass the fuck out, plain and simple.

1035
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: Chief among them is the idea of the righteous hack,

1036
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: which doesn't like I guess righteous hack indicates that you're

1037
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: stealing money or like shutting down systems.

1038
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: Right. I think a righteous hack is like you have

1039
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: somehow fucked the man or the government, or like an

1040
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: institution of some kind.

1041
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, something that goes above and beyond, like

1042
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: simply chatting about SKA on the internet. I guess it's

1043
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: kind of what that means. But the lingo is so

1044
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: insane in this way, right, And we were alive in

1045
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: ninety five, we were I never recalled saying any of

1046
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: these things.

1047
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: And this is my primary problem with this film is

1048
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 3: it is a yet another movie that is written by

1049
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: adults who think they know what teenagers sound like, and

1050
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: it is nothing like what teenagers like.

1051
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, like like I have never even formed sentences

1052
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: even close to what these kids have said in this movie. Okay,

1053
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: And there's just a lot of that kind of shit

1054
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: tucked in there. Besides the fact that, of course we

1055
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: just talked about it. They rollerblade everywhere. All these kids

1056
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: rollerblade everywhere, even in school, right, I'm just like unreal.

1057
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: And then they hang out after school with this like

1058
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: cyber cafe that is essentially like the Dave and Busters

1059
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: of nerdy early Internet kids, like a video games fucking hacking,

1060
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: fucking raver DJ fucking like it's like all this stuff

1061
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: going on. Like I never hung out at a place

1062
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: like that. That's like, what the fuck is this? I mean, listen,

1063
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: I know New York is fancy, but Jesus.

1064
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: I used to hang out in New York at when

1065
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 2: I was a teenager. This didn't exist.

1066
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: No club had a Starlight Express Rollerblade ramp inside of it.

1067
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't happening.

1068
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, and their school was also like super deconstructed too,

1069
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: like in that way where it's like everyone's wearing raver clothes.

1070
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: Like there's a kid in their English class who's literally

1071
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: wearing like no shirt and a vest. It's it's like

1072
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: shades of Girardo from Can't Buy Me Love, where you're like,

1073
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: how is a kid able to come into the school

1074
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: bare chested and take a class? They would never let

1075
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: this happen even in raver times, do you know what

1076
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, remember this.

1077
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: Is back in the day where like metal detectors were

1078
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: hot shit in New York City schools, and like there

1079
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: were on these kids for everything.

1080
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're able to come in wearing club clothes.

1081
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't it makes like zero sense. Okay, So look,

1082
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: so now Dan's got this new group of friends. They're

1083
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: starting to do righteous hacks together, and like, here's the

1084
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: other part of this movie that's just so outrageous to me. Like, Okay,

1085
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I get that the movies had to figure out how

1086
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: to visualize what the Internet was right in nineteen ninety five,

1087
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: but Jesus Christ, like discuss the graphics of the scrolling

1088
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: numbers and the computer software mazes and the like. People

1089
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: are like typing click clacking on the keyboards and then

1090
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: it's like mathematical formulas just flying through the air around

1091
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: their face.

1092
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: There goes the Pythagorean theorem. There the fuck, You're like,

1093
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: why does this have to do with anything?

1094
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: I know, it's like the idea of entering the Internet,

1095
00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Like entering the Internet was literally that fucking modem sound exactly,

1096
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: That's all it was there was no visual component. There

1097
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. I wasn't stepping into a psychedelic dimension.

1098
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: It was just like waiting for the carr thing to

1099
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: be over.

1100
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: We were not the lawnmower man, like what can flying

1101
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: through numbers and shit?

1102
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: Well and like weirdly enough, so like this whole part

1103
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: to me reminded me of Weird Science, because do you

1104
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: remember in Weird Science when they finally they go through

1105
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: that whole sequence where they're creating the woman and like that,

1106
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: It really looks exactly like that, And that movie was

1107
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: from like ten years before, so I'm like, in that

1108
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: ten years the look of getting on the Internet is

1109
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: exactly the same.

1110
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: Good they just got rid of the grass, Like you

1111
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: don't need the grass, We'll just give him the numbers

1112
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: and the theorems.

1113
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Well, it says just such crazy. It was just such craziness.

1114
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: It's so dated and funny to me. Now let me

1115
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: tell you, now, I gotta move into this part because

1116
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: so their righteous hacking is getting finally gets the attention

1117
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: of this like big bad computer hacker dude who is

1118
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: named the Plague. Okay, he is played by the actor

1119
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: Fisher Stevens, and he is absolutely fucking unhinged in this role.

1120
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: Okay, he is just a free range psychopath inist.

1121
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: He looks like Dave Kahan in the Songs of Faith

1122
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: and Devotion Era in De Peste mode. Okay, he is

1123
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: a grown man who skateboards everywhere. He's wearing trench coats,

1124
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: like my dude is clocking real batman villain ours. Like

1125
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: this entire role for him is so unbelievable.

1126
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: From his entrance on.

1127
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: I am dying laughing every time he's on screen, and

1128
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: I know I'm not supposed to, but I cannot help it.

1129
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: I know, and it's just like you can't help it.

1130
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: It's like every time he's he's on screen, it's ridiculous.

1131
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: It's fucking particulous that his character doesn't even have like

1132
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: one serious moment ever. Okay, Like, I think that the

1133
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: movie is most best known for. There's like clips of

1134
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: this online, the scene where he grabs the floppy disk

1135
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: on a skateboard and then he disappears into a limo.

1136
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: I fell off of my couch when I saw that.

1137
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: I slipped to the goddamn ground because I could not

1138
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: take it anymore.

1139
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: It is the funniest, stupidest thing I've ever seen in

1140
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: a movie. It is so fucking funny.

1141
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, him on that skateboard is the living end.

1142
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I love when when when crimes are are happening

1143
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: with a skateboard, it's like that same from arct Ticket

1144
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: to Hawaii where I don't know if anybody seen that

1145
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: movie where the kid is riding the skateboard upside down,

1146
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: like like, oh my god, I just can't. I love

1147
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: skateboard crime.

1148
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: Skateboard crime, yes.

1149
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: So okay here So Additionally, what's happening is that the

1150
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: plague is trying to close in on these hackers, these

1151
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: teen hackers. Additionally, the government is closing in on them too,

1152
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: including Mark Anthony and Wendell Pierce. I can't believe Wendell

1153
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: Pearce was in this film.

1154
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: Wendell Pierce shows up. He looks like brother Mozone.

1155
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: He looks like a door to door like Nation of

1156
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: Islam salesman exactly. He has taking Nation of Islam door

1157
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: to door and trying to get down the cut down

1158
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: these hackers.

1159
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: When you can fit it.

1160
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: In, I truly cannot. So. Okay, you've got these two Feds,

1161
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: they're on the case. Okay. And then as it turns

1162
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: out Kate, who Date just thought was a hot girl

1163
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: at a school, she's actually a hacker herself and her

1164
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: name is Acid Bird, and turns out her and Crash

1165
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: Override have battled while they were right just hacking each other,

1166
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: so they discovered that, and then what ends up happening

1167
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: is that, like all their friends are starting to get

1168
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: busted because the plague is setting them up to take

1169
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: this fall for this like huge financial scam, So everybody

1170
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: has to work together, even these two crazy lovebirds. They

1171
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: got to work together to help their friends, and with

1172
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: the help of these two Asian guys who host a

1173
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: very popular hacker TV show called Hack the Planet, they

1174
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 1: just might they just might win.

1175
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: But they're not just up against the plague. They're also

1176
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: up against Lorraine Brocco, whose only acting direction in this

1177
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: film was go nuts, just be insane.

1178
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: I still don't really understand her role other than they

1179
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: needed they needed a Natasha to Fisher Stevens's Boris. I

1180
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: don't really know why she's there.

1181
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: She doesn't know why she's there. She's Loraine fucking Braco.

1182
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I do in here.

1183
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: It's very very unclear. Listen, I'm not gonna give away

1184
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: the ending to this movie, but I will say there's

1185
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: a sequence towards the end where the hackers are battling

1186
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: Fisher Stevens Penjolette, who was also involved somehow in this

1187
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: criminal underworld. So it's like the hackers are fighting like

1188
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: Pendolet and Fisher Stevens in this like giant, like Layer,

1189
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: this like bad Batman villain guy Layer, and it is

1190
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: so goddamn funny. Everyone is acting like they're in hop

1191
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: gun or some shit. It's like and then I won't

1192
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: tell you why or how this happens, but at some

1193
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: point Crash Override Slash Dade screams hacked the Planet from

1194
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: the back of a cop car onto the streets from

1195
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: New York and it is so ridiculous.

1196
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: Well, I again lost it. I lost it. They're trashing it.

1197
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: Heck the planet.

1198
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Matthew Lord in this part is so fucking funny, like

1199
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: that moment of like enthusiasm to like heck the planet. Yeah,

1200
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: and then he's like pumping his fist in the air

1201
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: on the street like yeah, and.

1202
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely no one knows what he's saying. The rest of

1203
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 3: the crowd is like, what the fuck is going on?

1204
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: Was this just high drugged out cad being loaded into

1205
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: a car screaming us, shit, we don't understand because we

1206
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 3: have not had the Internet put in our homes yet.

1207
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1208
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: Holy well.

1209
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: And then here's the thing about this movie. I will

1210
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: say to you know inclosing, it's not this movie didn't

1211
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: completely bomb. It wasn't like this movie didn't. It was

1212
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: sort of well received to me. Fucking Roger Ebert gave

1213
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: it three out of four stars. It's like, so people

1214
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: sort of liked this movie. I think it's just because

1215
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: it's so dated that people have begun to cringe at it,

1216
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: which of course means that becomes a cult classic. Okay, So, like,

1217
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: it's so strange how that the trajectory of this film

1218
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: really in that way. But it's like, honestly, dude, like

1219
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: I am so happy that I made you watch it.

1220
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what you were thinking. I just

1221
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: can't even imagine.

1222
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: I was cringing so hard, I was folded over at

1223
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: some point, I was touching my damn toes.

1224
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: I was laughing my ass off. This is a truly

1225
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: funny movie because of the dating of it.

1226
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: But because it was bringing back memories of that time. Too,

1227
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: like I love it early nineties, mid nineties New York.

1228
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: It was just so funny, unintentionally so, but so funny

1229
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: to me. And I just it was a mess. It

1230
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 3: was a mess of a movie. Yeah, and I love

1231
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 3: a mess. I love a mess sometimes. I also love

1232
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: There's a scene where the Jesse Bradford character gets like

1233
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 3: questioned by the cops and then he's released and he

1234
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: has to go to like a twelve step group. But

1235
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 3: when the freak gets arrested, he goes to like OZ,

1236
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the hell.

1237
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: Is this discrepancy going on here?

1238
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: They're both the same age, apparently, why is the brown

1239
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 3: kid got to go to fucking OZ?

1240
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: I know that was there was like very I was

1241
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: very unclear about the jails situations for.

1242
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: These folks, Like none of it made sense. Oh what

1243
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 3: a mess, What a beautiful, hilarious mess. And I know

1244
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: you read there has to be an oral history of

1245
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: this movie.

1246
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: I will say this. I posted this in our slack

1247
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: because there was an oral history about the soundtrack, which

1248
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: was actually kind of interesting. I mean, I have to

1249
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: say just based on like the music of the time,

1250
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: did not find one yet on the movie. But I

1251
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: am fucking certain it's out there. Like I'm certain somebody

1252
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: from our generation was like, let's get the old gang

1253
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: back together, Like, let's let's get these folks in a

1254
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: room and have them talk about this fucked up nineties

1255
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: internet movie.

1256
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: I guarantee there isn't one, because absolutely all of them

1257
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: were like, please, don't bring take that off my resume,

1258
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: don't even bring it up.

1259
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: Do not even raise the question of this film.

1260
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I should have like went down the

1261
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: research hole where I wanted to see if Angelina has

1262
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: talked about it, I will.

1263
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: I will give you five dollars if she has good

1264
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: or bad, just if she's mentioned it at all, I

1265
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 3: will give.

1266
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: You five dollars.

1267
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: I will hack into your bank account and remove the

1268
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: five dollars.

1269
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: About your film and both of our films. Is like,

1270
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: so much of hacking was about stealing money.

1271
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm like, what do you expect to happen?

1272
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: You're stealing tens of thousands of dollars all the time.

1273
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: I know. It's like I can't believe we got bus

1274
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, maybe because you just funneled twenty five

1275
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: million dollars to yourself.

1276
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 3: Like start small, start with a hundred like you don't

1277
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 3: need to go that hard Jesus.

1278
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: Ah.

1279
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: Well, look, I have to say your film this week

1280
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: really puts me in this beautiful place of youth, and

1281
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear you talk about it honestly.

1282
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to tell you all about it because

1283
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 3: my movie is from nineteen ninety two. This screenplay is

1284
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 3: by Phil Alden Robinson, Lawrence Lasker, and Walter Parks. It

1285
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: was directed by Phil Alden Robinson. And my movie is Sneakers.

1286
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: So people hire you to break into that places to

1287
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: make sure no one can break into that places.

1288
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: Not a very good one, get it, Because they like

1289
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: sneak into the internet, take a shit, They sneak around.

1290
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 3: They had that cartoon cartoon sneaky sound don't, don't, don't,

1291
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 3: dont don't, don't, don't whenever they walk anywhere. My movie

1292
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 3: if your If your film was the first computer movie

1293
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: for young nerds. I think mine was the first for

1294
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: old nerds. Yes, my people who used to work on

1295
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 3: computers when computers were the size of a living room.

1296
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: Yes.

1297
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: My one sentence synopsis of Sneakers is that a group

1298
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: of professional hackers bands together to take down Arrival after

1299
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 3: one of them is swindled into stealing and then giving

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: away tech that could eradicate the free world.

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: So right away I have to mention the cast, because

1303
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 3: the cast is incredible.

1304
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: You've got Robert.

1305
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: Redford playing Bishop, Sidney Poitier plays Crease, David Trethirne is Whistler,

1306
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: Dan Ackroyd is Mother, River, Phoenix is Carl, Mary McDonald

1307
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 3: plays Liz. You have a very very young body Elfman

1308
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: playing a security guard. Smoovie has everything. And let's not

1309
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: also forget quintessential. Donald Logue is playing doctor Guntur Janek.

1310
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: I fucking love Donald Logue.

1311
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: I love him. I don't know why. I can't explain it.

1312
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: No, he's fucking funny as shit like. And this is

1313
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna date us obviously. But remember the kid Jimmy the

1314
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: cab driver ads on MTV.

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01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, like the ing dang dung dang.

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, as a taxi driver, it's a paint in

1317
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: the ass. You're coming down the road.

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: These guys take up the middle, they park. You got

1319
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: sixty kids looking for a sucker pop as something. You know, Hey,

1320
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: you know I got a cab. I gotta fe you know,

1321
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: But the kids like the rice cream. You let him

1322
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: have their ice cream.

1323
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: That's where I fucking that's how I discovered him. I

1324
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: thought that shit was the funniest shit ever. Absolutely, yes,

1325
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Like they have they have clips of it on YouTube.

1326
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Donald Low doing that Jimmy the

1327
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: Cab Driver character. There were like these spots for MTV

1328
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: that they would play, you know, like as bumpers and

1329
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: stuff before the videos, and it is fucking amazing and

1330
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: weirdest part too, is that that that's when he was

1331
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: probably on MTV is when this movie came out, right.

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not too long after because he was

1333
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: really his career really kickstarted after the Jimmy the Cab

1334
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: Driver stuff, I think, yeah, and he was like suddenly

1335
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 3: everywhere after that. So he was in this movie and

1336
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's so I just I just get

1337
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 3: very excited when I see him on the screen. I

1338
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: just really like him as an actor. I know you

1339
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: haven't watched it yet, but he is in this last

1340
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: season of What We Do in the Shadows.

1341
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: Shit, I gotta watch it. It's because great. I'm like,

1342
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: do you remember when do you remember when he was

1343
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: in Terriors that show? Yeah, very brief man, that shit

1344
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: was so fucking shit was so good and they fucking

1345
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: cancel it so soon. Oh, such trash these TV networks. Sometimes.

1346
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: One thing that's interesting to me about this movie is

1347
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: I feel like the opening is a nod to Three

1348
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,919
Speaker 3: Days of the Condor.

1349
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: See. I was wondering that too, right.

1350
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's Robert Redford and his friend Cosmo and

1351
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: they're hacking in a you know, in a college lab

1352
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 3: and he just misses. The Robert Redford character, Bishop just

1353
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: misses getting arrested because he goes out for pa Yeah,

1354
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: and his friend gets taken into custody.

1355
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I thought that to you. I was like, oh,

1356
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: here's another movie Robert Redford goes out for food and

1357
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: then something bad happens.

1358
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: And I love it. I love the nod yet into it.

1359
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: So we're catching up with Bishop much later in life,

1360
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: like forty years later, and now he's he's the head

1361
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 3: of this group of former criminals essentially who break into

1362
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 3: places to prove what their vulnerabilities are. So they're all

1363
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: like the Fisher Stevens and hackers of this world. Like

1364
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: they're like, we're gonna bust into your shit to prove

1365
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 3: that we can bust in and then help you fix it.

1366
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: So Martin Bishop is a top dog.

1367
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: Chrise.

1368
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: Sidney Poitier is this former CIA agent mother is this

1369
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist. I thought this is one of the movies

1370
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 3: where Dan Ackroyd was used sparingly and perfectly, like he

1371
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 3: never became annoying, he never the game too much. He

1372
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: was just great. Then you have again Whistler Irwin, who's

1373
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: like this visually impaired genius. I again, always love seeing

1374
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: Davis Rathan on screen.

1375
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh my God, loves him.

1376
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: I love him so much.

1377
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 3: Poor River Phoenix Carl is like this teenage criminal who

1378
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 3: plays kind of the same character he plays and I

1379
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 3: love you to death, where he's just like this sweet

1380
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: little weirdo. Then Liz is Martin's brilliant former girlfriend who

1381
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: is fed up with everyone's shit.

1382
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 2: But it's a great cast. It is a really great ensemble.

1383
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1384
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 3: And in the beginning where we're watching them, we're kind

1385
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 3: of learning how this group operates. They introduce us to

1386
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 3: this group of characters by watching them break into a bank,

1387
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 3: and there's this incredibly funny scene in the beginning where Carl,

1388
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: the River Phoenix character is like dressed in the black

1389
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 3: turtleneck with the black hat, and he's starting to put

1390
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: black stuff on his face to like shield him, and

1391
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: Sydney Poccier just comes up and looks at him, like,

1392
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing?

1393
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: I know, I noticed that the.

1394
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: Look is everything. It cracks me up.

1395
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: So these guys you're just like kind of in the

1396
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 3: beginning of the movie just learning their personalities, and it's

1397
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: really funny, subtle humor, Like they're just kind of having

1398
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: these like jokes and one liners and it's but it's

1399
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: very subtle and funny. And Robert Redford is incredibly great

1400
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,440
Speaker 3: in this movie. I thought he was just wonderful.

1401
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember we had to write that wrong of that,

1402
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: we had to find a movie where Robert Redford was

1403
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: charming and wonderful and not an asshole.

1404
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: This is it.

1405
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta tell you, like he like.

1406
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: This movie was for me for like from my memory

1407
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: as a child. Was sandwiched in between Legal Eagles, which

1408
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: was pretty much the first time I even knew who

1409
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: Robert Redford was because I was like, who is this

1410
01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: handsome blonde?

1411
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: You know what it is?

1412
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: So there was Legal Eagles and then up close and Personal.

1413
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh after which was another like romance where I was like,

1414
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's so handsome. So it's like whatever

1415
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: I do think about, like the warm failings of Robert Redford,

1416
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: it's that arc of like legal Eagles took up close

1417
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: and personal. And so now you know, as I've gotten

1418
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: older and I've seen all these other movies of his,

1419
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, he played a lot of

1420
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: like you know what, bad guy, bad blonde guy roles,

1421
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 1: but this movie, he's so cute.

1422
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 3: He is sweet, sweet, a sweet tender man who loves

1423
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: his crew of criminals and just is trying to really

1424
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 3: fly under the radar because, as we learned later in

1425
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 3: the film, after Cosmo got arrested, he had to flee

1426
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 3: to Canada and change his name. So his real name

1427
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 3: is Martin Bryce, but he has changed it to Bishop

1428
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: and then came back into the US where these now

1429
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 3: these two guys are going to use that information against him.

1430
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: So at one point, and they're in this like they

1431
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 3: work out of this kind of like cool loft space

1432
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: and they're all just kind of free and fun and weird,

1433
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: and I just thought that looks like it could be

1434
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: so much fun.

1435
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to hang at the Sneakers Loft.

1436
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: I just like dream House is the Sneakers Lost.

1437
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it's just like such a cool, such

1438
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: a cool area. Like the scene where they have that

1439
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: party there is so off. I'm like, I don't want

1440
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: to go to the Sneakers party at the Sneakers Loft.

1441
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: That party, the dance scene is amazing. We're going to

1442
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: get to it in one second. Yeah, because it's one

1443
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: of the things I love the most about this movie.

1444
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: Even though it's quick, I love it.

1445
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: So they do this job, you get to see how

1446
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: they work, and then Martin comes back to the office

1447
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: and there's these two guys.

1448
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: One of them is Timothy Busfield.

1449
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 3: Which always means bad news. Always singles bad news. When

1450
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 3: Timothy Busfield's on the scene, shit's going down. So these

1451
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: two guys come in and they say they're in the

1452
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 3: NSA and they want to hire Bishop for this job.

1453
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't want to do that job.

1454
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't work for the government.

1455
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, come on, just like you know,

1456
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: you got to steal some tech from this math prodigy

1457
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: who's suddenly getting a bunch of funding from Russia. And

1458
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: that's the Donalalote character and he's like, no, I don't

1459
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: want to for the government. But then they show him

1460
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 3: an FBI poster with his real name on it, so

1461
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 3: he's like, fuck, they know who I am. So he caves,

1462
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: and then he convinces the crew to cave because they're like,

1463
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: all right, we'll do it for the money. And the

1464
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: way they get this box is so funny and weird

1465
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: and hilarious and sweet. But the funniest part of it

1466
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: to me is that their biggest obstacle is an electronic

1467
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:47,839
Speaker 3: keypad on a door. Like they have bugged the apartment,

1468
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: they have put in the cameras, they have done everything.

1469
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 3: And then he gets ready to get into the office

1470
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, there's an electronic keypad on the door.

1471
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. How am I gonna get around

1472
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 3: this shit? Yeah, because tech a keypad.

1473
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: Could thwart your imission.

1474
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple. I mean, as much as I

1475
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: love this movie, I mean there's a couple of womans

1476
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: who are like, hmm, okay, I guess I'll buy that.

1477
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: Like they're like, they can't they can hack telephones around

1478
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: the world, but they can't open a fucking keypad because

1479
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm sitting. Poiti's character is like, Nope, can't be done,

1480
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: Like can't.

1481
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: You just got to kick it in that's the only

1482
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: way to do it. That's right.

1483
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 3: It's hilarious, but again old tech makes me stick to

1484
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 3: my stomach. So they get the box and then they

1485
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 3: have a little party and they have this dance scene

1486
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 3: and it's basically Mary McDonald, who's not part of the crew.

1487
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: She's she's just kind of like Martin's ex and she's

1488
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 3: smart and they need her help, but.

1489
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: She's not really like she doesn't work for them.

1490
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 3: But she's at this party and she is dancing with

1491
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 3: everyone and it is so adorable. She I mean, just

1492
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 3: to see Sydney Potier dance always makes me happy. But

1493
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 3: everyone has their own style, and David Tretherne is.

1494
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: Going balls to the wall.

1495
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 3: He's like, I will not have rhythm, I will not

1496
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 3: have any kind of moves. But it's a very very

1497
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: sweet party until Whistler realizes something's wrong. So we get

1498
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: three important pieces of information in this party scene. The

1499
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: first important piece of information is we find out that

1500
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: Cosmo died in prison, So this is the guilt that

1501
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: Martin has been carrying with him the whole time. We

1502
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 3: also get to hear them all say what they want

1503
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 3: to do with their part of this big paycheck, and

1504
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 3: then Irwin realizes that there's something up with the box.

1505
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 3: At the same time, Martin realizes that the company see

1506
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 3: tech Astronomy is an anagram for too many secrets and

1507
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 3: it's not a real company at all.

1508
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: That's right. There's that whole like Rosemary's baby Ish Seed

1509
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: with the scrabble tiles, where they're like, oh, what's the

1510
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: seit extrenomy? What could this be? Like blah blah blah

1511
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,839
Speaker 1: blah blah, and they're just like moving the tiles around,

1512
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: you know.

1513
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: And at one points, like Mary McDonald's spells at like

1514
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 3: cootie balls like.

1515
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, ras semens something like that, and he just Robert

1516
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 4: Redford just looks at her like a serious But what

1517
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 4: they realize is that this box that they have is

1518
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: the ultimate code breaker.

1519
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: They can break into any system, they can break into

1520
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: air air.

1521
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: Traffic, they can break into Fort Knox, they can break

1522
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: into anything. This box is a key. And this mathematician

1523
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 3: figured it out. And that's probably why he was talking

1524
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 3: to Russia because he was going to consider selling it

1525
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 3: to Russia. So they're all freaked out about the box.

1526
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:57,879
Speaker 3: They decide to deliver it anyway, and as they're delivering it,

1527
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: it's crease. Sydney Potier realizes these guys are not from

1528
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 3: the NSA because he just found finds out that the

1529
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: mathematician Donald Logue was murdered, so he's like, oh fuck,

1530
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 3: so he calls Redford back to the car.

1531
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: They speed away. Martin gets duped again, but now the.

1532
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 3: Race is on to stop this box from falling into

1533
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 3: the wrong hands, even though they don't have possession of

1534
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 3: the box.

1535
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: So Martin gets kidnapped. He's framed for a murder.

1536
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: He meets up with someone thought to be dead, but

1537
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 3: it's not dead because Cosmo comes out of the woodwork

1538
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 3: and is like, guess who's behind this whole thing, bitch,

1539
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: And they have a little meeting and Ben Kingsley plays

1540
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Cosmo and he is fucking hilarious in this role.

1541
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: Okay, so I for I swear to God. I mean,

1542
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie several times. I haven't seen it

1543
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: in a while, but I forgot that it's Ben Kingsley,

1544
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: And at first I thought it was Ben Gazera a like,

1545
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: because when when he first pops up, I'm like, yoh,

1546
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: is that Ben Gazera. But then I'm like, no, I

1547
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: think that's not I think it's I think it's the other.

1548
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Ben, the other famous Ben.

1549
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ben, he's such a little creep in this movie.

1550
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: Ugh, it's hilarious because he's so gross and like he's

1551
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 3: got that that half ponytail thing. Yes, Oh, it's so hilarious.

1552
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 3: He's he's wonderful, wonderful in this role. But now he

1553
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: and Martin are kind of like having a little tete

1554
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 3: of tent and then all hell breaks this. I don't

1555
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: want to ruin the end of the movie for you,

1556
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: but all hell absolutely breaks loose, and it is absolutely

1557
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: hilarious and wonderful, and I just it's this is such

1558
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: a fun tech movie because it's like so much about

1559
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: the relationships between the people who are performing the crimes.

1560
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: And I kind of love that.

1561
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: I too obsessed with. Like I think we talked about

1562
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: this when we did Thief, the James Call movie Thief,

1563
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: where a lot of this. A lot of what I

1564
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: love about this movie is that it's like a lot

1565
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: of like watching people like do their job type of thing,

1566
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: and I love like specialized people in a crew, right,

1567
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: So it's like you've got like Dan Ackroyd, he's kind

1568
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: of like the phone guy, and then you got like

1569
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Sidney Poitier, he's kind of like the ex mill the

1570
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: CIA government guy. And then you know, so every like

1571
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Whistler is obviously the sound guy, but there's like a

1572
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of like everybody's got their own role and then

1573
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: they all kind of come together and they work together,

1574
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: and that awesome loft. I can't get over the hack,

1575
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: the Sneaker's loft, and I just like that to me

1576
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: is fascinating when they're just sort of like doing and

1577
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: the tech is obviously so old, like so.

1578
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 3: Old, but not overused in the way that it was

1579
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 3: overused in hackers.

1580
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Yes, Like there's this sequence where there's a sequence where

1581
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Martin is on he's trying to call into this like

1582
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: you know the person who's like really really wants the box, right,

1583
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: and it's and he's basically like, if I do a

1584
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: deal with you, will you offer me protection? Like how

1585
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: do I know? And they have this whole thing where

1586
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: so Whistler traces the phone call and of course the

1587
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: tech is fucking terrible. It's like Commodore sixty four like

1588
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: map of the world where the call is being shocked

1589
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 1: to all these different countries, and then they have, uh,

1590
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: the dad awkward character puts a polygraph on the phone

1591
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: line to see if the caller is lying, and I'm like.

1592
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 5: What had happened, Especially in the early nineties, could you

1593
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 5: polygraph through a telephone and guess whether somebody was lying?

1594
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: Like they basically work with your body's pulse and heat.

1595
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 3: Is like, even though it's a now debunked science, if

1596
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 3: it was going to work at all, your body has

1597
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 3: to be there.

1598
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: Yes, Like they're trying to figure out if your heart

1599
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 1: rate is fast, not if your voice is weird.

1600
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: These these nerves have figured out a new way to

1601
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 3: use a polygraph, and then they all panicked.

1602
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: They're like, hang up, he's lying.

1603
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very very tense scene, very tense scene.

1604
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Hang he's lying. Oh God.

1605
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 3: It's so and it's so funny because this movie is

1606
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 3: set in San Francisco, but it's like a pre Internet

1607
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 3: boom San Francisco yep, So you kind of get the

1608
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 3: the seeds of what's to come from these people kind

1609
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 3: of setting up shop in old San Francisco, and it's

1610
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: kind of fun to see the bridges and like, I

1611
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 3: don't know, I used to live in San Francisco and

1612
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

1613
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: But I just love seeing that old, that old, old

1614
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: part of the city.

1615
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: But it's just it's very it's an intriguing movie. It's

1616
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: not too overwrought, it's not too convoluted. The tech will

1617
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 3: make you sick to your stomach, but it's hilarious and

1618
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: it's just a really fun movie where you get to

1619
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 3: see people be very good at their jobs and try

1620
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: to thwart the bad guys. And at the end, I

1621
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 3: don't want to spoil it, but some parts of that prophecy,

1622
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: this prophecies that they laid out the party come true.

1623
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I oh my god, this movie reminds me of

1624
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: being a kid. It was like again, I had the

1625
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: warm feelings for Robert Redford being a handsome older man.

1626
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: I also loved Sidney Poitier, Like, I mean, god, such

1627
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: a good pairing. Actually to have Redford and Poitier in

1628
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the movie, because it's just kind of like the two

1629
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: older Hollywood actors that are kind of having to be

1630
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: a part of this ensemble cast is like so cool.

1631
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 3: And they both kind of played different sides of the coin,

1632
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 3: like Robert Redford's kind of like the cool, chilled out

1633
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 3: one and Sydney Potti is like the fed up over

1634
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 3: It's really sweet to see them interact.

1635
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: I know, it's really great. And then you have like, I, okay,

1636
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: you know I was all up on that Memphis bell shit,

1637
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: so you know, I knew who day Vid Stratharn was.

1638
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: And he's playing I feel like, in a weird way,

1639
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: kind of a like a role that's a lot different

1640
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: for him because he was always playing like stern military

1641
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: or police people for a long time. But then he's

1642
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: just like a goofball, which is so cute. And the

1643
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: and the scene where they let him drive, yes, so good.

1644
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: Oh good.

1645
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: And this is the other thing, Like the nineties obviously

1646
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 3: not always sensitive to people with any kind of disability.

1647
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 3: So the fact that he's playing this visually impaired person

1648
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 3: and they're not making that the butt of the joke

1649
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like folded in in a way

1650
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 3: that makes sense, was ahead of its time.

1651
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1652
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, he's like a fully integrated member of their crew,

1653
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's I think part of what I

1654
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: love about it is that it's like a team that's

1655
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: working together and they care about each other, and then

1656
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: you know they're they're trying to like clear their name

1657
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, which I guess that has something in common

1658
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: with my movie too. But I don't know why this

1659
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: movie is so charming to me, because it's just like,

1660
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think for like a spice roller.

1661
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: It really has this like warm and fuzzy glow to it.

1662
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1663
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 3: Yes, because yeah, it's something we don't talk about a lot.

1664
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 3: But I think the music also plays a big.

1665
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Part in that.

1666
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,919
Speaker 1: Yes, And there's like a couple of good dad jokes.

1667
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: It's real gentle, you know. You got people who are

1668
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: not like over the top acting. Everyone is real, even keeled,

1669
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: a lot of professionals, you know. And I'm just like,

1670
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: I fucking love this movie. It's so cozy.

1671
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know it is.

1672
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: It's cozy as hell, and I just I'm so glad

1673
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: we got to watch it and pair it up in

1674
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 3: this hang of the phone.

1675
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 2: I need to use the Internet theme because it's the

1676
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: first thing I thought of.

1677
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm just so happy that I got to

1678
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: watch it again, so thank you. I don't know if

1679
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: it's a Christmas movie, I don't. I couldn't tell him

1680
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: it was that party was a Christmas party because I

1681
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: was like, listen, you got some Garland here. I don't

1682
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: know what we're thinking about this, but the lights up.

1683
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, hard to say. I actually that would be

1684
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: weird too if it would be like related to Three

1685
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: Days of the Communes subtly a subtle Christmas movie. Who knows.

1686
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: But damn, I'm so glad that I got to talk

1687
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: to you about these movies this week because I'm talking

1688
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: about the old days. The Internet is really fun and

1689
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: funny to me, and you know, having having the notion

1690
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: that we technically met off the internet makes it even better.

1691
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: So it's so great.

1692
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that we're friends, that we found each

1693
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 3: other through our nerdery.

1694
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and I'm gonna say this on record. I

1695
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 1: fucking miss live journal that that was those That was

1696
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: a fun moment in time.

1697
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 2: So that error was hilarious.

1698
01:31:54,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, okay, if you want and only if

1699
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: you want to email us, if you want to send

1700
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,680
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1701
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,840
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1702
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,880
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1703
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,559
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1704
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,000
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1705
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1706
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1707
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1709
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1710
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1712
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,160
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1713
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be above it, yes, Like did they just

1714
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 3: put a black box with an I Saw what you Did?

1715
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1716
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: People come in to your asse are like, what the

1717
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,839
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1718
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:06,759
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1719
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1720
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1721
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Speaker 1: If you want even more of Danielle and I, you're

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Speaker 1: in luck because we are rolling out some of our

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Speaker 1: prior bonus episodes from the vaults. They will be showing

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Speaker 1: up in the main feed every so often on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so check us out there, and we will also be

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Speaker 1: releasing brand new bonus episodes the third Thursday of every month,

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Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that too.

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Speaker 3: So check our feed on Wednesdays and Thursdays for bonus

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Speaker 3: and Tuesdays for regular episodes. You're gonna get so much

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Speaker 3: of us, it's gonna be great. Do you want to

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Speaker 3: tell them what the movies are for next mont? My?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Do I?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So movies for our next episode are The Machinist

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Speaker 1: from two thousand and four and American Psycho for two thousand.

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Speaker 2: I mean, try to guess that theme.

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Speaker 1: Try.

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Speaker 3: We know what you're gonna try to do the first

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Speaker 3: We know what you're gonna say the first attempt, but

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Speaker 3: just think of who we are and then try to

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Speaker 3: think of.

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Speaker 2: Would be Yes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and as always, Danielle, fucking pleasure doing this podcast

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: The best, the best.

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Speaker 3: Let's go elect cute our faces and report back next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll do see you next time, everyone.

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Speaker 3: But this has been an exactly right production. Produced by

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Speaker 3: Casey O'Brien, mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is

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Speaker 3: by Tom bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive

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Speaker 3: producers are Georgia Hart, Start caringkil Gareff, and Daniel Kramer.

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Speaker 3: You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at I

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Speaker 3: Saw pod, and you can email us at I Saw

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Speaker 3: What You Did Pod at gmail