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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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Speaker 1: the choices we make. My guest today is an inspiration

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Speaker 1: and a role model in how she chooses to use

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Speaker 1: her name and platform as a vocal advocate. Evet Nicole

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Speaker 1: Brown is an Emmy nominated actress, comedian, and host, best

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Speaker 1: known for her beloved role as Shirley Bennett on NBC's

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Speaker 1: hit series Community. Offscreen, she is a champion in caregiving,

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Speaker 1: diversity in Hollywood, and the beauty of aging gracefully, all

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Speaker 1: rooted in kindness and respect. I'm thrilled to welcome my friend,

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Speaker 1: vet Nicole Brown. Oh my gosh, you are just out

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Speaker 1: there so much right now, lifting everybody up. I saw

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Speaker 1: you meet up with Kamala, I saw you presenting a

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Speaker 1: big award to one of my favorite humans.

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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Speaker 1: And I just gotta know, like, how are you being

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Speaker 1: so busy and fabulous? Like how are you finding joy

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Speaker 1: in your personal life right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, Jinny Garth, I am very tired. I was just

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Speaker 2: talking to a friend this morning and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm where I'm getting the bandwidth to

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Speaker 2: finish everything. But how do you say no to going

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Speaker 2: to hear Kamala speak? How do you say no to

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Speaker 2: present in award to one of your dear friends? How

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Speaker 2: do you say no to getting up early and putting

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Speaker 2: on a lash to talk to you? Like, there's some

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Speaker 2: things you just don't say no to. So I'm finding

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Speaker 2: the balance because you know, I'm newly married as well,

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Speaker 2: which I have to figure out how to be a

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Speaker 2: wife in my fifties.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Let's have that talk. But my husband's really lovely and

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Speaker 2: he's a very kind, peaceful man. There's no trauma or

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Speaker 2: drama in our relationship or in our life. And so

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Speaker 2: even if I'm slaying dragons outside the house or in

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Speaker 2: my booth, when I come out of my little booth,

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Speaker 2: he's there with some tea. He made me my tea

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Speaker 2: this morn And you know, he's just a really nice man.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's been the thing that's made this season

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Speaker 2: of time possible.

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Speaker 1: He'd better be a good man, because you deserve it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just I love you, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's okay to just, you know, get into the

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Speaker 1: deep stuff with you. Oh my gosh, speaking of joy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're getting ready to celebrate your first wedding anniversaries.

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Speaker 2: Correct, he's coming up in a couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you waited for everybody that doesn't know. You waited

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Speaker 1: to find love. You waited to find the right kind

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Speaker 1: of love, which is absolutely and I choose me moment.

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Speaker 1: So how is it now, one year later, settling in

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Speaker 1: to being a wife, And are you still in the

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Speaker 1: honeymoon phase or are you annoying you yet? What's happening?

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Speaker 2: You know? I think listen, I think we were annoying

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Speaker 2: each other as friends for years, So it's not there's

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Speaker 2: nothing new about that, you know, I'm finding I say

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Speaker 2: to myself often, I wish that I had we had

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Speaker 2: gotten together earlier. I wish that life had happened differently

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Speaker 2: and I could have met him earlier, and you know,

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Speaker 2: he could have been my husband through my twenties and

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Speaker 2: thirties and forties. But then I realized that perhaps the

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Speaker 2: person that I was then would not have either been

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Speaker 2: able to see him in all that he is, or

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Speaker 2: you know, I feel like in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to do it this way, Like I

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Speaker 2: was supposed to go forward and fully understand what it

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Speaker 2: means to be a woman and to be an entrepreneur

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Speaker 2: and to be an actor. And you know, I built

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Speaker 2: a wonderful life and was able to care for my

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Speaker 2: dad for ten years before Tony came back into my life.

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Speaker 2: So it played out how it was supposed to play out.

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Speaker 2: But I hope that my leaden life love reminds people

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Speaker 2: that it's never too late, and that even though society

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Speaker 2: in this world tells you that you have to be you,

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Speaker 2: I'm married by twenty five. You're hearing about thirty had

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Speaker 2: him babies. They make you feel like you missed it,

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Speaker 2: and it's somehow life is. You did it wrong, and

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Speaker 2: everybody does it differently. Some people are blessed to have babies.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't blessed to have babies. Some people are blessed

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Speaker 2: to get married. I for the longest time, I wasn't

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Speaker 2: blessed to get married. But there's joy and beauty in

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Speaker 2: make sure that I keep flying that flag so no

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Speaker 2: one thinks that now that I'm married, y'all better get

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Speaker 2: over here. Y'all better get over here. If it's the

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Speaker 2: on the other side because it's nice over there too.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I was just thinking about that, like timing

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Speaker 1: in life, like things, you think things should have happened earlier.

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Speaker 1: You wish that had happened earlier, so you had had

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Speaker 1: more time and you could have gotten further whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: If you're finding things later in life like we have,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're so right. It didn't happen for a.

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Speaker 2: Reason, reason and reason.

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Speaker 1: There's something so profound in looking at that space and

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Speaker 1: finding what the reasons were, so you can really fully

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Speaker 2: And I also feel like, and tell me if you

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Speaker 2: feel this way too. I don't think anything we go

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Speaker 2: you know, people get into their little silos and it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I needed to learn this lesson. Maybe you're a cautionary

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Speaker 2: fun to be the one that people point to and go,

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Speaker 2: we don't do it like event because event. But I've

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Speaker 2: reached a point in my age in my life where

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Speaker 2: I'm at an age where I'm okay if something I

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Speaker 2: did taught someone what not to do, you're not saying.

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Speaker 2: It makes me happy to know that even my mistakes

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Speaker 2: can be used to bless other people. And that's also

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Speaker 2: why I try to be as transparent as possible as

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Speaker 2: I go through my life, so that people understand caregiving's

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Speaker 2: not scary. It's okay. If you're not married in your

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Speaker 2: thirties or forties, it's okay. If you find love late

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Speaker 2: in life, it's okay, if you don't have children. I

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Speaker 2: want people to know that all of those things are okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or life is okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The social pressures are crazy, and if you don't

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Speaker 1: feel the social pressures, you're either great at deflecting at

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Speaker 1: And I think about that too, because like, yeah, everything

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Speaker 1: oh man, the grass is always greener on the other side,

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Speaker 2: And as it right, it isn't a season. Like if

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Speaker 2: the best time in your life or the worst time

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Speaker 2: of your life. You're either saying, oh, I wish I

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Speaker 2: could go back there, or what was I thinking? But

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Speaker 2: that time. Yes, And what I say to people all

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Speaker 2: the time. The other reason why I'm okay with meeting

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Speaker 2: he had met me earlier, they wouldn't be here. And

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Speaker 2: So I am very happy to know that he created

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Speaker 2: these beings and they're a bit of him, and they're wonderful,

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Speaker 2: be a step mom to them, and so between them

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Speaker 2: and my god daughter Ella, I got to have the

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Speaker 2: experience of being in a child's life, and especially with Ella,

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Speaker 2: And I'm also modeling that it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 2: tell people who have gotten married, had kids, and then

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Speaker 2: got divorced, your DNA needed to mix with that other

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Speaker 2: they're going to do great things in the world, and

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Speaker 2: a part of the cog that created great humans down

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Speaker 1: Right now, everything happens the way it's supposed to happen.

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Speaker 1: It all works itself out. It sounds so cliche and

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Speaker 1: on top of it. Because you know, dating someone and

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Speaker 1: liking someone is one thing, but marrying them and living

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Speaker 2: They're all way there, they all way there.

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Speaker 1: They won't go away, they.

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Speaker 2: Won't go away. No, But you know what, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think I realized I was in

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Speaker 2: it was kinda do I tell her? Do I tell her?

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Speaker 2: enjoying getting to know. We're getting to know our friend again. Right,

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Speaker 2: So then by the time it moved towards I like you,

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Speaker 2: We're getting We're gonna get engaged, we're gonna get married.

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Speaker 2: All of it felt like just the path we were

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Speaker 2: always destined to be on.

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Speaker 2: There was no and this is, and this is, this

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Speaker 2: may not be fair, but I tell my friends, now

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Speaker 2: And this is just my opinion is they don't end

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Speaker 2: that either means that your connection with them is not

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Speaker 2: something your spidy senses are tingling about something when your

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Speaker 2: screenshotting texts and send them to you girls, going he

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Speaker 2: said this, what does this mean? Or he called me

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday and didn't hear When you're doing that, it's

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Speaker 2: a good indication that that's not the dude, because everyone

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Speaker 2: I know that's in a wrong relationship, they all tell

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Speaker 2: me that the other person was very clear. There was

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Speaker 2: no question if they liked them, There was no question

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Speaker 2: All of it was like if you have the fish,

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Speaker 2: if you got the fish.

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Speaker 2: with the amazing Tony Braxton, whose song Man Enough the

435
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Speaker 2: film is based on, and then also Essence Atkins who's

436
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Speaker 2: a dear friend of mine. And I read this script

437
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Speaker 2: and found out that my character had a husband. I

438
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Speaker 2: was like, what was playing a husband? Well, we haven't

439
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Speaker 2: cast him yet. I was like, could my husband audition anybody?

440
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Speaker 2: He can audition? But he got a wain it. We

441
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Speaker 2: ain't doing no favors and I said, well, okay, then

442
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Speaker 2: let it. I just want him to be able to

443
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Speaker 2: try for it. If he gets it, you know, great

444
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Speaker 2: if he doesn't. And my husband we met in an

445
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Speaker 2: acting class. He's he's been an actor, he just hasn't

446
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: done it in twenty years. So he's now getting back

447
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: to what all of us in class knew that he was.

448
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Speaker 2: He was the star of our class, and so when

449
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Speaker 2: he dropped out and didn't want to act anymore, we

450
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: all were like, what, Tony's not acting? So the idea

451
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Speaker 2: that Tony was getting back in was exciting to me

452
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Speaker 2: as a fan of his work, and he booked it.

453
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Speaker 2: So I had to go up to Vancouver and kissed

454
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Speaker 2: my own husband and rolled.

455
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Speaker 1: Utter stranger girl.

456
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Speaker 2: O can't the idea kissing a strange man or an actor? Like, oh,

457
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Speaker 2: come on, I don't want him to do it. So

458
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Speaker 2: I want to done it, that's my job, but I'm

459
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Speaker 2: so glad I didn't have to so that so this

460
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Speaker 2: film with the added bonus of getting to work with

461
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Speaker 2: Tony was really amazing. And then to work with Tony

462
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Speaker 2: Braxton and I've always wanted to get into that Lifetime family.

463
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Speaker 2: I heard that once you're in, it's like you're you're in,

464
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Speaker 2: You're in, so I can't. I look forward to doing

465
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Speaker 2: more things with Lifetime. So it was really easy. As

466
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Speaker 2: for other jobs, I wanted it needs to be in

467
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Speaker 2: LA because I'm a caregiver for my dad, have a dog,

468
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Speaker 2: and leaving is a lot of work.

469
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Speaker 1: Well that kind of like slims your it does just down.

470
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the thing that made saying yes

471
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Speaker 2: to even do a man enough tough because it would

472
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Speaker 2: would have been, you know, a month away, and I

473
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Speaker 2: was like, well, I don't you don't want to leave

474
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Speaker 2: my dad, don't want to leave Tony. And it worked

475
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Speaker 2: out because Tony was able to come, so I was

476
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Speaker 2: able to be with him and my dad has a

477
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Speaker 2: great caregiver, So all of that play worked out the

478
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Speaker 2: way it was supposed to. So proximity is important. Is

479
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Speaker 2: it something that says something that will help people in

480
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Speaker 2: some way. That's always important when I take a role.

481
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Speaker 2: And then is it something that I've never done that

482
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Speaker 2: I think I could do something fun and I've never

483
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Speaker 2: This character is really fun. She's she's smart, she's an attorney,

484
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Speaker 2: she's she's got jokes, but she also has heart. So

485
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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be people have seen me in

486
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Speaker 2: a way they've never seen me before. I hope that's what.

487
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see you lead your own movie. That

488
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Speaker 1: is for dang, sure close.

489
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Speaker 2: Star, you're my friend. You said lead. I'm strong Tony

490
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Speaker 2: is a lead. I'm happy to support.

491
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good good. Well there's something so fulfilling for

492
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Speaker 1: me personally about collaboration, and that's what movie making is

493
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Speaker 1: all about. Well, do you have any like stories from

494
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Speaker 1: your time on sets, like when you really felt that

495
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Speaker 1: magic of collaboration or the benefits from it.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, just so many times. I mean, of course,

497
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Speaker 2: community is the easiest answer, because everybody on that show

498
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Speaker 2: was like except for Chevy Chase, of course, but everyone

499
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Speaker 2: else on the show was right at the beginning of

500
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Speaker 2: what they were going to become in the industry. So

501
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: I got to have a front row seat for the

502
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: beginning of Donald Glover, in the beginning of Danny Putty,

503
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Speaker 2: in the beginning Gillian Jacobs and Alison Brie and you know,

504
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: even Ken Ken had just done the Hykover movie. But

505
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: he was he was a star, but he but he

506
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: hadn't become the fullness of everything that he is. And

507
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Speaker 2: Jim Rash oscar Winner Jim Rash like, So there's there

508
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: were a lot of parts of that experience that I

509
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Speaker 2: will never be able to duplicate as long as I live.

510
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: And we were a strong ensemble. So we supported each other,

511
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: celebrated each other, rooted for each other, encourage each other

512
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Speaker 2: to be as foolish as the other person could be,

513
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Speaker 2: and then delighted in their foolishness. Like, it was really

514
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Speaker 2: a lovely time. And we're still all really close. We

515
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: have a really lively group chat and birthdays aren't missed,

516
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: and weddings and babies being born have been celebrated. It's

517
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: been wonderful. So that was the probably the greatest career

518
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Speaker 2: collaboration of my life was the five years I did

519
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Speaker 2: on Community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like an incredibly supportive environment to get

521
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Speaker 1: silly in. Yeah, which it has to be. So Yeah,

522
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Speaker 1: we have our platforms that we've quite honestly worked really

523
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Speaker 1: hard to develop and protect and build. And I'm just

524
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Speaker 1: curious a lesson for women outside of Hollywood where we

525
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Speaker 1: have we can develop these platforms. We have that sort

526
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Speaker 1: of leg up in that area when we become you know,

527
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Speaker 1: household names or people are used to seeing us on TV.

528
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Speaker 1: What is the lesson for other women out there who

529
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Speaker 1: are trying to have that same sort of path towards

530
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Speaker 1: equality and change and having our voices heard. Like, what

531
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Speaker 1: would you tell a woman who doesn't already have a platform?

532
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Speaker 2: I would mean, yeah, do, I would say, And this

533
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Speaker 2: is always I've said this before, and it's a little

534
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Speaker 2: shocking when I say it. Everyone has a platform. Now.

535
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Speaker 2: The size of the platform may be different. Your your

536
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Speaker 2: platform may be Pta meetings. Platform may be frozen food

537
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Speaker 2: section at Ralph's right. Your platform may be you know,

538
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: two or three gathered in his name in the parking

539
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Speaker 2: lot of church. But everyone has some people around them

540
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Speaker 2: that are listening to what they have to say. Do

541
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Speaker 2: not devalue your platform, whatever it is. There's something in

542
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Speaker 2: the Bible that says despise not small beginnings, because the

543
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: bottom line is Everybody that's got fifty million followers started

544
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: with one. Everybody that's a household name started as an unknown. Right.

545
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 2: Even if you're an NEPO baby you start, they don't.

546
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Speaker 2: They don't they know Jennigarth. They don't know you until

547
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: they know you. Right. So the whole idea of it

548
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: is you use what you have and you make sure

549
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: what you're saying is of value so that as it

550
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: continues to grow more the right people are following you.

551
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm the proudest thing about my my followers

552
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: is that they're good people. I can tell in the

553
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: comments section when somebody found their way in and they

554
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Speaker 2: don't belong. We don't. We ain't cussing at each other.

555
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: Were not treating people bad. I will block someone if

556
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Speaker 2: they're rude to a common er. If you come in

557
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Speaker 2: my comment section and say something heyful to somebody in

558
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Speaker 2: the comment section, you out of there. It ain't gotta

559
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Speaker 2: be to me. We cultivate this and you do the

560
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: same thing as you're building your platform in real life

561
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: or where if you're just starting on social media, find

562
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Speaker 2: out what you're excited about, what matters to you, what

563
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Speaker 2: is true and important to you, and make sure you

564
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Speaker 2: tell people about it.

565
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Speaker 1: I mean that is just one way to build a business,

566
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Speaker 1: this absolute farm thing. But just even in life as

567
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: a human, find what it is that you're passionate about

568
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: and what you think can help other people. And that

569
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: should be the direction that you walk in, Uh, to

570
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: find that purpose in your life, yep, because a lot

571
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: of us don't know our purpose. Yeah.

572
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: And that's shocking to me too, because I think what

573
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: happens is that a lot of people think purpose is vocation. Yeah,

574
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 2: and that is not purpose or calling. Purpose or calling

575
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: is what you would do at what you do at

576
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: every job you have. My purpose in calling is celebrating others.

577
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: And I'm an encourager. I'm a cheerleader of people. That

578
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: is what I've always been. I was working at Toys

579
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: r US at Christmas time and I was telling people,

580
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: I like your ear rings. Oh you just look so

581
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: maybe you won't get that Almo for you baby. I

582
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: am encouraging. I'm celebrating people always. I can do that

583
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: as an office tip. I can do that on this podcast.

584
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: I can do that, you know, on a set. I

585
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: can do that on fries at McDonald's and have you

586
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: So the whole point is you not fries with mcdonald'sn't

587
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: say a memo, way's job. I've done it everything.

588
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I didn't do the fries.

589
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Speaker 2: I didn't do the frid Now I would, but I happened.

590
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: So the whole idea is you you figure out the

591
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: thing that makes you feel alive, and it always involves

592
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: other people. Your calling is never just for you. It's

593
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Speaker 2: not My call is to be the best baker. That's nice.

594
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: But where you put into bake goods? Are you gonna

595
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: teach people how to make the bake good? You're gonna

596
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: put out a cookbook to help people after you do

597
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: the bake good you're gonna sell to Bate Goods. You're

598
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: gonna give the bake goods away to the unhoused.

599
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: Are they going to be? Are they gonna be? Yeah?

600
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's not just I'm gonna be a good baker.

601
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: What are you going to do with it after? And

602
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: that's also vocation too, but it's calling is deeper. Calling

603
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: is is the thing that wakes you up in the morning,

604
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: the thing that you would do for free. Yeah, that's calling,

605
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: And for most people vocation you got to pay me.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a lot of jobs that you don't

607
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Speaker 1: feel inspired by, a lot of jobs that I feel

608
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Speaker 1: like job's and we all have we all know what

609
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: that is when we have to have a job to

610
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Speaker 1: pay those bills. But then there's room, I think in

611
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: everyone to find purpose in their jobs. Yep, somehow, and okay,

612
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: it'd be really hard sometimes or to find that purpose

613
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: and then find the job that aligns with.

614
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: It exactly, you know. And also it's important too, because

615
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: you spend most of your life, you know, at these

616
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: jobs you're doing eight ten hours a day and actors

617
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: we're doing twelve to sixteen hours a day. If you

618
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: don't like it, you're going to become a miserable person

619
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: in your health is going to suffer. So you gotta

620
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: do something that makes you happy, and it doesn't matter

621
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Speaker 2: what it is, and nobody else has to understand it.

622
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: My dad retired from a school system, a middle school

623
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Speaker 2: in Cleveland. He was the head custodian for thirty years.

624
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: He was a day engineer. Back in the day. You

625
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: had to know how to do boilers and stuff so

626
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: the schools didn't blow up. So he has an engineering degree,

627
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: but my dad was a custodian, a janitor his entire life,

628
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: and he was good at it. He treated that school

629
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Speaker 2: like it was a palace that he owned. He made

630
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: sure every teacher and every student got a hello, and

631
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: he made sure that their spaces were clean and tidy

632
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Speaker 2: and sanitized. He loved his job and was good at

633
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Speaker 2: his job. So it doesn't matter what you do, right,

634
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: do it unto God? Yeah? So it's you know, it

635
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: was an amazing job for him, and he was happy

636
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: he did it, and I was happy he did it.

637
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Speaker 2: You know, doesn't have to be a grand thing. No,

638
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: you make it grand by your attitude.

639
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Speaker 1: By yep, exactly what you put into it. Let's talk

640
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: about aging, okay, do it's talk about it. You do

641
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: it with such grace and peace. We are at the

642
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: same age.

643
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Speaker 2: I think you might be just I got you one year,

644
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Speaker 2: maybe I got you buy a year.

645
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Speaker 1: So what is it for you? Is it inner confidence?

646
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Speaker 1: Is it the humor that you have around it? Is

647
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it just pure peace and acceptance? You know?

648
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: It's I think it's what you gonna do, you know

649
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, there's only you. You. You gonna

650
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: keep living until you die, right, and if you keep

651
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: living and you live long enough, you're gonna get old

652
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: and what we're gonna do. I don't even want to

653
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: be you wanna be twenty again?

654
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't want no, no, no, I don't know. And

655
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean maybe for like you know, an afternoon, I

656
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: ain't mean, but I.

657
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Mean just not knowing who, what I'm doing? Who I was. Oh,

658
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: I was so confused at twenty So no I And

659
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: insofar as what happens to our bodies and you know,

660
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: our faces and whatever, I think it's kind of funny.

661
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: I think it's funny this dance that we're doing, trying

662
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: to trying to not be what we are. It's dumb,

663
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, don't get me.

664
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Seriously, like just never gonna work out. Your're going to

665
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: work in.

666
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: Your favor because even though and this is the thing,

667
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: you got a couple of choices, Okay, you're either going

668
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: to let it do whatever it's gonna do, and you're

669
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna lean into it and be that. And we know

670
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: some beautiful, amazing images who are letting it be what

671
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.

672
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: And I love what about when Jane Goodall there's a

673
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: lot of press around her death. She's always been one

674
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: of my favorites, and I just look at pictures of

675
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: her and I want to cuddle up in every nook

676
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: and cranny, every wrinkle.

677
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: It's like Helen Mirris, Helen Marres, Elamren, Helen Mirren is like,

678
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: this is what it is. I think Andy McDowell, I

679
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: think Harry Hatcher. They just like, I'm a beautiful woman

680
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: and I'm going to be a beautiful woman at every age.

681
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: And even if you don't consider yourself beautiful, I believe

682
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: every woman is beautiful. And I think you know what

683
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: a what is a wrinkle but a reminder of smiles.

684
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean at the most part. Sometimes it's frowning too,

685
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: But for the most if you have smile lines and

686
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: crows feet, that means you had a really wonderful life. Yeah.

687
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: The idea that you want to completely erase it, I

688
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: don't understand. Now this is me talking at fifty four.

689
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: Catch me at sixty four. I might be snitched. I

690
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not against it. I'm not against it,

691
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: But what.

692
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think who could be against anything for someone else?

693
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Like?

694
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that? Like you do you

695
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: do me? I'm do me? And this is the thing.

696
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: I just think you should be honest about it because

697
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: if you've done something that has you looking like springtime

698
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: and you are well into the winter, you're being very

699
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: rude gate keeping that information. Drop the name of the

700
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: doctor for those that want to also look like springtime.

701
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: You tell the people what you did.

702
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't see what you know. I've had it. I

703
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: got a little botox here because I get a little angry.

704
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: I get yeah, little thing and it's my mom has

705
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: it like I get.

706
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: A line like it looks like my whole forehead just

707
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: kind of sunk down on my non nose bridge. So

708
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: sometimes and I don't do it often, like maybe once

709
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: a year, I'll go. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not.

710
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: But I've made my peace with it because I also

711
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: am my actress and I want to be able to

712
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: lift my eyebrows and make faces all you do, you

713
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: can't do it.

714
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: You want to be able to express yourself.

715
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: I would love to. I would love my forehead to

716
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: tell what I'm thinking. You know, And but but again

717
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: that's a choice that I may make again, I may

718
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: never make again. I don't know. But your two choices

719
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: are regular what it is and snatch to the gods

720
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: or somewhere you know.

721
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: So you.

722
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to decide what they do. But I don't

723
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: have a problem with it, and thankfully my husband doesn't

724
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: have a problem with it. Like I think, the saddest

725
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: thing is when a woman is with someone that wants

726
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: them to have bigger boobs or bigger but and the

727
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: woman is making these decisions or because society says that's

728
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: your spo. I just don't. I don't do it for you,

729
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: whatever it is, do it for you, don't do it

730
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: for someone else, and just let let it be what

731
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.

732
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. I mean if you're built in a

733
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: brought up in a life where a lot of your

734
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: decisions are influenced by others, which I have definitely experienced.

735
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Oh were you when you started acting? Y?

736
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: Gosh, I think seventeen, Yeah.

737
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: We can, we can. I take a moment. I need

738
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: to take Beverly Hill's net or two.

739
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: What a moment?

740
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: Moment Like eighteen nineteen year old me is like, I'm

741
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: talking to Kelly. I am so it was so wonderful

742
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: to meet you. I love that you are the chick

743
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: I thought you were, you know when I met you

744
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: at your at your event, I was just like, oh,

745
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: she's lovely, Like I always just knew that you were

746
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: a lovely human being. So it's so great as an

747
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: adult to get to meet you and also to get

748
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: to tell you that you did great work on that show.

749
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: Thank you. You're just You're just wonderful. So I'm so

750
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: glad that we our friendship has grown and on here

751
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: with you. I do.

752
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I love calling you a friend. Okay, So what would

753
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: younger efat tell that at fifty four?

754
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: What would younger VET say?

755
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Yes, what would younger Vets say? And then what would

756
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: older VET.

757
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Say to younger to younger Evet if she saw how

758
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: we turned out? I think she would be so proud.

759
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: I think she would be like, man, you never sold out,

760
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: You never did anybody dirty, never did a casting couch.

761
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: I am I personally am very proud that I have

762
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: lived my life with integrity. And there is no one,

763
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: no honest person that can say I ever did any

764
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: harm to them intentionally in this business or in this world.

765
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: And if I have harmed someone by mistake, no one

766
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 2: apologizes faster. So I think Lily Vett, because she cared

767
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: about those things, would be so happy to realize that

768
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: a twenty five thirty year entertainment career did not change

769
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: who she was. Older Evet would say to young Evet,

770
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: it's okay.

771
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: That's tell all you need to say.

772
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: Yay girl, relaxed, breathe. You're gonna find them, You're gonna

773
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: have the career. You're gonna finally move to California. You know,

774
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna survive the loss of your mom. Like all

775
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: these things that are gonna come that you think are

776
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: gonna take you out, they're not gonna take you out.

777
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: You're gonna be okay. Just you know, And I would

778
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: probably tell her to enjoy the journey a little more.

779
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: I was so angsty. Oh everything was so important. I

780
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: mean I'm still that way. I'm still very angsty. And

781
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: it's a lot of weight on every I need everything

782
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: to be perfect, and I should know what this is

783
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: with this grown age, and it's never gonna be perfect.

784
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: It just has to be decent. That's to be.

785
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's be good, feel good.

786
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: It has to feel good to you and you have

787
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: to do no harm to others other than that. It's

788
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: gonna be what it's gonna be.

789
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: That's right. So last time we talked, I think we

790
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: touched a little bit on your h journey with type

791
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: two diabetes. So I want to know how you're doing. Now,

792
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: how's your health and what it is that you're doing.

793
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Looks so amazing because you look really healthy.

794
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: I am very happy. And also that helps. That helps

795
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: my type two diabetes. Now, this is the thing. I

796
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: want people to understand type two and forgive me. This

797
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: is going to sound harsh, but Type I always say

798
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: that my type two is something I gave myself. It's

799
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: not in my family. It wasn't Type one. This was

800
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: me and donuts. This is me and jugs of sweet

801
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: and lemonade and donuts and not a lot of exercise.

802
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: That's I did this to my body. And so when

803
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: it happened, my doctor had been on me for probably

804
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: three or four years. You vet your pre diabetic, your

805
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: pre ditabetic, you're pre diabetic. And I was like, okay,

806
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm so pre And then when I finally got it,

807
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: she didn't even call me. I mean, I mean she

808
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: didn't she didn't even wait to get me on the phone.

809
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: She left me a voicemail, well congratulations, you're finally diabetic.

810
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: And she was so upset with me, and I understood

811
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: her anger, but It also scared me straight because the

812
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: thing about diabetes in the black community, we call it sugar.

813
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: She got a little sugar, and we all know, for

814
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: the most part, most of us know someone that left

815
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: here missing a foot or a leg, you know, or

816
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: two legs like and so it's almost a joke in

817
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: the black community a lot of times, at least in

818
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: my family. I'll say, may not put it all on

819
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: black people, but in my family it was a joke like, oh, well,

820
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: you got a little touch of sugar. No, that's not cute,

821
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: and you shouldn't leave here without the body parts you

822
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: came with if you can help it. And so it

823
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: became team keep my feet. As I was feeling tingling

824
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: girls feet.

825
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Tingling, I said, hey, tell me, why is that tingling

826
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: and the feet and possible amputation? Why is that diabetes?

827
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: It's neuropathy, Like your your the blood flow to your

828
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: extremity starts to be affected by the sugar. The sugar

829
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: destroys your blood vessels. It really destroys your body like

830
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: it could hurt. It affects your heart. Diabetes is a

831
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: horrible disease, and that's why to think of it as

832
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: a joke is dumb.

833
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

834
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Right. So when you start feeling the tingling in your fingers,

835
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: in your hands when you're diabetic, it's a sign that

836
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: nerves are are affected or they're dying. And once they die,

837
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, you stub your toe or you get a

838
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: you step on a nail and you can't feel it

839
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: in your foot. Now you got a toe. This turned

840
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: into gang green. It got to cut the toe off.

841
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: It's all of those things. You have wounds that don't

842
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: heal because of the circulation. It's a lot of stuff.

843
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, sugar is like what the most I don't understand.

844
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: It's like legal, but it's like the most post powerful drug.

845
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: You know, take you out and it's so hard to

846
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: get off of it.

847
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Yet it's in everything.

848
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: It's in everything, and that high fruit toe so to

849
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: take us out, and that's an American thing.

850
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: You know.

851
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: You go to Ireland or other countries and you eat

852
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: their food. There's no preservatives, there's no red dye, there's

853
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: no high fruit close corn serve. The portion sizes are small.

854
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: It's just a different, different world. But this is the

855
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: thing that I learned because I'm a researcher. As soon

856
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: as something comes my way, or I want to do

857
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 2: something new, I'm immediately at Barnes and Noble, buying every

858
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: book I can find and highlighting and dog gearing everything.

859
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: So I became a student of diabetes and health. And

860
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: the thing that I learned that changed my life is

861
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: all have to lose is seven to ten percent of

862
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: your body weight, and it automatically tells your pancreas get

863
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: back into game right and your insulin production gets better.

864
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't cure diabetes, but it does help you get

865
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: towards the lane of being in remission. And that's what

866
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: I say. My numbers are normal. When I wake up

867
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: in the morning, I check my numbers, I'm eighty two ninety.

868
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: After I eat, I'm like one hundred and twenty. So

869
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: I am in a really great place. And all I

870
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: had to do was put the doughnuts down, exercise more,

871
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: and you know, just move my body more. And it's

872
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: not hard to do those things.

873
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: But some people think it's so hard that they continue

874
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: to not do it day after day after day. And

875
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: what I get into that sometimes and what is that

876
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: that is inside of me and other people that is like,

877
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: let's push that off to another day.

878
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: I think the problem with exercise is the dopamine rush

879
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: comes later. Like if you could get hit it a

880
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: dopamine before you walk into the gym, we'd be great.

881
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: But it's that feeling of accomplishment after that is wonderful.

882
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: And I got to thank you because then you you

883
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: you hit me, hook me up with your trainer, and

884
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: I tell you I have been dodging him. He has

885
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: reached out, just like I'm writing in line with what

886
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: you're saying. He has been reaching out. Bless his heart,

887
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: He's reached out like three day. He's like, you've so

888
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: he just reached out last week. And I need to

889
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: call him because I really do want to get a

890
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: regiment like I walk my dog and you know, a

891
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: couple of side bins in the house, but I want

892
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: to actually know that I'm getting up Monday, Wednesday and Friday,

893
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: ye going somewhere, and if it's Pilate's taichi waits, I'm

894
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: doing something because as we get older, we have to

895
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: build muscle.

896
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: We have to I mean, I'm on the thing right

897
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: now where my schedule got just too intense. I've been

898
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: traveling a lot every month, so many commitments every single

899
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: day on my calendar and I had to stop working

900
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: out with my trainer. I chose to stop working out

901
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: with my trainer because I needed more rest. I felt

902
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: like I can't take one more thing on, and so

903
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: thiss what happens? You take off the one thing that

904
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: actually matters the most to your well being.

905
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: Giving your energy, and then I'm going to go back.

906
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: I've got to go back. But I am in the

907
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: place where I'm like, I don't have time. Still don't

908
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: have time.

909
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: Do you guys go somewhere and work out? Does he

910
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: have a space? I haven't even gotten that far in

911
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: a conversation. Think he has a space.

912
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: I stopped working out with him, and he but he

913
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: has a great gym. And I miss going to the gym.

914
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: And the thing about working out that I do know

915
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: from doing it and then not doing it, and then

916
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: doing it and then not doing it all my life

917
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: is that that dopamine that you're that you're talking about,

918
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: is that what keeps you coming back? But after you

919
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: keep coming back, my dopamine would start leveling up on

920
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: the way to the gym.

921
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh, she would get you would get excited.

922
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: My body would start getting its natural like, who here

923
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: we go with this? I know what's gonna happened now.

924
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: Never been there, never been consistent enough to get that.

925
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: But I but I look forward to it and I

926
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: do want, you know. And my husband likes to work out.

927
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't do it because of me, because I'm a slug.

928
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't do it as much as he. I think

929
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: if we find a really great gym and we could

930
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: go together, I think it'd be really really great. So

931
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: I need to do that.

932
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I need to figure what else, what's

933
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: next for me in that world. But it's it's one

934
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: of those weird things where I'm not alone because we're

935
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: all justify it, dodge it.

936
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: As long as I'm on the bottom of the you

937
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: are never.

938
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: At I just want, you know, I'm tired and at

939
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I want to lay down

940
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get up a five am.

941
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I know a girl, gosh, someone I did an interview

942
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: recently said she gets up at five a m. Every

943
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: day to work out, and I thought I was like

944
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: breaking the you know, history by getting up and at

945
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: six am to get to the gym by seven. She

946
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: gets up at five works out at six. But that's

947
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not Yeah, me.

948
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Let me not say I can't, because I'm I can

949
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: say you can do it, you can do anything, but

950
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 2: I do. I think, you know, maybe that's my last

951
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 2: act in life, is I actually get in the best

952
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: physical shape of my life, Like that would be funny

953
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: if I was able to do that at seventy. Are

954
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: some people that start like they can do it? They

955
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: do it?

956
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did it ramping up to fifty,

957
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: got an amazing shape, felt amazing.

958
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: Then you know you're still I mean, I know you

959
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 2: were at the peak, but you're still.

960
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: Kind of keep it going. Yeah, I mean, what are

961
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: you doing right now that in your life? That are

962
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the little ways that you're eating well, eating consistently, probably

963
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: for your blood sugar.

964
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else am I doing again?

965
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: In it for anything? For your skin, for your just

966
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: your mental health, like for because it's all connected.

967
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: It is. And I wish that I could say that

968
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: I was better at self care, because I'm really not.

969
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

970
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: I the thing that's keeping me fed well is my

971
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: husband because he's a great, great cook and really like it,

972
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: alacky great cook, so he enjoys cooking all the meals. So,

973
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I know I'm crazy. I know, it's crazy.

974
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: So along with my tea every morning I get some.

975
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: You know, this morning we had we had grits with

976
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: plant based sausages and like a pepper relish on top

977
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: of the sausage like that. That was my breakfast. Come on,

978
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: he's not playing, Tony, ain't planting.

979
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm half of a faux nut for breakfast.

980
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: Well that was me for so many years, so many

981
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: years because I didn't take I just didn't take good

982
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: care of myself. So the food is is that I'm

983
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: also going to the doctor more often now because I

984
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: have more of a reason to stay healthy and you

985
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: know alive. I'm living for other, for another person now,

986
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: not just for myself. Right. I was like that when

987
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I was just care for my dad. But it's just

988
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: different when it's your spouse. You just really want to

989
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: be healthy for them and have a good life with them.

990
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: So that's part of it. As far as mental health,

991
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 2: I really think I need to put the social apps down.

992
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: And it's been really hard, Like it's the first thing

993
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: I pick up in the morning, the last my phone

994
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: is the last thing I touched before I go to bed.

995
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: And then if it's not that, it's watching YouTube and

996
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: just my brain is full of gunk and I need

997
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: to fill it. I need to read more, like I miss.

998
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: I used to read novels back to back, like I

999
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: need to get back to reading. And I wonder if

1000
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: it's when I started wearing readers at my reading I

1001
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: didn't read as much because I couldn't see and I

1002
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: couldn't find the right number for the readers, and you can't.

1003
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of work to read now.

1004
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: And it's just also a lot of work to like

1005
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: let yourself go there, like let yourself turn all the

1006
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: other things out and just read.

1007
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: Because there's always something to do. And our email box

1008
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: is always overrun, our text are overrun. Do you remember

1009
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 2: back in the day when you could leave your house

1010
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: and no one could call your body, Like while you

1011
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: were away from your home, you were in the world,

1012
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: and if you had to call somebody, you had to

1013
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: go find somebody with a phone in the business or

1014
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: a payphone. But otherwise you had a great day just

1015
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: out in the world, not living, living, not being at

1016
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: anybody's back and call. I don't I'm literally in my

1017
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: car at red lights, just checking and make sure I

1018
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: didn't miss something.

1019
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: That what has happened to us?

1020
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: What has happened to us that we can't be away?

1021
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: Like even just being on this talking to you for

1022
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: I Choose Me podcasts. We've been on for about forty

1023
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: five minutes now, right, and I'm like, oh God, emails

1024
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: are probably emails or what did I What did they

1025
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: do in Washington that I missed out on that I'm

1026
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: going to have to fight against in an hour and

1027
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: I can't. I have to figure out how to just

1028
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: be in this moment with you, in this soon, on

1029
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: this podcast and let everything else just kind of fall away.

1030
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: And I miss I miss that. So mental health is

1031
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 2: reading more, putting the phone down, getting to spend time

1032
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: with people. I had lunch yesterday this weekend with one

1033
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: of my friends from my early twenties that when I

1034
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: first started out. We did a touring play together when

1035
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: we were like twenty six twenty seven years old, and

1036
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: I haven't seen her since my wedding, so it's been

1037
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: almost a year since i've seen her. I didn't know

1038
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: what was happening in her life, she didn't know what

1039
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: was happening in mine, aside from what we saw on

1040
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: social media. I was so happy to sit with Demika

1041
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: and go out to your mama. You know, who are

1042
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: you dating? You know? Oh, I like in Little Purse

1043
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: where you get that like we got to have a

1044
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: real sister friend catch up in person, and I want

1045
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: to do more of that. And that's a mental health

1046
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: adjustment and infusion of joy as well.

1047
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's really hard to maintain all the things. Yeah,

1048
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: the health, the fitness, health, the healthcare, the mental health,

1049
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: the relationship, the relationships, the marriage, the dad's friends, the jobs,

1050
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: the dog. It's a lot, it is. We're spreads then,

1051
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: we really are.

1052
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: And you know, there's there's a statement that says, you know,

1053
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: women live longer when they're single, men live longer when

1054
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: they're married. And that's because of the amount of caregiving

1055
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: that we give as women in general, whether it's your dad,

1056
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: your kids, your husband, your friends. Women just roll our

1057
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: sleeves up and what do you need? And we put

1058
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: ourselves last. That's like the biggest mistake that we make.

1059
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: And we see and I think I can speak for

1060
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: all of us when I say a lot of us,

1061
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: most of us see self care and selfishness. Well, who

1062
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: am I to go have a massage? I can't go

1063
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: away and do a spot day.

1064
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Somebody needs me, somebody needs you, You need you, you

1065
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: need you know it for you.

1066
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Take yourself out for a nice you know, lunch, or

1067
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: go see a movie, get your nails done, go sit

1068
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: on the beach and watch the waves come in. We

1069
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: have to do things for ourselves so we still feel

1070
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: alive and and and you know, still put your own

1071
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: oxygen mask on first. I'm I need to put my

1072
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: oxygen mask on. A lot of women need to do that,

1073
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: you know.

1074
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: And when you put it on, you're probably going to

1075
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: take it off at some point.

1076
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: At some point we get to get a couple of goods,

1077
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: gotta get it back a couple offs and before you

1078
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: take it off, then.

1079
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Speaker 1: Put it back on. But it's okay to give yourself

1080
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: a break, everybody. Because there's so much talk about taking

1081
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: care of ourselves better and all the lists of things

1082
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: now that we can do to take care of ourselves,

1083
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: and that has got me stressed out.

1084
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: Like you got to figure out which which resort am

1085
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: I going to? What massage? Am I getting what nail

1086
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: color am I picking? I gotta drives It all becomes

1087
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: work after a while. Like for me, the biggest self

1088
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: care is just not getting out of bed some days. Yep,

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00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: today and and I'm going to realize that it's not

1090
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: selfish to just lay here because if your body needs it,

1091
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: give give the body what.

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00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: It needs, you know, listen to your body. I think

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00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: that's the core of every relationship, whether it's your relationship

1094
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: with yourself, is the listening to your body to what

1095
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: you need. Len your relationship with your loved ones is

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00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: actually listening, sitting and being present and listening to where

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00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: they are, because that's how you connect with them. That's

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00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: how you the level that is beneficial anyway, all true,

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00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: All true? Well, give us some just a little advice

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00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: on how to have healthy and genuine female relationships, sisterhood

1101
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: and all of those wonderful things like if you're if

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00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: you don't have that in your life right now, you.

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00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Know, I think I have this thing where you know,

1104
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: everyone will decide a friendship is over because the person

1105
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: hasn't done what they want them to do. They're not

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00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: the kind of friend that they need. I've n did

1107
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: friendships because I'm not the kind of friend they need.

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00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Right So it's important as you as you move through

1109
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: life and build friendships and all those things that you

1110
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: show up authentically and lovingly. If you have any friendships

1111
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: or people in your life that you don't love like

1112
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: that or you don't care about like that, it's better

1113
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: to end the friendship for them now. In so far

1114
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: as finding your group of people, the only way you

1115
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: can find your group is by being fully yourself, unapologetically.

1116
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: I am very nerdy. I enjoy binge, watching shows like

1117
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: The Walk and Dead and ted Lasso and Abbot Elementary,

1118
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: and I love building Lego and you know I love

1119
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: seventies and eighties R and B and sitcoms from the eighties.

1120
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: This is who I am. If I hide any of

1121
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: those things about myself, the Mothership can't call me home.

1122
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: So I'm very clear and honest about all those things

1123
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not ashamed of still of building a

1124
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: Barbie dreamhouse reatsimly with my old ass. I'm not ashamed

1125
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: of collecting barbiees and Star Wars memorabilia. I'm not ashamed

1126
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: of loving Sesame Street all in the Muppets. All of

1127
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: these things make me. And because I let my freak

1128
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: flag fly in a thousand different ways, the other people

1129
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: that like the things I like are like, oh, I

1130
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: like Janet Jackson, let's go to a concert or oh

1131
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: I love them muppet. You know Jim Henson's company is

1132
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: doing something here you want to go and next thing

1133
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, you're hanging out with people that you like,

1134
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: doing things that you like. And also, once you get them,

1135
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: be a good friend. Don't talk about nobody behind their back,

1136
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: don't steal nobody's man, don't gossip to the point of

1137
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: tearing people down. Be a decent human being, and build

1138
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: a lovely friendship life with like minded kind people.

1139
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: Not so good, Yeah, we all need that that Nicole Brown.

1140
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I want to ask you

1141
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: one last question. What was your last I choose me moment?

1142
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: Ooh, you know, it probably was this podcast actually because

1143
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: one in saying yes to it, I was choosing me

1144
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 2: because I just loved me. Using Jenni Garth, I wanted

1145
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: to have this conversation. But the other part of it

1146
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: is I knew that it was better for me to

1147
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: do it virtually than to come to your beautiful home.

1148
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: And even though we had planned for me to get

1149
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: up and come to you today, yesterday I asked my

1150
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: assistant if she could reach out to your people and

1151
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: see if we could do it virtually instead, and you

1152
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: were like, absolutely, which is the greatest gift you gave me.

1153
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: But it was me choosing me to know that if

1154
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: I had to go to you, I had to get

1155
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: up two hours earlier, I had to drive, I had

1156
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 2: to make sure that I had clothes on from the

1157
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: waist down and not just ropped down the pants. There

1158
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: were a lot of things that went into it, and I, hey,

1159
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: look at this. They matched, but their pajamas mine don't

1160
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: even match. So it's like, I chose that. And look now,

1161
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: in choosing me, I chose I chose you a better

1162
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: morning for you, so you didn't have to make the

1163
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: house into something you didn't tuckle down. Yeah, it's a

1164
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: beautiful thing. And so that's the lesson we learned. When

1165
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: we choose ourselves and we don't do it selfishly, yeah,

1166
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: or even if we do sometimes it's all right, sometimes

1167
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: it's okay. But when we choose ourselves, which is really

1168
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: choosing the greater good for ourselves, then it encourages and

1169
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: it invites other people to do the same.

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00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: That's right, that's good. I think it's so important. Well,

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00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being everybody has to be

1172
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Speaker 1: sure to check out the second season of Squeeze Squeezed,

1173
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: your podcasts, Yes, and check out your movie November twenty second. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Annie,