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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. I'm at home, not

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Speaker 2: And I just went and said to Henry, I said,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go to Thunderbolts tonight, the movie. And he

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Speaker 2: said we would be like people on Wheatie's Box, which

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Speaker 2: is one of the funny lines from one of the trailers.

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Speaker 2: But Hansen, how did you go out of your way

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Speaker 2: to pick a trailer that didn't have a joke in it,

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Speaker 2: since that's the whole thing is it's a comedy.

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Speaker 1: Oh and he's not shot gunning snakes. He's yelling at

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Speaker 1: the staff over perfectly understandable.

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Speaker 2: We will be like people on Wheatie's Box. I wanted

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Speaker 2: this thing you said you're gonna do later.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this. Yes, the question of cheap Chinese

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Speaker 1: crap is not great, and we've given away our manufacturing jobs,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. What the President has been talking

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Speaker 1: about versus the fact that we have an incredibly high

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Speaker 1: standard of living because of a lot of those things,

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Speaker 1: and I will illustrate through statistics, not arguing one side

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Speaker 1: or the other. But if we were to sacrifice a

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Speaker 1: significant chunk of that standard of living to create a

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Speaker 1: few manufacturing jobs, is that a good idea?

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Speaker 2: And again, my favorite stat is there are one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty thousand plus manufacturing jobs available right now that

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Speaker 2: like pretending like that's the magic job that everybody's really

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Speaker 2: wanting if only they could get it, which may be way,

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Speaker 2: way untrue.

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Speaker 1: And I think some of this nostalgia is a little

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Speaker 1: twisted as well. You could have a good, well paying

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Speaker 1: job right out of high school and realize the American dream,

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Speaker 1: which was a nine and fifty square foot house and

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Speaker 1: at the lake that was a two hour drive. You

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Speaker 1: never flew anywhere, right, So I just I would like

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Speaker 1: to deal with reality and not slogans and hazy uh

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Speaker 1: you know, versions of yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, let me do I cough button? Yes please?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, bring the cough butt into the theater with

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Speaker 1: you tonight. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I might be in the lobby, but I saw a

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Speaker 1: So, I I hate the.

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Speaker 2: Point of view that some pundits have around this that, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're going to bring back sewing up sneakers, like Americans

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Speaker 2: are too good to do those kind of jobs.

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Speaker 1: I hate that point of view. Yeah, but if there are.

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Speaker 2: Manufacturing jobs available out there that Americans aren't doing now,

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Speaker 2: the idea that bringing more is going to fix that

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Speaker 2: seems weird. And then you've got the adjusted for inflation

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Speaker 2: service what do you call it?

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Speaker 1: Service? Extra jobs are.

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Speaker 2: Paying more than manufacturing jobs, So it's not like manufacturing

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Speaker 2: jobs are some ticket to wealth compared to what we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true. And we didn't even touch on the

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Speaker 1: idea of we also need radical welfare reform to beat

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Speaker 1: the bushes and get all of those hundreds of millions

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Speaker 1: of workers who are sitting on their asses out to

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Speaker 2: Politicians have kind of led us to believe that when

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Speaker 2: you talk manufacturing jobs, it's all going to be like

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Speaker 2: you're a worker at General Motors in the fifties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's at patina around it, that kind of halo

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Speaker 2: Where the United Auto Workers was able to get you

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Speaker 2: Nike's somewhere for very little money, which is more reality.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, Yeah, more more drone jobs, if

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Speaker 1: you will. And I don't you know, I don't use

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Speaker 1: that in a pejorative way. I've had those jobs, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're You're pretty replaceable, and the work is not what

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Speaker 1: puts food on the table. But again, man, we would

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Speaker 1: which I would love to see, but it's it's fairly unlikely.

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Speaker 1: More on that topic to come later on the hour.

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Speaker 1: But first, it's the Friday tradition. Let's take a fond

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Speaker 1: look back at the week that was. It's cow clips

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Speaker 4: Take that your stupid hosers.

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Speaker 1: Whips of the week?

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Speaker 5: Yutda die yutta die.

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Speaker 6: Dougie's here too.

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Speaker 3: I could code talk to white guys watching football fixing

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Speaker 3: their trucks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, right here, man. Yeah, let's doesn't. But you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to wait a little bit longer.

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Speaker 2: That Robert De Niro's twenty nine year old child, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: has come out as transgender.

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Speaker 1: When the press asked.

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Speaker 2: Her for comments, she said, you're talking to they them.

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Speaker 1: How did you guys meet? Not talking about this? No,

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Speaker 1: President Trump's call to the founder and executive chair of

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Speaker 1: Amazon peeved.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the children will have two dollars instead of thirty dollars.

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Speaker 3: You know, they have ships that are loaded up with stuff,

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Speaker 3: much of which said, but much of which we don't need.

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan faces multiple charges for

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Speaker 2: allegedly obstructing ICE.

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Speaker 1: Agents while a state prosecutor and victims of domestic violence

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Speaker 1: are sitting in the courtroom.

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Speaker 2: It is a sad reflection on the state of our

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Speaker 2: media that you obsessively try to shill for this MS

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Speaker 2: thirteen terrorists.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, Terry, he did not have to letter

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Speaker 6: MS one. It is MS one three and that was

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Speaker 6: a photoshop. Hey, they're giving you the big break of

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Speaker 6: a lifetime. You know you're doing the interview. I picked

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Speaker 6: you because, frankly, I never heard of you. But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: This is really stunning news that Mike Waltz, the National

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Speaker 2: Security Advisor, pushed.

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Speaker 3: Out but now in for the United Nations ambassador.

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Speaker 1: I think you can make a good argument that its promotion.

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Speaker 1: He likes Mike. President Trump, I know, really likes Mike.

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Speaker 1: I read President Trump's move. They aren't the adjetle.

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Speaker 2: Pwton thinks that America has taken the bullet train to

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Speaker 1: We are over the shock of the American betrayal, but

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Speaker 1: we should never forget the lessons.

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Speaker 5: Learn it well, behaved as their goodie two shoes brother Canada,

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Speaker 5: who by the way, has never hit a girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Just say.

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Speaker 2: I love when Trump says to interviewers he's attacking the

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Speaker 2: free press.

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Speaker 1: I love when he says, that's a stupid.

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Speaker 2: Question, because they often are stupid questions.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah. By the way, I've never heard of

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Speaker 1: better left intact. But yeah, don't dignify a stupid question

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Speaker 1: with a response. Yeah, I love that. So a couple

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Speaker 1: of notes from the world to campus. These days, from

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Speaker 1: college campuses, Princeton has not really been in the spotlight

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Speaker 1: of the campus madness and the controversies and the woke crap.

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Speaker 2: Should be amount of money from various places like Dubai.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. But Chris Ruffo, who's doing fabulous work

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Speaker 1: in campus reform, has turned his gaze in that direction

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Speaker 1: how the school tried to discourage hiring white men and

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Speaker 1: how Princeton faculty were hilariously open about it. Quote, you

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Speaker 1: can't shortlist this person. We can't hire a white guy,

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Speaker 1: just like that. No weird phrases like of minority experience

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Speaker 2: You got to twist yourself into knots to have that

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Speaker 1: Quoting Nelly Bowles, quoting Chris Rufo. Anotherrofessor told Rufo that

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Speaker 1: administrators tore down portraits of former faculty chairs because they

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Speaker 1: So they removed all the photographs and no one objected.

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Speaker 1: That's that is just something. Where do you.

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Speaker 2: Think that will lead that out and out obvious, perfectly

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Speaker 1: Where do you think that will lead? No, we will

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Speaker 1: do racism and we will do it in the right

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Speaker 1: way for the right reasons, but the rest of you

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Speaker 1: must refrain from it. Yah. Well, these people seriously, they

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Speaker 1: have no connection with reality. And meanwhile, at Harvard Law School,

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Speaker 1: the most prestigious law journal in law schools may DEI

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Speaker 1: process for editors. That's number one over Comperence in sight

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Speaker 1: well written it was. Over four years worth of documents

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Speaker 1: articles in top tier journals. Blah blah blah. Wow, you

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Speaker 2: How can you possibly, Like I said, you've got to

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Speaker 2: Into the whole oppress or appressed thing you feel like

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Speaker 2: you're gonna balance it out somehow, but not go too far.

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Speaker 1: You'll never go too far to where it'll be, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Racism? It's an academic theory

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Speaker 1: that's fueled by a religious energy, a religious devotion, and

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Speaker 1: the university and the awful effect that they've they've had already.

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Speaker 1: Apparently those are two amazing stories.

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Speaker 2: So you're not gonna try to put out the best

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Speaker 2: Into the idea of who wrote it based on skin color.

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Speaker 1: article selection. Yeah, I'm picturing a house or a building

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Speaker 1: guess all we can do is our best, but it's

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Speaker 1: really disappointing that we the greatest country on earth let

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Speaker 2: So we've got an update on that guy who plunged

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Speaker 2: to the field at the Pittsburgh Pirates game, and then

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Speaker 2: another person that plunged to their death.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear this story? And a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: stuff on the way Stay here the terrifying moment a

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Speaker 1: man fell from his seat at Pittsburgh's PNC Park, landing

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Public Safety says the incident is being treated as

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Speaker 2: accidental and the man remains in the hospital in critical condition. Wow,

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Speaker 2: As we all know, if you commit suicide, we know

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Speaker 3: We look right now, and I told you before they're

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Speaker 3: They have ships that are loaded up with stuff, much

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Speaker 2: The key to this negotiation, and many negotiations, but the

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Speaker 1: Feel like quality's got to be thrown in there. Toys.

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Speaker 2: dryer when I moved in. I've been here, what going

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Speaker 2: on a year. The washing machine crapped out yesterday. Because

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Speaker 2: that's the way washing machines are in the modern world.

441
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Speaker 2: Not the ones my parents got that you could have

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Speaker 2: for thirty years before you had a repairman come look.

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Speaker 1: At them, right, and or the repairman would just change

444
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Speaker 1: out a belt which you could do yourself essentially and

445
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Speaker 1: to be up and run and as good as ever.

446
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: But so in a lot of categories. Yeah, the one

447
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Speaker 1: flaw of this, and I should probably do the numbers first,

448
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Speaker 1: but is that it does not measure satisfaction across time

449
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Speaker 1: for the product. A washer is not a washer is

450
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Speaker 1: not a washer. And if you're talking about you know,

451
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Speaker 1: the sort of you know it'll be found by a

452
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Speaker 1: future civilization still washing clothes appliances sometimes in the past,

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Speaker 1: although I did see a comparison that some of that's

454
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Speaker 1: the rosy glow of history. You remember it better than

455
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Speaker 1: it was really, but some of us anyway, But this

456
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Speaker 1: is interesting, even given that they looked at the time

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Speaker 1: price of eleven basic household goods appliances from nineteen fifties

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Typically, factory worker in nineteen fifty nine would

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Speaker 1: have to work from January first to the middle of

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Speaker 1: June to earn enough income to purchase those eleven appliances

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Speaker 1: half the year. A worker in nineteen seventy three would

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Speaker 1: have had to have worked from the first of the

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Speaker 1: year until the second week of April, and today's factory

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Speaker 1: worker would only have to work until the end of

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Speaker 1: January to earn enough income for those eleven appliances. Now

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Speaker 1: I see your point, Jack, but that the modern person

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Speaker 1: is working this a little more but one sixth of

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Speaker 1: the time that it took to buy those things in

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Speaker 1: the fifties. And you can't tell me they last six

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Speaker 1: times as long on average, or or have six times

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Speaker 1: the features or six times the quality in general. BOYD.

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Speaker 2: So I might disagree with that on some stuff. I

473
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Speaker 2: keep using toasters, but I know the answer in some

474
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Speaker 2: of these because I remember we had the same toaster

475
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Speaker 2: my whole life when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that now, at least not with the toasters.

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Speaker 2: I get a target, so it could last six times

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Speaker 2: as long twelve years instead of two I absolutely think

479
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Speaker 2: that could happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's in that example. Yeah, I haven't owned

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Speaker 1: a toaster. I don't think in twenty five years. It's

482
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Speaker 1: kind of outing. It's kind of funny. I'm at home

483
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Speaker 1: because I'm sick. I don't feel very good.

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Speaker 2: During the commercial break, I smelt burning toast, which is

485
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Speaker 2: one of the things you're supposed to watch out for.

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Speaker 2: I go out in the kitchen, there's toast burning. It says,

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Speaker 2: that's the problem with working from home. It might actually

488
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Speaker 2: be burning Christmas. Yeah, that's like the sign of a

489
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Speaker 2: massive stroke.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, my son was actually burned. Or alternatively, someone has

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Speaker 1: left the toast in too long, right, It's one of

492
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Speaker 1: those two things. Yeah, so make sure you check so anyway.

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Speaker 1: Rich Lowry's point is that you have to work a

494
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Speaker 1: fraction of the time to have the same lifestyle as

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Speaker 1: back in the day, with all the caveats Jack has

496
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Speaker 1: has lashed us with repeatedly. Uh, this is the process

497
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Speaker 1: of a society getting richer. Trump spoke of what we

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Speaker 1: really need. At at the end of the day, we

499
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Speaker 1: don't need anything except food and shelter. That doesn't mean

500
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Speaker 1: we should be content to settle for less rather than more.

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Speaker 1: The United States, for instance, he writes, has a higher

502
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Speaker 1: standard of living than Greece. According to CIA figures, US

503
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Speaker 1: had seventy four thousand dollars per capital blah blah blah,

504
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Grease had thirty six nine per capita. That doesn't mean

505
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Speaker 1: that people that are dying in the streets of Greece,

506
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: they just have less and lower quality stuff. Until now

507
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: everyone would have agreed that that is a bad thing

508
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Speaker 1: and should avoid taking any steps back down the ladder

509
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Speaker 1: of prosperity. And then is you know, he goes into

510
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Speaker 1: dolls for a minute, Well, grocery stores and the bins

511
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Speaker 1: in the produce section, all the choices we have, the freshness,

512
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Speaker 1: and you look at apples. Oh, there are too many

513
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Speaker 1: varieties to choose from or considered dolls. Among the major

514
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: brands that are Barbie, American Girl, Lol, Sprize Brats, Cabbage

515
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: Patch Kids, Drafts, dolls look like Horse and Rainbow High

516
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: all with a Disney variety of dolls and all sorts

517
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Speaker 1: of prices. We don't need a central authority telling us

518
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: which dollars are more necessary than others. The market does that.

519
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: All of this is off brand for President Trump, associated

520
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: with business success and consumersaccess. It's more natural for him

521
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: to be boosterish than to talk people into attempting accepting scarcity.

522
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: The sooner he can get out of the position of

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Speaker 1: explaining away might be imminent shortages and higher prices, the better. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the whole quality thing might just be almost

525
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Speaker 2: entirely cultural. And maybe the Chinese figured it out before

526
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Speaker 2: we figured it out in America, and we might have

527
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: figured it out earlier because quality was so big. I

528
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: remember Joe and I are old, but when we are kids,

529
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: everything was advertised as quality, not price. It was just quality, quality, quality,

530
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Speaker 2: for everything you're gonna buy. Somebody figured out that now

531
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Speaker 2: people don't give a crap about the quality.

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Speaker 1: They don't care if it's going to last a month

533
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Speaker 1: as long as it's cheap. And I love arguing about

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Speaker 1: ideas and what comparisons are valid and invalid, and how

535
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Speaker 1: a statistic might be misleading. I've enjoyed the conversation, but

536
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: it occurs to me as you get down to the

537
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Speaker 1: end of this conversation that in terms of policy, the

538
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: idea that what Trump is doing will yield American made

539
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: washing machines built by Americans with great jobs and Americans

540
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: will buy those significantly more expensive washing machines that last longer.

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Speaker 1: It's all a pipe dream.

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Speaker 2: What can happen, even in this random case if it did,

543
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Speaker 2: which I don't think it would. You can't have central

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Speaker 2: planning doesn't work. It's been tried a gazillion times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the minute you try something like this, one

546
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred things change and you're so far behind you'll never

547
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Speaker 1: catch up trying centrally plan. On the other hand, are

548
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Speaker 1: there strategic industries, products, etc. That we cannot, for the

549
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Speaker 1: love of George Washington be dependent on our greatest adversaries

550
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: to supply us one hundred percent? Yes, oh my god.

551
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: The fact that our ain't it.

552
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: No pharmaceuticals, yes, computer chips, yes, variety of other things.

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00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: We'll finish strong next.

554
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Strong. An overturned truck covered a Texas highway and eight

555
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: million dimes, sparking a wild frenzy of drivers picking up

556
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: like three dimes and saying, this is actually hard.

557
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Speaker 1: Let's just go no kidding, right, how many dimes? Eight million?

558
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Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? Joe's what do we got coming up?

559
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh right? A major breaking plunging out of the stands

560
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Speaker 1: into the outfield.

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Speaker 2: Update Okay, I wanted to get this on one more

562
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Speaker 2: time because it's so stupid. Here's a Democratic house member.

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Speaker 4: First, they came for the Latinos outside of the home depots,

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Speaker 4: and I didn't say anything about it because I'm not

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Speaker 4: a Latino at the home depot.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that pause was him thinking it sounded

567
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Speaker 2: better when I said it to myself.

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: This kind of sounds hmm. Oh no, I take it

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Speaker 1: the opposite way I thought he thought it. He was thinking,

570
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm riffing here. I'm rapping, I'm rhyming this.

571
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm like Jesse Jackson over here. There will be a

572
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: statue to me because of this. Yeah, that was what's

573
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: what's his crank? What's his crank's name, John Johnson of Georgia. Yeah, beautiful.

574
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: So so we.

575
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Argued violently over whether this guy tried to kill himself

576
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Speaker 2: by falling out of the stands on the baseball field.

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00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, this guy, who all of his friends and

578
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: former coaches are saying is a hell of a nice fella.

579
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: He was sitting out there when Andrew McCutcheon hit a

580
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: two run double to put the Pirates ahead four to three.

581
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Video appears to show Mark Woods. That's the gent's name,

582
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: springing up, toppling over the railing and somersaulting through the

583
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Speaker 1: air before crashing onto the warning track below. Pittsburgh newspaper

584
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: reported that winnesses because they asked everybody around him what

585
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: was going on, described that twenty year old mister Markwood

586
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: was growing exciting, excited that the pirates were rallying quote,

587
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Speaker 1: and had taken off his shirt and poured beer on

588
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Speaker 1: himself before mccutcheons at bat. Yes, this is the detail

589
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Speaker 1: I needed. Yes, so not only was he drinking, he

590
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: was drunk enough that he was taking off his shirt

591
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Speaker 1: and pouring beer all over his head because the pirates

592
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Speaker 1: were rallying in a freaking April game.

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00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, so alcohol may have been involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you think loud? That is funny. Hey kids, it's

595
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: that time again with Armstrong and Getty. It might be

596
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: a nice guy, but he's the.

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Speaker 2: Kind of guy that pours takes off his shirt and

598
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: pours beer on.

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Speaker 1: His head when his team makes a comeback. So let's

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00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: think this through. When you dry off this stickiness, the

601
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: smell come on. Now, here's your host for final thoughts,

602
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Joe Getty. Let's get a final thought from everybody on

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Speaker 1: the crew, Michael Angelo let us off. Final thought.

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00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if I was going to end my

605
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: life at a baseball stadium, I'd make sure I had

606
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: a giant foam finger on each hand and then dive

607
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: off to make sure viral video.

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00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, that's dark and stupid. Moving along Green nurse

609
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: teemed and use woman As a final thought.

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00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: Katie, I don't now I don't because now I have

611
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: the visual of Michaelangelo doing that, and everything that I

612
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: was just going to say left my brain.

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00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: So there we go. Oh boy, yeah, way to go,

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00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Michael Hi Jack. Final thought for us.

615
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: So I'm going to a new Marvel movie tonight at

616
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: the theater, Thunderbolts, which looks great and funny to me,

617
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: but the National review says it's anti American, anti Trump,

618
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: and very depressing.

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Speaker 1: So I have that forward too. We'll see. I'll give

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Speaker 1: you a review on Monday. That sounds like a great

621
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Friday night. Right. You can be really misled by trailers? Yeah, yeah, gosh.

622
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: My final thought economies. Markets are complicated. Let them be

623
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: as free as humanly possible. Central planning is terrible. It

624
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: never works.

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00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty wrap pick up another grueling four hour workday.

626
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: And look, your baseball team's gonna play a lot of games.

627
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: All right, drink the beer, stay in your seats, stay shure,

628
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: but to get home safely, stay shirt. Nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: see her nipples, sir. Wow, so good Armstrong Egeddy dot com.

630
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: Would you have a lot of great reasons the hot lane

631
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Katie's corner, get some swag, drop us a note. He's

632
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to change his name and move. I mean

633
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: if he's okay, I mean he has serious head injuries. Wow.

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00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: But we'll see you on Monday.

635
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be many updates on a whole bunch

636
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: of different major stories. See you then, God bless America.

637
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty is an unpredictable East. What a powerful metaphor.

638
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: I was wondering, you know what you felt about that?

639
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: Whatever you say that in child, listen Blue Kalay.

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 4: We're a look.

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00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: It's one final message.

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00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: Aron is well behaved? Is there goodie two shoes brother Canada,

643
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: who by the way, has never had a girlfriend. Just

644
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: saying a great Friday, you mother, Armstrong and Gaddy