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Speaker 1: Is now officially open.

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Speaker 2: This is Draft Season presented by Moody's, a proud part

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants. I am John Schmoke. Back

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Speaker 2: after a couple weeks with no live shows. We did

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Speaker 2: have a show, but it wasn't live. So a couple

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Speaker 2: weeks of college football to catch up on, and to

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Speaker 2: do that with Tony Pauline from sports Keta and myself

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Speaker 2: is our buddy Mike Redner, who does a great job

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Speaker 2: covering both the NFL and college football for CBS. Mike's

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Speaker 2: mid season Top fifty came out about a week ago.

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Speaker 2: We'll touch on that and all the latest in college football. Mike,

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Speaker 2: good to see you man.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on Pellas.

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Speaker 1: No, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We always love having you on every year this time

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Speaker 2: year than again before the draft, Tony, We've had a

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Speaker 2: couple weeks to kind of catch up on here.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with everything that's gone on at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a new head coach, they can't win a football

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Speaker 2: game all of a sudden, and the draft future of

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Speaker 2: Drew Aller is now in question, whether or not he's

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Speaker 2: even gonna be back at Penn State next year.

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Speaker 4: I doubt well, first of all, I doubt he's about

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Speaker 4: back at Penn State. I mean we talked about this

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Speaker 4: after the two thousand actually right before the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: five draft, when a law announced that he was returning

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Speaker 4: to college for another season, and I said, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think he made a good move. We turned into college,

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Speaker 4: but I think he really needed to change the scenery.

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Speaker 4: Probably should look into the transferport up going someplace else.

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Speaker 4: And you know, this is quickly becoming as I've said,

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Speaker 4: Tom and Tom again, you know, Christian Hackenberg part two.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't win again, they didn't beat Iowa,

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Speaker 4: but the offense showed some pep in it at Penn

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Speaker 4: State's offense last week. So I mean, right now is

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Speaker 4: you got to expect that duwel Law is going to

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Speaker 4: be in the draft. Where is he going to be selected?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's not a top one hundred pick, where

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Speaker 4: he's probably gonna be a Day three pick. And now

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Speaker 4: you've got the injury that's factored in. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be an interesting story moving towards the draft.

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Speaker 2: Mike, what what kind of hits you about what's going

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Speaker 2: on in Penn State? I think you would one Penn

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Speaker 2: State player the guard in your top fifty. I don't

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Speaker 2: think there was another one. You can correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Now he's the only one. And I do love and Yolani,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, it's it's not one now as good as

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Speaker 3: team as I think, And like, like I said, people

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Speaker 3: were getting hyped up, but I was like, there there

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Speaker 3: really aren't that many top prospects on this team and

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Speaker 3: two aller just the guy we saw first half of

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Speaker 3: last season. Where's the guy we saw second half of

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Speaker 3: last season? The guy we saw second half last season

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Speaker 3: was undraftable. The guy we saw first half was like intriguing.

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Speaker 3: It was like, hey, if that guy gets better, he's

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Speaker 3: got insane tools. He didn't get better, he got worse.

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Speaker 3: He was the guy we saw the second half, and

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Speaker 3: then he gets hurt, and I think his only route

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Speaker 3: is petitioning for a fifth year at this point. And again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be at Penn State

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Speaker 3: if he gets a fifth year. I think they were

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Speaker 3: pretty much done with him at this point. But he

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Speaker 3: ain't getting drafted anywhere outside of maybe like the Quinn

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Speaker 3: viewers range. Even that, it's just hard to really buy

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Speaker 3: into anything you put on tape this year.

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Speaker 2: And then Tony over the last couple of weeks, you

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Speaker 2: have a trio of quarterbacks that you want to hit

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Speaker 2: might go back and forth on on these three guys

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Speaker 2: and kind of what you've seen so far this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there are some guys that I think

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Speaker 4: you've got to start to focus on. Everyone talked about

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Speaker 4: Jewel Lar with the Some had high hopes. I did not.

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Speaker 4: But you gotta look at as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 4: Texas A and M. The prior week twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 4: both quality opponents. I mean, he doesn't have great receivers.

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Speaker 4: He's got a decent offensive line. He's got all the

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Speaker 4: physical skills. When you look at his size, you look

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Speaker 4: but he's got RPO quarterback mobility. I just think people

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Speaker 4: And Green from Markets or Tyland Green is why I

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Speaker 4: think can make some noise in the pre draft process

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Speaker 4: leading up to April's event.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think whether it's Shrine Bowl or Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 3: he's the guy that that efen is gonna be so

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Speaker 3: big because as you said, they're kind of overmatched. Every

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Speaker 3: time you watch him on tape Arkansas, he going against

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Speaker 3: the SEC or whether it was the nerd name game,

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Speaker 3: it's like he doesn't have receivers that these other quarterback prospects,

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Speaker 3: the other top guys are working with, where it's just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, ultimate, at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 3: need windows, and if you don't have windows, it's going

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Speaker 3: to always be difficult to look good. So he's kind

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Speaker 3: of kept his head above water most games. I do

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Speaker 3: think his accuracy is still an issue with me in

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Speaker 3: terms of just like if we're talking about top couple rounds,

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Speaker 3: but he's going to get drafted, it's just can he

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Speaker 3: sneak into higher than a day three pick at this point.

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Speaker 3: But I think the running ability with him is unique

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Speaker 3: because it's not you know, it's not like running ability

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Speaker 3: and it's Jaleen Milro. It's running ability. And he's six six,

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Speaker 3: you see technical improvement, Like you see the work that

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Speaker 3: he's put in over the course of his career, even

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Speaker 3: from last year to this year at Arkansas, like it

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Speaker 3: looks the the fakes, the bookwork. It looks more second

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Speaker 3: with his kind of tools, those are the guys you

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Speaker 3: want to develop at the next level. So I still

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Speaker 3: think there is development that needs to be had, But

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Speaker 3: fan of his game, and with all these quarterbacks dropping

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Speaker 4: One guy who I think is getting better. I think

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Speaker 4: he's stay in school. But he's going to start to

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Speaker 4: enter the conversation. Is Nico Iiama Lavella now UCLA. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you had very promising freshman year at Tennessee, you had

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Speaker 4: They get the crud pounded out of him the first

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Speaker 4: four games, the coach gets fired. Then from that Penn

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Speaker 4: Then it comes back against Michigan State, not a strong team,

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Speaker 4: Maryland this year. Last week I'm sorry last weekend did

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Speaker 4: have two picks. But again I think maybe with I

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Speaker 4: am I am of Leveya, we may see him starting

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Speaker 4: to pull the pieces together. I want to reiterate, I

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Speaker 4: think it's right now it's best for him to go

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Speaker 4: back for another another year on the college field. But again,

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Speaker 4: you look at the physical package, the size, the athleticism,

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Speaker 4: the arm strength. If those technical things continue to improve

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Speaker 4: people are going to be talking about more as far

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a guy who in the offseason, and

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Speaker 3: even if last year wasn't like great at Tennessee, I

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Speaker 3: put him in my top ten quarterbacks just because it's

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Speaker 3: hard to deny how insane his physical tools are. I mean,

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Speaker 3: at six', five he is. TWITCHY i mean he moves

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Speaker 3: like some of the guys we're talking about as top

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Speaker 3: fifty picks at wide receiver in this draft. Class he

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Speaker 3: Inaccurate he just downfield as a. Passer last, YEAR i

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Speaker 3: think he really struggle and that gets highlighted obviously in

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Speaker 3: That tennessee, offense and Obviously tennessee does not do much

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Speaker 3: to develop their quarterbacks in terms of what you want

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Speaker 3: to see in THE. Nfl But i'm with you that

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Speaker 3: there's a lot there to work with that He ever

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Speaker 3: Since Scosh i'm blanket on the name of THE oc

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Speaker 3: were going to get From Ayam. Aliam so, yeah not this.

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Speaker 3: YEAR i would be poor if he's in this year draft,

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Speaker 3: class and if you declare, it he's probably not going.

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Speaker 3: Highly and there is some offfield stuff with him too

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Speaker 3: that does have to get checked out WITH nfl. Teams

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Speaker 3: but the guy is as talented as most of the

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Speaker 3: guys were talking about here in the first round conversation right.

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Speaker 2: Now and Then Tony ole miss they haven't missed a

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Speaker 4: Huh, well you, know it's kind of funny because three

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Speaker 4: weeks ago when their starter got hurt And Trinidad chambliss

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Speaker 4: came in AGAINST. Lsu you asked me about. Him nobody

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Speaker 4: SOME nfl scouts THAT i, know and they like this.

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Speaker 4: Guy they like him as A day three. Pick he

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Speaker 4: plays good against THE. Lsu he played really good Against.

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Speaker 4: Georgia he's a little bit, small but AND i kind

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Speaker 4: of shy away from those smaller. Quarterbacks they really haven't

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Speaker 4: panned out. Well but, STILL i, mean here's a guy

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Speaker 4: In Trinidad chambliss was a backup In mississippi before the season.

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Speaker 4: Started you, know now we're talking about him as potentially

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Speaker 4: being a very, late a late round. Pick AN rpl type,

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Speaker 4: guy maybe a backup that you can. Develop they Play

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Speaker 4: oklahoma this, Weekend oklahoma's number one pass rushing him in THE.

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Speaker 4: if he can continue to progress on the. Field from

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Speaker 4: what we've seen in the past three.

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Speaker 6: Weeks he's got an Arm chambliss like he's six foot

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Speaker 6: he can really sling.

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Speaker 3: It but he does have the kind of the problem

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Speaker 3: THEN i feel like all the shorter, quarterbacks especially with big, arms,

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Speaker 3: he really wants to show it off every single time

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Speaker 3: he gets a. Chance AND i think that's where a

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Speaker 3: lot of his inaccuracy comes. From is he's trying to, throw,

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Speaker 3: like you, know a fifteen yard dig as hard as

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Speaker 3: possible when the guy's wide. Open it's like you don't

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Speaker 3: always have to put the mustard on the, brock but

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Speaker 3: you can see the. Talent he just is going to

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Speaker 3: played against top competition and obviously The Ole miss, offense

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Speaker 3: asking him to. Do So i've been flooried. THOUGH i,

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Speaker 3: mean the guy is a. Gamer the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: come in wasn't even the starter and played as well

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Speaker 3: as he. Has that's going to be intriguing for a

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Speaker 3: lot of. People but uphill climb when you're that height

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Speaker 3: and haven't been dominant at the collegiate level to be

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Speaker 1: Pick tony a couple other Guys i'm.

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Speaker 4: Trying, considers especially when you consider how all these smaller

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Speaker 4: Round we really have never lived up the.

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Speaker 1: Expectations, tony you have a couple other guys you want

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah you KNOW. Tcu everyone talks about their. Offense they

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Speaker 4: had a game that took almost five hours to complete

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Speaker 4: this weekend Against baylor because of all kinds of. Delays

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Speaker 4: with whether they've got two, Defenders i'd like to keep

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Speaker 4: an eye On Caleb eloms or there's a one gap

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Speaker 4: pursuit linebacker flies all over the, field really good in,

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Speaker 4: space AND i like their underclassman Safety Jamal. JOHNSON i,

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Speaker 4: mean this guy's a torpedo against the, rump but he's

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Speaker 4: got solid ball. Skills AND i think both of those.

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Speaker 4: Guys kayleb Elims or is a senior who's great as

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Speaker 4: basically A street for agent by. SCOUTS i think he's

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Speaker 4: A day three. Pick And Jalen johnson's a guy Who

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Speaker 4: Jamel johnson's a guy WHO i think could make some

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Speaker 4: ways at what looks like a very weak safety position

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Speaker 4: if he. Enters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah SO i actually haven't gotten To johnson. TAPE i

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Speaker 3: need to Watch, johnson BUT i have watched Elms orr

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Speaker 3: AND i actually got asked by some about the Shrine

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Speaker 3: bolt scouting staff and got asked to watch him over the.

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Speaker 3: WEEKEND i, was, SO i invite this, guy like this

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Speaker 3: is a one hundred. Percent WHAT i saw from him

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Speaker 3: on tape is a guy who IS i can't believe

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Speaker 3: he Got street For agent grades because you see the twitch,

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Speaker 3: immediately it's like lateral. Agility you see him as a BlimE,

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Speaker 3: er his ability to track down quarterbacks outside the pocket

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Speaker 3: like he's going to test really. Well AND i just

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Speaker 3: love how he stays, square whether it's as a, tackler

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Speaker 3: whether it's taking on, blocks he doesn't get out of.

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Speaker 3: Position he's not like a lot of athletic. Linebackers they play,

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Speaker 3: jumpie they want to get, downhill they want to get

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Speaker 3: ahead of. Blocks you don't see that from. Him he

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Speaker 3: trusts his athleticism, enough he trusts who is enough that

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Speaker 3: he is very assignment sounds, still SO i think one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent a draft. Pick, now with, linebackers you got

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Speaker 3: to be something special to be a top hundred. Pick

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Speaker 3: nowadays you only get like four or five each. Year

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Speaker 3: SO i don't think he's quite in that. Range but

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Speaker 3: this guy's Going day three for.

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Speaker 4: Sure And.

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Speaker 2: Tony then a couple of wide receivers that that have

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Speaker 2: kind of caught your interests last couple.

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Speaker 4: Weeks, yeah guys that people don't talk. About you, know

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Speaker 4: you talk About, indiana it's Always Elijah. Sharat but you,

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Speaker 4: know as we saw from That illinois, Game Amari Cooper

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Speaker 4: junior is a guy to keep an eye on. It

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Speaker 4: And houston has a budding. Receiver And Amari thomas has

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Speaker 4: put up some big time, numbers has showed himself to

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Speaker 4: be a good vertical. RECEIVER i, mean two GUYS i

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Speaker 4: think made day three type guys just to keep an

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Speaker 4: eye on moving.

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Speaker 1: Forward you Have cooper in your top, fifty, Right, MIKE i.

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Speaker 3: DO i Love. COOPER i think he's better Than. Sura,

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Speaker 3: TRUTHFULLY i think he's a better. ATHLETE i think his

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Speaker 3: game is just a little bit more projectable stots like

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Speaker 3: a contest to catch outside type of wide, receiver but

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Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily have the traits you want of that sort

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Speaker 3: of wide. Rechiever at the next. LEVEL i think he's

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Speaker 3: gonna be, solid BUT i Think cooper can be more than.

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Speaker 3: THAT i think he can be like a real number

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Speaker 3: two type of wide receiver and. Offense and it's funny

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Speaker 3: they put these guys together BECAUSE i think they're very

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Speaker 3: similar type of players here and. NOW i would be

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Speaker 3: surprised If thomas declares in this day and age coming

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Speaker 3: From houston only being a, junior because with what he's

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Speaker 3: put on, tape he could go up a, level right

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Speaker 3: like he went FROM uab To. Hear he could go

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Speaker 3: one more level, up get a couple million bucks at this,

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Speaker 3: level and then even be if he balls out at you,

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Speaker 3: know like AN lsu or, something he'd go much higher than.

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Speaker 3: This BECAUSE i see a guy who is tuned. UP

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Speaker 3: i see a very twitchy, athlete easy mover with real.

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Speaker 3: Size that's the thing THAT i love about Both cooper

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Speaker 3: And thomas is that they are well built wide receivers

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Speaker 3: who can run a slant but also then get down

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Speaker 3: the football. Field and that's a unique, combination especially WHEN

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Speaker 3: i think a lot of receivers coming out of college

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Speaker 3: nowadays are in the under one. Ninety you see a

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Speaker 3: lot more in today's day and age of like, speedsters

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Speaker 3: guys who aren't your bigger bodied wide. Receivers but then

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Speaker 3: what works at THE nfl more often than not the

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Speaker 3: guys who are two hundred, plus, right the guys who

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Speaker 3: have size to, them who can really then block and

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Speaker 3: do other things at the next. Level so both these

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Speaker 3: guys have. That i'm a fan of.

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Speaker 1: Both, YEAH i Watched cooper this.

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Speaker 2: Morning you're, right he's two hundred, Pounds mike it, chose

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Speaker 2: he's willing to go over the, middle he's. Twitchy he's

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Speaker 2: also a vertical slot guy. Too he can win over the.

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Speaker 2: Top So i'm with, You. Cooper very impressive and tony pass.

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Speaker 2: Catchers you want to watch in one of the games this.

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Speaker 2: Weekend houston And Arizona, state and one of those as

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Speaker 2: will be someone that we're going to talk about In

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Speaker 2: mike's top.

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Speaker 1: Ten, well, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Jordan, tyson WHO i know is a favorite of. YOURS

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Speaker 4: i mean you talk about not the bigger, guys but

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Speaker 4: it may be A Jordan addison type that just just

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Speaker 4: as smart as able to separate through his, routes catches

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Speaker 4: everything That johnton also a tough. GUY i mean he

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Speaker 4: takes a, pounding pulls himself off the, field gets back

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Speaker 4: in the. Huddle one guy would keep an eye. On From,

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Speaker 4: houston we talked about A Mari Thomas Tanner, cozeal a

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Speaker 4: transfer from Ball, state starting to turn it. On a

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Speaker 4: real good pass. Catcher last year at Ball state ninety

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Speaker 4: four receptions for eight hundred and thirty nine. Yards this

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Speaker 4: year thirty six, receptions three hundred and fifty. YARDS i

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Speaker 4: don't want to classify him as a move tight, end

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Speaker 4: but he is a terrific pass catching tight end who

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Speaker 4: does a solid job the few times they ask him to.

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Speaker 4: BLOCK i Think, cozeal you, know when you get it's

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Speaker 4: not a good tight end crop you never know what's

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Speaker 4: going to. Happen HAPPEN i have him right now as

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Speaker 4: a mid day three, pick but he goes through the draft,

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Speaker 4: process maybe play as well at The shrine Or Senior,

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Speaker 4: bowl has some good testing numbers at the combine Or

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Speaker 4: pro day. WORKOUT i, mean he's a guy WHO i

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Speaker 4: think up jump up draft, boards.

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Speaker 1: You, Know, mike he, Was, Mike i'm.

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Speaker 3: SORRY i would Say ozill is interesting BECAUSE i think

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Speaker 3: the way you see teams moving towards a lot of

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Speaker 3: twelve thirteen, personnel they're either like coveting a backup tight

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Speaker 3: end who's a super good inline, blocker or something Like

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Speaker 3: oziel who's a super good receiver who you can use

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Speaker 3: him in space as a blocker if he's not your

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't have to be your why he can

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Speaker 3: go block a, linebacker, right he can go block a

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Speaker 3: corner safety at the second.

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Speaker 1: Level seattle uses a royo like, that, Right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah like that's it's kind of like an either

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Speaker 3: or you get teams doing a little bit of. Both

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Speaker 3: SO i think that second tight end position you're just

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Speaker 3: going to see coveted a little bit more around THE nfl.

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Speaker 2: Nowadays i'm with, You, mike AND i think that's a

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Speaker 2: good time to transition now over to your top.

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Speaker 1: Fifty you can find it ON.

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Speaker 2: Cbs but before we do, That draft season is presented By,

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Speaker 2: moody's a proud partner of The New York, Giants, Decode, Rest, Unlock,

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Speaker 2: Starre Jordan tyson.

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Speaker 1: Here i'm a big fan of his.

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Speaker 2: Two he's probably my wide receiver number, one THOUGH i

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Speaker 2: do think that could change by the end of the.

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Speaker 2: Year but you see him at check it at number

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Speaker 2: four on on on your, list AND i would not

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Speaker 2: put him in like The Marvin Harrison junior or a

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Speaker 2: elite neighbors type of. Category AND i See jermal, McCoy

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Speaker 2: a guy who's number seven on you. List you know

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Speaker 2: he's coming off an, injury barely hasn't played this. Year

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Speaker 2: does that speak to how jumbled and kind of unsettled

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Speaker 2: this top ten really is in this year's draft.

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Speaker 3: Class, YES i think there's really only two guys WHO

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Speaker 3: i would call top five picks in this, class and you,

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Speaker 3: know like top five great picks and his Route Maine

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Speaker 3: miami And Peter Woods. Clemson it's like after, that there's

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Speaker 3: not a surefire blue chip stud sort of prospect in my.

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Speaker 3: Eyes But, tyson you just know he's going to be. Good,

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Speaker 3: yeah how good is he going to? Be i'm not so.

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Speaker 3: Certain but with the premium that is the wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: position when you see how much they get paid relative

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Speaker 3: to everyone, Else it's, like even if he ends up

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Speaker 3: wide receiver number twenty in THE, nfl that guy gets

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Speaker 3: paid over thirty million dollars a, year and that guy

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Speaker 3: is super valuable to your football. Team So i'd take

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Speaker 3: that guy still when it comes to either him or

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Speaker 3: like you, know some of the other top guys are

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Speaker 3: like a tackle who might be a guard In Spencer,

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Speaker 3: Fano it's, like, no just give me the valuable position

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Speaker 3: WHO i know has a really high. Floor so that's

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Speaker 3: WHY i Put Jordan tyson. There even if Like Calee

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Speaker 3: downs who's behind, him he's an awesome. Player high safety

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Speaker 3: in THE nfl makes like what the thirty fifth wide

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Speaker 3: receiver makes in THE. Nfl so it's not it's just

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Speaker 3: like a value proposition there at the top of the.

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Speaker 4: Draft you know you called you titled your top fifty

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Speaker 4: in intriguing. Class i'm gonna be a little bit. More

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Speaker 4: i'm gonna throw shit on. IT i think it's an uninspired. Class,

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Speaker 4: Now john AND i are here In New york and

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Speaker 4: The jets row in, seven and if you listen to

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Speaker 4: the talk, radio everybody's, like, well The, jets you're gonna

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Speaker 4: get the first pick of the. Draft And i'm thinking to,

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Speaker 4: myself this is not a year when you want the

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Speaker 4: first pick of the, draft because you, know it's not

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Speaker 4: like last year that we'll talk About Ruby bain in a,

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Speaker 4: second but Without Dual carter And Travis hunter And Cam,

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Speaker 4: ward it's nothing like twenty twenty four with the three

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks at the top and the two dominant.

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Speaker 2: RECEIVERS i just think, that you, know And, joel by the,

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Speaker 2: way that year SO i, said and You joelt that

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Speaker 2: year too a tackle.

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Speaker 4: Exactly there you. Go AND i just think, that you,

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Speaker 4: know if there's a year that you don't want to

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Speaker 4: have a very early, pick and it looks like The

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Speaker 4: New York jets are going to have a very early,

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Speaker 4: pick this isn't the. Year Ruby bain is your number one.

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Speaker 4: Player he's the number one player on a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Boards where would you Compare Ruby bain or great, him,

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Speaker 4: say compared to A Dual carter from a year?

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Speaker 1: Ago good.

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00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: Question it's tough because distinctly different type of. PLAYERS i

431
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: felt better About carter, though but that was like final.

432
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: Grades we'll see Where baine ends. Up BUT i do

433
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 3: feel really good About bane AND i do actually think

434
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 3: of TODAY'S nfl with a lot of people using these

435
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: like three four five texts to just Like spike and

436
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: create havoc as like. Stunters he's tailor made for something like.

437
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: THAT i, mean that guy can just create havoc on

438
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 3: just a like a bulrush rep or something of that

439
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 3: nature where he just has to go straight. Ahead but,

440
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 3: Yeah carter was The carter was a special. PROSPECT i

441
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 3: had a really high grade On Apitol, carter So i'm

442
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 3: probably gonna end up with the higher grade On.

443
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 4: Carter you.

444
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: Know It's mike gets funny when you talk about the edge.

445
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: Prospects AND i think some of the, smaller twitchier guys

446
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 2: like Like bally out Of Texas tech are kind of emerging, here,

447
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: Right BUT i think this is a much different type

448
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 2: of edge. Class it's got a lot Of Bill belichick

449
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: edges is WHAT i call, Him guys that are two

450
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 2: seventy two seventy five that are just gonna kind of

451
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: crush the pocket on you when with power they can

452
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: play five. Tech they could even move into three tech

453
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: on passing. Downs this is a much different type of bigger,

454
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 2: bodied almost true four to three defensive ends than we've

455
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: SEEN i think in recent, years oh one hundred.

456
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: Percent and that's also why it's maybe not that exciting

457
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: of a class because that's not really where THE nfl is.

458
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: Going and you, know most of those guys they almost

459
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: have to play INSIDE i look AT i THINK i

460
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: just talked about this the other day on the pod

461
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: About Zach harrison for The, falcons who was a defensive

462
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 3: end coming out Of Ohio, state like that's where he,

463
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: played did never kick. Inside but he's six, six two.

464
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: Seventy that guy in THE nfl now is a defense

465
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: tack and that's Where Zach harrison's ended up in year

466
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: three here like, that and he's making plays. There that's

467
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: what you have to be because you have to play

468
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 3: in space so much at that at defensive. End but

469
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: also you need guys who can create havoc on the.

470
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: Interior SO i think a lot of these, guys whether

471
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: it's Like Keldric falk From, auburn Even Ruben, bain they

472
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: may end up in THE nfl as defensive. Tackle so

473
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: if you want a true edge, rusher there's really not

474
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: that many in this class in, port but there.

475
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: Are a lot of bigger defensive. ENDS i, mean if

476
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 4: you need that sort of, player you know the twenty

477
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: twenty six draft is going to you can find one

478
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: literally through the first couple of. Rounds, obviously the talk

479
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 4: is always about. Quarterbacks you alluded to it, earlier AND

480
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: i agree with. You the guys that everyone expected to

481
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: rise to the top have. Not And i'm not including

482
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: Arch manning in that group, because As john will tell,

483
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 4: you we never had you, know never had Arch manning

484
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: rated that. High we just wanted to see him. Play

485
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 4: you Got Fernando mendoza Of indiana as your number three.

486
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 4: PLAYER i would agree he's the top quarterback in this year's.

487
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 4: DRAFT i like his. DEVELOPMENT i, thought you, know when

488
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 4: you saw him In, california you saw a lot of

489
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 4: good physical. Traits you saw the arm, strength you saw the,

490
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 4: athleticism the ability to run with the, ball but there

491
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: was a lot of. Inconsistency now he's starting to pull

492
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: it together At indian and he's getting. BETTER i don't

493
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: think he's he's been a Cam Ward aba twenty twenty,

494
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: four where Cam ward basically put That miami offense on

495
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 4: his shoulders and carried that team through the. Season but

496
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: we're seeing, some uh some improvement From Fernando. Mendoza my question,

497
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: is AND i know that this is just, speculation do

498
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: you Think mendoza wo enters the? Draft BECAUSE i think Under,

499
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: signetti the the development that he has, shown and As

500
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: john will tell, You i'm A Kurt signetti. FAN i

501
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 4: think he's the best coach in, football pro or. COLLEGE

502
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: i think another year of, that you, know will really

503
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: catapult him and really improve and polish his. Game it'll

504
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: be a little bit easier now with the nil money

505
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: he probably could get in an ideal of five to

506
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 4: six million. Dollars granted it's not what it's not gonna

507
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 4: match what he would get if he was a top

508
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: ten or top top first round pick from THE. Nfl

509
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: but from your point of, view just your, opinion do

510
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: you Think MENDOZA'S nfl ready right? Now do you think

511
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 4: he'd be better off going back to college for one more.

512
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 3: Year i've always pro stay in college as long as

513
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: you can until like you really have, mastered until you're

514
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: really just the game's easy for, you and then that's you,

515
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: know that's what you saw from Like jane gains, right,

516
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 3: yeah five. Years by his fifth, year it looked all

517
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: second nature and then he hits THE nfl Ready like that's.

518
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: You that's your best bet two because your first contract

519
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: ain't ain't the real, deal, right that's not what you're

520
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: playing for if you, are even if money's your a big,

521
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: goal especially, quarterback it's a second. Contract so like it

522
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 3: all pales into what develops you the best for that second.

523
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: Deal so i'm with you. Now the one thing is

524
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: they're gonna Lose Omar cooper And Elesa strode after this.

525
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: Year you will not have unless they really hit the

526
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: portal hard for, receivers but you won't have TWO nfl

527
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: receivers At. Indiana the guy's coming to tell we're not

528
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: gonna be as. Good so he could be, better but

529
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: his stats could look worse because he doesn't have those.

530
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Guys so it really is just gonna come down to

531
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: where where is where's THE nfl c if everyone else falls,

532
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: Off if he's really the last man standing and the

533
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: desperation wins, out and he's gonna be going number one

534
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: overall number two. Overall it's just gonna be hard to

535
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: tell a guy not to make the leap if that's

536
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: already worse stance in THE. Nfl.

537
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: Eyes, yeah BUT i would agree with, you especially a

538
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: getting of that second contract another year on the college.

539
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: Field and you talked About Jaden, GAMS i Mean Cam,

540
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: wharton you remember his. Star he was in the twenty

541
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: twenty four, draft signed to THE nl to deal With,

542
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: miami and look what happened with. Him just a couple

543
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: other guys in your top, fifty and these are my.

544
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: Questions Don Dae moore's number eight played five games in

545
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, four started. None Ty simpson number thirty, seven

546
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: played six games in twenty twenty, four started. None Trevor,

547
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: goldsby the offensive lineman who's having a real good year At.

548
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: Texas he's number twenty three on your, list started two

549
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: games and in twenty twenty. FOUR i, believe ironically you can correct.

550
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: Me HOW i long for Four Cameron williams When williams

551
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 4: Cup banks was also. Hurt, yeah but my question is

552
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: does that minimum minimal body of work concern? You does

553
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: it factor into your rankings at? All one?

554
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 3: PERCENT i mean that's you don't want one year wonder

555
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: guys like The ideally you want a guy who has

556
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: played a bunch of. Football now with, them you you

557
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: want a good excuse for why they didn't. Play and

558
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: if you're sitting behind you, know guy who was the

559
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: top hundred pick of, quarterback yeah you. Get if you

560
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: sit behind two offensive tackles that were both draft picks That,

561
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: texas it's, Like, okay we can't get white and, play

562
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: but you still do want to see them play more.

563
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Football AND i ideally they'll come back to school and

564
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: get that opportunity to play more and solidify their drafts

565
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: dock even. More but we're not stacking by, Board and

566
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: especially in this year's, CLASS i put so many of

567
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: these guys in Because i'm just, like they're the. Best

568
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: there's no one else worthy of taking their. Spots WHEN

569
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: i did my mock draft this, week putting guys at

570
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: the back end of this first, Round i'm, Like i'm

571
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: really going to put him like this is this is

572
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: WHO i have to go. With it just wasn't good

573
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: by that point. Point so that's Why i'm throwing them in,

574
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 3: there is because it's not like they're taking the spots

575
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: of guys who are surefire, studs Especially. Goosebying this tackle,

576
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: CLASS i the tackle class kind of. Deteriorated there's not

577
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: a lot of these guys look that good. Anymore so,

578
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah i'll get the guy who at least looks good

579
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: through five, games even if it's that's you, know the

580
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: first five games of his. Career at least he's playing good.

581
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: Football you. Know the other guys aren't playing good. Football

582
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: so that's that was kind of the thought process in my,

583
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: eyes is an IDEALLY i, wouldn't but it's just this

584
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: year you kind of.

585
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: Have, to you, Know, Mike it's funny you bring that

586
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: up BECAUSE i think heading into this, year we thought

587
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: the offensive tackle group might be one of the better.

588
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: Ones and and And tony AND i talked about that

589
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: heading in and some of the guys aren't playing. Well

590
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: other guys are, like oh, no not a, tackle you're

591
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: a guard Guards and that's really and and EVEN i

592
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: think the top tackle on your. Board now you goa From.

593
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 2: Miami you look at, him he looks like a. Guard

594
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: like if you just look at his body, type he

595
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: looks like a guard. Too so you're, right this class

596
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: isn't what we thought it was gonna.

597
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Be, YEAH i, THINK i said ON Cbs Sports eric

598
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: the other, Day i'm, like WHAT i thought was gonna

599
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: be a good tap class turned into a great guard.

600
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: Class and because all these, guys whether it's fan of

601
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: whether It's, proctor maybe Even, mawioa depending on who wants,

602
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: Them it's, LIKE i think a lot of them are

603
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: best off at. Guard i'm best. OFF i JUST i

604
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't play them at. Tackle like a lot of, Times

605
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: i'm willing to give guys the benefit of the, doubt

606
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: BUT i think With procter And fano, Specifically i'm just

607
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: like they are guards at this, point and there'll be

608
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: good guards in THE nfl scheme specific maybe for both of.

609
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: Them But i'm kind of a lot of these guys

610
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: turned into better guard prospects than they did tackle, prospects

611
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: which you, know fine for certain, teams but if you're

612
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: in need of a, TACKLE i just think you're gonna

613
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: be a little out of.

614
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: Lucky you know two GUYS i was overjoyed to see

615
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: in your top. Fifty Chris, bell the receiver From, louisville

616
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: number thirty. FOUR i had him as a third round

617
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: pick coming into the. Season he's A week five riser

618
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: for me at Sports skia after that terrific comeback win

619
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: By louisville over. Pitch if you were watching The miami

620
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: Game friday, night you saw what he. Did nine catches

621
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty six yards two. TDS i, mean

622
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: he's a bigger, guy but he's also. Quick he's got

623
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 4: a terrific short, burst and he catches the ball extremely.

624
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah BELL'S i was hesitant to buy in based

625
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: off his tape last year BECAUSE i still love to see,

626
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: skill LIKE i still love to see the route running

627
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: shops first and so. Athletes you, know a lot of

628
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: the busts in recent years of the position of the

629
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: guys who were athletes that you're, like, oh we can develop.

630
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: Them you, know whether It's Gwinn, johnson who's maybe the

631
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: biggest success story in that, regard or like A Traylon

632
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: burks or maybe he is able to get like more

633
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: often than, not it's hard to develop these guys at

634
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: THE nfl. Level but With Chris, bell you saw the development,

635
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: now so ONCE i, Did i'm, Like, okay this guy's

636
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: got the. Goods because at six, one two twenty with

637
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: probably four to three. SPEED i mean at least low four.

638
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: Fours that's a tough ask for corners when you really

639
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: have size, advantage and again goes back to our conversation

640
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: about size. Matter one hundred and eighty five pound wide

641
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: receiver versus a two hundred twenty pound wide receiver running

642
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 3: four threes is a different. Animal and he's not just

643
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: straight lined. Fast he has agility as, well which IS

644
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: i think where the other bigger bodied speedsters like. THAT

645
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: i mentioned that they really laughed and that really showed

646
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: up when they had to get pressed at THE nfl,

647
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 3: LEVEL i Think bell is going to be able. To

648
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: so he's definitely, rising and even even from SINCE i

649
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: did this, board he's even impressed more since in That miami.

650
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: Game before you get to your second, Guy tony really,

651
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: QUICK i want to fall up on the wide receiver,

652
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: clash just because we touched on a bunch of. Them

653
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: brazil is a guy THAT i watched this morning for

654
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: the first, Time, mike and it's. Funny, Obviously giant fans

655
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: have SOME ptsd from the jail And hyatt experience coming

656
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: out of The tennessee, system SO i didn't know WHAT

657
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: i was going to see WHEN i tuned, in and

658
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: for a guy that's six,' five i think he's actually

659
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: got pretty quick hips and he can flip them and

660
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: he can he can change directions. Pretty well and for

661
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: a guy that's just two hundred pounds at six, y five.

662
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: He's actually a pretty strong guy.

663
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: At the, catch point which is one Thing That jaleen

664
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: hyatt has struggled at IN. The nfl so do you

665
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: think in, THIS class i think you have seven in your.

666
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: Top fifty is he the guy with the best shot

667
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: and the traits to be a true number one IN?

668
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: The nfl and maybe some of the other guys are

669
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: maybe more of a.

670
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Complimentary, ROLE now i still think the guys that have at,

671
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: the Top so Tyson, and tate just because, you know

672
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: true number one is kind of it's true number one

673
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: is more often out of the guys that just run. Full,

674
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: rountrees like let's start with. Those guys those guys can run,

675
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: full rountrees and so those are the guys getting featured,

676
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: the most get the, most. Targets catches but he's kind

677
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: of your old. Prototypical act he feels like TO me

678
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: i was talking about, earlier day he feels like a

679
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: nineteen nineties or early two thousand kind of. Wide receiver

680
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: we used to see these guys a. Lot, more Hey with.

681
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Jefferies action you think a little bit of that From

682
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: the oilers back at.

683
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: The day he's just, GOT that i like a little.

684
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: Bit More, Ser yeah like we used to see these guys,

685
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: a lot they've kind of gone away. A little maybe

686
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: they've gone to the, basketball court because this is kind

687
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: of who. He is he's like that swing small forward

688
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: who just can slash and get down the, football field

689
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: go up over the top of. CORNERS consistently i mean

690
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: you see it like weekly on, his, tape seemingly and like,

691
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: you said he has more of that stop star ability

692
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: to shake at the line of scrimmage than your most

693
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: like sixty five wide receivers don't work out because they

694
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: can't move. Like that they can't move like a six

695
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: foot wide receiver in, short spaces and so corners just

696
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: get their hands on him AT the. Nfl LEVEL but

697
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: i think you see Enough from brazil to know that

698
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: that might not be. An Issue so i'm really excited

699
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: about his game and the jump, he's MADE and i

700
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: think he. Looks stronger he used to be super skinny

701
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: at two lane. On tape now he's, still skinny but

702
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: at least a lot stronger than he.

703
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 4: Was then you know the other guy that. Nobody, Mentions

704
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: uh i'm a big fan Of His, genesis smith great

705
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: first name for those of you remember the prog rock

706
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: band from the indies and. The, eighties genesis have to

707
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: throw that. IN there i had him as a fifth

708
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: round pick coming into, the season but he's. Just improved

709
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: he was a week three riser for me at. SPORTS

710
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: skitter i mean good, run defender good, range display solid.

711
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: BALL skills i think he's got seven or eight pass breakups.

712
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: This season wouldn't be afraid to play him over the.

713
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: Slot receiver and this is a guy that nobody. TALKS

714
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: about i was glad to see you have him as

715
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: a top fifty pick or a top. FIFTY prospect i, should,

716
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: say yeah and.

717
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: YOUNG too i mean he's only a third year guy

718
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: in that's seemingly like becoming, Uncommon nowadays like back like

719
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: a decade ago that was not that was like all you,

720
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: were drafting but more. Uncommon nowadays and just flew IT

721
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: like i want safeties that are all. Around athletes, YOU

722
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 3: know i don't need high end. ONE trait i need

723
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: your worst trade to be as good. As POSSIBLE and

724
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: i THINK when I watched smith as, an athlete he

725
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: doesn't have like his worst trade is still. Very good

726
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: he's just a very solid all. Around athlete and those

727
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: are the guys who want room in the. Back end

728
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: AND so i agree. WITH you i think HE'S fersatle

729
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: i think he can cover the slots. YOU want i

730
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: think deep if. You WANT and i think he has

731
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: the size to play in the box and. Tackle too

732
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: so just a very well rounded player in a safety

733
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: class that doesn't have a ton of That after. Kale downs, You.

734
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: Know mike you mentioned in order to be a top

735
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: fifty off ball linebacker, these days you got to be

736
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: a pretty. Special PLAYER you i believe have five off

737
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: ball linebackers in your. Top fifty tony also loves this inside.

738
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Linebacker CLASS so i want to, ask you just generally

739
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: about this inside, linebacker class who are the guys? You

740
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: like why you? Like him And then i'll let You

741
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: and tony kind of go back. And forth but he

742
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: also loves. This, GROUP yeah I love i Mean the ohio.

743
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: State too everyone Loves The ohio. State too But. Rfl

744
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: reeves styles two like, different types even if like the same,

745
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: size two just like distinctly different types. Of Linebackers where

746
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: styles is more of your rangy cover second, Level guy

747
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: reese Is your blitzer edge, hybrid sort and both are

748
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: both our first rounders for me or likely to end.

749
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: Up there in. THIS class i know you've got to,

750
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: be SPECIAL like, i said to be, top fifty but

751
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: maybe not necessarily. This year and also when you are

752
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: that high, end athlete those are the guys that go,

753
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: top Fifty Right exteine styles could run in the. Four

754
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: threes he truly is uniquely explosive at. Second level And

755
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: then reese is just he could be the teams could

756
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: just see him as an. Edge rusher it wouldn't surprise

757
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: me if team's, just like WHY would i waste playing

758
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: this guy off, the ball asking him to drop in

759
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: coverage when he can just win one on one against

760
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: offensive tackles to what, he does kind of Like The mike.

761
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: Parsons transition when you're, that good just like play him

762
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: at the more. Valuable position and then after, those TWO

763
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: there's i Really Love jake Golde from cincinnati what he's been.

764
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: This year he's a former on, ball guy former EDGE

765
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: rusher I Believe central arkansas, before Transferring and rangey sixty

766
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: four two forty kind, Of like i'm gonna be staying that.

767
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: A lot in, this class they're all huge, and athletic

768
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: and that's again like those are the guys that, go

769
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: high and so there's a lot of them in. This

770
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: class and you see him whether it's as a blitzer or,

771
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: in coverage like he can just fly and plays. VERY.

772
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: Aggressively cj allen from george is like the one guy

773
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: who's not in, that mold but he's also like the

774
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: biggest ass kicker in. This class he reminds me of

775
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: SO when i watched him last Year at georgia and

776
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: when they'd have Him And jalen walker next to, each

777
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: other it was almost like He Was jalen walker's little

778
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: brother because they're built. So similarly he's just a touch

779
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: smaller though, frame wise but like similar wide shoulder build

780
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: and they just play the exact. Same WAY so i

781
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: just Think Of jalen walker but as an off, ball

782
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: linebacker THAT'S. Who cj. Allen IS and i think the

783
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: last one that made It Was anthony Hill from texas

784
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: who's just a graceful second level athlete at nearly two

785
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: hundred and, forty POUNDS and i think he's gotten a

786
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: lot better. This year he was starting his true Freshman.

787
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: OF texas I thought i got a lot better this

788
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: year around the line of scrimmage in terms of reading.

789
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: And reacting wasn't really much of a playmaker, last YEAR

790
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: but i think it's becoming.

791
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: More so, you know you talk about. Ass kickers one

792
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: guy that didn't make your top, FIFTY list i was

793
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: a little bit surprised At Was harold perkins JUNIOR, for

794
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: lsu especially the way, he's returned, you know from the

795
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 4: injury that kept him out most of. Last season what

796
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: was the reason?

797
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: For, THAT yeah i just one worried ABOUT the acl

798
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: AND two i still feel like he's still learning linebacker

799
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: off ball a. Little bit but the athlete is insane

800
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: and so compared to these, OTHER guys i feel just

801
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: a little bit better about THEM if i had to

802
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: plug and play them IN the nfl. Right NOW but

803
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: i have. BEEN impressed i was not super impressed prior

804
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: to but he has worked his, way UP so i

805
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: was just starting from a way lower point. On him

806
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: this season is.

807
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Probably, Why, YEAH mike i want to ask you about

808
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: the number fifty guy in. Your List, hollywood smothers the

809
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: running back OUT Of. Nc STATE after i made sure

810
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: he was in fact a real person and you did

811
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: not make.

812
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: HIM up i watched him. This morning he's a lot.

813
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: Of fun, you know he's a smaller. Running back he's

814
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: under two.

815
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: Hundred pounds he's, not gonna, you know run through tackles,

816
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: a bit but he can cut on. A dime he

817
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: can run away. From people he's got pretty. Good vision

818
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: and he's the number two running Back After, jeremiah LOVE

819
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: who i will get to a little bit fun.

820
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Little, player yeah.

821
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: It's one it's a weak class of running backs in.

822
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: My Opinion After, jeremy love you're kind, of searching scraping

823
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: the bottom of.

824
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: The barrel, but.

825
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: Him he is just. TUNED up, i mean you see

826
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: an athlete and now he is on the, smaller side

827
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: and that's going to. Hurt HIM but i think these

828
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: are the type of backs that ARE that i WANT the,

829
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: i mean you saw last Night With. Jamiir gibbs he's

830
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Definitely Not. Jamir gibbs i'm not putting him in, that

831
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: category but you want the guys that can create on,

832
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: their own because you're getting so much more space in

833
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: THE modern nfl running games than. Ever before not to,

834
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: say that, you know guys Like camp scataboy. Aren't valuable they,

835
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: are valuable especially when you're that good at what. He

836
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: does but there's a lot of guys who can bang between,

837
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: the tackles who can grind out, tough yardage not to

838
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: The degree. Sketboy, CAN again i love him, coming Out

839
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: so i'm kind of making an, Exception there but there

840
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: aren't a lot of guys who are like four to

841
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: three high end make you missing space sort. Of guys

842
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: and so That's where i'm trending towards, the position not

843
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: in just in the WAY the nfl is. Playing NOWADAYS

844
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: and I think smothers is. That guy you. See him

845
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 3: when he gets, some space he is going to hit

846
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: a lot of. Home, runs.

847
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: Tony you two other guys that you do want to

848
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: ask about not being on, the, List, Right yeah i'll,

849
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: you know.

850
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: We talked at the top about how disappointing the quarterback

851
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: class has turned out. TO be i was a big

852
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: fan of Of the noormah sellers coming. Into this he's a

853
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: real big fan, of his but his game is kind of,

854
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: leveled off if. Not regressed was it you don't have

855
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: him in your? Top fifty was it more so because

856
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: there were fifty other better players or you're just were

857
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: you not just that high on him coming into the season?

858
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: WITH him, i mean he's so much Like The anthony

859
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: richardson CONVERSATION where i was, JUST like i don't KNOW

860
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: IF i i, DON'T know i don't want to be

861
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: the team that drafts. Him more he's going to, get

862
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: Drafted and sellers is probably one of the fifty most

863
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: talented players in. This class like leaving him off was

864
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: more JUST saying i don't want him to come out,

865
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: to school just come out, of SCHOOL just i want

866
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: him to take as long as possible. In college, and

867
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: now like from all the reports, this offseason it seems

868
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: like he has a good. Sports system maybe some people

869
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: telling him the right things in his year because he's.

870
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: Not ready if he gets thrown INTO the nfl and

871
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: he doesn't go to the right spot and they're asking

872
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: him to play right away and it doesn't look good

873
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: and he, gets benched like he could go really south

874
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: for him and he's still. SUPER young i think he's

875
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: still twenty. Years, old like take, your Time but i'm,

876
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: with you like he just hasn't done enough from last

877
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: year this year to get me, like able to get

878
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: me able to say that, the inconsistencies the things that

879
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: are that he struggles with, on tape that they'll for sure,

880
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: get better that he will do enough to clean. Them

881
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: UP and i just the thing, that REALLY actually i

882
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: think worries me the MOST is i think it's throwing

883
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: motion to me is just a. LITTLE clunky i just

884
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: for the inaccuracy that. HE has i will trust guys

885
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: who have a more a cleaner motion than he does to.

886
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: FIX them i worry about that, motion ever getting to

887
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: the level of consistency from an accuracy PERSPECTIVE that i

888
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: want to.

889
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: See it one, last guy like the, quarterback class as,

890
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: we mentioned the offensive tackle class has not lived up.

891
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: To Expectations xavier Chaplain of auburn was a guy that

892
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people had as a potential, top half

893
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: a round.

894
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: One Guy so tony. Loves him tony.

895
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: LOVES him i love This Game. VIRGINIA tech, i mean

896
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: you watch him, This year he's basically been a human.

897
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: YELLOW flag i don't know feel he's a human. Penalty

898
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: maker my Question About xavier chaplain is before the problems,

899
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 4: this year where did you have him rated coming into.

900
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: THE season i think he was twenty first on, my

901
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: board and he was another one where it's like you

902
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: watch him physically and this guy could be top five

903
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: hot IN. The nfl that's what we're dealing with from,

904
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: a size and he's so well. PUT together, i HEARD

905
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: though i don't know if, you heard that he has

906
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: hearing problems and that's why he's been such a uh

907
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: and like obviously lost his confidence at some point. This

908
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: season but like, you said he's eight penalties this year

909
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: and the tape's been. Just awful but the athlete and

910
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: the guy like Because The good lord only made so

911
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: many guys his size and they usually tackle. OF scoutings

912
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 3: i don't, say easy but like it's easier than other

913
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: positions because the traits needed are so rare one and

914
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: stand out so, obviously too but that he. Has them

915
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: but the tape's, BEEN gosh i mean hard to even

916
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: draft him in the top one hundred at. This point,

917
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: but yeah he was top twenty five on my board.

918
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: COMING in i even heard. ABOUT it i haven't heard

919
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: about him with. Hearing ploubles but when you go FROM

920
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: the acc TO, then sec you better make sure you

921
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: have to top hearing when you're on the field in

922
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: some of those.

923
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: Opposing, STADIUMS yeah i Think that's i've heard that he

924
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: is hearing problems and that's what's been such an issue.

925
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: For, Him, interesting mike you Mentioned The, good LORD so

926
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: i will give you a chance to Talk About Notre Dame.

927
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Jeremiah love you mentioned.

928
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: The earlier he's sixteen on your board by far the

929
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: best running back in. The class tony's been a little

930
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: frustrated by some of his inconsistency over the last couple.

931
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: Of years but MAN, against usc he was a one man.

932
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: Wrecking crew and by, THE way i also really like

933
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: your freshman quarterback, AND too i think he's going to be.

934
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Really good but tell me what kind of.

935
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: Running BACK if nfl fans want to get a feel

936
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: For What jeremiah love is going to look like, and

937
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: look he could be a top fifteen in, this class

938
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: maybe even a top ten thick In The National football

939
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: league of a team really wants, a playmaker what type

940
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: of archetype running Back Will jeremiah love?

941
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: To you be IN.

942
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: The, NFL yeah i mean he is kind of Similar To.

943
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: Jamir gibbs that's not to say it's gonna be as

944
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: Good As. Jamior gibbs gibbs is. Insanely good you never

945
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: know when a GUY and i do agree with the

946
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: inconsistency and sort of his. Running styles. It's unique it's

947
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: not like everyone. Else is he can get away with

948
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: stuff because he is, so gifted but he he bounces

949
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: around a lot behind the line. Of scrimmage he's not

950
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: a pure, one cut follow the blocking sort. Of guy

951
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: but that, being said he's, SO dynamic, i mean just

952
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: a level of dynamism that people can only. Dream into

953
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna run the. Four threes just an all

954
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: around unique. Special athlete, incredible feet like his ability to

955
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: he saw a usc game like get in and out.

956
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: Of HOLES and i think you've seen a willingness in

957
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: recent weeks to really attack more and Just say i'm

958
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: gonna attack this closing Gap and i'm going to get

959
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: through it and, you know going to go through an.

960
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: Arm tackle maybe it may not be, the cleanest but

961
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: you got to. Hit it and that's kind of the

962
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: one thing that's. Been missing and if that's the guy.

963
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: You're getting you're getting just an elite talent AT the

964
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: nfl level in.

965
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: My Opinion, all right my, FINAL question i Just, know

966
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: sawyer most of you can draft. ONE up i think

967
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: three hours ago as of this recording, On You, Fernando

968
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: mendoza just, For you tony number one Of The New York.

969
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Football jets when did it.

970
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: Start becoming hard for you when you got into the

971
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: mock draft and, you're like oh, My god i'm out.

972
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Of players WHAT do i?

973
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: Do?

974
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: NOW gosh i think it was about, pick twenty which,

975
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: is crazy.

976
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: That's early.

977
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: But WHO was? I putting i REMEMBER when I Put

978
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: amari washington at NINETEEN and i, was like, you, Know

979
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: ideally i'm Not Drafting amari washington in the first round

980
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: based off Of what i've seen, so Far the oregon.

981
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: Defensive tackle but here. We Are MAKAI lemon i put

982
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: To the Seahawks because, i'm like. That's good but then,

983
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: After that I'm Like caleb loom who hasn't played like

984
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: a first rounder of. This Year the Utah Tackle cayden

985
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: proctor really. Hasn't either but you can bet on the

986
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: talent that there's just not Guys that, i'm saying in

987
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: an ideal world are first rounders at. This, point unfortunately

988
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: so it. Was tough there's some guys in There where,

989
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: i'm like he's for sure not gonna be a, first

990
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: ROUNDER but i want to put him in there just

991
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: to give him. Some love but it's a it's not

992
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: a great class on paper as of. RIGHT now i

993
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: hope we see some guys play some better ball the

994
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: second half of.

995
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: The year do you have a pet cat let me.

996
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: Ask him, you know you said you would you would

997
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: usually not Put A mark washington in the. First round

998
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: would you usually Put For fernando mendoz as the first

999
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: pick of?

1000
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: The, draft no, THAT either i, don't think, YOU know

1001
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 3: i think ideally he's the guy you're throwing in at.

1002
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: Like twelve, you know, you know in, mock drafts there's

1003
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: like a team that desperately needs, a quarterback and so

1004
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: you give him one and he's probably kind of like.

1005
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: An afterthought but it's. Mid season you want to give

1006
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: some give, some love to, give them like some of

1007
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: them to be. Excited ABOUT but i do still. LIKE

1008
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: him i just don't think his ceiling is, anything. UNIQUE

1009
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: right i think he's more of a golfish esque, prospect

1010
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: or like in that kind of range of.

1011
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Probably the game McCarthy ish type. Of, THING yeah i.

1012
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: Think he's more a polished. Than McCarthy but like, you

1013
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: know where it's just if he becomes a top, FIVE

1014
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: quarterback i would be. Absolutely floored if he becomes a

1015
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: top ten quarterback IN, The nfl i'd probably still be. Pretty,

1016
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: SURPRISED like i just feel like he's probably. Capping out he,

1017
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: could START but i think he's probably. Capping out and like,

1018
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: the teams you're, just like that's the level of tools

1019
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: we're dealing. With it and THAT'S why i think a

1020
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: lot of people Are Hoping dantem moore plays a. Lot better.

1021
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: And let me let me just say This. About mendoza,

1022
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 4: YOU know i, like him but you've seen what great

1023
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: coaching can do, for him and, you know if he

1024
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: gets with an an organization that just has no history

1025
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: of being able to, develop quarterbacks that's my Concern. With

1026
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 4: mendouz ARE why i think he should probably go back

1027
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: another Year. In indiana.

1028
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: So you're saying just Avoid, The jets.

1029
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: You've, said THAT but i mean THAT'S where i was,

1030
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 4: to remember We're In.

1031
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 5: New, York okay i'll Say, The jets uh, Final, one

1032
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 5: mike have you developed like a pet cat in this,

1033
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: little class like a guy that maybe other teams, don't

1034
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 5: love but, YOU'RE like i just like putting.

1035
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: On it i'm in a.

1036
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: BAD mood i want to feel better about. Myself today

1037
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: i'm going to put this tape on and just have

1038
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1039
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Of, fun oh that's a.

1040
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: GREAT question i really. LIKE watching i think. The linebackers

1041
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: jake gold is probably the, one, Who like i'm way

1042
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: higher on THAN maybe i got him twenty second of.

1043
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: My draft so he's the One where i've watched probably

1044
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of his, games NOW, and i, you know

1045
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: don't really care too MUCH about, uc football EVEN though

1046
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: i Live, in cincinnati but he's One where i'm, just

1047
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: like that's that guy's going to work, like that, That

1048
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: works like what, the athlete the way, he plays it's

1049
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: going to. Work Out so jake golday might be the

1050
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: One where i'd Say just i'll watch his tape weekly

1051
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: because it's. That GOOD and i think he's a very

1052
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: exciting player at a, school that's, you know at a

1053
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: position in the school that probably doesn't get a lot

1054
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: of attention that You wouldn't you wouldn't GUESS a uc

1055
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: linebacker is a top you know Thirty two Pottion.

1056
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: Pick mike tell us About.

1057
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: Good bye let Me give mike. My guy it's it's

1058
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: not his, top fifty just to get his his opinions on,

1059
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: that guy, for me would be in Strong.

1060
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: Of rutgers i've watched some very. Good possession the wide

1061
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: receiver lives up to. The name what about him makes?

1062
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: You bullish he's.

1063
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 4: A in, my opinion he's a dominant game controlling receiver

1064
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Speaker 4: with an. Inconsistent quarterback and he's done it for. TWO years,

1065
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Speaker 4: i mean people watch him. This year he was also

1066
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Speaker 4: really good. LAST year i made a lot. Of catches

1067
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Speaker 4: i've seen a lot of development in. His game, and

1068
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 4: yeah he's not a precise. Shot runner he's not a

1069
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Speaker 4: guy that's going to. Get separation he's more Of Of

1070
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Speaker 4: elijah suratt type, of receiver which is going to have

1071
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Speaker 4: its limitations with, the size the ability to win out

1072
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: for the. Contested catch just great focus and concentration and

1073
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Speaker 4: the ability to. DO it, i mean the opponents know

1074
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Speaker 4: the ball is going to get thrown, to him the

1075
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Speaker 4: ball gets thrown to and consistently comes away with. THE

1076
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: catch i always put a premium, on that.

1077
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Speaker 3: And he's more PROTOTYPICAL what i mentioned. About thot he has,

1078
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: the wingspan he has the frame that you you CAN

1079
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: bully nfl corners when you're that big in.

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Speaker 2: That look, All, right mike tell us about. The podcast

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Speaker 2: everything in YOU. At cbs anything you want, to promote

1082
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Speaker 2: the floor, is yours. My, friend yeah you can.

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Speaker 3: Find Me on Pushing the, pile podcasts or you can

1084
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Speaker 3: find we do mock. DRAFT mondays i think three Pm.

1085
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Speaker 3: Every monday we'll. Run through it's not always my, mock

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Speaker 3: draft BUT like i go and talk about someone else's

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Speaker 3: mock DRAFT On Cbs, sports network so you can check

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Speaker 3: it out there if you want to hear my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: On prospects it is never too early to get.

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Speaker 2: Mock, DRAFTS yeah i believe that IS The cbs Sports dot.

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Speaker 2: Com Motto if i'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Too many it was also our motto for. A while

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Speaker 3: i think we cut back on the. Sheer volume, but

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Speaker 3: yeah we're still pumping out maybe one a.

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Speaker 2: Week, here, no absolutely it's always fun trying to get

1096
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Speaker 2: ready for the. Draft early my. Good stuff man really appreciate.

1097
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Speaker 2: The time always good to, catch up and we'll catch

1098
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Speaker 2: up closer.

1099
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Speaker 1: To the draft.

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Speaker 3: For, sure fella thanks for.

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Speaker 2: time everybody