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Speaker 2: Come on in In case you missed it, we spent
Speaker 2: almost an entire hour on Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray his
Speaker 2: next stop to his next stop. We'll talk to Mike
Speaker 2: Florio from Pro Football Talk and he will join us
Speaker 2: coming up in about twenty minutes from now. But there
Speaker 2: was a reason why we're talking about Kyler Murray and
Speaker 2: a little bit with Tua because I still think that
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is a starting quarterback. And I think a
Speaker 2: team like Atlanta or Minnesota, and I know everybody's going
Speaker 2: to say the same thing, well, why didn't it work
Speaker 2: out in Arizona? For a while, it did, But then
Speaker 2: I just think you get to the point where you go,
Speaker 2: is he going to get any better? Does he want
Speaker 2: to get any better? And maybe they came to that
Speaker 2: conclusion that for what we're paying, we're not going to
Speaker 2: be winning anytime soon, but we're able to build. And look,
Speaker 2: they got Marvin Harrison, Trey McBride, so they have been
Speaker 2: successful in the draft. But if you start to look
Speaker 2: at the draft, that's why we're focusing on Kyler Murray
Speaker 2: and Geno Smith and to a tongue of Ioloa because
Speaker 2: there's no other really good quarterback in the draft. Now,
Speaker 2: maybe Ty Simpson turns out to be something. Fernando we
Speaker 2: know is already going to the Raiders. So now you
Speaker 2: start to focus on these other quarterbacks because your team,
Speaker 2: the Jets, what are they doing? Miami? What are they doing? Minnesota?
Speaker 2: What are they doing? The Colts with Daniel Jones, what
Speaker 2: are they doing? So there's Arizona, what are they doing.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams where you go, what are
Speaker 2: you going to do at that position? And this is
Speaker 2: where I would caution teams, and I would say, don't
Speaker 2: do anything crazy because chances are next year's draft well
Speaker 2: almost impossible for it not to be as good as
Speaker 2: this draft with quarterbacks, but you would maybe be able
Speaker 2: to find your quarterback. Because everybody wants that five year contract,
Speaker 2: that rookie deal, that's what you want. I don't want
Speaker 2: to spend a lot unless I'm ready. Seattle was ready
Speaker 2: to win. That's why they said let's bring in Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2: We'll pay him that money, and they end up winning
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. That's the key. When you bring somebody
Speaker 2: in like that, are you ready to win? Jets aren't
Speaker 2: ready to win. But I think Kyler Murray at his age,
Speaker 2: I would take a chance on it. And if Arizona's
Speaker 2: picking up a good portion of his salary, if Miami's
Speaker 2: picking up a good portion of tooist salary, if I'm
Speaker 2: a team like Atlanta, I bring him in. I bring
Speaker 2: in one of those players. I'm not ready to annoint
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix junior the third my starting quarterback, but if
Speaker 2: I'm able to get and he's under a rookie contract,
Speaker 2: It's just like Minnesota with JJ McCarthy. He's not ready
Speaker 2: to be my starting quarterback. But maybe one of these
Speaker 2: guys can come in and we have to Atlanta can
Speaker 2: win now, Minnesota has proven they can win.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: That's where if I'm bringing a quarterback in, I'm willing
Speaker 2: to pay a little bit. But maybe with Kyler and Tua,
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay that much that the other teams.
Speaker 2: They're teams that they were with before they're going to
Speaker 2: be picking up that salary. What do you have to lose?
Speaker 2: Take a chance. We say good morning. If you're watching
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Speaker 2: sitting by, you'll take your phone calls. Mike Florio from
Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk will join us coming up, and the
Speaker 2: pole question Kyler Murray Heavy, what are we going to
Speaker 2: go with an hour two seaton?
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna let these five breathe for just
Speaker 4: a little bit. Although we didn't really get to get
Speaker 4: into Marvin's much, which I think is a fun one.
Speaker 4: Who is the player that you wish had done more?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Boy, some of them are pretty relevant. Stough, I mean
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and Clowny. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 4: jadeveon Cloudy. Maybe he didn't live up to the insane
Speaker 4: overhype that no one could live up to, but he's
Speaker 4: played a hell of a long time.
Speaker 2: That's worth something. Yes, I don't think he I think
Speaker 2: he had a disappointing career from the standpoint of what
Speaker 2: we thought he was going to be. But I thought
Speaker 2: he had a respectable career. We just thought that he
Speaker 2: was going to have a Hall of Fame career. But
Speaker 2: we put those expectations on him when he did his
Speaker 2: Pro day and ESPN was there I think live and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh my god. Well, it didn't take long
Speaker 2: for me to find out what is the knock on
Speaker 2: Jadavian Clowney. And the knock was he didn't have lower
Speaker 2: leg lower body strength. It's all and all that took
Speaker 2: is one call for me. I would assume people doing
Speaker 2: their homework would say, hey, what could go wrong here?
Speaker 2: A lot of times we were like, this guy's unbelievable. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, there's no this one hundred percent this guy's
Speaker 2: going to be great. I don't care who it is,
Speaker 2: but with you, dave on Clowney, he didn't have lower
Speaker 2: body strength and he could be pushed around a little bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul Clowney is still playing. He's in year twelve,
Speaker 6: mostly as a starter. He made three Pro Bowls at
Speaker 6: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five. He never had more
Speaker 6: than ten sacks in a season. Sixty six and a
Speaker 6: half sacks. A nice career for like a second round guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that he was had a respectable career,
Speaker 2: but it's disappointing because we thought he was going to
Speaker 2: be unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think he's another guy though, too, that doesn't
Speaker 4: get any type of injury benefit of the doubt. I
Speaker 4: feel like he's been up and down throughout most of
Speaker 4: his career because of injury.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paulie, You'll never forget the hit he had in
Speaker 6: the Outback Bowl. Vincent Smith the running back for Michigan,
Speaker 6: and that was that looked like something out of a
Speaker 6: TV show or a movie about a football player.
Speaker 2: No, he'd played the role of rockham Sock him Robots
Speaker 2: where he hit the boxer and his head goes up.
Speaker 2: That was the helmet that left the Michigan player much anticipated.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six NFL season odds to have the most wins.
Speaker 2: You say, the most wins this upcoming season. I have
Speaker 2: three teams tied for the best odds for the most wins.
Speaker 2: Todd will start with you can you get one of three?
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Paulie's Bears.
Speaker 2: Well, you missed it, paul It has to be the Bills.
Speaker 2: You missed it too, seatan.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the Baltimore Ravens, you got one of three, Marvin,
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams, you got another one. The Seattle Seahawks. Hello,
Speaker 2: perhaps you remember them, maybe you've heard of them. Then
Speaker 2: you have the Buffalo Bills, followed by the Lions, Packers, Eagles, Chiefs,
Speaker 2: no Bears. By the way. Speaking of the Bears, they
Speaker 2: just had their center retire at the age of twenty seven,
Speaker 2: Drew Dolman. He just got paid last year. He had
Speaker 2: two years at close to thirty million dollars coming to him,
Speaker 2: and he walked away at age twenty seven, quitter Stanford
Speaker 2: grad and told the team on Monday, I'm retiring. I
Speaker 2: don't know what else any other information attached to this,
Speaker 2: but he was good. He's a Pro Bowl center, and
Speaker 2: this offensive line improved dramatically when they started to you know, well,
Speaker 2: they brought him in and they brought in Joe Tooney
Speaker 2: as well, so that helped the Bears offensive line. But
Speaker 2: that one was a bit of a surprise, I'm sure
Speaker 2: for the Bears when you're twenty seven year old center
Speaker 2: and his dad played in the NFL. Oh, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe he's like, I made a good living, I got
Speaker 2: a Stanford degree, you know, I got I got a
Speaker 2: long future ahead of me, and it's not going to
Speaker 2: be playing football.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, he had thirty million dollars in career earnings.
Speaker 6: As of last season. He had thirteen coming next year,
Speaker 6: thirteen coming the year after. But when you start researching
Speaker 6: the guy, a Stanford guy, his dad played in the league,
Speaker 6: he's probably really aware of the wear and tear of football,
Speaker 6: and he may say to himself, thirty million's good. But
Speaker 6: usually it's from a team, a guy on a team
Speaker 6: that's struggling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact that they had taken that next
Speaker 2: step they you know, playoff team. Man, that's surprising. Yes,
Speaker 2: it is surprising because they finally got good. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: he theoretically is a key piece of that. Yes, he
Speaker 2: had a huge part of it. Yes, be in the
Speaker 2: center calls all the signals at a loss. Stat of
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Speaker 2: indoor golf emails or questions.
Speaker 7: Okay, there's too many questions.
Speaker 2: Well maybe just send it to Paul.
Speaker 7: I can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just so there's a buffer there. But you keep
Speaker 2: you about indoor, watching indoor golf and getting a hole
Speaker 2: on an indoor So all that.
Speaker 9: Excitement that I could not relate to by Tiger and
Speaker 9: the team. I guess maybe if I was on the
Speaker 9: team and they're making.
Speaker 2: A mounts of dollars give give America your mission statement
Speaker 2: on tg.
Speaker 7: L mission statement of the questions I have for Paula.
Speaker 2: Either way, let's just get it out of the way.
Speaker 9: TGL golf is entertain and exciting, kind of boring, silly,
Speaker 9: and totally unnecessary, not going to last very long.
Speaker 7: All of the above except hey, whoa what else?
Speaker 9: And the other was an indoor golf hole in one
Speaker 9: is an amazing rare feat stick out your chest, Tom Kim,
Speaker 9: something of an accomplishment, not anything.
Speaker 7: Listen to me, Jupiter Links, It's not a thing. Just stop.
Speaker 7: It was your choice.
Speaker 2: Would you be saying this to Tiger to his face
Speaker 2: and let me say that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Probably mumbled under my breath as I'm walking away from it.
Speaker 2: But if Tiger called in and you answered the phone,
Speaker 2: I think I.
Speaker 7: Would say thanks for coming on, I'm gonna get.
Speaker 9: You a dan, and then wait for you to bring
Speaker 9: it up in the interview and make me look stupid.
Speaker 9: And then at that point I'd have to eat a
Speaker 9: hide or say yeah, it is kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Indoor go yeah, because then I'm going you know, Tiger,
Speaker 2: not everybody likes indoor golf Todd, why didn't you tell
Speaker 2: Tiger what.
Speaker 9: You think if my eight year old was having a
Speaker 9: birthday party. Get everybody together and place them indoor golf.
Speaker 9: We can go on some rides and you know, do
Speaker 9: the amusement park, then cotton candy.
Speaker 7: It's fun.
Speaker 2: I got excited when I had a hole in one
Speaker 2: on the golf simulator. I know, I mean.
Speaker 10: It was, oh wow, shot, what is going on again?
Speaker 7: Just mumbled under my breath from the distance while you
Speaker 7: were doing that.
Speaker 9: I'm my god, he's getting all excited a hole in
Speaker 9: one hitting like some fake wall with a picture of
Speaker 9: a replica of some.
Speaker 2: Place of pebble beach, par three seven. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: which thank you to yes.
Speaker 6: Based off Todd's question about TJO Golf.
Speaker 10: I've watched it.
Speaker 6: It's well produced, there's a lot of energy, the crowd
Speaker 6: is into it.
Speaker 10: It's good TV.
Speaker 6: But there's only so much room you have as a
Speaker 6: sports fan to watch sports. And I'll watch regular golf
Speaker 6: first if I can, and then maybe TGL. You got
Speaker 6: to be pretty hardcore in the golf for.
Speaker 2: TG Yeah, I guy have to accidentally find it or
Speaker 2: it finds me, and then I might watch it a
Speaker 2: little bit, but I don't place a lot of emphasis
Speaker 2: on it. David in Ohio, Hi David, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey? Dan?
Speaker 11: You guys you mentioned that you had bagels for breakfast
Speaker 11: this morning. My question that Todd was did he have
Speaker 11: an onion bagel? And if he did not, did he
Speaker 11: harass Dylan for it?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 2: Now, thank you David. Jade, who works, you know, with us,
Speaker 2: the advertising people, our sales staff. She's in town and
Speaker 2: she said, I'm going to get bagels, and she wanted
Speaker 2: to know what kind of bagels, and she got some
Speaker 2: onion bagels done.
Speaker 7: She was very, very thoughtful. She's done it before.
Speaker 9: So get in a ray of bagels and she makes
Speaker 9: up show on the side. She puts a couple onion
Speaker 9: bagels aside just for me.
Speaker 7: Yes, which I really appreciate that. Did you know how
Speaker 7: wildly angry I get if one?
Speaker 2: Did you think her?
Speaker 7: I did?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 9: I thank her in person, and then I sent her
Speaker 9: a passive aggressive text as a.
Speaker 7: Backup saying, just want to thank you again for the
Speaker 7: onion bagels. That was very nice of you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Let's see Kirk in Florida. I Kirk, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 5: How you doing this? One is also directed to mister
Speaker 5: Fritz with the whole Miami University. Uh, Miami University is
Speaker 5: the one in Ohio and was founded in eighteen oh nine.
Speaker 5: University of Miami is the one that's in Florida and
Speaker 5: they didn't come along until nineteen twenty five. So if
Speaker 5: anyone should playing of it should be the U in Florida,
Speaker 5: since Miami University was there first.
Speaker 2: Well, we've known the U obviously on the sports landscape,
Speaker 2: not as much Miami of Ohio. Certainly not the football team,
Speaker 2: even though it's the cradle of coaches. More Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame coaches at Miami Ohio, I think than any other university.
Speaker 2: I believe that still exists. But yeah, Miami Ohio has
Speaker 2: been around a lot longer than the U time.
Speaker 9: And Kirk was calling from Florida, so you think he
Speaker 9: might stick up for Miami. But I respect the fact
Speaker 9: that he's like, hey, give the love to Miami Ohio.
Speaker 9: They came first.
Speaker 2: Well maybe he's from Ohio and then he retired down
Speaker 2: in Florida. What people knew that I know.
Speaker 9: But if Miami Ohio was starting the thirteenth century, I
Speaker 9: think the other person would still recognize the Miami Hurricanes,
Speaker 9: even if they just were created twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Over that the thirteenth century. That's a long time, Yes
Speaker 2: it is. Let's see Niles in Arizona. Hi, Niles, Hey,
Speaker 2: oh are you great? You got a question for you, Dan,
Speaker 2: with all the uh with.
Speaker 3: A fire happening, I want to know if you're gonna
Speaker 3: allow the DNEX and the back room guys to take
Speaker 3: one thing when it's all said and done, and how
Speaker 3: much will you let them take? And will there be
Speaker 3: a draft based on performance?
Speaker 2: I'll hang up and listen right, thank you. The answer
Speaker 2: is no, they don't get anything. There's no parting gifts. Hey,
Speaker 2: take whatever you know, piece of memorabilia you want out
Speaker 2: of the building. No, this is all mine. It's a museum.
Speaker 2: You know, if you work in a museum for twenty years,
Speaker 2: if you work in the museum of Modern Art, you
Speaker 2: don't go Can I can I take a van go?
Speaker 2: I'm van gone? Can I take Can I van go home?
Speaker 9: With this?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 5: Tod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't get to take it. There's a museum
Speaker 2: in here. It's my life. This is all I'm going
Speaker 2: to be left with. Yes, Marvin, So when this is over.
Speaker 2: Are you going to charge people to come in here
Speaker 2: and take a little tour that has been recommended? I'm
Speaker 2: thinking maybe a bed in breakfast.
Speaker 10: What are you running it?
Speaker 4: You testing that out with the VRGS now snowstorm bed
Speaker 4: and breakfast?
Speaker 10: Come on.
Speaker 2: I talked to Dylan, Okay, full transparency. I talked to
Speaker 2: Dylan and I said, hey, if I did a bed
Speaker 2: and breakfast here and we set up some places where
Speaker 2: you could bring your family in. We have the cooking area.
Speaker 2: Dylan could be making breakfast, lunch, dinner. You could come in,
Speaker 2: you could play basketball, be on the golf simulator, you
Speaker 2: could sit in the seat. You could play radio host
Speaker 2: if you wanted to. I can bring in my dog,
Speaker 2: you know, we can. We can recreate I can get
Speaker 2: cardboard cutouts of the dan Ets and then you could
Speaker 2: act like you're doing a show talking to them. We
Speaker 2: would do it sort of like a fantasy camp for broadcasters.
Speaker 6: Bed and bread slash fantasy kit. Yeah, you'll do a
Speaker 6: segment for them, maybe, well, I don't know, courtesy segment.
Speaker 2: I might.
Speaker 10: I might, but this is a discussion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I don't know what I'm going to
Speaker 2: do with this museum and maybe you'll just keep it
Speaker 2: as is and then have people be able to come in,
Speaker 2: maybe spend two days.
Speaker 7: Yes, Tom, can patrons leave incense burning and just.
Speaker 2: Take the chest way too soon?
Speaker 7: Bring your own fire extinguis or what is? What's the thing?
Speaker 2: I just went back. The big german got the incense holder.
Speaker 2: He just ordered it right after the fire happened. He
Speaker 2: ordered it, and he goes incense. He was very serious.
Speaker 2: Incense holder be here on Wednesday. And I go, okay,
Speaker 2: all right. He's handling the install as we speak, and
Speaker 2: I go, okay, all right, I got it. Made a mistake,
Speaker 2: all right, So I have an incense holder back there
Speaker 2: that I'm going to put into action tomorrow.
Speaker 9: Yes, And we learned our lesson which you pointed out,
Speaker 9: which is good, so we all know not to do that.
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Speaker 2: We have a lot of Kyler Murray questions today. We're
Speaker 2: still searching for the answers. You're helping us. Our pole
Speaker 2: questions have to do with Kyler Murray. And as I stated,
Speaker 2: I'm not going out of my way to talk about
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray because Kyler Murray is relevant because if you look,
Speaker 2: this draft class is not strong at the quarterbacking position. Therefore,
Speaker 2: to atongu of Ioloa, Geno Smith, Malik Willis, Kyler Murray,
Speaker 2: they're going to play a more important role because they're
Speaker 2: going to have options. Kirk Cousins, They're going to have
Speaker 2: options because if you're a team and you want to
Speaker 2: catch lightning in a bottle, or maybe you're an established
Speaker 2: team and still needs a quarterback like Minnesota does, then
Speaker 2: maybe or Atlanta. Those are great landing spots for one
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks to be able to take a team
Speaker 2: that's playoff worthy and maybe make a run like we
Speaker 2: saw with the Patriots springing. Mike Florio Pro Football Talk
Speaker 2: Live co host and of course, Football Night in America
Speaker 2: in cider, Where do you want to start? Which situation
Speaker 2: piques your interest the most?
Speaker 12: Mike, Well, you're already talking about the man of the moment,
Speaker 12: Kyler Murray. He'll be released next week. And the key
Speaker 12: here is Dan. The Cardinals own thirty six point eight
Speaker 12: million fully guaranteed for twenty twenty six. He can do
Speaker 12: what Russell Wilson did two years ago, take the minimum
Speaker 12: on a one year deal, stick his former team with
Speaker 12: the balance. Because nobody's going to pay more than thirty
Speaker 12: six point eight million for twenty twenty six, and you
Speaker 12: go to a team at a low cost. That team
Speaker 12: saves millions in cash and potential cap space to put
Speaker 12: a good team around you. So that in and of
Speaker 12: itself makes him desirable because he can sign for one
Speaker 12: point three million.
Speaker 10: In fact, I would suggest if he's.
Speaker 12: Got multiple suitors, his position should be I want a
Speaker 12: no trade clause, and I want to know tag clause.
Speaker 12: I want a true one year arrangement and I go
Speaker 12: wherever I want next year. And you don't get into
Speaker 12: this Daniel Jones situation where you got the transition tag.
Speaker 12: You are a true free agent a year from now
Speaker 12: if you have the kind of year that sets you
Speaker 12: up for a big payday.
Speaker 2: Okay, If I look at his first three years in Arizona,
Speaker 2: those are respectable numbers, and then I think he had
Speaker 2: another season that he threw for what thirty eight hundred
Speaker 2: yards as well, So there's what four years out of
Speaker 2: six years with Kyler Murray. I mean that's that's a
Speaker 2: good sample size. I just don't know what the perception
Speaker 2: is around the league with him, either as a football
Speaker 2: player or is it everything attached to that football player.
Speaker 12: Well, Dan, I think the relationship with Arizona went off
Speaker 12: the rails after his third season and it was time
Speaker 12: for him to get a new contract. The worst thing
Speaker 12: the Cardinals could have done was jammed that stupid ass
Speaker 12: study clause. Can I say stupid ass? I just said
Speaker 12: it twice. He did it twice and two tracking because
Speaker 12: as I said earlier today, I'll PFG live.
Speaker 10: The moment that thought.
Speaker 12: Enters your brain if you're Michael Bidwell, the owner of
Speaker 12: the Cardinals, the moment you actually say it out loud
Speaker 12: and put it in a writing, that's when they should
Speaker 12: have traded him. If you have those kinds of misgivings
Speaker 12: about a guy that you've had three years with, and
Speaker 12: if you think he doesn't work hard enough to the
Speaker 12: point where you're willing to put it in writing that
Speaker 12: he's got an obligation to put it in twenty hours
Speaker 12: a week of study, that's when you sell high. That's
Speaker 12: when you trade him to another team. Look where they
Speaker 12: are four years later. What have they done in the
Speaker 12: four years since then?
Speaker 10: Nothing?
Speaker 12: They would have gotten so much more if they had
Speaker 12: flipped Kyler Murray once they realized we've got concerns about him.
Speaker 12: But they felt compelled to pay him. They felt compelled
Speaker 12: to justify using the first overall pick on him. And
Speaker 12: here's where they are not just letting him walk away
Speaker 12: for nothing, letting him walk away and owing him net
Speaker 12: thirty five point five million if he does a one
Speaker 12: year deal for the veteran minimum.
Speaker 2: I would still take a chance on him. If I'm
Speaker 2: Minnesota Atlanta put him indoors and I would take a
Speaker 2: chance on him.
Speaker 12: Mike Dan last two year, as we were getting close
Speaker 12: to the trade deadline, I was casting a wide net
Speaker 12: to see which players who we might not be thinking
Speaker 12: of could be available in trade. And at the time
Speaker 12: it was obvious something odd was going on between the
Speaker 12: Cardinals and Kyler Murray. He hadn't played in several weeks,
Speaker 12: and I poked around whether or not he could be traded.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 12: There were too many moving parts, the contract would have
Speaker 12: to be addressed, too much needed to be done in
Speaker 12: a short time frame for a trade to happen. But
Speaker 12: I was told at the time there were two teams
Speaker 12: he wanted to play for. The Raiders because they had
Speaker 12: Chip Kelly. Well that ship has sailed, and the Vikings
Speaker 12: because of Kevin O'Connell. And where are the Vikings right now?
Speaker 12: They've got JJ McCarthy. They're clearly looking for anyone in
Speaker 12: everyone that potentially could come in and bolster that depth chart.
Speaker 10: A year after they made the.
Speaker 12: Bad decision of not having an established veteran on the roster,
Speaker 12: here's Kyler Murray for one point three million. How could
Speaker 12: they say no to that unless Kevin O'Connell is in
Speaker 12: the camp, and there's a camp out there of coaches
Speaker 12: who just don't want a guy who's south of six two.
Speaker 12: No matter who it is, I don't want a short quarterback.
Speaker 12: There's going to be coaches like that. But you mentioned
Speaker 12: the Falcons. Stefanski's already had short quarterback in Cleveland and
Speaker 12: Dylan Gabriel. I think the wild card in Atlanta is
Speaker 12: whether or not six foot five inch Matt Ryan, the
Speaker 12: president of Football Operation.
Speaker 10: Says no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 12: We can't have a guy who's under six feet tall
Speaker 12: playing quarterback in Stefansk.
Speaker 2: Gad Baker Mayfield as well in Cleveland. Right to what
Speaker 2: got a chance to be a starter next year.
Speaker 12: It depends on where the other dominoes fall. I love
Speaker 12: the quarterback carousel. You know, the coaching carousel has to
Speaker 12: come to a complete stop. We know where all the
Speaker 12: head coaches are, we know the coordinators are, and now
Speaker 12: we can start trying to figure out where these quarterbacks
Speaker 12: are going to land. And there's a chance somebody's going
Speaker 12: to talk themselves into Tua based upon the good things
Speaker 12: he did with.
Speaker 10: The Miami Dolphins. He wasn't horrible.
Speaker 12: He did enough to get them to give him a
Speaker 12: market value contract, even though that was ridiculous that they
Speaker 12: paid him when they did, they weren't bidding against anyone
Speaker 12: but themselves. He was under contract for another year. Sure,
Speaker 12: let's give him fifty five million a year. That was
Speaker 12: a huge mistake. That was almost a Deshaun Watson lovel
Speaker 12: mistake by the Miami Dolphins. But if you get him
Speaker 12: in the right circumstances, you put him in the right offense,
Speaker 12: he can make things happen. The problem for him is
Speaker 12: that when the play that's there or the play that's
Speaker 12: called isn't there.
Speaker 10: Things kind of short circuit. But he's not alone. Kirk
Speaker 10: Cousins falls into that camp.
Speaker 12: There are plenty of quarterbacks who do a fine job
Speaker 12: at the NFL level who aren't capable of the Patrick
Speaker 12: Mahomes Josh Allen make magic when things go sideways.
Speaker 10: So there will be someone who will.
Speaker 12: Talk themselves into the possibility of giving.
Speaker 10: Hi an opportunity.
Speaker 12: And he's going to be in that same boat as
Speaker 12: Kyler one point three million on a one year deal
Speaker 12: because the Dolphins own fifty four million fully guaranteed this year.
Speaker 2: Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host the Transition
Speaker 2: Tag with Daniel Jones. You've allowed Anthony Richardson to seek
Speaker 2: a trade someplace else. You've kind of taken away your
Speaker 2: leverage a little bit, I would think with Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: haven't you if you're Indianapolis.
Speaker 12: Well, I think the Colts are content to see what
Speaker 12: a team will offer him on a long term deal,
Speaker 12: given that he's still recovering from a torn achilles tendon
Speaker 12: that happened less than three months ago. And for him,
Speaker 12: he's got a great bird in the hand here, thirty
Speaker 12: seven point eight million. All he's got to do is
Speaker 12: sign his name to the offer, and he gets it
Speaker 12: with no exceptions, no limitations, don't have to pass a
Speaker 12: physical it by this day.
Speaker 10: This day.
Speaker 12: You know, sometimes you'll see contracts that have those in there.
Speaker 12: When you got a guy coming off a serious injury,
Speaker 12: he gets thirty seven to eight. Last year he got fourteen.
Speaker 12: It's been a good year.
Speaker 10: For Daniel Jones.
Speaker 12: And now let's just see if someone offers him the
Speaker 12: kind of long term contract that he would accept, and
Speaker 12: then the Colts would have the opportunity to match it.
Speaker 10: And I don't know that anyone's going to do it.
Speaker 12: But the worst case scenario for Jones, well, the worst
Speaker 12: case scenario is the Colts rescind the transition tender and
Speaker 12: then he's a free agent after all.
Speaker 10: The money has flowed.
Speaker 12: But if he he just plays under the transition tag
Speaker 12: this year, that's thirty seven eight for a guy that
Speaker 12: we thought when the Giants cut him his days of
Speaker 12: making big money in the NFL were over.
Speaker 2: We do this every year. I caution teams every year,
Speaker 2: look at what happens on Saturdays, not what happens on
Speaker 2: a Thursday or Friday. In Indianapolis at the combine, we
Speaker 2: fall in love with these moments here, these players here,
Speaker 2: And I still go back to what did you do
Speaker 2: in an actual game situation? But can you see, can
Speaker 2: you give me a couple of names since you were there,
Speaker 2: where you go what they did is going to elevate
Speaker 2: their draft status, and rightfully so.
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, you look at what Sonny Styles, the
Speaker 12: Ohio State linebacker did just off the charts across the boards.
Speaker 12: You've got the Arkansas quarterback who had eye popping numbers
Speaker 12: and he's six four, two twenty five.
Speaker 10: Those are things that can help.
Speaker 12: But you're right, Dan, we have seen what a guy
Speaker 12: does when it's eleven on eleven.
Speaker 10: But those are the moments.
Speaker 2: You pause, though, Mike, when you go look at all
Speaker 2: of that talent that guy has, and then you go, well,
Speaker 2: what did he do on Saturdays? How did Sonny Styles
Speaker 2: not reek havoc? Where we go, oh my god, he's
Speaker 2: the next Micah Parsons.
Speaker 10: And that's a great question.
Speaker 12: Well, you got a bunch of you got a bunch
Speaker 12: of other great defenders.
Speaker 10: Maybe the other guys were getting to the ball before
Speaker 10: he took it.
Speaker 12: I don't know, but Dan, you know, this is where
Speaker 12: I think bad teams, dysfunctional teams get infatuated by measurables,
Speaker 12: by analytics, by numbers, and they lose sight.
Speaker 10: Of the.
Speaker 12: Eyeball test as it relates to what the guy does
Speaker 12: on the field. Remember Vernon Golston, he was the pass
Speaker 12: rusher from Ohio State and he ended up going a
Speaker 12: lot higher than he should have because he had all
Speaker 12: the measurables. But what happens when you get in a game,
Speaker 12: what do you do to make a difference when it's
Speaker 12: time to go out there and use those skills in
Speaker 12: a very different setting.
Speaker 10: So the good teams get it.
Speaker 12: The good teams know it's just one piece of a
Speaker 12: bigger puzzle, and sometimes the bad teams put too much
Speaker 12: emphasis on the wrong things, whether it's what a guy
Speaker 12: does in underwear in Indianapolis, or you know, sometimes they
Speaker 12: put too much emphasis on what a guy does in
Speaker 12: college because you look at what he did in this
Speaker 12: game against a max school and you get infatuated by that,
Speaker 12: and you overlook what he did when it was time
Speaker 12: to go play one of the top schools if he
Speaker 12: didn't have a big day that day. So it's complicated,
Speaker 12: and we see that certain teams have figured it out
Speaker 12: and certain teams haven't.
Speaker 2: The market for Malik Willis is what.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 12: A GM told me last week that the thinking is
Speaker 12: between twenty to twenty five million dollars on a two
Speaker 12: or three year deal. Shorter term is better for Malik
Speaker 12: Willis because if he goes somewhere and he plays for
Speaker 12: a full season like he did when he got opportunities
Speaker 12: in the last two years with the Packers, then he'll
Speaker 12: be in line to get paid.
Speaker 10: A much bigger salary.
Speaker 12: I think there's two teams to watch who are going
Speaker 12: to be the ultimate Litman test here. The Dolphins and
Speaker 12: the Cardinals, because you've got two guys from Green Bay
Speaker 12: the past two years who are now calling the shots
Speaker 12: in Miami and John Eric Sullivan and Jeff Hafley. They
Speaker 12: know Malik Willis, not just when we see him play.
Speaker 12: They know him all the time. They know him in
Speaker 12: the meeting room, they know him on the practice field,
Speaker 12: they know what he can do. If they're not in
Speaker 12: on Malik Willis, that's a red flag for anyone else
Speaker 12: who doesn't know him. And with the Cardinals, Matt Lafleur
Speaker 12: the head coach of the Packers, his brother Mike is
Speaker 12: the head coach of the Cardinals. Now, I'd like to
Speaker 12: think that Matt would say to Mike, hey, man, I
Speaker 12: know you need a quarterback. This may be a guy
Speaker 12: that you want to take a look at because I
Speaker 12: think he can do it all season long.
Speaker 10: Because when he played the last.
Speaker 12: Two years, the numbers one hundred and thirty four plus
Speaker 12: passer rating, averaging more than ten yards per attempt, seventy
Speaker 12: five percent plus completion percentage.
Speaker 10: The guy has been very good.
Speaker 12: But as I was cautioned last week, you got to
Speaker 12: understand why he wasn't very good Tennessee. As part of
Speaker 12: the overall picture. The Titans gave him away for a
Speaker 12: seventh round pick.
Speaker 2: Dan, you make great points there before I let you go.
Speaker 2: The Drew Dolman situation with the Bears. Here's a high
Speaker 2: end center who just got paid last year. He's twenty seven.
Speaker 2: He walks in and he says, I'm retiring. Do we
Speaker 2: know anything more about this?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, when I thought about the situation last night,
Speaker 12: and the Bears could try to seek four million back
Speaker 12: from him because he got a six million dollar signing
Speaker 12: bonus on a three year deal. Technically he hasn't earned
Speaker 12: that four million in the collective bargaining agreement.
Speaker 10: Lets the Bears go get it if they choose to.
Speaker 12: And I thought last night, when you look at what
Speaker 12: he did on the first year of his contract, he
Speaker 12: had a career seison, played every snap in the regular season,
Speaker 12: started nineteen games if we include the playoffs. Pro bowler,
Speaker 12: you know, was he maybe looking for an adjustment and
Speaker 12: the Bears said no, and this is part of a
Speaker 12: broader leverage play. And I poked around a little on that.
Speaker 12: My understanding is that's not the case. He's just done.
Speaker 10: And nobody knows their body better than the players. Five
Speaker 10: years of wear and tear.
Speaker 12: And you know, I say this all the time with anyone.
Speaker 12: Remember when Vonte Davis retired during a game, Like the
Speaker 12: moment that you're no longer willing to go out on
Speaker 12: the field and subject yourself to that physical toll, the
Speaker 12: risk that happens on every snap, the moment you're not
Speaker 12: willing to do it, then you shouldn't And I respect it.
Speaker 12: Whenever a guy decides he's had enough, and by all indications,
Speaker 12: Drew Dolman decided he'd had enough.
Speaker 2: Vonte Davis retiring at halftime, though that feels like a
Speaker 2: thirty for thirty Mike, Oh.
Speaker 10: It was a hell of a story when it happened.
Speaker 12: But again, the moment that you don't want to do
Speaker 12: it for whatever reason, It takes so much to go
Speaker 12: out there and subject yourself to that.
Speaker 10: And I think if you're out there.
Speaker 12: And you don't want to be you're just asking for
Speaker 12: an injury, You're asking for a bad outcome. You've got
Speaker 12: to be all in to survive, not just thrive, but survive.
Speaker 2: In the NFL, what's the Combine's future.
Speaker 12: Well, fortunately, guys like Jerry Jones to have realized the
Speaker 12: prospect of making it a traveling road show, which was
Speaker 12: a hot topic five or six years ago. That's died
Speaker 12: down because we already see coaches not go if this
Speaker 12: thing was less convenient than it is in Indianapolis. And
Speaker 12: it's perfect in Indianapolis. Everything is close together, the city
Speaker 12: isn't overrun by fans, The coaches, the scouts, they can
Speaker 12: they can get to where they need to be quickly.
Speaker 12: If it's in LA or something like that, you got
Speaker 12: to drive two hours here and two hours you'll have
Speaker 12: fewer coaches go.
Speaker 10: I think what.
Speaker 12: Happened Dan a decade or so ago, it felt like
Speaker 12: the Combine was on a trajectory to become a massive
Speaker 12: offseason tent poll for the NFL. I think we've gotten
Speaker 12: to the point where it kind of is what it is.
Speaker 12: You know, last year on the Saturday for the quarterback,
Speaker 12: receiver and running back workouts average four hundred and eighty
Speaker 12: four thousand viewers. That's nothing as it relates to what
Speaker 12: the NFL usually does, So I think they recognize.
Speaker 10: It for what it is.
Speaker 12: It started as a way to get everybody together so
Speaker 12: you could do medical examination of all the players in
Speaker 12: one so you don't have to drag them all over
Speaker 12: the country and getting poke, poked and prodded here and there.
Speaker 12: I think people recognize it for what it isn't and
Speaker 12: they recognize it for what it is, and I think
Speaker 12: it's going to stay in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been seven months. What the hell I mean?
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Speaker 10: I'm not worried.
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Speaker 10: Thank you Dan.
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Speaker 2: Top of the hour, We're going to play the quarterback
Speaker 2: Reclamation game. Which quarter back has the best chance for
Speaker 2: a reclamation. We'll have that for you at the top
Speaker 2: of the hour, Yes, Marvin. And at the end of
Speaker 2: next season they win the Donald Yeah they Sam Donald. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: the Sam Donald Memorial Award or whatever we're gonna call it,
Speaker 2: although that sounds weird to call it Sam Donald Memorial.
Speaker 2: Still he revitalized his career, still very much alive. Let's
Speaker 2: see Curtis in Illinois had Curtis, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me today? One DP?
Speaker 11: I kind of want to disagree with you a smidge
Speaker 11: on your love for Kyler Murray. I don't think he's
Speaker 11: the guy yet that can take over a franchise because
Speaker 11: he hasn't really proven anything. So I think for the Vikings,
Speaker 11: their moves should be to trade for mac Jones because
Speaker 11: for the money, it's not that much more if Kyler's
Speaker 11: going to get.
Speaker 2: The league minimum.
Speaker 11: Mac Jones is on the second year of a two
Speaker 11: year deal for like four point seventy five this year.
Speaker 2: But why would the Niners trade mac Jones.
Speaker 11: To get to draft capital out of it? Because if
Speaker 11: I'm the Vikings, I'd offer a first or second round
Speaker 11: guy because I think if mac gill.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, if you're going to give a first round pick, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't think the Niners would trade Mac Jones because
Speaker 2: you've got maybe the best backup quarterback in the league,
Speaker 2: and he's under contract, and you got Rock Perty who
Speaker 2: missed games last year, and you're a team that is
Speaker 2: expected to win at least ten games this upcoming season.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying Kyler Murray is the man, though, Curtis.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, at that price and that coach and that talent,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a free tryout here. Let's see
Speaker 2: what else do we have here? Blake and Long Island. Hi, Blake,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan?
Speaker 13: Sixth even two hundred towns? And a couple quick questions
Speaker 13: about Rick Patino's squad, John's what's your opinion on them
Speaker 13: making a legitimate run this year in March Madness after
Speaker 13: last year's disappointing second round exit at the number two seeds. Also,
Speaker 13: a few periods back, you did an interview leave it
Speaker 13: with Jim.
Speaker 2: Got a bad connection there, Blake. I don't have high
Speaker 2: hopes for Saint John's last year. I did, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it got weird in that game
Speaker 2: and watching them play against Yukon and they couldn't make
Speaker 2: a basket for like they've missed their last twenty four shots.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of confidence in him. I just
Speaker 2: don't think this team is better than last year's.
Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, Yeah, last year dur An NCAA Tournament Patino
Speaker 9: benched the Biggiest Player of the year.
Speaker 7: R J.
Speaker 2: Lewis Lake. Yeah, I know, I'm sorry. What what's going
Speaker 2: on here? So weird?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it was almost like Belichick with Malcolm
Speaker 2: Butler in the Super Bowl, Like what happened here?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 2: Brian in Ohio? Hi Brian, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 14: Thanks so much for taking my call. I wanted to
Speaker 14: share a funny memory that I have. I know there's
Speaker 14: been a lot of talk about Miami, Ohio this morning,
Speaker 14: but I actually went to Miami Ohio.
Speaker 2: Graduated in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 14: In two thousand and seven, I was a junior and
Speaker 14: had the privilege of escorting you around campus when you
Speaker 14: came to talk, and it was myself and a professor,
Speaker 14: Climban that picked you up at the Cincinnati Airport. We
Speaker 14: went to TGI Fridays for lunch and then went over
Speaker 14: to the ice rank, met with the athletic director, went
Speaker 14: to the President's house at dinner, and then you spoke
Speaker 14: to the university that night. And funniest moment I remember
Speaker 14: was you got up there and you mentioned earlier on
Speaker 14: the show that your girlfriend went to Miami Ohio. Well,
Speaker 14: her son also went to Miami of Ohio and graduated
Speaker 14: with me, and you called him up that night, and
Speaker 14: so he stood up, he starts walking up and you
Speaker 14: go to daddy and manages the crowd up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 14: felt bad about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenny Batchie's son, and what a great kid, And
Speaker 2: I go, I might be your dad, and the crowd erupted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a great thing to say, but I mean
Speaker 2: it got a good reaction though. Yes, Paul, I heard.
Speaker 6: He's got a good jumper and doesn't pass a lot.
Speaker 2: And he's got nice hair.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Jenny is happily married, and I'm happy
Speaker 2: that she's happily married, are you.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely comes from a wonderful family, some of those striking women.
Speaker 2: I think I've ever seen her sisters and her It
Speaker 2: wasn't fair, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6: What do you think happens after we do a segment
Speaker 6: like this back there? You probably get some feedback off yeah,
Speaker 6: I do want to say too much, but someone's texting
Speaker 6: her her sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, she should take it as a compliment.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen her in probably fifty years, but she
Speaker 2: probably still looks the same. Huh. My wife's not really
Speaker 2: big when I bring up you know, Jenny Batchie. But
Speaker 2: you know, I say, han, it's just part of the show.
Speaker 2: It's just content. It's just a bit. She goes, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we kind of bring her up a lot, don't you.
Speaker 2: I go, no, no, no, not that much. Yes, tonh
Speaker 2: that's a bit awkward. Dustin in Alabama, Hi, Dustin.
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks for taking Colin gods. Two quick comments and
Speaker 15: then pott of the face, Bess you got time one
Speaker 15: Today Mark's twenty seventh anniversary that we marched forth and
Speaker 15: I joined the d MC club, so especially today for me. Second,
Speaker 15: regarding Fritzie's comment on the Tgo Golf sim golf, Yeah,
Speaker 15: I don't know if it's gonna keep taking off and
Speaker 15: being popular on TV. But I know me and a
Speaker 15: lot of kids I coach you golf that it simulator
Speaker 15: golf leagues have become real popular down here, so I
Speaker 15: think could be something great. And then on that note,
Speaker 15: i'd love to hear. I listen to both of the
Speaker 15: podcasts this week. I don't know if they're good, great,
Speaker 15: or what, but I cannot stop listening. So maybe that
Speaker 15: could be a topic part of the face bet. I
Speaker 15: feel confident in shuck in New Orleans this season. Just
Speaker 15: bought season tickets for the first time. And part of
Speaker 15: the face bet that the Saints win the NFC South
Speaker 15: and win a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, who wants some piece of dustin there? The
Speaker 2: Saints make the playoffs and they win a playoff game. Oh,
Speaker 2: I got three four dns. All right, I'm actually rooting
Speaker 2: for the Saints. I'd be rooting for them to make
Speaker 2: a playoff, win a game, Tyler.
Speaker 7: Show, win a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I know? All right, All four dnn's
Speaker 2: going again to dustin the reclamation game. We'll have that
Speaker 2: for you. Top of the hour, Which quarterback best chance
Speaker 2: for a reclamation this year? Who's this year's Sam Darnold?
Speaker 2: Final Hour right after this