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My apologies, I 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: just had dental work in my tongue. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Is num. 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Good Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodoks 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, October thirtieth, twenty 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: twenty four. I'm Jay Skis hearing the Classic Factory and 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: alongside me, as always. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: Taskmellists podcast listeners, this is for you. 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: Next to him, it's the bearded Woematatsha, Hotboy Trick Herbie, 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: are you and overyon making the magic happen? Super producer 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: JD There he is here we are and guys, we 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 3: had another wedgie can you believe it our fourth wedgie 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: of the season, and this one was a weird one. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: Jamal Murray coming underneath with this weggie as he was 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: trying to avoid the defense there. But yeah, four wedges. 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: Look at the pace task We've never had a pace 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: that high. R pace for seventy five wedges. 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: I can't believe wedgietracker dot com have you ever seen 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: something like this. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna break the site with all. 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: These wedgies and very special weggies, you said, Jamal Murray 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: way under the hoop. Yeah, you never see that. The 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: Isaiah Jackson coming up way under the restricted area for 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: a block shot. That's far measure it. That has never 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: been done. 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: To web score. Yeah, we score sent yesterday. So deep 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: is it in there? 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: How far away does the defender jump? Which panels of 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: the ball are wedged, It's got to go up to 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty though a little further. 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you see the panel on that Jamal Murray ball? 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: It was all scuffed. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: Oh, they scuffed the ball. 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: You don't see it very often a scuffed ball retire. Yeah. 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 4: I didn't see it until I got the close up 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: here of the monitor. Here, I'd looked at it multiple times, 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: but didn't see that scuff until right now. It's a scuffer. 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: I guess JJ Reddick will like that ball. 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. Keep the Wedge's coming. Everybody sees one. 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: Let us know obviously on Twitter or Instagram. Okay, we 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: had four games on last night. We can touch on 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: all of them now. We got a little bit of news. 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: Pretty light night though in the Association. But we start 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: with the Mavericks fending off the Wolves one twenty fourteen 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals matchup. Luca couldn't hit a three all night, 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: and then he hits the one that's the dagger and 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: lets the crowd know and it's like deja vu all 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: over again from the Conference finals, but the mass get 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: the victory. 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Here of the Wolves start the Luca MVP campaign now, 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: and which is weird because he ain't shooting all that well, 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: he's not even close to himself. Was it not playing 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: in the preseason maybe, But the fact is, well, the 61 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: player you're gonna remember from this game taking Rudy out 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: thirty two feet from the hoop, and it was an 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: extremely long one and he did it to him and 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: he had an opportunity a few minutes before that to 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: do it against Rudy, he missed. He missed his first 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: seven threes still under a minute left. He said, I'm 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: taking Rudy out there. I'm doing anything. 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Last night it was McDaniel. That was no, that was 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: Walker guy. Rudy was obviously in the conference finals, right, 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: the massive three yes. 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: And then he could do it against anybody and hold 72 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: on thee at fifty five seconds thirty two foot one 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: was not Rudy. 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: The one last night. 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 4: Was because he took He did it well. Nikilo Xenawa fell, 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: he did it against Rudy the last three shots of 77 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 4: the three minutes. We're all against both of those guys. Hey, 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: we recovered it was a scuffed ball, was a scuffed take. 79 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: And he's able. He's able to do whatever the heck 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: he wants out there. Yeah, again, his percentages are bad. 81 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: Not even gonna talk about those. And he thanked Kyrie 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: for being doubled on that where he was able to 83 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: go one on one with apparently Nikhil Alexander Walker and 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: take him out. So those are the plays that you're 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: gonna remember to be able to do that. He did 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: have a love points in the fourth quarter, so he 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: did turn on a little bit. He was going to 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: get getting offensive boards and in the last couple of 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: minutes that didn't look like Luca. But he's got this 90 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: team now that is playing like they were in the 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Western Conference finals. They try hard the entire game. That 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 4: team has transition to this season, really it has. Daniel 93 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Gafford was out hustling guys, going end to end before 94 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: other guys. In this game. You saw PJ. Washington taking 95 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards in the fourth quarter and defending him extremely well. 96 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: Derek Lively handling Julius Randall over and over and over again. 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: There's multiple possessions where he didn't need a double. These 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: guys are just trying. It is a different team. I 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: didn't expect it to be a different team. So when 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: I said Luca might win the MVP, but this MAVs 101 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: team may not even win fifty games, I mean, I 102 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 4: don't think they're going to be a high fifty win team. Still, 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: it might be a low fifty win team. Will still 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: be in you air quotes over team, and I think 105 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: you can start that Luca talk. Even though the numbers 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: are not good. Luca will come back to Earth and 107 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: score thirty game. I mean, right now, it's twenty six 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: and bad percentages, but the guy is confident, the team 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 4: is confident. 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: It was a strange game because that Anthony Edward's going 111 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 3: off in the first quarter twenty four points of his 112 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: thirty seven. Then it was the Kyrie takeover in the 113 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: third quarter, and then it was like, yeah, Lucas sort 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: of bringing them home at the end his best quarter 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: of this game with what you say, eleven is what 116 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: he had in the four but he hitting the timely shots. 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: I mean, every time the Wolves got close or it 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: was a one possession game, it was a big basket, 119 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: usually orchestrated by Luca. But Kyrie coming through two and 120 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: these guys like they just sort of have the Wolves. 121 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: They feel too comfortable. Yeah against this team. 122 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: Thirty five for Kyrie, twenty four for Luca, and it's 123 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: basically either Gobert or Randall in a drop or they 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: switch and good luck literally with either of those guys. 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Kyrie in the fourth quarter, I think he had three 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: or four baskets literally on Julius Randall. So many of 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: the actions that Dallas was scoring out of was a 128 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: pick and roll started with Conley having to guard this 129 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: guy is looking pretty old to start the season, and 130 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: then either go Berra Randall was there. They tried Randall 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 2: at the five, did not work at all. I didn't 132 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: think Dallas also had five offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter. 133 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: Couldn't really do the math perfectly well. They got ten 134 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: or eleven second chance points off that. I was a 135 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: little confused by the play by play data. Nonetheless, you're 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: the bigger team, you should be out rebounding Dallas. I 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: also thought Minnesota was really bad in transition defense. Like 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: task mentioned twenty to ten in fast break points advantage 139 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: for Dallas. They had multiple where there was nobody on 140 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: the other side of the court, like Luca had one 141 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: where he had like a calf problem or something like 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: that shot a men's league lay up didn't even jump. 143 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving had another one with nobody around him as well. 144 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: Minnesota also had twenty turnovers turned into twenty five Dallas points. 145 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: It was kind of like, had a huge first quarter 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: and then he's like, I did my part. You guys 147 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: take us on home, and they didn't do enough. 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if he was injured, because Edwards 149 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: had an ankle injury the entire game. It seemed like 150 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: he went down to that right ankle multiple times retying it. 151 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: He was hitting the groin as well, call it the 152 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: gu because it was a groin, and twice he heard 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: his ankle in this game. And you can say after 154 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: watching that first quarter, I mean that was phenomenal taking 155 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: it into the second quarter. So I don't know if 156 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: he just slowed down because of those injuries, but the 157 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: other guys didn't help him out. Jane McDonald's has not 158 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: been himself this season quite yet. Julius Randall was getting 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: beat down the floor, as we said, and he'll get 160 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: a block one of these days. He'll get his first 161 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: block of the season one day. But he's just allowing 162 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: guys chopped hands to let guys score around the rim. 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: So that was a worry coming into the season without Kat, 164 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: Are you still going to be able to defend the 165 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: same way? And at times they don't. And yes, the 166 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: mass they out hustled him, they truly did, and it 167 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: may have helped him to get down and see Julius 168 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: Randall have that eighteen point first quarter, actually twenty four 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: point first or six threes made it eighteen, but twenty 170 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: four overall, and then they just turned it on. They 171 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: look like that happy team that made it to the 172 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: finals that that is carried over. They're in such a groove. 173 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: Mike Conley is off to a rough start for the 174 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: Wolves this season too. I know they're like sort of 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: reducing his minutes and Nikole Alexander Walker, you know, did 176 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: play well, it got more minutes than Conley, but like 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: he is just like you know, he's just usually the 178 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: steady hand that he was last year and they love him, 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: and like, I mean it makes sense, like he is 180 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: a great vet, but like he's just I feel like 181 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: we've barely talked about him. He hasn't contributed a whole lot. 182 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: And you know, you know the new pieces too. Randall 183 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: has his big scoring games, but like you guys said, 184 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: defensive liabilities and Dante DiVincenzo, we haven't talked about it 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: a lot either. He struggled and this one couldn't really 186 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: hit a three, you know, So I guess like that's 187 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: what I'm getting out sort of with the Knicks too, 188 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: Like these are brand new teams, big pieces that they're 189 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: trying to implement here and shouldn't be a surprise that 190 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: like they look good on some Knights and bad on 191 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: others or even in the same game, and that they're 192 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: like struggling. Both these teams, the Knicks and the Wolves 193 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: after the big trade, they're struggling compared to what they 194 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: were last year at least. 195 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the hustle stats, even though there aren't 196 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: no stats. I mean, I guess there are stats technically, 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: but just elections being out run. That happened last night. Yeah, 198 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: they just wanted to get down there faster. It was 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: weird seeing Dante DiVincenzo off the bench, just running over 200 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: and over with Rudy Gobert, these pin downs where he'd 201 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: come around and set it up for Rudy. It's different 202 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: than New York Next Dante Devincenzo, where he's just hanging 203 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: out in the three point line and can make everything happen. Now, 204 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: some of those plays were good with him and Rudy Gobert. Yeah, 205 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: but the bench isn't clicking. I thought Nikael asen Walker's 206 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: minutes would be taken by Rob Dillingham just because dealing 207 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: Ham is a great offensive player. But Nickail Alexander was 208 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: awesome offensively yesterday. So I don't know. They aren't quite right, 209 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: that is for sure, and calmly isn't either. Yeah, but yeah, 210 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: it's the hostilight thing. I mean, are you ready to run? 211 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 4: It's literally beaten down the floor too many times in 212 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: this one. 213 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: Let's move to the Warriors using their depth because they 214 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: were short Steph Curry Andrew Wiggins, uh, the Anthony Melton 215 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: didn't play, and they rally to beat the Pelicans pretty handily, 216 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: won twenty four one oh six. There's a team struggling 217 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: as well to start this season, the Pelicans. But yeah, 218 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: the Warriors looked really good. Kamingo went to the bench tray, 219 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: you know, so Kerr changed the lineup and they got 220 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: down huge fourteen points after the first quarter. Yeah, and 221 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: then the Warriors st one ten in the last three 222 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: quarters of this game. 223 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: I thought, terrible loss for the Pelicans, and it basically 224 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: key basically came down to three point shooting. The Warriors 225 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: made a ton of threes. They went twenty one of 226 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: forty six. Meanwhile New Orleans went nine of twenty two 227 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 2: from three. You know, Buddy Heel hit seven threes on 228 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: his own. All of New Orleans hit nine. They're twenty 229 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: eighth or twenty sixth right now in three point right, 230 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: their twentieth inmates. Because they're shooting a different a decent percentage, 231 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: but only twenty two attempts. They had twenty four turnovers 232 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: to twenty three assists. That's the wrong way for the ratio. 233 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: They just play a tough style of basket right now. 234 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: With no Dejonte Murray to be the point guard out there, 235 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: you got Zion and Ingram both had really good games. 236 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: They went twelve of thirty six from the field. 237 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: That can't be right. They went twenty four of thirty 238 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: six from the field. 239 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: The rest of the team went sixteen of thirty eight. 240 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: But every single shot that Zion's making, that Brandon Ingram 241 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: is making, it's an impossible too. Like they're taking some tough, 242 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: tough two pointers. It's the year twenty twenty four. We're 243 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: trying to hit three pointers out here. So the Warriors 244 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: came out, they said, we're missing three starters. Basically, we're 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: just gonna bomb away and shoot threes. It was Lindy 246 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Waters was kind of the best guy out there. Thirty 247 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: four assists for the Warriors to eight turnovers. New Orleans 248 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: just didn't play any defense. They looked at the team 249 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: they saw and said, we got this one, and they 250 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: didn't have this one because they're not that good, right, 251 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: Like New Orleans is going to be in the middle 252 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: in the Western Conference, just like the Warriors are. But 253 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: the Warriors came in, they knew the style they needed 254 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: to play, and what the Pelicans were doing just didn't 255 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: make sense. 256 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lyndy Waters the third twenty one points nine boards 257 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: for him, it looked amazing And maybe Kurizon locked another 258 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: guy here that's going to fit into this rotation. But 259 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 3: they were short a lot of guys and I like 260 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: to switch up and Buddy, He'll started very slow and 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: then he caught fire. That guy, when he catches fire, 262 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, it's lights out. It feels 263 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: like every SHOT's going in. He's just one of those players. 264 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: It's like when he's bad, he's bad, and you get 265 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: into shot and save his life. And then he has 266 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: the stretches where you can't miss. 267 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: Ah, buddy, And yeah, the Warriors trust him obviously, keep 268 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: shooting that thing. Especially with all the injuries. Had to 269 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: see Lindy Waters, who's the thirteenth man in their rotation, 270 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:30,479 Speaker 4: really come in and play extremely hard defense, and that transitioned, 271 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: I think for the Warriors. In this game, their defense 272 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 4: played hard and it transitioned to good offense, and Lindy 273 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: Waters was, yeah, great, great dunk, and then Buddy was 274 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: yeah again cold in the first half, just made one three, 275 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: but the six of six in the second half got 276 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: scorching hot. And yeah, the Golden State Arena there, Chase 277 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: Center was bumping for him, and so that was fun. 278 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, you don't have Curry, Wiggins or Melting. The 279 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: Pelicans should win. And as you said, the math ain't 280 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: working in the modern day NBA. You have, say the 281 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: Celtics ruined offense or whatever. Just shoot more threes. That's 282 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: all you have. You can still shoot twos, but shoot 283 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: more threes. Willy Green before this season, he said Republicans 284 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: team should try and shoot forty three is a game, 285 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: and they barely shut half of them in this game, 286 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: and so that wasn't even close. A guy like me, 287 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: a guy like I've mentioned Jordan Hawkins got after bench, 288 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: who I think is a you know, minor six Man 289 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: of the Year candidate. If you like really good odds, 290 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: don't don't gamble, but if you want really good odds, 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: you put some money on him. I thought he'd come 292 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: out and shoot a ton of threes in this game, 293 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: especially with the Johntay Murray out he has been but 294 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: he only had one three attempt in this game. It 295 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: was it was weird. Zion Webson was trying to set 296 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: everybody up, but it was a lot of one on 297 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 4: one play for him and Ingram and that's why I 298 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: got spanked pretty badly. 299 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is weird to see like they were up 300 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: thirty one to fourteen and then they get hammered by 301 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: like eighteen points in the end. That's crazy. And it 302 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: was a lot of like you guys said, man, the defense, 303 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: like Pajemski was everywhere, obviously Lindy Waters like they just 304 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: deflections were always leading. It felt like the was like 305 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: three Gary Payton the Second fast break dunks in this 306 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: game because of all the turnovers they were creating getting 307 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: easy buckets that way, and then you pair that with 308 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: Buddy Field catching fire and that's how they win by 309 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: a lot. 310 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: It was a quiet night in the NBA because one 311 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: of their stories, their Instagram stories was Gary Payton the 312 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: Second just trying to jump as high as he could 313 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: in pregame and he almost hit his head on the backboard. 314 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: So I laughed at that that it was a quiet 315 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: night when you mentioned Gary Pate the second. Yeah he 316 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: can play defense, but how. 317 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: High can he jump? 318 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the whole fig all it was. 319 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: So they'll play again tonight, these two teams, because they 320 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: got the old little baseball series. So again we'll run 321 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: it back. And I think there will be a lot 322 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: of panic here when it comes to the Pelicans. If 323 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, they put up this type of performance again 324 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: and fall to you know, below five hundred, I guess 325 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: they are two and two right now, feels sort of 326 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: worse for some reason. It does absolutely, Yeah, it just 327 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: hasn't looked great. Yeah, let's go to another team just 328 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: scraping by. But they got the victory. Jokic post get 329 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: this line twenty nine points, eighteen rebounds, sixteen assists to 330 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: lead Denver passed the Brooklyn Nets one forty four to 331 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: one thirty nine in overtime. Again, back to back situation. 332 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: They had to go to overtime in Toronto. They pull 333 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: it out and they do it in Brooklyn and they're 334 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: they're back. Baby, They're to two and two. I mean 335 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: they honestly they should be owing four. If the Raptors 336 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: hit some free throws down the stretch. They lose that game, yep, 337 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: And Dorian Finney Smith he missed a free throw that 338 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: would have made it a three point lead. Instead he 339 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: missed one, and then they gave them all to Yokich 340 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,479 Speaker 3: and he just put his ass in the basket. DFS 341 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: tied the game up, and then really and then DFS 342 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: had a wide open and then he had a wide 343 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: open book. Yeah, they could very easily be owing four, 344 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: but instead Jokich has literally got them to baby, that's crazy. 345 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: But what do you think the game? Yeah, I have 346 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: nothing other than to say these Nuggets are not serious 347 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: right now. Like if this was a succession, Roy Logan 348 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: would say, you are not serious people. They're not back 349 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: to back sent to OTB as the other team miss 350 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: free throws. In the Raptors situation, it was worse, but 351 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: in this one it was one misfree throw that was 352 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: pretty important. And so you see back to backs and 353 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: you can make excuses for teams, but there's no excuse 354 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: for this team playing like they did. Hey, that Mavis 355 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: had a great back to back. They got in late, 356 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: that's you know, you can make that excuse. And they 357 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: still played harder than the Minnesota Timberwolves. But in this situation, 358 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: they gave up Brooklyn. They gave up forty points to 359 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: Brooklyn in the first quarter. You could see the plays 360 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: happen that we're just bat You get a drop off 361 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: underneath the rim where Durrian Phinney Smith was wide open. 362 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: Yo didn't really want to block a shot he score, 363 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: and then they pull it out and he just inbounded 364 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: to Jamal Murray. He wasn't coming at the ball, so 365 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: they just gave up another three pointer shot. It was 366 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: about five point possession there, and I mean Zire Williams 367 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: looked awesome. He was cutting along the baseline. Nobody even 368 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: looked at the guy. And so they played about poorly. 369 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: Seventy two first half points for the Brooklyn Nets. And 370 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: then it came down to the fourth quarter where the 371 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: and that's the beginning of their records. They're not gets 372 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: turned it up just enough to get them by. But 373 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: I can't take it, seriously, I just can't take it. 374 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: It's difficult to do that, especially when I again, I 375 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: think they're starting five lost some minutes. But really their 376 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: starting five has been extremely solid. It's just their bench 377 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: has been very bad, and Christian Brown is starting to 378 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: hit threes. He had two threes in this game, the 379 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: most of his season, so that changs up of him 380 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: going to the starting line up for KCP is not 381 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: the problem whatsoever. I know people say KCP is a 382 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: forty percent shooting around the first few seasons of his career, 383 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: he was not a great three point shooter. And Christian 384 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: Brown is even better three point shooter than KCP was 385 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: his first three seasons. So that ain't the problem. That 386 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: guy's a good defender. It's just the effort. I don't 387 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: know if they're really into this whole thing right here, 388 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: right now. And then the bench is the non Yokich 389 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: minutes hurt. 390 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: Westbrook had his best game of the season, twenty two points, 391 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: He got to the line a ton, he hit his 392 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: two threes, gave him some life there. Five assists as 393 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: well for him in twenty one minutes. But by by 394 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: far Westbrook's best game and yet and it was you know, 395 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: he helped them get this victory. But it's like, yeah, 396 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: we're sitting here going okay, they got the victory. They 397 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: beat the Raptors and they beat the Nests, but like, ugh, 398 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: having to play five more minutes to scrape it out. 399 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: It's not great a good look. 400 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: Even though KCP hasn't really done anything for the Magic, 401 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: I think he's like two for seventeen from three. This 402 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: is still the biggest change they've had to their lineups 403 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: since they traded for Aaron Gordon basically and had to 404 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: figure out how to play alongside them. So they're figuring 405 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: out how to win right now, and it doesn't look 406 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: good at all. This was just a we are on 407 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: the second night of a back to back, let's play 408 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: it cool. The Nuggets modus operandi the past couple of 409 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: seasons has been we're turning it on in the second 410 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: half in the third and fourth quarters. 411 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: So all that makes sense to me. 412 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: But their thirtieth and three point rate, and that was 413 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: going to be the question coming in do they have 414 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: enough shooting? 415 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: Clearly they don't. 416 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: They're twentieth in makes Aaron Gordon hit a huge one 417 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, Christian Brown hit a huge one 418 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: in overtime as well, But there are just so many 419 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: possession where there are five guys waiting in the lane. 420 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: Jokic loves to be in the lane, so it just 421 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: doesn't make a whole bunch of a whole bunch of 422 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: sense as a team here, maybe they're as Zach Lavine team. Honestly, 423 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: they don't really have pieces to trade for him because 424 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: of the contracts and that kind of stuff. Like I 425 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: don't know if Chicago's dying to get MPJ and Zeke Naji, 426 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: but they could use a guy who's just gonna gun 427 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: from the outside because they don't take enough threes. Yokic 428 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: is their best three point shooter this season because he 429 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: had a seven for twelve game. He's gonna have to 430 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: have a career high in scoring I believe for the 431 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: Nuggets to be competitive this year. But also the guy's 432 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: a great problem solver, so he's figuring out how to 433 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: play with this team, and maybe over the course of 434 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: the season, even if it's just all two pointers. 435 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: For the Nuggets, they become an efficient offense. Yeah. From statitudes, 436 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: I saw that Jokich is just the fourth player in 437 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: NBA history to record a forty point game and or 438 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: a triple double in each of his first four games 439 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: to start a season. Wilt Chamberlain did it a few times, 440 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: Oscar Robertson, and then Russell Westbrook did it in twenty 441 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 3: twenty one. Obviously Russ now on this team with Jolkic, 442 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean I was also curious, like, Okay, 443 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: now the Nuggets are five hundred, I wonder where Yokic 444 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: is now on the MVP tracker, because you got to 445 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: usually have the wins. Of course, suddenly he's fifth, just 446 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: getting to five hundred because his numbers are insane. Yeah, 447 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: the statts he's putting up with the big scoring. 448 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: Are they better than his MVP seasons. I think that 449 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: will be a question when people are making the MVP campaign. 450 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 4: Obviously the offensive numbers are better, just the raw numbers 451 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: of scoring they are because, as Trey was saying, he 452 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: just finds himself in a situation where, oh man, I 453 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: got to take over now, and he's shooting those threes 454 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 4: a lot more so to be scoring thirty one per 455 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: game right now, yeah, you can start to say, yeah, 456 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: he's better. He should win his fourth MVP of the season. 457 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that he's going to have to influence his team. 458 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: Motivated teams to play d They were giving up wide 459 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: open threes to the Brooklyn Nets in the first half, 460 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: and so that was It's a big reason why they 461 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: got to go to overtime again, and they are lucky. 462 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: If he doesn't win MVP. I like his chances to 463 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 3: win Clutch Player of the Year. He keeps, you know, 464 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: taking over games down the stretch and in overtime. Maybe 465 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: he's got the early lead. There were you going to 466 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: say something about this game? 467 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 468 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: At one point, Aaron Gordon threw NICOLEA. 469 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: Jokic a full core outlet pass from an inbounds Jokic 470 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: catches it. Not a beauty getting it up to the rim, 471 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: but he scored and made NBA dot COM's top ten 472 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: plays of the night. 473 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: Bosti said Jokic was running a nine point nine forty. Oh, 474 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: it was a slow break, would be deep by Jokic. 475 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: You should retire. It was weird to see Jokic leak 476 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: out and beat them down the floor. You don't see 477 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: that often. It's obviously the reverse where he's throwing those passes. 478 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: But that, wow, that made the top ten plays of 479 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: the night. They did ten plays on a four game night. 480 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, started with bo saying, only four games in the association, 481 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: but we're going to full top. 482 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that kind of night. 483 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Gary Payton jumping didn't make it Sire Williams though 484 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: he didn't make it, had at the rim. 485 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: How high can he jump? Was the number one play. 486 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: Kaminga's a little h dunk on the the Luca pass. 487 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah okay, okay, yeah, the yeah, the hook shot of 488 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: Nikola Yokid shooting over a six to seven guy. And 489 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: during Finney Smith could have made it. But during Finney 490 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: Smith was literally this he was sort of the starting center. 491 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: He was out there because they had Nick Klaxon coming 492 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: off the bench again no Ben Simmons in this one 493 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: in a back to back situation. I looked at that 494 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: and I said, Okay, the Nuggets are going to win. 495 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: They're going to do it. They're gonna when you start 496 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: looking at those those lineups, right, and I guess that's 497 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: what Then I gets thought too, and that's why their 498 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: effort Levet was low. 499 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: I just like, what's the thinking on that? Okay, DFS 500 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: is on him. It's okich, he's going to back him up. 501 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: Send somebody else, like help the guy a little bit. 502 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: Here's a two point game. 503 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: They it was the only time the entire game that 504 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: the Nets actually guarded the three point line. 505 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: They were giving you. 506 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: They're like, we're We're happy to get you kitch a 507 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: two rather than I guess, generate a wide open three 508 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: point look because we're getting the ball back. They got 509 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: a great look. 510 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah as a break, Yeah, an easy score for you. 511 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: Kitch over dfs and you're right. And then he missed 512 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: the corner three. It was a good look. The final game, 513 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: Sibona scored twenty eight points as the Kings ran past 514 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: the Jazz one thirteen to ninety six. One story from 515 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: this game, Lowry markinen he didn't come back to the 516 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: second half because of back soreness and sort of The 517 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: Kings then broke open this game. Jazz have lost their 518 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: last two home games by combined fifty eight points. Jazz 519 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: are one of the few teams left. I guess it's 520 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: them and the Pistons that haven't won a game yet. 521 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: I think those are the only two teams that are 522 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: still looking for their first w. But yeah, they're a 523 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: bad team, they're a young team, and you know, Kings 524 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: are getting it going here. This was an easy victory. 525 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: It was, but last year Demantas Sabonis was pretty adamant 526 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 4: that they had to play better against the bad teams 527 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 4: because they got up for the great teams, and when 528 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 4: they went into the offseason, he said, that's what we 529 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: have to get better at. And you know, they had 530 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: a just a sub five hundred record last year against 531 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 4: the the sub five hundred teams and so far to 532 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 4: and oh the Blazers and Jazz. Now there aren't going 533 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: to be many bad teams in the Western right, so 534 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 4: they took care of them. And then the two losses 535 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: that they had, the Wolves and the Lakers, they played 536 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 4: close games till the fourth quarter where they didn't close 537 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: it out all that well, so not a bad thing. Also, 538 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: one change for Demats Bonus this year shooting more threes. 539 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: He's they were talking about that and he still he's 540 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 4: doing it. He's five to eleven now from three point land. 541 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 4: It's pretty solid, very solid, and hopefully he keeps that up. 542 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: That makes sense with Damar beside him, and Kevin Herder 543 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: is going to keep shooting those threes. The starting shooting guard, 544 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: who I didn't expect him to be the starting shooting 545 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: guard when they traded for him. Yes, but since Keyan 546 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: Alis has been a great defender, I thought Kevin Herder 547 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: is going to the bench. But Kevin herders he's a 548 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: solid player who's solid in that twenty one Conference finals 549 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: run for the Atlanta Hawks. Yeah, I don't care if 550 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 4: I'm going four years back. He was good back then. 551 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: And Keon Allis came off the bench and was awesome too, 552 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 4: defensively because that's what he does and multiple assists, multiple 553 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: steals in this game. It's hard to do for the 554 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: limited minutes he plays. But they're solid. They're just a 555 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: solid team that's not going to be headlined because they're 556 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: two and two. But I feel better than there with 557 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: their two and two rather than the Heels two and 558 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: two or the Nuggets or yeah, for sure. 559 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Any thoughts on Kings or Jazz not a lot. 560 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: It looked like the Kings won the practice. They looked 561 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: like they were just running their stuff and it was working. 562 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: The ball movement was great, the player movement was great. 563 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: There must have been eighty baskets for Sacramento and back 564 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: cuts in this one. So the Jazz we were talking 565 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: about they're probably going to be tanking this year. They're 566 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: not even waiting. Man, They've got a chance to be 567 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: the worst team in the league. Yeah, because you have 568 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: to think eventually, maybe somebody calls about Colin Sexton or like, 569 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: there's no reason really to keep him around. 570 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: I saw John Collins last night. 571 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, forget that guy plays in the league. 572 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: But he had a nice dunk. 573 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, Dearon Fox threw the ball off Walter Walker 574 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: Kessler's back on an inbounce play. 575 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: Tricky stuff. 576 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Kevin Herder starts because they trust 577 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: the shooting more than Kean Ellis. He's got a longer 578 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: rep brought into rosan Is. Even though he's shooting more, 579 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: he's not a shooter. You need some space out there. Yeah, 580 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: ergo put on Kevin Game seven. Kevin remember they called 581 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: him that? 582 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: Oh do they? 583 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, one good game seven, that'll do it. Yeah, they 584 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: I mean, and they've got their rotation is sort of said. 585 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: I mean, there are three guys that come off the bench. 586 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: Is a monk obviously didn't have a great game last night. Uh, 587 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: Ken Ellis, we'll get minutes too, and then they're big. 588 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: It's like their lone big that plays is Trey Lewles. 589 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: Those were like sort of the three guys that come 590 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: off the bench. For the most part, it turned into 591 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 3: a blowout, so a couple other guys got minutes last night. 592 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: But for the most part that's the rotation. 593 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, could it be John Collins? Why not? 594 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: You're saying John Collins to the Kings? 595 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: Why not? 596 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: Damn John Collins? And trade rumors again. 597 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: He should be. I'm checking the salaries. I don't know 598 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 4: if they want two years of John at twenty six 599 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 4: mil still got two years yeah this year and a 600 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: player option for next year. It's a big lot. 601 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: He is absolutely a forgotten NBA player. Yeah, he really is. 602 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: And he had a good gamelast night, so maybe, yeah, 603 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: maybe that helps the trade value if anybody wants him. 604 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: Let's get to some news here. The big news yesterday 605 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 3: was Rudy Gay is retiring after seventeen NBA seasons. He 606 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: announced this on the Players Tribune. He had an essay. 607 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was really good. Gay last played in 608 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: the twenty two to twenty three season for the Jazz. 609 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: He had signed a contract with the Warriors last summer, 610 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: but he was waived shortly before the season and he 611 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: has decided to hang it up. Did you guys get 612 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: a chance to read his Player's Tribune essay? 613 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: I have not yet. 614 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I liked it. I enjoyed it was cool. 615 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: I liked him. He gave a lot of like specific 616 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: shout outs to players that helped him in his career 617 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: and just like basically his buddies too, Like like he 618 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: was glowing praise for Demato, Rosen Lowry, Mike Miller. You know, 619 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 3: it's sort of fun like that he goes through all 620 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 3: these guys. But yeah, it was good. Highly recommend it. 621 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: Rudy Gay never an All Star, He'll probably be like 622 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: he'll probably be on those lists though, right like greatest 623 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: you know those greatest players to never make an All 624 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Star game. He won't be at the top of it. 625 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: But if you make the list long enough, Rudy Gay's 626 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: name will come up, right. I like that, like good season. 627 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Sick highlights, like he is one of the paragons of 628 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: the basketball player versus Hooper debates. Basketball or NBA players 629 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: love Rudy game. They swear he could have been one 630 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: of the best out there. Just never an efficient player, 631 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: but could get good shots, could get shots at the 632 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: very least. I'll say that much because a lot of 633 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: what I was seeing yesterday when Rudy Gay retired was 634 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: a bunch of his game winners. Like the guy hit 635 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: a ton of game winners, including of course the not 636 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: this guy won instead the Toronto Raptors, which literally a 637 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: Raptors fan sitting courtside is like anybody, he goes out 638 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: makes the shot. I also had a great quote after 639 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: he hit a game winner against the Heat against Lebron, 640 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: hit it over Lebron. They asked him, like what it 641 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: meant to him to hit a game winner over Lebron? 642 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: You know, a big, big time player. He said, I 643 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: don't care if James Naysmith was guarding me, which would 644 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: be scary because he's dead. 645 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: Cool, cool and hit a game winner. I don't care 646 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: if James Nate Smith was guarding me. It didn't matter. Yep. 647 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: Rudy Gay played over eleven hundred games, the seventy first 648 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: most ever, so he's like up there on that list, 649 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: nearly eighteen thousand points. He's around eighty ninth, ninetieth on 650 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: the all time list. Had a great stretch where he 651 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: did average like basically twenty points per game, like over 652 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: an eight year stretch. So he was a bucket and 653 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: he made like something like one hundred and eighty five 654 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: million dollars. He had a great career. That's what I'm 655 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: getting at here. Just never an All start. We don't 656 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: have to have, like, is Rudy Gay a Hall of 657 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: Famer debate? I really don't think we need to do that. 658 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: Would you put him in the Hall of very Good? 659 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: I would not, You'd put him in all of pretty good? 660 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: Pretty good? Yeah, Okay, you got to make an All 661 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: Star team to be very good. 662 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's never in those conversations at all. 663 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: Best guy to make an All Star Game, he's just 664 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: not to. 665 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: Never make an All stargam yeah, yes. 666 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: Excuse yeah, like the guys, you know, current guys who 667 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: have retired last few Yeah, why. 668 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: I think he isn't? I thought he made one. I'll 669 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: be honest. I just thought Rudy Gue had like one 670 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: All Star Game under his belt, like made it as 671 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: an injury replacement one year. But yeah did it? 672 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: I mean he scored a lot. Yeah for those years. 673 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 4: He never won a playoff series with Memphis. Memphis snuck 674 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: out and won a playoff series when he was injured 675 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: one season, and then they made a conference finals after 676 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: he left. So yeah, never be on the first round. 677 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: How many playoff games did he even play? 678 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: Played seven with Memphis because they went to one seven 679 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: game series and then later on he played Which team 680 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: did he play with? 681 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: He played very few playoff games? Holy crap. Yeah, he 682 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: played in three series his entire career. That's a wild 683 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: and I know Rudy even says in the Player's Tribune article, 684 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I know the whole thing. I got traded, 685 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: team got better. He addresses it. It's like brought it up. 686 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: It's like sort of a weird little quirk. And a 687 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: couple teams improved when they moved. 688 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Him, Yeah they did. And Memphis like went the farther 689 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: they went when he got hurt. 690 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they needed they need to distribute a little 691 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: bit on that on those teams way back when. So 692 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: that was a blessing for them in a weird way, 693 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: and they moved on. I'm surprised he gave a lot 694 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: of love to Lowry. 695 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, career with. 696 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: Them, Yeah, I guess they're buds. 697 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 698 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: He was on. He was the backup, was the mad 699 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: backup on Memphis. He was angry, why do I got 700 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: to be the backup here? And then he turned to 701 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: an incredible player with the Toronto Raptors. Also the nickname. 702 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: Since you've been talking about Big Rig Tray for Powel 703 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: Bancaro Big Truck on Basketball Reference for Rudy Game. 704 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: I've never heard that one. 705 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't remember Truck, big truck, and truck. Okay, Now, 706 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: the Great Rudini starts at starts all the nicknames, the 707 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: Great Rudini, Big Truck, and Truck. The only nickname of 708 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: the hilarious he never had. He never really had a 709 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: nickname that stuck with him, because I haven't heard any 710 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: of these either. The Great Rudine never heard of. 711 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: A truck guy. Okay, drive a truck. He got to 712 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 2: the bottom of the jazz subreddit. Fans may not know 713 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: that Gay was given the nicknames truck and big Truck 714 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: by former Yukon head coach Jim Calhoun due to his 715 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: resemblance to former Boston Celtics great Reggie Lewis. Interesting, okay, 716 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: doesn't give any more clarity to why they called him 717 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: big Truck. 718 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: No does to Rudy Gay look like Reggie Lewis, I 719 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: don't know, just. 720 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: Because he looked like I don't know. I don't think so. 721 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: All right, So, Rudy Gay, happy trails. Let's hear do 722 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: you think? Well? First off, do you want to make 723 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: the case Rudy Gay should go in the whole thing 724 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: or is he in the Hall of very Good or 725 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: just the Hall pretty Good? 726 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he can be in the discussion for 727 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: a best player to not make an All Star. 728 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm discussion. 729 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: I think he'll be on those lists discussion. I think 730 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: the best player ever who won't make it to an 731 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: All Star game, it's gonna be Jamal Murray. I mean 732 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: that's on. 733 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: There's still time, man, there's still time, I know. 734 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: But right here, right now, currently Western Conference is heavy 735 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: with a lot of players. This ain't looking that good. 736 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 4: And he fits Jason Terry to a t. A guy 737 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: who is the second best player on a championship team 738 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: called him the second best, called Jason Terry the second 739 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: best player. I mean, there's a lot of second best 740 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: players on that mass team. But he came off the 741 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: bench and hit some huge shots in fourth quarters. Jamal 742 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: Murray clearly was the second best player on that Nuggets 743 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: Team's similar, similar type of things. But yeah, it's gonna 744 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: be Jamal Murray, I think. Unfortunately, let's get to a 745 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: little rumor here. Per Jake Fisher, the Nets are one 746 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: of two teams as of right now that are reportedly 747 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: interested in going after Warriors forward Jonathan Kaminga in free 748 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: agency next offseason. Quote, the Nets are going to be 749 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: a stocking horse for everyone, what Fisher said on his 750 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: bleacher Report stream. So yeah, it makes sense that the 751 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: Nets would want more talent. 752 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: You I'm talent at that. They're gonna have cap space, 753 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 3: be one of the few teams with that. And obviously 754 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: the Warriors did not come to a contract extension with Kaminga. 755 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: He will hit free agency. Maybe the Nets will be 756 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: a player TK, You have any thoughts on this? Is 757 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 3: that type of player the Nets should be targeting. October 758 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: slop Man. What happened in the game. 759 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 4: I love. 760 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: His best game of the season he did last night. Yes, 761 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: the noticer noticed that. 762 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: Notice they came off the bench when the Warriors were 763 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: missing two of their starters and Kuminga wanted a big 764 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: deal that they didn't come to an agreement on interesting stuff. 765 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: The Nets are gonna have the most cap space next summer, 766 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: so you're gonna hear them in the mix. I think 767 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: for basically every free agent who comes up, likely except 768 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: for Miles Turner because they did sign Nick Claxton. So 769 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: what's the point there. But yeah, the Nets should go 770 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: against go for a guy like KAMINGI. He's gonna be 771 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: twenty three next summer. The Warriors, maybe you can make 772 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: it too expensive for them because it just doesn't seem 773 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: like they think Kaminga fits there. He's a four, but 774 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: as is Draymond Green. Draymond wants to play next to 775 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: a five, which then meets kaminga three. Kminga thinks I'm 776 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: a three. Steve Curse ays your best as a four. 777 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: It's weird. 778 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: Everything's just a little bit weird there. So my guess 779 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 2: is that if you overpay Kaminga hope he lives up 780 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: to the deal, you could probably steal him away because 781 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: the Warriors wouldn't matchine. Certainly, the Nets need more talent, 782 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: and he's young enough still that you can pitch him 783 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: as a future guy. You put him and Cam Thomas 784 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: next to each other. Oh, we're talking sixty points and 785 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: two assists between those two guys. 786 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, yeah, he will be a stalking horse playing 787 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: beside Cam Thomas. I'm sure because Cam Thomas wants the ball. Anyways, 788 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: I just wanted to say stocking horse, and the Nets 789 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: will be a stalking horse for sure. It is that 790 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: time nonother twenty twenty five free agent crop isn't all 791 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 4: that amazing. No, so Kaminga could be his time to 792 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 4: get paid. And I wonder who who declined that more? 793 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 4: Who's who's a harder decliner between the Warriors and yeah, 794 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: the free agent agent for mister Kuminga so TVD. But 795 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: he's going to get paid next year and the Nets 796 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: are going to pay somebody. I guess it could be. 797 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: It could be that they could easily be the team like, 798 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: oh I could. 799 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: I got on Brooklyn, they got a lot of money 800 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: and then they ended up signing Johan Petro again. 801 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 4: Oh ia that yeah? 802 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: Uh, here's some other news. Netflix rolling out a news 803 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: star studded starting five for the twenty four twenty five season. 804 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 3: This will be season two, of course, of starting five 805 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: second season of the Netflix docu Sari. It's gonna follow 806 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: the following Tyrese Haliburton, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Shay Gilders, 807 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: Alexander and Jalen Brown. We had a Celtic and Jason Tatum. 808 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: We're running it back with Jalen Brown. Did you ever 809 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: end up watching this test the starting five of obviously 810 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: the first. 811 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 4: Season No, it was too tight with the date for 812 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 4: the starting of the regular season. 813 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: And that's funny you say that. I know that was 814 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 3: Trey's sort of you know, complain to It was like, 815 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: butted up right at the start of this season and 816 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: you're watching players from last season and then as soon 817 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: as the seasons starting, like, okay, that's in the past 818 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: two years. But as I've heard people that enjoyed it, 819 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like, also not at all for 820 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: people like us, That's exactly right. 821 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: It's fir That's why it comes out right before the 822 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: season starts, because for us, it would make most sense 823 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 2: to come out in September. There's nothing happening. We could 824 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: go catch up on what happened last year. See Lebron 825 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: in a costume. I watched five episodes. 826 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: Like Laura was into it. 827 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: She's like, ooh, let's check this out. I was like, oh, 828 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: quite cool. We can watch this together. And that's similar 829 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: to what they did with Drive to Survive, right, Like 830 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: that comes out right before the f one season starts 831 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: to get the people who don't actually follow the sport 832 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: hyped for the next season starting. Yep, we're following the 833 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: sport NonStop. We have opinions on lending Waters the third 834 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, so it's not necessarily for us, But there 835 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: was moments I liked. But then the season started and 836 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I go back and watch the five 837 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: episodes I haven't finished. 838 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 3: Probably not, Yeah, yeah, was there a lot of like 839 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 3: parenting I've heard, you know, them with their kids and 840 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: their family. 841 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean definitely. You see Lebron and 842 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: his family, Tatum induce. You basically get to see Anthony 843 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: Edwards's daughter be born, Like you see the first time 844 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: that he holds his daughter. You're seeing his daughter two 845 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: minutes old. I felt a little bit like I shouldn't. 846 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 3: Be seeing this right now. I was watching it. That 847 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 3: was crazy interesting. I recently had like a cross country 848 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 3: flight with my buddy, your buddy, our buddy Grish, and 849 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: he watched He watched the whole thing, the whole series 850 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: from Atlanta to Seattle. Now I know you're thinking, it's 851 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 3: not that long a flight. Our buddy Grish, he's a 852 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: weird cat man. He like he'll just like scrub through shows. 853 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 3: So he'd like watch a part and then you just like 854 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 3: drag his finger like to another part. But he watched. 855 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: He watched I put that in air quotes. I guess 856 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: pieces of all, how is it eight or ten? Up? Okay? 857 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 3: And he I was like, well, how was it? It's okay. 858 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 3: He's like he basically was picking. He's like Anthony Edwards stuff. 859 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: I loved some of the other ones. He didn't. He 860 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: didn't care for. I don't think he was a big 861 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: Simonis guy. He was just skipping. So I sort of 862 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: watched it over his shoulder a little bit. It's like, oh, 863 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: I remember that dunk. 864 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 4: But maybe it was when the baby came out, and 865 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 4: he said, no, I can't skip this. But I don't know. 866 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 4: That's just modern people. Man, We're just we're skipping. We're 867 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 4: just we're just bypassing a lot of stuff. Even in 868 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 4: article sounds. Drop a few paragraphs here, just move along, 869 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 4: move along. 870 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: Move on. It's insane to me, but I'm sure other 871 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: people do it. I'm sure he's not the only one. 872 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 3: But can you say you watched the show if you 873 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: do it that way, because to me, that's like reading 874 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 3: a book, but like skipping, just skipping chapters, just jump 875 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: ahead to another part, maybe read a little bit, don't 876 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: jump ahead again, and then finished the book. Interesting did 877 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: you really read the book? I don't know. I say no. 878 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 2: If you were to watch Shawshank Redemption just by catching 879 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: it when it was on TV and you're like a 880 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: ten minutes. 881 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: It all ends up to two and a half hours. 882 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: I've seen it, but have I He probably knows everything 883 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: that happens, right, He's like, hey, the Celtics one, Wow, 884 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 3: that's true. Yeah, he did know spoiler alert. 885 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 2: He knew everything that was going to happen before it started. 886 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: So why do you pay attention? 887 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: Really makes you think. 888 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 4: I hope that they do air it a little bit earlier, and. 889 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: A little bit earlier would help. 890 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 4: I think it may happen because there's no Olympics. There 891 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: is really a lot of NBA stuff happening. There's there's 892 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 4: less NBA stuff. 893 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 3: Isn't there an Olympic show coming? Am I crazy? 894 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: There is a some sort of documentary about the Metal team, 895 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: for sure, that'll be cool. 896 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: A year after Well, at least it went coolly. We 897 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: had some cool moments obviously with Lebron and Curry. 898 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't. I don't know if they need 899 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: to release it that late just because of all the editing, 900 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: But there's no reason there's no reason I drop it 901 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 4: a little bit earlier. 902 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: Are you excited about this cast or no? Opinion? 903 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm trying to alibert and it's. 904 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 3: Shay, it's Jayleen Brown, And who's Kevin Durant? 905 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 4: Yeah? What do you got? What you got? 906 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 3: Bumped? 907 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 4: It all depends on the It depends. 908 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 3: I was excited for the first TRON and I'm asking 909 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 3: about the characters here, the people they've picked. Are you excited? No, Okay, 910 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: I'm excited. If James Harden goes to the club, that 911 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: would be the most to be Let's see what he's 912 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: really like away from the basketball court. 913 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 4: I wonder how much of that will get listen. I'm happy. 914 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 4: I'm happy to watch it. I'm happy to watch the 915 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 4: first season because I'm actually more happy to see the 916 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 4: parenting parts. I know, all the basketball, yeah, and how 917 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 4: he dealt with Brownie at USC and his cardiac issue, 918 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 4: that whole thing. Yes, you to watch that. Happy to 919 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 4: watch it a little bit earlier in the season. I mean, 920 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 4: I know what happened in twenty three twenty four. 921 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you'll know what happens in twenty four to 922 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: twenty five when this one comes out. 923 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: Maybe you should just take the whole season off. That's 924 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: the way to do it. I watch it without knowing. 925 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 3: That'd be exciting, let'd me very excited. 926 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, we need stuff to watch in the 927 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 4: off season. That's when people are all online saying I 928 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 4: need something, I need something. Well, the last Dance was released. 929 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 3: We had, we had nothing happening. 930 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: There was so little going on in the world that 931 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 2: they said, ESPN, you can't wait another month pub out 932 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: the last Dance. 933 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 4: Right, and everybody watched it. Yep, yeah, yeah, just do 934 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 4: it earlier when nobody has any basketball to. 935 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 3: Watch and we knew how that went as well. You're right, 936 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: but that was great that. Yes, twenty years past and 937 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: we learned things we didn't. 938 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I thought, But yeah, it ain't the same interesting, 939 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: It's just like we said it, it's not for us. 940 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 3: It's not for us. That's why I'm in to Drive 941 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: to Survive because I'm not like following the F one 942 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: season all that close. Interesting. 943 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 2: I started following F one more closely and liked to 944 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 2: Drive to Survive less. 945 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that there's 946 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 3: more you told her about the sport. The less you 947 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 3: care about the documentary one hundred percent agree. 948 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 2: He's not even gonna watch it if if I watch 949 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: the twenty three twenty four to one next summer. 950 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: Hey, I loved watching, Uh, I loved watching, but drive 951 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 4: what's called. 952 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: You the worst? 953 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm selling a show man I love. I don't need 954 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 4: to sell that show. Everybody watched it. F one is 955 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 4: popular in America because of that. 956 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then it turned out F one sucked 957 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: because it's well, actually, this season is a little bit better. 958 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that it's close. It's closer. It's closer, closer. Okay, anyway, 959 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: let's get to pick them results, not pickup results. Our 960 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 3: game tonight is what I wanted to say, because we 961 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 3: got a nice battle going on here. Uh Trace two 962 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: and four, so he's currently in last place, but tassin 963 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 3: are three and three and shes four and two. Tonight's 964 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: game task important here. 965 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: It is for the standing pick them to serve is 966 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: Atlanta at Washington. Now, they just did this. They just 967 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 4: did this, and justly did. Washington took care of the Hawks. 968 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 4: So the Hawks are three and a half point favorites 969 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 4: here as they do it one more time in Washington, 970 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 4: this time first game was it in Atlanta right now? 971 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 4: Most of us feel that the Hawks will take care 972 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 4: of it. Bun Back win by four or more, while 973 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 4: Trey thinks the Whiz will lose by three or less or. 974 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: Wit Maybe the Wiz have the Hawks number. You saw 975 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 3: it in person, this guy saw something. Guess who was 976 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 3: last in the dock here? I got screwed auto rhythm here. 977 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 3: We took a year off from pick them. 978 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 2: Now when I copied the dock into my own notes, 979 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 2: I don't get to pick them until the end. I'm like, 980 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 2: oh no, a lot of question marks next to my name. 981 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 3: I go in. Everybody else's picked Atlanta. 982 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: The line is three and a half points, much much 983 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: too small. This line should be like six and a half, 984 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: maybe eight and a half. 985 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: So you're starting, you're forced into taking the Wizard. You 986 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 3: think four Hawks goes on the bottom. That would look ridiculous, right, 987 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: And you got to make up a game here too. Yeah, 988 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 3: you're in a tough spot. 989 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 4: We could have changed the game. I'm way too empathetic 990 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 4: for people, so I knew that it would be a 991 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: little crappy for you if all three had picked the Hawks, 992 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 4: and I thought, okay, maybe we can change it. I 993 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 4: actually looked, because JD creates, uh these graphics. I saw 994 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 4: where JD was? Was he? Where was he? Because we 995 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 4: see we see in the breakdown, in the rundown of 996 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 4: this show, where I see where JD is literally putting 997 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: things into his program to see where he is? Is 998 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 4: he is he already down down there? You were literally 999 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 4: had that graphic highlighted, so you were just doing you 1000 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 4: were doing it then and there like, Okay, it's seven 1001 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 4: am or whatever it is. Does he deserve a call? 1002 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 4: Does he deserve a slack? Right here? Right now? I said, 1003 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 4: it's baby, because you can wine right, you could easily. 1004 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 3: This is the Hawks we're talking about. There is I 1005 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 3: have very little confidence in them little winning lettlone covering. 1006 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you do have some points to play with. 1007 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll make it exciting. Let's go wiz. Hopefully 1008 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 3: they cover, and then we'd have three of us tie 1009 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 3: three and four going into the last night. That'd be 1010 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: exciting stuff, exciting times. Otherwise it's a wrap. I guess 1011 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 3: the Hawks cover. Yeah, we'll have a pickle man here. 1012 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 4: The other week, the other game, I thought that after 1013 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 4: the Warriors took care of the Pelicans, would be redo 1014 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 4: of Warriors and Pelicans playing again back to back, both 1015 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 4: in Golden State. Warriors faired by two and a half. 1016 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: I don't know where everybody's picking there, or would it 1017 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 4: be the same scenario. We're all picking the Pelicans. They 1018 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 4: can't lose you. 1019 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: In a row. Interesting. I think I would have taken 1020 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 3: the Warriors in that one. 1021 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 4: We could redo it. Can we just retape this show? 1022 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 3: We honestly feels like we should. I think we gave 1023 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 3: you a quality show here today. I'm being honest. I 1024 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: didn't have a ton to work with. That's okay. We 1025 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 3: got eleven games on tonight. Boys, we go to bounce 1026 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: back tomorrow. 1027 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: I'd rather watch this show than starting five season two. 1028 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, yeah. We have a ton of games on, 1029 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 3: including that Hawk's Wizard's game and a lot on the 1030 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 3: line when it comes to a man wearing a pickle costume, 1031 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 3: So make sure you check that out. We're here at 1032 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 3: ten am Eastern tomorrow morning to break it all down. 1033 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 3: Get your questions in No Dunks at the Athletic dot com. 1034 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: You can email them in, you can drop me in 1035 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: the YouTube comments, you can tweet them in at No Dunksinc. 1036 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 3: That's I NC on Twitter slash x however you want. 1037 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: At some point we'll be hitting the beach, so get 1038 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: those cues in before we go. Jad, I think you 1039 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 3: have a photo. I have to ask our guy TK. 1040 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: Here's Trey dressed as the Meatman and pregnant. When I'm 1041 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 3: wrong track, you showed up at last night's pickup run. 1042 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 3: I could unfortunately couldn't make it last night. But did 1043 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: you play as Meatman? 1044 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: I warmed up as Meatman, but as you're seeing here, 1045 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: the full fingers not great for handling a basketb but 1046 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 2: also the full face. Can't really see through it. Yeah, 1047 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 2: I can see the outline of the backboard. You know, 1048 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: it's got like the white stripe around it. So I 1049 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: would just aim for like the bottom middle of that 1050 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 2: made a couple. I was feeling good about that, but uh, 1051 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 2: pretty quickly arm. 1052 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: Pits were getting irritated. Oh the really getting up in there. 1053 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: But you know, just fun to show up. So I 1054 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 3: got another pick up run Friday. 1055 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: I'll probably do it again. 1056 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: Oh wow, maybe take the pickle. Who knows I could 1057 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 3: play in the pickle? You could play in the pickle. Yeah, 1058 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: that'd be a good one because you got full arm. 1059 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: Move full arm movement. Yeah, full hand usage. It's like 1060 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 3: the cutout of the face. You're fine, Yeah, okay, okay, 1061 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 3: Friday run. We'll see more photos if the Hawks win. 1062 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: If the Hawks win by four or more points than 1063 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm hooping on in Friday, Friday in a pickle, Okay, 1064 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: leave it more. I gotta do everything for an entire 1065 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: week where your pickle comes even away from the show. 1066 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,280 Speaker 3: I thought the only rule we said was yet to drive. 1067 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 3: For some reason, You're gonna do weekickle man, sleep in 1068 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 3: a pickle, fair enough, babe. The task is like, the 1069 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 3: task is gonna be pumped like we said. 1070 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do love pickles. 1071 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you guys tomorrow. What a weird show, 1072 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 3: Cliver bros. You heard it here first, have a great time, 1073 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: turn up, Love you guys awesome. 1074 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember this is serious. And 1075 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 4: Kong as well as bogged down by Donovic, questionable for tonight. 1076 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: So you never get Boki's out a month? Is here? 1077 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 4: In a month? 1078 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, crazy, He's gonna be out for a long time. 1079 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: Either it's meat time. Maybe no, he's hurt. He's hurt. 1080 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: He's also heard he got hitting the dickens and that's 1081 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: the second half of the game. 1082 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: He said, you don't think he'll play tonight. He's got 1083 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 3: to write a doctor strength and they called it, but 1084 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 3: but it's the dickens. I couldn't tell what he was grabbing. 1085 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: He wasn't wearing the meat man costume because I couldn't 1086 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 2: totally see he was grabbing the muscle or the muscle. 1087 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: All right, Embrace the day, BEFO.