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Speaker 1: Don't listening. No Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, the real loser. We'll tell you who the

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Speaker 2: real loser was. That's coming right up.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, everybody, Good morning. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 3: at Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And

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Speaker 3: here we go, and my guy, you know what, really

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Speaker 3: and truly he needs no introduction. If you know the

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Speaker 3: NFL backwards and forwards, he's the man. He's a teacher,

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Speaker 3: he's an instructor, he's a scout, he's a writer, he's

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Speaker 3: a TV star, and he's my partner right here.

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Speaker 2: He's the man, Bucky Brooks. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good Andy. What's going on? How you doing well?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you something. Everybody's talking about Game six

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Speaker 3: last night in the NBA. Everybody knows the Knicks loss.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of pulling for the Knicks. I did

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Speaker 3: some work for them while I was in college. I

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Speaker 3: looked with a kind of an intern there with the

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Speaker 3: PR guys over there, so I kind of was rooting

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Speaker 3: for them, and everybody knew the Paces were gonna win.

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Speaker 3: I guess because it was an Indy one twenty five

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Speaker 3: one aweight. But the real loser, I mean, we got

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Speaker 3: to pull the curtain back. You know who the real

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Speaker 3: loser was that game? You know, me and every fan.

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Speaker 2: You know why?

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Speaker 3: Because there is gonna be no more inside the NBA

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Speaker 3: on TNT. That's what people need to be talking about.

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Speaker 3: The hell with the Knicks, the hell with the Pacers,

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Speaker 3: and we move on to Oklahoma City and Indianapolis. Really

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Speaker 3: no one cares. No one cares, you know what they

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Speaker 3: care about. No more Shack, no more Ernie, no more Charles, Okay,

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Speaker 3: no more Kenny the Jet on TNT. They're moving and

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Speaker 3: that's bad because they did more for the NBA than

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Speaker 3: really and truly than Pascal Siakam did last night. Who

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Speaker 3: won the Lowry Bird Trophy is the MVP. They did

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Speaker 3: more for the NBA and you know it and I

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Speaker 3: know it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah No, I mean, look, it's the end of an error.

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Speaker 4: Thing about that show and watching them sign off for

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Speaker 4: the final time.

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Speaker 2: Quick, Ernie, Ernie started to cry.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just think about it. I mean, Charles Barkley

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Speaker 4: been there for twenty five years. The amount of longevity

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Speaker 4: and loyalty and tie in that that show that look

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Speaker 4: everything on that network had had from inside the NBA

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Speaker 4: to NBA on TNT, all of those things really really mattered.

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Speaker 4: And I think for me as an aspiring broadcaster looking

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Speaker 4: at that show, you saw guys who were able to

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Speaker 4: present analysis by being themselves. So Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley

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Speaker 4: being outlandish and bombastic and being very opinionated but voicing

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Speaker 4: those opinions, Shack being.

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Speaker 1: Shack, all of it kind of work together.

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Speaker 4: And then if you're someone who is really studying the craft,

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Speaker 4: you think about Ernie Johnson being able to work off

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Speaker 4: the unscripted, as he talked about in his book, just

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Speaker 4: being able to kind of handle and manage all of

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Speaker 4: those personalities, and the show was Look, it's the standard.

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Speaker 4: I mean you think every year Sports Emmys, the number

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Speaker 4: of Sports Emmys that that show has won tells you that, Look,

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Speaker 4: it was the number one show when it came to

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Speaker 4: covering sports in the league, and it will continue to

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Speaker 4: be even though it changes networks.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's sad because.

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Speaker 4: Not the front people of the talent that we see,

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Speaker 4: they won't be affected by it, but all of the

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Speaker 4: people behind the scenes that made this your click.

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Speaker 1: So many of them will be affected by the show moving.

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Speaker 3: You know what, you make a great point because a

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Speaker 3: lot of times you talk about the conversations that they

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Speaker 3: have with Shaq and Charles whatever it may be, and

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Speaker 3: next thing you know, you see a tweet punting up

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Speaker 3: on the screen. And these guys that produce as directors,

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Speaker 3: they do a heck of a job there. So you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not like they're going away forever and ever. They're

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Speaker 3: moving over to and I want to mention it, I'll

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Speaker 3: call it the four letter Network. They're going over there,

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Speaker 3: which tells me it's going to be a different animal.

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Speaker 3: Why do I say that because I promise you, I

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Speaker 3: promise you. Steve and A is going to be walking

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Speaker 3: into the set. They're going to be grounded. They'll be

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Speaker 3: told what to say, what not to say. And honestly,

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Speaker 3: when you're on TNT, you're on an island. There's nothing else.

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Speaker 3: What does TNT have. Every once in a while, they'll

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Speaker 3: have like a golf event, that's basically it. They don't

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Speaker 3: everybody on ESPN. They got to be careful of the

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Speaker 3: properties that they own. They can't take a poke at somebody,

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Speaker 3: be a different situation. I promise you that. And it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be the same. You know, it was the highlight,

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Speaker 3: it was the centerpiece of TNT. It's gonna be just

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Speaker 3: another show on ESPN, that's all it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, look, I'm hoping that because they've retained some

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Speaker 4: of their independent status that will still be produced out

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Speaker 4: just licensed licensing out the show that I'm hoping that

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Speaker 4: it retains most of its original flavor and what made

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Speaker 4: cross of NBA's talent, I mean ESPN's talent coming over.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully it ran the same, but it won't. It

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Speaker 4: won't be exactly as it was. It won't be as

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Speaker 4: loose as it was. I just can't imagine that it

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Speaker 4: would continue to do so. But I will say this,

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Speaker 4: We've seen ESPN have those agreements licensing agreement with Pat

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Speaker 4: McAfee and McAfee show is relatively the same. It's the

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Speaker 4: same kind of debauchery and stuff that those who fall

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Speaker 4: in love with the show like to see before he became,

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Speaker 4: as they say, corporate, And I would think that the

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Speaker 1: So hopefully it doesn't change much.

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Speaker 4: But it is sad to see the NBA leave TNT

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Speaker 4: because it was such a a great beacon for the

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Speaker 4: for the NBA, Like the NBA grew as that networking

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to talk to the genius to

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Speaker 3: let that show go their genius at TNT. That will

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Speaker 3: be almost as stupid as like letting you and I go.

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Speaker 3: Think about that. I mean, really and truly when you

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Speaker 3: think about it, really, I want to hear and see

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Speaker 3: the genius at TNT. You say, it's okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: How could you do?

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, you know what, But that's life,

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Speaker 3: you know, That's what makes the ball go around, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But this guy right now must be looking at the

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Speaker 3: I do this? But that's another story. Right, So we

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Speaker 3: talked about the game last night. Okay, I'm watching I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of find. But I did follow the Knicks last night.

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Speaker 3: all right, And I tell you why. Another way, these

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Speaker 3: guys pick MVPs. The guy who scores the most points

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Speaker 3: is the MVP. Right So Siakabad thirty one to give

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Speaker 3: the mv he didn't deserve the MVP. Andrew Nembart deserved

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Speaker 3: the MVP. This guy put the clamps. Put the clamps

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Speaker 3: on Jalen Brunston last night. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: if Brunton's waking up right now, Nemhart's right behind him

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Speaker 3: as a shadow. I mean, that's how close he was.

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Speaker 3: I know Brunton finished with nineteen, but he had a

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Speaker 3: work he had to work for. I have never seen

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Speaker 3: a teams play defense for forty eight minutes eighty four.

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Speaker 2: Feet on the court like the Pacers did last night.

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Speaker 3: I give them a lot of credit, but the guy

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Speaker 3: mean what he six turnovers, they turned them around and

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Speaker 2: He was the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't go with you on that. He was

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Speaker 1: the MVP. I mean, he had a really good game.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 4: He did some really good things in terms of playing defense.

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Speaker 4: And what the Pacers do is certainly unique. They pick

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Speaker 4: one of the things that people will not give Rick

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Speaker 1: In the NBA. Well I'm looking up here and the

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Speaker 4: That papers Pacers press four court the entire time. And

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Speaker 4: it's not even just to create turnovers, but it's to

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Speaker 4: that's enjoyable with the more ragged the game, the better

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Speaker 4: And he saw like they had a lull and Indiana

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. And I gotta believe that Karl

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Speaker 3: Anthony Towns was somewhat hurt. But I tell you what,

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Speaker 3: I believe that he hurts the Knicks defensively. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't enjoy watching Towns take thirty footage from outside.

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Speaker 3: That's you know, we talked about that before. You know,

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Speaker 2: But I think always defense, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He's always he's always banged up. It's always something. So

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Speaker 4: it's one of those things. He heard them. He does

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Speaker 4: hurt them. In terms of being a big that doesn't

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Speaker 4: He wants to shoot threes. In those things where the

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Speaker 4: games in which the Knicks won, he was committed to

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Speaker 4: going to the paint and punishing the little guys that

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Speaker 4: But some of that also was I would say the

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Speaker 4: exceptional ball pressure that Indiana put on the ball handlers

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Speaker 4: for the next I mean they had the next playing

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Speaker 1: It's hard for them to get buckets.

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Speaker 4: It becomes the Jalen Brunson show late in games because

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Speaker 4: the rest of their players tent are unable to get

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Speaker 3: They do, and I think the team aspect is more affordable.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, I think that's the way to go.

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Speaker 3: There's no superstars. Lebron's gone, Steph has gone, Giannis has gone.

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Speaker 2: You were right.

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Speaker 3: I mean I said maybe the NBA and the executives

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Speaker 3: want to see Halliburn. They want to see him, They

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Speaker 2: Period. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And now I'll say this, Halliburton has become a star.

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Speaker 4: The other thing about the Pace is the Pacers have

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's up and down. You see them.

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Speaker 3: Right, and you got the MVP of the league SGA's

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Speaker 3: you mentioned it's gonna be probably going against Halliburton one

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm looking forward to it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: But again, you know, the longer the NBA playoffs go,

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Speaker 3: They've lost Christmas Day. I don't know how they're going

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Speaker 2: It was all over. I mean, the whole thing was over.

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Speaker 3: The fans and basically people don't have that attention span

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. But people just don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the time to sit through seven games again.

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 3: Look, we go to get glasses, they say glasses done

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Speaker 4: Well, they're stretched out because they're trying to get into

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Speaker 4: That's why they made a concerned effort to make sure

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Speaker 4: And let's be honest, my mind is not quite wrapped

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Speaker 1: But I'll get there eventually, as I always get there.

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Speaker 4: But I'm more of a baseball consumer from July through

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Speaker 3: You know how I knew the Knicks were going to

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Speaker 3: I believe in everything. I carry a horseshoe around. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. But can you believe that the

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Speaker 2: We'll see, you know.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm saying the league is basically the stories

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Speaker 4: And she can't rush back despite one to be there

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Speaker 4: the point guard, at the number of assists, the little

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Speaker 4: things that she does to up everybody else elevate their games.

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Speaker 4: That's where we're having an opportunity to see with the

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Speaker 4: Fever and ask Stephanie White, is transitioning this team like

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Speaker 4: getting used to playing without their star It only will

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Speaker 4: there could be a game in the playoffs where and

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Speaker 2: Right there you go. I to tell you what I'm

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Speaker 2: happy now.

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Speaker 3: I want to congratulate the Indiana Paces because I'm so

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Speaker 2: I promise you. All right, So, Brian Shapiro, how are you?

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Speaker 2: That's great? We love you, we love the paces. We

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Speaker 3: All right, if you ever ate at Shapiro's I'd love

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna help us with ask Bucky today?

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Speaker 6: Hmmm?

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Speaker 3: All right, moving along right now. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we talk about more lately, the

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Speaker 3: WNBA or Aaron Rodgers. Okay, because this Aaron Rodgers saga

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Speaker 3: continues or does it?

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Speaker 2: Is it over? Bucky Brooks?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is the Aaron Rodgers thing over? Is it continuing? What's

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Speaker 3: happening with this clown?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't know if anyone knows.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a great assumption that he's going to

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Speaker 4: end up with the Pittsburgh Steelers, But the more the

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Speaker 4: clock ticks, the more you wonder if he really is

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Speaker 4: going to play there. At some point, you want to

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Speaker 4: give your team an opportunity to adjust and adapt to

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Speaker 4: the new franchise quarterback coming in. And here we are

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Speaker 4: in June waiting for Aaron Rodgers to make a decision

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Speaker 4: on where he's gonna play and where he's going to

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Speaker 4: play just makes it very, very hard to operate. I

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Speaker 4: understand that he's dealt with some personal things, some family

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Speaker 4: deals this offseason in terms of family challenges in those things.

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Speaker 1: But I mean in the.

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Speaker 4: National Football League, like players play, and so he has

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Speaker 4: to make a decisions quickly if he's going to play,

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Speaker 4: because they have wasted a lot of the offseason program

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Speaker 4: not knowing who their QB one is going to be.

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Speaker 4: So it certainly doesn't do the Pittsburgh Steelers any favors.

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Speaker 3: Well, he claims that, and what I've written reports of

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Speaker 3: it I've read is Stellers hope he signs with them. Okay,

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Speaker 3: why the question is he worth it? I mean, and

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Speaker 3: what happens now to the remainder of the roster, because

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the roster right now going to the OTAs

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Speaker 3: they're split. They're talking about it in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to get him? Are we not going

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Speaker 3: to get him? There are some I'm sure that want him,

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Speaker 3: some don't want him. And what does it do for

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Speaker 3: a guy like Mason Rudolph who really wants a shot.

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Speaker 3: He was there before, he was in Tennessee. Now he's

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Speaker 3: back in Pittsburgh. I mean, does he look forward to

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Speaker 3: his Rogers coming because that's going to push him down

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Speaker 3: the depth chart even more so. This whole thing is

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Speaker 3: like a domino effect. It's not just as Stealers and

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. There's like fifty three other guys involved here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a team thing.

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Speaker 4: And then somewhere inside, like within the brain trust, you

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Speaker 4: got to have a loose deadline for like, hey, we

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Speaker 4: will participate in this thing until this point, and then

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Speaker 4: after that we got to be out. We need to

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Speaker 4: figure out who our guys are going to be. For

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Speaker 4: Mike Domlin and managing the team, you manage the team

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Speaker 4: the same way you were managing with or without Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers to start building and focusing on three things at

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Speaker 4: this time of year. Look, it's gonna be the fitness

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Speaker 4: to fundamentals and eventually building a family within their group.

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Speaker 4: Those things things can still exist with what without Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers being in the fold. So it's just important that

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Speaker 4: they are on it in terms of that and that

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Speaker 4: they get it kind of get it right.

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Speaker 2: Is it worth it? Though?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, couldn't the Stealers just say tomorrow

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Speaker 3: you know what? You know, training camps right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: You know, we don't want you because it's just too

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Speaker 3: late and there's too many things in play.

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Speaker 2: Right now. Sorry, you should have made the decision earlier.

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Speaker 3: Or they've got to believe that maybe he's that much

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Speaker 3: of an important cog to their team at the age

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Speaker 3: of forty years old.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that the case, you know?

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Speaker 1: When I think about it, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't he's certainly he's not the same as

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Speaker 4: he once was, and the last year has some change.

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Speaker 4: Of watching him with the Jets, you can see the

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Speaker 4: client and rapidly. I understand the appeal for Pittsburgh because

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Speaker 4: you want the veteran, the four time MVP to come

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Speaker 4: and save you, stabilize the situation. But I don't know

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Speaker 4: if you can play, and I don't know how much

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Speaker 4: different he would be than Russell Wilson. Granted they got

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Speaker 4: to the playoffs with Russell Wilson primarily operating as a starter,

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Speaker 4: but I think they're one and the same at this

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Speaker 4: stage of their career. He'll give them the experience, the pedigree,

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Speaker 4: and some of the cachet they want.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he can give them the game

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Speaker 1: to elevate them to the next level.

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Speaker 3: I read a quote the other day from Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: and I'm trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could help me.

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Speaker 3: He's just quote, I don't think this from Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was fair to the Steelers or

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Speaker 3: anyone to make a decision while I'm dealing with a

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Speaker 3: lot off the field. What do you mean it's not

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Speaker 3: fair to the stealer? Yeah, you know, you're holding up

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Speaker 3: an NFL franchise on moving forward with their future.

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Speaker 2: It's not fair for them to make a decision. Who

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Speaker 2: the hell do you think you are? I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: the statement is.

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Speaker 4: That, well, I think he's saying it's not fair to

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Speaker 4: him to give the Steelers decision if he really doesn't

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Speaker 4: know if he can get all the way back in

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Speaker 4: the circle, meaning that he's willing to do all the

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Speaker 4: stuff that's necessary to be a top quarterback in this league,

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Speaker 4: and if he doesn't know because he is distracted by

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Speaker 4: some family situations. In those things, it's admirable that he

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Speaker 4: didn't sign with the Steelers, didn't stay away. However, he

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Speaker 4: has to understand that if the Steelers finally come to

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Speaker 4: them say man, we moved on, we wish you well,

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Speaker 4: he can't be mad at them because he held up

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Speaker 4: their process significantly with his indecisiveness when it came to,

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Speaker 4: wanted to play, and where they wanted to play in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Pittsburgh Steelers begin their mandatory mini camp a

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Speaker 3: week from Tuesday, which is June tenth.

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Speaker 2: If he's not there by, then what do you do?

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Speaker 2: Do you move on?

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Speaker 3: Because I think Art Rooney the Second, who was the

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Speaker 3: president of the Steelers, he's the guy more than anyone

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Speaker 3: else who wants them. I'm not so sure Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 3: wants him. Well, I haven't heard already any thing about

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin yay or nay on Aaron Rodgers. It's all

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Speaker 3: about Art Rooney the Second.

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Speaker 4: Well, because I think Mike Tomlins is in the position

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Speaker 4: that he has to kind of take a neutral stance

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Speaker 4: on it, because he wants to be able to stand

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Speaker 4: in front of the team and say, hey, if Mason

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Speaker 4: Rudolph as a quarterback, we can win with Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 4: We were three and zero with him the last time

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Speaker 4: he was the starting quarterback here that was twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: He led us into the postseason. We can rock with him.

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Speaker 4: So he doesn't want to get caught up into looking

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Speaker 4: like and Aaron Rodgers apologists in front of his team

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Speaker 4: because if Aaron Rodgers doesn't show up when he says

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Speaker 4: something favorable for Mason Rudolph, he's now lost his credibility

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Speaker 4: because he was all the on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I remember mentioning this to you way back when, and

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Speaker 3: I remember when Mason Rudolph was playing for Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 3: I love the guy, and you even said that you

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Speaker 3: liked him PLU too. So this is one of the

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Speaker 3: things that we agreed on. I would like to see

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers not signed and give the reins to Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: I think he could get the job. I really do.

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Speaker 3: I think Mason Rudolph, given time and knowing the job

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Speaker 3: is his, I think that he could be successful at least.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's one of those franchise quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 3: he's a serviceable quarterback and you could win with the

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Speaker 3: guy one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: You definitely can win with him.

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Speaker 4: And I think you have to understand who he is

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Speaker 4: and what he is the Pittsburgh Steelers, No, I want

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Speaker 4: to say. During that stretch when he led them to

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Speaker 4: the postseason, he had a remarkable run. He completed over

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Speaker 4: seventy three percent of his passes, I mean, didn't turn

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Speaker 4: the ball over, had a passer rating.

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Speaker 1: One to eighteen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was really really solid for the stillers.

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Speaker 4: Those numbers would come down if he stretched it out

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Speaker 4: over the course of the season. But the way this

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Speaker 4: team is trying to position itself, they want to run

655
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Speaker 4: the football, they want to push the ball down the

656
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Speaker 4: field on play action, and they want to dominate on defense.

657
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Regards to who's a quarterback, they can get that done

658
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: with Mason Rudolph. They can get it done with another quarterback.

659
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: That's their brand. That's how they want to play, that's

660
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 4: how they can operate.

661
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and reports say that during the first week of

662
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: OTA's in pitch or they say that Mason ruff look okay,

663
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: But look, you and I both know OTAs mean nothing.

664
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: They don't rush the quarterback. It's just basically calistenis right.

665
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you learn. What can you learn

666
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: in the first week of OTAs. I mean, they learned

667
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: the playbook, they learned the places. But you know, there's

668
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: no pressure on any quarterback whatsoever. So how do you

669
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: tell the guys doing well?

670
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you just want to look at it for

671
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: what it is. I mean it's phase through the process

672
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: competitive practices in terms of like you can put eleven

673
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: on eleven offense versus defense. You can see the mastery

674
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: of the playbook.

675
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: You can see how.

676
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: They're executing what you're asking them to execute in this phase.

677
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: But that's all. But you can't say that there's a

678
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: direct correlation between.

679
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: How someone performed in OTAs versus how they can perform

680
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: in the regular season because the pads and the physical

681
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: part of the game is a huge element to being successful.

682
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: It just gives you, like a little tasty cake, just

683
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: a little preview as to it what it could be,

684
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: But it doesn't guarantee that the meal is going to

685
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: be exactly perfect.

686
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Now the downside with the Pittsburgh steel is now

687
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: they say they're monitoring the kirk Cousins situation in Atlanta.

688
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: Please please, I mean that I would rather see Mason

689
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Rudolph at quarterback than Kirk Cousins. I really he had

690
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: a terrible year. List hear kirk Cousins right. I know

691
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: he was coming off an injury as well, but he

692
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: just doesn't matter.

693
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: He was bad, not bad as yeah, bad as bad.

694
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: And if if you're not playing well, then our job

695
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: is to call you out on it. And he wasn't

696
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: playing well. He didn't look like a guy that had

697
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: a lot left in the tank. I mean he went

698
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: through a stretch. I think he had one touchdown in

699
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: eight or nine interceptions or giveaways. That's certainly not going

700
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: to get it done in Pittsburgh. Number one decide in

701
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: fact in winning games turnovers and if you turn it over,

702
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: it's not good for you. And he's ready for the opponent.

703
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins doesn't give him anything. I think Mason Rudolph

704
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: would be a better option than Kirk Cousins at this point,

705
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: even though Kirk and has had a significantly better career

706
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: at this stage, which is what team builders and.

707
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: Evaluate us have to do right now.

708
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: I can't say to Kirk Cousins walks in the door

709
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 4: being regarded as a better player than Mason Rudolf.

710
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you something honestly that hurts

711
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: me to say that and hear that from you, And

712
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: I tell you why. I don't know Kirk Cousins from Adam.

713
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: I seen him play. I never met the guy, but

714
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: I did see him on hard knocks, and when I

715
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: saw him on hard Knocks. I just I said, this

716
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: guy's a real likable guy. I think he's a good teammate.

717
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean maybe I'm wrong. I mean you know better

718
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: than I. I mean, I'm sure you've talked people around

719
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: the league. He seems to be a good teammate, a

720
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 3: good dad, good husband, just a nice guy. And I

721
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: really liked the guy. I like watching him on Hard Knocks.

722
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: Remember did you see that on Hard Knocks when he

723
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: was there like two years ago.

724
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I think it was just.

725
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: A good guy, good guy.

726
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: Well, I mean like good guys. I mean, good guys work,

727
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: but good guy's got to be able to play. That's

728
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: everybody the expectation. You got to be able to play

729
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: like the league doesn't care if you're a good guy back.

730
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: You have to be able to perform when you get

731
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: your chance.

732
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: And for both of those quarterbacks that we talked about,

733
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: Mason Rudolf has shown it in a short sample size.

734
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins has shown it over his career, but not

735
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: of late. Regardless, if they decide to bring in the latter,

736
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I would still think that the former Mason

737
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: Rudolph would be a better option for them, given what

738
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: he knows in the chemistry that he's already established with

739
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: his teammates.

740
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the big question, here's the sixty one thousand

741
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: dollars questions. All right, Say they bring in demand Aaron

742
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: Rodgers and they bring him in late all right. I

743
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: looked this up, and maybe I'm way off base. When

744
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: Brett Farv signed with the Minnesota Vikings, he was forty

745
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: years old and he's signed like.

746
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: In mid August.

747
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: Do you remember that when he went to the Vikings

748
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: And he had a hell of a year with the Vikings.

749
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: So maybe it's maybe it's not that important. I don't know.

750
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if Rodgers comes in in mid August after

751
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: missing two preseason games, perhaps, I mean, could it get done.

752
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I would It can get done. But

753
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: it's a selfish act, right. So part of training, camping,

754
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: part of what you're doing this time of years, you're

755
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: building the chemistry and the camaraderie. And for him, if

756
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: he's capable and able to go, he needs to be

757
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: in there because the quarterback is the de facto leader

758
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: of the team and there's so many things that run

759
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: through the quarterback that you would like to give yourself

760
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: every opportunity not only to master the system, but to

761
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: master the personnel around you. It's a relationship game, and

762
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: if you're not there, you can't build those relationships. To me,

763
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: if he waits that long before he signs, it's another

764
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: it's another thing that just kind of reveals who he

765
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: is as a player, you know. And so hopefully if

766
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: he can get past the personal issues, the family issues

767
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: that have prevented him from making a decision early in

768
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: the off season, he needs to come in. The work

769
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: isn't necessarily what has done on the field, but the chemistry.

770
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Speaker 1: And the Kmarodi. They need to get that together if

771
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna be just starting quarterbacking.

772
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: Well said, He's Bucky Brooks on Andy Furman and we

773
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: are Fox Football and Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Ready.

774
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: But too many questions for one man to answer? Or

775
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: is it ask Bucky is next? Fox Sports Radio has

776
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

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00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,160
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778
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,640
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779
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: coming right up. It's about twelve minutes before the top

780
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: of the hour, and this is Fox Sports Sunday on

781
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Ready. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firman and

782
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: you know what gonna live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.

783
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: So you know, I've been rather selfish over the last

784
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: several months. You know, we do these little segments here

785
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: as Bucky and the blame Game and Yaona, and it's

786
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: all about me, and it shouldn't be that way. We

787
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: have a team here, and Patty, you may be jumping

788
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: in at times.

789
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: I know that, So get get ready, get ready, I'm ready,

790
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: I'm ready. Okay.

791
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: I got a question though for Bucky Brooks, and here

792
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: we go. The president of the NCAA is proposing a

793
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: seventy sixteen field for the College Division one basketball Championship

794
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 3: as soon as next season.

795
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on.

796
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: That too many teams?

797
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: Everybody can't go, like everyone doesn't get a participation trophy,

798
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: Like I love March Madness, but I don't want seventy

799
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: plus teams like you already have too many with sixty

800
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: eight should have been sixty four or stay at sixty four.

801
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: That's the number either year in or year out.

802
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: So I could not agree anymore. I love that. I'm

803
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: so happy you said that. You know you play for

804
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: so what does it mean to even win. You know,

805
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: a league championship. A league title doesn't mean anything. You're

806
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: gonna get teams in there with some five hundred records. Now,

807
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to see it. I really don't.

808
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: But it's all about the Greenbacks, That's what it is. Next,

809
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: how much would you spend Bucket Brooks for a ticket

810
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: to a sporting event, any sporting event, what's the limit

811
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: for you?

812
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: I probably spend up to right around two hundred dollars

813
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: depending on the sporting event. I'm not gonna go crazy.

814
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna spend anything over that because it's gonna

815
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: be on TV, so I'm just not I mean, I

816
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: love the personal experience being at the game, but yeah,

817
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 4: two hundred dollars is pretty much run limit.

818
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't understand why you wouldn't run a

819
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: lay on your couch and watch on TV. I got

820
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: buddies here in the area where I live now, in

821
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: northern Kentucky and Cincinnati that are from New York and

822
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: I loved the Knicks, and they drove out to Indianapolis

823
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: to see the Knicks play.

824
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: They made two.

825
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: Point fifty for a ticket. I don't know where they

826
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: were sitting really didn't even ask. Plus parking right, and

827
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: a tank of gas is like one hundred hundred and

828
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: ten miles from Cincinnati to Indianapolis and come back said, wait,

829
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 3: what are your nuts? And then the game ends ten o'clock.

830
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: You're getting home one one thirty in the morning. I

831
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: could lay on my couch and watch the game. I

832
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: don't get it, but you know, to each his own.

833
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: And there's a market, I guess, and people love it

834
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: and they want to be there. They say they were there,

835
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: they got You know what, here's the thing in this

836
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: day and age, you can't even get a ticket stuff

837
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: to show someone that you were there as proof because

838
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: everything just show your phone it's electronic and go in right.

839
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: I mean back in the day, you'd save the ticket

840
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: stuff and say, hey, remember this game.

841
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I went to this game. They don't do that anymore.

842
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: No, they don't do that anymore. It's a different time.

843
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Sure is all right.

844
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: The w NBA has already expanded to Toronto and San Francisco.

845
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: Now they're talking Detroit. Will it be too much too soon?

846
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: No? I don't think it'd be too much too soon.

847
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: We get to remember, like old school BNBA fans would

848
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: know that the Detroit Shock was a dominant team. They

849
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: won a few championships up there, so yeah, bring them back.

850
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: They should be back. They should have already been back.

851
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 4: Should have never gone anywhere. Damn in the Cleveland Rockers

852
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: like they should have all of them.

853
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: I think there was a team in Tulsa too, and

854
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: they fold and they went to Houston.

855
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I think I don't know.

856
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what is no here's the thing you've been around.

857
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: You're a traveling man, a renaissance kind of guy. What

858
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: is the best sports city in America?

859
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Best sports city and America?

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: It has to be La right, it has to be Dodgers, Lakers,

861
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: you think, Clippers, Angels, No, not really, Rams have the

862
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 4: most sports. I would say the best sports city would

863
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: kind of lean towards maybe Chicago in the middle of

864
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: Midwest because the Cubs, the Bears, the Bulls.

865
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: I know, j To Dame.

866
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: Really you've got to consider they're kind of close to Chicago.

867
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: Which city, No Ju Dame, mate?

868
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean they got college sports, they got the Big Ten,

869
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: they got Northwestern there, so I.

870
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: Mean Chicago, they do have Northwestern Indiana. I mean Notre

871
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 4: Dame would count for them.

872
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, your choice the next big sport explosion

873
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: in our country right now, and obviously I got to

874
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: the WNBA is doing that right now. But women's hockey,

875
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: women's soccer, pro lacrosse or flag football.

876
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 4: I think flag football has a chance, but I don't

877
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: think it'll catch. I think lacrosse is interesting because that

878
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 4: has kind of made its way out west. It's become

879
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: more of a national game than a regional game. Let's

880
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: go with pro lacrosse have an opportunity to explode.

881
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go back a little second here

882
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: on the flag football situation. I don't know if the

883
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: public realizes this, but the USA already has a flag

884
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: football team, and it seems to me like they want

885
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: to dismantle that and let NFL players be available for

886
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight in LA for the Olympics and let

887
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: them play, right. So, it doesn't make any sense, and

888
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a great transition. Because you're a

889
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: good NFL player doesn't mean you're gonna be a good

890
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: flag football player.

891
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but they're trying to grow the game, and

892
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: no disrespect to the guys that are currently on the

893
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: USA roster, we don't know them, so How can you

894
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: grow the game without knowing the personnel? If you have

895
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes and Tyreek Hill and some of the other

896
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: stars on the flag football team, you got a greater

897
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: chance of other people outside of our country watching those games.

898
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: Right?

899
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: Did I hear Patty's voice?

900
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

901
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got a quick one for you, Bucky. Since

902
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 6: you're the big football aficionado, do you think Vikings quarterback

903
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy's more likely to be franchise quarterback or game manager?

904
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: What do you think you better?

905
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: Hold that?

906
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Hold it game manager? How you a game manager? Okay?

907
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: One position in sports that means something. We'll tell you

908
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: all about it next. All right, this parent needs to

909
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: get married real soon. We'll tell you why in just

910
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: about a minute. Now, Good morning, everybody. It is Fox

911
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports. Already he's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman,

912
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: and we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Readyo studios.

913
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: And of course he's the man, my partner, my friend,

914
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: the man who knows all football. You know, you won't

915
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: know anything about football. You don't need to go to

916
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: an encyclopedia or Google. You got Bucket Brooks here. He

917
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: is my guy. Bucky Brooks. How you doing.

918
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm good man, what's going on?

919
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: Everything's great, And I think right now we got to

920
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: look forward to the NBA Finals which is next Thursday,

921
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: and SGA is going against Tyres Halliburton. That's gonna be

922
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: the big draw, I guess, and right now, I guess

923
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna make our predictions. I'm gonna say right now,

924
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City is probably this slight favorite. The game is

925
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: in Oklahoma City on Thursday, and one of the things

926
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Speaker 3: that's gonna decide I think the outcome of this series

927
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Speaker 3: is the depth. I think Oklahoma City is a team

928
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: that uses eight to nine guys, and as far as

929
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: the Pacers are concerned, you know, they got two guys

930
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: that score. If they don't score, they're not gonna win,

931
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Speaker 3: and those are Halliburton and Pascal Siakam, who was the

932
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: MVP of the recent series when they beat the Knicks

933
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: last night.

934
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Look, I think this is a

935
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 4: very even matchup. I think this one goes seven. SGA,

936
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: the MVP might be the decided in fact, they're in this,

937
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: but it's gonna be hard for me to after watching

938
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: the Pagers and watching how they disrupt the rhythm in

939
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: the cadence of everyone's offense with their four court pressure

940
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: to go against them.

941
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Halliburton is interesting because he.

942
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: Is a guy who we kind of fall we fall

943
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: in love with his scorn, but really when he's at

944
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: his best is when he's kind of directing the show,

945
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: putting up buckets, but also make sure everyone gets a

946
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 4: little bit of in the action when it comes to

947
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Speaker 4: the assists to rebouncing those things. I'm gonna go seven,

948
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go Pacers in seven as opposed to Okay, see.

949
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: You know I in a way again, I'm gonna say

950
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: I was wrong. I said that basically the NBA TV

951
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: executives they want to see Oklahoma City, the I want

952
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: to see small markers like in Thedianapolis. I'm wrong on that,

953
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you something else. It reminded me back

954
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: in the day. And you may not even remember this

955
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: as going way back when ABC had the games on

956
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: two o'clock Eastern on Sundays, who was Chris Shankle doing

957
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: the games and it was always the Celtics and Lakers,

958
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: and we didn't get a good chance to see anybody else. Now,

959
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: I think Americas get a chance to see Oklahoma City.

960
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City has not really been on TV that much

961
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: that they just not. I mean they deserve to be,

962
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 3: but they just have not been. It's always been Steph

963
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 3: Curry's a Golden State that's been with Lebron in LA.

964
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: I get it, Okay, people want to see that. But

965
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: now the emerging stars will be on TV. It was

966
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: great to see Minnesota. They lost, but everybody got to

967
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: see the ad Man play. So I mean, right now

968
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 3: we'll see Haller Burton play. It'll be great. So I'm

969
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: kind of happy now that these two teams are in.

970
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm a little sad the Knicks aren't they and I

971
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: was pulling for them. But you know, we'll see two

972
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: teams that basically America has not really seen before.

973
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will get a chance to see two teams

974
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: that America hasn't seen in terms of just how these

975
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: guys are able to get down and make it happen.

976
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: And I would say, like two teams that are really teams.

977
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: You know, we can talk about the headliners and the

978
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: notable guys, but really this is a team that's devoid

979
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: of stars. They kind of get it done. They get

980
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: it done in their own way and they make it happen,

981
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: you know, as the collective, not just like one or

982
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: two individuals going after it. They really do a good

983
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: job of playing as a group. And in playing as

984
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: a group, man, they overwhelmed you with a depth of the.

985
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: Talent, There's no doubt. And they got guys that are

986
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: blue collar guys. I mean, guys that get dirty and

987
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: they play hard. They're Jalen Williams, hit Chet, Holme, Groom

988
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: and the kid Caruso. These guys are just you know,

989
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: guys that the diggers. They just play, you know, no superstars.

990
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: It's go out there, get the job done. This way

991
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: it is, I mean, and we'll see what happens. And

992
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Indianapolis win, but I think Oklahoma

993
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: seeing maybe the slight favorite.

994
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: And you say seven games, that'd be great. I'd love

995
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: to see seven games.

996
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: But I'm moving along right now to the NFL because

997
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: when June comes, basically kind of football gets even closer.

998
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna commend you as I always do, but

999
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: even more so today you may have just done your

1000
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: best work on NFL dot Com.

1001
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: I read you every week. As matter of fact, I

1002
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: don't think you were there last week. It took a

1003
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Speaker 2: week off, am I correct?

1004
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Break break.

1005
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm not chastising you for that, and you can deserve it. Okay,

1006
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: you say there are five new quarterback play caller duos

1007
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: and the NFL defenses should be worried about these. Okay,

1008
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: this was one hell of a research project. Really, I

1009
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't even attempt to do this. How do you do

1010
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: the research on these play callers? I guess offensive coordinator

1011
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: as a quarterback, coaches and the quarterbacks they're going to

1012
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: be working with, how did you get to this?

1013
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: How did you do research on this? And then we'll

1014
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: get into it.

1015
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: So what you do is like is the marriage, right,

1016
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: It's the marriage between the quarterback and the play caller.

1017
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 4: So what you do is you look at the quarterback,

1018
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: You think about the strengths and weaknesses and what they've

1019
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: done when you see them in their best either in.

1020
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: The league or as college players.

1021
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: And then you think about the track record of the

1022
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: play caller and you look at where he comes from,

1023
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: what he's been around, what he knows, who's associated with,

1024
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: what are the odds of them trying to do similar

1025
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: things in this vein? And then you kind of listen

1026
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: to the posts I mean the depressors. The press conference

1027
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 4: is how they talk about those players progressing within those systems,

1028
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: and you try and project out how they're going to

1029
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 4: eventually play with the moves that have been done in

1030
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: the offseason to helup the teams get up and going. So, look,

1031
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 4: it's a lot of speculation, a lot of guess work

1032
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: that comes to it.

1033
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: But it was fun. It was fun to take on

1034
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: this project.

1035
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: All right.

1036
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: So before we get involved, here's a couple of questions

1037
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: I have because you bring them to light. How important

1038
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: is the offensive coordinator's relationship with the quarterback? Do teams

1039
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: actually draft the quarterback with the offensive coordinator in mind?

1040
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: Then?

1041
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: You know, we look at the Chicago Bears with Ben Johnson,

1042
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: who's with the Lions. Does he say to himself, I

1043
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: don't know if I want to move along and work

1044
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: with this quarterback Caleb Williams, because you know, he's not

1045
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: my kind of guy, my style, what I want to do.

1046
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the skill set to do that. Does

1047
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: this that happen or you know, guys say, look it's

1048
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: a better job for me, I'm getting more money. I

1049
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: got a chance to be a head coach. One day,

1050
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: what's the deal on that.

1051
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes it happens that most definitely can happen, and it

1052
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: can be a problem. You would like the offensive coordinator

1053
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: to be adaptable enough to work with anybody, but sometimes

1054
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 4: there's a clear.

1055
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: Does a clear path for how do you want to operate?

1056
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: You know, they're people that kind of suit their skills,

1057
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: guys that are better for them than for others.

1058
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, like that happens. It happens all the time.

1059
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So if that's the case, how much input then

1060
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: does the offensive coordinator have in selecting a quarterback, you know,

1061
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: either drafting or a free agent or trade? I mean,

1062
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: does he get involved in the conversation. Look, we're looking

1063
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 3: at Pittsburgh right now, Aaron Rodgers on the outside looking in,

1064
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: and Arn't Rooney the second the owner. All he does

1065
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: is talk about he wants Aaron Rodgers. I don't know

1066
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 3: anything from Mike Tomlin and I certainly have not heard

1067
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: anything a peep at the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh that

1068
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: he would like to work or not like to work

1069
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers.

1070
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1071
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: I mean, look, all those things are in play, and

1072
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: everyone has to be willing to work with anybody because

1073
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: depending on the chain of command in terms of who

1074
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 4: has to juice is the head coach or the GM.

1075
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: They have final decision making power on who comes on

1076
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: the team, who sticks onto the team. Ultimately, you want

1077
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: everyone to be on the same page. It should be

1078
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: done as collective, not just as individuals. Doesn't always happen

1079
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: like that. It's really critical that the offensive coordinator is

1080
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: in lockstep with the head coach and or GM because

1081
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: he's the expert when it comes to looking at quarterbacks.

1082
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: They're going to lean on him in his eye.

1083
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: To tell them whether a guy has to potentially be

1084
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback if he's just a QB two or

1085
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: a borderline fringe guy that might be a high end

1086
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: game manager that can start in some situations but will

1087
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: be better as a backup in others.

1088
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, help me out with this.

1089
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: The relationship between the offensive coordinator on a team and

1090
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback coach on a team.

1091
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: Quarterback coach has no say.

1092
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: In what kind of plays a cold is that it,

1093
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: I mean, what is their relationship?

1094
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: The relationship is a quarterback coaches the buffer between the

1095
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: play caller and the quarterback, and his job is to

1096
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: take some of the messages from both sides and deliver

1097
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: room to the other party. So if the play caller

1098
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator wants something done, sometimes you'll whisper it to

1099
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: the quarterback coach, and the quarterback coach would be the

1100
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: one to tell the quarterback same thing. When the quarterback

1101
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: see something that he likes, he may tell his coach,

1102
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: who would then relay it to the offensive coordinator. A

1103
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: lot of it depends on how the staff is set up,

1104
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: the chemistry and the connectivity between the staff, and can

1105
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: everyone be on the same page.

1106
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: Are we all on point? Are we all together?

1107
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: Do we all agree or have an alignment on the

1108
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 4: vision of the offense to team and how the quarterback

1109
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: should play?

1110
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: Okay, now, I think I mentioned this too way back when,

1111
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: but I want to bring it up again because I

1112
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: think egos become involved big time. And what I mean

1113
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: by that. You got a quarterback and that's kind of

1114
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: an ego position. I don't care who you are, you

1115
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: have to have a big ego because you have the

1116
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: face of the franchise.

1117
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: Back is the position in the National Football League.

1118
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: Okay, a quarterback who's going to take I guess commands

1119
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: if you will from a quarterback coach who really and

1120
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: truly never played the game, who has no track record whatsoever.

1121
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough.

1122
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: And I saw that firsthand way back when when Boomer

1123
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: Asiasin was the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals and Data

1124
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: Bible was the quarterback coach. I know, there was like

1125
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: oil or its assault in whatever and an open whatever

1126
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 3: it was, you know, but Boomer did not get along

1127
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: with Dana Bible. And for whatever the reason, maybe because

1128
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: he thought that what does Dana Bible? No, he never

1129
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: played the game, or he did, but he wasn't as

1130
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: good as me. How can he tell me what to do?

1131
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: That happens more than once. I would believe egos.

1132
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean ego certainly plays a big part in

1133
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: all of it.

1134
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 7: You know.

1135
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: Unfortunately it happens. But guys need to be on the

1136
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: same page. And I will say this.

1137
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: One of the things that happens when you are a player.

1138
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: Early in your tenurement, become a player, you look at

1139
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: the media guy and you look at all your coaches

1140
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: and you see their experiences, You see who they've coached,

1141
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: where they've coached, You look at where they played.

1142
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you are a player.

1143
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: And you see that your coach either hasn't played at

1144
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: a prominent place, hasn't played at a high level, or

1145
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 4: hasn't played at all. It can be harder for you

1146
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: to initially trust in the information that he's given you,

1147
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: and he then has to earn that trust by telling

1148
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: you things that eventually play out, whether it's showing you

1149
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: a technique, whether it's giving you a tip or a

1150
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: clue that helps you make a play on a ball.

1151
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: That trust is slowly earned.

1152
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: When you are a guy who is playing for a

1153
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: former player. Initially, and it doesn't mean that it always

1154
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 4: says the same. Initially, there's a little credibility that's given

1155
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 4: to the former player.

1156
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Now that's it.

1157
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: They can lose that credibility quickly if they can't teach,

1158
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: they can't instruct, they can't coach.

1159
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: The ill prepared, all of those things.

1160
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: But it is a difference in terms of the initial

1161
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: reaction to who's coaching you, given whether they played or not,

1162
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: and what they've done along the way in the journey.

1163
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that because in football, I see

1164
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: that and it happens often. We'll get to that in

1165
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 3: a second, But in baseball it's usually the journeyman, the

1166
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 3: guy who's not played who becomes a great manager.

1167
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: Think about that. I mean, guys, I mean I remember

1168
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: when I was a kid.

1169
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: But the Yankees it was Hank Bauer, believe the Major

1170
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: He didn't do much in the major leagues, but he

1171
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: was a tremendous and I know he had a great team,

1172
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: but he was a great manager. And great managers in

1173
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball have usually been journeyman.

1174
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: But in the National.

1175
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: That's the same thing too.

1176
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 4: Now, what we're saying is, so there's a difference between

1177
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: being a star, a journeyman, and someone who never played

1178
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: in the league, Like, there are different levels to it. Normally,

1179
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: You're right, the journeyman tends to be the better coach

1180
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: because the journeyman had to learn everything to be able

1181
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: to stay and carve out a career. Yeah, the star

1182
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: was so talented that they may have been able to

1183
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: skip steps, which is why sometimes great players can't be

1184
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 4: great coaches, because things that were very easy to them

1185
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: are very hard hard for the common man, and so

1186
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: their frustration stems from, man, I don't understand why you

1187
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: can't do it.

1188
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: I used to do this all the time.

1189
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: The journeyman has a little more relatability to the player

1190
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: because he had to learn all the steps along the way,

1191
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 4: sometimes multiple positions along the way. And they tend to

1192
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: be better teachers because they had to pull from a

1193
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: more expansive knowledge base to help themselves carve out a career.

1194
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: Ted Williams may have been the greatest hitter ever in

1195
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball.

1196
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: He was not a great man.

1197
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: He won, I think once when he was in Washington,

1198
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: but other than that because he expected everybody to do

1199
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: what he did.

1200
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: He made it look so easy to hit. He thought

1201
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: everybody could do the same way.

1202
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: Tito Francona, who's the manager of the Cincinnati Reds right now,

1203
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: will be a Hall of Fame manager one day. Not

1204
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: a great player, not a Hall of Fame player, but again,

1205
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: studied the game and is and has been. Has a

1206
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: great track record with the Red Sox, in the Cleveland

1207
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: Indians and Guardians whatever. Okay, so he was I considered

1208
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: not a journeyman, but not a Hall of Fame player,

1209
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: and he's a great manager. Let's look at the NFL.

1210
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: Andy Reid. Was he a great player a Hall of

1211
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: Fame player? I don't think so. Marv Leavy, Bill Belichick,

1212
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, all these guys have been tremendous coaches.

1213
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Tremendous coaches.

1214
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: They have been and the connection like I don't look,

1215
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: I don't think any of those guys played at the

1216
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 4: highest level. But the thing that helped him because I

1217
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: can speak for Andy Reid personally, when I was in

1218
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 4: Green Bay playing from ninety five to ninety seven parts

1219
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: of those seas since Andy Reid was first the tight

1220
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: end coach while he also was the head of the

1221
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: scout team, and when Andy Reid got the job in

1222
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: Philadelphia as the head coach, it was still unprecedented that

1223
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 4: he made this change. But Andy Reid went from being

1224
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: a player who a coach who never called plays during

1225
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: his tenure in Green Bay to being the head coach

1226
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: and the primary play caller in Philadelphia. And what he

1227
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 4: was able to do during his time at Green Bay

1228
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 4: he sat and watched. He watched John Gruden and Mary

1229
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: Yucci and Ray Sherman, not Ray Sherman, Sherman Lewis. All

1230
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: of those guys maned the offensive coordinated position, and he

1231
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: learned and operated under them while also seeing Mike Cromebrun

1232
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: who was a game day play caller do it. He

1233
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: took all of those experiences and really worked hard at

1234
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: the craft and became and is arguably the best play

1235
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 4: caller in football and may go down as the greatest

1236
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: head coach in football when it's all said and done,

1237
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: so you can go about a different pass. It's just

1238
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: the initial credibility sometimes tends to go to the former

1239
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: player over the guy that didn't play. But once you

1240
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: get in the league, it's about what you do. The

1241
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: Marytoxy does play out.

1242
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: Okay, let's move in here the couple of situations you

1243
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: wrote wrote about it because they want to give you

1244
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: some credit. He Okay, can the new offensive coordinator make

1245
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: a real difference in the quarterback play?

1246
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: But he doesn't have the skill set.

1247
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: If he can't get it done, you know, I don't

1248
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: care who the offensive coordinet is. You got Ben Johnson

1249
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: now in Chicago with the Beers, with Caleb Williams now,

1250
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: obviously the offensive line's got to be a factor too.

1251
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, and they got as you mentioned, they got

1252
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: Jonah Jackson there and Drew Donmond. They got some additions

1253
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: on that front line, which is going to help the

1254
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: protection of Caleb Williams. But again, He's got to change

1255
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: his attitude too. He didn't want to go there in

1256
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: the first place. In the book that he wrote, remember

1257
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 3: he said that it's quarterback hell, and he kind of

1258
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 3: backed off on that the end of the day.

1259
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: He did back off on that the other day. And

1260
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: it is quarterback yo. It has been quarterback yo. That

1261
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: has been proven. But look, he can succeed. Now here's

1262
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: what has to happen. Ben Johnson is gonna coach from

1263
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: hard and so you have to have the layers between

1264
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson and Kayla Williams. So it's not always just

1265
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: the tongue lastings in those things. But he has high

1266
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: standards and expectations. Kayler Williams may need that after operating

1267
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: very loosey goosey programs prior to his arrival in Chicago.

1268
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: Like look, Lincoln Raley, I can't say he runs the

1269
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: tightest ship.

1270
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: Then we saw last year Chicago wasn't the tightest ship.

1271
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: Now he may have to adapt an adjust to something

1272
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: that's not all about Kaylen Williams.

1273
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: We'll see. So yeah, it can happen.

1274
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 4: A good offensive coordinator can bring out the best in

1275
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: the quarterback because what they can do is make you

1276
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: hear people talk about quarterback.

1277
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: Friendly, make the scheme easily.

1278
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: Digestible for him while creating big play opportunities with minimum

1279
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: work and effort from the quarterback.

1280
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a given right here, because you got

1281
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: Minnesota with JJ McCarthy who missed the last year with

1282
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: that knee injury. But you got Kevin O'Connell who's got

1283
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: a track wreck with Sam Donald's. So again, that's gonna

1284
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: make JJ McCarthy feel pretty good because he's got to

1285
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: be saying, hey, he did it for Sam.

1286
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna do it for me.

1287
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Dad has to do it.

1288
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: It goes beyond that he did with Kirk Cousins, he

1289
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: did with Josh Dobbs, Nick Mullins.

1290
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: All those guys had bites at the apple and played.

1291
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: Fairly well for Kevin O'Connell given their own individual talents.

1292
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 4: But you have to feel hopeful and optimistic that JJ

1293
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: McCarthy is going to play well given what Kevin O'Connor

1294
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 4: was able to do with Sam Donald. When Sam Donald

1295
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: got to Minnesota, he hadn't put up significant numbers. He

1296
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: had been maddenly inconsistent, but he found a way to

1297
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: carve it out where he was able to get one

1298
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar contract, leaving Minnesota to.

1299
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: Go to the Seattle Seahawks.

1300
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy is as talented, maybe even more talented as

1301
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: a dual threat player, a guy that can operate inside

1302
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: and outside of the pocket. The challenge that you have

1303
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: with McCarthy is just an experience. Only twenty eight collegiate

1304
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: stars no NFL starts to date may take him a

1305
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: while to a to the new game, but he has

1306
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: talent and he is won at a high level in college.

1307
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: And when Jim harborugh I listened to it on the

1308
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: podcasts says that, look, the guy that reminds me of

1309
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: myself in the league would be JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I tend to lean to that because Captain.

1311
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 4: Comeback was a tremendous player for the Indianapolis calls.

1312
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: All right, now we got the Jets, and Justin Fields

1313
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: just the other day came out with it.

1314
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: I get it.

1315
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: He's excited a new team they got to play, call

1316
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: a new play caller in New York.

1317
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: He says he could be a star in New York.

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00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean, reel it in a little bit, Justin really,

1319
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you're it's a bad team. But

1320
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: you put down that Justin Fields and what the kind

1321
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: of engstrands new play caller. You think they could make

1322
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 3: some damage over there in New York. Go tell me why,

1323
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: because Justin's got to reel it.

1324
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: In man. The other day, he had that big story.

1325
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: Coming out saying, I think I could be a star

1326
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: in New York with the Jets.

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if he needs to really in,

1329
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: if he truly believes it can happen.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is what he does.

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: I like this, and I like this because to me,

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Speaker 4: this is the first time that Justin Fields is going

1333
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: to go into a situation where he has truly embraced

1334
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: as QB. One didn't really feel that since in Chicago

1335
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: felt like they didn't always work with them, sometimes they

1336
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: worked against them in terms of what they were putting in,

1337
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: how they called them, how they manage them. In New York,

1338
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 4: he was the guy that was handpicked by Aaron Glenn.

1339
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn had a tough time defending Justin Fields during

1340
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: their matchups in the NFC North. He brings them in

1341
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: and I'm sure that Aaron Glenn has told the offensive

1342
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 4: coordinator I want to see the same guy that hurt us,

1343
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: so I want him to run.

1344
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to do.

1345
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 4: These things X Y and Z building an offense around

1346
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: his strengths, and we're going because this is who we're

1347
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: building around. I believe because of the full long commitment

1348
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: to elevate justin fields, you'll see a better player. They

1349
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: are going to elevate him and his connection with Garrett Wilson,

1350
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: who he spent two seasons with at Ohio State, the

1351
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: new connection with Mason Taylor, the running backs breeall Brayln Allen.

1352
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: They have enough weapons in fire power around and for

1353
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 4: hundred sixty.

1354
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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that we've got a couple of more.

1355
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Speaker 3: We'll get to those in a couple of minutes, but

1356
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:07,880
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1383
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Speaker 3: I want to get back to this justin Fields thing

1384
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: because he says he's on the cusp of a breakout season.

1385
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: This was after the Jets fifth Ota practice the other

1386
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: day and he says, quote, I think I could be great.

1387
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: This is what he said. All right, that's been the

1388
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: goal for me my whole life.

1389
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: I get it, all right, But that quote I think

1390
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: I could be great, It's gonna bite him in the

1391
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 3: rear end of the Jets open the season zero three

1392
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: and he has five I nts. I just think that people,

1393
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: and I know he's enthusiastic, he's excited. It's a new season,

1394
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: fresh start, oc new team. But someone's gonna look, I

1395
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: was a PR guys to talk to these guys, Watch

1396
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: what you say, it's going to come back and haunt you.

1397
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: And honestly, will you play.

1398
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: Did the PR guy ever come over to you and

1399
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: tell you that, Although in this day and age, it

1400
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: doesn't make a difference, because even if the PR guy does,

1401
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: you go home and get on your ex account and

1402
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: say it yourself anyway, right, But did he do that

1403
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: when you played?

1404
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: To just temper your emotions a.

1405
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: Little bit, A little bit, I mean, like, but there, Look,

1406
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with what justin

1407
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 4: feel said, he just put himself out there, and you

1408
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: have to be willing to deal with the smoke if

1409
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: you did it. But I've never fought someone from being honest,

1410
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 4: you know. I think he was trying to be honest

1411
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 4: with his assessment and all those things. And as long

1412
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: as you're being honest and as long as you feel

1413
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: good about what you're saying, like you can stand it

1414
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 4: and live in it. Regardless of whether he said anything

1415
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 4: or not, He's going to face the criticism, you know,

1416
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: like he's going to be critiqued. He's going to you know,

1417
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 4: he's going to get the heat from any and everybody.

1418
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 4: So he just has to concert on what he can control.

1419
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 4: And he can control the way that he goes after,

1420
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: the way did he plays, the way did he attacks

1421
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: the preparation process. If he does that, things will be good.

1422
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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I took a different tactic as you

1424
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: could imagine.

1425
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: When I was a PR guy.

1426
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Speaker 3: I worked for the fourthload of THELL Strikers in the

1427
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Speaker 3: now defunct North American Soccer League.

1428
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: We had a pretty good team.

1429
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 3: We had some great players of George Best may he

1430
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 3: rest in peace, and Gerd Mueller the bomber from Germany

1431
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 3: and Gordon Banks, a one eyed goalkeeper. There's a lot

1432
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 3: of good stories there. But Ron Newman was our coach

1433
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: and we had a little bit of a losing streak.

1434
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: So when that happened, obviously what happens that the wolves

1435
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: come out of the woodwork newspaper guys and talk radio guys.

1436
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: And I had a kind of a gimmick and it

1437
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: kind of worked.

1438
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: And now one guy on one of these radio stations

1439
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: really ragging on Ron.

1440
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: May he rest in peace too.

1441
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: And I suggested, I said, coach, I said, why don't

1442
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: we write a letter to this guy and say, look,

1443
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 3: if you got a problem with me and the way

1444
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: I coach what I'm doing, why don't you face me

1445
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 3: and I'll come on your show and talk about it.

1446
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: Right, And he did. I mean he wrote that.

1447
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Ron was great because most of these guys

1448
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: behind the microphone they never show up in the clubhouse,

1449
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: they never do okay, So they have these big beer

1450
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 3: muscles behind the microphone and they go crazy. So Ron

1451
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: wrote the letter for my suggestion, and then the guy

1452
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: called him up. I didn't think he would, but he did.

1453
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: Ron was up there and the guy did a complete

1454
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: one eighty. Really they became best of friends and that

1455
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: was the end of the attacking. Really it works, it

1456
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: really does.

1457
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: It works.

1458
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 3: I mean, so we'll see what happens over there. Last,

1459
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 3: but not least, cam Ward with Brian Callahan. He used

1460
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 3: to be in Cincinnati with the Bengals. I think that's

1461
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a pretty good marriage caim Wood and Brian Callahan.

1462
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it has a chance to be a

1463
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 4: pretty good marriage because cam Ward is talented, cam Ward

1464
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: is tough, cam Ward is everything that they didn't have

1465
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 4: in the quarterback room last year. Brian Callahan has been

1466
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 4: around some of the best look he'd spent time with

1467
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. I'm sure he wants this offense to kind

1468
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: of operate much like sin Standy Bengals offence operated through

1469
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 4: the quarterback. And if he does that, cam Wore certainly

1470
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 4: has demonstrated at Incarnate Word. He did it at we

1471
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 4: Washington State and then Miami that he can turn around

1472
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 4: programs on the strength of his right arm. But they

1473
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: still need a little more firepower. But the quarterback is

1474
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 4: the real deal, and he'll have an opportunity to prove

1475
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: it under Brian Callahan's direction.

1476
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: No doubt about that.

1477
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: Now, speaking of quarterbacks, Joe Flacco, the quarterback on the

1478
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns who was slammed by a next teammate of

1479
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: his first stupid rant, and believe me, it was stupid.

1480
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: He said that he doesn't see himself as a mentor

1481
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: for younger players.

1482
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

1483
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: I mean, really, the fact that you're just forty years

1484
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: of age and you're playing quarterback even just don't even

1485
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: open your mouth. Just what you do, your emotions, what

1486
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 3: you do, or your workouts, whatever it may be, that's

1487
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 3: mentoring right there.

1488
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: How do you say that? And if you're a teammate,

1489
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: you want to see the best for the team.

1490
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: I understand you're nervous in a sense of losing your

1491
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: starting job, but I think it's part of your job

1492
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: to make the team better and if it makes the

1493
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: backups better, to become better players. Because let's face it,

1494
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: you may get injured during the season. You're forty freaking

1495
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: years old, all right, you may get injured. How does

1496
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: he come out with a statement like that? And I

1497
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: believe it was Chris Canty, who played with Flacco and Baltimore.

1498
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: He said it was a ridiculous statement. He's a mentoring

1499
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: a young player is only going to make that player better,

1500
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 3: which makes the team better. That's basically what it's all about,

1501
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: is it.

1502
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 4: It is all about that. But let me be honest

1503
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 4: and let me have four dislosi for you. Most quarterbacks

1504
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 4: aren't in that game. Most quarterbacks because by nature, we've

1505
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 4: created a selfishness amongst that position where we feel like

1506
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 4: the starting quarterback can't be bogged down with those things.

1507
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: In terms of mentoring young players and the like. I

1508
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: say that.

1509
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: Is bs in terms of it because everyone can give

1510
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: tips to young players. They're always around, they're looking for guidance.

1511
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: You can share that. And so for the team, it's

1512
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: always better if everyone, all the starters are really good

1513
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: with the young players, because it only helps the team

1514
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: get better. But look, Joe Flacco may see it a

1515
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: different way, but I'm gonna tell you, and I've said

1516
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 4: this about quarterbacks for the longest time, most quarterbacks are

1517
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: inherently selfish because we've created an environment where it's twenty

1518
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 4: one and one's one quarterback and then twenty one other dudes,

1519
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: and we have a different set of rules for the

1520
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 4: other dudes than we have for the quarterback, Joe Flacco

1521
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 4: should be expected to not necessarily hold the young quarterbacks hands,

1522
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: but he should be.

1523
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: Expected to share his information.

1524
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: Because what's the point of having a forty year old

1525
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 4: quarterback with all that experience in the building if he's

1526
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,480
Speaker 4: not going to share some of that experience and expertise.

1527
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

1528
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: Now you're talking about the quarterbacks being selfish, But is

1529
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: it that way, like with the offensive line defensive line,

1530
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 3: that the lineman that they talk about the rookies that

1531
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: come in and take them under their wing a little

1532
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: bit and show them techniques.

1533
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: Oh, look, I think the lineman should do that. The

1534
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 4: linemen are expected to do that, like they all work together.

1535
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: The culture of the room is one where you're supposed

1536
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 4: to give back and leave it better than you inherited it.

1537
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: That's what the nature of the NFL is. It's about

1538
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 4: making the league better. And the only way to make

1539
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: the league better is to take the knowledge that you've

1540
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 4: acquired and share that in the past at a and

1541
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 4: then you pay it forward by asking the other people

1542
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 4: to do it.

1543
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: Look, man, that's how it should be. That's a basic expectation.

1544
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: It's funny and That's exactly what Chris Canty said. He said,

1545
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 3: you're only as strong as your weakest link. The whole

1546
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: point of the exercise is that everybody makes everyone better.

1547
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: That's why you practice. You're making each other better. It's

1548
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do. You do that with the

1549
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: reps on the practice field, but you also do that

1550
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: by sharing points and notes in the film room. And

1551
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 3: I think that there's got to be some coaches that

1552
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: would go to a player and say, look, take.

1553
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: This kid under your wing a little bit. Does that happen?

1554
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: Or coaches are afraid to do that because they know

1555
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 3: the guy's not going to do it.

1556
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: They don't even have to tell you that.

1557
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 4: It's a natural expectation if you created the right environment,

1558
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: that the older people will teach the younger people. I mean,

1559
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 4: even at the high school level, you tell the older

1560
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 4: guys to teach the younger guys. Hey, make sure we

1561
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: let them know how we operate and do business. The

1562
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: coach can't do everything like that should be a basic expectation. Hey,

1563
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: let's make sure we show them how we get down,

1564
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: how we operate, because if they're going to be a

1565
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: part of the family, they got to operate and understand

1566
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 4: the family business. That's a natural expectation, that's a reasonable

1567
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 4: expectation for a player and a teammate.

1568
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it really is.

1569
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: Now Flat though, said this week he wasn't going to

1570
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 3: be quot bated by the mentor question, and he signed

1571
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 3: with the Browns to play football.

1572
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: But you could do both.

1573
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: You could mentor while you're playing football, share your experiences

1574
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: in the league are forty years old. I mean the

1575
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: question I would have if I was a rookie, you'd say,

1576
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: when the Browns called you when you were on the couch,

1577
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: what two years ago, and you came back as a

1578
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 3: comeback player of the year, Well, how did you get

1579
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: in shape so quickly?

1580
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: How did it happen? How are you able to do that? Right?

1581
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: The questions? I liked it.

1582
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 3: So if I asked that to Flacco as a rookie,

1583
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 3: is Flaka going to walk away say leave me alone?

1584
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: Is that what he's gonna do?

1585
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you have to ask, and it is

1586
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 4: up to the rookie to ask. But it's up to

1587
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: the rookie to ask, learn and to do those other things.

1588
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 4: The only thing that you really asked the veteran to

1589
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: do is to be open. Don't give him misinformation, like

1590
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 4: be open, be honest.

1591
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: Help them. You know, you don't have to hold his hands.

1592
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 4: But if you want someone to be a pro, you're

1593
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 4: trying to ask him man, show him how to be

1594
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 4: a pro. And I can say in my career, I've

1595
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 4: had a few older players that really took a great

1596
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: interest in me and they passed along those tools and

1597
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: tips to show me how to be a pro. When

1598
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 4: I was in Buffalo, Bill Brooks took a lot of

1599
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 4: time with me individually and talk to me about being

1600
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: a pro. When I was in Green Bay, I asked

1601
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 4: some older guys Robert Brooks and Edgar Bennett that really

1602
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 4: took the time and showed me how to go about

1603
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 4: conducting my business, even though I didn't play the same

1604
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 4: position they did. At Craig Newsom was a younger player

1605
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 4: who was We were the same age, but he had

1606
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 4: played a position a long time.

1607
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: He showed me.

1608
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 4: James Hasty was a pro bowler in Kansas City. He

1609
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 4: showed me, so that is how it should be. Eric

1610
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 4: Allen in Oakland when I was with the Raiders. The

1611
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: older players should show the younger players how to get

1612
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: down and in turn, I felt obligated. I felt like

1613
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 4: it was my duty that when younger players came in

1614
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: that I also passed.

1615
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: Along what I knew.

1616
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that the information they give you works

1617
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 4: for you and your game and your style, but they

1618
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 4: are trying to help you become a better player. So

1619
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 4: to me, that's what the league should be about. And

1620
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 4: you know, but I told you, man, quarterbacks are different.

1621
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: We just sat in the first album and talked about

1622
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.

1623
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: Not wanted to come in for camp.

1624
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: He may not come in into training camp, which to

1625
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 4: me is crazy, because how can we be a team

1626
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: if we don't do some of the routine things that

1627
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 4: you have to do to be a team. But quarterbacks

1628
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 4: operate in a different space because we've allowed them to

1629
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 4: operate in a different space.

1630
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1631
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 3: Really, Now, if you could happen to impart a little wisdom,

1632
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 3: some education, some teaching onto these new young guys that

1633
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: you're spending maybe ten twelve hours a day with in

1634
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:13,959
Speaker 3: training camp.

1635
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do it? Why wouldn't you do that?

1636
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, and look, maybe that's

1637
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: why most of these players that play in the NFL

1638
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: really don't go with the coaching. You really don't see that.

1639
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: Baseball guys maybe go with the coaching a little more

1640
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: so managing than football players. Is it the grind? It's

1641
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: a longer day. Obviously, the season's a lot shorter than baseball.

1642
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: But you don't see a lot of ex players become

1643
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: coaches as you do in baseball.

1644
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean you do, but look at that.

1645
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: I think all of it, all of it kind of

1646
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: depends on what you want out of it and how

1647
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 4: you can best put it together. I think the big

1648
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 4: thing that you're trying to do is you're trying to

1649
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 4: make sure that everyone knows how to you operate in

1650
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 4: the space and in the environment that you're in. And

1651
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 4: it takes older players to be able to do it

1652
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 4: because nobody's going to get it on their own. You

1653
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 4: have to you have to show them. And if you're

1654
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: not willing to show them, then man, you can't necessarily

1655
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 4: have those guys on your team. Like that's the way

1656
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 4: that I would want to do it. If you're trying

1657
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 4: to set up a culture and environment, and because so

1658
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 4: many coaches talk about the culture to culture to culture

1659
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 4: to culture, you got to set those expectations. You got

1660
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 4: to take the expectations, so those those guys know what

1661
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 4: the demands are.

1662
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: I've learned from you that quarterbacks are selfish, so it

1663
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: doesn't make a difference how I feel.

1664
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: One hundred percent why I feel to us Joe Flacco.

1665
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: But these people are too stupid to realize that your

1666
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: vision on TV or basically what you say translates on

1667
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 3: how fans perceive you, how they treat you, although they

1668
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: don't care.

1669
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: But right now, I have no respect for Joe Flacco.

1670
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: I don't like the guy. I really don't.

1671
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I don't respect it. I would say

1672
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 4: I I would disappointed. I'm disappointed. I would say I'm disappointed.

1673
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 4: But it's not the first time that he said this,

1674
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: Like he hasn't taken a different stance, Like he's been

1675
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 4: putting this situation for a while, Like since he left

1676
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens, he has been in this kind of

1677
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 4: mentorship situation where he's the starter, but you kind of

1678
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 4: bring him in as the vet, et cetera, et cetera.

1679
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 4: Hasn't always done it the way that I guess everyone

1680
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 4: would want him to do it. But look, those teams

1681
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 4: keep signing them and so you know what you're getting

1682
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: when you sign them, and so that's not a part

1683
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 4: of the deal. But they continue to bring him in,

1684
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 4: so let's be okay by them.

1685
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. It's not just football play.

1686
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: I watched I think it was the Minnesota game, the

1687
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 3: a last game when they got defeated in Minnesota. I

1688
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: think after the game, somebody was interviewed. I don't know

1689
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 3: who it was, and the interviewer was great. It was

1690
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: a female and the guy she was talking to didn't

1691
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 3: even look at her. I mean to me, come on, really,

1692
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 3: I mean, there's gotta be some training. It's just a

1693
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 3: bad look. It's a bad optic. I mean, she's asking

1694
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: him questions and his mind was somewhere else.

1695
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: I know.

1696
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: It's after a game. Me, you don't even want to

1697
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 3: be there, perhaps, but if you're gonna be there, you're

1698
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 3: gonna commit to do it, do it right, do it right.

1699
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Right, it's like this show. If

1700
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna do it for three hours, you know, do

1701
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 3: it right. Prepare and then we try our best to

1702
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: do and I think we do a decent job because

1703
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: I think we prepare. By the way, he's Bucket Brooks,

1704
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm a deferment. We are Fox Sports Sunday and Fox

1705
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: Sports Readio. Now there's two ways to go up or down,

1706
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 3: left or right or yay or nay. And it's next

1707
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 3: yay r nay coming right up about ten minutes before

1708
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: the top of the hour.

1709
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: That would be eight a m. On the East coast.

1710
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 3: East Bucket Brooks, I'm de Ferman And by the way,

1711
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 3: we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1712
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: And Patty, are we ready for yay rornay? Are we right?

1713
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories need.

1714
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: An ass I think we need a ruling on this.

1715
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 5: Yay or nay?

1716
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 8: All right, here we go. The NFL has go ahead.

1717
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 8: Come on, wait a minute, I know, put drink down.

1718
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 3: Put the drink down down and I'm the cigar, will

1719
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,520
Speaker 3: you please.

1720
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's an outer body. Carry with the cigar there.

1721
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 6: Well, it is time for the yay or nays And

1722
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 6: apparently and he's trying to take my job from me.

1723
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I blame you.

1724
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: Can I borrow your wisonator?

1725
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 5: Yes you can? Yeah, I think you need it now

1726
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 5: At this point.

1727
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 6: So anyways, guys, so the NFL has moved into Friday

1728
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 6: night for games, traditionally a night set aside for high

1729
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 6: school football.

1730
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 5: Are you happy with this?

1731
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 4: Yay?

1732
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: Your nay?

1733
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 5: Andy Furman, Nay, nay, nay.

1734
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: I am not happy with this. I mean, really and truly.

1735
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: The NFL they are bullies, but they moved over the NBA.

1736
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: That they're killing the NBA to kick the NBA. But

1737
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: at least that's a professional sports team. They'll they'll work

1738
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 3: it out. But this is high school. Come on, really,

1739
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 3: high school? Just day night, Friday night lights, right, come on?

1740
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm okay with all of it. Like, the

1741
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 4: NFL is the NFL, and that's what they do. They

1742
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 4: dominate the sports landscape. When you're the king, your job

1743
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 4: is to conquer and to keep conquering it. That's what

1744
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 4: they're doing. So I'm okay with it. I'm okay with

1745
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: it too. Whoa, we went from whoa what?

1746
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

1747
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: Nothing, Well, we.

1748
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 6: Were gonna go from the NFL. We're gonna go to

1749
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 6: the NBA for this one. So Tyres Haliburton's dad we

1750
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 6: all know. So he ran up on the court during

1751
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 6: the Pacers against the Bucks. You know he got suspended.

1752
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 6: We thought it was gonna be like, you know, a

1753
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 6: forever ban during the rest of the playoffs. Right, well,

1754
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 6: he was back. He was back for the last two

1755
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 6: in the Pacers. Seems no one gets punished anymore, yay

1756
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 6: or nay, Bucky Brooks.

1757
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 4: I mean he was punished. She was kept away for

1758
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: a little bit. But how you gonna keep him away

1759
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 4: at home? How you go kee him away from the

1760
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 4: home games? He has to be around. I'm okay with

1761
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 4: his dad, like, and let's be honest. You gotta have

1762
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: some thick skin. You gotta be able to deal with

1763
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 4: some criticism and some bars. If you're a player, it's fine.

1764
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: I think he was. He should have been allowed to

1765
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: come back.

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: He did gets He ran on the court, which is

1767
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 3: a no no. But here's the deal. We're in a

1768
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: country right now with a president that pardons everybody, so

1769
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: no one gets punished. You could do anything you want

1770
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 3: right now and you'll never get in trouble. So it's okay,

1771
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: let him come back and watch this kid play, all right?

1772
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 6: Well, that was speaking of possibly some trouble here. Stefan

1773
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:23,839
Speaker 6: Higgs missed voluntary workouts with the Pets that's no big deal, right, Well,

1774
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 6: it seems he was seen on a boat with a

1775
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 6: little bit of some pink looking powder.

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 5: We don't have to get into lleg of six to that.

1777
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 6: But does so new coach Mike Rabel Does he move

1778
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 6: on from him?

1779
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1780
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: Or nay?

1781
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 3: Andy Furman probably nay because he needs him, Honestly, I mean,

1782
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: that's what happens. And I think Stefan Diggs knows that

1783
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 3: that he's valuable for the receiving cores of that team.

1784
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: But why would you do something like that? We'll get

1785
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: into the latest stupid.

1786
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't know, Like I mean, we

1787
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 4: didn't see him in jest to pink powder. He just

1788
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 4: had the pink powder in his hand and the ladies

1789
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 4: took it. Look, volunteer is volunteer. It means that's just

1790
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: optional for you to show up. He'll be there. He'll

1791
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,839
Speaker 4: come there, have a tough conversation, but ultimately step on Diggs.

1792
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 4: His test won't change on a team.

1793
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 5: All right, final one? Here? Do you want to go

1794
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 5: boo boom?

1795
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 2: We'll push it up, We'll push it out.

1796
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: Okay, no prime time for this team or is there

1797
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: gota more on Fox next?

1798
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Now?

1799
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 3: The road they travel will only be on Sunday, that's

1800
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: coming right up. Good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy

1802
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 3: from and we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1803
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 3: And uh, we do have an additional yay on a

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01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 3: which Patty, I know you're.

1805
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: Dying to ask.

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: And what would the show be without talking about the

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: w NBA, right, I mean really and truly the last

1808
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 3: several weeks we've got to open all our segments of

1809
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 3: the WNBA. So this has a WNBA slant, So if

1810
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: you want to give it to us you can.

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 5: Okay, well I will.

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 6: So the w NBA's TV ratings and attendance will dip

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 6: until Caitlin Clark's return from injury.

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01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 5: Yay or nay? Andy Furrman, No, get.

1815
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 2: With the Bucky. I want to know what he has

1816
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: to say on this.

1817
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 5: Yay Bucky?

1818
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: Oh yes?

1819
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 4: Is that blusing gonna dip because Kaylyn Clark brings into

1820
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 4: casuals to people that aren't like the hardcore at WNBA fans.

1821
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 4: They wanted to see Kaylyn Clark in the Indian nffever

1822
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 4: play And regardless of whether we feel like Kayln Clark

1823
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: is the best player or not in WNBA. She certainly

1824
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest draws, if not the biggest draw.

1825
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:29,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, it'll be impacted.

1826
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 1: The TV ratings will go down until Kaitlyn Clark returns.

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with you, But here's the question. I

1828
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,919
Speaker 3: got to ask you this because it makes me nuts.

1829
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 3: There are great players, there had been great plays prior

1830
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: to Kaitlyn Clark. Why the match? Why is she done

1831
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: that makes the league go to the next level, which

1832
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 3: obviously I have seen and they'll never admit this. See

1833
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: the envy and jealousy of other players in the league,

1834
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: which is ridiculous because what she has done is made

1835
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 3: life better for them. For them, you know, they got

1836
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 3: charters there, they're flying charters. They're doing better, they're gonna

1837
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: get more money, they're getting expansion. Okay, they're doing so

1838
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 3: much better, and she has helped that. But my question

1839
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: is this, what has she done to make it better?

1840
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 3: Because again, there have been better players than her. Right,

1841
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: Brianna Stewart's been there for a long time, won a

1842
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 3: championship with the Liberty last year, right, but she never

1843
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 3: got the league to go to the next level.

1844
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: How did Kaitlyn Clark do it?

1845
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: Different? Look, I would say a different thing.

1846
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: I said, Kaitlyn Clark is the perfect storm.

1847
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: Understand where she is.

1848
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 4: So you're talking about a Midwest star who did it

1849
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 4: as a four or five year player at Iowa. So

1850
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 4: you had an opportunity to really fall in love with

1851
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 4: her because it wasn't like a quick ascension to the top.

1852
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: Like it was a slow cook for her to be

1853
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: a star.

1854
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 4: And so like college basketball men's basketball used to do,

1855
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to establish the stars and watch

1856
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 4: those stars come with their own fan bases into the league. Well,

1857
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: Kaitlyn Clark did that at Iowa. She's everything, her numbers

1858
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 4: emblazon on the court. She then transitions going from Iowa

1859
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: to Indiana, another Midwestern situation and a Rabbit fan base

1860
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 4: because the state is known for basketball. So you bring

1861
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 4: all that, she has the all American girl look that

1862
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 4: helps her and has helped a lot of people gravitate

1863
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: towards her. And then I'm gonna say this, there was

1864
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 4: a villain that elevated her and the sport to another level,

1865
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: meaning they vilified Andrew Reese. Some of that tens with

1866
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,919
Speaker 4: racial components in composition because they were rivals in college.

1867
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 4: LSU knocked off Iwood Winninnatti a couple of years ago.

1868
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: Andrew Reese was a part of that.

1869
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 4: There was some bantering back and forth that escalated the

1870
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 4: entire thing.

1871
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: And so coming into the league.

1872
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: Much like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, Caitlin Clark and

1873
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 4: Andrew Reese elevated everything because there was already made rivalry

1874
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: and both people. Because I want you to underst this

1875
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 4: when you go and you look at Instagram followers, Andrew

1876
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 4: Reese's number one, I think she has over four million

1877
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 4: Instagram followers.

1878
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark is number two. Three point two.

1879
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 4: You're talking about seven million people that follow both respective ladies.

1880
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 4: There's gonna be some interest in Kaitlyn Clark certainly is

1881
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 4: the beneficiary of all those things forming the perfect storm.

1882
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1883
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: I know.

1884
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: The WMBA Commission did some sort of an internal.

1885
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: Investigation if there's racism in the league and things like that,

1886
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: look and they said they could find no conclusion that

1887
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 3: there was. I don't know how you find on a

1888
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,919
Speaker 3: conclusion with that anyway, you could just see it. However,

1889
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: behind closed doors, they love it. They love the finger

1890
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: pointing between Reeese and Kaitlin Clark.

1891
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: They love that.

1892
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: They love the physicality that Caitlyn's been pushed around by

1893
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 3: other players in the league, because that's that's what makes it, that's.

1894
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 2: What sells it.

1895
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: The villain, Lebron James has been a villain in the NBA.

1896
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: You love them or you hate it. There's no middle ground.

1897
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 3: Now we'll go to the finals of the NBA right now.

1898
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a villain. I think that

1899
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 3: leagues need a villain they really do, not to succeed,

1900
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: but to help ticket sales, to help ratings, to help

1901
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: robberies storylines.

1902
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Rivalries are good.

1903
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 4: Robberies are good because it adds a passion and a disdain.

1904
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 4: Like I would say competitive conflict is what we'll call it. Like,

1905
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 4: you want some of that to take place because it

1906
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: elevates the brand, It makes the stakes matter, It adds

1907
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 4: an urgency and intensity to the game.

1908
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: All of those things matter.

1909
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 4: Now, going back to your point about the racism thing,

1910
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 4: I think what has happened is the WNBA has been

1911
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 4: hijacked by outsiders for political gain, and some of the

1912
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 4: things that we hear around the coverage of Caitlin Clark

1913
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 4: and the WNBA are done with the political agenda by

1914
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 4: people that don't really care about the sport, right Like

1915
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 4: it's part of this political game that people pay play

1916
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: to get clicks in ratings in those things. I would

1917
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 4: say in the bubble of the WNBA, look, man, the

1918
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 4: issues certainly don't exist that are purported, but there is

1919
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 4: this thing if you include social media and commentary in

1920
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 4: those things that are tinged with stereotypes and racial tropes

1921
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 4: in those things. And I think it's important for us

1922
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 4: not to put a line in between those things because

1923
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 4: what people may perceive to be happening, or what angel

1924
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 4: reies may perceive or it is.

1925
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: Feeling, isn't w NBA related.

1926
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 4: It's done by the koups and the clowns that are

1927
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 4: outside and not affiliated with the WNBA, but are weighing

1928
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 4: in because social media gives.

1929
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 1: Everyone an opportunity to weigh in and have access.

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01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 3: Right and to continue on your point, you could have

1931
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: a villain, and you could have two, and they don't

1932
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: have to be they just have the eracious thing. I'm

1933
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 3: not going to go back way back in time because

1934
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: wil Chamberlain was a villain and it's adversary.

1935
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: It was always Bill Russell.

1936
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: It was always Russell Chamberlain and they will both block,

1937
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: so it doesn't have to be a white block thing.

1938
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: It's not racism. It really isn't, although people.

1939
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 3: Want to make it that way because, like you say,

1940
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: it gets more clicks, and then they got the politicians

1941
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 3: weighing in and say, oh, you know, we need to

1942
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 3: do this investigation and no, stop it, really please. I

1943
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think there's racism in the WNBA.

1944
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm foolish, maybe I'm blindsided. I do think there's

1945
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 3: envy and jealousy, but I don't think there's racism.

1946
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 4: See and I think that envy and jealousy, I think

1947
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 4: once again that's outsiders. That's outsiders weighing in because I

1948
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 4: think outsiders want to make this a situation where everyone

1949
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 4: should bow down and get on their knees and give

1950
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 4: praise and thanks and gratitude to Caitlin Clark. In a

1951
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 4: competitive environment, which the sport is, you're never going to

1952
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 4: have that kind of reverence for someone that you're competing with.

1953
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 4: We talked about competitive conflict. Competitive conflict exists between every

1954
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 4: player because it's a situation where look, if you are great,

1955
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: I want to prove to you that I'm greater than you.

1956
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 4: So you're going to have some of those altercations and

1957
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,440
Speaker 4: incidents when people are going at it because it's competitive.

1958
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 4: That conflict is whatever I think, the outside thing, I

1959
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 4: think what and I said this. People have used and

1960
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: hijacked the WNBA and Kaitlyn Clark for political gain. What

1961
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 4: some people want is to put Clayland Clark on a

1962
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 4: pedestal and have everyone either praise her or use her

1963
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 4: as the tipping point for oh look at her, Look

1964
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 4: at how the WNBA, which is predominantly black, and look

1965
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 4: there there's a homosexual element to it where you have

1966
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 4: like heteros and homos playing the sport, and there's a

1967
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,440
Speaker 4: worry of oh my god, the way this is portrayed

1968
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 4: doesn't look great.

1969
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Like they don't like her because of this.

1970
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: So there are all these other issues on the outside

1971
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 4: that are working, whereas the sport itself is great.

1972
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: The sport itself is.

1973
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 4: Thriving, and it's unfortunate that people on the outside have

1974
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 4: used this emerging sport for their own political gain and

1975
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: the grab of popularity, as opposed to just treating sport

1976
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 4: for what it is.

1977
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: There's no doubt WMDA was there before Kaitlyn Clark going

1978
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 3: to be there after Caton Club. There's not doubt about that.

1979
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 3: But I will say this, I commend her on one thing,

1980
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 3: not on a play, but the fact that she has

1981
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 3: not fallen for this bait that's been thrown out her.

1982
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 3: She's been really good. Even in news conferences. She's never

1983
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: pointed a finger at Angel Reees. She's never said any

1984
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 3: derogatory things, at least publicly towards her. So I think

1985
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 3: she's kept it above board. So I give her credit

1986
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: for that.

1987
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Look, I give her a ton of credit like the

1988
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 4: maturity that she has displayed. Look, man, she deserves credit

1989
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 4: for being able to handle herself. And she hasn't fallen

1990
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 4: for the okie dock when it comes to how people

1991
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:03,440
Speaker 4: have tried to I also he drive this wedge between

1992
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 4: her and Andrew Reese and her and others in the league,

1993
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: like she is very much an independent thinker, a critical thinker,

1994
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 4: and her opinion ways. She's been very complimentary of the pioneers,

1995
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 4: those that came before her and how those people have

1996
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 4: set up the game and those says, and she doesn't

1997
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 4: take credit for any of that.

1998
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: I give her a ton of credit.

1999
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 4: I wish the people outside would not use her as

2000
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 4: a political pawn and would really cover the sport because

2001
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 4: they love the sport. But really a lot of the

2002
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 4: commentary and the conversation around the sport has little to

2003
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 4: do with the love of the sport, but more to

2004
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 4: do with trying to score political points.

2005
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: And let's not forget angel Reees. Give us some credit

2006
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 3: to but she's been the same. I mean, she hasn't

2007
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: really gone crazy on Khaling Clark. I give her some

2008
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 3: credit too.

2009
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 4: No, Look, I think both of them and there are

2010
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 4: a ton of women and ladies in the league that

2011
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 4: deserve credit for elevating the game and putting the game

2012
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 4: in a great spot. I am telling you we're in

2013
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 4: a weird place where as our news consumption habits have changed,

2014
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 4: people are looking for different things to latch onto. If

2015
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 4: it's not the WNBA, whatever is the conversation around transgenders

2016
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 4: in sports and those things like some of these things

2017
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 4: are strictly done to advance a political agenda.

2018
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: That look is.

2019
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 4: Polarizing, that creates clicks in conversation, that has little to do.

2020
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: With the sports that are being talked.

2021
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: About right and last, but not least before we move on,

2022
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 3: because they do want to talk about some football stuff

2023
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 3: with you. But we want to just give our final

2024
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers to TNT inside the NBA.

2025
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: But they're gone.

2026
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: I know, a nix a gone. But they'll be back.

2027
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 3: The Knicks will be back one twenty five on. Wait,

2028
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 3: they lose last night to Indianapolis in Game six in Indie,

2029
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 3: but TNT lost inside the NBA with the crew. They'll

2030
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: be on the Full Letter Network next year. But I

2031
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 3: do believe it won't be the same.

2032
01:31:59,280 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 2: It can't be this.

2033
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: And you know, it was a sort of the good

2034
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 3: of a tear in Ernie Johnson's eye last night after

2035
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: the ball game.

2036
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: And Shaka is great, and Charles is tremendous. He really is.

2037
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Kenny the jet I love it, he says, stop it,

2038
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: stop the tape over there. These guys are great.

2039
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: I remember Kenny jetsonn playing in high school and Archbishop

2040
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Malloy High School in New York City. I mean, these

2041
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 3: guys are great and just a chemistry. Whoever put this together.

2042
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say he's a genius.

2043
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 2: He got lucky.

2044
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 3: You got lucky. You just don't know what's gonna happen.

2045
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 3: They just happened to mold together. And Ernie Johnson is

2046
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 3: the best. He's just great. So I'm gonna miss those guys.

2047
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: I am.

2048
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna miss him too.

2049
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 4: And I think the thing that it shows like in TV,

2050
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 4: remember this, Kenny Smith was a really good NBA player.

2051
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,959
Speaker 4: He's my favorite player when he came to North Carolina.

2052
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,480
Speaker 4: Obviously I'm a tar heel. I was a Carolina basketball

2053
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: fan when he came to North Carolina from New York.

2054
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 4: Started as a freshman, was on the team with Michael

2055
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 4: Jordan and those guys. He was a freshman year, all

2056
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: that stuff. He was a great player. He was a

2057
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 4: solid NBA player, but a two time champion. When they

2058
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 4: put him on TV, remember it because it was Ernie, Kenny,

2059
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 4: and Charles. It was really a unique combo because Charles

2060
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 4: is the star. Kenny Smith is not the star, but

2061
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 4: he became a star because of TV and how good

2062
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 4: he was on it. This show resonated because it had

2063
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 4: this barbershop field in terms of the conversation that we

2064
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: would have in the barbershop, particularly in the black community,

2065
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 4: Like that's kind of like barber shop fodder, you know,

2066
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 4: the signifying and going back and forth. It had that,

2067
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 4: but Ernie Johnson was able to make sure that the

2068
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 4: train always stayed on the tracks.

2069
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 1: It's just a great show.

2070
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 4: And if more shows could have the authenticy of inside

2071
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 4: the NBA man, we would consume a better product. As

2072
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 4: opposed to whatever talk debate, hot take culture that sports

2073
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 4: media has become in certain and some aspects.

2074
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 3: You think about it. I mean, I watch a lot

2075
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 3: of TV. Not tons, but I watch a lot. I've

2076
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 3: never seen a show like that sports I really haven't.

2077
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 3: I mean, and ESPN has a ton of them. I

2078
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 3: hate to even mention the letters.

2079
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: It's the full letter.

2080
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 3: Network, but they've dumped a couple of them right now.

2081
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 3: But I just see people yelling and screaming and there's

2082
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 3: not much content, and that doesn't mean anything. Maybe that's

2083
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 3: what people want, the yelling. You know, even the announcers

2084
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 3: today yelling and screaming. I mean, it's calm. I mean,

2085
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 3: guys like Vince Scully couldn't make it today. They don't

2086
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 3: yell and scream. Think about that. Marve Albert couldn't make it.

2087
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 3: He'd be rejected on an interview, I mean because he

2088
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: didn't yell and scream, But right now the guys they

2089
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 3: yell and they scream. It's just, you know, calm down, really,

2090
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: just you know, it's not the end of the world.

2091
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. But those guys are great. It's

2092
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 3: a great combination, and we move on. But you know,

2093
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 3: I wish them well and I'll watch them again next year.

2094
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's going to be the same

2095
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: because you know, when when you're on a network, at

2096
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: the four Letter Network, you're not the only show.

2097
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: But TNT you are on an island.

2098
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 3: And I think they're going to bring in their other clowns,

2099
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: so to speak, on ESPN to kind of ruin their set,

2100
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 3: and you.

2101
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: Know, they won't be able to do They're it. They

2102
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 2: won't be able to fingerpoint. On TNT, they were it,

2103
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: that's it. They're the only thing they had. But on

2104
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 2: ESPN there's tons of other things and other properties. They

2105
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: can't maybe make fun of the NHL like they did

2106
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: last night. Charles was making fun of a promo and

2107
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 2: NHL promo last night. It was great. Couldn't pronounce the names.

2108
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: I loved it.

2109
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 3: You can't do it on ESPN because they owned the

2110
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: rights to the NHL, so it's going to be very

2111
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 3: difficult for them to stay in the lane.

2112
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.

2113
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, we will certainly see what happens.

2114
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 4: It is one of those things where we'll continue to

2115
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 4: look at how the things go down, what it looks like,

2116
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,839
Speaker 4: how the landscape changes when it comes to the NBA.

2117
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 4: But I don't think it necessarily has to be a

2118
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 4: bad thing. I think there's some good that can come

2119
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 4: out of all of it. As they transition and make

2120
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 4: their way to another network, maybe they can elevate the

2121
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 4: performance of the aforementioned network that you talk about and

2122
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 4: some of their shows. Because look, man, birds of a

2123
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 4: other flock together. And so if you put you know,

2124
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 4: some accomplished people that do it at an Emmy Award

2125
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 4: winning level, people have a tendency to raise their game.

2126
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping that.

2127
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 4: I'm also hoping when we go to the NBA goes

2128
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 4: to NBC and Amazon Prime and some of the newness

2129
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 4: in terms of the talent that will show up there.

2130
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I think it should be cool.

2131
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 4: To see Carmelo Anthony and Dwayne Dwayne Wade and Eudona's

2132
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:40,560
Speaker 4: Haslam have an opportunity to share their experiences as champions.

2133
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 4: Reggie Miller will move over, some of the other guys

2134
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 4: will move over. Talking about Michael Jordan having a role,

2135
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 4: you know, it's an opportunity to hit the reset button

2136
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: and to make the conversation around the sport better for

2137
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:52,799
Speaker 4: everybody included.

2138
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I'm used to I grew up

2139
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: with great announcers. I grew up with Mel Allen with

2140
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 3: the Yankees, more Avalable with the Nicks. It's just Martin

2141
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 3: Klickman with the New York Football Giants. And I watched

2142
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 3: the game last night. Kevin Harlan, he screams, okay, Reggie Miller,

2143
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 3: I felt bad. I think it was a conflict of

2144
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 3: interest to some extent because he played for the Pacers,

2145
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 3: and I didn't.

2146
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 4: Really felt like you felt like you felt like Reggie

2147
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 4: was a conflict adventures because he's calling the game, and

2148
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 4: so you didn't feel like you're getting fair and balance covered.

2149
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's rooting for the Pacers. You know that,

2150
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 2: I get it, But I.

2151
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't think he added much. And Van Gundy just,

2152
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,879
Speaker 3: you know, just he said everything that Charles said at halftime,

2153
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: he said. He repeated that during the game they got

2154
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 3: to play fast. Come on, there's gotta be a better

2155
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 3: crew than that. That's all I'm saying. There's gotta be

2156
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: a better crew than that.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think.

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01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I felt like it was okay, man kept but I

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 4: don't turn the game like what I saw, right.

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01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 3: But I don't the game right. I don't turn the

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01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: games on and off because of announcers. I mean, if

2163
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,520
Speaker 3: the game is good, I'm gonna watch it despite the announcers.

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01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 3: At times I could I tolerated them.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's better than that. That's all I'm saying.

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01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 2: I think it's better, That's all I mean.

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01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 4: Like, look, there's always someone better lurking in the bushes,

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01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 4: and you certainly want that stuff, like you certainly want

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01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 4: them to understand all of those things, you know, like

2170
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 4: in terms of like what's important, what you want to like,

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01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 4: can you can you make me smarter.

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01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: When it comes to consuming the game and those things?

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 1: So I get what you understand. I understand what you're saying.

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01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 3: But I was spoiled because I grew up with better announcers.

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01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. I mean Marv Alba was the best.

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01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 3: I love and then, and he was a student of

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01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 3: Marty Cookman. And you may not have heard of Marty Cookman,

2178
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 3: but you could google Martiklok. He was the voice of

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01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: the New Football Giants on radio growing up, because when

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01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, the home games were blacked out,

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01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 3: so I had those to the games on radio or

2182
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 3: drive to Connecticut to see him play. And you know,

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01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 3: he was great, No one better than Marty Glickman.

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01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 2: He was the best.

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01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 3: He painted a picture and he did the nick games

2186
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 3: at times too, and Spencer Ross was there too.

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01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 2: There were great announceers. But that's another story.

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01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 3: But I do want to talk about prime time because

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01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 3: you talk about prime time, your first thoughts are always

2190
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 3: who ds deon Sanders?

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01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Right?

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01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 3: But in Cleveland Browns, they're not going to have prime

2193
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 3: time this year. They're gonna play their whole schedule only

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01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 3: on Sunday Sunday afternoon. They were and maybe that's right

2195
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 3: because they were three and fourteen last year. But the

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01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 3: division they play in and which should do a Sanders

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01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: as a primetime guy, has.

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01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 2: Caught it back.

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01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 3: You would think they would have at least one primetime

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01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 3: game don't you think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean they weren't very good

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01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: last year, you know what I mean?

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01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 4: And you know, I would venture to guess that the

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01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 4: schedule would have been different if Shudeur Sanders was taken

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01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 4: in the first round. Maybe, but he's taken in the

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01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 4: fifth round and there's no guarantee that he's going to

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01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 4: be on the team. How can you build the primetime

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01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 4: schedule anticipating him being the starter when he may not

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Speaker 4: be on the team. But know this, the back half

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01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 4: of the schedule, there's some flexibility when it comes to

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01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 4: scheduling and primetime and those things, and maybe you'll see

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01:39:55,320 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 4: some of those things take place. But I mean, who

2213
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 4: are you really tuning in to see when you watch

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01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. Don't disrespect to all the Browns fans,

2215
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 4: but who are you, yeah, who are you tuning in?

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01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett as a former Defensive Player of the Year,

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01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 4: But I don't know if he moves the needle when

2218
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 4: it comes to my TV viewing habits. I mean, we

2219
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 4: see the Dallas Cowboys, They're all over the prime time

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01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 4: count because what the Dallas Cowboys move the needle, That's

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01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 4: what it is. As much as we want to say,

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01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 4: it's about meritocracy and competitiveness or whatever on the TV schedule. No,

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Speaker 4: it's about who were going to get the eyeballs to

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Speaker 4: the set.

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Speaker 1: Some teams do, other teams don't.

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Speaker 3: Last year, their offense was ranked last in scoring and

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01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 3: they got some quarterback competition Flacco, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel and Sanders. Okay, the question I have and

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Speaker 3: we'll roll it over to the next seven for a

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Speaker 3: little bit. How do you split the snaps and practice

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01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 3: to give the guy a chance? That's all I'm sane,

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Speaker 1: He hit it?

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Speaker 4: HM?

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Speaker 2: help me out with that one.

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Speaker 1: You're a thirty point shot and you're.

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Speaker 3: we get up the air, and now we're live from

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And the question I have.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we talked about a little bit quarterbacks and the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. We mentioned Joe Flacco early on that he's

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01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 3: not going to help out the youngsters because that's just

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01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 3: the way he is.

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Speaker 2: He's selfish.

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Speaker 3: But the general manager that Browns, Andrew Berry, says it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a truly open competition. Dylan Gabriel should do

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Speaker 3: a s pick it in Flacco. You know, how do

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01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 3: you split the snaps in practice? What does that mean?

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01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Open competition? How could four guys get an equal shot

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01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 3: to get the starting job in Cleveland?

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Speaker 4: You can script it out like when it comes to

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01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 4: your practice reps. You can script out the team periods

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01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 4: and the competitive periods where everyone gets an opportunity. It

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01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 4: may might be rep for rep even but the opportunities

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01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 4: will be the same in terms of how many chances

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Speaker 4: do you get a chance, how many chances do you

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Speaker 4: have with the ones compared to the twos, threes and fours.

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Speaker 4: And if you rotate that out, you can do it.

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01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 4: The thing that will have to happen when it comes

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Speaker 4: to the competition. It's going to have to happen fast

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Speaker 4: and furious, because in training camp, when you think about it,

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Speaker 4: with only three preseason games and one of those games

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Speaker 4: being designated as one where the veterans don't participate or play,

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01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard for the young guys to close

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01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 4: the gap on Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco. The thing

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01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 4: that you would like to see is one of them

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01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 4: would need to flash early, quickly in camp so that

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Speaker 4: you can loosely begin to think about, all right, we

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 4: need to give Dylan Gable more reps. We need to

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01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 4: give Shader Sanders more reps because they look like they

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01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 4: may have a better handle on the.

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Speaker 1: Offense than we anticipated.

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Speaker 4: And so there's a bit of a ying in Yang,

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Speaker 4: but you can script it out where you can get

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Speaker 4: these guys a generally a solid look to be the

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is that they got four quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: now Old Vine for the number one spot. Last year

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Speaker 3: they were three and fourteen. They played four quarterbacks during

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Speaker 3: the season. During the regular season, they played four. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of crazy. They fired their offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey

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01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 3: they got a new go ay, Tommy Reese. What do

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01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 3: you know about Tommy Reese and his offense.

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Speaker 4: Well, Tommy Reche used to be offensive coordinator down in Alabama.

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Speaker 4: He's a former Notre Dame player. His dad, Billious, I think,

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Speaker 4: was a longtime NFL executive, so he's been around the league.

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Speaker 4: He knows what it looks like. His offense is one

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Speaker 4: that I think it'll be adaptable. He will adapt to

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Speaker 4: the people that he has available to him, and so

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01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 4: if it's a classic drop back passer, he'll make sure

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Speaker 4: that it's drop back friendly. If it's more of an

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01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 4: athletic player, which they don't really have, they will.

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Speaker 1: Make it athletic.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's still going to

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 4: be versions of what Kevin Stefanski believes in. And you

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01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 4: have to think that this offense has been successful throughout.

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01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: His time in the league. He'll find a way to

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Speaker 1: have more success.

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Speaker 4: Remember the last time Joe Flacco played and Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 4: led offense, he lit it up. I would think that

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01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 4: they were try and keep some of those elements the same.

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Speaker 4: And I noticed that we talked about the four guys,

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01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 4: but remember Jashaun Watson is lurking somewhere in the background

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01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 4: because he is on the roster. He is rehabbing his achilles,

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Speaker 4: but he is on the roster.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this that flat goes to front runner. He's

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01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 3: got the most experienced, but I still believe that should

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01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 3: do Sanders is the best quarterback on that roster.

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Speaker 4: He may be the most I can't even send the

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01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 4: most talented, but he could be the best. But he's

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01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to prove it.

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01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: He is. Look, he's a long shot.

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01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 4: He is the five hundred to one favorite when it

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01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 4: comes to winning to Kenturkey Derby.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if he can pull it off.

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Speaker 2: All right.

2349
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 3: I want to move on now to another football player

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01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 3: in the league, and his name is Stefan Diggs, and

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01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 3: I think now I understand why the Buffalo Bill's dumped

2352
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 3: on him because he's very difficult to control to some extent.

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01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 3: He was not present for OTA's last week, all right,

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01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 3: and he sent out a video he was on a boat.

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01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 3: He flashed at unidentified pink substance, which a lot of

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Speaker 3: people think was cocaine, and he was surrounded by three

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Speaker 3: women on a boat.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, you do what you want to do. On

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Speaker 2: your time. My question is this, how stupid can you

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Speaker 2: be that you put a video on that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're on vacation, you missed the ota. That's okay,

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01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: all right.

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01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 2: I mean Miles Garrett mister got a in Cleveland.

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01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 3: He's with his girlfriend. He didn't put it on video.

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01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he just said he wasn't gonna go, you

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01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: don't have to go. He didn't go. But this lunatic

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01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,839
Speaker 3: goes out on a boat and puts.

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Speaker 1: On a.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 4: Did Digs put the video out there or did someone

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Speaker 4: on the boat put the video out there? Like highly

2372
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 4: doubt that Diggs would be like, hey, guys, look at

2373
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 4: me with the pink substance in the thing. I will

2374
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 4: also say I think it's important for context because people

2375
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 4: talk about the three women that were around him. His

2376
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 4: girlfriend Cardi bu was on the boat with him. Not

2377
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 4: that it changes anything, but it seems like he's playing

2378
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: fair and loose with a lot of chicks, like having

2379
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 4: this engaged in this debauchery, and like his lady was

2380
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 4: on the boat with him. You know, I just want

2381
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 4: everyone to understand that. Now the pink substance, I don't know,

2382
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 4: but I will say this, we saw him pass the

2383
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 4: pink substance around.

2384
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: We didn't see him take the pinink substance, so a.

2385
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 4: Lot of people have have assumed and presumed that he

2386
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 4: was partaking in something we don't even know what was

2387
01:47:58,880 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 4: in the peak substance.

2388
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Pink substance could be kool aid for all we know.

2389
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 4: It could be pink lemonade, kool aid powder for all

2390
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 4: we know, because we weren't on the boat. I'm just

2391
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 4: saying there have been a lot of assumptions when it

2392
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 4: comes to what was taking place on the boat without

2393
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 4: factually being able to say that.

2394
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: Circumstances evidence doesn't look great, But.

2395
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying we don't know for sure what took place

2396
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 4: on the boat.

2397
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 3: You reeled me in pretty good on this, because you

2398
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 3: know what, I did, call him Aluna tech, and I apologize,

2399
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you why, because there's a very good

2400
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 3: chance that he's not he's smart enough not to have

2401
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 3: posted that, but maybe one of those ladies on the

2402
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 3: boat posted it.

2403
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 2: And he's probably going nuts about that.

2404
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 3: But again, if I wore Stefan Diggs, I would go out, well,

2405
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 3: what do you do?

2406
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 2: What you can say I didn't post it? It's on

2407
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 2: there I mean, what are you gonna do?

2408
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 4: No, it's on there, but no, But I would say

2409
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 4: Mike Rabel's response was perfect.

2410
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 3: Let's get wait a minute, we have it, Mike, go ahead.

2411
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 3: What did you say, Mike.

2412
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 9: Well, it's something that we're aware of, and obviously we

2413
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 9: want to make great decisions on and off the field,

2414
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 9: and we're hoping that with our time here on the

2415
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 9: field today and that when we don't have a script

2416
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 9: and we're on the callup.

2417
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Periods, that we're making great decisions.

2418
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 9: And so the message will be the same for all

2419
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 9: our players that we were trying to make great decisions,

2420
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 9: and any conversations that I've had with Stefan will remain

2421
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 9: between him and I and the club.

2422
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel, head coach of the New Patrie, I don't

2423
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 3: know what that means. What exactly does it mean may

2424
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 3: make great decisions? You could have said that prior to

2425
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 3: seeing the video, right, So I don't know what that means.

2426
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: It means that he and Stefan I have very tense conversation.

2427
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: He'll tell it. Stepan, come on, bro, what we doing?

2428
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like you know better? You

2429
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 1: know better?

2430
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 4: Like one of the rules that most teams operate on

2431
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 4: is a protected team. And you didn't protect the team

2432
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 4: because you put you Steff in a bad situation. When

2433
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 4: now we have an answer for things that you engaged in.

2434
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 4: Let's come on, let's be smarter. Let's make sure that

2435
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 4: we we take care of business.

2436
01:49:58,400 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: The wa business should be taken care of.

2437
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, what would Bill Belichick I have done a

2438
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 3: situation like this.

2439
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he would. I don't think he would

2440
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 1: have cut him and done anything.

2441
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 4: I think it just would have been another hard conversation

2442
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 4: that you have to have, you know, I don't think

2443
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 4: I don't.

2444
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 1: Think it's anything that you necessarily need to go over board.

2445
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 1: You need to talk about it.

2446
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,600
Speaker 4: Like some people are upset because he wasn't at OTA's,

2447
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 4: But people have to remember ota is are voluntary. It's

2448
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 4: not mandatory NDCBA. They put that in there so you

2449
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 4: can't make anybody show up. He's a veteran, he knows

2450
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 4: how to play. You would like all you guys to

2451
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 4: be there, but if he's not there, you can't make

2452
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 4: it a bigger deal than it is. The thing that

2453
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 4: I would say that it's probably most troubling if you're

2454
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,520
Speaker 4: the Patriots is like, man, just to undo unwarranted conversation

2455
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 4: that has been created because of this incident. Now the

2456
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 4: focus is less on what takes place on the field

2457
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 4: and more on Stefan.

2458
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,799
Speaker 1: Diggs and off the field behaviors and those things.

2459
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna lead to a lot of questions when he

2460
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 4: comes back and all that.

2461
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: Like, nobody wants to have to deal with that.

2462
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 4: The coach does wanted, right River didn't want to show

2463
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 4: up and be like, oh, well, yeah, let me answer

2464
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 4: all these questions on Stephan Dicks. He didn't want to

2465
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 4: have to deal with that, but we just talk about

2466
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 4: taking care of the team.

2467
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 2: Is this will be called a distraction, my friend?

2468
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 4: This is it's a bit of a Yeah, it's a

2469
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 4: bit of a distraction for sure. Like I mean, is

2470
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 4: not what any coach wants to have to deal with

2471
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 4: right now, But uh, you do it because that's part

2472
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 4: of the job. That's why Mike Vrabel makes the big bucks.

2473
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 3: Right, And I'm hearing reports on various talk shows across

2474
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 3: the country and even locally here say, is it time

2475
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 3: for my able to tell Stephan Dicks to walk what

2476
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 3: to walk? I mean, come on, really, I mean, he's

2477
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 3: part of the offense, and they need him. There's no

2478
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 3: doubt about that. They want to elevate the receiving corps.

2479
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 3: The receiving corps on the PAGEOTS as you finished last

2480
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL with over with seventeen hundred receiving yards,

2481
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the worst in the league.

2482
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: They need this guy, really.

2483
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 4: They need him. But he also has to understand his

2484
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: responsibility towards the team. And so I love Stefon Diggs,

2485
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 4: but Stefan Diggs is wrong in this situation only because

2486
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 4: of the undue attention that it brought and it created

2487
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 4: for the team. He has to just make sound decisions,

2488
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 4: smart decisions based on that, like, hey, man, don't put

2489
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 4: the team.

2490
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: Don't put the team in a bad spot.

2491
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 4: You know, And he put the team in a bad spot,

2492
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,839
Speaker 4: right then you and I can acknowledge that that's not ideal,

2493
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 4: a bad spot.

2494
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 2: You changed my whole take on this one hundred eighty

2495
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 2: percent eighty degrees. I'll tell you why.

2496
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 3: Number One, he didn't go to the OTS with this

2497
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 3: voluntary so there's no big whoop that he didn't go.

2498
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Number Two, we don't know if he took that substance.

2499
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 3: And now we don't even know what the substances, though

2500
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 3: people are claiming it's some sort of cocaine. We don't know,

2501
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,879
Speaker 3: but he may not have taken it. And number three,

2502
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 3: he may never I would assume. I'm giving the benefit

2503
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 3: of the doubt. He's smart enough not to have released

2504
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 3: that video. He didn't do it, right, I mean, I'm hoping.

2505
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he did. I don't think he released it,

2506
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 3: and you could change me on that deal. So the

2507
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 3: fact that it's out there, Okay, he's probably upset that

2508
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 3: it got out.

2509
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: There because he didn't release it. It didn't look good.

2510
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's not that

2511
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 3: big a deal when you think about it.

2512
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 2: It's really not. I mean, but it's gonna go nuts

2513
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 2: on this. It's not that big of a deal, right, I.

2514
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,759
Speaker 4: Mean, it's not that big of a deal in terms

2515
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 4: of like, oh, we need to cut him because he

2516
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:40,760
Speaker 4: was hanging out with ladies on the boat and they

2517
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 4: were circulating a pink powdery substance. But it is something

2518
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 4: that does require Mike Rabel to have to address it

2519
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 4: and talk on it like that is.

2520
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is something that is definitely mandatory.

2521
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 3: You have to address it, right, do you have to

2522
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: talk owner of the Patriot, Robert Craft, and is Olf

2523
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 3: saying we never had this when Bill was coach?

2524
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Why did I get rid of him?

2525
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't think.

2526
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Robert Craft is talking much about

2527
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 4: what happened when Bill Belichick was.

2528
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: This is my personal that's just my personal take.

2529
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 2: And last one, not least, I forgot to ask you

2530
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:18,799
Speaker 2: this question. Have you been invited to the wedding?

2531
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I haven't.

2532
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 4: I have not, but I'm seeing I'm gonna go to

2533
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 4: Chapel Hill in a few weeks. Hopefully I can score

2534
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 4: an invitation to the wedding. Maybe I can take some

2535
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 4: some pictures for for everybody. What I'm saying, like, you know.

2536
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 2: I'll try to get the mission first. I don't want

2537
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: to be like Stefan Diggs. I mean you want to.

2538
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I'm gonna make sure try to

2539
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 4: catch him a compromising situation so it becomes a bigger

2540
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 4: distraction or anything like that.

2541
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 3: All Right, he's Bucket Brooks and Andy Freman. We are

2542
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday Fox. But read Yes, Yes, it's your turn.

2543
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 3: It's the playing game and it's freaking next. All right,

2544
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,280
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2545
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,760
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2546
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,280
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2547
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,520
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2548
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,720
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2549
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,800
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2550
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 3: from the Fox Sports Radio studios, Patty will be ready.

2551
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Let's play the blame game with.

2552
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 7: It's all your fault, it's your fault, This is all

2553
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 7: your fault. Maybe it's everyone's fault. She's a liar. The

2554
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 7: blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

2555
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 5: He's a liar, well, you know what, and he's a liar.

2556
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 5: You know who I blame.

2557
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 6: I blame you today, Andy would because I blame you.

2558
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 6: I'm going first with mine today because of this I blame.

2559
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 6: So with that said, it's time for the blame game, folks,

2560
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 6: and with I'm gonna go with my question first with

2561
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 6: this one here, so we all know what happened with

2562
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 6: with you know, the Knicks and the Pacers Eastern Conference Finals,

2563
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 6: but that the Knicks were toted as like you know,

2564
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 6: probably one of the hottest ones in the East, and

2565
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 6: had so much momentum coming in and then you know

2566
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 6: they faced the Pacers Game one. Of course, the choke

2567
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 6: job happens, and you know the Knicks losing six Pacers

2568
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 6: advance and the finals. Well, who is really to blame

2569
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 6: for all this? I mean we have Is it Thibodeau

2570
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 6: on his coaching or the players? Just was it just

2571
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,360
Speaker 6: not a good correlation? Was it just they got out played,

2572
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 6: out coached or what?

2573
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 5: Who do you blame? Andy?

2574
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 2: Number one? Get off Tim's back? All right? I love Tims.

2575
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 2: He did a hell of a job. They got off

2576
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 2: his back.

2577
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 3: Number two, you gotta blame the fact that the Knicks

2578
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 3: could not play the style of play that the Pacers played.

2579
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 3: If you watched that game last night, every time they

2580
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 3: Nick scored, the Pacers ran down the court and do

2581
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 3: the layup. I mean, come on, you gotta play defense,

2582
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 3: and they didn't play defense that couldn't match up. Well, really,

2583
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 3: I still think the Knicks are great. I love the Knicks.

2584
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Speaker 3: Brunton was shadowed last night and he scored nineteen, but

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01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 3: I had to work for it. I just think the

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01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 3: Pacers played better, and there's a better team effort on

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers.

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01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 4: Look, I would say that the Nicks gessiducing the playing

2589
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 4: on the Indiana Pacers term. So Tom Thibadeau has to

2590
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 4: make sure he always reminds his team to play to

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01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 4: their style. They didn't stay true to their identity, which

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01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 4: is why they are now going.

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01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 5: Fishing, going fishing. Well, we're gonna go fishing on this one, guys.

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01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 6: So the CC and the Big Ten are looking to

2595
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 6: separate themselves from the rest of the college sports. Two

2596
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 6: conferences are discussing a football scheduling alliance to strengthen both conferences.

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01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 6: So who do you blame here, Bucky Brooks?

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 4: Look, I think there are a few different things that

2599
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 4: are played. The college football world is in transition. We're

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01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 4: talking about expanding the playoffs in sixteen games, talking about

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01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 4: the two mega conferences having.

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01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 1: All the things. Look, I would say to blame TV.

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01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 4: TV is throwing so much money at these conferences that

2604
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 4: everyone is consolidating. It's a mega conference world. That's why

2605
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,839
Speaker 4: we're seeing so much change and turnover.

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01:57:58,960 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: Right now.

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 3: You know what, I blame the NC double A because

2608
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 3: especially they standing by and watching this happen, which is

2609
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 3: a good thing. Big listen to Big ten and the

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01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:07,839
Speaker 3: s you see, the two best football conferences in the country.

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01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 3: But the point is this, why have an NC double

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01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 3: A You don't need one? All right, let it go

2613
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 3: for the fans point of view, this is great. You're

2614
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 3: gonna be great football all the time, and everybody else

2615
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 3: is just gonna be an ulso ran.

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01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 5: All right, well, we're gonna go to football with this one.

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01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 6: And so guys, so Aaron Rodgers is still on the

2618
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 6: outside looking in with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 5: Who do you blame?

2620
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 6: And personally, why is it Aaron Rodgers? Because let's be real,

2621
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 6: who do you blame? And we know, yes, it is

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01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers who blame.

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01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't blame really, I blame what Rudy the second,

2624
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 3: the owner of the Steelers, who's in love with Aaron Rodgers.

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01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 3: You know what, this is not gonna be good for

2626
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 3: the whole team concept. Forget it. Cut him loose. You

2627
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 3: know you don't need him. Mason Rudolph's is the man.

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01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 3: I love Mason.

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01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: Look, Mason Rules gonna have an opportunity.

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01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 4: But I mean, look, the Steelers have career their own

2631
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 4: mess up by giving all this power to Aaron Rodgers.

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01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: They said they would wait on him. So he's going

2633
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: to do what he does, but just make them wait.

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01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of a guy that's making people wait here,

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01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 6: we also have Trey Hendrickson, defensive tackle for the Bengals

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01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 6: at it again. He said he'd sit last season if

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01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 6: he didn't get a new contract.

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01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 5: Now he says he'll do it again. He'll be uh gig,

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01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 5: he'll be sure.

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01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 2: What is the.

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01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 5: Three thirty one years old? Shortly? Do the Bengals need

2642
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 5: him to win? Do they pay? Who knows?

2643
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 2: Who?

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01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 5: Do you blame Bucky?

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01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,560
Speaker 1: I blame the Bengals for good the way they do business.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: They always wait till.

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01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 4: The last minute and always cost them more. Right now,

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01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 4: they just don't have the capital to be able to

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01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 4: give it to Trey Henderson. But they need him because

2650
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 4: he's their best defensive player up front.

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01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 3: They don't need a biggest They can go to the

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01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 3: super Bowl without him.

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01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: They can't.

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01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 3: They didn't go to the playoffs with him last year.

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01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 3: You got Tea on there, and you got Jamar and

2656
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 3: you got Joe Burrow. That's all you need. That's really

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01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 3: that's all you need. You don't need him.

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Speaker 2: Let him go our final one.

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Speaker 6: So Patrick Mahomes says he's not going to participate from

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02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 6: flag football for the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Who do you blame?

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Speaker 5: Final blame Mandy.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you next week. How's that, how's that? Fair

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Speaker 2: count