WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Bad Moon Rising 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.640 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:14.920 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I See the Bad Moon arising. Addition, 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.120 as the Bengals lose their sensational rookie quarterback Joe Burrow 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.200 for the rest of the twenty twenty season. Coming up, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:26.119 you'll hear radio replay from Sunday's loss in Washington, postgame 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.600 comments from players and coaches, and in depth analysis from 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.160 Dave Lapham. And in this week's fun fact segment, you'll 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.360 get to know the person under the pads as I 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:40.000 go one on one with defensive lineman Xavier Williams. 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They 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.840 started at their own twenty five, drove to the Washington three, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.360 and came up empty when they went for it on 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.880 fourth and goal, and Joe Burrow fumbled after being hit 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.320 by Chase Young while trying to scramble into the end zone. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.720 After two drives, they had one hundred forty four yards 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.880 and no points, But the third time was the charm 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.080 second out and goal from the four for Cincinnati. Burrow 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.280 is under center now p Ryan is the running back. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.000 Burrow fakes a hold off throws before getting hit right 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:32.920 caught hey j Green touchdown Cincinnati as Adriel Cheryl Maiah 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.040 Green finds the end zone for the first time in 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.480 seven hundred and fifty six days and first touchdown passed 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.520 between Joe Burrow and AJ Green. Obviously, and Burrow get 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.480 rid of the football with a player defensive player draped 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.359 on his legs. AJ Green just stays with it. Joe 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.720 Burrow throws the ball in a tight window and that's 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.480 with a defensive player at his legs. He delivers that 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.760 football just before being taken to the ground. Tremendous effort 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:04.600 by career touchdown catch number sixty four for AJ Green, 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:10.519 just two behind Chad Johnson's franchise record. Unfortunately, Bullock missed 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.800 the extra point and the Bengals trailed seven to six, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.880 but Randy atoned late in the half from long distance 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.639 as long as fifty five so his leg is strong enough. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.680 Here comes the swing of the leg. This kick looks good, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:29.880 and it is good. Randy Bullock comes through from fifty 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.400 three yards away and the Bengals take the lead nine 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.320 to seven with one thirty nine left in the half. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.000 The Bengals got the ball back on a Jesse Bates 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.640 interception and had a chance to score again on the 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.160 final play of the half, but Bullock's fifty eight yard 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.680 field goal try, which would have been a new club record, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.800 hit the right upright and the Bengals went to the 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:55.200 locker room up nine to seven. Burrow was fantastic in 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.320 the first half, going twenty one for twenty nine for 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.200 one hundred and ninety five yards, the one touchdown and 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.240 a passer rating of one oh one point nine. Unfortunately, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.680 less than four minutes into the second half, his rookie 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.760 season came to an end. Third down and three, the 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.320 Bengals at their own nine. They have three receivers in 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.080 a tight cluster to the right, close to the right tackle, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.400 single receiver out to the left. Drew Sample Burrow back 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.680 to throw from the two loops at high down field. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.600 Sleeping attempt by Boyd broken up by Fuller and after 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.400 gaining seven yards in the first play chart, Burrow is down. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.040 He's grabbing his left knee and he's in pain. Oh God, Alan, 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.680 I think put the hit on him. And Joe Burrow 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.520 released this football they brought. They had seven up at 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.200 the line of scrimmage. Giovanni Bernard went up to the 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.520 line of scrimmage and picked up his rusher and blitz pickup. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.200 Finley's gonna have to get ready in a hurry. Looks 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.359 like Joe Burrow's in trouble. The biggest nightmare for Bengals 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.680 fans this season was an injury to rookie quarterback Joe Burrow, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.719 and he was and serious pain at the end of 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.200 that play, reaching for his left knee. Burrow was taken 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.680 off the field on a cart and before the game 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.560 was finished, sent out a tweet with a following message, 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.800 thanks for all the love. Can't get rid of me 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:19.320 that easy, SIA next year. With his left leg planted 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.640 after making a throw, Burrow got hit just above the 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.000 left knee, causing it to cave inward. It wasn't a 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.600 dirty play. The lineman trying to get to him was 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.479 falling forward while battling with left guard Michael Jordan, and 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.600 they wound up crashing into the Bengals quarterback. CBS elected 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.080 not to show a replay. The Bengals were understandably shaken 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.560 and played poorly the rest of the game as Washington 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:49.599 scored thirteen unanswered points to win twenty to nine. Backup 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.520 quarterback Ryan Finley struggled. He went three for ten with 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.840 one interception for a passer rating of zero and got 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:02.240 sacked four times. Here are Zach Taylor and Ryan Finley 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.159 to who's your quarterback? Is tough, but that's that's the 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.039 way it goes, you know, and next man up and Finley. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.919 Finley came up and we got to help him and 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.640 I gotta call put him in some better situations there, 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.280 um to give him some confidence going early, and we 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.159 just didn't get it done all the way around. Obviously, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.320 my thoughts right now are with Joe and just um 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.200 hoping he's gonna be okay and I have a speedy recovery. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.680 That was that was tough to see. So we've grown close. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.760 That was that was hard to see, but um, you know, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.839 I gotta be ready. That's my role. So UM, I 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.760 got a week to get a lot better, um and 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:36.919 be able to put this team in a position a 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.680 one football game. So that's kind of one of my 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.080 mind's up. Joe Burrow is not sacked on Sunday and 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.159 wound up being sacked thirty two times this year. Only 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.400 Carson Wentz with forty and Russell Wilson with thirty three 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.839 have been sacked more often Burrow was hit roughly eighty times. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.160 After the games, Zach Taylor was asked if he could 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.279 have done more to protect his quarterback this season. All 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.839 we can do is make progress. This is this season, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.760 and we gave up a lot of pressure early in 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.120 the season. In these last couple of weeks, our guys 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.280 have done a great job of keeping people off Joe. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.039 He's had a great pocket. You know, he did not 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.800 have a sack in the first half, and the hit, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.800 as I saw it wasn't when he had the ball 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.160 in his hand. And so, you know, people keep talking 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.760 about the offensive line without it seemingly watching the film 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.240 from the last four weeks, and so again, those guys 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.840 have done a good job. It's been a revolving door 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.520 of players. They're doing a great job. Joe's done a 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.400 good job moving down the field, and we felt like 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.880 we were making a lot of progress over the last 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.960 five weeks. And we're not gonna apologize for any of that. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.240 After the game, the NFL networks ian Rappaport tweeted that 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.240 Burrows suffered a torn acl based on the initial diagnosis, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.520 with the possibility of additional damage. So Burrow finished his 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.640 rookie year by completing sixty five percent of his passes 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.760 with thirteen touchdowns, five interceptions, and a passer rating of 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.480 eighty nine point eight. He averaged two hundred and sixty 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.080 nine passing yards per game. Here are teammates Ryan Finley, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.640 Karl Lawson, and AJ Green. You know, I talked with him. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.360 I sat with him for for a little bit. Um. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.200 I didn't really have many words. I didn't know what 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:13.720 to say, um, other than um, you know, I hope 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.920 he recovers very soon because he's a he's a hell 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.120 of a player, and it's been it's been a lot 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.960 of fun watching him play, um, you know, this first 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.000 half of the season. So I'm excited for when he's back. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.800 You could tell just the way he carries himself, his 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.920 or Um, he's just trying to get better. I mean 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.640 after the Ravels game, he was like, yeah, that's that's 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.680 never gonna happen on me, Like, you know, he's damn 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.400 you're crying because he didn't feel like he played that well. Um. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.280 And and that's something I can relate to because that's 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.480 kind of that's how I am. So I no doubt 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.080 in my mind that dudes will be okay. And he 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.680 just a guys. Guys man, He just just wanting to guys, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.320 you know. Just that's the biggest in front of union. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.160 You see these quarterbacks at number one, they don't talk 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.480 pilos like quiet, but Joe is a guy. Guy. That's 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.040 the guy that you want in the huddle with them. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.160 He was obviously a devastating blow for Zach Taylor, who 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.320 was tasked with developing the number one pick in this 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.880 year's draft. He handled everything like a professional from day one, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.640 and to be voted to captain just speaks everything you 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.600 need to know about the guy. And that the players 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.640 have responded to him, the coaches have responded to him, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.920 the city has responded to him, and all that is 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.120 equally as important, you know. And so again he energizes 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.880 this team and and you know, he's been a tremendous 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.719 player everything we hoped he'd be. And we'll get him 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.360 back at some point, you know, we don't know when 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.000 that is. But for now, we got we gotta transform 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.520 that energy and put it somewhere else in this team. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.319 But again, we got plenty of guys we can rely on. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.680 I thought our defense showed us some really good stuff today. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.439 In some areas we didn't do enough in the second 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.400 half on offense, you know, so they got us some 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.360 stops where you got you gotta transfer that and you're 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.720 having to score points and regained that momentum, and we 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.560 didn't do that today. And so again it was just 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.080 we weren't solid enough in all three phases to come 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.920 out of here with a win. And now they turned 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.240 to Finley, who went oh and three as a rookie 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.719 starter last year with the Bengals, averaging eleven points in 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:59.400 those three games. With no offseason program and no preseason games, 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.800 then he hasn't received the practice reps that a backup 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.839 quarterback normally would. You know, this week in practice will 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.960 be good, getting reps with those guys and getting timing 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.160 and getting some confidence. But um, you know, you got 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.520 to you gotta get ready for the starting quarterback each week. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.120 So obviously Joe's special talent, so you know it's been 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.800 his show. But I'm ready for my role and I'm 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.959 ready to I'm ready to play well. The Bengals are 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.840 two seven and one with wins by the Chargers and 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.839 Cowboys on Sunday. They're currently number three in next year's 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.960 draft order, behind the Jets and Jaguars. But that's the 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.280 last thing on Zach Taylor's mind. The objective is to 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.240 go win and and that's that's been the objective since 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.360 day one, regardless of who's playing on the field. For you, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.160 we got to do more to win football games. We 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.640 have not won enough. And um, you know it's it's 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:50.880 I tell these guys. I love going about it with 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.400 these guys, I really do because they give us everything 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.559 they got and today was disappointing day for all of us, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.880 but been to answer question that the goal is to 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.480 go win football games. Next week up next home game 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.040 against the three and seven New York Giants, who had 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.280 a bye this week. After winning their previous two games. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.840 The Giants are right in the thick of things in 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.560 the NFC. Least, Philadelphia is on top at three six 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.920 and one, the Giants, Cowboys, and Washington Football team all 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.600 just a half game back at three and seven. Now 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:26.040 time for postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave lappam Lapp. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.240 We're referred to it on the broadcast as the ultimate 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.320 nightmare for the Bengals and their fans this year, and 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.719 that's the way it played out. Joe Burrow suffers a 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.640 season ending injury ten games into the season, ten games 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.800 into a tremendous rookie season. He has energized the fan base, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.800 his teammates one in his corner, feeling very confident about 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.880 the Bengals future. But unfortunately we will not get to 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.240 watch Joe play for the final six games of the year. Yeah, 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.240 I mean, he obviously the impact that he had on 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.280 the football team was obvious when he did get hurt. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.959 How everybody came off the sideline, every member of the sideline, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.880 from assistant equipment people to the assistant trainers to everybody 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.400 in between. Coaches, players, all of them and quite a 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.160 few Washington Football team members were there as well. So 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.719 he has impacted the entire league, and rightfully so. I mean, 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.199 he's done an amazing job. He's as great a football 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.920 player as he is, He's even got better people skills. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.000 The way he impacts people, I mean, it's he's got 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.880 the if factor. You know, we talked about it all 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.840 the time, whenever that it is all the intangibles, all 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.800 the abstracts, and all the concretes. He's got all of it, 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.719 he really does. We do not know the extent of 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.840 the injury as we do this for the podcast, but 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.760 I still feel confident in thinking he's going to be fine. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.600 Tom Brady tore his ACL and MCL in two thousand 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.520 and eight, has not missed the start since. Carson Palmer 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.120 suffered his injury in the playoffs in two and fifteen, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.680 did it again in two and fourteen, came back both times. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.920 Adrian Peterson tore his ACL and MCL and Christmas Eve 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.800 one year. The next year he ran for more than 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.520 two thousand yards. So again we don't know the extent 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.560 of the injury, but with modern medicine and rehab and 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.920 Joe Burrow's work ethic, I feel very confident in thinking 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.959 he is going to be fine. Yeah. The thing that 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.439 hit me is look at the quarterback and the other 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.319 team in that football game. Look what he came back from, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:24.320 and there was no penalty on his injury. JJ Watches 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.600 sacked him, took him to the ground, snapped his leg. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.559 No penalty on this injury. That that's the life of 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.760 the quarterback when you're in the pocket and there's all 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.559 kinds of traffic around you. That's why I mean, almost 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.160 every time Alex Smith stays in the pocket and people 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.720 are closing in on him around him. I'm worried about 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.240 him having the plant foot, you know, hit and the 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.720 knee buckle and all those kind of things. That's what 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.160 happened to Joe is Joe transferred his weight and he's 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.600 planted and he gets hit and just does serious damage 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.080 to that leg. The foot was planted in the ground. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.880 That's when the injuries happened. It was very, very similar 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.520 to the injury the Carson Palmer suffered on the side 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.200 of him as he transferred his way to throw a football. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.240 There was no penalty flag on Carson Palmer's either. Now 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.040 they change the rule. But all these guys are hurt 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:15.160 just playing quarterback. It's the it's the you know, that's 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.000 what they get paid the big bucks for. And I 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.960 want to what's going through Alex Smith's head when he 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.080 saw that happened to Joe Barrow and it just it 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.640 didn't seem like think of the hits that Joe has taken, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.440 and that hit was obviously significant. But it's all about timing. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.960 If you if your foot's planted, it's terrible. If your 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.960 foot's not, it's no big deal, you know, you just 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.600 just your leg just kind of brushes it off. So there's, 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.320 as the old saying goes, every single snap, every single 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.560 player is vulnerable and susceptible to an injury, and quarterbacks 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:51.800 certainly aren't immune from that. And Joe Theisman's no penalty, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.320 Lawrence Taylor's just taken him to the ground and his 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.360 leg snaps. You know, it just gets torked and contorted 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.320 the wrong way by powerful people, and as a result, 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:05.480 things like this happened. Unfortunately, the blame game has started. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.280 I've seen on social media the Bengals who are criminally 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.200 negligent for not putting a better offensive line in front 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.200 of Joe Burrow or they shouldn't have played him this 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.400 year the line wasn't good enough. You were part of 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.960 the brotherhood, you played offensive line in the NFL for 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.040 ten years, in the USFL for two. Does that kind 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.600 of stuff tick you off? I can tell you that 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:28.400 nobody feels worse right now than Michael Jordan and other 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.560 guys who you know had had an issue finishing a play. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.560 And if it's you're I know. Eric Steinbach might have 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.920 been one of Carson Palmer's better friends. Eric Steinbach. The 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.000 last thing he wanted to do is have kimover and 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.040 off and fall to the ground as he's blocking him 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.800 and scrambling smash into Carson Palmer's leg. He's devastated. I mean, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.880 it's it's it's just unfortunately it's part of the game. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.520 And Zach Taylor addressed it in the post game. In 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.640 the first half we talked about it there when no sacks. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.880 You know, the first I thought their protection was pretty good, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.360 and at that point Jack del Rio had to start 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.400 bringing a lineback or a safety and on that particular play, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.840 it was just the pocket at that time when he 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.360 was throwing that football collapsed. I mean he got hit 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.360 just as significantly on the touchdown. He threw it to 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.800 aj Green, but his foot was off the ground. You know, 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.840 if it all it all, it has a bearing on 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.560 where your weight is, how you transferred, or you're on 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.960 your back foot, your front foot, have you finished your throw, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.400 are you in the middle of your throw? I mean, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.560 all of that is it split second timing, And sometimes 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.680 you avoid injury and sometimes you get hurt. And that's 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.960 that's just part of the part of the beast in 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.600 the game of football. And I thought, like everybody else 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.040 in the beginning of the season, the protection was tough 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.320 I mean it was it was they were getting overpowered 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.160 and Joe was taking a lot of big hits. And 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.240 he'll be the first one to tell you that he's 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.600 been proud and not just lip service. He's been proud 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.760 of the way the offensive line has stood up for him. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.960 You know, over the last month, guys did well, and 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.359 particularly the juggle makeshift offensive line, guys stepping up and 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.760 doing what they were doing. So, yeah, is it whenever 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.199 a quarterback gets hurt, there's a reason he got he 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.920 got hit. There's a reason he got hurt. Very rarely 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:17.600 is it just out in space, you know, a non 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.359 contact injury. It doesn't happen all that much with quarterbacks, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.960 and the guys that are normally involved in that are 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.800 the offensive lines. So they are going to catch a 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:30.160 tremendous amount of heat. And it's tough, There's no question 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.840 it's tough. Those guys feel lower than low can be 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.320 about the whole thing, and they're going to have to 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.440 endure and bounce back through it themselves. I came a 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.280 d energy, started at right tackle after starting the previous 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.879 two games at left. In the second half, he was 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.440 taken out of the game for Bobby Hart you obviously 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.719 haven't had a chance to study tape or anything like 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.240 that yet, but just from your viewing up the game 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.000 line of live, did anything stand out? Yeah, I mean 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.800 I thought they were really really teeing off and he 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.520 was having trouble finishing. They were being able to cut 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.679 the edge pretty short, you know, on him as he 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.720 was trying to finish. And to me, that is a 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.399 product of him being very comfortable at the left tackle 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.679 position and not as comfortable at right. He finishes and 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.119 widens much easier at left tackle than he does at 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.400 right tackle, and Bobby Hart has taken a Bill Koo 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.800 snaps at the right tackle position, and they felt at 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.040 that point in time that it might be better to 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.480 get Bobby Hard out there to finish, you know, the 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.400 set and to finish the protection part of things. And 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.080 I mean, Hachimadenigy was very very honest and open about 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.040 it himself. And zoom conference calls that he's much more 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.199 comfortable at left tackle than he is at right, but 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.919 he'll go play right tackle. And I think that it 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.439 was just the finish of the set and the finish 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.040 of the protection was where he's having just a little 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.879 bit of a problem and they didn't want that problem 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.760 to intensifire or magnify. And he'll learn from it. He'll 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.040 learn from it, definitely. And I thought for the most part, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.400 and in the first half, I thought he played really well, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.640 pretty darn well. But then when you get behind by 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.840 two plus scores, it turns into a different type of 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.920 pass protection. I mean, there's so much I can speak 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.560 from experience. All of a sudden, you've gone from driving 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.120 around your neighborhood to driving on the Audubon and man, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.320 they're flying at you one hundred miles an hour or more. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:22.919 It's crazy out there. You were, undoubtedly in situations like 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.679 this where a teammate suffered what appeared to be a 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.800 season ending injury while you were out there, I mean, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.639 just broadcasting the game. I felt deflated when it happened. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.640 I can't imagine what it's like to be on the 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.840 field when that happens. What is it like. It's brutal. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.960 When Kenny got his neck, you know, almost think Keith 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.080 Gary grabbed his face mask and tried to twist his 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.040 head off his neck like the Exorcist. At that point, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.080 we weren't really sure what the heck happened. You know, 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.159 we were in our backs to the whole thing. We 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.440 got to the sideline forest, Greg was he was ready 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.720 to kill us. You know that we didn't. Basically all 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.880 mall Keith, Gary and you know, beat the other living 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.320 dog out of him. But we really didn't know what 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.200 took place. I mean, we knew he was hurt and 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.320 we felt terrible that he was hurt. And it's it's 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.639 a it's as bad a feeling as you can experience 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:18.800 because the guy who is the most important guy on 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.320 the offensive football team, the engine of the car is 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.720 down and out, and man, you feel like, what what 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.760 did we do? What happened? What do we do now? 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.880 And it is shocking. It's a shock to your system, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:37.280 and you know, you end up going into this into 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.400 this weird space, and you have to snap yourself out 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.760 of it because right away, I mean, they're lining up 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.040 and there's another snap happening, and everything's coming one hundred 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.000 and fifty miles an our agon. You better be ready 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:48.480 to go or you might be the next one laying 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.400 on the ground. We've talked about how difficult this year 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.240 was going to be for somebody like Joe Burrow. No 0:20:55.359 --> 0:21:00.400 offseason program, no preseason games. In a sense, it might 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.520 be even tougher for Ryan Finley because at least Burrow 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.120