1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I See the Bad Moon arising. Addition, 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: as the Bengals lose their sensational rookie quarterback Joe Burrow 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: for the rest of the twenty twenty season. Coming up, 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: you'll hear radio replay from Sunday's loss in Washington, postgame 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: comments from players and coaches, and in depth analysis from 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham. And in this week's fun fact segment, you'll 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: get to know the person under the pads as I 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: go one on one with defensive lineman Xavier Williams. 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On their opening drive, they started 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: at their own ten, marched to the Washington fifteen, and 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't score when Randy Bullock missed a thirty four yard 27 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: field goal try. After Washington scored a touchdown to take 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a seven nothing lead, the Bengals did it again. They 29 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: started at their own twenty five, drove to the Washington three, 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: and came up empty when they went for it on 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: fourth and goal, and Joe Burrow fumbled after being hit 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: by Chase Young while trying to scramble into the end zone. 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: After two drives, they had one hundred forty four yards 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and no points, But the third time was the charm 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: second out and goal from the four for Cincinnati. Burrow 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: is under center now p Ryan is the running back. 37 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Burrow fakes a hold off throws before getting hit right 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: caught hey j Green touchdown Cincinnati as Adriel Cheryl Maiah 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Green finds the end zone for the first time in 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty six days and first touchdown passed 41 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: between Joe Burrow and AJ Green. Obviously, and Burrow get 42 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: rid of the football with a player defensive player draped 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: on his legs. AJ Green just stays with it. Joe 44 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Burrow throws the ball in a tight window and that's 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: with a defensive player at his legs. He delivers that 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: football just before being taken to the ground. Tremendous effort 47 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: by career touchdown catch number sixty four for AJ Green, 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: just two behind Chad Johnson's franchise record. Unfortunately, Bullock missed 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: the extra point and the Bengals trailed seven to six, 50 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: but Randy atoned late in the half from long distance 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: as long as fifty five so his leg is strong enough. 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Here comes the swing of the leg. This kick looks good, 53 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: and it is good. Randy Bullock comes through from fifty 54 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: three yards away and the Bengals take the lead nine 55 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: to seven with one thirty nine left in the half. 56 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: The Bengals got the ball back on a Jesse Bates 57 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: interception and had a chance to score again on the 58 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: final play of the half, but Bullock's fifty eight yard 59 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: field goal try, which would have been a new club record, 60 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: hit the right upright and the Bengals went to the 61 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: locker room up nine to seven. Burrow was fantastic in 62 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the first half, going twenty one for twenty nine for 63 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety five yards, the one touchdown and 64 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: a passer rating of one oh one point nine. Unfortunately, 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: less than four minutes into the second half, his rookie 66 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: season came to an end. Third down and three, the 67 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Bengals at their own nine. They have three receivers in 68 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: a tight cluster to the right, close to the right tackle, 69 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: single receiver out to the left. Drew Sample Burrow back 70 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: to throw from the two loops at high down field. 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: Sleeping attempt by Boyd broken up by Fuller and after 72 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: gaining seven yards in the first play chart, Burrow is down. 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: He's grabbing his left knee and he's in pain. Oh God, Alan, 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: I think put the hit on him. And Joe Burrow 75 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: released this football they brought. They had seven up at 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Giovanni Bernard went up to the 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and picked up his rusher and blitz pickup. 78 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Finley's gonna have to get ready in a hurry. Looks 79 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow's in trouble. The biggest nightmare for Bengals 80 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: fans this season was an injury to rookie quarterback Joe Burrow, 81 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: and he was and serious pain at the end of 82 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: that play, reaching for his left knee. Burrow was taken 83 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: off the field on a cart and before the game 84 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: was finished, sent out a tweet with a following message, 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: thanks for all the love. Can't get rid of me 86 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: that easy, SIA next year. With his left leg planted 87 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: after making a throw, Burrow got hit just above the 88 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: left knee, causing it to cave inward. It wasn't a 89 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: dirty play. The lineman trying to get to him was 90 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: falling forward while battling with left guard Michael Jordan, and 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: they wound up crashing into the Bengals quarterback. CBS elected 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: not to show a replay. The Bengals were understandably shaken 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and played poorly the rest of the game as Washington 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: scored thirteen unanswered points to win twenty to nine. Backup 95 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: quarterback Ryan Finley struggled. He went three for ten with 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: one interception for a passer rating of zero and got 97 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: sacked four times. Here are Zach Taylor and Ryan Finley 98 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: to who's your quarterback? Is tough, but that's that's the 99 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: way it goes, you know, and next man up and Finley. 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Finley came up and we got to help him and 101 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I gotta call put him in some better situations there, 102 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: um to give him some confidence going early, and we 103 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: just didn't get it done all the way around. Obviously, 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: my thoughts right now are with Joe and just um 105 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: hoping he's gonna be okay and I have a speedy recovery. 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: That was that was tough to see. So we've grown close. 107 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: That was that was hard to see, but um, you know, 108 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: I gotta be ready. That's my role. So UM, I 109 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: got a week to get a lot better, um and 110 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: be able to put this team in a position a 111 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: one football game. So that's kind of one of my 112 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: mind's up. Joe Burrow is not sacked on Sunday and 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: wound up being sacked thirty two times this year. Only 114 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz with forty and Russell Wilson with thirty three 115 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: have been sacked more often Burrow was hit roughly eighty times. 116 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: After the games, Zach Taylor was asked if he could 117 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: have done more to protect his quarterback this season. All 118 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: we can do is make progress. This is this season, 119 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: and we gave up a lot of pressure early in 120 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: the season. In these last couple of weeks, our guys 121 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: have done a great job of keeping people off Joe. 122 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: He's had a great pocket. You know, he did not 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: have a sack in the first half, and the hit, 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: as I saw it wasn't when he had the ball 125 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: in his hand. And so, you know, people keep talking 126 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: about the offensive line without it seemingly watching the film 127 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: from the last four weeks, and so again, those guys 128 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: have done a good job. It's been a revolving door 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: of players. They're doing a great job. Joe's done a 130 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: good job moving down the field, and we felt like 131 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: we were making a lot of progress over the last 132 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: five weeks. And we're not gonna apologize for any of that. 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: After the game, the NFL networks ian Rappaport tweeted that 134 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Burrows suffered a torn acl based on the initial diagnosis, 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: with the possibility of additional damage. So Burrow finished his 136 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: rookie year by completing sixty five percent of his passes 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: with thirteen touchdowns, five interceptions, and a passer rating of 138 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: eighty nine point eight. He averaged two hundred and sixty 139 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: nine passing yards per game. Here are teammates Ryan Finley, 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: Karl Lawson, and AJ Green. You know, I talked with him. 141 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I sat with him for for a little bit. Um. 142 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really have many words. I didn't know what 143 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: to say, um, other than um, you know, I hope 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: he recovers very soon because he's a he's a hell 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: of a player, and it's been it's been a lot 146 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of fun watching him play, um, you know, this first 147 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: half of the season. So I'm excited for when he's back. 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: You could tell just the way he carries himself, his 149 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: or Um, he's just trying to get better. I mean 150 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: after the Ravels game, he was like, yeah, that's that's 151 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: never gonna happen on me, Like, you know, he's damn 152 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: you're crying because he didn't feel like he played that well. Um. 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: And and that's something I can relate to because that's 154 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: kind of that's how I am. So I no doubt 155 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: in my mind that dudes will be okay. And he 156 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: just a guys. Guys man, He just just wanting to guys, 157 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: you know. Just that's the biggest in front of union. 158 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: You see these quarterbacks at number one, they don't talk 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: pilos like quiet, but Joe is a guy. Guy. That's 160 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: the guy that you want in the huddle with them. 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: He was obviously a devastating blow for Zach Taylor, who 162 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: was tasked with developing the number one pick in this 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: year's draft. He handled everything like a professional from day one, 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: and to be voted to captain just speaks everything you 165 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: need to know about the guy. And that the players 166 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: have responded to him, the coaches have responded to him, 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: the city has responded to him, and all that is 168 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: equally as important, you know. And so again he energizes 169 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: this team and and you know, he's been a tremendous 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: player everything we hoped he'd be. And we'll get him 171 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: back at some point, you know, we don't know when 172 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: that is. But for now, we got we gotta transform 173 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: that energy and put it somewhere else in this team. 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: But again, we got plenty of guys we can rely on. 175 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I thought our defense showed us some really good stuff today. 176 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: In some areas we didn't do enough in the second 177 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: half on offense, you know, so they got us some 178 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: stops where you got you gotta transfer that and you're 179 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: having to score points and regained that momentum, and we 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: didn't do that today. And so again it was just 181 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: we weren't solid enough in all three phases to come 182 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: out of here with a win. And now they turned 183 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: to Finley, who went oh and three as a rookie 184 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: starter last year with the Bengals, averaging eleven points in 185 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: those three games. With no offseason program and no preseason games, 186 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: then he hasn't received the practice reps that a backup 187 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: quarterback normally would. You know, this week in practice will 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: be good, getting reps with those guys and getting timing 189 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: and getting some confidence. But um, you know, you got 190 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: to you gotta get ready for the starting quarterback each week. 191 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: So obviously Joe's special talent, so you know it's been 192 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: his show. But I'm ready for my role and I'm 193 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: ready to I'm ready to play well. The Bengals are 194 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: two seven and one with wins by the Chargers and 195 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys on Sunday. They're currently number three in next year's 196 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: draft order, behind the Jets and Jaguars. But that's the 197 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: last thing on Zach Taylor's mind. The objective is to 198 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: go win and and that's that's been the objective since 199 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: day one, regardless of who's playing on the field. For you, 200 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: we got to do more to win football games. We 201 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: have not won enough. And um, you know it's it's 202 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: I tell these guys. I love going about it with 203 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: these guys, I really do because they give us everything 204 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: they got and today was disappointing day for all of us, 205 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: but been to answer question that the goal is to 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: go win football games. Next week up next home game 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: against the three and seven New York Giants, who had 208 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: a bye this week. After winning their previous two games. 209 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: The Giants are right in the thick of things in 210 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: the NFC. Least, Philadelphia is on top at three six 211 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and one, the Giants, Cowboys, and Washington Football team all 212 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: just a half game back at three and seven. Now 213 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: time for postgame analysis with my broadcast partner Dave lappam Lapp. 214 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: We're referred to it on the broadcast as the ultimate 215 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: nightmare for the Bengals and their fans this year, and 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: that's the way it played out. Joe Burrow suffers a 217 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: season ending injury ten games into the season, ten games 218 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: into a tremendous rookie season. He has energized the fan base, 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: his teammates one in his corner, feeling very confident about 220 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: the Bengals future. But unfortunately we will not get to 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: watch Joe play for the final six games of the year. Yeah, 222 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously the impact that he had on 223 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the football team was obvious when he did get hurt. 224 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: How everybody came off the sideline, every member of the sideline, 225 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: from assistant equipment people to the assistant trainers to everybody 226 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: in between. Coaches, players, all of them and quite a 227 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: few Washington Football team members were there as well. So 228 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: he has impacted the entire league, and rightfully so. I mean, 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: he's done an amazing job. He's as great a football 230 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: player as he is, He's even got better people skills. 231 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: The way he impacts people, I mean, it's he's got 232 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: the if factor. You know, we talked about it all 233 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: the time, whenever that it is all the intangibles, all 234 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: the abstracts, and all the concretes. He's got all of it, 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: he really does. We do not know the extent of 236 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: the injury as we do this for the podcast, but 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: I still feel confident in thinking he's going to be fine. 238 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady tore his ACL and MCL in two thousand 239 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: and eight, has not missed the start since. Carson Palmer 240 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: suffered his injury in the playoffs in two and fifteen, 241 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: did it again in two and fourteen, came back both times. 242 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson tore his ACL and MCL and Christmas Eve 243 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: one year. The next year he ran for more than 244 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: two thousand yards. So again we don't know the extent 245 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: of the injury, but with modern medicine and rehab and 246 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's work ethic, I feel very confident in thinking 247 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: he is going to be fine. Yeah. The thing that 248 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: hit me is look at the quarterback and the other 249 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: team in that football game. Look what he came back from, 250 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: and there was no penalty on his injury. JJ Watches 251 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: sacked him, took him to the ground, snapped his leg. 252 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: No penalty on this injury. That that's the life of 253 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback when you're in the pocket and there's all 254 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: kinds of traffic around you. That's why I mean, almost 255 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: every time Alex Smith stays in the pocket and people 256 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: are closing in on him around him. I'm worried about 257 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: him having the plant foot, you know, hit and the 258 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: knee buckle and all those kind of things. That's what 259 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: happened to Joe is Joe transferred his weight and he's 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: planted and he gets hit and just does serious damage 261 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: to that leg. The foot was planted in the ground. 262 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: That's when the injuries happened. It was very, very similar 263 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: to the injury the Carson Palmer suffered on the side 264 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: of him as he transferred his way to throw a football. 265 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: There was no penalty flag on Carson Palmer's either. Now 266 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: they change the rule. But all these guys are hurt 267 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: just playing quarterback. It's the it's the you know, that's 268 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: what they get paid the big bucks for. And I 269 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: want to what's going through Alex Smith's head when he 270 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: saw that happened to Joe Barrow and it just it 271 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: didn't seem like think of the hits that Joe has taken, 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and that hit was obviously significant. But it's all about timing. 273 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: If you if your foot's planted, it's terrible. If your 274 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: foot's not, it's no big deal, you know, you just 275 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: just your leg just kind of brushes it off. So there's, 276 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: as the old saying goes, every single snap, every single 277 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: player is vulnerable and susceptible to an injury, and quarterbacks 278 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: certainly aren't immune from that. And Joe Theisman's no penalty, 279 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor's just taken him to the ground and his 280 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: leg snaps. You know, it just gets torked and contorted 281 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: the wrong way by powerful people, and as a result, 282 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: things like this happened. Unfortunately, the blame game has started. 283 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I've seen on social media the Bengals who are criminally 284 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: negligent for not putting a better offensive line in front 285 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow or they shouldn't have played him this 286 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: year the line wasn't good enough. You were part of 287 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: the brotherhood, you played offensive line in the NFL for 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: ten years, in the USFL for two. Does that kind 289 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: of stuff tick you off? I can tell you that 290 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: nobody feels worse right now than Michael Jordan and other 291 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: guys who you know had had an issue finishing a play. 292 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: And if it's you're I know. Eric Steinbach might have 293 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: been one of Carson Palmer's better friends. Eric Steinbach. The 294 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: last thing he wanted to do is have kimover and 295 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: off and fall to the ground as he's blocking him 296 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: and scrambling smash into Carson Palmer's leg. He's devastated. I mean, 297 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just unfortunately it's part of the game. 298 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: And Zach Taylor addressed it in the post game. In 299 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: the first half we talked about it there when no sacks. 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, the first I thought their protection was pretty good, 301 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: and at that point Jack del Rio had to start 302 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: bringing a lineback or a safety and on that particular play, 303 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: it was just the pocket at that time when he 304 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: was throwing that football collapsed. I mean he got hit 305 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: just as significantly on the touchdown. He threw it to 306 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: aj Green, but his foot was off the ground. You know, 307 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: if it all it all, it has a bearing on 308 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: where your weight is, how you transferred, or you're on 309 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: your back foot, your front foot, have you finished your throw, 310 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: are you in the middle of your throw? I mean, 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: all of that is it split second timing, And sometimes 312 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: you avoid injury and sometimes you get hurt. And that's 313 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: that's just part of the part of the beast in 314 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: the game of football. And I thought, like everybody else 315 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season, the protection was tough 316 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was they were getting overpowered 317 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: and Joe was taking a lot of big hits. And 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: he'll be the first one to tell you that he's 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: been proud and not just lip service. He's been proud 320 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: of the way the offensive line has stood up for him. 321 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, over the last month, guys did well, and 322 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: particularly the juggle makeshift offensive line, guys stepping up and 323 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: doing what they were doing. So, yeah, is it whenever 324 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: a quarterback gets hurt, there's a reason he got he 325 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: got hit. There's a reason he got hurt. Very rarely 326 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: is it just out in space, you know, a non 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: contact injury. It doesn't happen all that much with quarterbacks, 328 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: and the guys that are normally involved in that are 329 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: the offensive lines. So they are going to catch a 330 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of heat. And it's tough, There's no question 331 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: it's tough. Those guys feel lower than low can be 332 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: about the whole thing, and they're going to have to 333 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: endure and bounce back through it themselves. I came a 334 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: d energy, started at right tackle after starting the previous 335 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: two games at left. In the second half, he was 336 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: taken out of the game for Bobby Hart you obviously 337 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to study tape or anything like 338 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: that yet, but just from your viewing up the game 339 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: line of live, did anything stand out? Yeah, I mean 340 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I thought they were really really teeing off and he 341 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: was having trouble finishing. They were being able to cut 342 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the edge pretty short, you know, on him as he 343 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: was trying to finish. And to me, that is a 344 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: product of him being very comfortable at the left tackle 345 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: position and not as comfortable at right. He finishes and 346 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: widens much easier at left tackle than he does at 347 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: right tackle, and Bobby Hart has taken a Bill Koo 348 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: snaps at the right tackle position, and they felt at 349 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: that point in time that it might be better to 350 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: get Bobby Hard out there to finish, you know, the 351 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: set and to finish the protection part of things. And 352 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Hachimadenigy was very very honest and open about 353 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: it himself. And zoom conference calls that he's much more 354 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: comfortable at left tackle than he is at right, but 355 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: he'll go play right tackle. And I think that it 356 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: was just the finish of the set and the finish 357 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: of the protection was where he's having just a little 358 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: bit of a problem and they didn't want that problem 359 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: to intensifire or magnify. And he'll learn from it. He'll 360 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: learn from it, definitely. And I thought for the most part, 361 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: and in the first half, I thought he played really well, 362 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: pretty darn well. But then when you get behind by 363 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: two plus scores, it turns into a different type of 364 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: pass protection. I mean, there's so much I can speak 365 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: from experience. All of a sudden, you've gone from driving 366 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: around your neighborhood to driving on the Audubon and man, 367 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: they're flying at you one hundred miles an hour or more. 368 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: It's crazy out there. You were, undoubtedly in situations like 369 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: this where a teammate suffered what appeared to be a 370 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: season ending injury while you were out there, I mean, 371 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: just broadcasting the game. I felt deflated when it happened. 372 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like to be on the 373 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: field when that happens. What is it like. It's brutal. 374 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: When Kenny got his neck, you know, almost think Keith 375 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Gary grabbed his face mask and tried to twist his 376 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: head off his neck like the Exorcist. At that point, 377 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: we weren't really sure what the heck happened. You know, 378 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: we were in our backs to the whole thing. We 379 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: got to the sideline forest, Greg was he was ready 380 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: to kill us. You know that we didn't. Basically all 381 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: mall Keith, Gary and you know, beat the other living 382 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: dog out of him. But we really didn't know what 383 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: took place. I mean, we knew he was hurt and 384 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: we felt terrible that he was hurt. And it's it's 385 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: a it's as bad a feeling as you can experience 386 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: because the guy who is the most important guy on 387 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: the offensive football team, the engine of the car is 388 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: down and out, and man, you feel like, what what 389 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: did we do? What happened? What do we do now? 390 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: And it is shocking. It's a shock to your system, 391 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: and you know, you end up going into this into 392 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: this weird space, and you have to snap yourself out 393 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: of it because right away, I mean, they're lining up 394 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: and there's another snap happening, and everything's coming one hundred 395 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: and fifty miles an our agon. You better be ready 396 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: to go or you might be the next one laying 397 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: on the ground. We've talked about how difficult this year 398 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: was going to be for somebody like Joe Burrow. No 399 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: offseason program, no preseason games. In a sense, it might 400 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: be even tougher for Ryan Finley because at least Burrow 401 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: was getting all of the practice time with the first 402 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: teamers and tons of reps in practice. Ryan Finlay didn't 403 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: get preseason games and he hasn't been getting those reps. 404 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Now he's got to take over with six games to go. Yeah, 405 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: and what the Bengals decided to do, and rightfully so, 406 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Joe Barrows our guy. Let's sit down head coach, offensive coordinator, 407 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: quarterback coach, and Joe, what do you like? What do 408 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: you like from what you do at LSU? What should 409 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: we add? What should we delete? You know, where should 410 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: we put a point of emphasis? And it was all 411 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: about Joe and getting Joe comfortable and getting him playing well, 412 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: and it worked. He's been playing great. He has a 413 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: great understanding of what his offense is. He has a 414 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: great understanding what defenses are trying to do to take 415 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: away his offense. He can get to the right play 416 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the right protection, do all those things. He's as sharp mentally. Honestly, 417 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: he's as sharp mentally as any quarterback that I've seen. 418 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: He really is. He's a brilliant football guy. Now, Ryan 419 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Finlay is like, this is Joe's offense, and Joe's been 420 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: running this offense, and you know, I had no mini camps, 421 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: no OTAs, no preseason games, no nothing. I mean, and 422 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm studying and I understand the game plan, 423 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: but I haven't run it with the number ones. I mean, 424 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: he was in a He's in a brutal spot, as 425 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: is Zach Taylor, Dan Pitcher and everybody involved. Because now 426 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: it's like we had all this, you know, this big 427 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: universe of stuff that we wanted to do with Joe, 428 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: and we have to cut it down to one planet, 429 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, for Ryan Finley, until we start to practice 430 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: and get things going and sit down with him and 431 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: Ryan of what we've got installed offensively, what do you like? 432 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: What do you not want? Any part of They have 433 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: to go through the whole process again, and it has 434 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: to be really compressed and sped up. And Ryan Finley's 435 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: no dummy. I mean, he's an intelligent guy. So that 436 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: part of it, I think they'll they'll get through. But 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: to the only the only way you can get the 438 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: rhythm and timing is time and reps. Just you can't 439 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: just take a rhythm and timing pill and be like 440 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, you know, in a matter of 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: less than a week. Just doesn't work that way. So 442 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: it's a challenge for sure, there's no question about it. 443 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: Finley went three for ten off the bench for thirty 444 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: yards last year. In the three games he started, he 445 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: completed forty seven percent of his passes four hundred seventy 446 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: four yards, two touchdowns, two picks, passer rating of sixty 447 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: two point one. So he's got a lot of a 448 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: room for improvement based on those three starts. Last year, 449 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals had one other quarterback in the building, Brandon Allen, 450 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: who was on the practice squad. He'll get promoted, you 451 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: would assume to the regular roster. Started three games for 452 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos last year, beat the Cleveland Browns, lost 453 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: the other two, completing forty six percent of his passes 454 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: in the brief time that he played for the Denver Broncos. 455 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: Then you assume they've got to go out and get 456 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: somebody else to have another quarterback in the building. In 457 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: case you're wondering about Jake dola Gala, who was on 458 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the roster last year and was in training camp this year, 459 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: He's been picked up by the Patriots on their practice squad, 460 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: So maybe they go and get him back, although in 461 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: order to do that, I guess they'd have to put 462 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: him on the regular roster in order to take him 463 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: up the Patriots practice squad. Yeah, they would. They'd have to, 464 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously move a guy. Would it be place 465 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: kicker Cyber who would be the guy that would be moved? 466 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: So there's some interesting decisions to be made there. And 467 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: that's assuming the Patriots do not make him one of 468 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: the four weekly protected guys on the practice squad exactly 469 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: exactly and U and could you move a guy from 470 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, your regular roster to the practice squad to 471 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: make room and all those things that go along with us. So, yeah, 472 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: they're they're grinding right now, Duke Tobin and his entire staff, 473 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: or or hitting the phones, hitting the wires, trying to 474 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: find out who's out there, who's And the thing is, 475 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: there's there's no preseason games to evaluate, there's no scrimmages 476 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: to it, there's no nothing to evaluate. It's just a 477 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: matter of who's out there, what names, and then trying 478 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: to go back. I can look, do they have any 479 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: kind of prior hurst in the National Football League what 480 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: do we think about this guy if he has no 481 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: in the NFL coming out of college, go back to 482 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 1: the college team, go back to the college reports on him, 483 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and all those kind of things. So they'll be burning 484 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: up a lot of hours tonight, there's no doubt about it, 485 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: as they try to get themselves ready for the New 486 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: York Giants, New York Football Giants coming to Cincinnati. So 487 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was asked about it after the game, what's 488 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: the objective now with six games to go? And he said, 489 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: you know what would you expect him to say? Our 490 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: goal is to win as many games as possible. Is 491 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: it that simple? Yeah? I mean that's that's the ultimate goal. 492 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: And what you have to do is figure out the 493 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: way to get that done. How do you do that? 494 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: I mean you have to have realistic expectations of I 495 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: mean it changes everything. It changes lu and Ruma's approach 496 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: to the game. It changes how he maybe thinks through 497 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: situations and possibilities during the course of the game. Because 498 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: the offense is more hindered than they were when Joe 499 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: Burrow was out there, you can take maybe more chances defensively, 500 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: maybe you don't take any chances defensively maybe. I mean, 501 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: it's what you have to do is try to inspire 502 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: your defense to buckle up and put on big boy 503 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: pads and extra chin straps and just got to shut 504 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: down points. I mean, you just can't be given up. 505 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: You you think right now, as a defense, if I 506 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: give up twenty one, we're in trouble. Can't give up 507 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: twenty one and the defensive goal it always was. Now 508 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: the NFL has changed. But when I was a player, 509 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: seventeen was a number on the board. All the goals, 510 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, limit this number of yards, rushing, this number 511 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: of yards passing. The points were seventeen, and rushing and 512 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: passing yards, particularly passing yards were less back then. Because 513 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: now it's a passing league. With those passing yards changing, 514 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, points probably changed too. I would assume there's 515 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: probably twenty one instead of seventeen, but you almost have 516 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: to go back to seventeen, and that's that's going to 517 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: be a little bit of a challenge. I mean, the 518 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: New York Giants have an offense that hangs thirty five, 519 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: forty and everybody every week. No, but they have a 520 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks drafted damn high, and he's a pretty good athlete. 521 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. They don't know sae Quon Barkley. 522 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: They've got some their offensive lines, not one of the 523 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: top ten in the league, and all those kind of things, 524 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: but you know they've got an ability to hang twenty 525 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: one points on anybody. So you're gonna have to be 526 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: at your best, at your best, and then special teams, 527 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to own field position. You're gonna have 528 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: to create takeaways. Defense is gonna have to create takeaways. 529 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: There's no way you can go minus in the turnover 530 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: department now and expect to win a football game. You 531 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't win any of them before. Now, if you if 532 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: you think about if you're turning it over now, that's 533 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: when it's not it's not just lose the game, it's 534 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: how you lose a game. And you know this year, 535 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals have lost a lot of close games and 536 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: we're competitive and people are okay, then you look at 537 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Baltimore and how they lost those football games. 538 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: People had major problems. So now down the stretch, it's like, 539 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to figure out a way to win. 540 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: But if we don't, how we how are we losing 541 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: this football game. What are we looking like? We have to, 542 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, look at big picture of that whole thing. 543 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: It's been a bad day, it's been a bad year. 544 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: But I do have one positive thing to mention to 545 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: maybe put a little smile on your face as the 546 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: day comes to an end. This is the last time 547 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: this year you will have to worry about saying a 548 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: team's nickname that know that they no longer use. I'm 549 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: telling you, I think see the Miami RedHawks used to 550 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: be the red Skins. I knew them as the Miami 551 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: red Skins. I know a lot of teams I couldn't 552 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: get rich. And then of course once it starts, man 553 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: a chev it's I I was back back a bunch 554 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: of years. But I'm glad the Washington Football Club is 555 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: at the airport as we speak, flying out of this place. Man, 556 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: it was, I mean, I was glad the Bengals are 557 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: at the airport, flying back here and getting out of 558 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: that city because I've had enough of the Washington Football 559 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Club otherwise known as that bad our word. Here's a 560 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: quick reminder to join Lap and Lance McAlister for Bengals 561 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: Line Monday night from six to nine on seven hundred WLW. 562 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. 563 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. 564 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Now time for this week's fun Facts segment, where you 565 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: get to know the person under the pads. Time for 566 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: some fun facts with defensive tackle Xavier Williams, a native 567 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: of Kansas City, a city known for the Chiefs, the Royals, 568 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and some great barbecue. Let's start with that. When you 569 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: go home, where do you go for barbecue? And what 570 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: are you piling on your plate? Oh? Man, there's a 571 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: couple of spots you'll like to hit for different things, 572 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: but number one spot is gates And what's going on 573 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: that plate? Oh big rib guy, barbecue, beans and burn 574 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Endsta Burnians. If you're going to Kansas City, love the 575 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: burn Ends. I'm with you. You're from a football family, Xavier. 576 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: Your older brother, Rodrick, was part of a Division two 577 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: national championship team and got an NFL tryout with the Chiefs. 578 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: But did I read correctly that your sister and mother 579 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: played football too, Yeah they did. My sister played in 580 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: high school. Actually she played a couple years after college 581 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: in the semi pro league down in Texas. My mom 582 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: played in the Semi pro women's league. I think that 583 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: league started in Kansas City when she was about forty, 584 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: actually right as she was forty years old. As she 585 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: played four years. Mom was a quarterback, and your sister 586 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: was a linebacker. Yeah, linebacker, running back. That's pretty cool. 587 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: We're speaking with Xavier Williams. You attended Grand View High 588 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: School in the Kansas City area. You played football, you wrestled. 589 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Did you have any other interests or activities. I come 590 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: from a basketball family, actually, so I attempted basketball and 591 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: never the sports just really didn't like me as much 592 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: as I tried to like it. So what that was 593 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: about it a little bit of tracking. Big video game guy. 594 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Xavier Williams. Your favorite player 595 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: growing up in Kansas City was the late grade Hall 596 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: of Fame linebacker Derek Thomas. Why did you idolize him? 597 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, even from a young age, you could just 598 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: tell everything that he did was it was just special. 599 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Everybody talked about it. I got to meet him a 600 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: couple of times growing up. One of my friends that 601 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I played on a little league team with, which was 602 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: also the chief his dad worked security. He actually still 603 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: works security there now. He's the head of security there now. 604 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: But he convinced Derek Thomas and a couple of those 605 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: guys to come and visit us, and he usually like, 606 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: let us take us to games and stuff. We got 607 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: to meet the guys, So, I mean, it was just 608 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: it was just I get to see him playing on TV. 609 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: I got to meet him in person. You know. I 610 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: just love the tenacity in which you play, with the energy. 611 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: It was just always great. Just count pull me in. 612 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Xavier Williams. From there, it 613 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: was out into the University of Northern Iowa, about a 614 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: five hour drive from Kansas City. How'd you wind up there? 615 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: They came, they got me. Unfortunately, my high school team 616 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: wasn't that great and we're kind of tucked away in 617 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: the south side of Kansas City, so not a big 618 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: football powerhouse by any means. And they just kind of 619 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: found me, invited me to a camp. I did really well. 620 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: They offered me like right away and just kind of 621 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: just kept building a relationships. So about time I was 622 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: ready to sign, I kind of gotten a few more offers. 623 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: But they have been there the whole time, took visits there. 624 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: Love the coaching staff, and it's kind of all fit. 625 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: What were some of the highlights of your college experience 626 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: on or off the field. I really enjoyed the community there. 627 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: One of my best friends, his family lived right in Waterloo, 628 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: which is a town connected to Cedar Falls. So being 629 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: able to spend like holidays where I couldn't go back home. 630 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: They would like the whole defensive line overhe we have 631 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: meals and everything on the field. They Probably the greatest 632 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: game that we had was we played against the Dakota 633 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: State whenever ranked number one of the nation, like a 634 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: thirty three game win strick or something. We beat them 635 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: at home and Cedar Falls like ye, it was always 636 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic experience playing at the Dome. Coming out of 637 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, you signed as a college free agent with 638 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Arizona and spent your first three NFL seasons with the Cardinals, 639 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: playing with Carson Palmer, Larry Fitzgerald, Calais Campbell, Patrick Peterson, 640 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of great players. How about some of 641 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: the highlights of your time in Arizona. I mean those 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: probably the most memorable years is for kind of what 643 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: you were saying. You know, there was so much talent 644 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: on that team just kind of like legendary guys. The 645 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to come in, be a young guy and just 646 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: you know to sit around see how those guys operate, 647 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: and you know, got to talk to Carson, talk to Larry. 648 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: It was kind of like a shocking moment. I was like, oh, 649 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: why are you guys talking to me? You guys are 650 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: like years in But it was so fun as being 651 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: around there, hearing the stories that those guys told from 652 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: just the years and years that they've played, and you know, 653 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: being around the city also, it was just a fun time, 654 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: a great place to live. I come from the Middlewest, 655 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: always living to the Middlewest, didn't realize there was places 656 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: in the world people didn't have to shove the driveway 657 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: in like that was fantastic. After three years in Arizona, 658 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: you became a free agent and went home. You signed 659 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: it with your hometown team, the Kansas City Chiefs. Was 660 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: it the best offer or was going home a big 661 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: part of your decision? It was it was both, honestly, 662 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: so it made it so much easier. It was the 663 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: best offer that that guy, and it was my hometown 664 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: team got in. It was a weird process because I 665 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: was tendered from the Cardinals, so you know, there's a 666 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: little negotiation. I have to go back and forth. So 667 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: I think I took a visit to Kansas City twice 668 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: before I officially signed, and I never told my mom 669 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: about it because I didn't want to get her hope 670 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: something in case it fell through. So but it was great. 671 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: It all worked out to got to sign with the Chiefs. 672 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: I moved back home. My mom toil for like the 673 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: first two months to my apartment got finished. I mean 674 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: she was she was happy, brought my daughter was there. 675 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: It was a great time back in the childhood bedroom. Yeah, 676 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: after three years in the NFL. You know, those hotel 677 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: fees they get you. That's a good point. So if 678 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: you didn't tell her those two times that you visited 679 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: before you signed, what was her reaction when you broke 680 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: the news, Mom, I'm coming home. Oh, she was a static. Actually, 681 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: she knew before I even told her. Well, I kind 682 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: of like messaged my brother because he, yeah, like somebody 683 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: had told him randomly. He's like, hey, are you in town? 684 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah I am. He's like, are 685 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: you here for the Chiefs. I was like, well yeah, 686 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I was like, just keep it, keep it low. Up 687 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit and yeah, I'm at some point 688 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: he must have told my mom, so I signed, and 689 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: my mom was just kind of like, oh yeah, I 690 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: was just waiting for you to say something like I 691 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: say something back like okay, yeah. The whole family, like, 692 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: I mean, all my family still lives there, so they 693 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: were all just ecstatic, all of them huge Chiefs fans 694 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: still you know, hopefully so we're Cincinnati fans now. But yeah, 695 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: so everybody was just really excited and it worked out 696 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: like a Hollywood script. Last year, in your second year 697 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: with your hometown team, you won a Super Bowl. Ring 698 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you tell your grandkids about that. How are you going 699 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: to describe that experience? Oh? Man, I mean it's something. 700 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: It's it's a one of a kind of experience. I mean, 701 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: the whole setup, from getting down there, playing the game, 702 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: just the feeling of I think I was there for 703 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: the first time they ever held an AFC championship game. 704 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: So being there and winning at the second time ever 705 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: that the hill an AFC championship game, you know, everything 706 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: was just so monumental. There in Kansas City has been 707 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: so long. I think my mom was like a kid 708 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: three or four when they won their last Super Bowl, 709 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: so I probably shouldn't put that on the air, but yeah, anyway, Yeah, 710 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: so everybody was just so excited. It was just a 711 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: great time to be there. And I mean I couldn't 712 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: even put into words how happy I was to be 713 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: back home win the championship. Everybody got to everybody's kind 714 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: of waiting to get a chance to try the ring 715 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: on now, So I gotta walked out away for a while. 716 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, great super Bowl rings are ridiculous. You can't 717 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: wear them. No, it's more like a belt buckle. Yeah, 718 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: you kind of like everybody talks. He's like, no, you 719 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: put it in a nice case and you just like 720 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: stare at it, and everybody like, yeah, you know, I'll 721 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: bring it out. All those guys like yeah, I'll probably 722 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: on award like once or twice in my life. It's 723 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: not something you just put on. It's pretty audacious. So 724 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: it's like as a spectacle, right, word audacious. So people 725 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: around here are interested in one of your former Chiefs teammates, 726 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, who played at the University of Cincinnati and 727 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: obviously has become one of the best tight ends in 728 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. Describe Travis Kelsey energy and happy, Like that's 729 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: really what that's all he's about. He goes out there, 730 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: he can peach his butt off and he has a 731 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: great time. I'm sure everybody remembers the interview after the 732 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: super Bowler has to championship, the whole fight for your 733 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: right to party. That's him, that's just him, that encapsulates him, 734 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: like perfectly, that's what he's all about, working his butt off, 735 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: going out there, being one of the best, and you know, 736 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: just having fun doing it. All right, a few wild 737 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: card questions to wrap up fun Facts with Xavier Williams. 738 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: Are you a Star Wars guy? Big Star Wars guy? 739 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: Read the books, watch the movies, everything got a Dog? Invaders? 740 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: So you have a daughter named Phoenix. What do you 741 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: love most about being a dad? You know, the excitement 742 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: that she has on days like I finished playing a 743 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: game and you know, win or loss or kind of 744 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: beat down and you're tired, and then she can just 745 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: come in the room, just smile, bright eye, jump on me, 746 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: which sometimes that's a little more painful some days, but 747 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: jumps on me and just kind of automatically gives me, 748 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: push me in a better mood, no matter no matter 749 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: how I'm feelings she can just always put me in 750 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: a better mood, and I'll try to give her that 751 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: energy the same energy back and help hopefully she feels 752 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: the same way. But it's just a great feeling to 753 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: come home. It's always somebody sitting there smiling, waiting on you. 754 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: What do you like to spend your money on. I 755 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: like to travel, really into camping, so I got something 756 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: to me and my wife would both enjoy. We got 757 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: out last year. We took advantage of the extra time 758 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: that we had, went up to Wyoming a little bit, 759 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: got out live in Arizona and would go out into 760 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: the back country and just kind of commune with nature. 761 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: And my daughter is really into it. My daughter likes it, 762 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: so I pretty much all my money. We bought a 763 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: camper who will pop up camper, So that's really the 764 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: only thing I really kind of indulge you, all right. 765 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Final fun fact for Xavier Williams. If you could meet 766 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, you name it, who 767 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: would that person be I allowed to meet myself? If 768 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: I like when I was a kid, I think it 769 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: would be really awesome to come back, like hey, just 770 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: pop up like you're an NFL player. That's all. We 771 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: need to hear it and disappear and then go back 772 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: to my present time. And I just think like that 773 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: would be the best feeling. This has been fun off 774 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: the hot seat. I appreciate your time. Best of what 775 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. All right, thank you, have 776 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: a good day. Hi. Thanks to Xavier Williams. And that's 777 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the Bengals 778 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: Booth Podcast, brought to you by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh 779 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: the game. If you haven't done so already, please subscribe 780 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: and if you have a minute, give it a rating 781 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: or share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find 782 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. 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